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- INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 10 Feb 92 Volume 92 : Issue 11
-
- Today's Topics:
- Need TCP/IP software for CP/M
- Re: Any replaced Z80 by Z280? (2 msgs)
- Re: SIMTEL CP/M archives listing
- Vector CP/M Computer
- Xerox 820-II
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 4 Feb 92 15:46:03 GMT
- From: csusac!csus.edu!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!news@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Sean Eckton)
- Subject: Need TCP/IP software for CP/M
- Message-ID: <1992Feb4.154603.1085@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
-
- I have an Apple//c with a Z-80 installed inside to run CP/M. I heard
- that there was TCP/IP software written for CP/M some time ago, but I don't
- know where I can get it. I would like to use it to run TCP/IP on packet
- radio. Does anyone know where I can find such a creature?
-
- --
- Sean Eckton
-
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
- Internet: ecktons@sirius.byu.edu Brigham Young University, Provo, UT.
- Packet Radio: kd6bik @ wb7esh.#orem.ut.usa.na
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 92 20:44:26 GMT
- From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!altger!doitcr!jungkunz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Helmut Jungkunz)
- Subject: Re: Any replaced Z80 by Z280?
- Message-ID: <1732@doitcr.doit.sub.org>
-
- Hi, I highly recommend reading the latest issue of TCJ the Computer Journal,
- it deals with a new ECB-based computer developed in Germany(!) by Tilmann Reh
- In der Grossenbach 46 5900 Siegen. It contains a 12 MHz Z280 with 6 MHz
- bus to accomodate standard 8.bit externals.
-
- Tilmann.Reh@hrz.uni-siegen.dbp.de is his internet address.
-
- Have a close look, it's a great machine, IDE bus 120 MB fixed disk is ready
- and in test at the time beeing. Superfast output is possible through a rapid
- HERCULES graphic terminal card also available. Standard IBM keyboards and
- TTL monitors can be used.
-
- Check it out, Z3PLUS, the Z-system for CP/M Plus is running too, since it
- uses a modified standard CP/M 3.1.
-
- Ciao, regards and cu (-: ,
-
- -> Helmut Jungkunz <-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Feb 92 06:04:53 GMT
- From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ogicse!intelhf!ichips!inews!cadev5!dbraun@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Doug Braun ~)
- Subject: Re: Any replaced Z80 by Z280?
- Message-ID: <8799@inews.intel.com>
-
- In article <1732@doitcr.doit.sub.org> jungkunz@doitcr.doit.sub.org (Helmut Jungkunz) writes:
- >Hi, I highly recommend reading the latest issue of TCJ the Computer Journal,
- >it deals with a new ECB-based computer developed in Germany(!) by Tilmann Reh
- >In der Grossenbach 46 5900 Siegen. It contains a 12 MHz Z280 with 6 MHz
- >bus to accomodate standard 8.bit externals.
- >
- >Tilmann.Reh@hrz.uni-siegen.dbp.de is his internet address.
-
- Don't forget, this is the type of machine that can run the grand
- and glorious UZI-280 Unix-clone operating system!!!
-
- The Z280 is the ultimate 8-bit CPU. People who buy Z-180 boards
- are making a big mistake.
-
- Doug Braun Intel Design Technology
- 408 765-4279
-
- dbraun@scdt.intel.com
-
- or maybe:
-
- / decwrl \
- | hplabs |
- -| oliveb |- !intelca!mipos3!cadev6!dbraun
- | amd |
- \ qantel /
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 4 Feb 92 08:23:04 GMT
- From: snorkelwacker.mit.edu!ira.uka.de!sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de!schmuck@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Karl Schmuck [Bib])
- Subject: Re: SIMTEL CP/M archives listing
- Message-ID: <1992Feb4.082304.29522@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
-
- From article <miLiFB1w164w@gnat.rent.com>, by cmcewen@gnat.rent.com (Chris McEwen):
- > todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman) writes:
- >> Does anyone have the SIMTEL CP/M archive listing
- >> in a DOS format archive (like ZOO or ZIP). I don't have a
- >> (working) CP/M machine, so I can't use the .ARK listing that
- >> comes from SIMTEL.
- >
- > Todd, there isn't a reason you can't use an ARK file. Change the file
- > extension to .ARC and use PKARC or equivalent. You might have more of a
- > problem with .LBR files. For those, you want LAR4LBR.ZIP to break the
- > files out of the library file and then UNCR233.ARC and/or UNLZHCPM.ZIP to
- > decompress the files (extracting from libraries does not decompress in
- > the same step).
- >
- > The tools I mention are for use on your MSDOS machine.
- >
- Yes, the PKARC or PKUNPAK works fine for renamed .ARK-files. For .LBR-files
- I use the DELBR11.EXE form the directory <MSDOS.STARTER>.
-
- My problem are the .?Z? files in the SIMTEL CP/M archives. I couldn't find
- a un-crunch-routine running in MSDOS environment. In the file-docs about
- CP/M archives is a UNCR232.ARC mentioned, which should do the un-crunch.
- But I couldn't find it yet.
-
- Any ideas ??????
-
- Greetings Karl
-
- --
- Karl H. Schmuck | ~~()/~~
- schmuck@rhrk.uni-kl.de | /// ====|
- -----------------------------+ /~ \ ) )) \\
- Tausche Mercedes gegen Vespa | ~( ) ~~~~~ ( )~
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Feb 92 08:57:37 GMT
- From: coyote!bbs@noao.edu (harry kight)
- Subject: Vector CP/M Computer
- Message-ID: <LqeiFB2w163w@coyote.datalog.com>
-
- Has anyone ever heard of one of these? We have a chance to pick up three of
- these for *cheap*, but they have no system disk--- so we're looking for one.
-
- If you have such an animal, are you willing to part with it?
-
- Any info on the Vector would also be great, such as what terminal emulation
- it uses, etc. Thanks in advance!
-
- ---Gramps
- gramps@coyote.datalog.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Feb 92 08:52:11 GMT
- From: coyote!bbs@noao.edu (harry kight)
- Subject: Xerox 820-II
- Message-ID: <iHeiFB1w163w@coyote.datalog.com>
-
- I, along with a friend, am running a PICS 1.6 RCP/M in Tucson on a Xerox
- 820-II with a 10 meg stock hard disk. The HD box also has a DS/DD 8" floppy,
- and we also have another drive box with DS/DD 8" floppies daisy-chained to
- the HD.
-
- The system only recognizes these additional floppies as SS/DD. Does anyone
- know how to get it to use the full capacity of these drives? Also, is there
- a way to keep the drive motors from continuously running? We're going "24
- hrs" on feb 5, so the wear & tear on the floppy drives will be considerable!
-
- Any help will be very much appreciated!
-
- ---Gramps
- gramps@coyote.datalog.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of INFO-CPM Digest V92 Issue #11
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- 14-Feb-92 08:20:55-MST,11834;000000000000
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- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 92 08:15:36 MST
- From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
- Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
- Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #12
- To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
- Message-ID: <920214081538.V92N12@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL>
-
- INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 14 Feb 92 Volume 92 : Issue 12
-
- Today's Topics:
- MSDOS Utilities
- News Reader/Mailer for CP/M?
- pd emacs clone for cpm?
- Re: 8-inch disk format? (was: The Original True Blue IBM PC)
- Re: SIMTEL CP/M archives listing (2 msgs)
- Z Fest at the Trenton Computer Festival
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 92 15:04:43 EST
- From: Mike Freeman <freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: MSDOS Utilities
- Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.0.698011483.freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
-
- Netland:
-
- In a recent digest, UNLZHCPM.ZIP and LAR4LBR.ZIP were mentioned. Where
- can one find these? Have looked onSimtel20 and haven't found 'em.
- BTW, UNCR233.ARC is in pd2::<msdos.compress>.
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Mike Freeman, K7UIJ | Internet: freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu
- 301 N.E. 107th Street | GEnie: M.FREEMAN11
- Vancouver, WA 98685 USA | Drink Canada Dry! You might not succeed,
- Telephone (206)574-8221 | but it *is* fun trying.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Feb 92 21:02:07 GMT
- From: hubcap!trev@gatech.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
- Subject: News Reader/Mailer for CP/M?
- Message-ID: <1992Feb3.210207.10701@hubcap.clemson.edu>
-
- Anybody have either a news reader or mailer (or both) running under CP/M
- that they wouldn't mind e-mailing me? I'd appreciate any help. Eventually
- I may get set up to use these things from my system. An elm/nn compatible
- folder manager is all I really need at the moment. I'd like to download
- some rather large folders and access them just as I do now with elm and nn.
-
- Thanks for any help!
-
-
- Trevor Bauknight trev@hubcap.clemson.edu ...gatech!hubcap!trev
-
- +-----------+
- | _> ### |
- Eggwater | | |
- +-----------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 5 Feb 92 18:15:40 GMT
- From: mailer.cc.fsu.edu!uflorida!thedog.cis.ufl.edu!bhm@gatech.edu (Bruce H. McIntosh)
- Subject: pd emacs clone for cpm?
- Message-ID: <34045@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>
-
- Does anyone know of a readily available emacs clone that'll run on
- cp/m? It'd be ideal if it were on simtel20 or its mirrors.
- Barring that, does anyone have suggestions for a pd or cheap(<$20)
- text editor that'll edit files larger than tpa WITHOUT having to
- be TOLD to swap text or read more of the file? I have Express 2.2,
- which is a nice editor except for that one nuisance. I don't want
- to have to keep track of where in the file I am. I want the editor
- to do that for me! :-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Feb 92 11:42:23 GMT
- From: bobsbox.rent.com!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen)
- Subject: Re: 8-inch disk format? (was: The Original True Blue IBM PC)
- Message-ID: <cDmiFB2w164w@gnat.rent.com>
-
- dmckeon@hydra.unm.edu (Denis McKeon) writes:
- [a plea for help in transferring from a dedicated word processor with
- 8 inch floppy disks].
-
- > > A little arithmetic thus suggests that the disks have 77 tracks, and 4
- > > Kb per track. There are no hints that suggest a specific sector size,
- > > although 16*256, 8*512, and 4*1024 (sectors*sector_size) are reasonable
- > > possibilities.
-
- > One respondent supplied explanations for most of the above:
-
- (other deductions are good)
- > 315,392 / 77 unclear - respondent expected 26*128 = 3328 bytes/track
- > = 4096
-
- Figure 32 sectors of 128 bytes per track. Possible for 16 sectors
- at 256, 8 at 512 and 4 at 1024, but these were uncommon.
-
- > > This would help clarify my options for recovering the data, which
- > > currently look like:
-
- Options 0 through 2 are unnecessary since you can usually find a machine
- free for the asking if you will spend the time and gas to pick it up and
- then a bit of effort to learn. How deep are your pockets? ;-) This leaves:
-
- > > 3) find an old TRS-80 or other old PC with 8-inch drives that can read
- > > the disks, and do a byte-by-byte read of every sector, modem the
- > > text to another system (Unix or DOS) and piece together the text
- > > (which might mean 8*77 pieces of:
- > > 400_bytes_of_text\0111_bytes_of_extra_garbage :-( )
-
- Except for the stuff about sector-by-sector reads. Just PIP it out the
- COM port. The machine will know how to read its disks and has no more
- interest in transmitting synch headers and other "garbage" than you have
- in reading it.
-
- _______________________________________________________________________
- Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal
- Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12
- GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080
- The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (800) 424-8825
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Feb 92 11:23:57 GMT
- From: bobsbox.rent.com!gnat!cmcewen@rutgers.edu (Chris McEwen)
- Subject: Re: SIMTEL CP/M archives listing
- Message-ID: <miLiFB1w164w@gnat.rent.com>
-
- todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman) writes:
- > Does anyone have the SIMTEL CP/M archive listing
- > in a DOS format archive (like ZOO or ZIP). I don't have a
- > (working) CP/M machine, so I can't use the .ARK listing that
- > comes from SIMTEL.
-
- Todd, there isn't a reason you can't use an ARK file. Change the file
- extension to .ARC and use PKARC or equivalent. You might have more of a
- problem with .LBR files. For those, you want LAR4LBR.ZIP to break the
- files out of the library file and then UNCR233.ARC and/or UNLZHCPM.ZIP to
- decompress the files (extracting from libraries does not decompress in
- the same step).
-
- The tools I mention are for use on your MSDOS machine.
-
- _______________________________________________________________________
- Chris McEwen Internet: cmcewen@gnat.rent.com | The Computer Journal
- Editor, TCJ uucp: ..!att!nsscmail!gnat!cmcewen | PO Box 12
- GEnie: c.mcewen -or- TCJ$ | S Plainfield NJ 07080
- The Spirit of the Individual Made This Industry | (800) 424-8825
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Feb 92 19:25:07 GMT
- From: baron!baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil (Don Maslin)
- Subject: Re: SIMTEL CP/M archives listing
- Message-ID: <1992Feb3.192507.25224@baron.uucp>
-
- todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman) writes:
- >I am trying to find some CP/M comm programs for a friend with
- >a CP/M system. Does anyone have the SIMTEL CP/M archive listing
- >in a DOS format archive (like ZOO or ZIP). I don't have a
- >(working) CP/M machine, so I can't use the .ARK listing that
- >comes from SIMTEL.
- >
- Sure you can! Just use PAK, or whatever your favorite .ARC tool is. It will
- work fine.
- - don
-
-
- Keeper of the CP/M System Disk | UUCP: {nosc ucsd crash ncr-sd}!pnet07!donm
- Archives for the Dino(saur)SIG | ARPA: baron!pnet07!donm@nosc.mil
- - San Diego Computer Society - | INET: donm@pnet07.cts.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 92 09:52:36 -0500
- From: Jay Sage <sage@ll.mit.edu>
- Subject: Z Fest at the Trenton Computer Festival
- Message-ID: <9202140952.AA14215@LL.MIT.EDU>
-
- Trenton 1992 and the CP/M Conference / Banquet
- Lee Bradley
- (slightly revised by Jay Sage)
-
- We're going to try something different this year at the 1992
- Trenton Computer Festival (TCF). We will hold our regular CP/M and
- Z-System Conference on Saturday, April 11, at the Mercer County
- Community College campus along with the other TCF events. Jay Sage
- reports that he signed up to give a talk on ZEX ("I'm going to give it
- a try."). Coming from Sage, you *know* ZEX must be a challenge!
- Terry Hazen (ZP, ZDB, IOPCLK/LDR) and Paul Chidley (YASBEC) are new
- faces we will see this year. Don't know of any other scheduled talks
- at the Conference, but if you think you'll make it and have something
- you'd like to talk about, give Jay a call at 617-965-3552, and he'll
- tell you how to get your talk on the agenda.
-
- The thing that will be different this year is that we're going to
- have our own banquet and evening session! We've talked about it for
- years; now we are going to do it! We contacted two Red Roof Inns, the
- Princeton Hyatt, and a place Dan Mareck recommended called the Stage
- Depot Motel in Pennington, NJ. The Stage Depot Motel had the best
- deal on room prices and banquet facilities. We are therefore
- recommending to all who make it to the Trenton Computer Festival this
- year that they book their room at the Stage Depot Motel and join us
- for our own Saturday evening "Z Fest" activities.
-
- The Stage Depot Motel is on Route 31 about 25 minutes away from
- the Mercer Campus in Pennington, NJ (see the ASCII map below). Their
- telephone number is 609-466-2000. When you call them (Joe Perry or
- Steve Freidman will take your reservation) tell them you're with the
- "Z Fest" party. Room prices, including the tax, are:
-
- Single Double Bed / One person 39.59
- Single Double Bed / Two people: 47.08
-
- Two Double Beds / One person: 47.08
- Two Double Beds / Two people: 50.29
-
- We envision the following approximate schedule. The TCF session
- will run until about 4 or 5 PM on Saturday. Then we will adjourn to
- the Stage Depot Motel. The Dinner/Banquet (which quite likely will be
- an informal affair) will start at 7 PM (so don't dilly dally too long
- at TCF!). We will continue with a technical session in the banquet
- room as long as there is interest. On Sunday morning the Stage Depot
- will serve danish and coffee in the conference room, and we can
- continue with informal discussions. Those who wish to can go back to
- the TCF Flea Market for the remainder of the day.
-
- For further information you may contact Lee Bradley at
- 203-666-3139.
-
- Here is an attempt at a map showing where the Stage Depot Motel
- is located relative to other landmarks for the TCF.
-
- \ RT31
- \
- \ [STAGE DEPOT MOTEL]
- \ (609)466-2000 / PRINCETON
- \ /
- \ / RT206
- \ PENNINGTON /
- \ /
- \ /
- I295 \ /
- / ~ ~ ~ ~ \ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
- / \ / \
- / \ RT31 | I295
- \ |
- TRENTON \ | [---TCF SITE---]
- STATE \ RT33 | [MERCER COM COL]
- COLLEGE ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ |~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
- TRENTON MERCERVILLE RT535
- |
- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
- I195
-
-
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-
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