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- HELP WITH FINDING THE UUCP NODE IN YOUR REGION
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-
- By: James Goldbloom (1:109/611)
- Support System for INET
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- TO ALL INET USERS:
-
- The following reply was made to Paul Andries, a new user to INET who
- had difficulty in locating a node in his region which routes UUCP
- type Internet netmail. This node is called the GATEWAY node.
-
- Please read this entire document to get a better sense of what to
- do to find the node, how to set Inet accordingly in dealing with
- possible costs, and also what questions to attempt to ask to the
- proper individuals in your region!
-
- I hope you find this document very useful if you can't find a UUCP
- node in your net region as of yet. If you did not, netmail me
- with instructions on future notes and suggestions you think I
- should include? You will be credited in future documents like this!
-
- Read on, kind user...
-
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-
- In a Message to James Goldbloom <01-21-95 21:38> Paul Andries Wrote:
-
- PA-> In order to fully test and use your software, I need a UUCP
- PA-> Gateway Address. My Hub is also the Echo Mail Co-ordinator for our
- PA-> area. Everyone POLLS him and exports their mail to him. I mentioned
- PA-> your software and I was setting it up, he was unable to give me a
- PA-> UUCP Gateway address. So this leaves me as a sitting duck unable to
- PA-> test the software.
-
- Thanks for writing, Paul. Here is some advice on seeking out a gateway:
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- In the unlikely but possible occurence your own HUB does not know what
- UUCP is, where it is, or who it is... <smile>...
-
- Send mail to node "0" in your region, who most likely is the coordinator in
- charge of your net (hopefully), and ask this question:
-
- "What node number in this net region is the node which sends routed mail
- to Internet via the UUCP gateway, so it's a local call for me?"
-
- Or, look in your nodelist for any instance of "UUCP" for a flag for
- any nodes which have it, in YOUR region. Consult someone in your
- area for software to do this (to search a nodelist, generate reports)
- and you MAY be able to do this right in your mailer (send to 'UUCP' and
- then after that try "Guucp" and lastly try "Postmaster" see what gets listed
- if any...) If any of 'em are a local call, write 'em right away to get
- permission to send to them, first!. If you find one which works for you,
- configure INET lines 4 and 6 accordingly, based on their node #, and
- how the mail should be addressed to them.
-
- In the next paragraph, when I say 'UUCP' I am also referring to the
- possibilities of it being 'GUUCP' or 'POSTMASTER'...
-
- You see the idea is to send to a node in your region which is a local
- call, thus making the internet "free" to you and your users. If there
- really is none, you may of course use any UUCP node which is the gateway
- for any region or net you pick at random (since they will most likely
- be long distance calls) but must get permission first from Postmaster there
- or whosever name is listed in the nodelist. He or she will surely ask you to
- ask the same type of question I asked you to, but usually you'll send to that
- UUCP node via ROUTED mail from YOUR local hub. This may work, but it's damned
- slow. Using a random node is a last, last, last resort, and remember you
- need permission first. INET does handle netmail costs, in the event this is
- what you have to do, but permission must be granted, and usually it will NOT
- be - because your local coordinators may set up a UUCP gateway anyway if
- enough users warranted it in your area. THAT is your goal, to save costs!
-
- Let me explain the 3 general types of routing schemes for Internet mail:
-
- This is the routing you WANT, to save costs:
-
- 1. User sends mail on your BBS - message marked crash.
- 2. Inet calls a local UUCP (Guucp, Postmaster, whatever) node in your net
- region and sends it there.
- 3. That node sends directly to Internet...
-
- The next acceptable method (routed method via local hub):
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- 1. User sends mail on your BBS
- 2. The message IS addressed to the UUCP (or whatever name) node anywhere
- but the messsage is NOT marked crash. Important!
- 3. You set up your mailer to route to your LOCAL HUB (it may be your
- backbone hub, but whichever hub you use which allows routing... ask.)
- 4. The message goes to your local hub and it then sends to the UUCP
- 5. The UUCP sends out to Internet
-
- Least desirable method (involves costs):
-
- 1. User sends mail on your BBS
- 2. Message is marked as crash, addressed to any UUCP node, anywhere, which
- gives you permission to send to them.
- 3. Your mailer calls that system directly (long distance) and you charge
- your users accordingly and setup INET.CFG accordingly (MessageCost).
-
- Ok, this summs up finding the gateway! Enjoy, and don't be afraid to ask
- people questions. The mail *must* go through!
-
- ;-)
-
- -James (1:109/611)
- Support System for INET, The Internet Connection
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-
- Please do not hesitate to write me, James Goldbloom, at 1:109/611 anytime
- in order to answer questions about configuration of INET, or
- configuration of your mailer (if I can possibly help) to handle routing.
- The author is also readily available to handle questions and answers. Send
- netmail to Mark Williamson, 1:202/750 for help.
-
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-
- Q: Can I use LISTSERV commands with Inet?
- A: Absolutely! Of course this depends on your UUCP host, but normally you
- can use any LISTSERV, MAILSERV, etc. commands to download or subscribe to
- newsletters or text files that are distributed through the Internet.
-
- What is a LISTSERV? Well, a LISTSERV is a mailing list program designed to
- copy and distribute electronic mail to everyone subscribed to a particular
- mailing list. You can use Inet to send messages to LISTSERV to subscribe
- to newsletters or just to download a file via email. I'm not going to go
- into detail on this stuff here, I'll just let you do one and you will get
- some real good information in the process!
-
- Fire up Inet and send a message to LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU. Leave the
- subject line blank (Yes, Inet 1.6 allows a blank subject line). Then, in
- the body of your message, type in:
-
- GET COPY NOTICE F=MAIL
- GET NET INTRO F=MAIL
-
- make sure this is the ONLY text in the message body. Then, send the
- message off. In a couple of hours, you'll have a couple of long messages
- waiting for you.
-
- Here's another very neat thing you can try:
-
- Load Inet again, type in 'inetlist@aug3.augsburg.edu' as the To: line.
- Leave the subject blank, and just press return once in the message, save
- it, and send it! You'll get Yanoff's list of interesting Internet sites
- around the world that you can grab information from by using Inet as your
- guide!
-
- One more before we go! This one will give you the "Navigating the
- Internet" workshop text.
-
- Type in 'LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET' as the To: line
- leave the subject blank
- Type in 'INDEX NAVIGATE F=MAIL' as the message body.
-
- When the reply comes back, it will have a list of files you can get via
- e-mail from LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET on the NAVIGATE mail list.
-
- As you should see here, UUCP hosts are much more than just person-to-person
- email gates. They offer just about all of the luxuries of full internet
- connections without the cost! Please be sure to check with your UUCP host
- Administrator before overloading his system with mail. It is a courtesy
- issue, and one that will ensure your continued use of his system :)
-
- VERY IMPORTANT: TO USE THE ABOVE INTERNET COMMANDS VIA UUCP, YOU MUST
- DISABLE ANY SIGNATURE TEXT THAT IS APPENDED TO THE
- MESSAGE. THE MESSAGE BODY CONTAINS COMMANDS FOR VARIOUS
- PROGRAMS ON HOST SYSTEMS. EXTRA GARBAGE COULD MESS THINGS
- UP.
-
- Have fun!
-
- Best regards, Mark Williamson.
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