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- References: <DnuyrJ.H1J@cix.compulink.co.uk> <peterk.0lz7@combo.ganesha.com>
- From: "Olaf Barthel" <olsen@sourcery.han.de>
- Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 21:07:46 +0100
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- Subject: Re: Registrated developer, myth or reality?
- Message-ID: <13213857@sourcery.han.de>
-
- In Article <peterk.0lz7@combo.ganesha.com>, Dr. Peter Kittel <peterk@combo.ganesha.com> wrote:
- > In article <DnuyrJ.H1J@cix.compulink.co.uk> jralph@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Jolyon Ralph") writes:
- > >> > I also believe that BIX should play an important part in the budding
- > >> > developer support network.
- > >>
- > >> Why on earth would you want that?
- > >
- > >Probably for the same reason almost all UK developers use CIX (a very
- > >similar system to BIX based on similar software).
- > >
- > >At the time C= set up the ADSP system it was very very slow, buggy,
- > >dificult to set up and expensive to call.
- >
- > Huh? All the rest of Europe (and this included by Commodore's definition
- > Australia and New Zealand) was quite happy with ADSP and found it fast,
- > reliable, and easy to set up. Funny.
-
- I guess it depended on how well the cbmnet was supported locally. It wasn't
- that easy to get a UUCP setup up and running, but in Germany developers helped
- one another to set up the local UUCP sites. The cbmnet backbone also carried
- a UUCP installation package. Last but not least, we had Thomas Giger in
- Germany to take care of cbmger (an A3500 running Amiga Unix) and its software.
-
- > > Hardly any developers in the UK
- > >used ADSP, we convinced C= UK to allow us to exchange information on the
- > >CIX conferencing system (a commercial system) which was secure,
- > >professionally managed and much easier to use.
- >
- > And this was one of the worst moves of you guys! This effectively split
- > the Amiga developer community into THREE worlds: BIX, CIX, and ADSP,
- > with *very* few intercommunication! It was a hazzle for the engineers
- > to help for the exactly same issue on three different media. It was a
- > hazzle for the developers, as they most probably missed the better
- > part of ongoing discussions and solutions. I have sworn that this
- > shall NEVER happen again. Sorry for shouting, but this was one of the
- > stupidest things which happened at Commodore.
-
- It certainly didn't help matters. You couldn't get anything through
- to CIX and BIX from cbmnet, everyone was pretty much stirring in their
- own brew :(
-
- > >And it worked! Everyone on CIX was happy. Everyone on BIX was happy.
- >
- > Most probably you simply did not realize what all you missed.
- >
- > > I'm
- > >not sure whether people on ADSP were ever happy or not,
- >
- > Yes, definitely, ask around.
- >
- > > as we were never
- > >able to connect to it!
- >
- > I put the blame on the UK.
- >
- > >UK developers won't stop using the CIX system.
- >
- > Please do. Honestly.
- >
-
- Well... I'm of the opinion that whatever information systems are used,
- stay with them as long as we can break the barriers and have all participants
- use the same base of information. Asking the same questions three times,
- answering them three times, posting announcements three times: hell, call this
- redundancy!
-
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