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- HOW TO USE KERMIT FOR TRANSFERRING FILES
- BETWEEN MICROCOMPUTERS
-
- Norman Weatherby, Ph.D.
- Center for Population and Family Health
- Columbia University
-
- July 24, 1984
-
-
- KERMIT (like the frog, a registered trademark of Henson
- Associates, Inc., used by permission) is ideal for transferring
- ASCII and binary files between computers of all sizes. It is a
- protocol for transferring sequential files between computers of
- all sizes over ordinary asynchronous telecommunication lines
- using packets, checksums, and retransmission to promote data
- integrity. KERMIT is non-proprietary, thoroughly documented,
- well tested, and in wide use. The protocol and the original
- implementations were developed at Columbia University and have
- been shared with many other institutions, some of which have made
- significant contributions of their own. KERMIT programs have
- been written for a wide variety of microcomputers, minicomputers,
- and mainframes.
-
- Which ones? At the end of this document is an extensive
- listing that was downloaded (using KERMIT) from a DEC mainframe
- at Columbia University. In addition, you will find the address
- to write for futher documentation, and some information for those
- who would like to participate in the growth and acceptance of
- KERMIT as one of the major file-transfer protocols.
-
- I wrote this guide so that people who have very little
- computer experience could use KERMIT to transfer files between
- CP/M micros or between CP/M and IBM PC-type systems. It simply
- tells you how to work with KERMIT, without going into its
- features.
-
- This guide was submitted to the KERMIT distributors, and
- they like it, but they have NOT stamped their approval on it. It
- is not a substitute for the real documentation. And, as the real
- documentation states:
-
- No warranty of the software nor of the accuracy of the
- documentation surrounding it is expressed or implied,
- and neither the authors nor Columbia University
- acknowledge any liability resulting from program or
- documentation errors.
-
- KERMIT is copyrighted, and it is not "public domain". Simply, it
- is a free program that is not to be sold as a product. As the
- distributors state, you are free to redistribute KERMIT on your
- own terms, and are encouraged to do so, with the following
- stipulations: KERMIT should not be sold for profit; credit should
- be given where it is due; and new material should be sent back to
- Columbia University at the address given in the summary so that
- they can maintain a definitive and comprehensive set of KERMIT
- implementations for further distribution.
-
- Where do you get KERMIT? As stated below, Columbia
- University distributes versions of the program only on nine track
- magnetic tape. You can get the program from friends, bulletin
- board systems, and various areas on services such as CompuServe.
- Look around for the latest version for your micro, and be aware
- that the program is constantly improving.
-
-
- NOW, KERMIT
-
- Without going into the details of KERMIT, this guide shows
- you how to use the program to transfer files between micro-
- computers that have KERMIT. The sections include
-
- 1. Connecting the computers, either directly or through
- modems
- 2. Setting the baud rates
- 3. Loading KERMIT into memory
- 4. Setting KERMIT's options
- 5. Communicating between computers
- 6. Sending and receiving files
- 7. Checking what was sent
- 8. Figuring out why (If) KERMIT does not work
- 9. Summary
-
-
- CONNECTING THE COMPUTERS
-
- If you are going to transfer the file over the telephone
- system through modems, hook up a
-
- full duplex modem
-
- to each computer's serial communications port (com1: on IBM PC
- type machines, or on CP/M machines, rdr:/pun: or auxin:/auxout:).
- You may need to get a cable that switches pins 2 and 3 to a modem
- if the port is a printer port (lst: or printer). If you are
- working with acoustically coupled modems, set one modem to answer
- mode and the other modem to originate mode.
-
- If you do not have two modems, and the computers are in the
- same room, you can
-
- a. Directly connect the serial modem ports of the two
- machines. The cable that is needed is one in which pins
- 2 and 3 are switched when connecting two modem ports.
-
- OR
-
- b: Directly connect the serial modem port of one computer to
- the serial (not parallel) printer port of the other
- computer. This may cause a problem, since you have to
- make sure that KERMIT talks to the printer port of the
- other machine. However, it is the only way to get, for
- example, the Osborne Executive to KERMIT a file to an IBM
- PC-type machine.
-
- One benefit of using a direct connection between the computers is
- that you can use high baud rates, such as 4800 baud, to transfer
- the files. Since you are not using modems or telephones, ignore
- the parts of this guide that concern use of the modems and
- dialing of the telephone.
-
-
- SETTING THE BAUD RATE
-
- The baud rate controlls the speed of the file transfer.
- The baud rate can be set from within KERMIT some CP/M machines,
- such as the Osborne 1 and the Intertec Superbrain, and on MSDOS
- (PCDOS) computers. One really nice feature of KERMIT is that you
- do not have to cope with that poorly-documented mode command on
- the IBM PC-type micros.
-
- If you do not know whether KERMIT handles the baud rate,
- skip forward in these instructions and load KERMIT into memory.
- At the KERMIT prompt, give the command
-
- set baud<cr>
-
- where <cr> means to "hit" the return key. KERMIT will tell you
- if the baud rate setting command has not been implemented.
-
- If you cannot set the baud rate from within KERMIT, such as
- on H89 systems, then you can get back to your operating system by
- typing, at the prompt,
-
- exit<cr>
-
- Then use the computer's software to set its baud rate, usually to
- 300 or 1200 baud when modems are used. The baud rate of a CP/M
- machine is set through the SETUP or CONFIGUR utilities supplied
- with the system.
-
-
- LOADING KERMIT INTO MEMORY
-
- Loading KERMIT into the memory of an Apple II or Atari
- computer is more difficult than loading it into CP/M or MSDOS
- (PCDOS) systems. Thus, readers should refer to other
- documentation and help files for assistance with these systems.
-
- IF YOU HAVE A HARD DISK: Micros with hard disks, such as the
- IBM PC-XT, often refer to all or part of the hard disk as disk
- C . If you have a hard disk, copy your KERMIT program and
- associated utility, help, and documentation files from the KERMIT
- floppy to the hard disk (if someone else has not copied them over
- already). Then work off of the hard disk. That is, if you do
- not see the prompt for the hard disk on your screen, type the
- command
-
- c:<cr>
-
- Then, to load KERMIT into memory, type the name of your kermit
- program, which is usually KERMIT. For example, at your operating
- system's prompt, type
-
- kermit<cr>
-
- Then skip to the section below about setting KERMIT's options.
-
- IF YOU HAVE TWO FLOPPY DRIVES: Put the KERMIT diskette in
- drive A of each computer. Note that on a CP/M machine such as a
- Kaypro, H89, or Osborne 1, it is wise to have the operating
- system on the KERMIT disk (through the use of the SYSGEN utility)
- and to type the command
-
- cntl C (without a carriage return)
-
- where cntl is the control key and C can be upper or lower
- case, to make the computer realize that a new disk has been put
- in drive A. This "warm boot" command is not necessary on micros
- that use CP/M 3.0, MSDOS, or PCDOS operating systems.
-
- Put a formatted disk in drive B of the system which is to
- receive the file. On the sending system, put the disk with the
- file that you want to transfer in drive B. Go to drive B, and
- then get into KERMIT on each machine by typing a: and the name
- of the program, which is usually KERMIT. For example, type
-
- a:kermit<cr>
-
- Newer versions of KERMIT allow you to change the "logged disk
- drive," but it is wise to follow the above advice so that you are
- sure of the disk that you are sending from or receiving to.
-
-
- SETTING KERMIT'S OPTIONS
-
- To see the options that are available in your version of
- KERMIT, type at the prompt the command
-
- status<cr>
-
- Note that the toggle command set ibm , which can be set on
- or off , is NOT FOR IBM PC MICROS--it is a command for Columbia
- University's IBM mainframes.
-
- SETTING THE PARITY: A computer "byte" is composed of eight
- bits--where each bit is a zero or one. All (english) printable
- letters, numbers, punctuation marks, and spaces between words can
- be represented by seven of the eight bits. The eighth bit is
- reserved for checking to make sure that the other seven bits are
- correct. However, some microcomputer software packages (such as
- WordStar) use the eighth bit for special characters that allow
- features such as right justification. In any event, if both
- computers allow the following command, issue it to allow the
- transmission of all eight bits:
-
- set parity none<cr>
-
- SETTING THE FILE-MODE: Microcomputers store files in two
- ways:
-
- ASCII files--codes such as letters, numbers, punctuation
- marks, and spaces, or as
-
- binary files--codes that are recognizable to a computer but
- not to you, such as the way programs are stored.
-
- If you are transferring an ASCII file, issue the command
-
- set file ascii<cr>
-
- If your are transferring a binary file, use
-
- set file binary<cr>
-
-
- SETTING THE BAUD RATE: If you can set the baud rate from
- within KERMIT, make the baud rates of both computers equal by
- typing at the prompt the command
-
- set baud xxxx<cr>
-
- where xxxx is the baud rate you want. For example, you may
- type
-
- set baud 1200<cr>
-
- If these commands do not work, try
-
- set baud ? <cr>
-
- and select the correct baud rate from a menu that is given on the
- screen. If you get messages that set baud command is not
- implemented, you will have to get out of KERMIT and set it from
- your operating system, as discussed above.
-
-
- COMMUNICATING BETWEEN COMPUTERS
-
- Then type at the prompt the command
-
- connect<cr>
-
- on each computer. This will put you into the connect mode, which
- allows one computer operator to send messages to the other
- operator through the modems or the direct connection. Note that
- KERMIT replies with an "escape" message that tells you how to get
- back to the command state of the program. WRITE DOWN THIS
- MESSAGE, AS YOU WILL NEED IT LATER.
-
- In fact, it is a good idea to test the command now. The way
- you get back to the KERMIT prompt varies by the type of system.
- In general, you will have to issue the command but add a C
- (upper or lower case) to it to get back. For example, on many
- CP/M machines that have the backslash character \ , the "escape"
- command is control \ , but you type
-
- ctrl\c (without typing a return)
-
- where ctrl is the control key. After some experimentation, you
- will see the KERMIT prompt, and then you can type the command
- connect<cr> again.
-
- For those who are using modems: From the originate modem,
- dial the answering modem. If you have an auto-dial modem, you
- can issue the dial command to it. For example, with a touch tone
- telephones and a Hayes SmartModem, the only command that is
- necessary is for the originate modem:
-
- ATDTxxxxxxx
-
- where xxxxxxx is the telephone number to dial.
-
- When the connection is made, each you each will be able to
- send and receive messages that serve to test the connection.
-
- If you want to see what you are typing, get back to the
- KERMIT prompt by typing the "escape" command that you
- wrote down and tested above. Then issue the command
-
- set loc on<cr>
-
- to have a local echo, but you must remember to
-
- set loc off<cr>
-
- before attempting to transfer a file.
-
- If the connection is not made, so that it is not possible to
- send AND receive messages, then you should check
-
- the baud rates of the computers,
- the modems, and the wiring to the modems,
- or the wiring between the directly-connected
- computers,
-
- and make sure that the computer is sending or receiving data
- to the correct port on the computer. It is also helpful, as a
- last resort, to check whether or not the telephone died because
- you forgot to pay the bill (don't laugh...it once happened to
- us!)
-
-
- SENDING AND RECEIVING FILES
-
- When each computer operator is satisfied that a connection
- has been made, then both operators return to the KERMIT prompt,
- as explained above.
-
- The operator that wants to receive a file types
-
- receive<cr>
-
- The file name will be sent from the other machine.
-
- The operator that wants to send a file types the command
-
- send [drive:]filename.ext<cr>
-
- For example, to send the file on disk B that is named
- myfile.txt , the operator would type
-
- send b:myfile.txt<cr>
-
- It is usually not necessary to type in the drive specification,
- since you should be using disk B as the "logged disk drive", but
- it is always safe to do so. If the receiving operator hits the
- return before the sending operator hits the return, it may be
- necessary for the receiving operator to hit another return before
- the file will be sent.
-
- KERMIT will wait for a few seconds, and then the operators
- will see on their screens that packets of information are being
- sent and received. KERMIT first sends the file name, and it is a
- good sign to the receiving operator when the file name appears on
- his or her screen. The number of packets will increment on both
- machines until the transfer is complete, and then each computer
- will return to the KERMIT prompt. At that time, the receiving
- operator can check the file or another file can be sent.
-
-
- CHECKING WHAT WAS SENT
-
- Once a connection has been established with KERMIT, it is
- not broken if one or both of the operators return to the
- operating system of their computers to check something such as
- the length or name of a file. Thus, when a transfer is complete,
- the receiving operator can get out of KERMIT by typing
-
- exit<cr>
-
- at the KERMIT prompt. The file that was received can be
- examined, usually by issuing the command
-
- type [drive:]filename.ext<cr>
-
- The file will scroll by on the screen, and you will see that it
- has been transferred without error!
-
- The receiving operator can then return to KERMIT by
- reloading KERMIT into memory. As stated above, go to your B disk
- and type A:KERMIT or whatever the file name of your program is.
- If you need to, reset the baud rate, and you will then be able to
- transfer another file or get into connect mode and send messages.
-
-
- FIGURING OUT WHY (IF) KERMIT DOES NOT WORK
-
- KERMIT has never, in my two years of experience with the
- program, made a mistake in sending and receiving files between
- CP/M computers or between CP/M computers and mainframes. It
- accurately transfers files even when the telephone line is
- unusable for voice transmissions because of static and noise.
-
- Operators do, however, tend to make mistakes. One such
- problem is impatience. Please let KERMIT wait for a few seconds
- before you touch a carriage return on the receiving computer to
- "make it work." If KERMIT seems to be dead after about thirty
- seconds of waiting, then something is wrong. If you were able to
- send messages back and forth in connect mode, or if KERMIT fails
- after the first four or five packets, then probably the problem
- is that one of the operators set the local echo switch on but
- forgot to set it off. It is also possible that the file that you
- wanted to send does not exist, because the sending operator
- missppelled its name in the send command.
-
- Occasionally, KERMIT will fail for reasons beyond its
- control. The transfer will fail if one of the computers involved
- goes down. For example, mainframe computers or their communi-
- cation ports often go down (that's why we are now using micros
- for most of our work, right?). A feature such as call waiting or
- intercom messages on a telephone line will stop the transmission
- if they happen during a transfer. I view these failures as
- advantages in that it shows that KERMIT is smart enough to quit
- when there is a major problem.
-
- We have also encountered a problem with the way BASICA and
- dBASE II on IBM PC-type computers mark the end of a file and save
- it. The solution is to load the file into a text editor or word
- processor and then resave it before sending it. For example,
- load a file into WordStar and then save it. An unreliable
- alternative is to copy the file using the /A parameter. The
- problem is not fully understood; it centers around the PCDOS and
- MSDOS software's use of buffered output when writing disk files.
-
- Apple II versions of KERMIT work well with DOS 3.3, but
- Apple IIs do not work so well. They are slow, there are
- differences between the II, the II+ and the IIe, and there is no
- standard way that people set up their Apple's for communications.
- If you plan to use Apple KERMIT, please check with other Apple
- KERMIT users before ordering your communications card and modem.
- Currently, the best cards may be the Apple Communications card,
- the Hayes Micromodem II, or the Super Serial Card. Actually, the
- best way may be to install a Z80 card in the Apple II and run the
- Apple CP/M version of KERMIT.
-
-
- SUMMARY
-
- KERMIT is a very powerful program, with extensive error
- checking, and thus it is ideal for transferring files between
- computers. The full documentation will show you many commands
- and options for the program. You may want to order the
- documentation, but the simple procedures in this guide may be
- adequate for your needs.
-
- Extensive documentation is available for this program from
-
- KERMIT Distribution
- Columbia University Center for Computing Activities
- 7th Floor, Watson Laboratory
- 612 West 115th Street
- New York, NY 10025
-
- There are three publications: the User's Guide, the Protocol
- Manual, and the Source Listing for your system. Each costs
- $5.00, and you should make out your check to Columbia University
- Center for Computing Activities. Make sure and tell them what
- microcomputer and operating system you are using. Those who are
- interested in mainframe implementations (which currently cost
- $100 for the complete distribution) should write for ordering
- information. Note that the KERMIT distributors can provide the
- programs only on 9-track magnetic tape in a varity of formats.
- They do not provide the program on floppies.
-
- When necessary, there are specific help files that are
- distributed with KERMIT to help with its use. For example, there
- is a help file with the Kaypro II version because of the non-
- standard way a Kaypro handles tab stops on its screen.
-
- There are also articles and announcements about KERMIT. For
- example, see BUSS #88 and June-July, 1984 issues of BYTE.
-
- Please do not call the Kermit Distribution Center for
- assistance with KERMIT for your micro. After all, it is a free
- program, and national support, sales, service, debugging,
- revisions, everything else is being handled by only two or three
- part-time people. You can write, however, for the publications.
-
- Finally, KERMIT is changing and improving constantly --
- versions are added for new systems, old versions are improved,
- and documentation is rewritten. You are encouraged to make your
- own contributions to "KERMIT culture" and to make them available
- not only to your friends, but also to send them back to Columbia
- at the address given above, on 9-track magnetic tape or IBM PC
- eight sector floppy disk. For example, we need KERMIT for
- TurboDos version 1.2, and we need to know how to implement the
- "break" key on many CP/M machines (like the H89) through
- software.
-
- The most current version of KERMIT for CP/M machines is
- 3.9a, which fixes a bug in version 3.9 that may garble the
- transmission of apmersands. A brand-new MSDOS version is soon to
- be released. Watch for new releases and updates. Meanwhile,
- below is a recent but even now out-of-date listing of available
- versions.
-
-
- CURRENT KERMIT VERSIONS as of 4:42pm Wednesday, 6 June 1984
-
- Listed in reverse chronological order of installation at Columbia. "Code" is
- the prefix under which the files are stored in the KERMIT distribution area.
-
- CURRENT KERMIT VERSIONS as of 9:46pm Wednesday, 18 July 1984
-
- Listed in reverse chronological order of installation at Columbia. "Code" is
- the prefix under which the files are stored in the KERMIT distribution area.
- New entries are added at the top.
-
- Code Machine/OS Language Ver # dd/mm/yy Author or Contact
-
- TSO IBM 370/MVS/TSO IBM Asm 1.0 18/07/84 SYSRONR@UCHIVM1.BITNET
- APP Apple II/DOS CROSS 2.1 18/07/84 G.BUSH@COLUMBIA-20
- 20 DEC-20/TOPS-20 MACRO-20 4.1(236) 18/07/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- K11 PDP11/RSX11M,M+ MACRO-11 2.18 17/07/84 ATSBDN@UOFT01.BITNET
- K11 PDP11/RSTS MACRO-11 2.18 17/07/84 ATSBDN@UOFT01.BITNET
- K11 PDP11/RT-11 MACRO-11 2.18 17/07/84 ATSBDN@UOFT01.BITNET
- APO Apollo/Aegis FORTRAN 1.0 13/07/84 John Lee, RCA Labs
- HPM HP1000/RTE FORTRAN 1.0 13/07/84 John Lee, RCA Labs
- SIR Sirius-1 MASM 1.20 12/06/84 Barry Devlin, Dublin
- ST HP3000/SoftwareTools/Ratfor 1n 18/02/84 kpd%HP-LABS@CSNET-Relay
- ST Univac/SoftwareTools/Ratfor 1n 11/06/84 kpd%HP-LABS@CSNET-Relay
- CPM Apple II/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM DECmate II/CPM80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Generic CPM80 2.2 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Generic CPM80 3.0 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CERRITOS@USC-ECL
- CPM H/Z-19/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM H/Z-100/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Kaypro II/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Osborne 1/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Superbrain/CPM80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM TRS80-II/CPM80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CERRITOS@USC-ECL
- CPM Vector Graphx/CPM ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM VT180/CPM-80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM TelconZorba/CPM80 ASM 3.9A 6/06/84 G.BUSH@COLUMBIA-20
- PRO DEC Pro-350 Bliss 1.0 1/06/84 G.BUSH@COLUMBIA-20
- VMS VAX/VMS Bliss 3.0.051 1/06/84 G.BUSH@COLUMBIA-20
- K10 DEC-10/TOPS-10 MACRO/Bliss 3(124) 1/06/84 G.BUSH@COLUMBIA-20
- TRS TRS-80 I and III M80 3.5 30/05/84 stan@RICE
- 170 Cyber 170/NOS Fortran77,asm 2.0 25/05/84 knutson@UT-NGP
- UCI IBM PC/p-System UCSD Pascal 0.1 23/05/84 KMM@CORNELLA.BITNET
- RBLC Rainbow/MS-DOS CI/86 2.14 23/05/84 LCAMPBELL@DEC-MARLBORO
- 800 ABC-800/ABCDOS BASIC-II 2.2 8/05/84 Per_Lindberg_QZ@QZCOM
- 86/APC NEC APC/CPM-86 ASM86 2.7 7/05/84 CONTEXT@WASHINGTON
- 86/RB Rainbow/CPM-86 ASM86 2.7 4/05/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- MAC80 8080 Cross Asmblr MACRO-10 10E(120) 30/04/84 CERRITOS@USC-ECL
- CPM Morrow Decision I ASM 3.9 26/04/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Nokia MikroMikko ASM 3.9 26/04/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- CPM Ohio Sci/CPM-80 ASM 3.9 26/04/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- MP PDP-11/MUMPS-11 MUMPS(1982) 11/04/84 KMM@CORNELLA.BITNET
- UCT Terak/p-System UCSD Pascal 11/04/84 KMM@CORNELLA.BITNET
- KPROTO"KERMIT Protocol Manual" 5th Ed 2/04/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- KUSER "KERMIT User Guide" English 5th Ed 5/03/84 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- MU Honeywell/MULTICS PL/I 28/02/84 P.Amaranth, Oakland U
- TA2 Tandy 2000/MS DOS MASM 1.20 16/02/84 smp@UTEXAS-11
- PRI Prime/PRIMOS PL/P 10/02/84 L.Spira, The SOURCE
- AOS Data General/AOS Ratfor 2/02/84 John Lee, G.E.
- HP1 HP-150/MS-DOS MASM 1.3 2/02/84 Frank Heartney, H-P
- CMS IBM 370/VM/CMS IBM Asm 1/02/84 CC.DAPHNE@COLUMBIA-20
- MDS Intel DevSys/ISIS PL/M 27/01/84 Chris@COLUMBIA-20
- RT PDP11/RT11 OMSI Pascal 24/01/84 Bruce Pinn, U Toronto
- HP9 HP-98xx/p-System HP Pascal 20/01/84 Gallaher@RUTGERS
- VF VAX/VMS Pascal/Fortran 18/01/84 Bruce Pinn, U Toronto
- ATA Atari/DOS Action! 9/01/84 G.TANG@SU-SCORE
- MTS IBM 370/MTS Asm, Pascal 6/01/84 "Gavin Eadie"b@UMich-MTS
- UN Univac 1100/Exec Exec Assembler 22/12/83 STEVENS@MACCWISC.MAILNET
- PC IBM PC etc/PC-DOS MASM 1.20 30/11/83 CC.Daphne@COLUMBIA-20
- PC H/Z-100 MASM 1.20 30/11/83 CC.Daphne@COLUMBIA-20
- VIC Victor 9000/CPM86 ASM86 1.1 25/11/83 Barry Devlin, Dublin
- SEE Seequa/MS DOS MASM 1.18 17/11/83 Glenn Everhart, RCA
- VIC Victor 9000/MSDOS MASM 1.18 10/11/83 Bryan Peterson, ORNL
- UX (various) Unix 17/10/83 CC.FDC@COLUMBIA-20
- VIC Victor 9000/MSDOS MASM 1.1 3/06/83 Barry Devlin, Dublin
- VX VAX/VMS VAX-11 C 24/04/83 Todd Little, DEC