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Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 222. 12-28-89 16:34.17 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Gerry Moss To: Warren Pollock Subject: DIALOGUE 128 ALSO SEE: 217, 227. Glad I was of some assistance, Warren. Tell Gary Farmaner that! Regards, Gerry Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 223. 12-28-89 19:13.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Doug Purdy To: Chris Schmidt Subject: FORMAT Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Believe the NFORMAT.COM or FORMAT.LBR files here are the ones that format the 1581. But I think they need the right CPM+.SYS file. Doug Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 225. 12-30-89 8:40.24 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Doug Purdy Subject: DIALER.TST ALSO SEE: 220, 230. Well, I have been changing and adding small bits and pieces since then but the problem I can't find is somewhere in the part where I put the data into the files. I don't think I put it into the files properly or something because my search files routines never find anything. Also I doubt severely that the part that tells the modem to dial works either! That's the one thing I don't like about programming... All of the bugs you may have to eliminate! Ohwell TTYL for now! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 227. 12-31-89 14:39.00 (RECV'D) From: Warren Pollock To: Gerry Moss Subject: DIALOGUE ALSO SEE: 222. You gave me the starting point I need, when I get a chance I want to modify your logon script, for instance I want the buffer to kick in just before the messages are read etc. Should be fun or frustrating! Just learned how to automatically dump the buffer to disk while on line, the flow control has to be on, really couldn't figure that out from the manual. - have a happy new year *!*! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 228. 12-31-89 21:59.37 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: DISKS ... ALSO SEE: 226, 231. I got it from here, but there is something wrong with it, a checksum error in un-lbring it, I will try again and see if was just a bad download or if the file on here is corrupted. It is under the name QUATRIS?.lbr in the CP/M section. How many disks do you have for me? I will bring some blanks to replace them for you. See you there!! (hopefully, everything seems alright so far!) TTYL!! And Thanks! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 229. 1-01-90 23:28.55 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Gerry Moss To: Eugene Gibas Subject: AUTOEXEC SCRIPT ALSO SEE: 224, 235. Eugene, here is a script I wrote to automate uploading files to CRS. The prompts for other bbs's may be different, but the idea should be the same. In buffer #8, I store the filenames, one to a line. l C=1 C=b #9 t "" w "=no change? " ; Language prompt t "" w "=no? " ; graphics prompt t "" w "first name? " t "Gerry" w "last name? " t "Moss" w " echo)? " t "XXXXXXXX" w "(Enter)=yes? " ; main message scan prompt t "no" w "Main Board Command? " ; main prompt t "j 3" ; join conference #3 (CP/M) w "(Enter)=yes? " ; CP/M message scan prompt t "no" w "Conference Command? " t "u" ; upload command C=b C=8 ; set buffer to #8 with filenames A=r ; ALT-R to reset line pointer $ = B 2 w "(Enter)=none? " t $ w "?" $ = B t $ w "Aborts Transfer" $ = B C=u $ w "Conference Command? " $ = B if $ = "end" : g 3 t "u" g 2 3 t "g" e Let me know what you think of this; I haven't had a chance to try it out here yet; that may be my next project. Regards, Gerry Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 230. 1-04-90 22:34.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Doug Purdy To: Chris Schmidt Subject: DIALER.TST ALSO SEE: 225, 233. If I recall correctly, professional programmers expect to spend a lot of time debugging. We seem to hope that we won't need it and then realize miracles don't happen often. My experience is debugging is much longer than programming but that's probably because I like to sit down at the screen and jump right in. Probably makes the job longer to finish and it sure makes it harder to make any changes to the software later! Doug Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 232. 1-05-90 14:18.52 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ray Whidden To: Chris Schmidt Subject: Z8E DEBUGGER Hi Chris, You were asking about another debugger, besides WADE: I have the Z8E debugger that looks pretty good and more compact than WADE. I'll put a copy of the library on the disk for you. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 233. 1-06-89 17:53.48 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Doug Purdy Subject: DIALER.TST ALSO SEE: 230. You sure hit the head of the nail dead on there. I had planned out my program quite a bit before I went to write it, and logically it should have worked, but you now the BIG difference between logically and physically!! Anyway, you can get rid of that program now unless you can find a use for it. As soon as I get mine working I will send it up. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 234. 1-06-89 17:56.53 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: DISKS .... ALSO SEE: 231, 236. That's ok, it can happen to any of us!! (espescially when we get old eh?? (just kidding!!) :):):);) Anyway, I will give you a call (probably have already!!) and we can arrange something. Thanks again in advance for all of your help!! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 235. 1-07-89 8:25.41 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Eugene Gibas To: Gerry Moss Subject: AUTOEXEC SCRIPT ALSO SEE: 229. Oh, wow! You really lost me near the end of that SCRIPT. I've buffered and saved it so I'll be giving it a serious look after I log off. Thanks very much. I've got a SCRIPT for reading through a list of Punter CONFERENCES. It's a bit crude yet, but I'll send it up for your 'perusal' if you're interested. Have a HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR, EH! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 237. 1-13-90 19:59.05 (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 238, 247. Hello Ray, Thanks for that last bit of info on the HIST comand, i wil play around with it some more soon. I was trying to reply to your last message, but the delete key doesn't work in Qterm (currently in use) and I cannont (can't) correct anthing. Any Ideas there forme? Also, how do I access the other protocols in Qterm, I found out Xmodem, but are there any oters, and where are they? thanks Ps, could you leave me your number again, I seem to have misplaced it before being able to enter it into my phone book. Thanks. (PS again, the dilaling program merged OK, but there seems to be an error with the way I set up the data files, hope to find it sometime tonight.) TTYL! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 238. 1-14-90 13:50.06 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: Chris Schmidt Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 237, 240. Howdy; Sorry to bud in but I think you can use CTRL-H within QTerm to act as a delete key. Actually, I think this only backspaced but it should do the job more or less. Hope this helps... Joe Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 239. 1-14-90 13:54.28 From: Joe Janakovic To: All Subject: ARC ALGORITHMS Hi; Does anyone know where I can get either the source code or a relocatable object module (with instructions on how to use it) for ARC250.4's crunching algorithms (#3 and 5). What I'm in the middle of doing is writing a ARC/CS-DOS imitation for the 128 (in 128 mode!) using Chris Smeets' USQ routines (which I got from CRS - I believe). The problem is, his USQ routines only includes modules for de-arcing STORED, PACKED, SQUEEZED, & SQUASHED files. The great majority of the files compressed with ARC seem to be crunched and he doesn't include the crunch algorithm in the USQ.ARC package. So, any help in locating the above in just about any form would greatly be appreciated. (I'd even settle for a copy in FORTRAN or COBOL (yech!)). Thanks.... Joe Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 240. 1-14-90 16:01.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Joe Janakovic Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 238, 242. Great!! Found it!! Thanks for the help Joe. How about enabling a protocol other than Xmodem? Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 241. 1-14-90 20:14.50 From: Dave Meyers To: Gary Bradley Subject: EXPANDER BOARD Hi Gary, How's it going? Just a quick question for you. Do you remember where you bought your expansion board or do you know where to find one? Switching the 2 cartridges is getting to be a real pain... I have seen the boards advertised in the magazines but I would like to get one here if possible. Talk at you later....... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 242. 1-14-90 20:52.28 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: Chris Schmidt Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 240, 243. Chris; Not sure I know exactly what you mean by enabling a protocol other than Xmodem. Qterm WILL check to see what KIND of Xmodem the sender is sending in (ie. 128 byte blocks, Xmodem-1K, CRC etc..) and it will adjust itself accordingly. As for other protocols, I think it only supports Kermit -- a protocol that I would desperately like to see on more 128 terminals (notably DesTerm!!) since it's the only one you can use to communicate with mainframes. Anyhow, if memory serves, you select a Kermit download by something like: CTLR-O R KA A:NAME.TYP Or something like the above... (haven't use Qterm in a few months!!). The CTRL-O, puts Qterm into 'command' mode. The R designates a recieve for download. The KA desginates a kermit Xfer with a ring of the bell when the xfer is complete -- as opposed to just silently going to terminal mode after the download in which case you wouldn't know the xfer was finish unless you were staring right at the screen during the xfer. Not something I enjoy doing!! Alternately you could try XA in the above sequence to perform a Xmodem xfer. Finally, the last parameter is the filename you wish to call it on your system. Hope this crash course in Qterm helps!! Like I said before, haven't use Qterm in awhile so no positive about all the parameters... Joe Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 243. 1-19-90 16:46.54 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Joe Janakovic Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 242, 245. Ok, thanks, I will give it a try, I was hoping that QTERM would have Ymodem (1K XMODEM) in it, but anyway, not matter. Once again, thanks for the help. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 244. 1-19-90 16:50.46 (NO KILL) From: Chris Schmidt To: All Subject: MODEM IN 128 MODE I have me a problem... I wrote a routine that dials a nunber through the modem in 64 mode, I went to use it in a 128 mde program, but it doesn't work. Are there any quirks about 128 BASIC and the modem that I should be aware of?? Thanks. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 245. 1-19-90 18:11.52 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: Chris Schmidt Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 243, 246. Chris; I believe that QTERM *DOES* have the Ymodem that you're talking about. XMODEM 1K is supported -- many people WRONGLY call this YModem (though, I don't know why!). The REAL YModem is the batch transfer protocol which allows you to select a group of files you wish to download and then do them ALL with one download command. XModem-1K only allows you to download 1 file at a time although, the block size is 1K as is YModem's. Just had to clear that up! Joe. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 246. 1-19-90 20:59.45 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Joe Janakovic Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 245. Ok, thanks again for the help. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 248. 1-20-90 24:55.25 (NO KILL) From: Ray Whidden To: All Subject: QTERM/'YMODEM' ALSO SEE: 270. Hi All Qterm users, The distinction with the advanced transfer protocols, I think, is that you tell the remote BBS, ie Learning Experience or CRS, which one and your terminal program can sort out between the different Xmodem variants, which it is. Of course, Kermit is a whole difference kettle and Joe is correct in the procedure to use it. I routinely respond ^O R XYA A:<carriage return> after starting a D Y and selecting the filenames on CRS. The A: can be replaced with any other valid drive assignment. Then I can watch TV, etc until the transfer is finished, with the remote BBS telling my system what the filenames are. Sounds like this would be a good discussion to have at a TPUG meeting. Regards, Ray Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 249. 1-20-90 18:30.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Chris Schmidt To: Ray Whidden Subject: QTERM, ETC. .... ALSO SEE: 247, 250, 273. Ok, thanks for that info, I will give it a go once I am out offf line leavi no chance of screwing anything on the BBS up. QTERM is quite an interesting program, can you give me an idea at how the script files are supposed to be configured? I tried the one you had for Learning Experience, but for some reason it froze the system. Oh neato!! I just chaged te keyfig as you said so that the DEL key would work!! Anyway, I have fixed the file data error, but now I can't get the routine that gets the modem to dial the number to work. I can't even get the modem to acknowledge that it is there. I think maybe I will bring it and ak at the next meeting. But as soon as I get it working, for sure I will uload it here and let TPUG use it on one oftheir disks if they want. The way I set it up is that the limit to how many names you can have is only limted to the amount of space on your disk. Well thanks again, I will give you a shout if I need any more help. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 250. 1-20-90 21:14.54 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Chris Schmidt Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 249, 252, 274. Hi Chris, One thing that you might notice, someday, AFTER using QTerm, is that it has a great tendency to mess things up with your system. Try doing a directory with SD, or whatever your favourite DIR program - see how S-L-O-W it is..... Thanks very much, QTerm! Not to worry howver, it is not that big a deal, you just have to ReSet a couple of things to make it right. I have written a short program called QFIX that looks after these little things. I will upload it next time I log on in CP/M mode. Bug me about it if I forget! John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 252. 1-21-90 12:14.15 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: John Milligan Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 250, 255. John; There's an easy way around the problem you mentioned about QTERM slowing the entire system down when you exit to CP/M. The problem lies in the fact that QTERM leaves the RS-232 port at 1200 baud (which is the speed you're using, right?). When the system baud-rate is 1200 baud, it uses up more time checking for in-coming characters than it does doing other things (like displaying the dir using SD or whatever). The solution: before exiting QTERM, change the baud rate to 300 baud. I think you do this by going: CTRL-O, B, 300<return> or something like that. This will restore the system to the way it was before you ran QTERM. Hope this helps... Joe Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 253. 1-21-90 16:37.05 (NO KILL) From: Brian Repic To: All Subject: 1581 DD ALSO SEE: 260, 281. Hi all! I couldn't find a Buy and Sell section on this BBS... I'm looking to buy a 1581 disk drive. If anyone has one they don't want or know where I could get one, please tell me. BTW, I'm selling a 1571 disk drive. Anyone interested, leave me a private message. Thanks. BTW, is it true that a 1581 is exactly the same as an amiga 3.5 inch drive except for the controller? Could I get an amiga drive and get it to work on my commodore? ......Brian....... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 254. 1-21-90 22:43.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Gerry Moss To: Ralph Schwarz Subject: D128 SCRIPTS ALSO SEE: 251, 256, 265. Ralph, I have no problem with that idea; I'll put together some files over the next few days and upload them here. I have autologon scripts for all bbs's I call regularly, as well as upload/download scripts for certain bbs's where I need that capability. If these are of interest, great. I'll have to add some comments and remove my passwords, etc. I'll post a msg once I upload them. Regards, Gerry Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 255. 1-22-90 12:13.01 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Joe Janakovic Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 252, 259. Hi Joe, Basically I did the same kind of thing, but put it in a command file so that all I have to do is type QFIX - and its done. I don't remember which kind of file I did it with, but it may only run under Z3Plus - so it may not be of value to someone who is not in a ZSystem, but as you pointed out, it is a fairly simple fix. John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 256. 1-22-90 12:17.21 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Gerry Moss Subject: D128 SCRIPTS ALSO SEE: 254, 291. HI Gerry, I had a logon script for this board - but it wouldn't work properly - it would give me the message 'Exec complete' or something like that before it even typed my name. I tried using the script that you had (for someone else) and ran into the same problem. I have had no problems with my scripts for the various Punter boards or CRS - just this one!!! Have you had any trouble, at any time, with this particular board? John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 257. 1-22-90 19:12.43 (NO KILL) From: Brian Repic To: All Subject: 1581/1571 Hi all! I am looking for a 1581 diskdrive...any sellers? I am selling my 1571...any buyers? Leave a private message if interested... thanks Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 258. 1-22-90 19:14.45 (NO KILL) From: Brian Repic To: All Subject: 'PACKED' FILES ALSO SEE: 266. Hi everyone. Where can I get the file unpacking utility that unpacks files with the .ARK (not ARC). What's the difference between ARC and ARK? Can someone please tell me just how many file unpacking utilities there are for the C-64 and C-128? What are they and where can I find them? Any help will be greatly appreciated... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 259. 1-22-90 19:34.23 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: John Milligan Subject: QTERM ALSO SEE: 255, 267. John; Do you mean you have a file called QFIX.COM that you run to fix the baud rate? I guess another way of doing it would be to put the command to fix the baud rate into a .SUB file (accessing the CONF utility, I guess) and then simply type SUBMIT QFIX (assuming the file is QFIX.SUB). But, I guess for me, the simplest thing to do is just remember those few keypresses before exiting QTerm. (If I forget to do it before exiting, I can always just run QTerm again, switch the baud rate and exit again!). I guess theis best thing would be to have the command interpreter execute t the .SUB file without relying on the Submit utility. Kind of like MS-DOS does with it's .BAT files. And yes, I don't have a Z system. Just plain CP/M... Joe Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 260. 1-23-90 8:25.27 (RECV'D) From: Michael Martin To: Brian Repic Subject: 1571 ALSO SEE: 253. Hello Brian. I might be interested in the 1571 drive. Can you tell me how much you want for it? Michael Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 264. 1-23-90 16:20.38 From: Tony Valente To: All Subject: SPREAD SHEET Dose anyone have a PD program of a spreadsheet for the C64/C128. If you do could you UP load it for me. thanks!! Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 265. 1-23-90 17:06.34 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Ralph Schwarz To: Gerry Moss Subject: D128 SCRIPTS ALSO SEE: 254, 292. Hi Gerry! That would be fantastic! A broad variety of BBSes and a variety of functions is just what I am after. I think it would be outstanding if you could comment them and make them easily flexible for each user's needs. That would definitely be appreciated by other users. I know that there is an unlimited number of ideas that one could theoretically make into script form for Dialogue 128, but there aren't that many users (aside from yourself) that are willing to take the time to make them (or have the capabilities to make them to begin with). In any case, I would like to thank you again, and I await your message, and the file... Thank you. TTYL, Ralph M. Schwarz Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 266. 1-24-90 9:29.45 (RECV'D) From: Dave Meyers To: Brian Repic Subject: 'PACKED' FILES ALSO SEE: 258, 268. Brian, I believe that Omega-Q 2 will un-pack ARK files. There should be a copy of it in the file directories, either 64 or 128. Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 267. 1-24-90 13:33.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: John Milligan To: Joe Janakovic Subject: QTERM/Z3 PLUS ALSO SEE: 259, 269. Hi Joe, One of the many neat thins about the Z3 PLus system is the ability to write short command (batch type) files, and have them execute in different ways, without the SUBMIT.COM file. One of the ways, for instance, is to use a neat little editor called SALIAS.COM which converts your 'batch' file into a COM file - which runs, like any other COM file, without any other utility needing to be present (unless, of course, the utility is called from the command file itself). This is what I did with the QFIX.COM file - I don't remember exactly, offhand, and I'm not in CP/M now - but it was something like.... conf baud=300, repeat=1 (or whatever the correct syntax is) and there may be another command in there too. This particular COM file, then, needs CONF.COM to be present (on some disk in the drive path) since it IS called from the command file. But, the main point is that a short (up to 250 characters) batch or submit type file can easily be converted to a COM file using SALIAS. There are other ways of using scripts and batch files in Z3 Plus. All in all, I have found Z3 Plus to be the most useful and exciting CP/M program yet. If you would like any more info on Z Systems, just ask. John Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 268. 1-24-90 16:16.02 (NO KILL) (RECV'D) From: Brian Repic To: Dave Meyers Subject: 'PACKED' FILES ALSO SEE: 266. thanks dave... Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128 Msg No: 269. 1-24-90 19:39.17 (RECV'D) From: Joe Janakovic To: John Milligan Subject: QTERM/Z3 PLUS ALSO SEE: 267, 271, 272. Hi John; In other words SALIAS is basically a compiler that will compile .SUB files! That sounds really interesting. Actually, I think I've seen something very similar to that in the public domain somewhere (probably CRS)... can't remember the name though but it was reputed to be able to 'convert text files to .COM files'. What other juicy features does the Z system come with? I notice that there are many, many, many Z-specific files on CRS. BUT, does it run standard CP/M software as well (or do you need to find the Z system version?). Also, what is the directory structure like? Does it allow a tree-like structure with sub-directories etc.. (ie. UNIX, MS-DOS)... I somehow doubt that it would... Joe