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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 92 13:50:17 -0500
>From: Doctor Math <root@SANGER.CHEM.ND.EDU>
Subject: File 2--HoHoCon and the SS
The recent "shadow" SS raids on both PumpCon and the 2600 meeting
scare me. The implications are chilling. In both cases, the law
enforcement conducting the raid had "legitimate" reasons for doing so
- the raid could stand up in court if it had to, all by itself. So the
SS (and who else? FBI? DIA? CIA?) gets the best of both worlds:
meetings of the "Underground Hacker Menace" are broken up while the SS
doesn't have to take bad press for it; most mainstream media doesn't
mention the SS if there's any coverage of
the incident at all.
I really wanted to go to HoHoCon this year. I was even prepared to be
photographed by whichever federal agencies decided to attend. More
notes for my file, at least. This didn't bother me, since I don't do
anything interesting or "dangerous" enough to get myself investigated
(at least not for the past couple of years). A little surveillance, no
big deal. Now I'm not so sure I want to go given that it appears
likely that some sort of law enforcement will be there conducting some
sort of raid and making some sort of arrest... later they will deny
any involvement of any federal agencies, claiming that they had their
own investigation into the (pick one or more: stolen property, illegal
K0DEZ, underaged participants, hijacked source code, proprietary
documents...) and that the bust stands on its own merit. Right.
Another note: Was the 2600 meeting that got raided the only one to
occur on private property? I think the Bill of Rights says something
about the right of citizens to peaceably assemble, but the Mall was
indeed private property and they could theoretically suspend this
right. Of course, that should have amounted to "chasing off a bunch of
kids" as it almost always does, not "detain and confiscate". Would it
have been any different if the meeting was being held in a public
park, assuming that the park was open and that the participants
weren't breaking any local ordinances about noise or failure to obtain
permits for a meeting of greater than X people (yes, there are
ordinances like that in some cities) ? Would it be any different if
the meeting was held in someone's house (other than perhaps generating
additional liability for the host) ?
Pipe dream: Secretly replace the attendants of a given conference with
lawyers at the last minute. Install hidden cameras and microphones at
the site of the convention. Make sure that the "attendees" aren't
doing anything that is even slightly illegal. Wait for raid. After
raid, sue.
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