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- From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth C. Dyke)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: toy operating systems, like AmigaOS
- Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Date: 13 Apr 1996 09:09:43 GMT
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- On 04/12/96, Duanne Barry wrote:
- >
- >I've just spent the last 2 months coding a large and complex
- >algorithm on a Unix box (Sun Sparc 10).
-
- So what does this have to do with Amiga programming?
-
- >I've have made hundreds of critical bugs that generally
- >just cause the entire code to blow up (eg. memory overwriting,
- >runaway loops, etc). But never ever did any of my bugs actually
- >crash the Unix box (ie. it never needed a reboot) due to the lovely
- >memory protection.
-
- What was the price tag on that Sparc? Did you pay for it? Can SunOS/
- Solaris run in 4MB of RAM?
-
- >This is completely different from coding on an Amiga 4000
- >(which i did for a few years), where a serious bug just takes out
- >the entire machine (thus significantly lengthening coding time)...
- >from this experience, AmigaOS looks like a complete toy to me, even
- >though the machine has a MMU available... same goes for the current
- >AppleOS, which has a pretty outside (the GUI) but garbage inside.
-
- You can consider AmigaOS toy-like if you want, but it was never
- designed to be a multi-user OS with memory protection, and it probably
- never will have those features. That doesn't make it any less useful
- of a system.
-
- >Although the GUI under Unix (X-Window System) does not have the
- >consistency as AmigaOS or AppleOS (ie. almost every application has
- >different style buttons, scrollbars, etc.), it is more than liveable
- >due to the almost complete robustness of Unix underneath.
-
- The X Window system sucks rocks, regardless of the OS it's running
- on top of. It's just like as stated in the jargon file: over-sized,
- over-featured, over-engineered and incredibly over-complicated. It's
- no wonder you damned near NEED a Unix-like OS in order to even make
- it work, not to mention the RAM requirements.
-
- >Now I am contemplating buying a cheap Pentium box to run Linux
- >(freeware Unix) or waiting until PowerMac has Linux available for it.
- >I know Amiga has NetBSD available for it, but the hardware (ie. the
- >4000) is just an outdated piece of slow junk (ultra slow graphics and
- >a slow processor). Upgrading it is more expensive than buying a new
- >Pentium box.
-
- And you posted to comp.sys.amiga._programmer_ because?
-
- >(btw, WordPerfect for X-Win has been available for some time now)
-
- Yeah, so?
-
- >So, to conclude this monologue, in my view the Amiga will not be
- >taken seriously until it has fast hardware and a robust operating
- >system... I don't see this happening for at least 2 years unless
- >someone ports Linux to the upcoming PowerAmiga (if it ever comes
- out).
-
- There is a newsgroup for this kind of drivel..it's name is
- comp.sys.amiga._a_d_v_o_c_a_c_y_.
-
- -Ken
-
-
-