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Newsgroups: alt.games.doom
Path: oz.cdrom.com!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!festival!hwcee!mapleson
From: mapleson@cee.hw.ac.uk (Ian CR Mapleson)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for this newsgroup
Message-ID: <CvFCsw.LoJ@cee.hw.ac.uk>
Sender: news@cee.hw.ac.uk (News Administrator)
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland
References: <33l597$lpo@mizar.usc.edu> <CvBrEG.1xo@cee.hw.ac.uk> <33ud0v$6md@illuminati.io.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 00:17:19 GMT
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In article <33ud0v$6md@illuminati.io.com> hardball@io.com (Hardball) writes:
>: Anyone want to organise a vote? Discuss!
>
>: I'd be prepared to organise a vote. Say, over a week's time span, give time
>: for folks to read this and others' comments.
>
> I vote no. Aren't you the one who went into a fit when Harrell
>started posting on a.g.d.? I believe you went so far as to say you wanted
>the group to be moderated. Bleah! To hell with that. Creating new groups
>just confuses things, and it sure isn't an 'answer' to a supposed 'problem.'
> All these college kids with their account-slash-sandbox setup are
>griping because there's over 2000 messages here, oh joy.... Let's create
>even MORE Doom newsgroups, woo-woo....
>
>
Actually, NO, I wasn't the one who went into a 'fit' over Harrell, in fact I
studiously ignored his posts, aside from saying no to a moderated group. I
NEVER said I wanted a.g.d moderated. In fact I posted more then twice saying
that moderation was bad IMHO.
Get your flippin' facts straight before posting. Jeez, you can't even quote
other peoples' posts properly.
And creating new groups does not necessarily confuse things. I get email
_daily_ from folk reading a.g.d.n, asking for info they've seen mentioned
there. I said at the time that if no one tells new players to _read_ a.g.d.n
then it won't help. This is still going on. Too many just like to be
net.cops and flame. Sad, very sad.
Ian.
PS. In fact, I just checked. I _still_ have the file I posted on the
Harrell thread. Here is the part regarding Harrell. You, Hardball, should
apologise, IMHO.
"Although I'm against a moderated group because I don't like censorship, I
think the strength of feeling from those who have to download the high
volume of messages maybe be enough to push a moderated group through. I
don't know.
I'm not against alternative groups, which I think would be more productive,
such as one for editing. I think that would be a good idea. One for
announcements of all kinds sound interesting too. But the idea of a
moderated group with some individual or group of individuals in overall
charge of things I don't like. Though we may not like idiotic posts,
whatever happened to free speech? US readers, remember your constitution. A
moderated group sounds contrary to parts of it. Personally, I empathise with
those who are annoyed at the large number of people who follow up silly
posts, such as the ones from Harrell. These people are often dafter than
the silly-message posters themselves.
I have no idea how this one will roll, but I'm not in favour of a moderated
group. New groups, certainly. Moderated, no."
This was talking about making a.g.d moderated.
Half the posts on this group are because people don't _read_, they
_assume_ this, that and the other and just flame, flame. Why didn't you
email me first to check what I'd said? It would have saved me typing all
this. Sheesh! :\