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- From: mikey@scinter.AFTAC.GOV (Michael M Brockman)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Ideas
- Date: 2 Jan 1996 01:04:08 GMT
- Organization: HQ AFTAC, Patrick AFB
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- >-1-
-
- >Basic Idea:
-
- >The Agnus chip controls the amount of ram the custom chips can
- >access. Isn't there SOME way to "trick" the custom chips into using
- >a section (a larger section) of fast ram as though it were chip
- >memory? Kind of "retargeting" all calls for chip ram to fast ram?
-
- Good idea but a bad assumption. Agnus doesn't control the amount of
- ram the custom chips can access. The bus line used by the special
- chipset does this. Fast Ram uses a completely different bus that the
- special chipset (including Agnus) CANNOT even see. Its a one way
- thing...The Fast Ram busline can use Chip Memory, but the Chip
- Memory Bus can't use Fast Ram....
-
- By the way....In theory it is possible to have up to
- 8 Megs of chip memory in an Amiga. The Chip Memory Busline supports
- this amount of memory addressing. But as you already know...the
- custom chips are only setup to handle up to 2 Meg.
-
- Programmers do get around this limitation tho....By buffering
- data into Fast Ram until it is needed, then copying the data into
- Chip Ram so the custom chips can use it....The programmers can
- anticipate when the custom chips would be needing the data and
- can have it copied there before it is needed...So it is very
- effective...
-
- >I could see a program that installs itself like a rom-kicker and
- >when the system re-boots the program sets itself up and creates
- >a section of fast ram to use as "extended" chip ram. the PROGRAM
- >would controll and re-rout/retarget all custom chip stuff. Is
- >this absolutely impossible?
-
- Possible yes...but practical..No. The PROGRAM would only be able
- to setup 2 Megs of Memory (Again...Custom Chip Limitation). The
- PROGRAM would still have to copy the data into Chip Ram so the
- custom chips could use it....Thus would be slower than just using
- Chip Ram to begin with....
-
- >Joey McDonald
- >"The guy with the ideas that never quite seem to work :)"
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- Been there...Done that....Gotta T-Shirt....Became King of the idea..
-
- I also have great ideas that someone else will use to get rich.
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