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- From: accolyte@wr.com.au (Accolyte)
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- Subject: Re: need help on A1200/030 board programming
- Date: 9 Feb 1996 10:18:20 GMT
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- >|> >> It appears that these boards are almost two times slower when accessin
- >|> >> CHIP RAM, than a basic A1200 (no acel. no extra RAM)!?
- >|> >>
- >|> >> 12 gauge, Blizzard and others, on the other hand, are two times faster
- >|> >> (which is normal).
- >|> >>
- >|> >> So, the question is - is there a solution to make these 030s access
- >|> >> CHIP RAM at normal speed?
- >|>
- >|> > Yep. This is true, but it is not a big problem.
- >|>
- >|> It IS a big problem as far as compatibility with software written for
- >|> unaccelerated machines goes. Anything that makes maximum use of the
- >|> unexpanded 1200's chip accessing per frame will fail dismally on such an
- >|> accelerator. Of course, some data could be put in fastram, but that isn'
- >
- > tripple-buffered effects rule here. the 030 will lose some frames, but
- > won't fall back to 25fps. The thing is that sometimes 25fps look
- > better than a effect sometimes loosing a frame :\
-
- Hmm, I dunnno about that.. seeing a frame dropped here and there doesn't
- leave a very good impression in my eyes. What kind of effects do you mean?
-
-
- >|> going to change any programs that have already been written.
- >|>
- >
- > That's true, seen from that point it is a problem. Don't want to sound
- > like one of the OS-gurus ;) but if software behaves that way it mostly
- > is done not so well.
-
- :) It's just a shame that you can't rely on the chip-speed. I mean, to
- make your code compatible with accelerators you can't use 100% of the
- stock 1200's available accesses to chip. I guess you can screw over people
- who have an accelerator without fast, but still there's other situations,
- I'm sure, where the data can't be in fast-ram.
-
- > There are exceptions, for example cpu-scroll in chipmem. Will be just
- > faster on synchronous cpus. What effect are you refering to ?
-
- No effect in particular, just a cpu-copy for example.
- Try a cached copy loop from one bitmap to another (all in chip-ram).
- It's consistently slower on my accelerated 1200, than it is when I
- remove the card completely and use the internal 020. Of course, if I move
- the source into fast the accelerator kicks arse, but that's not the point.
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