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From: mtk@cpcug.org (Michael Kirk)
Newsgroups: alt.games.doom
Subject: Re: DOOM II out
Date: 3 Sep 1994 20:00:56 -0400
Organization: Capital PC User Group Rockville, MD USA
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <uvFQkmmt18BD071yn@cpcug.org>
References: <3SEP199415282549@summa.tamu.edu> <341lak$qr7@eis.calstate.edu> <3429ba$dj@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <342l7m$b5j@uuneo.neosoft <CvKqKs.Jt5@freenet.carleton.ca>
Reply-To: mtk@cpcug.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: cpcug.org
In article <CvKqKs.Jt5@freenet.carleton.ca>,
ab188@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sebastien Barre) wrote:
> your argument isn't valid.. your lawn chair example refers to
> something that isn't replaceable.. if someone were to grab the *ONLY* copy
> of doom 2 and not pay for it, then that would be theft.. but if your lawn
> chair wasn't for sale, but i *sat* in it for a few weeks, then I bought it
> later, then you lose nothing..
>
Yea, but in this case you had the OWNERS PERMISSION to sit in the chair
<like using shareware>. If you took it without permission, the owner has
every right to charge you with theft and anyone you gave it to with
possesion of stolen property. It really doesn't matter what your
intentions are! ID has made it public that any copy of DOOM ][ that is
now in use is pirated and illegel. They have asked that anyone having
knowledge of these pirated copies notify the SPA. I think this makes it
pretty clear. Not only do you not have the OWNERS PERMISSION, but the
OWNER is asking you to call the cops <SPA> so legel action can be taken.
> ....... but if you were to xerox something
> that will be released, and that you will buy, and you have an advance
> copy ofr yourself that you're not giving to others who won't buy it, then
> no one loses.. as I said, your arguments are very poor, because they are
> not at all similar to the current debate..
>
Using this argument I guess we should make insider trading on the
stockmarket legel too. NOT!
What it boils down to is posession or use of pirated software is not
only illegel but unethical. For those of you in colleges and
universities reading this you already know the software is illegel which
puts you in violation of the Code of Ethics you agreed to when you
applied for school. And guess who the first sacrificial lambs will be if
the SPA and it's auditing teams come knocking on your school's door?
Between loosing a few students or paying a hefty fine guess who goes
first. BTW, this is an open forum, the SPA can get names and school info
right from email addresses of people posting possesion of DOOM ][.
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