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Path: informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fischerj
From: [e-mail] (Juergen "Rally" Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: PPC compilers
Date: 17 Jan 1996 17:06:01 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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In article <4dg0o8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael van Elst) writes:
|> [e-mail] (Juergen "Rally" Fischer) writes:
|>
|> >I knew it! I knew the only way you got is misquoting! really weak.
|>
|> Misquoting ? You agreed that you have problems with the english
|> language. That's what you wrote and that's what I quoted. If you
|> wanted to say something different then you should have written that.

grrrr, you are kidding, don't you ? ;) I still hope that this is all
done with a ":)" instead of a ":|" in mind.

The original thread:
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|> You have problems with the english language.
|>
|> You said that you can't see how many bytes are written in
|>
|> *a++ = *b++;
|>
|> but you can in
|>
|> move.w (a0)+,(a1)+
|>
|> And you said this was an advantage.

This is true, I said in the special case I mentioned it's an advantage,
and I stressed I only tell about this case:

- debugging this line
- having not included the type definitions in the C-case, but defined
  it buggily char * in the header.

for this special case, if the routine is for example to copy an array
to colorregisters, a move.b will hit my eyes, while in the C case I
would maybe rather scan the instructions around for bugs.
------------

What you made of it:

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>|> You have problems with the english language.
>|>

>This is true, [...]

Thanks.
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1) You quote only partially, to make it become different sense, with even
   cutting off the words in the _same_ line, I had lower-level-just-for-fun
   flames with other dudes, but until now I met nobody who did quote as
   uncorrect as you!

2) You quote my reply to a different claim of you, this is not ok.
   My answer "this is true" was done to "you said this was an advantage",
   but stressing I did claim this only for my very special example.


I really don't know if you are

a) Just doing this intuitive, not recognizing it.

b) Just going the clever way, handling all with this behaviour,
   incorrect but doesn't provide much trouble to you, rather the
   opposite, you can get a good politician with it.

The thought that it could be b) makes me angry, as .programmer is
not a place to train this behaviour but a place to help each other.

|>
|> >"This is true, I said in the special case I mentioned it's an advantage,..."
|>
|> I am wondering why you don't try to give OCC-sources as examples
|> why assembler is soooo much more readable.

If I translate this into "your special example is non-real-world so it
doesn't care in C-programming", I agree. No tricks needed ;)

|>
|> >: *colorregptr++ = *colormapptr++;
|> >hmm your variablenames got more letters, the only difference to my example :)
|>
|> Yes. That's why you do not see the difference. With a name of 'p' I
|> might need to look up its declaration. With a name of colorregptr I
|> am quite sure that it is defined to point to a color register. No ?

yes. (Now don't cut off ;) I already admited it would have to be a own
definition, done inidividually for that loop rather than a fix include
definition usable global for all Amiga implemenations. I know that if
it's done like in _your_ example, then it's all easy.

|>
|> >I'm too lazy to look this up now, it obviously is also a unfair misquote.
|>
|> Unfair ? Is it unfair to make you read your own statements ?

a) or b) ... mhmhm... :\

|>
|> >If I puzzled something from your words together, I could get something like:
|> >Michael van Elst writes:
|> >> I am a 'c00l c0d3r', nobodys hacks are cO0l3r than my trackloaded
|> >> A500 Kick V1.2 only intros.
|>
|> Which is an obvious invention of yours. I am just quoting what you
|> write. I do not puzzle words together. I do not even quote out of
|> context.

Well, the 1st/2nd sentence, true, but the last one, I don't agree!

|>
|> --
|>                                 Michael van Elst
|>
|> Internet: [e-mail]
|>                                 "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
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   [e-mail] (Juergen "Rally" Fischer)   =:)