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                  OS/2 Hardware Issues             (Fidonet)

                 Saturday, 18-Sep-1999 to Friday, 24-Sep-1999

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  17-Sep-99 11:25:05
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: 4x4 drives

 -=> Quoting Roy J. Tellason to Will Honea <=-

 RJT> If I was going to leave them where they were and try to make some sort
 RJT> of usable Linux kernel driver for these things,  it would almost *have
 RJT> to* have some seriously nontrivial caching involved in it.  I have
 RJT> been pointed at a code snippet that allows selection of which disc,
 RJT> but that's a long ways from what's needed in there.

Well, I think that for a BBS or even a very active web page, I'd go
with something like the gizmo I picked up at a swap meet a few months
back.

It's a box with 4 CD-ROM drive, and some sort of interface board. I
bought it for the case so I didn't notice it wasn't SCSI until I got it
home.

But individual drives, rather than changers is the only rational way to
go for any kind of even moderately heavy use. Changers are ok if you
just don't want to keep swapping CDs when you switch applications or
switch windows.

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  17-Sep-99 11:29:05
  To: Dave Davidson                                     18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: Iomega ZIP

 -=> Quoting Dave Davidson to All <=-

 DD> This may have been resolved previously, however I don't have it in
 DD> my message base.

 DD> I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive. It is recognized by the
 DD> Bios and WIN98 without any additional drivers however OS/2 Warp 4
 DD> doesn't see it and the  Iomega drivers I have are for the External
 DD> Parallel port version which doesn't help with this unit.

 DD> System is; AMD K6/2-350, Award Bios, 10.2GB Seagate as Master on
 DD> Primary controller, 2.5GB Seagate as Slave. 24x NEC CD as Master on
 DD> the Secondary controller with the ZIP as Slave.

 DD> Any suggestions on how to get Warp 4 to see this drive?


I gave up trying on mine, and put in a SCSI unit. That worked fine
until I changed the drivers around. Now it still works, but it will
only eject disks if I shut down the system. :-(


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From: Leonard Erickson                                  17-Sep-99 11:33:06
  To: Louis Aubree                                      18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: Modem Upgrade?

 -=> Quoting Andy Roberts to Louis Aubree <=-

 LA> Well, USR Courier owners were very happy with upgrades to higher
 LA> speeds during the past years. But is there any way left for speed
 LA> upgrade now ? (on plain old telephone service, of course, cause
 LA> cable and ADSL modems are much different and no upgrade from POTS
 LA> to these new devices.

Nope. POTS lines have a 300-3000Hz bandwidth. Digital POTS goes up to
4000Hz. At a decent signal to noise ration, the maximum rate just
happens to be what v.34 gives. That's *all* there is, and no room for
more.

V.90 gets the higher rate by playing "digital" games, and even it can
only do so if the only "analog" segment is the one between your house
and the phone exchange.

We really and truly *have* hit the limit for modems. There's no more
bandwidth available.

So anyspeedups *require* fundamental changes in the the hardware. That
means ISDN, fractional T-1, various xDSL (ie HDSL, ADSL, etc)
technologies or cable "modems" (which are actually more like a LAN card).



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From: Leonard Erickson                                  17-Sep-99 11:41:06
  To: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

 -=> Quoting Dan Egli to All <=-

 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?

Why not just set the address it uses?

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From: Peter Knapper                                     18-Sep-99 08:37:04
  To: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

Hi Dan,

 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?

If you are running Warp 4, go to System Setup -> Hardware Manager, and if that
reports your H/W you may be in luck. If you are running Warp 3, then I dont
think Hardware Manager comes with that, although it may be able to be added I
have never tried it myself.

Lastly, some Motherboard BIOS's display the PCI bus assignments just before
they boot. This can be a rather quick display, so turn on Floppy Seek at boot
up and see if that slows things down enough to be able to read the output.
That may have the I/O port and IRQ assignments listed.

I hope this helps.........pk.


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From: Dan Egli                                          17-Sep-99 23:26:25
  To: Dave Davidson                                     18-Sep-99 11:24:17
Subj: Iomega ZIP

 -=> Quoting Dave Davidson to All <=-

 DD> I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive. It is recognized by the
 DD> Bios and WIN98 without any additional drivers however OS/2 Warp 4
 DD> doesn't see it and the  Iomega drivers I have are for the External
 DD> Parallel port version which doesn't help with this unit.

Step 1) Download Os/2 drivers from IOMEGA's web page.
Step 2) Follow their direcions, EXACTLY (web page directions. Those in the
driver archive are HORRID)
Step 3) Enjoy the Zip

:>
... Window Error:01B Illegal error.  Do not get this error.

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From: George White                                      13-Sep-99 09:46:02
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  18-Sep-99 16:01:26
Subj: PCI(?) modem and OS/2 Wa

Hi Leonard,

You wrote to Peter Knapper:

LE>Only US phone Companies could have managed to delay and marginalize
LE>ISDN from the time it was introduced (early *80s*) until now when it's
LE>almost obsolete.

Not true! Over here BT is just as expert at that sort of thing... :-(
And even _more_ expert at ripping the customer off in call charges :-(

George
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Study the past, if you would divine the future.

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From: Steve McCrystal                                   17-Sep-99 06:37:16
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    18-Sep-99 20:11:18
Subj: Sio

;
In a msg of <Tuesday September 14 1999>, Bas Heijermans writes to Kris
Steenhaut:
;
Bas,

 BH> First of all, the Qcom drivers are not stable, I have tried them
 BH> here for several day's non-stop, after a few day's they lose
 BH> connection with the FIFO and you need to reboot to get it working
 BH> again.

Well, after a half day of fiddling (wasn't worth the effort!) I finally got
the Quatech drivers installed.  To do it I had to remove the twin 16750 card I
use and replace it with one that had two 16650s on it.  THEN the Quatech
drivers could find all three ports, and my modem would work AT ALL.

I ran it that way for a couple of days.  My connect speeds jumped all the way
from 45333 to... 45333, just as I expected!  OTOH, I didn't have any real
problems while online. I haven't had any with SIO either, nor do I expect any.

Then I needed VMODEM, and the Quatech drivers were history and the dual 16750
card went back in.

 BH>  The diverance with connect speeds has to do with your
 BH> ISP-modem, your-modem and the Telco(mpany). SIO, QCOM or any
 BH> other driver have no say in this,

That's quite true, altho given Kris' level of understanding, there is simply
no way anyone will convince him.

Good luck in the attempt, tho! :^)

-[Steve]-

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From: Charlie Smith                                     18-Sep-99 18:29:07
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

Hi All!

I was sitting down getting ready to upgrade my Warp Connect system to support
hard drives bigger than 8.4 gig.  This is in preparation to the rest of the
system upgrade - new & bigger har drive and Warp 4.

I have extracted al lthe new files from IDEDASD.EXE into a special directory
and as a precaution copied all the old ones to another subdirectory.

In reading the README.TXT file from the package under section 2.2 - Updating a
Previously Installed Warp System to use the Device Driver Install program in
OS/2 System Folder / System Setup Folder.

So I started up Device Drive Install and got the page asking for source and
destination directories.  No problem - I just selceted the subdirectory
containing the new files.

However when I checked help for the destination directory, it said do NOT use
Device Driver Install to use this program to install device drivers supplied
on the installation diskettes.

Now I'm concerned.  Do I ignore the above message and install them anyway OR
do I use an alternate method like booting from floppy and then copying the new
files over by hand?

All suggestions are definitely welcome.  Thanks in advance.

Charlie Smith

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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  17-Sep-99 14:54:06
  To: Dave Davidson                                     19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: Iomega ZIP

Hello Dave!

15 Sep 99 19:34, Dave Davidson wrote to All:
 DD>  System is; AMD K6/2-350, Award Bios, 10.2GB Seagate as Master on
 DD> Primary controller, 2.5GB Seagate as Slave. 24x NEC CD as Master on
 DD> the Secondary controller with the ZIP as Slave.
    Try latest idedasd.zip from IBM's DriverPack site. It includes driver
named
ibmatapi.flt

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

... Get OS/2 - the best Windows tip around!
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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  17-Sep-99 14:55:20
  To: Dan Egli                                          19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

Hello Dan!

16 Sep 99 05:51, Dan Egli wrote to All:
 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?
    PCI modem, or PCI _Win_modem?

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

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From: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 21:32:20
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

 -=> Quoting Leonard Erickson to Dan Egli <=-

 -=> Quoting Dan Egli to All <=-

 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?

 LE> Why not just set the address it uses?

How would you know what the address is? It doesn't usually say in the dox.

... Cannibals don't eat lawyers. Professional courtesy.

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From: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 21:53:10
  To: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  19-Sep-99 08:23:21
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

 -=> Quoting Cyrill Vakhneyev to Dan Egli <=-

 CV> Hello Dan!

 CV> 16 Sep 99 05:51, Dan Egli wrote to All:
 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?
 CV> PCI modem, or PCI _Win_modem?


PCI MODEM. I will not touch winmodems!!
... So many books... so little time.

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From: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 21:53:11
  To: Charlie Smith                                     19-Sep-99 08:23:21
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

 -=> Quoting Charlie Smith to All <=-

 CS> Hi All!

 CS> I was sitting down getting ready to upgrade my Warp Connect system to
 CS> support hard drives bigger than 8.4 gig.  This is in preparation to the
 CS> rest of the system upgrade - new & bigger har drive and Warp 4.

 CS> I have extracted al lthe new files from IDEDASD.EXE into a special
 CS> directory and as a precaution copied all the old ones to another
 CS> subdirectory.
 CS> In reading the README.TXT file from the package under section 2.2 -
 CS> Updating a Previously Installed Warp System to use the Device Driver
 CS> Install program in OS/2 System Folder / System Setup Folder.

 CS> So I started up Device Drive Install and got the page asking for
 CS> source and destination directories.  No problem - I just selceted the
 CS> subdirectory containing the new files.

 CS> However when I checked help for the destination directory, it said do
 CS> NOT use Device Driver Install to use this program to install device
 CS> drivers supplied on the installation diskettes.

 CS> Now I'm concerned.  Do I ignore the above message and install them
 CS> anyway OR do I use an alternate method like booting from floppy and
 CS> then copying the new files over by hand?


My Warp 4 supports > 8.4 GB, no prob. but I didn't upgrade the IBMDSAD or
whatever it was. I just updated my IBM1S506.ADD file. You can get the latest
one from hobbes.
... Not tonight, dear.  I have a modem.

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    17-Sep-99 08:14:18
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    19-Sep-99 10:46:10
Subj: Sio

Hello Bas,
dinsdag 14 september 1999 15.12, Bas Heijermans wrote to Kris Steenhaut:

 BH> Kris Steenhaut made noise to Bas Heijermans:

 KS>> time. Don't know why, but that's what it is.

 BH> First of all, the Qcom drivers are not stable, I have tried them here
 BH> for several day's non-stop, after a few day's they lose connection
 BH> with the FIFO and you need to reboot to get it working again.

The are stable here though. Never lose anything here. Actually, the reason why
I tried the Quatech was just because I loosed connection with my occasionally.


 BH>  The
 BH> diverance with connect speeds has to do with your ISP-modem,
 BH> your-modem and the Telco(mpany). SIO, QCOM or any other driver have no
 BH> say in this, my experiance here in Belgium is that you have to force
 BH> your modem to 44000 or lower to have stable connections.

You are entitled to your experiences. With the Sio I had stable connections at
453000, with the Quatech at 48000 or 49000. That's with an 3Com 56k faxmodem.

With ISDN, it doesn't make any difference at all, apparently.




    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    17-Sep-99 08:31:24
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    19-Sep-99 10:46:10
Subj: Matrox drivers?

Hello Bas,
dinsdag 14 september 1999 15.17, Bas Heijermans wrote to Kris Steenhaut:

 KS>> Glad you are admitting it finally.

 KS>> Sadly, the originals, as you call it (2.20.8 I presume),
 KS>> don't cope anymore with biosses > 1.6.

 KS>> Sorry, but this whole Matrox businnes has turned into a
 KS>> mess.

 BH> Well it's not only Matrox that give problems, I suspect that Fixpak 10
 BH> and above have more to do with the problems.

It's a mere fact the Matrox drivers gave and give always the same problems,
from minut one they were on my 'puter, at FP 6 level. It's a mere fact too, an
el cheapo S3 Virge on almostthe same 'puter (same mobo, SCSI) does show none
of the Matrox problems. Even more: the S3 has the stability I thougt the
Matrox would have. True, the S3 needs drivers 1.03.20 or better 1.03.25.


 BH>  But I still find the
 BH> Matrox cards the best that are arround for OS/2, you just have to use
 BH> the right driver and the one that came on the CDrom doens't seem to
 BH> give me any problems whatsoever.

As I already told, the drivers on the CD-rom, even these don't work. The WPS
gets hung at boot. Probably, as you already sayd, this is due to the FP-level,
and probably coz the bios 2.6 doesn't cope anymore with these old drivers.

Bottom line: Ati Mach64 and S3 do work excellent at FP9. And the manufacturers
took care to make appropriate drivers [ATI - 3.1; S3 - 1.03.25).
Matrox on the other hand is sucking all the way since FP6, not only on my
system, but on many others, as it has turned out now. Worst af all, Matrox is
now shipping his AGP-400 with non working drivers. Purchasers have to grab
beta 2.3x drivers somewhere else.

And as S3-Virge - Savage, Riva Tnt, nVidia, and Ati have excellent drivers
now, the choice for a new one looks rather obvious to me.



    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    18-Sep-99 11:37:12
  To: Mike Ruskai                                       19-Sep-99 10:46:10
Subj: Sio

Hello Mike,
woensdag 15 september 1999 19.30, MIKE RUSKAI wrote to KRIS STEENHAUT:


 MR> If you noticed an improvement in performance when switching from SIO
 MR> to Quatech, then you could only have chosen to do the change just as
 MR> the phone company improved the lines.

Could be right. The Belgium Telco here is busy indeed with all kinds of new
projects, included ISDN. ISDN was introduced here in my region beginning from
the 2nd of August, right in the same period I switched to the Quatech.

You do have o point, indeed.



    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Daniela Engert                                    17-Sep-99 20:24:19
  To: Dave Davidson                                     19-Sep-99 23:58:06
Subj: Iomega ZIP

Hi Dave!

Thus quoth Dave Davidson to All :

 DD>  I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive. It is recognized by the
 DD> Bios  and WIN98 without any additional drivers however OS/2 Warp 4
 DD> doesn't  see it and the  Iomega drivers I have are for the External
 DD> Parallel port  version which doesn't help with this unit.

OS/2 with one of the later fixpacks has everything needed to control the
ATAPI-ZIP. If your drive doesn't show up, check if IBM1S506 or one of its
replacements reports it at bootup.

bye, Dani

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From: Louis Aubree                                      17-Sep-99 07:39:00
  To: George White                                      20-Sep-99 07:46:04
Subj: Pci(?) Modem and os/2 wa

Hello George,

You wrote about expected ADSL services in G.B. :

GW> From a current UK magazine (Computer Shopper - Cover date Oct
GW> 1999, page 487).
GW>
GW> "BT has now committed to a date for its much anticipated ADSL
GW> service, although technical hitches may well crop up to add delays.
GW>
GW> From March 2000, the service is expected to be offered from more
GW> than 400 digital exchanges, covering around a quarter of the
GW> population. The company expects that most large cities will be
GW> covered by 2002. With services priced from 30UKP per month and
GW> streams of 512Kbit/s, 2Mbit/s and 2.5Mbit/s, ADSL will almost
GW> certainly mean the end of IDSN."

It's not "IDSN", it's "ISDN". ISDN is more than mere data lines, it
has also many features for workplaces.

Also, ISDN has a _guaranteed_ (steady) data flow speed from end to
end and a guaranteed delivery, and even is less prone to eavesdrop,
all of this when using ISDN from end to end.

What is threatened by ADSL is _Internet access_ through ISDN.

The end of ISDN could come when ADSL is generalised and only if the
phone companies ensure more than Internet access, i.e. direct calls
through their lines to other ADSL suscribers, without throwing data
in the Internet hazard. (Then, the private ISDN switchboards should
also be replaced before leaving ISDN to history).

  < s n i p >

GW> Although it doesn't say so, I suspect calls will still be charged
GW> on the same basis as at present.

Hum! ADSL has a quite different logic. Instead of exclusive use of a small
pipe from end to end, it has _shared_ use of big lines with data sent
in packets. So the logic of ADSL is to pay for the data volume, not
for the time spent.

    L.A.
...
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From: Dave Davidson                                     19-Sep-99 06:43:00
  To: Dan Egli                                          20-Sep-99 07:46:04
Subj: Iomega ZIP

Hiya Dan,

17-Sep-99 23:26:50, Dan Egli wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Iomega ZIP


 DD>> I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive.

 DE> Step 1) Download Os/2 drivers from IOMEGA's web page. Step 2)
 DE> Follow their direcions, EXACTLY (web page directions. Those in the
 DE> driver archive are HORRID) Step 3) Enjoy the Zip

 Will do. Thanks a bunch!


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        [e-mail]
                                      ICQ: 37076334
                                      [e-mail]

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From: Dave Davidson                                     19-Sep-99 06:45:05
  To: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  20-Sep-99 07:46:04
Subj: Iomega ZIP

Hiya Cyrill,

17-Sep-99 14:54:13, Cyrill Vakhneyev wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Iomega ZIP

 CV> Hello Dave!

 CV> 15 Sep 99 19:34, Dave Davidson wrote to All:
 DD>> System is; AMD K6/2-350, Award Bios, 10.2GB Seagate as Master on
 DD>> Primary controller, 2.5GB Seagate as Slave. 24x NEC CD as Master
 DD>> on the Secondary controller with the ZIP as Slave.
 CV> Try latest idedasd.zip from IBM's DriverPack site. It includes
 CV> driver named ibmatapi.flt

 Another great suggestion to try. Thanks.


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        [e-mail]
                                      ICQ: 37076334
                                      [e-mail]


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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    18-Sep-99 15:37:16
  To: Dave Davidson                                     20-Sep-99 07:46:04
Subj: Iomega ZIP

Hello Dave,
woensdag 15 september 1999 20.34, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD>  This may have been resolved previously, however I don't have it in my
 DD>  message base.

 DD>  I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive. It is recognized by the
 DD> Bios and WIN98 without any additional drivers however OS/2 Warp 4
 DD> doesn't see it and the  Iomega drivers I have are for the External
 DD> Parallel port version which doesn't help with this unit.

Well, the answer is very straightforward:

1° You have to apply Fixpack 6

2° Afterwards, you have to enter manually in the config.sys:

Basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT

In the event you are working on a Warp with NO fixpackages above FP5 (such as
Czech), you'll have to grabb the newdasd.exe file from somewhere.



    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  20-Sep-99 12:14:24
  To: Charlie Smith                                     20-Sep-99 13:24:17
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

Hello Charlie!

18 Sep 99 17:29, Charlie Smith wrote to All:
 CS> Now I'm concerned.  Do I ignore the above message and install them
 CS> anyway OR do I use an alternate method like booting from floppy and
 CS> then copying the new files over by hand?
    1) Unzip new driver's archve in some temp catalog.
    2) Backup old files with same names.
    3) Just copy new files over old ones in \os2\boot
    4) If you want use ibmatapi.flt, add basedev=ibmatapi.flt to config.sys
using any text editor.
    5) Reboot
    6) Enjoy. But...
    In some cases latest (4.50 or newer) drivers couldn't work fast and
stable.
It's a problem in PCI bus on some M/B :( Find prevous versions. 4.20 for
example. Or try Dani's driver danis506.zip from Hobbes.

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

... You're throwing it all out the Windows!
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From: Holger Granholm                                   19-Sep-99 21:03:00
  To: George White                                      20-Sep-99 17:59:16
Subj: PCI(?) modem and OS/2 Wa

In a message dated 09-13-99, George White said to Leonard Erickson:

Hi George,

GW>Not true! Over here BT is just as expert at that sort of thing...
GW>:-( And even _more_ expert at ripping the customer off in call
GW>charges :-(

Yeah, I know, I read PCW!

Holger

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From: Steve McCrystal                                   19-Sep-99 08:19:03
  To: Gene Tucker                                       20-Sep-99 17:59:16
Subj: Sio

;
In a msg of <Friday September 17 1999>, Gene Tucker writes to =:
;
Gene,

 SM>> I wish I could make beta 9 work right for me.  I haven't
 SM>> mentioned it much, because it IS a beta.  Someone here was
 SM>> kind enough to email me his config file, which I modified
 SM>> for my hardware, but it still doesn't work *right*. OTOH,
 SM>> the 1.60 release I'm using works just fine.

 GT> It was me Steve.:)

Yes, it was, altho I had forgotten till I remembered where I filed the
original.

Thanks again, Gene!

 GT>  I did notice something odd when I set it up. I
 GT> had trouble because a line was repeated in the wrong place in the
 GT> config.sys. I can only say that it had to be my error or even
 GT> possibly the editor from FC/2. But I did find it viewing the
 GT> config with the ehanced editor from OS/2. what was really
 GT> weird is this abnormal line did not even show up in the FC/2
 GT> editor/

Darn, that IS odd!  I rarely use EPM, especially on CONFIG.SYS, since on a
number of occasions early on *IT* did some very wierd things to the file! It's
been a while, but as I recall it, on its' own, concatenated several lines into
a single line that (obviously) really fouled things up. Now I use Tedit to
work on CONFIG.

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       19-Sep-99 22:26:00
  To: CHARLIE SMITH                                     20-Sep-99 20:42:18
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

Some senseless babbling from Charlie Smith to All
on 09-18-99  18:29 about IDEDASD Upgrade...

 CS> Hi All!

 CS> I was sitting down getting ready to upgrade my Warp Connect system to
 CS> support hard drives bigger than 8.4 gig.  This is in preparation to the
 CS> rest of the system upgrade - new & bigger har drive and Warp 4.
[snip]

 CS> Now I'm concerned.  Do I ignore the above message and install them
 CS> anyway OR do I use an alternate method like booting from floppy and
 CS> then copying the new files over by hand?

 CS> All suggestions are definitely welcome.  Thanks in advance.

Ignore it.  You can also just copy the files manually.  *.add, *.flt, and
*.dmd goes into the \os2\boot directory.

If you want to install OS/2 on a drive which requires the new drivers, then
you'll need to copy those files to disk 1 (the second) of the installation
diskettes (a backup copy, of course).

Mike Ruskai
[e-mail]


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From: Bas Heijermans                                    19-Sep-99 09:03:20
  To: Holger Granholm                                   20-Sep-99 23:26:23
Subj: Matrox drivers?

Holger Granholm made noise to Bas Heijermans:

Hi Holger,

BH>NetScape is another story, that piece of crap (versions 4.04 and
BH>2.02) has problems on any computer or OS/2 any version that I have
BH>seen so far.

 HG> Tell me more!  What's your problem?  Running NS 2.02 here
 HG> without any apparent problems.

I have most of all FTP-aborts and NS-crashes.

Warp3SMP,

Bas Heijermans.

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From: Bas Heijermans                                    19-Sep-99 09:04:25
  To: Eddy Thilleman                                    20-Sep-99 23:26:23
Subj: Sio

Eddy Thilleman made noise to Bas Heijermans:

Hi Eddy,

BH> Here in Belgium Belgacom doesn't promise rates over 9600 Bps and in
BH> most cases up-to 44000 will be good and stable, but I wouldn't
BH> recomment any higher rates.

 ET> I guess you're unlucky. :(

Well no quite:-)

 ET> The Dutch PTT Telecom doesn't guarantee anything for data
 ET> transport over the plain old analog telecom system, with my
 ET> ISP I get most connect speeds at 50667, sometimes at 52000
 ET> and once last week I saw a 53333 bps connect, all stable and
 ET> no data lost, I download compressed files from internet,
 ET> typically with througput between 5000 and 6000 CPS,
 ET> uncompressed text files and HTML files (because they are
 ET> uncompressed text files) around 11500 CPS.

I use ISDN now, works far better than all analog stuff.

Warp3SMP,

Bas Heijermans.

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From: Will Honea                                        21-Sep-99 02:06:02
  To: Steve McCrystal                                   21-Sep-99 02:06:02
Subj: Sio

Steve McCrystal wrote to Gene Tucker on 09-19-1999

SM> Darn, that IS odd!  I rarely use EPM, especially on
SM> CONFIG.SYS, since on a number of occasions early on *IT*
SM> did some very wierd things to the file! It's been a while,
SM> but as I recall it, on its' own, concatenated several lines
SM> into a single line that (obviously) really fouled things
SM> up. Now I use Tedit to work on CONFIG.

EPM is so damned flexible it can kill you in a number of ways.  The
version that came with Warp 3 was limited to 256 character lines and
wrapped.  The 6.03 versions allow you to set the right margin up to
1599 characters - and I've seen lines in config.sys push that, although
a bit of pruning was in order anyway.

The worst trick it can pull is when you hit the 'reformat paragraph'
key - boy, does that mess up config.sys!  Still, it's my editor of
choice for programming.

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  20-Sep-99 02:44:01
  To: Dan Egli                                          21-Sep-99 07:57:16
Subj: PCI Modem and OS/2 4

 -=> Quoting Dan Egli to Leonard Erickson <=-

 DE> I have a box w/ 1 ISA modem in it. No prob. Standard 2f8 address, std
 DE> irq of 3. Now, I have a PCI modem that I want to add. But it's not
 DE> standard com address. And since there's no Windows on this box (except
 DE> Os/2s windows) I don't know what settings to force in SIO. Anyone got
 DE> any tips?

 LE> Why not just set the address it uses?

 DE> How would you know what the address is? It doesn't usually say in the
 DE> dox.

That sucks. Try contacting the manufacturer.


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From: Leonard Erickson                                  20-Sep-99 14:28:03
  To: Kris Steenhaut                                    21-Sep-99 07:57:16
Subj: Sio

 -=> Quoting Kris Steenhaut to Bas Heijermans <=-

 BH>  The
 BH> diverance with connect speeds has to do with your ISP-modem,
 BH> your-modem and the Telco(mpany). SIO, QCOM or any other driver have no
 BH> say in this, my experiance here in Belgium is that you have to force
 BH> your modem to 44000 or lower to have stable connections.

 KS> You are entitled to your experiences. With the Sio I had stable
 KS> connections at 453000, with the Quatech at 48000 or 49000. That's with
 KS> an 3Com 56k faxmodem.

It's not a matter of experiences. It's a matter of how the *hardware*
works. The bps rate of the connection is determined by the *modems*. No
software running on the computer can possibly affect this.

The drivers can only affect the rate that data travels between the
modem and the serial interface (even internal modems have a serial
interface, it's just built onto the same card.

Whatever the source of your difference in connect rates, it's *not* the
drivers. If nothing else will convince you, stop and consider just
*where* the CONNECT XXXXX message *comes* from. It comes from the
*modem*. The drivers don't affect the modem at all. Just the serial
port. So how on earth can they make the modem report something
different?

The modem will report the *same* connect rate whether it's hooked to a
computer running OS/2, Win95/98, Linux, etc. Or if it's hooked to a
dumb terminal.

Drivers *can* limit the rate at which data moves from the modem to your
system. But that's *not* the connect rate! Dig up some books on serial
communication and find out the difference between DCE rate (modem to
modem), and DTE rate (modem to computer). The CONNECT 46000 is a DCE
rate, *not* a DTE rate.

It's possible to get CONNECT 46000 with a DTE rate of 1200 bps. And
yes, you are limited to whichever of the *three* rates is *slowest*.

              DTE            DCE             DTE
your computer <-> your modem <-> their modem <-> their computer.

So whichever rate is slowest (your DTE, their DTE, or the DCE) is the
transfer limit. Your drivers determine whether or not your OS can
handle data ass fast as it comes at high DTE rates. But the *hardware*
is still running at whatever DTE rate you set, probably 115200.

 KS> With ISDN, it doesn't make any difference at all, apparently.

Of course not. ISDN is a *fixed* transfer rate. 64kbps per B channel,
16kbps per D channel. Certain types of (older) B channel hardware steal
bit 7 for synchronization purposes. On those links, 56k is the limit.
They rare and getting rarer.

But again, even *thinking* that the drivers would make a difference
here merely shows that you don't understand how the hardware works.


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From: Charlie Smith                                     20-Sep-99 21:00:01
  To: MIKE RUSKAI                                       21-Sep-99 07:57:16
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

 -=> Quoting MIKE RUSKAI to CHARLIE SMITH <=-

 MR> Ignore it.  You can also just copy the files manually.  *.add, *.flt,
 MR> and  *.dmd goes into the \os2\boot directory.

This is exactly what I decided to do.  I can always back them with the
saved copies.

 MR> If you want to install OS/2 on a drive which requires the new drivers,
 MR> then  you'll need to copy those files to disk 1 (the second) of the
 MR> installation  diskettes (a backup copy, of course).

That is the ultimate goal - install and 8.4 gig disk (all I could
afford).  However the Warp 4 diskettes that I have (3 in all) have
one file (OS2CDROM.DMD) on disk 2 (third) so that's where I copied it.
All the others got copied to disk 1.

Thanks for the reply

Charlie Smith


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From: Steve McCrystal                                   20-Sep-99 06:44:07
  To: Kris Steenhaut                                    21-Sep-99 15:22:24
Subj: Sio

;
In a msg of <Friday September 17 1999>, Kris Steenhaut writes to Bas
Heijermans:
;
Kris,

 BH>> First of all, the Qcom drivers are not stable, I have tried
 BH>> them here for several day's non-stop, after a few day's they
 BH>> lose connection with the FIFO and you need to reboot to get
 BH>> it working again.

 KS> The are stable here though.

Much like the Matrox drivers are, everywhere else!

 KS>  Never lose anything here. Actually, the reason why I tried the
 KS> Quatech was just because I loosed connection with my occasionally.

Another problem for which COM port drivers will do absolutely nothing!

 KS> You are entitled to your experiences. With the Sio I had stable
 KS> connections at 453000, with the Quatech at 48000 or 49000. That's
 KS> with an 3Com 56k faxmodem.

Again, any change in analog speed negotiation is due to some change in either
your ISPs hardware or the phone lines (assuming you didn't change *your*
modem).  It *IS NOT*, and can not possibly be, due to changing from SIO to the
Quatech drivers. Period!

-[Steve]-

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  21-Sep-99 02:49:02
  To: Daniela Engert                                    21-Sep-99 15:22:24
Subj: Iomega ZIP

 -=> Quoting Daniela Engert to Dave Davidson <=-

 DD>  I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive. It is recognized by the
 DD> Bios  and WIN98 without any additional drivers however OS/2 Warp 4
 DD> doesn't  see it and the  Iomega drivers I have are for the External
 DD> Parallel port  version which doesn't help with this unit.

 DE> OS/2 with one of the later fixpacks has everything needed to control
 DE> the ATAPI-ZIP. If your drive doesn't show up, check if IBM1S506 or one
 DE> of its replacements reports it at bootup.

My SCSI ZIP works, but it acts as a *non*-removable drive. Any idea
what I need to change?

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    20-Sep-99 20:00:14
  To: Kris Steenhaut                                    21-Sep-99 19:35:23
Subj: SIO

Hello Kris,

15 Sep 99 08:58, Kris Steenhaut wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

KS> I didn't say you ar using the Warp stock drivers, as I understood it,
KS> you said there is't much difference between the different brands.

I don't remember I said that, but frankly I'm not going to search my
messagebase to look at previous messages. I can remember others have said
that.

KS> That's why I asked if you made a life comparison already.

I didn't, and I don't remember I said that.

KS> Nevertheless my apologies.

Accepted. :)

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: [e-mail]

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    20-Sep-99 20:03:23
  To: Kris Steenhaut                                    21-Sep-99 19:35:23
Subj: Logitech TrackMan Marble

Hello Kris,

15 Sep 99 09:17, Kris Steenhaut wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

ET>> I've a Logitech mouse with two buttons and a scroll wheel which
ET>> acts also as a third button (by pressing it down), I have an OS/2
ET>> mouse driver with support for the scroll wheel:

KS> Do I read it right: you can use the 3th buttom as 3th button by
KS> pressing it down, and also you can use the scrolling up and down
KS> feature?

Yes, you read that correctly. :-)

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: [e-mail]

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From: Bas Heijermans                                    20-Sep-99 11:49:18
  To: Kris Steenhaut                                    21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Sio

Kris Steenhaut made noise to Bas Heijermans:

Hi Kris,

 KS>> time. Don't know why, but that's what it is.

 BH> First of all, the Qcom drivers are not stable, I have tried them here
 BH> for several day's non-stop, after a few day's they lose connection
 BH> with the FIFO and you need to reboot to get it working again.

 KS> The are stable here though. Never lose anything here.
 KS> Actually, the reason why I tried the Quatech was just
 KS> because I loosed connection with my occasionally.

Loosing connections has nothing to do with the driver, it's modem related.

 BH>  The diverance with connect speeds has to do with your
 BH> ISP-modem, your-modem and the Telco(mpany). SIO, QCOM or any
 BH> other driver have no say in this, my experiance here in Belgium
 BH> is that you have to force your modem to 44000 or lower to have
 BH> stable connections.

 KS> You are entitled to your experiences. With the Sio I had
 KS> stable connections at 453000, with the Quatech at 48000 or
 KS> 49000. That's with an 3Com 56k faxmodem.

The connect speed is made by your modem and has nothing to do with whatever
driver you use.

 KS> With ISDN, it doesn't make any difference at all,
 KS> apparently.

ISDN is allways 64000 with and ISDN-card:-)

Warp3SMP,

Bas Heijermans.

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From: Bas Heijermans                                    20-Sep-99 11:54:11
  To: Steve McCrystal                                   21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Sio

Steve McCrystal made noise to Bas Heijermans:

Hi Steve,

 BH> First of all, the Qcom drivers are not stable, I have tried them
 BH> here for several day's non-stop, after a few day's they lose
 BH> connection with the FIFO and you need to reboot to get it working
 BH> again.

 SM> Well, after a half day of fiddling (wasn't worth the
 SM> effort!) I finally got the Quatech drivers installed.  To do
 SM> it I had to remove the twin 16750 card I use and replace it
 SM> with one that had two 16650s on it.  THEN the Quatech
 SM> drivers could find all three ports, and my modem would work
 SM> AT ALL.

I tried them because SIO has problems with my Digiboard and SMP, the best
choice for me is COM.SYS for the 2 normal ports and DGX.SYS for the 16 ports
on the Digiboard.
I had replaced all the 16550's on that board for 16650's and that solved the
problems, nor did SIO or QCOM did.
SIO is fine on normal cards together with SMP but not for special cards.

 SM> I ran it that way for a couple of days.  My connect speeds
 SM> jumped all the way from 45333 to... 45333, just as I
 SM> expected!  OTOH, I didn't have any real problems while
 SM> online. I haven't had any with SIO either, nor do I expect
 SM> any.

 SM> Then I needed VMODEM, and the Quatech drivers were history
 SM> and the dual 16750 card went back in.

You have made the right move:-)

 BH>  The diverance with connect speeds has to do with your
 BH> ISP-modem, your-modem and the Telco(mpany). SIO, QCOM or any
 BH> other driver have no say in this,

 SM> That's quite true, altho given Kris' level of understanding,
 SM> there is simply no way anyone will convince him.

I gave up:-)

Warp3SMP,

Bas Heijermans.

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    19-Sep-99 10:04:15
  To: Don Guy                                           21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Logitech TrackMan Marble

Hello Don,
donderdag 16 september 1999 22.46, Don Guy wrote to Kris Steenhaut:


 DG> Greetings Kris!

 DG>    A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a coded message from
 DG> Kris Steenhaut to Don Guy was intercepted...

 KS>> You'll need Xit or MSE (or both) in order the reassign the 3th
 KS>> button.

 DG> Any suggestion as to where I could pick either of them up?

I purchased both at www.bmtmicro.com. Likely the shareware archives are on
Hobbes. But I didn't check that out.


    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    19-Sep-99 09:19:12
  To: Eddy Thilleman                                    21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Iomega Zip

Hello Eddy,
donderdag 16 september 1999 23.57, Eddy Thilleman wrote to Kris Steenhaut:

 ET> Hello Kris,

 ET> 13 Sep 99 12:21, Kris Steenhaut wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

 KS>>>> The 2.21 are messing up the whole screen. Back on 2.31 now, and
 KS>>>> awaiting the SDD as ultimate resource.

 ET>>> I never have experienced these problems.

 KS>> Are your seamless Winos2 sessions working now too?

 ET> Yes, it's works fine. Despite I don't have a seamless option in the
 ET> winos2 setup, seamless winos2 is working fine. I didn't know that
 ET> until I tried winos2 seamless.

 ET> I'm running the Matrox v2.21 video driver at 1280x102 at 32-bits. I've
 ET> the Scitech drivers but haven't tried them so far.

The 2.21 don't work anymore here, probably coz they don't cope with the 2.6
bios and FP9.


    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    19-Sep-99 09:21:16
  To: Mike Roark                                        21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Matrox drivers?

Hello Mike,
donderdag 16 september 1999 20.55, Mike Roark wrote to Kris Steenhaut:


 MR> No, but you are the only one that continuously complains. And it does
 MR> get boring.

Nope.

 KS>> I would it could be thrue. But a good nap will not fix the
 KS>> sucking Matrox 2.21-2.22-2.23 drivers. And these drivers are
 KS>> genuine GA. So, the only one to blame is Matrox.

 MR> BZZZZT! Wrong answer.. Mine work just fine. Obviously George's do to.
 MR> And a lot of other folks say the same thing. When asked what card to
 MR> recommend, a lot of people say Matrox.

Even the guru who sold me the card has admitted now he has problems. A lot of
people did buy coz it was recommended, a lot of people are complaining now.
No, it's not only me.


 MR> Obviously something is wrong with YOUR system.

Again the "it's only you trick". No, I do compare the Matrox with a simple
S3-Virge onto the same Mobo, for instance. The S3 is stable, the Matrox
unstable. It is definitely the Matrox.

 MR>  But you continuously
 MR> blame Matrox because you can't find the problem with YOUR system. You
 MR> state that you have 3 systems with OS/2 on them. Are they identical
 MR> except for the video drivers? I'd bet not. It's often the little
 MR> things that go unnoticed that make it appear that something is wrong
 MR> with a part. How large are the os2.ini and the os2sys.ini files? Are
 MR> they corrupt? Have you re-built them? How many times have you changed
 MR> video cards? Are you sure that everything was done correctly? Perhaps
 MR> missed a step? No one is perfect, and missing something that is
 MR> important can happen to anyone.

If "it was only me", you could have a point. But know I know it is about the
Matrox. Moreover, the Matrox problem has been a diagnostic of the Matrox
problem, and the problem is the BMGAX64.DLL.
The behaviour of this driver is erratic: on some systems no problems,  on
other systems problems and/or severe problems.

You want to know more? Mail to:


***  Internet: [e-mail]
     Fidonet: 2:2490/2576

 MR> That's a lot of questions. Let's see if there is a civilized answer
 MR> to
 MR> any of them.

BTW: I switched the Matrox drivers for the SDD beta, did that too. And all
problems were gone. One more prove it is about the Matrox drivers. Sadly, the
SDD drivers are still beta, and do have some problems with the Acrobatic
reader. And while I was busy, I could see the BMGAX64.DLL does have weird
behaviour indeed. It stays locked for ever, even is there isn't any entry in
the config.sys nor the *.ini's. Even Matrox own "uninstall clean" isn't able
to delete the file.


    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Kris Steenhaut                                    19-Sep-99 09:56:23
  To: Holger Granholm                                   21-Sep-99 23:45:25
Subj: Matrox drivers?

Hello Holger,
donderdag 16 september 1999 19.50, Holger Granholm wrote to Bas Heijermans:

 HG> In a message dated 09-14-99, Bas Heijermans said to Kris Steenhaut:

 HG> Hello Bas,

 BH>> NetScape is another story, that piece of crap (versions 4.04 and
 BH>> 2.02) has problems on any computer or OS/2 any version that I have
 BH>> seen so far.

 HG> Tell me more!  What's your problem?  Running NS 2.02 here without any
 HG> apparent problems.

Let me have a guess: you don't have a Matrox Video, do you?


    Groeten uit Gent,
    Regards/2

      Kris

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From: Will Honea                                        22-Sep-99 01:10:00
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    22-Sep-99 01:10:00
Subj: Sio

Bas Heijermans wrote to Kris Steenhaut on 09-20-1999

BH>  KS> The are stable here though. Never lose anything here.
BH>  KS> Actually, the reason why I tried the Quatech was just
BH>  KS> because I loosed connection with my occasionally.
BH>
BH> Loosing connections has nothing to do with the driver, it's modem
BH> related.

There is a problem with some versions of the 4.1 IP stack that result
in stalls on some systems which will result in a timeout, but that's
STILL not a com driver problem!

Will Honea <[e-mail]>
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From: Dan Egli                                          21-Sep-99 19:52:14
  To: Dave Davidson                                     22-Sep-99 06:08:25
Subj: Iomega ZIP

 -=> Quoting Dave Davidson to Dan Egli <=-

 DD>
 DD> Hiya Dan,

 DD> 17-Sep-99 23:26:50, Dan Egli wrote to Dave Davidson
 DD> Subject: Iomega ZIP


 DD>> I have an Iomega ZIP ATAPI Internal drive.

 DE> Step 1) Download Os/2 drivers from IOMEGA's web page. Step 2)
 DE> Follow their direcions, EXACTLY (web page directions. Those in the
 DE> driver archive are HORRID) Step 3) Enjoy the Zip

 DD> Will do. Thanks a bunch!


I just found out that the are no IOMEGA Atapi zip drivers. But IBM has
integrated ATAPI
devices into the newest ibm1s506.add driver. You can get from the online
device driver pack. Just go to the device driver pak on your CD, then hit the
link for the online version and you're there. Then you can search for IOMEGA
and ZIP and you'll find the driver. Thats how I did it.
... Baroque (n.): When you are out of Monet.

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  22-Sep-99 02:33:05
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 13:53:26
Subj: serial hassles

Ok, I've sort of traced my problem to my modem setup. On a system
running DOS, I can load a terminal program, dial a number, and the
modem connects, and I get the login messages.

On the OS2 box, with the *same* modem, and the same init strings (and
the OS/2 version of the same *dumb* terminal program)I get the connect
message from the modem, then nothing.

I assume it's a problem with SIO.

What do I need to do? I want the port locked at 115200, 8n1. hardware
handshaking.





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From: Chris Martin                                      13-Sep-99 20:23:19
  To: Don Guy                                           22-Sep-99 17:54:18
Subj: Logitech TrackMan Marble

Once upon a time, out on MARS.

While reading the mail, wispering this:

DG>    A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a coded message from Tobias
DG> Ernst to Don Guy was intercepted...

 TE> They work as a standard PS/2 mouse, or if you connect them to the
 TE> serial port using the adapter that is supplied, as a standard serial
 TE> mouse.

DG> Yours is response number three in the affirmative.  I think I'm going
shopp
ing
DG> next week...  :-)

Cool.. My PC Accessories (generic) trackball works just fine,
under OS/2 Warp3 from base to fp32.

Chris Martin, [e-mail]

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From: Chris Martin                                      13-Sep-99 20:29:19
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 17:54:18
Subj: 4x4 drives

Once upon a time, out on MARS.

While reading the mail, wispering this:

RJ> I have a couple of NEC 4x4 cdrom changers here,  and was wondering how
they

RJ> would show up under Warp Connect -- would they be seen as eight separate
dr
ive
RJ> letters,  or what?  Do I need any special drivers installed in order to be
RJ> able to use them?

Are they SCSI, or IDE? If Scsi, use the  /ET  switch with the
SCSI driver command line in the Config.sys file. Not sure how to
handle the  IDE version, though I imagine that the newer IDE
driver will handle it fine. Should show 'em as seperate drives,
though I understand there are some utilities for certain
(non-Adaptec) scsi controllers  that run them as folders under
one drive letter.

RJ> I've currently got them installed in the Linux box here,  but it's
starting
 to
RJ> look like it's going to be a real hassle to be able to use more than one
di
sc
RJ> per drive,  which sorta misses the whole point.

See above..

Chris Martin, [e-mail]

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 22:42:05
  To: Chris Martin                                      23-Sep-99 08:43:18
Subj: 4x4 drives

Chris Martin wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 CM> Are they SCSI, or IDE?

They're IDE...

 CM> If Scsi, use the  /ET  switch with the SCSI driver command line
 CM> in the Config.sys file. Not sure how to handle the IDE version,
 CM> though I imagine that the newer IDE driver will handle it fine.
 CM> Should show 'em as seperate drives, though I understand there
 CM> are some utilities for certain (non-Adaptec) scsi controllers
 CM> that run them as folders under one drive letter.

That's the thing,  I'd like to see them show up as separate drives.  Right now
it looks like I've got support for _two_ discs rather than eight!

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From: Charlie Smith                                     22-Sep-99 20:16:07
  To: Mike Ruskai                                       23-Sep-99 08:43:18
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

Hi Mike,

I had one other question regarding all the files from the IDEDASD
upgrade archive.

The file show below between the brackets already exist on my Warp
Connect configuration and I can figure out what each one is
responsible for.

However, the unmarked files are the mystery to me.  I can make a very
good guess about ibmatapi.flt, but have no clue about the other ones.

Do you think it would be okay to just copy the whole group to
\os2\boot?  I'm thinking (not again!) that if I had to go back for
some reason that the old version wouldn't make any references to these
additional files as long as I removed references in CONFIG.SYS if any
were made.

I know I asked for an opinion and will remember that in reading the
relpy.

  >  ibm1s506.add  <
     ibm1s506.sym
     ibmatapi.flt
  >  ibmidecd.flt  <
     idedasd.ddp
  >  os2cdrom.dmd  <
  >  os2dasd.dmd   <

Thanks for you time.

Charlie Smith


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From: John Thompson                                     22-Sep-99 17:57:00
  To: Steve McCrystal                                   23-Sep-99 08:43:18
Subj: Sio

In a message to Gene Tucker, Steve McCrystal wrote re: Sio

SM> I rarely use EPM, especially on CONFIG.SYS, since on a
SM> number of occasions early on *IT* did some very wierd things to the file!
It's
SM> been a while, but as I recall it, on its' own, concatenated several lines
into
SM> a single line that (obviously) really fouled things up. Now I use Tedit to
work
SM> on CONFIG.

Older versions of EPM (ie, v5 and earlier) had a line-length
limit that caused problems with certain long lines in CONFIG.SYS;
usually the PATH or LIBPATH lines.  This is no longer the case
with EPM v6.


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From: Holger Granholm                                   22-Sep-99 21:25:00
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    23-Sep-99 16:33:18
Subj: Matrox drivers?

In a message dated 09-19-99, Bas Heijermans said to Holger Granholm:

Hello Bas,

 HG> Tell me more!  What's your problem?  Running NS 2.02 here
 HG> without any apparent problems.

BH>I have most of all FTP-aborts and NS-crashes.

First of all, for FTP from normal ftp servers I use FTPBrowser and it
works very well. Whenever I want a file from a www server I of course
use NS and have no difficulties nor any crashes.

I don't think your difficulties FTPing files with NS can be blamed on
which video controller you are using.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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From: Louis Aubree                                      20-Sep-99 18:59:00
  To: Mike Ruskai                                       24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Pci(?) Modem and os/2 war

 @SUBJECT:PCI(?) modem and OS/2 Warp                                  N
Hi Mike!

On 1999-09-10, you jumped on my reply to Jonathan de Boyne Pollard :

 JP>>> I wasn't really talking about cable modems, because
 JP>>> they aren't actually modems.

 LA>> I think they are. A phone line is not part of the general
 LA>> definition of a modem. Some modems are connected to radio
 LA>> transceivers, for ex.

MR> A cable "modem" isn't a modulator/demodulator at all.
MR> It's simply a network bridge, connecting some coax network
MR> to ethernet (the part you plug into your PC).

A TV cable network (coax cable version) carries radio frequencies
ie frequencies in VHF and UHF between 50 and 900 MHz approx.
An Internet service through coax TV cable has to use some TV channel
and the "bridge" has to modulate some radio (high) frequency with
some "video" signal, not a "video" signal in fact, but an ethernet
signal, including many octaves of (somewhat low) frequencies, in what
this signal is somewhat like a video signal.

Of course, the (modulated) carrier on the cable is several hundreds
of megahertz high, while the (modulated) carrier on a phone line is
about 2000 hertz only.

Why ethernet adapters?
1) large bandwith
2) channel shared between all users in the same cable area
3) ready made and available

So, the cable modem is also a bridge between (short) ethernet lines,
as you see it, but that's a view from a higher layer in the ISO
model. The cable modem works at the physical layer, and acts
unnoticed to higher levels.

This does mean that, in the same cable area, each Internet user
receives on his ethernet card all the data his neighbours request.
He could eavesdrop everything they are downloading from Internet
servers (with a modified ethernet card).

There's a difference with a genuine ethernet network: the way upwards
has to be isolated on a different (TV) channel. The upward way is a
challenge for most cable Internet providers, because a basic TV cable
is designed only to download, and only to download TV signals, and
only download all the same TV signals to every suscriber in the area.

The cable ISPs have to add filters and HF upward amplifiers, and
carefully adjust gains so they can listen equally well to every
suscriber, and when a new bunch of suscribers is added, they have to
balance the whole thing again! Of course, newer cable systems can be
better designed, but this is at a price, eg with optic fiber.

Back on topic, if possible...
Cable ISPs use to install the ethernet card in the PCs of their
suscribers. Then, ask them for an OS/2 driver :-(

   L.A.
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From: Louis Aubree                                      20-Sep-99 20:27:00
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Pci(?) Modem and os/2 war

LE> Sorry, but so-called "cable modems" are *not* modems. They are
LE> digital, not analog. They've got more in common with a LAN card
LE> or an ISDN adapter than with a phone or radio modem.

Look at my reply to Mike Ruskai.
Yes, there is a LAN card (ethernet) in the PC. This is not part of
the cable modem, although usually provided and installed by the cable
ISP. The modem has to deal with the physical layer.

   L.A.
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From: Louis Aubree                                      20-Sep-99 20:36:00
  To: Kenneth Abrams                                    24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Pci(?) Modem and os/2 war

 @SUBJECT:PCI(?) modem and OS/2 Warp                                  N
Hello Kenneth!

About "cable modems", look at my reply to Mike Ruskai.
I edit excerpts to the shortest:

 JP>>> I wasn't really talking about cable modems, because
 JP>>> they aren't actually modems.

 LA>> I think they are. A phone line is not part of the general
 LA>> definition of a modem.

KA> Actually, it is. Traditionally, a modem is a
KA> modulator-demodulator supporting the transition to/from a digital
KA> data stream (usually, but not always, within a computer) and the
KA> analog data stream carried on standard phone lines.

Almost. Well, you wrote "traditionally". I would say this is the most
common and well known form. I would add that this transition is
performed by _modulating_ a carrier frequency compatible with a
physical media (a standard phone line, for example). This is the same
process as voice/music modulating a broadcasting radio carrier: they
use amplitude _modulation_ or frequency _modulation_, although the
meaningful signal is not a digital stream, but an audio stream. Then,
a modem performs also the receiving task with the "demodulator" part.


KA> Looking at a handy Webster's Dictionary, we find:

KA> "a device that converts data to a form that can be transmitted,
KA> as by telephone, to data-processing equipment where a similar
KA> device reconverts it."

Read it carefully: "as by telephone" (just an example).

KA> A cable modem, on the other hand, is really more of a router than
KA> a modem, routing network packets that are piggybacking on the TV
KA> cable line into the network card installed in the connected
KA> computer.

I don't think "router" is the right word. Mike Ruskai sugested
"bridge", and that's closer to the physical layer, I think. And even,
the cable modem doesn't select the packets incoming on either side:
it performs on all of them. On the receiving way, the packets are
selected by the ethernet card.

I would say a conventional telephone modem is a (physical) bridge
between serial lines.

 LA>> Some modems are connected to radio transceivers, for ex.

KA> Where they are still converting between digital and analog data
KA> streams. If I'm not mistaken (having never actually *seen* such a
KA> setup), that radio link merely acts as a portion of the phone
KA> connection between sites.

I agree, there's not much difference between a radio modem and a
telephone modem. The telephone line is replaced by a radio
transceiver and airwaves: no telephone line at all.

  <snip>

 LA>> Of course, cable modems are just for Internet access (unless the

KA> Yep, they are really closer to a direct network connection than a
KA> dialup connection.

      OK. (Look at my other replies).

KA> And they aren't modems in the traditional sense. I think the name
KA> became attached simply because it's a box between the computer
KA> and a wall jack and that's traditionally been the place for a
KA> modem (in homes, anyway).

Maybe. That's the outside of the devices, so this is the common
explanation. But I said above the principle :

 _modulating_ a carrier frequency compatible with a physical media

    L.A.
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From: Louis Aubree                                      20-Sep-99 21:53:00
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Floppy B: problem

Hello Leonard,

We're speaking about dust and lint being sucked in 5.25" drives
through the floppy slot.

LA>> I just cut a cardboard cover to close the floppy slot and fixed
LA>> it with adhesive tape. It could be even simple : adhesive tape
LA>> directly fitted to close the slot when not needed.
LA>> This slot should not be an air intake when unused.

LE> The problem is that most cases are designed to use *negative*
LE> pressure for ventilation. That is, the fan sucks air *out* of the
LE> case, turning every opening into a dust magnet.

This is becoming uncommon nowadays, with standard ATX cases.

LE> I've got an old 286 system that uses *positive* pressure
LE> ventilation. The fan blows air *into* the case, and has a
LE> removable *washable* filter over the fan.

That reminds me of an industrial PC from Analog Devices, with a dust
filter just behind front face grid, designed to stand dusty mills. It
had a special cover in front of floppy drives. And so on (I
remember also the iron strap to prevent cards from unsitting).

LE> You might want to try rigging your case that way. All you need is
LE> a filter to go over the fan, and (usually) the ability to open
LE> the PS. Most fans are just plugged into the PS board and it's
LE> usually not that hard to flip the plug around.

Yes, but no. I won't try to fix something unbroken and performing
well, except sucking some dust inside, until I find dust hampering
something else with no other simple cure.

I opened the power supply once and found lint there and I carefully
removed it. (Nothing broken in the PS, it was the mains cable).

   L.A.
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From: Louis Aubree                                      21-Sep-99 19:41:00
  To: Rich Wonneberger                                  24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Pci(?) Modem and os/2 war

Hello Rich,

I agree with you about a normal V.90 modem. 44 kbps for downloading
seems not uncommonly low. But uploading at 2.8 kB/s seems somewhat
low, rather with a fall back to 28800 bps (V34), not at 33600 bps
(V34bis). There is also a fallback step at 31200, maybe others?

So, you name 'server modem' a modem for ISPs, to send at V90 speed.
They probably have such modems, not advertised for other markets.
Then, there's also the 3Com I-Modem. Not widely available, nor
advertized, but AFAIK, it can be used to send at V90 speed. I think
my sysop have one. I could connect to his BBS in V90 mode... when I
have a V90 modem (not justified now).

RW> $600.00 (US).  About 3x the price of a Courier..

USR Courier still available? I see only "3Com Professional Message
Modem" now.

      L.A.
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From: Louis Aubree                                      22-Sep-99 23:36:00
  To: Andy Roberts                                      24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Modem Upgrade?

Hello Andy,

From your reply on Sept. 15th :

AR> This discussion would be better in a modem echo such as USR_MODEMS.

I don't read the USR_MODEMS echo. A _general_ modem or telecom echo
would be the best place. It happened in OS2HW, so let's try to end with
it shortly.

 LA>> Well, USR Courier owners were very happy with upgrades to higher
 LA>> speeds during the past years. But is there any way left for speed
 LA>> upgrade now ? (on plain old telephone service, of course, cause
 LA>> cable and ADSL modems are much different and no upgrade from POTS
 LA>> to these new devices.

AR> I've heard that same question asked many times over the years in
AR> respect to every speed from 50 baud up.  The answer is always yes
AR> there will be major improvements, eventually.  Since you used the
AR> word "now", the solution is probably limited to V.90 and making
AR> sure your line condition is peak.

The theoretical maximal speed of V90 is 56 kbps. That's quite close
to the 64 kbps used in the public phone switches. The next step
through these switches is ISDN. (No simple upgrade, I think). The
other step using the phone subscriber loop (without the existing public
switches) is ADSL. As ADSL use higher frequencies on the subscriber
loop, and needs large bandwidth on the computer side, I don't see it
as a way to improve any current V90 modem. Anyway, ADSL seems to be a
break with former modem technologies.

AR> There is another option that has nothing to do with POTS nor ADSL
AR> nor Cable. The new service uses the A/C Mains wiring or I should
AR> say the field around the powered wiring as the transmission medium.
AR> Test devices were capable of better than T1 bandwidth.  The remote
AR> end device seemed to be a combination of isolator/radio/dem (not
AR> modem) since it was just a de-modulator or receiver not transmitter.
AR> Comparisons were made to the Cable as far as application.

I read that tests are under way somewhere in G.B. Bypasses are needed
around every transformer on the way, because they are rather like
screens to the high frequencies. I would say that the signals are in
the ADSL class, but the medium (A/C mains) is shared with all the
neigbouring, just like for TV Cable.

I was not aware it was just for downloading. So, a standard phone
modem is still needed.

A/C mains lines are not prone to contain radio frequencies. So, the
signals will be radiated and will interfere with the radio services
in the LF/MF bands, in AM broadcasting, for example, but also with
air beacons. Quite a few years ago, our national mains company used
radio frequencies for communications over its power lines in
mountain areas. It had to change all its frequencies to be compatible
with the air radio beacons. No one admitted this had something
related with an unexplained airplane crash (when airplanes used
mainly the LF/MF beacons to find their way to the smaller airports).


AR> Another alternative that has already been established in several
AR> cities is the wireless modem, similar to Cellular Telephone.
AR> Last I checked it was almost cost prohibitive as far as end user
AR> pricing.  <....snip...>

The radio subscriber loop is a strong candidate here for alternative
new telephone operators. Small dish antennas and high GHz radio bands
are contemplated. I hope they'd think to variable data rate or shared
download way, something like that. Nothing available so far.

AR> IMO concerning POTS, ....snip.... The solution for the end users
AR> ....snip.... is to convert the voice to data and then convert it
AR> back at the far end.   <....bigger snip....> So IMO the solution
AR> for POTS is to change all the end user's phones to digital.

That is named ISDN... ISDN is the native mode of all our C.O.'s here,
designed to switch only 64 kbps data flows. ISDN subscriber get a box
with D/A and A/D at home rather than sharing one more or less close
to the C.O. Well, ISDN means also better services for workplaces.
ISDN monthly due is more expensive, and native ISDN equipments are
not cheap. (BTW, US Telco's seem to use many analog switches?)

Maybe this overview is enough. I've not so much more to say about all
of this, and it'd be rather more and more off topic.

   L.A.
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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    22-Sep-99 14:45:00
  To: Bas Heijermans                                    24-Sep-99 06:16:06
Subj: Sio

Hello Bas,

19 Sep 99 09:04, Bas Heijermans wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

BH> I use ISDN now, works far better than all analog stuff.

ISDN is here twice the monthly cost (because ISDN gives two separate lines).
I don't need two lines. If there was an ISDN variant with just one line and
equal monthly costs as one analog telephone line, I would choose that ISDN
variant with one line.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: [e-mail]

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       23-Sep-99 09:53:00
  To: CHARLIE SMITH                                     24-Sep-99 07:09:01
Subj: IDEDASD Upgrade

Some senseless babbling from Charlie Smith to Mike Ruskai
on 09-22-99  20:16 about IDEDASD Upgrade...

 CS> Hi Mike,

 CS> I had one other question regarding all the files from the IDEDASD
 CS> upgrade archive.

 CS> The file show below between the brackets already exist on my Warp
 CS> Connect configuration and I can figure out what each one is
 CS> responsible for.

 CS> However, the unmarked files are the mystery to me.  I can make a very
 CS> good guess about ibmatapi.flt, but have no clue about the other ones.

 CS> Do you think it would be okay to just copy the whole group to
 CS> \os2\boot?  I'm thinking (not again!) that if I had to go back for
 CS> some reason that the old version wouldn't make any references to these
 CS> additional files as long as I removed references in CONFIG.SYS if any
 CS> were made.

 CS> I know I asked for an opinion and will remember that in reading the
 CS> relpy.

 >  ibm1s506.add  <
 CS> ibm1s506.sym

This is a symbol file, which provides information about function offsets in
the executable (ibm1s506.add).  You needn't worry about it.  It's not
normally present.

 CS> ibmatapi.flt

This is for supporting ATAPI CD-ROM drives (aka IDE CD-ROM's).

 >  ibmidecd.flt  <

 CS> idedasd.ddp

Device Driver Profile.  It's just a file that the device driver
installation program uses to determine where files are supposed to go.  Nix
it.

 >  os2cdrom.dmd  <
 >  os2dasd.dmd   <

 CS> Thanks for you time.

No problem.

Mike Ruskai
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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  24-Sep-99 10:13:10
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  24-Sep-99 12:15:29
Subj: serial hassles

Hello Leonard!

22 Sep 99 01:33, Leonard Erickson wrote to All:
 LE> On the OS2 box, with the *same* modem, and the same init strings (and
 LE> the OS/2 version of the same *dumb* terminal program)I get the connect
 LE> message from the modem, then nothing.
 LE> I assume it's a problem with SIO.
    Did your programm set proper port speed? Which modem? USR?

Bye!
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