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From: [e-mail] (Nils Skoruppa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Autodocs 3.1 available
Date: 27 Feb 1996 18:47:42 GMT
Organization: ceremab
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gvjke$[e-mail]>
References: <4ga53q$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Nils Skoruppa)
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Olaf Barthel"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>>In Article <4ga53q$[e-mail]>, Nils Skoruppa
>>[e-mail]> wrote:
>> I do not know, what internal difficulties AT prevent from
>> making available the Autodocs, and I understand that these
>> internal difficulties are "vertraulich" (using a term of
>> P. Kittel which I grabbed in this group).
>> Nevertheless, it should be possible to give some honest
>> statement to the Amiga community instead of now starting
>> with this "How do you want the Autodocs" - garbage.

.................

|> Wake up folks, it will take time for Amiga Technologies to get to the same
|> level of `quality' Commodore used to deliver. It's not as if the last few
|> guys & gals at Commodore just packed their stuff into crates, nailed labels
|> onto them "Software engineering", "Technical support", "Fragile" & "This
|> side up" so Amiga Technologies would just have to break them open in
Germany,
|> take the stuff out et voila, could continue where Commodore stopped. Hell,
|> there are 700 tapes from the Commodore labs & warehouse nobody really knows
|> what's on them. We don't know what happened to all the DevCon folders, we
|> don't know where all the manuscripts for the RKMs are, we don't know what
|> happened to all the debugging tools and the list continues. We're already
|> working on that stuff for almost half a year. We probably would have come
|> further *IF* there were more people to give us a hand, but there aren't
|> any. So there.


So far I know the relevant Autodocs can be kept on a single diskette
(compressed) and it should not be too difficult to find this diskette.


|>    As for the Autodocs discussion, the point has been made how programmers
|> want to see them: any way at all, but *NOW* please. But you don't just want
|> to see the stuff recycled CATS issued three years ago, don't you?


I would be happy if I could have at least these 3 years old Autodocs.
You do not know the proverb "Lieber ein Spatz in der Hand als eine
Taube auf dem Dach."

To give you a concrete example:
I was just trying to make a port of an important computer algebra
package to the Amiga, which is freely available for all other platforms
since a while, and which, as I found, could also run nicely on an Amiga1200.
Then I came to the
problem of using the new LoadRGB32() (for some function plotting
routines). A straightforward try (without Autodocs) did not work,
and then I had to wait one week before some pittiful soul
in this news group send me the corresponding Autodocs 3.1 excerpt.
For the moment this project is put on ice anyway because I decided not to
waste any further time (and since I gave my Amiga equipment for
playing to my kids anyway)


|>
|> > Personally, I decided for now not to buy any further Amiga equipment,
|> > and to leave what I have entirely to the kids --- at least
|> > some games are still available.
|>
|>    Fatalistic, are we?


I do not know whether the term "fatalistic" is really what you mean.
Frustrated, dissapointed ... yes!

By the way (BTW) it is nice that you answer at all to what I posted
(you are obviously not obliged to do so, or are you ?).
But, unfortunately,  your answer is again
in the same spirit of what I complained.
Why are you peaople at AT not able give a simple honest statement like:

"We have not yet decided whether the Autodocs will be available for
everybody or whether we shall continue to sell them. Hence ... ?"
or
"The Autodocs will be available on Aminet approximately ...."
or even better
"Nothing is decided for now, but you folks will find the Autodocs,
which are 3 years old anyway, in Aminet/dev/docs ;-)"

Instead you tell us again "We have so much, so much work, be patient,
what do you impatient kids outside know about how all this works anyway".
An honest, simple answer is really not possible ????

When, where and how the Autodocs ? Or at least : why can't you give an
answer?

Finally, dear O. Barthel, though it does not concern you directly:
It took me one afternoon (one !!!) to write several WWW pages
for the institute where I am working. And on these pages you will
find much more useful staff than on the AT pages:
"Unsere aktuelle Produktpalette ..." eurrkh
It is not possible to put the old old 3 years old Autodocs
on it ( I can tell you guys how this works; so you can
do this as a break betweeen unpacking two more
Commodore boxes).

---Nils Skoruppa

PS: My kids are running out of Amiga games right now. You think you
will still save the melting Amiga market ?


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