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From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com                         17-Dec-99 23:41:23
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:58:50, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Thanks for responding, Clive.  But I'm already at
> this:
>
> [F:\]java -fullversion
> JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.8 IBM build
> o118-19991026 (JIT enabled: javax V3.
> 5-IBMJDK1.1-19991026)"
>

The one he's talking about gets you:

D:\mywork\java -fullversion
JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19991204 (JIT enabled: javax
V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-19991204)"


=Dwight=
X1=L, X2=L & the domain is phonetic

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From: [e-mail]                             17-Dec-99 21:22:17
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: "David McKenna" <[e-mail]>

On 17 Dec 1999 14:39:25 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

>Hi,
>As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
problems.
>AS per Dave's suggestion I sent in a fault report  and got back what looks
like a standard
>canned reply, see below.
>For all those that have had this problem could you email me with the
processor you are using,
>thanks....Brian
>
>
>
>Technicians response:
>******************************************************************************
*****
> Thank you for choosing to report a suspected defect in our product.
>
> The appropriate product specialists have reviewed this defect report
> and have determined this to not be a known defect in our product or
> documentation.
>
> Work may not continue under this defect report.  However we will be
> happy to continue to work with you to resolve the problem under one
> of our SupportLine services.
>
> Please call the 1-800-237-5511 to discuss a variety of fee based
> services.
>******************************************************************************
*******
>
>Thank you,
>Solutions Management Center
>T/L 252-6155 or 800-237-5511 options 6,1,1
>Fax [phone]
>
>
    Thanks, Brian, for giving it a shot - the only hope is if enough people
do it, someone at IBM may think 'maybe there really *is* something wrong' one
day.

   In the meantime I use a device driver which comes with the Graham
Utilities called 'Cleanup.sys' which allows you to put a line in CONFIG.SYS
to remove any file you list on the DEVICE= line; in this case CHKDSK.LOG. I
don't remove FOUNDx directories since there may actually be something there I
want.

   The real crime here is that I am sure there have been OS/2 users who gave
up on it because of this ridiculous bug; it took me about a month to figure
it out myself.

Here is my system:

Intel Pentium III, 500MHz, 256MB SDRAM
Adaptec 7890 SCSI U2W
Matrox G200 AGP 16MB
3COM TX905C NIC
Crystal 4614 based PCI sound
Plextor 40x SCSI CDROM2
Yamaha CDR102
2 - Quantum 9GB U2W drives
Seagate STT8000 SCSI tape drive
US Robotics 56K voice modem ISA

   I have had other computers with the same problem. The one factor that all
of them had in common was wide SCSI controllers by Adaptec. There is a
reported problem with the Adaptec drivers (AIC7870 and AIC78U2) and chkdsk in
that if a drive is dirty, and is formatted HPFS, and is set to autocheck, the
chkdsk on boot runs *very* slowly (for me about 15 min. on 4GB). If you boot
to diskettes (or any other 'clean' partition) and run chkdsk from the command
line for the dirty drive it takes far less time (about 90 seconds on my same
4GB partition). The problem only shows up on a boot. This makes me suspicious
that our current chkdsk problem may be related.

   It would be interesting if the Adaptec drivers could be implicated by
others...

Dave McKenna



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From: [e-mail]                               18-Dec-99 17:37:01
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: voicetype stopped working

From: Aaron Lawrence <[e-mail]>

Peter Wadsack wrote:
> OS2OM30.DLL 0001:000023f8
> So, what is <OS2OM30.DLL> anyway?  What to do?
Hi Peter,

Just a note. Os2OM30.dll is just a general runtime DLL from IBM Visual
Age C++ compiler AFAIK.

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Dec-99 21:06:03
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: NS2.02

From: Frank <[e-mail]>

What was the trick to make these version checkers understand you have
some flavor of NS-3.
If I remenber, it's added into the options box in Properties.

Thanx

--
*        Frank Maskus  Portland, Oregon           *
*   Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/   *
*                                                 *
*        An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers        *

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 00:25:00
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: Warp Server for e-business weirdness

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <38583a63$0$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Bryan Price) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, "Scott E.
Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>|On 15 Dec 1999 20:37:05 GMT, Bryan L. Price wrote:
>|
>|>Anybody else seeing this happen, or able to offer any words of wisdom?
>|I think this is related to a kernel bug that's already fixed. i put out some
>|fix kernels a while ago; I don't know if anyone saved them.
>
>Scott,
>
>I saved the article, (I just finished reading it again).
>
>Unfortunately, I didn't grab the two files like I had intended. :(
>
>At least now that it seems to be a known problem, maybe I can ride herd on
>these cats till a real FP1 for WSEB is out.  Any indication when? :)
>
>Unless somebody has the fixes that Scott posted, and they want to e-mail them
>to me?  Preferred address to send me the files would be
>[e-mail]-NOSPAM (Remove the -NOSPAM please)  No mailbox
>limitations on size on that address.  TIA!
>

What's the file names you're looking for? I probably have them somewhere...
:')

--

/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\

|                From the Warp Server for eBusiness desktop of:
|
|                               Jerome D. McBride
|
|                              [e-mail]
|
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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 00:14:01
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <83e19n$5jm$[e-mail]>,
Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> wrote:

--- snip ---

>I NEVER had TCP/IP 4.1.  I somehow managed not to hear about the free
>giveaway until after it was withdrawn.
>

--- snip ---

Well... I was one of the lucky ones and I've been very pleased with the gift.
Having applied it, uhh... many times, to Warp 3.0 and Warp 3.0 connect, I can
safely say... I know how you feel...

--- snip ---

>Again, no.  I went from 4.02something at WR08423
>directly to 4.2 at WR08610 & then added WR08620. (By
>the way, WR08610 --> IS <-- TCP/IP 4.2.  That's also
>in the READMEs.)  This proves it can be done.  I wish
>somebody else would just post to say, "Me too."  I
>can't credit the notion that I am the only person on
>the planet who's done it successfully.  On 2 machines
>with radically different hardware, not the least
>difference being one is dial-up & the other is on a
>LAN.  Come on, folks, somebody, please speak up.....
>

Having applied the 4.1 stack, uhh... many times, to Warp 3.0 and Warp 3.0
connect, I can safely say... I know how you feel...

Alot of times, the newer functionality and usability of the later versions of
Warp 4.0 and 4.5 are directly applicable to 3.0. No "if's", "ands" or
"buts"...
it does work.

--

*******************************************************************************

*                                  OS/2 ????
*
*                              YOU AREN'T ALONE!
*
*               http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~meile/los2cl.html
*
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From: [e-mail]                           18-Dec-99 05:34:27
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: NS2.02

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 05:06:06, Frank <[e-mail]> wrote:

> What was the trick to make these version checkers understand you have
> some flavor of NS-3.
> If I remenber, it's added into the options box in Properties.
>

I'm not entirely sure but I think is the opetion "-3"
in the parameters box in the program object properties.
Thats's without the quotes

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                                 18-Dec-99 17:00:09
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "David McKenna"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On 17 Dec 1999 14:39:25 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
problems.
>>AS per Dave's suggestion I sent in a fault report  and got back what looks
like a standard
>>canned reply, see below.
>>
>>Technicians response:
>>*****************************************************************************
******
>> Thank you for choosing to report a suspected defect in our product.
>>
>> The appropriate product specialists have reviewed this defect report
>> and have determined this to not be a known defect in our product or
>> documentation.
>>
>> Work may not continue under this defect report.  However we will be
>> happy to continue to work with you to resolve the problem under one
>> of our SupportLine services.
>>Thank you,
>>Solutions Management Center
>>T/L 252-6155 or 800-237-5511 options 6,1,1
>>Fax [phone]
>>
>>
>    Thanks, Brian, for giving it a shot - the only hope is if enough people
>do it, someone at IBM may think 'maybe there really *is* something wrong' one
>day.
>
>   In the meantime I use a device driver which comes with the Graham
>Utilities called 'Cleanup.sys' which allows you to put a line in CONFIG.SYS
>to remove any file you list on the DEVICE= line; in this case CHKDSK.LOG. I
>don't remove FOUNDx directories since there may actually be something there I
>want.
>
>   The real crime here is that I am sure there have been OS/2 users who gave
>up on it because of this ridiculous bug; it took me about a month to figure
>it out myself.
>
Dave,
No problem, I gave it another shot sending a more cryptic note about how
I could not ring the USA number. They simply responded with how to get
my local number.

Yes,if you get this problem it is very frustrating. I had to give up using
Object Navigator for about a month until I found the solution.

Speaking of solutions, I have received about 5 workarounds now and the
amazing thing is they are all different. Inventive lot are we  not!
I do have the Graham Utilities so I will test yours out.

My system is completely different to yours. The only scsi I have is the
small internal one that drives a ZIP100.

The only thing I think we can do from here is to post a note about once month.
I have got some mail from people who have missed the start of this discussion.

I think this highlights how valuable this forum is.

Thanks............Brian


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From: [e-mail]                               17-Dec-99 22:30:09
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: NS2.02

From: Frank <[e-mail]>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 05:06:06, Frank <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > What was the trick to make these version checkers understand you have
> > some flavor of NS-3.
> > If I remenber, it's added into the options box in Properties.
> >
>
> I'm not entirely sure but I think is the option "-3"
> in the parameters box in the program object properties.
> Thats's without the quotes
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley

Yupper!!! TWA airlines wouldn't let me online until I added that.
Works normal now....

Thanks much, Frank.

PS: I still hate the bloatware Communicator.

--
*        Frank Maskus  Portland, Oregon           *
*   Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/   *
*                                                 *
*        An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers        *

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 01:51:21
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 05:20:09
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:35:08, mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:

> As I said in another post, I am going to try out 610/620 on a machine I
don't
> have to trust with my paycheck, based on Ivan's experience, but I have seen
> enough of Wild Willy to believe he no speak with forked tongue.  If it
works,
> I'll likely migrate to it on all 8 boxes.

I had one problem after I applied the 8620 fix over 8610 - and it is a
fix, where wr08610_conv is a full refresh.  In this one case, I got
really flakey bootups unless I used the F2 to display the load
progress.  Doing a little playing I found that there was some kind of
race condition in the startup sequence.  It was probably the race they
put the semaphore file in to stop conflicts (between the MPTS and
TCP/IP initialization).  Anyway, I had problems with a couple of
machines only but the problem was repeatable in each case.  There are
also a couple of files you want to grab for the 8610 version.
NSLOOKUP.EXE and AFNB.SYS, as well as SLIP.EXE were the files, IIRC,
and you can find these on the ps ftp site.  I don't remember if they
are on the 8620 disks or not, but these will blow up on some netstat
commands, using nslookup, and slip.exe won't work right off with 8610.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                    18-Dec-99 10:31:02
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 10:01:24
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > So.  Before I send an E-mail to the address in
the
> > README -- which for some reason is at Sun, not
IBM --
> > does anyone here know what to do with
javaswng.zip to
> > get Swing installed?
>
>     You can probably save yourself some time and
hassle by downloading the
> following files from Software Choice (one or both,
depending on your
> needs):
>
>     javainsr.exe    - Swing Runtime
>     javainst.exe    - Swing Toolkit
>
>     The big ZPI file you downloaded contains all
of the files in these two
> arcihves, however it is *not* installable via any
automated means.  It's
> more intended or those who need to package Swing
for OS/2 with their
> products, or who otherwise have special
installation needs.
>
>     The two files mentioned above have everything
you need to install them
> via Feature Installer.
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad
BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:
2G43D@Torolabs

Oh BLESS YOU, Brad!!!  An explanation that makes
sense.  The other guys seemed to lose sight of the
fact that I already HAVE Java.  I want to ADD Swing.
Installing the new Java updates won't add Swing to my
system.  They are unrelated activities.

Although I will also get the Java updates.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             18-Dec-99 12:45:18
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 10:01:25
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:09:32, Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > Folks, the WR08610/WR08620 READMEs say in them that
> > they apply to WARP 4 Client.  Non-server,
> > non-Ebusiness, non-Workspace-On-Demand, uniprocessor
> > client.  I know Ivan said he had trouble with them.
>
> At the risk of repeating myself, from 8620 read.me:
>
>
>  IBM MPTS LAN Adapter and Protocol Support FixPak WRx8620
>                       (IBM PTF WR08620)
>
> snipped some stuff
>
>   Note:    1 - WRx8620 should not be installed on a non-SMP Warp Server
> without
>                installing TCP/IP v4.1 prior to it.
>
> ==>            There have been various
> ==>            problems reported when using WRx8610 (or above) without
> TCP/IP
> ==>            v4.1.
>
>            This FixPak also supports Warp Server SMP machines with
>                WRx8610 applied.

I think you are overlooking the little word 'Server'.
The readme is telling you not to install it on a non-SMP Warp SERVER.

I will admit that I am still at 4.02w, because I was not sure from all the
discussions whether it is safe for my system or not.

I believe Willy when he says that it works for him, but I have a different
setup and have heard that it does not work with my dialler (ISDNpm).

One day I will do fresh install and try it out, but 'til then I will stay with
wr8423+wr8424.

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                             18-Dec-99 12:45:17
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 10:01:25
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:06:26, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:


> So.  Before I send an E-mail to the address in the
> README -- which for some reason is at Sun, not IBM --
> does anyone here know what to do with javaswng.zip to
> get Swing installed?
>
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!

Willy,
Since nobody seems to be answering your question, let me tell
you what I did. As you rightly say, the readmes tell you to run
install, but the zip you downloaded does not contain one.

So, you have to do it all by hand.
1. unzip javaswng, ensuring that the directory structure is retained
   This will give you a directory Swing-1.1ibm with a tree beneath it
2. As you say there are no instructions, so I guessed and copied the whole
   tree to live under c:\Java11\. I could, with hindsight of unzipped it there
   in the first place, but I didn't know what it was going to do.
3. As stated in the README, I added the path to swingall.jar to CLASSPATH
   ie, ......;c:\JAVA11\Swing-1.1ibm\swingall.jar
4. Set SWING_HOME=c:\java11\swing-1.1ibm.
5. Rebooted and that was that.
6. Tried a few examples just to ensure that they worked.

Again with hindsight, you could probably put the whole tree wherever you
want, just make sure you set SWING_HOME and CLASSPATH accordingly.

HTH,
--
Dave

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Dec-99 17:53:15
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 16:45:19
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:28:24, [e-mail] (Mooo) wrote:

> Quite honestly, if you don't care much about "keeping up with the
> Jones's" then the TCPIP V4 product with MPTS stack refresh 8424 is
> very stable and very fast too.
>

True, BUT, UN_980 did something to my system that seems to make
NETSCAPE 4.61 downloads FAR more reliable. I don't know what got
updated, but it does work far better, for me. YMMV.

Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                     18-Dec-99 08:52:08
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 16:45:19
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Mikus Grinbergs)

This really bugs me - WHY is so much confusion being spread around ?

Here is my understanding.  To all intents and purposes, there are
THREE separate TCP/IP implementations available for OS/2 Warp 4 :


- TCP/IP Version 4.0 - this came with Warp 4 client
                       inetver gives number starting with 4

    Applicable Upgrades:  WR08423, WR08424, LATEST40

    Upgrade UN00980 appears to be a Y2K refresh of some TCP/IP
    applications.  The documentation indicates it is NOT aimed
    at TCP/IP versions above 4.0 !!


- TCP/IP Version 4.1 - this came with the Warp 4 Server package
                     - this can be purchased from Software Choice
                       inetver gives number involving 5

    Applicable Upgrades:  WR08610, UN01001

    Upgrade WR08620 will bring 4.1 up to (more or less) 4.2,
    with the inetver number being changed to involve 6


- TCP/IP Version 4.2 - a variant of this came with Warp 4.5 (WSeB)
                       inetver gives number involving 6

    There have been some upgrades (e.g. WR08650), but those have
    mostly been for specific problems (typically outside the scope
    of the majority of the people on this list).


mikus

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 08:39:16
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> >   Note:    1 - WRx8620 should not be installed on a non-SMP Warp Server
> > without
> >                installing TCP/IP v4.1 prior to it.
> >
> > ==>            There have been various
> > ==>            problems reported when using WRx8610 (or above) without
> > TCP/IP
> > ==>            v4.1.
> >
> >              This FixPak also supports Warp Server SMP machines with
> >                WRx8610 applied.
>
> I think you are overlooking the little word 'Server'.
> The readme is telling you not to install it on a non-SMP Warp SERVER.

Thanks, Dave.  On re-reading you might be right.

I say might, because I had the problem  with the "non-" part.  I
interpretted it at non-SMP AND non-Server (yes it didn't say that).

That's left over from years ago programming with a language that, as
soon as a NOT got into a logic string, everything after that was NOT-ed.

Come to think of it that would make it non-Warp, too :-)


>
> I will admit that I am still at 4.02w, because I was not sure from all the
> discussions whether it is safe for my system or not.
>
> I believe Willy when he says that it works for him, but I have a different
> setup and have heard that it does not work with my dialler (ISDNpm).
>
> One day I will do fresh install and try it out, but 'til then I will stay
with
> wr8423+wr8424.

That makes two of us!

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                                17-Dec-99 23:57:05
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

> Drill down to /ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08610_conv & grab
> WR08610 & apply it.  Requires creating diskettes & executing MPTS.EXE
> off the first of them.

No. You can simply install it from anywhere that can be accessed with a
drive letter.

> Then switch directories to /ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08620 &
> grab WR08620.  Requires creating diskettes & executing Fix Tool 1.41
> (the latest).

No again. Like any FixPak that requires the Fixtool/CSF for installation,
WR08620 can be installed from anywhere, see Fixtool documentation.

> Following that, THERE ARE NO STACK UPDATES.

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/wr08620t.zip
It fixes the "Denial of Service" attack and some routing problems. (But
INETVER shows version numbers of the 4.2(0) stack, only cosmetic.)

> This will bring you up to the current TCP/IP 4.2 stack.

4.21 to be exact.

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From: [e-mail]                                17-Dec-99 23:54:04
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

> Not knowing any better, I downloaded the 12Meg file
> javaswng.zip from service.boulder.ibm.com.  That
> unzips to 40Meg, from which you can find a README.
> The README says there's an INSTALL.EXE in the
> package.  I sure don't see it.

It requires JRE 1.1.8 as prerequisite and for installation. Extract the
archive into the 1.1.8 installation directory and install from there.

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 00:06:10
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> I can only warn you that _some_ (well, enough) people had severe problems
> with WR08610/8620.

I put WR08610 on top of IC16063 plus latest stack archive without any
problem. Now it runs on top of MPTS 5.3 (TCP/IP 4.1 package). WR08620
broke resolving of hostnames, so I got back to 8610.

> In my experience, WR08610/8620 was a rush alpha release, buggy and with
> broken install.

There was plenty of time between TCP/IP 4.1/MPTS 5.3/WR08600 and 8610. There
is one (!) fix for it (SLIP.EXE, included in 8620).

> On the other side, TCP/IP 4.21 (WSeb level) is pretty stable, at least
> with a couple of late breaking fixes applied on top of it. I hope IBM
> will update freely available TCP/IP stack to 4.21 level soon.

IBM already has. Take a look at your TCP/IP 4.21. SYSLEVEL output will
show a CSD level of ... WR08620. Any MPTS can be upgraded to TCP/IP
stack 4.2(0) by applying WR08610 and to 4.21 by WR08620 (which is not for
WSeB and its Client Connect Pak!). You can verify this by running
bldlevel.exe against drivers, executables, DLLs.

> Until then, I cannot recommend migrating your production system to above
> TCP/IP 4.01w (which is in WR08424).

Any upgrade so close to Y2K isn't advisable.

   /Olli/
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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 00:31:27
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

> I note the pointer to some recent UN_980 app updates that one poster
> mentioned earlier.  According to the README for that package, you can
> apply those updates on top of WR08610 but you need to apply WR08620
> AFTER.  That sounds like there's some backleveling going on in UN_980.
> Well, since I already have WR08620 applied, and it came out about FIVE
> MONTHS!!! before this UN_980 package, I think it's UNCONSCIONABLE that
> there is this kind of collision.

UN_0980 updates both TCP/IP 3.1 *and* 4.0 *services*.
It requires a 4.0 *stack* at 4.02e level (MPTS FixPak WR*8421).
So far no collisions.
If you install WR08610 after UN_0980, you'll have to reapply UN_0980.
If you want to install WR08620, you'll have to do it *after* UN_0980,
but it's *not* required to use UN_0980.

IMHO UN_0980 had a longer testing period (it's multilingual as well), so
WR08620 startet later than UN_0980, but was finished and released earlier.

Okay, for everyone who wants to know the collisions, the following files
have newer dates in UN_0980 (in comparison to WR08610):

MIB_2.EXE     (newer than WR08620 as well, but much smaller (non-SMP?))
PPP.EXE       (WR08620 has more current file)
PPPKILL.EXE   (WR08620 has more current file)
PPPTERM.EXE   (WR08620 has more current file)
ROUTED.EXE    (WR08620 has more current file)
ROUTED.ICO
SLATTACH.EXE
SLCFG.EXE
SLIP.EXE      (WR08620 has more current file)
SLIPHOLD.EXE
SLIPKILL.EXE
SLIPMSG.EXE   (newer than WR08620 as well, but much smaller (non-SMP?))
SLIPTERM.EXE
SLIPUP.CMD
SLIPWAIT.EXE
TRACERTE.EXE
VDEBUG.EXE
VDOSCTL.EXE
VDOSTCP.VDD   (WR08620 has more current file)
SLIPREXX.DLL

The following file is included in UN_0980, but not in WR08610:
NSLOOKUP.EXE  (newer than WR08620 as well, but much smaller (non-SMP?))

   /Olli/
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From: [e-mail]                                18-Dec-99 00:17:19
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 Doug Bissett wrote:

> There is a new one. Look at:

> http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

> near the bottom is a link to UN_980, which is the latest TCP/IP
> update. (that page has good links to most of the updates for OS/2). be
> sure to READ the docs...

That update contains the services *only*, not the stack (included in MPTS)!

   /Olli/
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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 06:31:06
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <83d1v0$eso$[e-mail]>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> and a number of others wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

Once again, blessings upon you, Brad Barclay.  And a
"thanks anyway" to Dave Parsons.  I did what I
describe below & wrote this offline before I saw your
post.

I opened up 2 OS/2 command windows, did command line
FTP to service.boulder.ibm.com in each one, fired up
a download in each, one for the 3 Java update files,
the other for the 2 Swing files (runtime & toolkit).
How?  I typed ahead the GET commands for the files,
then QUIT.  Then I went to bed.  According to the
messages I found in each window after getting back on
my system today, the downloads had completed
successfully in about 3 & 3.5 hours.  The fixes
totalled not quite 13Meg; Swing not quite 18Meg.  Got
that?  Two simultaneous huge unattended downloads
from the Boulder site completed without error.  They
have sure come a long way since Irv & I were talking
about it a few months ago.  Who needs a browser,
AWGET, even FTP-PM?  <:-))

Now to the process:

1. I installed Java 1.1.8 months ago.  But of course
I kept the installation files.  I executed
javainuf.exe & javaintk.exe to expand the original
1.1.8 installation package again.  Oops.  Something
didn't look right.  Then I remembered.  There's those
silly command line switches for preserving directory
structures.  I don't know the switches because I use
ZipControl.  Shameless plug:
http://www.rfpsoftware.com.  I am not affiliated with
RPF or Frank Fortson in any way.  I just love the
product.

2. So I erased all of that & redid it from
ZipControl.  Hey.  That gives me an idea.  For folks
who have been posting about failures to install Java
1.1.8, maybe this is the problem.  After you unzip
the installation files, you should have a directory
structure that looks vaguely like this:

Directory of E:\Java118Install

 7-31-99  1:18a      <DIR>      0 ----  .
 7-31-99  1:18a      <DIR>      0 ----  ..
 7-29-99  6:41a  1,165,812      0 a---  secma.zip
 7-29-99  6:41a 20,805,936    276 a---  javainuf.exe
 7-29-99  6:39a 15,273,452    276 a---  javaintk.exe
 7-29-99  6:38a 11,109,050    276 a---  javainst.exe
 7-29-99  6:38a  7,448,000    276 a---  javainsr.exe
 7-28-99 10:50a      <DIR>      0 ----  sv
 7-28-99 10:48a      <DIR>      0 ----  it
 7-28-99 10:46a      <DIR>      0 ----  fr
 7-28-99 10:44a      <DIR>      0 ----  es
 7-28-99 10:42a      <DIR>      0 ----  de
 7-28-99 10:40a      <DIR>      0 ----  br
 7-28-99 10:38a      <DIR>      0 ----  tw
 7-28-99 10:36a      <DIR>      0 ----  ko
 7-28-99 10:32a      <DIR>      0 ----  jp
 7-28-99 10:30a      <DIR>      0 ----  cn
 7-28-99 10:15a      <DIR>      0 ----  package
 7-28-99 10:15a      <DIR>      0 ----  en

Plus lots of files in this directory & all the
subdirectories.  And the jp subdirectory should
itself have a subdirectory named td.  If you don't
have this structure on your hard drive before you
start the INSTALL.EXE for Java, you will not succeed.

3. I unzipped (using ZipControl) the javainst.exe &
javainsr.exe files into this same directory tree.  I
have Java 1.1.8 already installed.  But the README
led me to believe that I needed the original install
package again in order to rerun the INSTALL utility
for Swing.  So I unzipped the base runtime & toolkit
installation packages again, then unzipped the 2
Swing packages, all 4 into this same directory tree.

5. The cumulative size of the 4 install .EXEs is just
over 52Meg.  After expanding them, they took up just
over 216Meg.  That's upwards of 268Meg & all I had
done was GOTTEN READY TO START.  At this point, my 1G
data/apps E partition suddenly had about 30Meg free.
So I made a quick trip to visit Mr.  Partition Magic.
(I booted from my FP12 Utility Diskettes & used PM
3.05.302.  I have PM 4 but it doesn't really support
OS/2 any more.)  In a couple of days, I will run that
DELINST.CMD that comes with the Java install package.
It erases the install files.  Then I could shrink my
partition again, but I don't think I'll bother.

4. Implicit steps, completed months ago, were
installation of Communicator 4.61 & Feature Installer
1.25.  If you haven't done those, you need to do
them.

5. In E:\Java118Install I found INSTALL.EXE.  Double
clicked it.

6. This brought up Communicator in kiosk mode.  Oh.
Somebody posted here months ago that you must have
Communicator configured to come up in the browser,
not the mailer, not the newsreader, not the HTML
composer.  The README further states that you must be
sure you do NOT have -nojit specified in the IBM Java
Properties in the OS/2 Preferences.  This is, of
course, part of the Preferences dialog of
Communicator.  Sorry, this warning is out of
sequence.  Go back & fix this if necessary, then try
INSTALL again.

7. After clicking on a couple of things, I arrived at
a page where I was given a choice between Guided &
Advanced Installation.  I clicked Advanced.

8. Here I got a page with some check boxes in the
left frame & a report of available disk space by
partition in the right frame.  I already have Java
installed so I unchecked the selections in the left
frame for the runtime, toolkit, samples,
documentation, Unicode font, debugger.  Am I
forgetting any?  The only boxes I did check were for
Swing runtime & Swing toolkit.  There is also a box
for the RMI-IIOP thing, but it was grey because I
have not downloaded it.

9. I clicked the button & sat back for about 5
minutes.

10.  When it was done, I compared the updated
CONFIG.SYS with my safe copy.  Very minor changes.
CLASSPATH grew a new entry for swingall.jar.  And a
new SWING_HOME environment variable appeared pointing
to the new Swing subdirectory in the JAVA11 tree.
(Swing in the tree.  Nyuk nyuk.)

11.  There was also an invocation of the Locked File
Device Driver.  But when I looked inside the Locked
File Device Driver script, all I found was:

rm f:\locked

F is my boot partition.  There was no directory named
locked on F. Nor on any other partition.  So I erased
the script file & removed the statements from
CONFIG.SYS.  Every Java install has suffered this
bug.  I've reported it here several times.  Nobody is
listening.

12.  Before shutting down & rebooting, required
because of the changes in CONFIG.SYS, I quickly
applied the Java updates:

12-17-99  8:29a  7,259,280      0 a---  runtime.exe
12-17-99  8:32a  1,765,825      0 a---  samples.exe
12-17-99  8:36a  4,217,582      0 a---  toolkit.exe

13.  As far as I can tell, installing Swing did not
install anything on the Desktop or in any Desktop
folder or subfolder.  Am I missing something?  In any
case, I now have this:

[F:\]java -fullversion
JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.8 IBM build
o118-19991204 (JIT enabled:  javax
V3.5-IBMJDK1.1-19991204)"

And this, extracted from a SYSLEVEL command:

E:\JAVA11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JAV
Java Runtime
Version 1.18     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04009
Prior   CSD level: XR04008

E:\JAVA11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JTK
Java Toolkit
Version 1.18     Component ID 5639B9600
Current CSD level: XR04009
Prior   CSD level: XR04008

E:\JAVA11\bin\SYSLEVEL.JUF
Java Unicode Font
Version 1.00     Component ID 5639D7200
Current CSD level: XR04006
Prior   CSD level: XR04005

E:\JAVA11\demo\SYSLEVEL.JSP
Java Samples
Version 1.18     Component ID 5639B3300
Current CSD level: XR04009
Prior   CSD level: XR04008

E:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\bin\SYSLEVEL.ICA
ICAT Debugger
Version 1.02     Component ID 5639C8300
Current CSD level: XR04009
Prior   CSD level: XR04008

E:\JAVA11\Swing\SYSLEVEL.SWR
IBM OS/2 Swing Runtime
Version 1.10     Component ID 5639B9610
Type EXT
Current CSD level: SW04008
Prior   CSD level: SW04008

E:\JAVA11\Swing\SYSLEVEL.SWT
IBM OS/2 Swing Toolkit
Version 1.10     Component ID 5638B9620
Type EXT
Current CSD level: SW04008
Prior   CSD level: SW04008

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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 07:01:05
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Mikus Grinbergs) wrote:
> This really bugs me - WHY is so much confusion
being spread around ?

Well, there's about 8 flavors of WARP.  That
certainly contributes.

        <<<snip>>>
> - TCP/IP Version 4.1 - this came with the Warp 4
Server package
>                      - this can be purchased from
Software Choice
>                        inetver gives number
involving 5
>
>     Applicable Upgrades:  WR08610, UN01001
>
>     Upgrade WR08620 will bring 4.1 up to (more or
less) 4.2,
>     with the inetver number being changed to
involve 6

This is true.  It is also true that this very same
WR08610 can be applied to TCP/IP 4.0 at WR08423.
This skips you from 4.0 to 4.2, bypassing 4.1.  How
do I know?  Aside from the fact that it says so in
the README, I did it.  Since I never installed
WR08424, I can't say from personal experience whether
WR08610 would go on top of that.  I assume it would,
but nobody who has actually done so has spoken up
here to say one way or the other.

So you can upgrade from 4.0 to 4.2 by applying
WR08610.  NO PURCHASE NECESSARY.  TCP/IP 4.1 NOT
REQUIRED.

> - TCP/IP Version 4.2 - a variant of this came with
Warp 4.5 (WSeB)
>                        inetver gives number
involving 6
        <<<snip>>>

WR08620 states in the README that it is a Fix Pack
for WR08610.  So if you have installed WR08610, you
are supposed to be able to install WR08620.  I did.
But since WR08610 applies to various other platforms
-- Server & WSeB among them, I think -- then WR08620
also applies to them.  And some of them start out at
TCP/IP 4.1.  Also, some platforms came with WR08610
already applied.  Says so in the README for WR08620.
I focus only on the platform I have: WARP 4
uniprocessor non-server Client.  I'm running WR08620.
I'm at TCP/IP 4.2.  I never had TCP/IP 4.1.

It always seemed devoid of confusion to me.

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Dec-99 13:41:25
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 12:53:17
Subj: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

But as I've just spent 30+ hours trying to install win95 on
this "new machine" (those with deja wiew or long memories
may remember my ramblings about the previous machines
inability to install it at all). This machine actually boots
Win95 without a fatal error - I only get those when I
attempt to install the Matrox Video drivers (freezes the
screen at anything but 640x480 intermitantly does the same
for that resolution), the Aw 230 soundcard stuff (installs
but locks the screeen totally on reboot somehow) and /or the
K7M1 board stuff(cycles into a reboot that goes to safe made
that then cycles). And then gratuiuosly F***ed the Master
boot Record for me.
I suppose I should at the positive sided of it - it made the
problems I had with OS/2 on the machine look simple (Matrox
Video drivers for os/2 as supplied on the CD would not let
me have more than 640x480x 256 resolution, then Gradd080
locked the system totally:< Download from Matrox site of new
Matrox drivers fixed that:) ).

One slight problemn during the multiple reboots Ive had
whilst setting this up I've noticed sometimes the system
reports 130 MB memory sometimes 66 MB and if "boot os/2 over
64 MB" is enabled in Bios only 16 MB and with later system
"feels" like it its only using it  too:<
Perhaps someone like Trevor may have the explaination?

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net


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From: [e-mail]                             19-Dec-99 08:31:10
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 12:53:17
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Richard A Crane wrote:
>
> But as I've just spent 30+ hours trying to install win95 on
> this "new machine" (those with deja wiew or long memories
> may remember my ramblings about the previous machines
> inability to install it at all). This machine actually boots
> Win95 without a fatal error - I only get those when I
> attempt to install the Matrox Video drivers (freezes the
> screen at anything but 640x480 intermitantly does the same
> for that resolution), the Aw 230 soundcard stuff (installs
> but locks the screeen totally on reboot somehow) and /or the
> K7M1 board stuff(cycles into a reboot that goes to safe made
> that then cycles). And then gratuiuosly F***ed the Master
> boot Record for me.
> I suppose I should at the positive sided of it - it made the
> problems I had with OS/2 on the machine look simple (Matrox
> Video drivers for os/2 as supplied on the CD would not let
> me have more than 640x480x 256 resolution, then Gradd080
> locked the system totally:< Download from Matrox site of new
> Matrox drivers fixed that:) ).
>
> One slight problemn during the multiple reboots Ive had
> whilst setting this up I've noticed sometimes the system
> reports 130 MB memory sometimes 66 MB and if "boot os/2 over
> 64 MB" is enabled in Bios only 16 MB and with later system
> "feels" like it its only using it  too:<
> Perhaps someone like Trevor may have the explaination?

If you have the ASUS K7M motherboard, you should install the KM1007 BIOS
if it is not already installed.  The BIOS and the flash program are
available at ASUSs FTP site at:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/slota/

Otherwise, the ASUS motherboard should find all of your memory properly
in both Windows and OS/2.  If it does not, your memory may be faulty.
It must be PC100 or PC133 grade memory meeting the specifications in the
ASUS motherboard manual.  You might want to look at that to be sure.

I have been using OS/2 v4 with an overclocked Athlon and ASUS K7M for
over a month with zero problems.  It is easily the best hardware I have
ever had for OS/2.

>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 11:57:17
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 12:53:18
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
>That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
>output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
>see it?

I've read until I'm blue in the face and am confused.  I keep seeing
WR08620 in close proximity to TCP/IP 4.1/2.  How much of this stuff will go
on v 4.0?

Jim L
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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 07:13:29
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 14:32:15
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <MSGID_25=3A100=2F0.6_385adb5b@de>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Okay, for everyone who wants to know the
collisions, the following files
> have newer dates in UN_0980 (in comparison to
WR08610):
        <<<scatter-snip>>>
> SLATTACH.EXE
> TRACERTE.EXE
> VDEBUG.EXE
> VDOSCTL.EXE
> NSLOOKUP.EXE  (newer than WR08620 as well, but much
smaller (non-SMP?))

A blessing upon you!!!  You have saved me the trouble
of downloading the thing & doing this analysis
myself.  You are a GOOD MAN!!!

The files I didn't snip are the only ones that might
be interesting to me.  But since I'm not experiencing
problems with these programs, I don't feel cheated by
not applying this update.

Also, from what others had posted, I had expected to
see FTP.EXE or TELNET.EXE in there.  I guess not.  Oh
well..........

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 07:35:07
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 14:32:15
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article
<[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:35:08,
mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> race condition in the startup sequence.  It was
probably the race they
> put the semaphore file in to stop conflicts
(between the MPTS and
> TCP/IP initialization).

Yeah.  INETWAIT is called from MPTSTART.CMD.  I
remember some posts from people saying they pulled
that out & it sped up bootup.  I remember posting
that there was an APAR about race conditions &
speculating that INETWAIT was the implementation of
the APAR.  So I recommended against that particular
dodge.  And timing during bootup is a problem, not
just with the networking stuff, but overall.

        <<<snip>>>
> NSLOOKUP.EXE and AFNB.SYS, as well as SLIP.EXE were
the files, IIRC,
> and you can find these on the ps ftp site.  I don't
remember if they
> are on the 8620 disks or not,

Yes, they were all updated in WR08620.

> but these will blow up on some netstat
> commands, using nslookup, and slip.exe won't work
right off with 8610.

That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
see it?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: [e-mail]                             19-Dec-99 11:39:22
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 14:32:15
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:10:55, Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:

>     You can probably save yourself some time and hassle by downloading the
> following files from Software Choice (one or both, depending on your
> needs):
>
>     javainsr.exe    - Swing Runtime
>     javainst.exe    - Swing Toolkit
>
>     The big ZPI file you downloaded contains all of the files in these two
> arcihves, however it is *not* installable via any automated means.  It's
> more intended or those who need to package Swing for OS/2 with their
> products, or who otherwise have special installation needs.
>
>     The two files mentioned above have everything you need to install them
> via Feature Installer.
>
> Brad BARCLAY

I also downloaded and manually installed the ZIP file (see my reply to Willy)
and it all seems to work, but I notice from Willy's last post that he has two
SYSLEVEL files which I have not. Should they be in the ZIP file also?

Are there any other differences between the two approaches?

Apart from the SYSLEVEL files, is there anything to be gained by
downloading the other two files and installing these on top of
the ZIP installation which I already have?

One further point, do you know whether there are any updates yet for
Swing and if/when there are, who would be responsible for them?
Hursley?

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                 19-Dec-99 18:01:26
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


Richard A Crane wrote:
> One slight problem during the multiple reboots I've had
> whilst setting this up I've noticed sometimes the system
> reports 130 MB memory sometimes 66 MB and if "boot os/2 over
> 64 MB" is enabled in BIOS only 16 MB and with later system
> "feels" like it its only using it  too:<
> Perhaps someone like Trevor may have the explanation?
You're not running the Asus Athlon MoBo are you ?

It seems all other Athlon MoBo's are ACPI 1 compliant,
rather than ACPI 2.
That means only Win95/98 and NT4.0 can find more than 64MB.

Daniela has written a patch for this:
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/patchldr.zip

Which replaces the OS2LDR, so it behaves like a windos LDR
and even non-windos users have the pleasure of using more
than 64MB.

The OS/2 setting in your BIOS is a fossil back from the OS/2
2.0 era.

OS/2 forever !

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Dec-99 17:54:01
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:01
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:57:35, [e-mail] wrote:

> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
> >That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
> >output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
> >see it?
>
> I've read until I'm blue in the face and am confused.  I keep seeing
> WR08620 in close proximity to TCP/IP 4.1/2.  How much of this stuff will go
> on v 4.0?
>

The MPTS refresh WR8610 can be used on the Warp 4
TCP/IP 4.0. You can also use the update WR8620.

MPTS is the network protocols and NIC drivers, and
includes the TCP/IP stack.

The TCP/IP 4.0 that ships with Warp 4 includes the
TCP/IP applications, FTP, TELNET, FTPPM, etc.
These applications will work with the WR8610/8620
MPTS. The only thing to watch for (from reading other
posts) is that the latest TCP/IP update has a conflict
with the WR8620 stack update.

Apply WR8610 first, then the TCP/IP update UN_980
then the WR8620 update.

WR8610 is a "refresh" and uses MPTS to do the install

WR8620 is a "fixpack" and uses the CSF 1.41 fixpack
tool to do the update.

Maybe this will help??

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                            19-Dec-99 18:04:07
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:01
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-vdPIbsWO1lzH@tcpserver>, [e-mail] (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:01:13, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Again, no.  I went from 4.02something at WR08423
>> directly to 4.2 at WR08610 & then added WR08620. (By
>> the way, WR08610 --> IS <-- TCP/IP 4.2.  That's also
>> in the READMEs.)  This proves it can be done.  I wish
>> somebody else would just post to say, "Me too."  I
>> can't credit the notion that I am the only person on
>> the planet who's done it successfully.  On 2 machines
>> with radically different hardware, not the least
>> difference being one is dial-up & the other is on a
>> LAN.  Come on, folks, somebody, please speak up.....
>>
>
>OK, I'll 'fess up. I did it as soon as WR8610 came
>out. I put it on my Warp 4 system that was running
>the GA of Warp 4 TCP/IP and it worked  perfectly.
>
>When I re-install Warp 4 on my test machine (fairly
>often as I regularly destroy the setup doing beta
>testing, alpha testing and development I always
>go back to WR8610. I have used it for both dial-up
>and LAN connections (through Cisco routers, and
>Cable modems).
>
>I've never had a problem with it (WR8610 installed
>over the Warp 4 GA TCP/IP) myself.
>
>Someone else quoted the README that WR8610
>should not be installed on a non-SMP Warp
>Server system without TCP/IP 4.1, This is
>NOT Warp 4 client (and it does cause problems
>AFAIR, some kind of wierd Traps (D) in the
>stack)

Could I ask if you have Ulti-Mail Lite running with the 08610
stacks--and can you send letters which are composed off-line ok?

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: [e-mail]                           19-Dec-99 18:47:23
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:02
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:04:14, [e-mail] wrote:

<snip all the self confessions>

>
> Could I ask if you have Ulti-Mail Lite running with the 08610
> stacks--and can you send letters which are composed off-line ok?
>

No, I don't use Ulti-Mail Lite,, sorry I can't answer your
question. Perhaps some else can??

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Dec-99 20:04:19
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:02
Subj: Re: Cannot find OS2DASD.DMD at Boot

From: Uwe Pilgram <[e-mail]>

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hi,
<p>did you install IBM's diskmanager? It is used during boot to emulate
255 heads per cylinder. You can find it at the URL below.
<br>Regards
<br>Uwe
<p> <a href="http://www.storage.ibm.com/">IBM Storage | Overview</a>
<br>
<br>
<p>
<br>[e-mail] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hello,
<p>I've copied my OS2 Warp FP26 to a new 16GB HD,
<br>fist Partition = 200MB FAT, Second = 400MB FAT(OS2)
<br>the remaining disk-space is not used(for testing).
<p>If i install the newest Device-Drivers to support
<br>HD>8GB i get following fault-message at booting(ALT-F2)
<br>"Cannot find OS2DASD.DMD" but its in the \os2\boot directory.
<p>If i install the device drivers from the original os2 warp connect
<br>install disks, os2 is starting without any problems! But then i've
<br>problems accessing large partitions, and my ide100-zip drive.
<p>Thanks a lot
<br>Mario Prem
<p>Sent via Deja.com <a href="http://www.deja.com/">http://www.deja.com/</a>
<br>Before you buy.</blockquote>
</html>

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Dec-99 15:31:04
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:56:29
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: Marty <[e-mail]>

"David T. Johnson" wrote:
>
> If you have the ASUS K7M motherboard, you should install the KM1007 BIOS
> if it is not already installed.  The BIOS and the flash program are
> available at ASUSs FTP site at:
>
> ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/slota/

Is this BIOS version a back-level version or an updated version?  In other
words is it a fix put out by ASUS or was it made at a time before it was
broken?  I'm curious because I'm thinking about performing a similar upgrade
and I want to know if such a thing will be available when I'm ready to upgrade
or if there is a chance it could be pulled.

- Marty

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From: [e-mail]                     19-Dec-99 16:38:29
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 19 Dec 1999 13:41:50 GMT, Richard A Crane wrote:

->One slight problemn during the multiple reboots Ive had
->whilst setting this up I've noticed sometimes the system
->reports 130 MB memory sometimes 66 MB and if "boot os/2 over
->64 MB" is enabled in Bios only 16 MB and with later system
->"feels" like it its only using it  too:<
->Perhaps someone like Trevor may have the explaination?

If the BIOS check doesn't find all your memory consistently then it is
grossly faulty (motherboard, BIOS or memory, can't tell which).


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 20:18:29
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <83hu3h$mau$[e-mail]>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:
        <<<snip of install instructions>>>

So after it's installed, ya gotta test it, right?  So
I ran some of the samples & they seem to work OK,
although most of them are just disabled,
proof-of-concept type things.  But when I ran Simple
& clicked the Windows radio button (the Metal & Motif
radio buttons seem to work OK), I got this message in
the Java console:

[E:\JAVA11\Swing\examples\Simple]java SimpleExample
Could not load LookAndFeel:
com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel

I dropped swingall.jar on ZipControl & discovered
that there is indeed a directory structure
com\sun\java\swing\plaf\windows in there with a file
named WindowsLookAndFeel.class.  And when I execute
SET CLASSPATH in a command window, the first entry in
the list is swingall.jar, as set by the Swing
install.

So what's up with this?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 16:19:13
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) said:

>Maybe this will help?

Maybe so.  If MPTS is LAN stuff I won't bother, at least for now.  I'm at
4.02t from the MPTN and TCP/IP update.  I'm one of those dummies who could
never get networking to install and run (although rather large junks of it
are around anyway).  Too many things involved that I could never find
answers to.  Not many network-wise folks write check lists for dummies.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 16:27:05
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) said:

>Maybe this will help?

Maybe so.  If MPTS is LAN stuff I won't bother, at least for now.  I'm at
4.02t

Oops!  Make that 4.02w.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                              19-Dec-99 21:54:14
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail] (Pieter Bras)

I ran into a problem that I believe was caused by CHKDSK.LOG file this
past week:

Once a year or so my server machine gets taken apart, cleaned, tested, etc.
I booted from floppies and ran the CHKDSK32 from Warp 3 FP 40.
After I put the system back together and typed "net start server" the
requester wouldn't start.  An error message stated that "the program failed
to respond to a signal and was killed ..."

I replaced the NIC (3c905), tested the hub, etc.  Nothing wrong with the
hardware.  After hours of desperate searching for the cause, I tried
deleting the CHKDSK.LOG files.  What do you know, the requester started
right up.

Does anyone know what is the mechanism by which CHKDSK.LOG creates
problems?  Is it a bug in HPFS itself, or does CHKDSK corrupt the file
system structure in some fashion?  In the latter case, would merely
deleting CHKDSK.LOG still leave the file system in a damaged (but no
longer visibly damaged) state?

Also I saw some comments here that the "WP ROOT. SF" caused problems.
I don't think I've ever experienced that.  Still, what is the purpose of
this file, and is it OK to delete it?

In article <[e-mail]>,
Steve Drewell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On 17 Dec 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
> problems.
>
>What problems are you seeing which are associated with the presence of
>chkdsk.log?

--
Pieter Bras

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 17:33:12
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: 4.0 stack update big trouble

From: [e-mail]

As soon as I finished installing the last of the stack upgrade I fired up
MR/2 ICE to get my mail.  Neither mail nor news would work!!!

Wellllll, I finally called my ISP.  Yep.  They were experiencing
difficulties.  Darn weird coincidence.  Had me scratching my head real
hard.  ;-)

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 22:13:03
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>> SLATTACH.EXE
>> TRACERTE.EXE
>> VDEBUG.EXE
>> VDOSCTL.EXE
>> NSLOOKUP.EXE  (newer than WR08620 as well, but much smaller (non-SMP?))

> A blessing upon you!!!  You have saved me the trouble
> of downloading the thing & doing this analysis
> myself.  You are a GOOD MAN!!!

The whole MPTS and TCP/IP stuff lies unpacked on an extra partition anyway.
<g> I have to equalize almost any new MPTS or TCP/IP fix or FixPak with
that directories to figure out what IBM has (not) done each time. Lucky me,
no RSU fix archive for many months ...

> The files I didn't snip are the only ones that might
> be interesting to me.  But since I'm not experiencing
> problems with these programs, I don't feel cheated by
> not applying this update.

BTW, the DOSBOX/WINSOCK fix includes an additional newer VDOSTCP.*SYS*,
that is not included in any other archive or FixPak. <g>

> Also, from what others had posted, I had expected to see FTP.EXE or
> TELNET.EXE in there.  I guess not.  Oh well..........

ftp and telnet are services, which are *not* part of MPTS.

Imagine IBM would ship 30+ MB all-in-one Service Pack executables,
like M$ does for their Never Trustworthy product. Man, that would be
boring! Not worth the effort for a 100+ pages website ... 8*)

   /Olli/
--
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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 21:56:23
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

> This really bugs me - WHY is so much confusion being spread around ?

Because it's confusing indeed!

> - TCP/IP Version 4.0 - this came with Warp 4 client
>                        inetver gives number starting with 4

>     Applicable Upgrades:  WR08423, WR08424, LATEST40

WR08424 and LATEST40 update to 4.02w *both*. 8424 requires at least 8421,
while LATEST40 can be installed on top of 8415 (?) or IC16063.

>     Upgrade UN00980 appears to be a Y2K refresh of some TCP/IP
>     applications.  The documentation indicates it is NOT aimed
>     at TCP/IP versions above 4.0 !!

It updates the TCP/IP 3.1 *and* 4.0 services.

> - TCP/IP Version 4.1 - this came with the Warp 4 Server package

No. Warp Server 4 came with TCP/IP 3.1, SMP with 3.5.

>                      - this can be purchased from Software Choice
>                        inetver gives number involving 5

It's the first 32-bit stack and now INETVER is split into three version
numbers for 3 core protocol drivers. The version number reflects the
version of MPTS 5.30xx

>     Applicable Upgrades:  WR08610, UN01001

WR08610 is MPTS 5.4 including stack 4.2. Now the version number
reflects the MPTS CSD level (8)6.10xx.

>     Upgrade WR08620 will bring 4.1 up to (more or less) 4.2,

MPTS 5.5 including 4.21 stack, same CSD level as WSeB.

>     with the inetver number being changed to involve 6

Again the MPTS CSD level (8)6.20xx.

> - TCP/IP Version 4.2 - a variant of this came with Warp 4.5 (WSeB)
>                        inetver gives number involving 6

Complete TCP/IP 4.21 package including full MPTS 5.5. The package is
available for the clients as well (Client Connect Pak, which has an
extra CD, IIRC). 6.20xx version numbers as well.

   /Olli/
--
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http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 22:07:08
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 Doug Bissett wrote:

> True, BUT, UN_980 did something to my system that seems to make
> NETSCAPE 4.61 downloads FAR more reliable. I don't know what got
> updated, but it does work far better, for me. YMMV.

I guess that's FTPAPI.DLL. (FTP has separate fix archives as well), but
the ftp files in UN_0980 are more current.

   /Olli/
--
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From: [e-mail]                                  19-Dec-99 20:06:01
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 21:20:13
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: [e-mail]

You obviously have hardware problems.  When no system will install then
you have to look over the hardware and try to determine what is causing it
by elimination.  You could start with memory and do a vga install with the
least you can manage.  Who is your mb manufacturer???


>Richard A Crane wrote:
>> One slight problem during the multiple reboots I've had
>> whilst setting this up I've noticed sometimes the system
>> reports 130 MB memory sometimes 66 MB and if "boot os/2 over
>> 64 MB" is enabled in BIOS only 16 MB and with later system
>> "feels" like it its only using it  too:<
>> Perhaps someone like Trevor may have the explanation?
>You're not running the Asus Athlon MoBo are you ?

--
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 19:59:06
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 21:20:13
Subj: Internal processing error after installing DDPak fix

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Got the following wonderful message:

Internal processing error
location ##1000:2fc3 - 0002:2fc3

6000, 2008

0586058c

Internal revision 9.029 97/10/01


I'm trying to bring up a new system with warp 4.0.  I started with a
working system disk Warp 4.0 with no fix packs.  Since I had already
successfully installed the dd fixpack on my production system
successfully... what could go wrong!

During installation I got all of the same messages about newer versions
present and locked files... answered them all the same.  Closed done the
system in a neat controlled fashion, rebooted

And what to my wondering eyes should appear but...  (see above)

I don't think contacting my "ibm representative" will do any good.

Any clues?  I did the alt-f2 trick and found the modules scroll by
faster than I can read them.  Do know I get thru ibm1s506 (that's slow),
then about a half a page of modules scroll down about in the blink of an
eye, and it is exception time!  I think there is a way to single step
the boot, but I can't remember it, HELP!

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                                 20-Dec-99 01:39:01
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Netscape in Win-OS/2 not working

From: [e-mail]

I have been getting help from a number of folks and appreciate everything.
The problem is that I STILL can't get Netscape in Win-OS/2 to work.  Here
are the facts:  I have seen the Winsock help files and am doing EVERYTHING
right.  I am loading vdostcp.sys in the dos_device box, I am setting etc in
the
autoexec.bat and am pointing to the etc directory where I have the resolv file
kept.  I have the correct winsock in the tcpip\bin directory, etc etc etc.
Yet it still doesn't work.  I know that it is not Netscape, because NO 16-bit
tcp/ip application wotks either (aim, real audio, etc).
I'm using Warp 4.0 with FP12 and TCP/IP 4.1.  This machine is behind a NAT
firewall on a peer to peer system.  I had it working for months, but messed it
up while I was trying to tweak it.  Now it is not coming up at all.
I can connect fine is OS/2 (Netscape 4.61 for OS/2).  It is only the 16 bit
Netscape (4.04 and 4.08) and also Internet Explorer that doesn't connect.  I
need
it for Quicken.  Can anyone give me any help beyond pointing to the
traditional
help files which explain those things I've aleady done?
Any Help would be greatly appreciated....Thanks.

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 20:50:09
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Re: Internal processing error after installing DDPak fix

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Later breaking news.  My son, whose eyes are faster than mine (or is it
his brain), has determined we have entered the locked file processing.

When I did it on the working machine, all the files were successfully
unlocked.
On this machine we don't even start to put up a user friendly message
(just the unfriendly one).

I must reiterate, HELP!

Ron

Ron Vopicka wrote:
>
> Got the following wonderful message:
>
> Internal processing error
> location ##1000:2fc3 - 0002:2fc3
>
> 6000, 2008
>
> 0586058c
>
> Internal revision 9.029 97/10/01
>
> I'm trying to bring up a new system with warp 4.0.  I started with a
> working system disk Warp 4.0 with no fix packs.  Since I had already
> successfully installed the dd fixpack on my production system
> successfully... what could go wrong!
>
> During installation I got all of the same messages about newer versions
> present and locked files... answered them all the same.  Closed done the
> system in a neat controlled fashion, rebooted
>
> And what to my wondering eyes should appear but...  (see above)
>
> I don't think contacting my "ibm representative" will do any good.
>
> Any clues?  I did the alt-f2 trick and found the modules scroll by
> faster than I can read them.  Do know I get thru ibm1s506 (that's slow),
> then about a half a page of modules scroll down about in the blink of an
> eye, and it is exception time!  I think there is a way to single step
> the boot, but I can't remember it, HELP!
>
> Ron

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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 17:36:23
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:18:59 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>In article <83hu3h$mau$[e-mail]>,
>  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>        <<<snip of install instructions>>>
>
>So after it's installed, ya gotta test it, right?  So
>I ran some of the samples & they seem to work OK,
>although most of them are just disabled,
>proof-of-concept type things.  But when I ran Simple
>& clicked the Windows radio button (the Metal & Motif
>radio buttons seem to work OK), I got this message in
>the Java console:
>
>[E:\JAVA11\Swing\examples\Simple]java SimpleExample
>Could not load LookAndFeel:
>com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel
>
>I dropped swingall.jar on ZipControl & discovered
>that there is indeed a directory structure
>com\sun\java\swing\plaf\windows in there with a file
>named WindowsLookAndFeel.class.  And when I execute
>SET CLASSPATH in a command window, the first entry in
>the list is swingall.jar, as set by the Swing
>install.
>
>So what's up with this?
>
>WW
>Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

I can't document where I saw it, and I have a poor memory.
But, I'm certain I have read that there are licensing
problems with the Windows Look and Feel.  I.e., while the
Windows Look and Feel are technologically available, they
are not always legally available.

Frank.


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From: [e-mail]                                    19-Dec-99 17:46:11
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:54:03 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:57:35, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
>> >That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
>> >output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
>> >see it?
>>
>> I've read until I'm blue in the face and am confused.  I keep seeing
>> WR08620 in close proximity to TCP/IP 4.1/2.  How much of this stuff will go
>> on v 4.0?
>>
>
>The MPTS refresh WR8610 can be used on the Warp 4
>TCP/IP 4.0. You can also use the update WR8620.

Well I'm convinced.  One other question.  If I backup the
Warp 4.0 tcpip\, mptn\, and (possibly) ibmcom\ directories,
do I have enough to revert if something doesn't work?  Or
is life more complicated?

Frank.


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From: [e-mail]                                    20-Dec-99 02:37:03
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <c1.2c.2TJGpl$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-vdPIbsWO1lzH@tcpserver>,
[e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) writes:
> >On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:01:13, Bill "Wild Willy"
Kredentser
> ><[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Could I ask if you have Ulti-Mail Lite running with
the 08610
> stacks--and can you send letters which are composed
off-line ok?

When I first got WARP Connect at home 4 years ago, I
spent a MONTH!!! trying to get this mailer to work.
Never succeeded despite many kind attempts to help
from others here in Usenet.

Allow me to recommend a real E-mail client:

http://www.polarbar.org

Free.  Written in Java.  Best you'll find.  It's
still called beta but it beats the pants off anything
else you'll find, especially UML.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    20-Dec-99 02:57:20
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:18
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <385d0f37$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
        <<<snip>>>
> I've read until I'm blue in the face and am
confused.  I keep seeing
> WR08620 in close proximity to TCP/IP 4.1/2.  How
much of this stuff will go
> on v 4.0?

You must have missed part of this thread, Jim.  As
I've said a number of times on this thread, I have
WARP 4 non-server uniprocessor client.  I installed
the full TCP/IP (also File & Print Sharing) that
comes on the CD released in General Availability in
the fall of 1996.  In the intervening years, I
applied MPTS Refreshes up to & including WR08423, as
well as the "stack updates" that came out during that
time.  Then I applied MPTS Refresh WR08610.  Then I
applied Fix Pack WR08620.  No stack updates since
WR08423.  I now have TCP/IP 4.2 as a result of
applying this maintenance.  I never installed TCP/IP
4.1.

What's confusing about this?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             19-Dec-99 21:31:02
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:19
Subj: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: "Matt Hickman" <[e-mail]>

Since -- I think -- putting on FP12, my EPM spell checker
has not worked.  When trying to invoke it, from EPM, I get
the following popup:

                                        EPMLEX
                                Link File not found

I have a
2-24-94  12:00p     67584           0  LEXAM.DLL

Is there a replacement for this maybe?

and my dictionary is in the directory where EPM thinks it
should be.

Anybody have a clue about this?


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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 22:55:23
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:19
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
>the full TCP/IP (also File & Print Sharing) that
>comes on the CD released in General Availability in
>the fall of 1996.  In the intervening years, I
>applied MPTS Refreshes up to & including WR08423, as
>well as the "stack updates" that came out during that
>time.  Then I applied MPTS Refresh WR08610.  Then I
>applied Fix Pack WR08620.  No stack updates since
>WR08423.  I now have TCP/IP 4.2 as a result of
>applying this maintenance.  I never installed TCP/IP
>4.1.

>What's confusing about this?

To you?  Apparently nothing.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                           20-Dec-99 04:15:14
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:19
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:46:22, "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:54:03 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:57:35, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> >> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
> >> >That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
> >> >output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
> >> >see it?
> >>
> >> I've read until I'm blue in the face and am confused.  I keep seeing
> >> WR08620 in close proximity to TCP/IP 4.1/2.  How much of this stuff will
go
> >> on v 4.0?
> >>
> >
> >The MPTS refresh WR8610 can be used on the Warp 4
> >TCP/IP 4.0. You can also use the update WR8620.
>
> Well I'm convinced.  One other question.  If I backup the
> Warp 4.0 tcpip\, mptn\, and (possibly) ibmcom\ directories,
> do I have enough to revert if something doesn't work?  Or
> is life more complicated?
>

Those should do it...

Of course, backing up your entire boot drive is
always the safest :-)

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                          20-Dec-99 07:18:17
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:19
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:57:41 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>I have
>WARP 4 non-server uniprocessor client.  I installed
>the full TCP/IP (also File & Print Sharing) that
>comes on the CD released in General Availability in
>the fall of 1996.  In the intervening years, I
>applied MPTS Refreshes up to & including WR08423, as
>well as the "stack updates" that came out during that
>time.  Then I applied MPTS Refresh WR08610.  Then I
>applied Fix Pack WR08620.  No stack updates since
>WR08423.  I now have TCP/IP 4.2 as a result of
>applying this maintenance.  I never installed TCP/IP
>4.1.
>
>What's confusing about this?

After applying 8610+8620 over usual Warp 4.0 client
you will have only 4.2 stack - not whole 4.2 package.

With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: [e-mail]                             19-Dec-99 21:33:05
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 03:18:05
Subj: Re: OS/2 on Athlon OK

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

Marty wrote:
>
> "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> > If you have the ASUS K7M motherboard, you should install the KM1007 BIOS
> > if it is not already installed.  The BIOS and the flash program are
> > available at ASUSs FTP site at:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/slota/
>
> Is this BIOS version a back-level version or an updated version?  In other
> words is it a fix put out by ASUS or was it made at a time before it was
> broken?  I'm curious because I'm thinking about performing a similar upgrade
> and I want to know if such a thing will be available when I'm ready to
upgrade
> or if there is a chance it could be pulled.

The KM1007 BIOS is an upgrade to the BIOS that originally shipped with
Rev 1.04 of the K7M motherboard.  The current shipping versions probably
already have this version of the BIOS but versions shipped 3 or 4 weeks
ago may not.  ASUS has also released a beta BIOS which is also at the
link above under 'BETA.'  ASUS typically does not pull a BIOS unless it
is defective.  The flash utility (also at the above link) provides a
means to save your current BIOS before upgrading which is something I
would strongly recommend doing.  So you can reflash the old BIOS if a
newer BIOS causes problems.  Generally ASUS BIOS upgrades are pretty
good and you should not expect problems.

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Dec-99 22:31:18
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 03:18:05
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 07:35:15, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> That's all been fixed in WR08620.  I posted the
> output from a NETSTAT command the other day.  Did you
> see it?

I cheated: I got hold of TCP/IP 41 and scrapped the 8610 version.  The
remote admin functions (curtesy of the Java management interface),
multiple TELNET accounts, and improved logon security sold me.  I was
just passing on notes from that little exercise.  I'm still a little
fuzzy about fixes for 4.1 but that will come.  WSeB goes on shortly so
I figure I can struggle along <g>.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                          20-Dec-99 10:02:08
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 10:21:10
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 21:54:29, [e-mail] (Pieter Bras)
wrote:

>
> Once a year or so my server machine gets taken apart, cleaned, tested, etc.


I saw this and though I couldn't help with the problem I wanted to
reply on the general subject of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But
then I realized I'm even farther to the right than that.

"If it ain't broke, don't even breath" is probably more like it.

(Or, "if it ain't broke, wait fifteen minutes." Or, "if it ain't
broke, go ahead and try to install Object Desktop again.")

On the other hand, I'm sure I've brought every single problem I've
ever had, on myself.

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                 20-Dec-99 11:43:27
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 10:21:11
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> wrote:

>applied MPTS Refreshes up to & including WR08423, as
>well as the "stack updates" that came out during that
>time.  Then I applied MPTS Refresh WR08610.  Then I
>applied Fix Pack WR08620.  No stack updates since
>WR08423.  I now have TCP/IP 4.2 as a result of
>applying this maintenance.  I never installed TCP/IP
>4.1.

WR08610 is a stack update.  Initially is was meant to be for those on
TCPV4 (WR08423 by that time presumably).

Sicne then, someone has updated the 8620 fix to state that you should
really install the full tcpip V4.1 product (from software choice
presumably) as there have been problems it seems in a migration from
the V4 16 bit product to the V4.1/4.2 32 bit one.


>What's confusing about this?

Heaps...which is also why IBM suggests (now) that you actually install
the full product rather than try to upgrade the older V4 one I
suspect.  There are now so many patches, hot fixes, refreshes and
fixpacks for the mptn/tcpip products in general that I doubt anyone
has actually been able to sort it all out and come up with a
completely up to date stack.

Apparently, the whole mess has been basically cleaned up by way of
providing a new 32 bit stack and apps (V4.1) now updated, but still
relatively clean to V4.2

Only trouble is, it costs, and takes some time to install and
configure.  One more good reason for IBM to release a Warp V4.5 IMHO.
Clean, y2k out of the box, all apps pretty up to date.


Cheers,
Craig

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From: [e-mail]                                 20-Dec-99 11:49:15
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 10:21:11
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> wrote:

>This is true.  It is also true that this very same
>WR08610 can be applied to TCP/IP 4.0 at WR08423.
>This skips you from 4.0 to 4.2, bypassing 4.1.  How
>do I know?  Aside from the fact that it says so in
>the README, I did it.  Since I never installed
>WR08424, I can't say from personal experience whether
>WR08610 would go on top of that.  I assume it would,
>but nobody who has actually done so has spoken up
>here to say one way or the other.

Yes, it can.  I did it, but the stack has problems and netstat -s
blows.

Interestingly, as the IBM docos suggest, when I put the full V4.1
product onto a machine and then update it (to V4.2) everything seems a
lot better.


>So you can upgrade from 4.0 to 4.2 by applying
>WR08610.  NO PURCHASE NECESSARY.  TCP/IP 4.1 NOT
>REQUIRED.

But it has problems.  It basically works, but for mine I like a
-really- stable system.

All our production WS4 servers have been going out with fixes
8423+8424 until IBM clears up the mess or we decide to start shipping
WSeB (which will no doubt start happening shortly after fixpack one
comes out next year)

Craig

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From: [e-mail]                              20-Dec-99 09:04:20
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 11:19:26
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:22:34 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:

>On 17 Dec 1999 14:39:25 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
problems.
>>AS per Dave's suggestion I sent in a fault report  and got back what looks
like a standard
>>canned reply, see below.
>>For all those that have had this problem could you email me with the
processor you are using,
>>thanks....Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>Technicians response:
>>*****************************************************************************
******
>> Thank you for choosing to report a suspected defect in our product.
>>
>> The appropriate product specialists have reviewed this defect report
>> and have determined this to not be a known defect in our product or
>> documentation.
>>
>> Work may not continue under this defect report.  However we will be
>> happy to continue to work with you to resolve the problem under one
>> of our SupportLine services.
>>
>> Please call the 1-800-237-5511 to discuss a variety of fee based
>> services.
>>*****************************************************************************
********
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Solutions Management Center
>>T/L 252-6155 or 800-237-5511 options 6,1,1
>>Fax [phone]
>>
>>
>    Thanks, Brian, for giving it a shot - the only hope is if enough people
>do it, someone at IBM may think 'maybe there really *is* something wrong' one
>day.
>
>   In the meantime I use a device driver which comes with the Graham
>Utilities called 'Cleanup.sys' which allows you to put a line in CONFIG.SYS
>to remove any file you list on the DEVICE= line; in this case CHKDSK.LOG. I
>don't remove FOUNDx directories since there may actually be something there I
>want.
>
>   The real crime here is that I am sure there have been OS/2 users who gave
>up on it because of this ridiculous bug; it took me about a month to figure
>it out myself.
>
>Here is my system:
>
>Intel Pentium III, 500MHz, 256MB SDRAM
>Adaptec 7890 SCSI U2W
>Matrox G200 AGP 16MB
>3COM TX905C NIC
>Crystal 4614 based PCI sound
>Plextor 40x SCSI CDROM2
>Yamaha CDR102
>2 - Quantum 9GB U2W drives
>Seagate STT8000 SCSI tape drive
>US Robotics 56K voice modem ISA
>
>   I have had other computers with the same problem. The one factor that all
>of them had in common was wide SCSI controllers by Adaptec. There is a
>reported problem with the Adaptec drivers (AIC7870 and AIC78U2) and chkdsk in
>that if a drive is dirty, and is formatted HPFS, and is set to autocheck, the
>chkdsk on boot runs *very* slowly (for me about 15 min. on 4GB). If you boot
>to diskettes (or any other 'clean' partition) and run chkdsk from the command
>line for the dirty drive it takes far less time (about 90 seconds on my same
>4GB partition). The problem only shows up on a boot. This makes me suspicious
>that our current chkdsk problem may be related.
>
>   It would be interesting if the Adaptec drivers could be implicated by
>others...
>
>Dave McKenna
>
>
>
Hi all,
This is very interesting. I have one system, which consistently exhibits the
problem - T'pad 760XD,
IDE 3.2 Gb HDD.  Home system, PC365, PPro 200, Adaptec 2940UW has never shown
this problem.

T'pad is at FP12, PC365 at FP9, both on same level od OD 2+fixkit 2

I have also reported this to IBM and have not had any response to date.

Cheers,
Tom Pauncz


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From: [e-mail]                            20-Dec-99 14:18:18
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 11:19:26
Subj: Re: Internal processing error after installing DDPak fix

From: [e-mail] (Charles Hunter)

Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]> writes:

>Got the following wonderful message:

>Internal processing error
>location ##1000:2fc3 - 0002:2fc3

>6000, 2008

>0586058c

>Internal revision 9.029 97/10/01


>I'm trying to bring up a new system with warp 4.0.  I started with a
>working system disk Warp 4.0 with no fix packs.  Since I had already
>successfully installed the dd fixpack on my production system
>successfully... what could go wrong!

I was under the impression that you had to install a fixpack before
using the DD fixpack.  Is that not true?  You do seem like you're
getting pretty far into the boot process. You may want to try to boot
back to VGA, apply a regular fixpack and try the DDfixpack again.

[snip]

>the boot, but I can't remember it, HELP!

I hope this helps a little :)

Charles


>Ron

--
Charles R. Hunter
Computer Systems Engineer        Physics Computer Network
Purdue University                [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                20-Dec-99 17:17:16
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: Y2KCLOCK.EXE

From: "Mike Slater" <[e-mail]>

Ivr,

Yes after running Y2kclock.exe those are the files which are installed and
yes they are the flawed ones. (on certain machines).

Ok having emailed IBM and after reading  further I know the full picture.

It looks like one of the reasons PJ25912.ZIP was released
to resolve problems introduced by the Y2KCLOCK.EXE (clocksys
replacement) contained in PJ25309.ZIP. The following is from the
clock01.txt contained in PJ25912.ZIP.
------------
Symptoms include the minute jumping 2 minutes for every minute that
elapsed or
jumping from the 29th of the month to the 1st of the next month at
midnight
(i.e. 10/29 jumps to 11/01).
-----------
What my colleagues did was to visit the IBM website and download this flawed
PJ25309.zip (y2kclock.exe) . As the above describes the fault this can
possibly introduce (and my colleagues experienced), why don't IBM remove it
from the website or make the situation clear. Its surely quite possible that
many people will visit this site for a "last minute check during December"
and subsequently have a disaster on the 29th of the month, obviously if they
had done this earlier in the year they would have experienced a problem on a
previous "29th of the Month".

I realise the above is a known problem but I think the IBM website does not
make it clear, of course if you have latest fix pack the above is not
relevent anyway.

Regards

Mike S



Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:[e-mail]...
> Mike, that problem was a regression that the files in Y2KCLOCK.EXE are
> supposed to fix. You should see these files on the system with the
> problem :
>
> CLOCK01  SYS     4400   4-27-98   5:07p
> CLOCK02  SYS     4282   4-27-98   5:07p
>
> If these are not the correct timestamps, then the user didn't apply the
> fix correctly. If he DID, please E-MAIL me the full details of the h/w.
>
> Irv Spalten
>
> Mike Slater wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody had any experiences using the Y2KCLOCK.EXE to replace the
> > clocksys files for warp/warpconnect v3. This is recommended by IBM
because
> > of possible Y2K dual boot or DosGetTimeDate problems. After performing
this
> > we have seen dates jump 1-2 days in advance around the month end. One
> > particular BIOS was noted as having this fault by one of my colleagues
(1
> > May
> > 1996 AWARD 2A59CF54C-00).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mike S


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From: [e-mail]                               20-Dec-99 12:59:27
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> Oh BLESS YOU, Brad!!!  An explanation that makes
> sense.  The other guys seemed to lose sight of the
> fact that I already HAVE Java.  I want to ADD Swing.
> Installing the new Java updates won't add Swing to my
> system.  They are unrelated activities.

    No problem :).  I hang out here to help when I can :).

Brad BARCLAY

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From: [e-mail]                                20-Dec-99 13:43:00
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: Internal processing error after installing DDPak fix

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Thanks Charles.

I have solved my own problem.  It seems the config.sys (my son's)
doesn't like the new version of pclogic.sys.  I regressed to the old
version and the problem went away.

To those that might be interested in how I arrived at this conclusion,
lest they think it was a flash of insight or a booming voice from above
saying "REPLACE PCLOGIC.SYS" here was the procedure.

1. Read the readme's, found that where the deferred maintenance
drivers/programs were kept. Looked in there and found to my wonderment
that the directory and all of its .dll etc subdirectories were quite
empty.

2. Out of insight (yes, really) I decided to run another chkdsk and
found that there was one lost cluster on C: some of which said,

"OS/2 Corrective Service XR_D001 12/19/99
 Move E:\ibmcsflk\fix\os2\dll\pnp.dl_ c:\os2\dll\pnp.dll
 REMTREE E:\ibmcsflk......"

3. Hmmmm!  The tree is still there and the directories are empty!

4. Think WAY back to when I had to insert a gazillion pause.sys
statements in my config.sys when trying to find a somewhat similar
problem YEARS ago.

5. Found pause.sys, copied it over (under DOS, fortunately its not an
HPFS system so I didn't need to go thru the agony of 3 diskettes to come
to life each time.

6.  Added a binary search sprinkling of pause.sys /w:15 (wait 15
seconds) into the config.sys.... and of course didn't hit the first or
second times, but got VERY much closer to the failure (prior to the
cackling black screen about witches, goblins, and my IBM
representative).

7. Now that I was in the area, I put one pause per device line and gave
it a third shot.

8. BANG. pclogic.sys

9. Found a replacement module, (didn't use the archived one, I suspect
it is compressed or something).

10  Rebooted... success.

11. Post mortem: compared the replaced pclogic with the one installed on
my other system (after successfully applying the DDPak).  They are
IDENTICAL, so the compatibility problem is elsewhere in my son's
config.sys.

As to the comment about applying the fix packs before the ddpak, I
thought, since I am going to FP12, that I would have to install the
ddpak first, still suspect that is OK, but if some thinks otherwise, I'm
willing to listen and learn.

TO ANYONE FROM IBM THAT CAN SPELL OS/2 WHO MAY BE LISTENING (LURKING)

I find very little good to say about MS Windoze BUT their BOOTLOG.TXT
file is well worth emulating, even if I had to manually invoke it in the
config.sys directly as opposed to from a menu.

One look at the log would have told me EXACTLY which module croaked.

In other cases (not this one) it is great for getting elapsed times for
module executions (to explain/quantify pregnant pauses).

Of course, someone will write in and tell me "it already exists, dummy!"

At any rate, bootlogs are a very worthwhile device, even moreso when you
don't have one.

Hope my experience helps someone.  It's been sometime since I've gotten
in up to my neck on something like this.  Thank &diety.  :-)

Ron

Charles Hunter wrote:
>
> Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >Got the following wonderful message:
>
> >Internal processing error
> >location ##1000:2fc3 - 0002:2fc3
>
> >6000, 2008
>
> >0586058c
>
> >Internal revision 9.029 97/10/01
>
> >I'm trying to bring up a new system with warp 4.0.  I started with a
> >working system disk Warp 4.0 with no fix packs.  Since I had already
> >successfully installed the dd fixpack on my production system
> >successfully... what could go wrong!
>
> I was under the impression that you had to install a fixpack before
> using the DD fixpack.  Is that not true?  You do seem like you're
> getting pretty far into the boot process. You may want to try to boot
> back to VGA, apply a regular fixpack and try the DDfixpack again.
>
> [snip]
>
> >the boot, but I can't remember it, HELP!
>
> I hope this helps a little :)
>
> Charles
>
> >Ron
>
> --
> Charles R. Hunter
> Computer Systems Engineer        Physics Computer Network
> Purdue University                [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          20-Dec-99 18:21:22
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:02:17, [e-mail] (Buddy
Donnelly) wrote:

> "If it ain't broke, don't even breath" is probably more like it.

And I *do* know how to spell "breathe".

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                               20-Dec-99 12:57:09
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: who owns SNIFFLE.EXE ?

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

bernd hohmann wrote:
>
> does sb know who owns or maintain sniffle.exe or how to inform him
> about a bug ?
>
> (sniffle is tcp/ip-tool to test the configuration of tcp/ip for
> various ibm-appls under os/2 and does not test some important
> things).

    I can probably find out for you - although it might be easier if you
can let me know what problems you're experiencing with it, and what you
think it's missing.

Brad BARCLAY
DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Leader.

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From: [e-mail]                               20-Dec-99 13:19:06
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: Swing install

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Dave Parsons wrote:
> I also downloaded and manually installed the ZIP file (see my reply to
Willy)
> and it all seems to work, but I notice from Willy's last post that he has
two
> SYSLEVEL files which I have not. Should they be in the ZIP file also?
>
> Are there any other differences between the two approaches?

    Not really.  The SYSLEVEL files aren't necesary for any actual Java
functionality - they tend to be included only to provide system
management tools for large corporate users, where you can scan for and
parse all SYSLEVEL files found to determine exactly what is installed on
a given system, at what revision level.

    If you're not managing dozens of OS/2 based systems, you probably don't
need to care about this.

    I don't actually know if these files are included in the ZIP or not -
the best way to find out is to scan the ZIP file for SYSLEVEL.*.
However, I imagine that if you can't find them on your system, they
weren't in the archive.  I probably wouldn't worry about it.

> Apart from the SYSLEVEL files, is there anything to be gained by
> downloading the other two files and installing these on top of
> the ZIP installation which I already have?

    Probably not.  If Swing works on your system, then there isn't anything
more that you could achieve with the other distribution.  The functional
files are the same in both - it's just installation and management which
differs.

> One further point, do you know whether there are any updates yet for
> Swing and if/when there are, who would be responsible for them?
> Hursley?

    Swing is controlled by Sun - IBM merely provides a supported version of
it for OS/2.  When Sun updates Swing, IBM will probably follow suit.  I
would imagine that Hursley would be responsible for such updates,
however they are probably constrained a bit by Sun's fix schedule.

Brad BARCLAY

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From: [e-mail]                                    20-Dec-99 12:15:06
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: LPT1 clobbered

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <[e-mail]>

Been riding on Fpk-12 for a few weeks now.  Suddenly,
couple of days ago, the following quit working in
OS/2 windows:

c:\> echo "hello world" > lpt1

Weird thing is this: it works in a shell PRIOR to WPS
getting launched.  It does NOT work AFTER the WPS
is running, whether I issue the command in a VIO, or
in a FullScreen session.  Consequently, my VIO mode
editor is not printing.

Good boy that I am, I have a maintenance partition
with a known-to-be-good installation of Warp-4 fpk-12
also.  All's well there.  The following are the same
in both sides of the fence:

PRINT01.SYS
PRINT02.SYS
PARALLEL.SNP (the Plug'n Pray snooper)

"Full Hardware Detection" has been enabled all along
in the Hardware Manager object.

Spooler object seems ok.

Any suggestions?

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From: [e-mail]                               21-Dec-99 08:54:20
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 20:46:01
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Bernard Chan)

In the midst of all this discussion, can someone advise me what is the
difference between STACKS and SERVICES?

Thanks!

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
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-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                 21-Dec-99 16:39:23
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Tom Pauncz"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:22:34 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:
>
>>On 17 Dec 1999 14:39:25 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
problems.
>>>AS per Dave's suggestion I sent in a fault report  and got back what looks
like a standard
>>>canned reply, see below.
>>>For all those that have had this problem could you email me with the
processor you are using,
>>>thanks....Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Technicians response:
>>>****************************************************************************
*******
>>> Thank you for choosing to report a suspected defect in our product.
>>>
>>> The appropriate product specialists have reviewed this defect report
>>> and have determined this to not be a known defect in our product or
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Work may not continue under this defect report.  However we will be
>>> happy to continue to work with you to resolve the problem under one
>>> of our SupportLine services.
>>>
>>> Please call the 1-800-237-5511 to discuss a variety of fee based
>>> services.
>>>****************************************************************************
*********
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Solutions Management Center
>>>T/L 252-6155 or 800-237-5511 options 6,1,1
>>>Fax [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>    Thanks, Brian, for giving it a shot - the only hope is if enough people
>>do it, someone at IBM may think 'maybe there really *is* something wrong'
one
>>day.
>>
>>   In the meantime I use a device driver which comes with the Graham
>>Utilities called 'Cleanup.sys' which allows you to put a line in CONFIG.SYS
>>to remove any file you list on the DEVICE= line; in this case CHKDSK.LOG. I
>>don't remove FOUNDx directories since there may actually be something there
I
>>want.
>>
>>   The real crime here is that I am sure there have been OS/2 users who gave
>>up on it because of this ridiculous bug; it took me about a month to figure
>>it out myself.
>>
>>Here is my system:
>>
>>Intel Pentium III, 500MHz, 256MB SDRAM
>>Adaptec 7890 SCSI U2W
>>Matrox G200 AGP 16MB
>>3COM TX905C NIC
>>Crystal 4614 based PCI sound
>>Plextor 40x SCSI CDROM2
>>Yamaha CDR102
>>2 - Quantum 9GB U2W drives
>>Seagate STT8000 SCSI tape drive
>>US Robotics 56K voice modem ISA
>>
>>   I have had other computers with the same problem. The one factor that all
>>of them had in common was wide SCSI controllers by Adaptec. There is a
>>reported problem with the Adaptec drivers (AIC7870 and AIC78U2) and chkdsk
in
>>that if a drive is dirty, and is formatted HPFS, and is set to autocheck,
the
>>chkdsk on boot runs *very* slowly (for me about 15 min. on 4GB). If you boot
>>to diskettes (or any other 'clean' partition) and run chkdsk from the
command
>>line for the dirty drive it takes far less time (about 90 seconds on my same
>>4GB partition). The problem only shows up on a boot. This makes me
suspicious
>>that our current chkdsk problem may be related.
>>
>>   It would be interesting if the Adaptec drivers could be implicated by
>>others...
>>
>>Dave McKenna
>>
>>
>>
>Hi all,
>This is very interesting. I have one system, which consistently exhibits the
problem - T'pad 760XD,
>IDE 3.2 Gb HDD.  Home system, PC365, PPro 200, Adaptec 2940UW has never shown
this problem.
>
>T'pad is at FP12, PC365 at FP9, both on same level od OD 2+fixkit 2
>
>I have also reported this to IBM and have not had any response to date.
>
>Cheers,
>Tom Pauncz

Dave,
I asked a friend who is completely SCSI(well his machine is) who is also on
FP12 to test this.
He had no problem. He has a 2940Uw.
Brian

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From: [e-mail]                                    21-Dec-99 05:28:02
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Mooo) wrote:
> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Yes, it can.  I did it, but the stack has problems and netstat
-s
> blows.

That is cured in WR08620.  Somewhere on this thread is a post
from me showing the output of a NETSTAT -S command from WR08620.
You are right when you say NETSTAT crashed the whole system
hard, Black Screen of Death, requiring power off or hardware
reset under WR08610.  However, the rest of WR08610 worked fine
for me until WR08620 came out, which then cured NETSTAT.

        <<<snip>>>

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: [e-mail]                                    21-Dec-99 05:37:03
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Mooo) wrote:
> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Sicne then, someone has updated the 8620 fix to state that you
should
> really install the full tcpip V4.1 product

That is not what it says in the README.  It says that if you are
on non-SMP Warp Server, then that is true.  That warning does
not apply to other platforms.  Read it again.

        <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                20-Dec-99 23:51:25
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:21:59, [e-mail] (Clive Dove) wrote:

> Where do you purchase it and for how much.
>
> I thought that you had to subscribe to Software Choice in order to
> purchase it and I don't like buying surprise packages.

Good question - the only place for an unlimited license that I know of
is SW Choice.  You get the next step (4.2) with Warp Server for
eBusiness. I got mine thru a DEVCON subscription but I haven't checked
the license closely on that one since I keep a subscription in place.
I'd be interested in that answer myself since at least one client
would be a good target for the newer stack.  One thing that really
improves is heavily loaded servers running DB2.


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From: [e-mail]                               21-Dec-99 06:49:00
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Cannot find OS2DASD.DMD at Boot

From: [e-mail]

  Uwe Pilgram <[e-mail]> wrote:

did you install IBM's diskmanager? It is used during boot to emulate
255 heads per cylinder. You can find it at the URL below.
Regards
Uwe

Its working now, many thanks
Mario


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From: [e-mail]                             21-Dec-99 14:02:21
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 10:47:03
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:51:50, [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 02:21:59, [e-mail] (Clive Dove) wrote:
>
> > Where do you purchase it and for how much.
> >
> > I thought that you had to subscribe to Software Choice in order to
> > purchase it and I don't like buying surprise packages.
>
> Good question - the only place for an unlimited license that I know of
> is SW Choice.  You get the next step (4.2) with Warp Server for
> eBusiness. I got mine thru a DEVCON subscription but I haven't checked
> the license closely on that one since I keep a subscription in place.
> I'd be interested in that answer myself since at least one client
> would be a good target for the newer stack.  One thing that really
> improves is heavily loaded servers running DB2.
>
>
> Will Honea <[e-mail]>

Which of the many variants of Devcon do you need?
This seems to be another area of confusion.

--
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From: [e-mail]                              21-Dec-99 08:49:06
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 20:31:00
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:04:41 -0500 (EST), Tom Pauncz wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:22:34 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:
>
>>On 17 Dec 1999 14:39:25 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>As several of us have metioned here, the above file has been causing us
problems.
>>>AS per Dave's suggestion I sent in a fault report  and got back what looks
like a standard
>>>canned reply, see below.
>>>For all those that have had this problem could you email me with the
processor you are using,
>>>thanks....Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Technicians response:
>>>****************************************************************************
*******
>>> Thank you for choosing to report a suspected defect in our product.
>>>
>>> The appropriate product specialists have reviewed this defect report
>>> and have determined this to not be a known defect in our product or
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> Work may not continue under this defect report.  However we will be
>>> happy to continue to work with you to resolve the problem under one
>>> of our SupportLine services.
>>>
>>> Please call the 1-800-237-5511 to discuss a variety of fee based
>>> services.
>>>****************************************************************************
*********
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Solutions Management Center
>>>T/L 252-6155 or 800-237-5511 options 6,1,1
>>>Fax [phone]
>>>
>>>
>>    Thanks, Brian, for giving it a shot - the only hope is if enough people
>>do it, someone at IBM may think 'maybe there really *is* something wrong'
one
>>day.
>>
>>   In the meantime I use a device driver which comes with the Graham
>>Utilities called 'Cleanup.sys' which allows you to put a line in CONFIG.SYS
>>to remove any file you list on the DEVICE= line; in this case CHKDSK.LOG. I
>>don't remove FOUNDx directories since there may actually be something there
I
>>want.
>>
>>   The real crime here is that I am sure there have been OS/2 users who gave
>>up on it because of this ridiculous bug; it took me about a month to figure
>>it out myself.
>>
>>Here is my system:
>>
>>Intel Pentium III, 500MHz, 256MB SDRAM
>>Adaptec 7890 SCSI U2W
>>Matrox G200 AGP 16MB
>>3COM TX905C NIC
>>Crystal 4614 based PCI sound
>>Plextor 40x SCSI CDROM2
>>Yamaha CDR102
>>2 - Quantum 9GB U2W drives
>>Seagate STT8000 SCSI tape drive
>>US Robotics 56K voice modem ISA
>>
>>   I have had other computers with the same problem. The one factor that all
>>of them had in common was wide SCSI controllers by Adaptec. There is a
>>reported problem with the Adaptec drivers (AIC7870 and AIC78U2) and chkdsk
in
>>that if a drive is dirty, and is formatted HPFS, and is set to autocheck,
the
>>chkdsk on boot runs *very* slowly (for me about 15 min. on 4GB). If you boot
>>to diskettes (or any other 'clean' partition) and run chkdsk from the
command
>>line for the dirty drive it takes far less time (about 90 seconds on my same
>>4GB partition). The problem only shows up on a boot. This makes me
suspicious
>>that our current chkdsk problem may be related.
>>
>>   It would be interesting if the Adaptec drivers could be implicated by
>>others...
>>
>>Dave McKenna
>>
>>
>>
>Hi all,
>This is very interesting. I have one system, which consistently exhibits the
problem - T'pad 760XD,
>IDE 3.2 Gb HDD.  Home system, PC365, PPro 200, Adaptec 2940UW has never shown
this problem.
>
>T'pad is at FP12, PC365 at FP9, both on same level od OD 2+fixkit 2
>
>I have also reported this to IBM and have not had any response to date.
>
>Cheers,
>Tom Pauncz
>
>

Hello all,
Attached below is the response I received on this problem.  Seems as though
the quality of the
response depends on the technician.
I am still no further ahead, though I too think it may be a media problem.

Technicians response:
*************************************************************
I am unable to recreate the problem which you have documented.  I would
suggest that you attempt to download the tool listed below and open the
file.  You may also want to delete the log files you have and have the
system recreate it.  Furthermore, it is possible that you have a
harddrive media issue and this file is sitting on a bad sector.
Renaming the current file and letting the system make it again later
someplace else may clear this up.  Thanks.
.
   5.10.2 CHKDSK LOG FORMATTER
.
   CHKDSK creates a binary service log file (chkdsk.log) on the root of
the drive being checked during autocheck or whenever the /F option is
invoked.  The previous log file is saved as chkdsk.old. A formatter for
this log file can be found at:
.
   ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/chklogpk.exe
.
.
   This is a self extracting ZIP file. Place it in a directory in your
path and enter CHKLOGPK. This will create the following files:
.
     message.txt
     msghdr.txt
     pmchklog.exe
     range.txt
     readme
.
.
   They should all have a date of 05/14/97 or later (May 14, 1997).
This is a tool used by OS/2 service to format and view the new CHKDSK
log  entries.  There is no support for this tool. You are welcome to
use it but if you have problems with it or do not understand the output
DO NOT contact IBM for assistance as none will be provided.


Cheers,
Tom Pauncz


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From: [e-mail]                                21-Dec-99 16:28:29
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Well, I started the thread, listened, participated and was convinced I
could, indeed, install 8610 and 8620 on my warp 4 non-SMP non_server
system.

Fortunately, I had a "non-production" system to install on.  I installed
8423, 8424, dosbox, latest40, un_0980, ip8412, DHCP... and it ran
smashingly (that is, really well.

So after listening to Wild Willie and others I decided my concern about
installing 8610 and 8620 was just an overblown part of my gloomy
personality.

So I installed 8610... and CRRRRASH.  I finally isolated the trap e to
cntrl.exe.  Figured maybe I could regress to the last working one... on
examination I noted a HUGE change in size, like 11k vs 55k and thought
to myself, this is not going to work.

It didn't.

I finally went back to installing 8423, got that condensending voice
saying, "You are installing a version OLDER than the one currently
installed, do you REALLY want to do this?"  Well, I said yes and told
him to button it.

I shall stay at the 8424 level until I have the aura of gloom lifted
from me.

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                             21-Dec-99 23:04:18
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume

From: [e-mail] (Mancini)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:33:16 -0600, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>
wrote:

    What are the latest fixpacks for Warp for Windows and Merlin?

    Where to get them?

Thanks.

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From: [e-mail]                                    21-Dec-99 23:09:25
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Trap and testcfg.sys problem

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:22:52, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> The following is from the OS/2 Warp-4 Documents .INF file
> (I think it's good to keep a printed copy of this list
> because it's inaccessible when these errors happen,
> and it might prevent a major panick attack):

>  "DESCRIPTION
>
>  General List of OS/2 Traps

(etc.......)

Actually, it's a bug in the TESTCFG.SYS driver. He applied my patch
for that driver and it's working now.

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                21-Dec-99 20:38:01
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Y2KCLOCK.EXE

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 Mike Slater wrote:

> Yes after running Y2kclock.exe those are the files which are installed and
> yes they are the flawed ones. (on certain machines).

IIRC, that version (10.005, type bldlevel \os2\boot\clock01.sys at
command prompt) includes a specific fix for Warp Server SMP, which causes
the problem on non-SMP machines. Use the older driver that has the Y2K
fix (10.001) or a more current one from a base operating system FixPak or
from the Device Driver FixPak (10.032).

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: [e-mail]                                  22-Dec-99 00:19:18
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

8610 is what upgrades you to the 32bit stack & many have had
problems as you describe.
I was lucky, & able to successfully apply 8610 & 8620 to my
WARP 4 client, the 32bit stack DOES make a difference if you
are running highspeed access.

Eric...


>On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:28:58, Ron Vopicka
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Well, I started the thread, listened, participated and was convinced I
> could, indeed, install 8610 and 8620 on my warp 4 non-SMP non_server
> system.
>
> Fortunately, I had a "non-production" system to install on.  I installed
> 8423, 8424, dosbox, latest40, un_0980, ip8412, DHCP... and it ran
> smashingly (that is, really well.
>
> So after listening to Wild Willie and others I decided my concern about
> installing 8610 and 8620 was just an overblown part of my gloomy
> personality.
>
> So I installed 8610... and CRRRRASH.  I finally isolated the trap e to
> cntrl.exe.  Figured maybe I could regress to the last working one... on
> examination I noted a HUGE change in size, like 11k vs 55k and thought
> to myself, this is not going to work.
>
> It didn't.
>
> I finally went back to installing 8423, got that condensending voice
> saying, "You are installing a version OLDER than the one currently
> installed, do you REALLY want to do this?"  Well, I said yes and told
> him to button it.
>
> I shall stay at the 8424 level until I have the aura of gloom lifted
> from me.
>
> Ron


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From: [e-mail]                             21-Dec-99 19:47:21
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: "David McKenna" <[e-mail]>

On 21 Dec 1999 16:39:47 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

>Dave,
>I asked a friend who is completely SCSI(well his machine is) who is also on
FP12 to test this.
>He had no problem. He has a 2940Uw.
>Brian

   Well... so much for that theory!  BTW, is your friend using Adaptec?

Dave McKenna


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From: [e-mail]                             21-Dec-99 20:14:29
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: "David McKenna" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:49:13 -0500 (EST), Tom Pauncz wrote:

>Technicians response:
>*************************************************************
>I am unable to recreate the problem which you have documented.  I would
>suggest that you attempt to download the tool listed below and open the
>file.  You may also want to delete the log files you have and have the
>system recreate it.  Furthermore, it is possible that you have a
>harddrive media issue and this file is sitting on a bad sector.
>Renaming the current file and letting the system make it again later
>someplace else may clear this up.  Thanks.
>..
>   5.10.2 CHKDSK LOG FORMATTER
>..
>   CHKDSK creates a binary service log file (chkdsk.log) on the root of
>the drive being checked during autocheck or whenever the /F option is
>invoked.  The previous log file is saved as chkdsk.old. A formatter for
>this log file can be found at:
>..
>   ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/chklogpk.exe
>..
>..
>   This is a self extracting ZIP file. Place it in a directory in your
>path and enter CHKLOGPK. This will create the following files:
>..
>     message.txt
>     msghdr.txt
>     pmchklog.exe
>     range.txt
>     readme
>..
>..
>   They should all have a date of 05/14/97 or later (May 14, 1997).
>This is a tool used by OS/2 service to format and view the new CHKDSK
>log  entries.  There is no support for this tool. You are welcome to
>use it but if you have problems with it or do not understand the output
>DO NOT contact IBM for assistance as none will be provided.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Tom Pauncz
>
>
   Now it seems they have tried to reproduce it!  Maybe we're getting
somewhere...

   During the time I was tearing my hair out over this, I had a totally
different computer than I do now. One of the many things I did to try to
isolate the problem was low-level format my SCSI drive (to mark bad blocks),
partition and format HPFS, load Warp (no Networking, no BonusPak), then load
FP9. Turn off the computer to force a check on reboot, then open the root
directory in the drives object . After about 30 seconds everything starts to
go slow and after about 2 min. totally hung. CAD. The next boot would often
remove the CHKDSK.LOG as corrupted (and replace it with a brand new one).
Remove CHKDSK.LOG after booting (from the command line) and this doesn't
happen. 100%

   Partly as a result of this problem, I decided to get a new computer. Same
deal when I installed on the new one (all new hard drives). I've seen this
problem on two other computers as well.

   Is CHKDSK.LOG being written to the exact same very particular spot on the
hard drive each time? Maybe something stomps on it after being written during
the boot process and damages it? It is hard for me to believe 4 different
computers all have a defect on their hard drive just where CHKDSK.LOG (and
FOUNDx directories) is being written - but stranger things have happened...

Dave McKenna


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From: [e-mail]                                    21-Dec-99 17:31:09
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Trap and testcfg.sys problem

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <[e-mail]>

Bob Eager wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:22:52, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >  General List of OS/2 Traps
>
> (etc.......)
>
> Actually, it's a bug in the TESTCFG.SYS driver. He applied my patch
> for that driver and it's working now.

Hm, interesting.  Did you get hold of the source code?
How?

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Dec-99 01:49:00
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 05:20:00
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:02:43, [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)
wrote:

> Which of the many variants of Devcon do you need?
> This seems to be another area of confusion.

The WSeB CD's are in the ADVANCED section.  I can't quote the prices (
Hell, I can't even figure them OUT!) but I think there are 2 ways of
going.  One is the more expensive version where you get the full CDROM
set shipped 3-4 times a year.  The cheaper way, as I recall, gets you
membership privileges that allow tou to download anything via the web.
 Somewhere I recall seeing where there were programs available for
something like $300 a year for web access but so many of the things
I'm interested in have gotten too big even with a T1 available. WSeB
is, what, 5 CDROMs?  I do know that the Premier level membership gets
you a set of 103 CDROMs as of the last (Dec 99) shipment of Release 2
but a lot of that is DB2 and other platform stuff (AIX, NT, 390, etc).
 Somewhere on the web page I think they quote prices but a call to the
1-800 number will get a quick answer.  The sales group there is really
helpful but don't be too surprised when they answer with a bit of an
accent.  About a year ago IBM moved the whole Devcon operation to
Denmark from Boulder.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Dec-99 21:35:25
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 10:31:07
Subj: Re: CHKDSK.LOG Problem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "David McKenna"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On 21 Dec 1999 16:39:47 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Dave,
>>I asked a friend who is completely SCSI(well his machine is) who is also on
FP12 to test this.
>>He had no problem. He has a 2940Uw.
>>Brian
>
>   Well... so much for that theory!  BTW, is your friend using Adaptec?
>
Dave
Yes he is 2940UW.
Good to see we might be getting some action at last.
I have down loaded the formatter and will post results.
Brian

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From: [e-mail]                                    22-Dec-99 11:15:16
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 10:31:08
Subj: Re: Trap and testcfg.sys problem

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 01:31:18, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > Actually, it's a bug in the TESTCFG.SYS driver. He applied my patch
> > for that driver and it's working now.
>
> Hm, interesting.  Did you get hold of the source code?
> How?

It's in the Device Driver Kit. Mind, it'd have been pretty easy
without...

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Dec-99 06:42:06
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 10:31:08
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.bugs, [e-mail] (Mancini)
spake unto us, saying:

> What are the latest fixpacks for Warp for Windows and Merlin?

"Merlin" referred to the OS/2 Warp 4 beta, but its usage was dropped
years ago.  :-)

To get the various FixPaks, I'd suggest going here:

  http://www.os2ss.com/MasterUpdate/

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                       ((wrong && wrong) != right)

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     22-Dec-99 19:29:23
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:17:14
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:04:37, [e-mail] (Mancini) wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:33:16 -0600, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>     What are the latest fixpacks for Warp for Windows and Merlin?
>
>     Where to get them?
>
> Thanks.
>

Warp3 for windows: the LAST (and final, apparently) is Fix Pack 40.
(there is a way to continue using warp server fix packs, but I don't
think I would recommend that).

Warp4: the Latest is Fix Pack 12 (it is rumoured that FP13 may show
up, early in the new year).

You can get these at:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes

and follow the appropriate links. You will also want the Device Driver
fix pack (same set of links).

I also suggest that you check out:

http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

for these, and other things that you may want to fix.

Be sure to READ the README files, carefully.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     22-Dec-99 19:29:24
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:17:14
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:28:58, Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Well, I started the thread, listened, participated and was convinced I
> could, indeed, install 8610 and 8620 on my warp 4 non-SMP non_server
> system.
>
> Fortunately, I had a "non-production" system to install on.  I installed
> 8423, 8424, dosbox, latest40, un_0980, ip8412, DHCP... and it ran
> smashingly (that is, really well.
>
> So after listening to Wild Willie and others I decided my concern about
> installing 8610 and 8620 was just an overblown part of my gloomy
> personality.
>
> So I installed 8610... and CRRRRASH.  I finally isolated the trap e to
> cntrl.exe.  Figured maybe I could regress to the last working one... on
> examination I noted a HUGE change in size, like 11k vs 55k and thought
> to myself, this is not going to work.
>
> It didn't.
>

If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it specifically says that
8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for SMP server. It does
say that you should NOT use them on other systems.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                          22-Dec-99 16:19:05
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:25
Subj: Re: Internal processing error after installing DDPak fix

From: Joe Farruggio <[e-mail]>

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Joe Farruggio wrote:
Where do you get pause.sys from? TIA

Ron Vopicka wrote:

> Thanks Charles.
>
> I have solved my own problem.  It seems the config.sys (my son's)
> doesn't like the new version of pclogic.sys.  I regressed to the old
> version and the problem went away.
>
> To those that might be interested in how I arrived at this conclusion,
> lest they think it was a flash of insight or a booming voice from above
> saying "REPLACE PCLOGIC.SYS" here was the procedure.
>
> 1. Read the readme's, found that where the deferred maintenance
> drivers/programs were kept. Looked in there and found to my wonderment
> that the directory and all of its .dll etc subdirectories were quite
> empty.
>
> 2. Out of insight (yes, really) I decided to run another chkdsk and
> found that there was one lost cluster on C: some of which said,
>
> "OS/2 Corrective Service XR_D001 12/19/99
>  Move E:\ibmcsflk\fix\os2\dll\pnp.dl_ c:\os2\dll\pnp.dll
>  REMTREE E:\ibmcsflk......"
>
> 3. Hmmmm!  The tree is still there and the directories are empty!
>
> 4. Think WAY back to when I had to insert a gazillion pause.sys
> statements in my config.sys when trying to find a somewhat similar
> problem YEARS ago.
>
> 5. Found pause.sys, copied it over (under DOS, fortunately its not an
> HPFS system so I didn't need to go thru the agony of 3 diskettes to come
> to life each time.
>
> 6.  Added a binary search sprinkling of pause.sys /w:15 (wait 15
> seconds) into the config.sys.... and of course didn't hit the first or
> second times, but got VERY much closer to the failure (prior to the
> cackling black screen about witches, goblins, and my IBM
> representative).
>
> 7. Now that I was in the area, I put one pause per device line and gave
> it a third shot.
>
> 8. BANG. pclogic.sys
>
> 9. Found a replacement module, (didn't use the archived one, I suspect
> it is compressed or something).
>
> 10  Rebooted... success.
>
> 11. Post mortem: compared the replaced pclogic with the one installed on
> my other system (after successfully applying the DDPak).  They are
> IDENTICAL, so the compatibility problem is elsewhere in my son's
> config.sys.
>
> As to the comment about applying the fix packs before the ddpak, I
> thought, since I am going to FP12, that I would have to install the
> ddpak first, still suspect that is OK, but if some thinks otherwise, I'm
> willing to listen and learn.
>
> TO ANYONE FROM IBM THAT CAN SPELL OS/2 WHO MAY BE LISTENING (LURKING)
>
> I find very little good to say about MS Windoze BUT their BOOTLOG.TXT
> file is well worth emulating, even if I had to manually invoke it in the
> config.sys directly as opposed to from a menu.
>
> One look at the log would have told me EXACTLY which module croaked.
>
> In other cases (not this one) it is great for getting elapsed times for
> module executions (to explain/quantify pregnant pauses).
>
> Of course, someone will write in and tell me "it already exists, dummy!"
>
> At any rate, bootlogs are a very worthwhile device, even moreso when you
> don't have one.
>
> Hope my experience helps someone.  It's been sometime since I've gotten
> in up to my neck on something like this.  Thank &diety.  :-)
>
> Ron
>
> Charles Hunter wrote:
> >
> > Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]> writes:
> >
> > >Got the following wonderful message:
> >
> > >Internal processing error
> > >location ##1000:2fc3 - 0002:2fc3
> >
> > >6000, 2008
> >
> > >0586058c
> >
> > >Internal revision 9.029 97/10/01
> >
> > >I'm trying to bring up a new system with warp 4.0.  I started with a
> > >working system disk Warp 4.0 with no fix packs.  Since I had already
> > >successfully installed the dd fixpack on my production system
> > >successfully... what could go wrong!
> >
> > I was under the impression that you had to install a fixpack before
> > using the DD fixpack.  Is that not true?  You do seem like you're
> > getting pretty far into the boot process. You may want to try to boot
> > back to VGA, apply a regular fixpack and try the DDfixpack again.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >the boot, but I can't remember it, HELP!
> >
> > I hope this helps a little :)
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > >Ron
> >
> > --
> > Charles R. Hunter
> > Computer Systems Engineer        Physics Computer Network
> > Purdue University                [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Dec-99 17:05:02
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:25
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it specifically says that
> 8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for SMP server. It does
> say that you should NOT use them on other systems.

Tell it to Wild Willie and Co.

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Dec-99 17:06:12
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:25
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it specifically says that
> 8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for SMP server. It does
> say that you should NOT use them on other systems.

Tell it to Wild Willie and Co.

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                        22-Dec-99 18:26:27
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: [e-mail]

Sorry, I am a bit late in this response to your post(s).
You probably have accumulated enough info but if not
there was a recent thread on this subject area quite
recently.  I do not have have the full amount of posts
on the previous thread (you will probably have to do
a Deja) but I include what I have below:-



From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Workplace shell bugs
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:58:32 +0200 (CET)

I found some bugs not fixed in fixpack 12. Can anybody confirm
these?

    1. Draging and dropping of a file attachment from PMmail 2.1
to a
    folder will halt the WPS (not responding and no reset
possible) if
    the name of the file has spaces in it.

    Dropping files to the WPS itself will most often kill
the WPS even
    with short, 8.3 names.  Maybe size is important here.

    2. Draging and dropping an *.exe or *.cmd file will
always create
    a shadow even if the wps setting reads move.  This will
not happen
    if other files too are dropped.  This bug was introduced
in warp 4
    and is very annoying.

    3. Playing sound with mwave drivers with for instance
the
    entertainment pack for os/2, warpamp and a bunch other
software
    will generate a 100% cpu utilization one or two seconds
after the
    program is closed. Starting a second program with sound
enabled
    will hang the WPS.

Arjen
________

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Workplace shell bugs
Date: 20 Oct 1999 19:07:47 +0300

> 2. Draging and dropping an *.exe or *.cmd file will always
create
> a shadow even if the wps setting reads move.  This will not
happen
> if other files too are dropped.  This bug was introduced in
warp 4
> and is very annoying.

I can't make that happen on my system. Well, dragging a file
object
that's .exe or .cmd to some WPS folder creates a program object,
but
that's as it should be in my opinion.

Anssi Saari
__________

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)
Subject: Re: Workplace shell bugs
Date: 20 Oct 1999 18:47:35 GMT

Item 2 isn't a bug, it's a very poorly implemented feature.  D&D
for
exe's and cmd's should produce a *program object*, not a shadow.
 Look
at the resulting object's notebook:  there should not be a
'File' tab.

IMHO, this was a very good idea, but it should only have been
applied
to exe's dropped on the Desktop or one of its subfolders.  Then
too,
this feature should have dropped the ".exe" or ".cmd" from the
object's
title to make the transformation somewhat more obvious.  (I
tried to do
this in DTProgram but failed.  It appears that the title is set
by the
original program-file object rather than the resulting program
object).

Rich Walsh
__________

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Workplace shell bugs
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:40:32 +0200 (CET)

On 22 Oct 1999 14:51:11 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:

:> This table identifies what happens when I drag one or more
files
:> and drop them without pressing any keys:
:>
:> File(s) dragged    Desktop           other folders
:> ---------------    --------------    --------------
:> exe's only         pgm object        pgm object
:>
:> exe's & other
:> files combined     move or shadow    move
:>
:> cmd file(s)        move or shadow    move
:>

You are right even on fixpack 12. I would add *.com file. They
have the
behaviour as *.exe files. *.bat behaves like *.cmd files.

(My compliments for dragtext 3.1.)

Arjen
__________

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Workplace shell bugs part II
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:02:46 +0100 (CET)

To follow up my own posting:

I found some bugs not fixed in fixpack 12. Can anybody confirm
these?

Draging and dropping of a file attachment from pmmail 2.1 to a
folder which
is opened AS A SHADOW will halt the WPS (not responding and no
reset
possible). The length of the filename has no influence. (Maybe
this is a
error in my *.ini files, but I think it is a real bug.)

*.exe, *.cmd, *.com and *.bat file which are dragged to the
workplace  do
create an program object even if the desktop setting is move. In
a mixed drag
and drop operation they are moved correctly.

No extra information on bug tree.
Playing sound with mwave drivers with for instance the
entertainment pack
for os/2, warpamp and a bunch other software will generate a
100% cpu
utilization one or two seconds after the program is closed.
Starting a second
program with sound enabled will hang the WPS.

Any word on mwave drivers that correct this serious problem?

Arjen
_________



Hope this is of some use.

Regard, Kevin.

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Dec-99 01:33:25
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 23:22:13
Subj: Re: Trap and testcfg.sys problem

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:22:09, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > It's in the Device Driver Kit. Mind, it'd have been pretty easy
> > without...
>
> Without recompiling?  You mean hacking the binary itself?
> It might be doable, but I wouldn't call it "easy."

I didn't recompile. I DID hack the binary. Mind, I've been doing this
sort of thing for 25 years....

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Dec-99 05:50:15
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: OS/2 ROCKS!!!!

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

So I've got Real Audio playing the radio broadcast of
the Vancouver Canucks beating up on the Washington
Capitals to give Felix Potvin his first win in his
new uniform.  I've got the Scorepost thing from ESPN
running the NHL scores.  I've got a large file
downloading in Communicator 4.61.  And I'm here at
Deja News posting.  Sure, there's a lot of dropouts
in the radio broadcast, the download is taking
forever, and response from Deja News isn't exactly
snappy.  But that's all I can do on a crappy 21600
phone connection.  Thanks Cincinnati Bell ... NOT!!!

There is no doubt at all that OS/2 WARP 4 is the ONLY
choice.

And while I'm here, let me say again how impressive &
humbling it is to see the Christmas spirit manifested
in this news group 365 days of the year.  Best wishes
to all.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Dec-99 06:04:24
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

What it does say is 'do not install on NON-SMP **WARP
SERVER** ' .   I run the **WARP CLIENT** as most here do, &
indeed it can be made to work as intended.

Eric...


> If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it specifically says that
> 8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for SMP server. It does
> say that you should NOT use them on other systems.
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************


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From: [e-mail]                                23-Dec-99 06:48:29
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: XFree86-3.3.5 and FP12 Problem

From: [e-mail] (Holger Veit)

On 23 Dec 1999 00:09:19 GMT, F. Heitkamp <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I installed XFree86 3.3.5 and then, some weeks later,
>Fix Pak 12.  Now I can't change resolutions using
>CTRL-ALT--.  Anyone else had this problem?

I haven't.

Holger

--
"Well, from what I've read, scientific studies show men tend to be better at
dealing with visual concepts, while women are better at complex linguistic
communication." - "You mean..." - "Men are from MACs, women are from VMS"
    Erwin the AI, www.userfriendly.org

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Dec-99 06:51:08
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> > If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it
specifically says that
> > 8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for
SMP server. It does
> > say that you should NOT use them on other
systems.
>
> Tell it to Wild Willie and Co.

Yeah, tell me indeed.  That is surprising.  Not only
does that contradict what it says in the README for
WR08610, which was released on October 20, 1998 --
more than a YEAR before UN_0980 -- but it contradicts
the reality of my 2 systems, which have been running
on WR08610 since a couple of days after WR08610
became available.  My office system runs on DHCP, by
the way, for the person who said he had DHCP trouble
with it.  Perhaps there is a configuration issue, if
you care to pursue it.  My suspicion is there might
be something weird in either %ETC%\DHCPCD.CFG or
MPTN\BIN\SETUP.CMD.  If you post what WR08610 left on
your system in those 2 files, we might be able to get
you running.  Also, you must read the README.MPT
inside the first diskette image.  The whole thing.
Carefully.  There's some device drivers that reside
in different directories as a result of applying this
MPTS Refresh.  Device drivers.  As in CONFIG.SYS
changes.

And to Dave Tholen, it is my understanding that the
following sets of maintenance are meant to update
non-overlapping sets of files:

1. XR_Mxxx system Fix Packs
2. WRxxxx MPTS & TCP/IP stack updates
3. IPxxxx Peer (File & Print Sharing) updates
4. XR_Dxxx Device Driver Fix Packs (mostly, but what
collisions there are, are meant to be benign)

Best I can tell, they indeed don't overlap.

Now if they could just get system Fix Packs & Java to
be separate............

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Dec-99 07:02:03
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <83sgos$uhq$[e-mail]>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> the reality of my 2 systems, which have been
running
> on WR08610 since a couple of days after WR08610
> became available.  My office system runs on DHCP,
        <<<snip>>>

I also put WR08620 on both systems within a couple of
days of its July 7, 1999 release.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    22-Dec-99 23:37:15
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 05:15:02
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

tcp/ip update log

0.  inetver 4.0w
1.  downloaded wr08610, wr08620, un0980
2.  applied wr08610, reboot
3.  applied un0980, reboot
4.  applied wr08620, reboot
5. inetver
   SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2001
   AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
   AFINET.SYS:  6.2002
6.  Posted this message with my single computer network. :-)

frank.


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From: [e-mail]                          23-Dec-99 12:07:05
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 23:37:31 -0800 (PST), frank schmittroth wrote:

>0.  inetver 4.0w
>1.  downloaded wr08610, wr08620, un0980
>2.  applied wr08610, reboot
>3.  applied un0980, reboot
>4.  applied wr08620, reboot
>5. inetver
>   SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2001
>   AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
>   AFINET.SYS:  6.2002

So am I :-) (only without un0980)
All works fine (excluding sendmail)

With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: [e-mail]                             23-Dec-99 11:26:04
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:49:01, [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:02:43, [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)
> wrote:
>
> > Which of the many variants of Devcon do you need?
> > This seems to be another area of confusion.
>
> The WSeB CD's are in the ADVANCED section.  I can't quote the prices (

> Somewhere on the web page I think they quote prices but a call to the
> 1-800 number will get a quick answer.  The sales group there is really
> helpful but don't be too surprised when they answer with a bit of an
> accent.  About a year ago IBM moved the whole Devcon operation to
> Denmark from Boulder.
>
> Will Honea <[e-mail]>

Thanks for the info. I'm not in the States so I can't use the 1-800 number
but I'll try the Devcon site again and see if I can get a local number.
I wish you could order it on-line, it would make life a lot easier.
Talking long distance to sales people who put you on hold etc, is at the
very least expensive and frequently not very helpful either.

--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                23-Dec-99 08:04:02
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 ROCKS!!!!

From: "Billy Ko" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:50:30 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

:>So I've got Real Audio playing the radio broadcast of
:>the Vancouver Canucks beating up on the Washington
:>Capitals to give Felix Potvin his first win in his
:>new uniform.  I've got the Scorepost thing from ESPN
:>running the NHL scores.  I've got a large file
:>downloading in Communicator 4.61.  And I'm here at
:>Deja News posting.  Sure, there's a lot of dropouts
:>in the radio broadcast, the download is taking
:>forever, and response from Deja News isn't exactly
:>snappy.  But that's all I can do on a crappy 21600
:>phone connection.  Thanks Cincinnati Bell ... NOT!!!
:>
:>There is no doubt at all that OS/2 WARP 4 is the ONLY
:>choice.
:>
:>And while I'm here, let me say again how impressive &
:>humbling it is to see the Christmas spirit manifested
:>in this news group 365 days of the year.  Best wishes
:>to all.
:>
:>WW
:>Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
:>
:>
:>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
:>Before you buy.
 How did you get the hockey broadcast?  Didn't they upgrade to the G2 codec
which doesn't work with OS/2?  (As far as I know.)

Bill
Team OS/2

-----

OS/2 - If you want "productivity" to be more than a few
four-letter words.



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From: [e-mail]                                23-Dec-99 08:16:12
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Eric,

It would be helpful to me if you could tell me exactly what order you
applied the fixes in.

My system started on FP12 with DD FP installed

8423 > 8424 > DOSBOX > LATEST40 > UN_0980

Boots after each install, final install of 8610 trap "e" in cntrl (or
shortly afterward.

I appreciate WW comment that it could be a configuration file, but I'm
afraid the evidence he wants is long gone... and I'm not too anxious to
recreate the data :-)

Ron

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> What it does say is 'do not install on NON-SMP **WARP
> SERVER** ' .   I run the **WARP CLIENT** as most here do, &
> indeed it can be made to work as intended.
>
> Eric...
>
> > If you read the docs, that come with UN_980, it specifically says that
> > 8610, and 8620, are for TCPIP version 4.1, OR for SMP server. It does
> > say that you should NOT use them on other systems.

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Dec-99 13:17:16
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <83rohn$5nj$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Dave Tholen) wrote:
>While on the subject, I'm wondering whether any of the Warp 4 FixPaks
>update any of the TCPIP or MPTS files.  Does IBM keep those updates
>completely separate?

Yes, IBM keeps them separate. Base fixpaks only update the Base OS.
Beginning with, I think it was FP11 for Warp 4, IBM has kept the
Device DRiver fixes separate, also ... hence the new XR_Dxxx fixpaks
for Device Drivers.


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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Dec-99 17:11:04
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 15:23:03
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:16:25, Ron Vopicka
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> It would be helpful to me if you could tell me exactly what order you
> applied the fixes in.


I applied 8610 many moons ago (1 month after availibility) &
8620 as soon as it was available as it stabilized 8610 very
well.

I have NOT applied the new UN as the apar fix list doesn't
apply to me.  (The Y2k fixes have been available as single
fixes forever.)

As far as the state of my 16bit stack & MPTS when i
converted to 32 bit (i.e. applied 8610) i was up to date for
that time.

I do remember that the 8610 READMEs were quite involved.
Have you read them totally through at least twice???

Hope this helps,
HAPPY Y2K!!

Eric...

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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Dec-99 17:15:11
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 15:23:03
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

do a dejanews search

these issues were covered around the time 8610 & 8620 came
out.  a lot of it is minor tcp/ip configuration notebook
changes.

ALSO 8620 does indeed stabilize 8610 & may in fact easily
solve your problems.

Good luck!
HAPPY Y2k!!

Eric...

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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Dec-99 17:17:14
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 15:23:03
Subj: Re: Version 4.0 Stack fixes

From: [e-mail]

also, i'm at FP11 no DDpak.



On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:11:08, [e-mail] wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:16:25, Ron Vopicka
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Eric,
> >
> > It would be helpful to me if you could tell me exactly what order you
> > applied the fixes in.
>
>
> I applied 8610 many moons ago (1 month after availibility) &
> 8620 as soon as it was available as it stabilized 8610 very
> well.
>
> I have NOT applied the new UN as the apar fix list doesn't
> apply to me.  (The Y2k fixes have been available as single
> fixes forever.)
>
> As far as the state of my 16bit stack & MPTS when i
> converted to 32 bit (i.e. applied 8610) i was up to date for
> that time.
>
> I do remember that the 8610 READMEs were quite involved.
> Have you read them totally through at least twice???
>
> Hope this helps,
> HAPPY Y2K!!
>
> Eric...


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