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- From: peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel)
- Subject: Re: Say *perhaps* to fat binaries (was: what the new amiga-os *must* have)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Reply-To: peterk@combo.ganesha.com
- References: <4k934i$lbr@nic.wi.leidenuniv.nl> <4k9gt2$cgt@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
- Message-ID: <peterk.0mvm@combo.ganesha.com>
- Date: 13 Apr 96 21:57:47 MEZ
- Organization: Private Site
-
- In article <4k9gt2$cgt@newsbf02.news.aol.com> cmarschn@aol.com (Cmarschn) writes:
- >
- >1) I was talking about the inconsistency at the behaviour of different
- >gadgets, like cycle gadgets, radio buttons etc. The OK->close issue is
- >another problem.
-
- Where are they inconsistent? They are different gadgets and thus
- behave different. Where's the problem?
-
- >2) This problem is solved by the leading User Interface, Windows, and many
- >other interfaces, like OS/2, in the following way: A default button is
- >surrounded by a thick rectangle, showing that if you press return, it will
- >react as if this button was pressed, with the result that the window is
- >closed.
-
- No, this is not a safe solution to just surround the button by a rectangle.
- This still can't help against the case where it accepts a key press that
- was intended to go to a completely different window.
-
- >4) The Amiga doesn't use one of these systems. When a requester pops up,
- >one has to press lamiga-v or lamiga-b. These keys are hardly documented,
- >so that the ordinary Amiga user doesn't know of their existence.
-
- Documenting them in the Workbench manual, which comes with every Amiga,
- can be called "hardly documented"? Amazing.
-
- >5) The gadtools.library supports underlined characters in the description
- >of a gadget. So that when I write "_Ok" in my source code, the O will be
- >underlined. But the gadtools.library doesn't check the keyboard input. So
- >the programmer as to take care of the keys. This leads to several
- >interpretations: In some programs I can press the key given by the
- >underlined character. Within others I have to press the Alt key along with
- >the character. And even others use RAmiga as a Qualifier. Not very easy
- >to grab. And even others, like the good old Preferences programs, don't
- >use this feature at all, so I'll have to look for my mouse.
-
- Ok
-
- >6) Many programs use the shifted key to go back within a list for example.
-
- Windows does it the same way with Shift-TAB.
-
- >So I'll have to press three keys at a time. Would be easier to press
- >Cursor Up.
-
- But many GUIs are not just vertically arranged lists, so this would
- only be logical for a few cases.
-
- >7) I formatted my hard drive two or three times in the last 6 years,
- >forced by unrepairable errors. During that operation, no other
- >applications were reachable, because they were just on the way to be
- >deleted.
-
- Believe me: Shit happens. The OS has the task to avoid any dangerous
- situations if this is possible by reasonable efforts. And the assignment
- of control keys is such a reasonable effort to avoid risks.
-
- >8) Conclusion: The amount of actions that are irreversible tend to be 0.
-
- You would talk completely different, if it would have hit you *one*
- single time.
-
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