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From: wwiv@pppproject.org 26-Nov-99 14:33:03
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:02
Subj: Plextor 6plex cd rom & Warp 4
From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>
does anyone know of or had any problems installing warp 4 under the Plextor
6plex cdrom drive?
Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
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From: cborg@camtech.net.au 27-Nov-99 14:22:09
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:02
Subj: Re: desktop problem
From: Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>
autofail=yes worked, thanks for your help. The window was headed "
Sys3900 System error Desktop" and the message inside was " drive A not
ready". I was not clear in my message.I wonder why this started
happening now. Incidentally Checkini also comes up with the message
"Drive A not read, and I have to insert a diskette or click on button to
return error to log for Checkini to procede .
Charles Borg
Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
>
> In article <383EAD2C.D0FBD334@camtech.net.au>,
> Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au> wrote:
> > I have a new problem. When the desktop starts to
> load I now get a
> > "Sys0039 System Error Desktop A not ready" I have
>
> I assume you meant "Diskette A," not "Desktop A."
> Anyway, my wild-ass guess is to add the following
> line to your CONFIG.SYS:
>
> AUTOFAIL=YES
>
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: us@appo.demon.co.uk 27-Nov-99 06:15:28
To: All 27-Nov-99 03:29:03
Subj: DIVE with VirgeDX card - not working.
From: "Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon" <us@appo.demon.co.uk>
Hi...
I cannot get any DIVE apps to work with my VirgeDX card. Anyone
achieved this?
Are there any diagnostic utilities for DIVE installations?
yours, Marcus.
--
Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon at the 'Appo Site'
Marcus: marcus@appo.demon.co.uk
Aviva: aviva@appo.demon.co.uk
Rhiannon: rhiannon@appo.demon.co.uk
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From: cborg@camtech.net.au 27-Nov-99 21:15:23
To: All 27-Nov-99 10:30:01
Subj: netscape 4.61 print problem
From: Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>
I have been encouraged by having previous problems solved on this list.
I have another problem. Netscape 4.61 one day stopped printing. I still
have the same printers installed . When I check printer jobs after
clicking the print icon this is empty although the system goes through
the motions of informing me that it is printing the appropriate pages.
At the moment I am copying to Enhanced Editor and printing from there.Is
there a solution to this? Thanks
Charles Borg
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From: gords@idirect.com 27-Nov-99 13:56:18
To: All 27-Nov-99 14:20:20
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI SOLVED!
From: Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com>
Gord Schindler wrote:
> Bug turned out to be a bad video driver. While zeroing in the bug I
> found out that my system worked ok in 256 colour mode but the failure
> would occur pretty solidly at anything higher. I have an S3 Virge/DX
> card and when I first installed this system, loaded a driver from the
> 'net, V1.03.17 dated in 1998. Yesterday I went looking for this or an
> updated driver but could find neither. I did find one at V1.03.11 dated
> in 1997. Downloaded and installed and it works perfectly at all
> resolutions. Maybe this will help someone else.
Gord Schindler
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From: "jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org 27-Nov-99 07:55:11
To: All 27-Nov-99 14:20:20
Subj: Re: Plextor 6plex cd rom & Warp 4
From: Jack Wise <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org>
I had no problems. Plextor has a long history of providing OS/2 drivers
and support. The OS/2 installation program will probably automatically
identify the CD-ROM but if not, you can select is during the install
process.
Jack Wise
Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
>
> does anyone know of or had any problems installing warp 4 under the Plextor
> 6plex cdrom drive?
>
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
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From: serwas@mindspring.com 27-Nov-99 11:39:04
To: anandk@in.ibm.com 27-Nov-99 14:20:21
Subj: Re: Okay guru's: Here's one for you
To: Anand Krishnamoorthy <anandk@in.ibm.com>
From: Mat Serwas <serwas@mindspring.com>
Greetings Anand,
I reinstalled again,,, same problem. I also installed the dd fixpak
from
indulible.
Looks like I must have a hardware problem but hardware manager shows
no conflicts.
Looks like it's back to FP9.
Thanks for your response.
Mat
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From: serwas@mindspring.com 27-Nov-99 11:51:07
To: zayne@omen.com.au 27-Nov-99 14:20:21
Subj: Re: Okay guru's: Here's one for you
To: Mooo <zayne@omen.com.au>
From: Mat Serwas <serwas@mindspring.com>
Greetings Craig,
Found rminfo.dll,,, dated 8/12/96,,,, don't know if there is an update
or another
version of it.
Hardware monitor shows no conflicts.
I run EMX which can be kind of quarky but 9d seems the best yet.
Thanks for your response.
Mat
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 27-Nov-99 13:48:07
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:11
Subj: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
Can I fix this?
Thanks for your help
Wolf Kirchmeir
If you didn't want to go to chicago,
why did you get on the train? (Anon.)
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From: wwiv@pppproject.org 27-Nov-99 14:26:07
To: All 27-Nov-99 16:56:12
Subj: Re: Plextor 6plex cd rom & warp 4
From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>
RE: Re: Plextor 6plex cd rom & Warp 4
BY: Jack Wise <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org>
>I had no problems. Plextor has a long history of providing OS/2 drivers
>and support. The OS/2 installation program will probably automatically
>identify the CD-ROM but if not, you can select is during the install
>process.
Hi, at least that's good to know.
I've not been able to install warp 4. It looks like the 1 of the 3 install
disks are bad. Tried making new ones from the CD, that didn't work. Looks
like I got both a bad install disk & CD. I bought the warp cd from someone in
ebay.
installation hung at the black screen after boot manager. there was an
error message on a file.
Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 28-Nov-99 00:49:22
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system.
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:41:55, Steve Drewell
<bd83h@bedford.waii.com> wrote:
[snip]
> Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. I
> often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks or months
> but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I didn't run
> Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an option as there
> is no viable alternative to Comm/2.
>
> So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has anyone
> else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to suspect that
> Comm/2 brings down their machine?
>
> Any advice will be appreciated.
>
1. Use nescape 2.02 for a browser, pronews for your
newsgroups and Postroad for your email - all viable and in
their own way better than Comm 4.61- I have had only had
problems with it.
2. For anyone that cares - there seems to be a slow
persistent leak of memory whilst using 4.61 and then there
is the stopped download problem eg I cannot retrieve Java
118 with 4.61 without it stopping without completion.
3. Machine details P75 with 128MB RAM, 2 x 1 GB IDE drives
IDE CD ROM. SCSI tape and SCSI HD, Boot manager with OS/2
booting from the SCSI drive (HPFS Format) WARP 4 with FP 9.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 28-Nov-99 00:17:02
To: All 28-Nov-99 00:25:05
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
->an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
->until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
->
->Can I fix this?
CHKDSK /F will remove any orphan EA's and reduce the size of the file if
any are misallocated. If it doesn't help then you really have that number
of EAs. The problem comes because each file that has an EA will allocate a
cluster of disk space to hold that EA. Each file that has more than one EA
will share the same cluster with the other EAs for that file (up until the
total exceeds the cluster size when another cluster will be allocated).
Separate files do not share EA clusters and each has its own.
On a FAT partition greater than 1GB the cluster size is 32KB so your 28MB
EA DATA. SF file means that you have approximately 890 files with an EA.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: rolf@together.net 27-Nov-99 22:33:17
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:27
Subj: JavaScript bug in String.search() in Communicator 4.61[de]-990915 for O
From: "Rolf Lochb?hler" <rolf@together.net>
It seems that the search method in the following HTML+JavaScript
code - which is an excerpt of an actual webpage - always returns
-1 in Netscape Communicator 4.61[de]-990915 for OS/2:
<html>
<head>
<title>Test of search method</title>
<script language="javascript">
function validate()
{
rc = document.forms[0].email.value.search(/[^\s@]+@[^\s@]+\.[^\s@]+/)
if( rc < 0 )
{
alert( "Invalid e-mail address" );
return false;
}
else
{
alert( "Valid e-mail address" );
return true;
}
}
</script>
</head>
<body>
<p>
Enter your email address:
</p>
<p>
<form onsubmit="return validate()">
<input type="text" name="email" size="40" maxlength="40" value="">
</form>
</p>
</body>
</html>
I also checked Netscape Communicator 4.06[en]-98225 for
Windows and Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.72.3110. Neither
of them shows this behavior. Also, Netscape 4.something
for AIX works fine.
By the way, using \@ instead of @ in the regular expression
didn't seem to make a difference. In the Windows browsers
both versions gave the same results, in the OS/2 browser
neither version didn't work.
rl
--
Rolf Lochbühler <rolf@together.net>
http://homepages.together.net/~rolf
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From: wwilly@one.net 21-Nov-99 20:54:09
To: All 28-Nov-99 04:44:28
Subj: Re: Balky ps/2 mouse
From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
In article <383836A0.968845E4@mindspring.com>,
Mat Serwas <serwas@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Have warp four with fixpak 12.
> Problem is a balky mouse.
<<<snip>>>
> I looked at all the n.g.'s and cud not find
anything
> on this behavior.
<<<snip>>>
Well, after you look again in the dictionary for the
spelling of the word "could," <:-)) I think you
should look in comp.os.os2.bugs again. Go to Deja
News & do a search on author Irv Spalten. Don't
search on the subject of Mouse. Look strictly for
posts from Irv within the past 2 months. He
explained in great detail that there was some mixup
in the way the mouse driver was installed. I think
it was in the Device Driver Fix Pack but I don't
really remember clearly.
WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon... 28-Nov-99 06:01:04
To: All 28-Nov-99 10:27:19
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net
From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
>Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. It was about 2.5-3MB, then I had
>an automatic reboot (bec. of a badly seated card, which did wierd things
>until I fixed it), and since then the EA file has been enormous.
>
>Can I fix this?
You can start by running CHKDSK /F on the FAT partition in question.
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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From: rascho@nospam.iname.com 28-Nov-99 14:57:24
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:28
Subj: Re: DIVE with VirgeDX card - not working.
From: "Rade Popovic" <rascho@nospam.iname.com>
On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:15:56 +0000, Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon wrote:
>I cannot get any DIVE apps to work with my VirgeDX card. Anyone
>achieved this?
Try using GRADD or SDD drivers, DIVE works fine here with those drivers
and Virge DX.
Rascho
e-mail:rascho@iname.com
ICQ# 49354974
------------------------
Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"
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From: abeagley@optonline.net 28-Nov-99 16:41:13
To: All 28-Nov-99 14:37:28
Subj: Re: netscape 4.61 print problem
From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>
I had that problem, but it went away after I shut down and rebooted.
Alan
Charles Borg wrote:
>
> I have been encouraged by having previous problems solved on this list.
> I have another problem. Netscape 4.61 one day stopped printing. I still
> have the same printers installed . When I check printer jobs after
> clicking the print icon this is empty although the system goes through
> the motions of informing me that it is printing the appropriate pages.
> At the moment I am copying to Enhanced Editor and printing from there.Is
> there a solution to this? Thanks
>
> Charles Borg
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 28-Nov-99 17:53:15
To: All 28-Nov-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 00:17:05 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
=>On Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:14 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
=>
=>->Ihave a 28MB EA file on my boot partition. ...snip..=>
=>CHKDSK /F will remove any orphan EA's and reduce the size of the file if
=>any are misallocated. If it doesn't help then you really have that number
=>of EAs. The problem comes because each file that has an EA will allocate a
=>cluster of disk space to hold that EA. Each file that has more than one EA
=>will share the same cluster with the other EAs for that file (up until the
=>total exceeds the cluster size when another cluster will be allocated).
=>Separate files do not share EA clusters and each has its own.
=>
=>On a FAT partition greater than 1GB the cluster size is 32KB so your 28MB
=>EA DATA. SF file means that you have approximately 890 files with an EA.
=>
=>
=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
=>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
=>
=>
=>
I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only. Since
this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the semi-crash, I
think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
So I think I still have a problem....
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From: fisa@jet.uk 29-Nov-99 08:51:02
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:15
Subj: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk>
HI
I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
Is it incompatible?
Regards
Filippo Sartori
Please mail me also.
Thanks
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From: dwparsons@t-online.de 29-Nov-99 08:20:03
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:15
Subj: Re: Trap 000e with Sun banner
From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:20:17, dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:57:22, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave Parsons wrote:
> > >
> > > I have once again received a trap 0008 when running the
> > > Sun JAVA banner advertisment at www.telegraph.co.uk.
> > >
> > > This is the displayed info
> > >
> > > Trap 0008
> >
>
> The banners appear to be allocated randomly and so it is difficult to
> repeat.
> It has happened to me 3 times now in the last month or so.
> It started to happen after I updated to FP 12 and JAVA 1.1.8. and
> Comm/2 4.61 GA but I don't know whether any of these are the problem
> since I had never seen the Sun ad. banner before either.
>
It has happened again but this time with a Trap 000e.
Same ad same URL, as soon as the Applet starts to scroll.
It occurred on the UK news page this time.
Here are the screen contents:-
Trap 000e ERRCD=0000 ERRCO=****
EAX=00000000 EBX=ffed1d94 ECX=00000000 EDX=00000004
ESI=109bbaa5 EDI=9b7f5e94 EBP=000058c0 FLG=00012246
CS:EIP=0168:fffa7412 CSACC=c09b CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0030:000058b0 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00004a7f
DS=0160 DSACC=c093 DSLIM=ffffffff CRO=8001001b
ES=0160 ESACC=c093 ESLIM=ffffffff CR2=109bbaa5
FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=********
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e
60000, 9084
0586052b
Internal revision 9.036, 99/07/20
This occurred at 07:30 am 29-Nov-1999 German time.
--
Dave
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From: cocke@catherders.com 29-Nov-99 06:26:05
To: All 29-Nov-99 10:04:16
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>
What's "Workspace for e-business"? If you meant "Warp Server for
E-Business", I've installed OD 2.0 on it. It doesn't work real well -
there's a real nifty way to crash a WSeB system dead in it (use Object
Navigator) - but most of it works. Stardock doesn't want to hear about
it, so I don't want to hear about Stardock anymore.
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:51:05 +0000, filippo sartori wrote:
>HI
>I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
>I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
>Is it incompatible?
>
>Regards
>
>Filippo Sartori
>
>Please mail me also.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
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Please note: My Email and web page addresses are changing in January
2000.
The new email address is cocke@catherders.com
The web page is at http://www.catherders.com
Because network administration is like herding cats.
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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net 29-Nov-99 10:55:03
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:20
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net
In <81uaa1$89011@imsp212.netvigator.com>, on 11/30/99
at 12:40 AM, "Kelvin Tsang" <ktkelvin@yahoo.com> said:
>You mean the Warp Server for e-business ?
>I am using it with OD 2.0, just follow the
>installation instruction, and it works fine
>here. (Except the Drive Navigator, it sometimes
>cause WPS freeze, so I removed this feature now).
Also, don't install Object Advisor during a fresh install. You need to
selective install it later.
HTH,
Steven
--
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Steven Levine <steve53removethis@earthlink.net> MR2/ICE 2.01 #10183
Warp4/FP11
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From: arnews@dsgml.com 29-Nov-99 13:19:23
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Odin a5 doesn't work
From: Ariel <arnews@dsgml.com>
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 wpooh*NOSPAM*@c3.freemail.hu wrote:
> I installed Odin alpha 5 on my warp 4 nofp.
IIRC you need to install a fix pack, I recommend the latest one, although
I think you can get away with an earlier one. If you remember way back
when lotus smart suite distributed a special fix pack for Open32, which
was then integrated with the main fix packs - the point where it became
part of the main fix packs is the one you need at minimum - but I strongly
recommend that if you're installing one, go for the latest version.
-Ariel
> When I try to start a win32 program a message box appears which is
> titled 'Odin' saying that the kernel32.dll couldn't be loaded/found.
> I installed the win32k.sys device.
> The problem is not related to the way I try to start win32 progs
> neither 'pe win32exe' nor 'win32exe' typed work.
> Any idea?
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From: rrkurtz@us.ibm.com 29-Nov-99 12:31:01
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Trap 0008 with Java 1.1.8
From: Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com>
Ref: Append at 08:23:24 on 99/11/25 +0100 (by dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave
Parsons)
Works okay for me and I have the same level of code as you. I checked my
Netscape OS/2 Preferences and I have:
Java PAth set to D:\JAVA11\DLL\JAVAI.DLL
Java Options is blank
Java Classpath I have Ignore system Classpath checked
Enter optional Classpath is blank
Append to the end of the system Classpath is selected
Cyrrent Classpath is blank.
> I have once again received a trap 0008 when running the
> Sun JAVA banner advertisment at www.telegraph.co.uk.
>
> This is the displayed info
>
> Trap 0008
> EAX=0022e000 EBX=9bba7bc0 ECX=00000028 EDX=9bc4735c
> ESI=9bba7c24 EDI=ff38064c EBP=00005814 FLG=00012082
> CS:EIP=0168:fff45856 SS:ESP=0030:00005360
> DS=0160
> ES=0160
> FS=0000
> GS=0000
> The system has detected an internal processing error
> at ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e
>
> The trap occurred as the banner started to scroll.
>
> Using W4 FP12, Java 1.1.8 + latest fixes, and
> Communicator 4.61 GA.
Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 29-Nov-99 00:56:11
To: All 29-Nov-99 16:52:21
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only. Since
->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the semi-crash,
I
->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
->
->So I think I still have a problem....
How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: greywolf@onlink.net 29-Nov-99 19:37:28
To: All 29-Nov-99 21:21:09
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
=>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
=>
=>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
=>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
=>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
=>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
=>->
=>->So I think I still have a problem....
=>
=>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
=>
=>
=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
=>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
=>
=>
=>
Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
partition.
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 30-Nov-99 04:54:14
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:13
Subj: Re: netscape quietly quitting
From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>
Richard A Crane wrote:
>
> > The only site that I have seen the shows this problem is IBM's. .
> > [ ... ]
> > --
> >
>
> I too have only had a problem with Netscape and IBM sites.
> However my memory seems to insidiously disappear whilst
> running Netscape 4.6.
I must amend my statement. Today I had a couple of downloads quit
in the middle. And it was not from IBM's site. I guess I was just
(un?)lucky before.
--
sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email
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From: itang@hkjc.org.hk 30-Nov-99 14:21:29
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:14
Subj: fix pack installaton
From: "Ivan Tang" <itang@hkjc.org.hk>
Dear all,
I am trying to install an OS2 fix pack in the computers in our LAN. In order
to minimize the possible interpution to our users, I am using
the unattended mode and a response file to install the fix pack.
My question is: At the end of the installation, it prompts the users
to enter ctrl-alt-del to restart the computer. After rebooting
the PC, the fix pack installation program, fservice.exe, is still running. I
just wonder how to make this fservice.exe to terminated by
itself? I have read books about the CID installation, and found
that there is a key word "RebootRequired" could make the PC to restart
itself by adding it into the response file, but the
response file comes with the fix pack did not allow me to add such
word, what have I done wrong?
Thanks in advance,
Victor
email: victor.hw.tang@hkjc.org.hk
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com 30-Nov-99 00:26:19
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:14
Subj: Re: netscape quietly quitting
From: lifedata@xxvol.com
James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:
>> I too have only had a problem with Netscape and IBM sites.
>I must amend my statement. Today I had a couple of downloads quit in
>the middle. And it was not from IBM's site. I guess I was just (un?)lucky
>before.
As I said, it is definitely a known problem, and they have tracked it to a
problem in TCP/IP in which a false "end of download" signal gets generated
from somewhere.
Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
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From: steveef@att.net 30-Nov-99 06:38:11
To: All 30-Nov-99 03:28:14
Subj: Get Paid While You Surf The Web!! 9391
From: steveef@att.net
Get paid while you surf the web here:
http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=FCJ475
uyxug
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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com 30-Nov-99 07:52:23
To: All 30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>
Hi,
Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
The *typical* error log is reproduced as follows:
11-28-1999 11:47:06 SYS3175 PID 0033 TID 0002 Slot 0081
D:\PMMAIL\PMMAIL.EXE
c0000005
000af22a
P1=00000001 P2=00000000 P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=00000000
ESI=00000000 EDI=00afa6a0
DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:000af22a CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00e6fb08 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00e6fb0c FLG=00012246
PMMAIL.EXE 0001:0009f22a
Regards,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: dwparsons@t-online.de 30-Nov-99 09:32:06
To: All 30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: Re: Trap 0008 with Java 1.1.8
From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:31:03, Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Ref: Append at 08:23:24 on 99/11/25 +0100 (by dwparsons@t-online.de
(Dave Parsons)
>
> Works okay for me and I have the same level of code as you. I checked my
> Netscape OS/2 Preferences and I have:
>
> Java PAth set to D:\JAVA11\DLL\JAVAI.DLL
> Java Options is blank
> Java Classpath I have Ignore system Classpath checked
> Enter optional Classpath is blank
> Append to the end of the system Classpath is selected
> Cyrrent Classpath is blank.
> Dick Kurtz
> eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.
Thanks for the reply.
Did you actually see the Sun Java advertisement scrolling?
Your settings are the same apart from the 'Append to the end...'
I have 'Ignore changes to classpath'.
I have also received a mail from Scott saying that he thinks that
the problem could be hardware. I guess it could be, but why only
with that one Java applet? I am not experiencing any other problems.
Anywhy, I have now disabled Java and Javascript and will wait until
that ad comes round again and if is doesn't crash the system I will
try to capture the page and all the relevant files.
One problem is that it does not appear very often, so checking ideas
is rather slow but, when it does appear it always produces a system
crash of some kind. Monday morning seems to be its favorite:-(
--
Dave
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From: martin.brown@pandora.be 30-Nov-99 08:45:15
To: All 30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>
Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> =>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:53:31 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
> =>
> =>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
> =>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
> =>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
> =>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
> =>->
> =>->So I think I still have a problem....
> =>
> =>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?
>
> =>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> =>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>
> Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
> partition.
Suggests around 24MB in EAs then. If you *must* use FAT then you could halve
the size
lost to infernal attributes by repartitioning down to 255MB or if there are
lots of
small files have two partitions both of 127MB. If you are feeling brave then
Partition Magic and the like can twiddle with partitions on the fly, but your
EAs
might be mangled in the process. Definitely you need a backup before doing any
radical restructuring. It can even (irreversibly) convert FAT to HPFS.
If your EAs are already corrupted from a crash things may well become
unstable.
Regards,
Martin Brown
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From: bnc@webone.com.au 30-Nov-99 22:22:21
To: All 30-Nov-99 10:24:19
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: bnc@webone.com.au
In <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
>times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
>
Doug,
This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of emails?
About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
Brian
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From: ktkelvin@yahoo.com 30-Nov-99 00:40:28
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: "Kelvin Tsang" <ktkelvin@yahoo.com>
You mean the Warp Server for e-business ?
I am using it with OD 2.0, just follow the
installation instruction, and it works fine
here. (Except the Drive Navigator, it sometimes
cause WPS freeze, so I removed this feature now).
Kelvin
--
#-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-#
Hong Kong OS/2 User Group
http://www.os2.org.hk
news://news.freeforum.org/comp.os.os2
#-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-#
filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk> wrote in message
news:38423E79.52EC5175@jet.uk...
> HI
> I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
> I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
> Is it incompatible?
>
> Regards
>
> Filippo Sartori
>
> Please mail me also.
>
> Thanks
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From: anandk_km@hotmail.com 29-Nov-99 21:25:07
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: NS/2 error factory - HELP!
From: Anand Krishnamoorthy <anandk_km@hotmail.com>
lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> I just had a look at my popup.log file. It seems that Netscape sometimes
> gets VERY surly about shutting down. I just got the following errors on
> the following, all at one shot, when shutting it down - plus one unnamed
> one. It seems this has happened every now and then - perhaps a specific
> site?
I believe there was a bug in which netscape 4.04 trapped when the system was
shutdown(with Netscape open). The fix has been included as a part of the
netscape fixpack.
Anand K
OS/2 Base Support Team, IBM.
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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au 29-Nov-99 16:25:05
To: All 30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: Re: netscape quietly quitting
From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:00:29, James Moe
<sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fritz Oppliger wrote:
> >
> > NS Navigator 4.61 cheats on downloads in a most insidious way. it quietly
> > quits.
> >
> > I know others have seen this problem.
> >
> > Is this being addressed? which chains do I rattle?
> >
> The only site that I have seen the shows this problem is IBM's. I
> have had multiple downloads running from other sites without a problem.
> In general I have found that mid-afternoon (MST) seems to be the best
> time for IBM downloads. I have seen then quiet termination using a T1
> connection to the Internet as well as a modem connection. Generally I
> use FTP directly or WGET if I do not have a choice between FTP and HTTP
> in Navigator; HTTP seems to be more reliable in this respect.
> There were some discussions about this, then silence after the GA
> release. I get the impression it is a problem with the AIX operating
> system's FTPD server, or whatever acts in that capacity (like part of a
> web server).
>
> --
>
> sma at rtd dot com
> Remove ".spam-not" for email
I too have only had a problem with Netscape and IBM sites.
However my memory seems to insidiously disappear whilst
running Netscape 4.6.
I note that I've seen posts from 2 of the IBM netscape team
on comp.os.os2.bugs recently hence the ading of it to this
thread.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 30-Nov-99 10:11:18
To: All 30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>
On <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/30/99 at 07:52 AM,
Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:
> Hi,
> Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
Yep. Chuck that piece of feces for MR2 Ice.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.0 Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: mikus@bga.com 30-Nov-99 15:23:25
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: WSeB DOS Failure
From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)
Recently wanted to run a DOS program in WSeB. But the DOS window
won't scroll !!! Instead, PMSHELL.EXE gets a SYS3170 error.
Anyone else see the same problem ? (Just do a 'dir' in a DOS
session and see if the lines scroll upward once the screen gets
filled.)
mikus (Matrox G200, even with WSeB VGA driver !!!)
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From: sonic@sega.net 30-Nov-99 22:26:05
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: Grabbit two now available for FREE 5842
From: sonic@sega.net
This amazing little has now got a whole lot better, and Costech is please to
offer it to our friends for free. Enjoy the power
http://www.costech.com/Products/Grabit/grabit.html
pyxlojuxizqdgmnvqdgvezlzuhlwxumfuxjednefylfvxzjcmvoqqynvvdxldjkw
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 30-Nov-99 21:17:12
To: All 30-Nov-99 19:49:24
Subj: Re: Huge EA file
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:37:56 +0000, Wolf Kirchmeir wrote:
->=>->I did a CHKDSK /F on it, but it reduced the EA file by about 1MB only.
Since
->=>->this system partition had a much smaller EA .SF file before the
semi-crash, I
->=>->think the file has been corrupted soemhow -- ie, it contains a lot of
->=>->garbage, or maybe duplicate entries or something.
->=>->
->=>->So I think I still have a problem....
->=>
->=>How big is the partition and how many files do you have on it?->=>
->=>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
->
->Partition is 300MB FAT (8K sectors), with about 3,000 files. It's the boot
->partition.
That would imply that *every* file on the disk has an EA attached to it
(3584 x 8192 = ~28MB). This should show up if you run DIR on the disk (may
require the /N switch) and look at the fourth column. Any non-zero value
here is the number of EAs for that file. Have you run a program that's
gone through all your files and attached EAs to them all?
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 30-Nov-99 17:09:05
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system.
From: Steve Drewell <bd83h@bedford.waii.com>
On 28 Nov 1999, Richard A Crane wrote:
ε 1. Use nescape 2.02 for a browser, pronews for your
ε newsgroups and Postroad for your email - all viable and in
ε their own way better than Comm 4.61- I have had only had
ε problems with it.
Comm 4.61 is used purely for browsing. I use MR/2 ICE for both email and
news.
ε 2. For anyone that cares - there seems to be a slow
ε persistent leak of memory whilst using 4.61 and then there
ε is the stopped download problem eg I cannot retrieve Java
ε 118 with 4.61 without it stopping without completion.
Why not use Awget (available on hobbes)? It (and wget, obviously) are two
of the most useful pieces of software I use on a frequent basis. I hardly
ever download anything using Comm 4.61 anymore.
Steve
Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK
Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404
Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517
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From: jim.backus@gecm.com 30-Nov-99 17:24:03
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Jim Backus <jim.backus@gecm.com>
bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
>
> In <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> >times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
> >
>
> Doug,
> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
problems.
--
===
Jim Backus jim.backus@gecm.com
Systems engineer Tel +44 1245 702702 ext 2577
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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk 30-Nov-99 18:48:24
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:
>bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
>>
>>
>> Doug,
>> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
>> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
>> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
>
>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
>problems.
>
I'd also like to know what "full" is. Some of my folders have 1200+
messages in them. I guess I ought to archive them properly some day.
Dave
--
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!
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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com 30-Nov-99 15:35:11
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:
:>
:>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
:>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
:>problems.
:>
I'd like to know what you mean by "full" also. I have several folders with a
few thousand messages in each. In case you are wondering, they are archives
from several mailing lists that I keep for reference. Very handy I might
add. I have had to reindex a few folders. I usually do it when I click on a
folder and no messages appear. Reindexing fixes it.
Chris Stumpf
C.S.E. Computer Services
Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
Serenity Systems Channel Partner
IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
web: http://cse.anterras.net
email: cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)918-2480
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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com 30-Nov-99 20:15:23
To: All 01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Bug in new PKZIP/PKUNZIP for DOS?
From: mike.luther@ziplog.com
As you may find out, the old version of PKZIP and PKUNZIP for DOS
version 2.04G needs to be fixed for Y2K ..
I've noticed a curious deal on it in using the PKUNZIP version 2.50 for
DOS which I'd like somebody to confirm if they can.
When you rebuild a complete directory with the subdirectories that was
prepared with the:
PKZIP -rp& ... options ...
and use the creation option:
PKUNZIP -d ....
Lo and behold in at least one of my files directory utilities programs,
the color splotch indicating that it is a directory and not a file, is
now missing!
The directory is there, it reports as a directory or subdirectory, but
it no longer has something in it which was used to ID it as a directory
or subdirectory!
You can switch to it. You can do what you want with it. You can use
XCOPY in OS/2 to create a clone of it all, including all the other
recursed subdirectories. The clone will have the right attributes for
the utilities programs to display it as before! You can remove the
created directory or subdirectory that PKUNZIP built. You can create it
again from the cloned version with XCOPY /S or some other file manager
such as FF in OS/2 .. Poof, the attribute is back and all is normal!
What is PKUNZIP for DOS version 2.50 doing that utilities do not like?
At first I thought that it was telling your that an archive was created
by an older version, such as 2.04G, and thus able to alert you that it
might not be Y2K compatible. However that is not true that I can tell.
Archives created with the old 2.04G or 2.50 and rebuilt from 2.04G do
not have this curious 'feature'.
?
--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)
Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org
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From: cjhrph@mindspring.com 30-Nov-99 20:47:14
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: Re: fix pack installaton
From: Christopher J Houle <cjhrph@mindspring.com>
Ivan Tang wrote:
>
>
> My question is: At the end of the installation, it prompts the users
> to enter ctrl-alt-del to restart the computer.
A typical day with OS/2
> After rebooting
> the PC, the fix pack installation program, fservice.exe, is still running. I
> just wonder how to make this fservice.exe to terminated by
> itself? I have read books about the CID installation, and found
> that there is a key word "RebootRequired"
Im not suprised
what have I done wrong?
You purchased OS/2
>
> Thanks in advance,
Thank IBM
>
>
> Victor
> email: victor.hw.tang@hkjc.org.hk
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From: bnc@webone.com.au 01-Dec-99 17:36:23
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: bnc@webone.com.au
In <abbaryybaqryqrzbapbhx.fm1bhc4.pminews@sharra.llondel.demon.co.uk>, "Dave
{Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk> writes:
>On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:
>
>>bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug,
>>> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
>>> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
>>> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
>>
>>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
>>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
>>problems.
>>
>I'd also like to know what "full" is. Some of my folders have 1200+
>messages in them. I guess I ought to archive them properly some day.
'tis amazing what some people will pick up on. By 'Full' could I have meant
LARGE i.e. contians lots of mails.
OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500 in
and one with 900.
So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase that?>.
The point of the post was 'try reindexing'.
Thanks.......Brian
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From: i.hate.spam@dont.even.try 01-Dec-99 00:17:22
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: WSeB DOS Failure
From: "Rick Yoder" <i.hate.spam@dont.even.try>
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:23:51 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>Recently wanted to run a DOS program in WSeB. But the DOS window
>won't scroll !!! Instead, PMSHELL.EXE gets a SYS3170 error.
>
>Anyone else see the same problem ? (Just do a 'dir' in a DOS
>session and see if the lines scroll upward once the screen gets
>filled.)
>
>mikus (Matrox G200, even with WSeB VGA driver !!!)
>
The ANSI.SYS device driver in WSeB is broken. You can fix the problem
by replacing ANSI.SYS with an older copy from a Warp Server 4 or
Warp 4 client system.
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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl 30-Nov-99 09:01:28
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Pmmerge 9.30 (from testcase) errors
From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>
For the fixpack people:
The latest? pmmerge.dll 1.220.785 16-11-1999
Signature: @#IBM:9.30#@ OS/2 PM Merged Library
VENDOR: IBM
REVISION: 9.30
FILE VERSION: 9.30
gives after two weeks use just two errors:
------------------------------------------------------------
11-24-1999 13:29:01 SYS3175 PID 0194 TID 0001 Slot 0066
C:\PROGRAM.MAP\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1be382e6
P1=00000001 P2=0000007c P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=13e8af50
ESI=007c49f0 EDI=007c0004
DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1be382e6 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c4994 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c49c4 FLG=00012202
PMMERGE.DLL 0004:001382e6
------------------------------------------------------------
11-24-1999 13:29:44 SYS3175 PID 0008 TID 000f Slot 0033
C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
c0000005
1bdf8ca0
P1=00000000 P2=ffffffff P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=5b10c483 EBX=00000f90 ECX=179bcc84 EDX=179eef80
ESI=009f1f18 EDI=00000000
DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1bdf8ca0 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00a7ef2c SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00a7efc8 FLG=00012246
PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000f8ca0
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From: willem@horizontes-informatica.com 01-Dec-99 08:10:16
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: WSeB DOS Failure
From: "Willem Clements" <willem@horizontes-informatica.com>
Works OK here
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:23:51 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>Recently wanted to run a DOS program in WSeB. But the DOS window
>won't scroll !!! Instead, PMSHELL.EXE gets a SYS3170 error.
>
>Anyone else see the same problem ? (Just do a 'dir' in a DOS
>session and see if the lines scroll upward once the screen gets
>filled.)
>
>mikus (Matrox G200, even with WSeB VGA driver !!!)
>
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From: idawson@montupetuk.co.uk 01-Dec-99 11:50:05
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
Hi,
I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
running
Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
about
30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
process again.
Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
Thanks.
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From: nick@secant.com 01-Dec-99 09:26:17
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>
In <3844c1fe.0@iridium.webone.com.au>, on 12/01/99
at 05:36 PM, bnc@webone.com.au said:
>OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500
>in and one with 900. So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase
>that?>.
Wow, I've seen a couple of posts about "large" folders quoting 1200 or
under. A mutated quote from Crocodile Dundee comes to mind. "That's not
large!"
I thought MR/2 was bad by starting to get pokey after 1-2-3000 messages.
At 10,000 messages in a folder, it was downright unusable. Yet some users
insisted on using it for LARGE archives. Of course, with the ability to
ZIP folders, it made this a little more practical.
Anyway, one of the HUGE enhancements in the MR/2 v2.0 release was just
this ... massively improved performance for large folders. My 13,000
message test folder now opens in a couple of seconds and is fully
functional. Faster systems than mine will be even faster <gasp!>.
I now have at least one user approaching the OS/2 (custom) control's limit
of 32,000 messages. I will be able to increase this to 64k-1 messages,
easily, but I get the impression I've outdone the other guy as it is now.
Of course, most of the fun in this is gone, as is the other guy, for all
practical purposes.
Nick
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc. http://www.secant.com
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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com 01-Dec-99 14:49:03
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>
In article <3843e94b$9$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>,
Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> wrote:
> On <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/30/99 at 07:52 AM,
> Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing
several
> > times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
>
> Yep. Chuck that piece of feces for MR2 Ice.
>
Hmm. I've never tried MR2 Ice, although I understand it's a good mail
client. What are its advantages compared to PMMail, in your opinion?
Doug
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com 01-Dec-99 14:54:26
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>
In article <3843b382.0@iridium.webone.com.au>,
> Doug,
> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots
>of emails?
> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the
>folders get full.
> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a
>486
>
> Brian
Yes, my folders are large, typically with 1500-3000 msgs in each one.
I have numerous accounts and folders all in systematic hierarchies. To
re-index would be a royal PITA, but one which I suspect I would have to
try since there is an amazing lack of useful suggestions (yours and the
other followups on this thread not withstanding). ;-)
Well, wish me luck...
Doug
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: AsbjornPettersen@dualog.no 01-Dec-99 15:36:15
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn?= Pettersen <AsbjornPettersen@dualog.no>
Ian Dawson wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> running
> Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
>
> After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> about
> 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> process again.
>
> Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
>
> Thanks.
OS/2 work on my CDS300 with boot manager (OS/2 and linux)
I found a OS/2 FAQ for my laptop and i'm sure that there was one for 300CDT
too.
Try to search for it on web.
I'll guess that you problem is caused by the CDROM or "VGA card".
Good luck
Asbjoern
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 01-Dec-99 14:49:20
To: All 01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> running
> Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
>
> After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> about
> 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> process again.
>
> Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
another partition that can be used to install OS/2
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: rime.saad@natrel.ca 01-Dec-99 13:51:06
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:37:29
Subj: How do I install fixpack 11 ?
From: Rime Saad <rime.saad@natrel.ca>
Hello
How do I install fixpack 11 ? I downloaded the fixpack from the IBM FTP
site, and the file had the extention ".sh". I do not know how to
install such a file
Thank you
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From: sh0dan@ZZZvoxpod.dk 01-Dec-99 17:22:17
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:37:29
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: sh0dan@ZZZvoxpod.dk (sh0dan)
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:52:46, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
I got several crashes of exactly the same crashes (same locations and
all).
Very annoying, and there is no way to reproduce them, just happends at
random.
/sh0dan.
Doing Java Code for VoxPod Enterprises.
[email reply: Remove uppercase characters from my email address]
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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk 01-Dec-99 18:46:11
To: All 01-Dec-99 20:38:00
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:26:35 -0500, Nick Knight wrote:
>In <3844c1fe.0@iridium.webone.com.au>, on 12/01/99
> at 05:36 PM, bnc@webone.com.au said:
>
>>OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500
>>in and one with 900. So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase
>>that?>.
>
>Wow, I've seen a couple of posts about "large" folders quoting 1200 or
>under. A mutated quote from Crocodile Dundee comes to mind. "That's not
>large!"
>
Depends on what you consider practical - when certain folders get too
big I move some of the contents to other folders so I have to spend
less time searching when I need to reference an old email.
Dave
--
mail da ve@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!
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From: josco@sea.monterey.edu 01-Dec-99 15:47:15
To: rime.saad@natrel.ca 01-Dec-99 21:37:12
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?
To: Rime Saad <rime.saad@natrel.ca>
From: josco <josco@sea.monterey.edu>
http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html
http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey/
(links above document how I came to this web page below)
http://www.os2voice.org/ez-reference/fixpak.html I followed the directions
for an install off my hard drive, not floppy disks which takes too long
while this went quickly. It was easy. I installed FP11.
The fixpack files came from this ftp site.
ftp://service.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr_m011/
My advice is to be sure to at least run chkdsk prior to the install to be
sure not to have any disk errors. I have my system boot with the HPFS
automatically checking my drives. It seems easier than booting off the
floppies and running chkdsk. You can modify the CONFIG.SYS file line
where the cache is installed. You add '+' signs in front of all cached
disks i.e. +c+d+e
OS/2 Help will give you the correct symantics -- search help for "cache"
to see the exact syntax. "Help cache"
After the system is okay and running you can edit and remove the forced
chkdsk if that slows down boot time.
-- joseph
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Rime Saad wrote:
> Hello
>
> How do I install fixpack 11 ? I downloaded the fixpack from the IBM FTP
> site, and the file had the extention ".sh". I do not know how to
> install such a file
>
> Thank you
>
>
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From: operagost@e-mail.com 01-Dec-99 23:45:19
To: All 01-Dec-99 21:37:12
Subj: Netscape 4.61, Smartsuite won't print to JetDirect attached printers
From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" <operagost@e-mail.com>
After having Netscape 4.61 since it came out, just this week it suddenly
stopped being able to print to either of my HP JetDirect EX attached printers.
One is a LaserJet II, the other is an Epson Stylus Color 1520.
Smartsuite apps won't print either. I CAN print from EPM and PMView. What the
heck's going on here? The print jobs do appear in the queue, then disappear
after a few seconds.
--
----------------------------------
Stephen Eickhoff
Havertown, PA
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 01-Dec-99 20:21:21
To: All 01-Dec-99 21:37:12
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10 -0000, Ian Dawson wrote:
->Hi,
-> I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
->running
->Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
->
->After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
->about
->30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
->process again.
->
->Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
On the first diskette? Try making a new one from the CD using CDINST.BAT
and use that instead - maybe the disk is corrupt.
Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: mikus@bga.com 01-Dec-99 19:09:00
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:27:29
Subj: Re: WSeB DOS Failure
From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)
Thanks, Rick -- that fixed the problem.
Is there anyplace where such WSeB "gotcha's" have been written down?
mikus
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:17:45 -0500 (EST) "Rick Yoder"
<i.hate.spam@dont.even.try> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:23:51 -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>
> >Recently wanted to run a DOS program in WSeB. But the DOS window
> >won't scroll !!! Instead, PMSHELL.EXE gets a SYS3170 error.
> >
> >Anyone else see the same problem ? (Just do a 'dir' in a DOS
> >session and see if the lines scroll upward once the screen gets
> >filled.)
> >
> >mikus (Matrox G200, even with WSeB VGA driver !!!)
> >
>
> The ANSI.SYS device driver in WSeB is broken. You can fix the problem
> by replacing ANSI.SYS with an older copy from a Warp Server 4 or
> Warp 4 client system.
>
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From: fleggett@dakota.gate.net 01-Dec-99 20:42:28
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:27:29
Subj: Warp 4 crashed - need some files.
From: fleggett@dakota.gate.net (Fred Leggett)
I hate to ask this, but my warp 4 client crashed on me recently
(while running comm 4.61xr). When chkdsk was invoked, it removed several
files that I'm unable to recover without doing a reinstall (at least, I
can't find them on the cd). Could someone forward to me the following
files? Remember, this is for warp 4.0:
\OS2\HELP\EPM.HLP
\MMOS2\SOUNDS\SONATACR.MID
\MMOS2\HELP\SVMCH.HLP
\OS2\DLL\LASERJET\wordper1.fnt
That last file is crucial, as I'm currently unable to print anything, and
I suspect the absence of the wordper1.fnt file is the cause. Thanks!
P.S.: These are the files removed as reported in chkdsk.log.
--
---
Fred Leggett - fleggett@gate.net
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From: hoseltons@sympatico.ca 02-Dec-99 02:20:10
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:27:29
Subj: Trap Help!
From: hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton)
Does anyone know what a trap 000e is
I am getting an internal error at
##016:fff4832e-000e:c32e
Any help would be great. This is getting as bad as
running windows it is crashing so often and without
reason
Norm
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 02-Dec-99 03:10:27
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:27:29
Subj: Re: Trap Help!
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 02:20:20, hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton)
wrote:
> Does anyone know what a trap 000e is
> I am getting an internal error at
> ##016:fff4832e-000e:c32e
> Any help would be great. This is getting as bad as
> running windows it is crashing so often and without
> reason
>
We need to see the entire trap screen.
The error location does not mean much without
the rest of the screen.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: jdparker@erols.com 01-Dec-99 22:51:27
To: All 02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
Lorne Sunley wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> > running
> > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> >
> > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and after
> > about
> > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > process again.
> >
> > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
>
> If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
>
> The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> another partition that can be used to install OS/2
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley
You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that
came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and
found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The issue
is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one that
was
originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from the
same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0 length
and
inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is that
there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive visible
at
any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than Boot
Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
primaries.
Jim
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From: reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com 02-Dec-99 11:12:26
To: All 02-Dec-99 12:07:28
Subj: Re: Trap Help!
From: Wim Wauters <reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com>
Norm Hoselton wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what a trap 000e is
AFAIK trapE indicates a hardware problem with the memory
(RAM or cache).
If you're trouble is totally random, it must be hardware
related. Software errors are predictable and repeatable,
hardware problems might not be.
1) try slowing down your SIMMS or DIMMS (i.e. RAM memory,
BIOS settings)
2) try slowing down or disabling 'level 2' cache memory (aka
'external cache')
> Any help would be great. This is getting as bad as
> running windows
I agree. The one reason running OS/2 is that it doesn't
crash 'randomly', that is you can track the crash down to a
hardware component or an application or single DLL.
So...
3) look in your log (or think hard) to find when you
introduced the last software change (upgrade or new install)
of applications or fixpacks and if this coincides with the
start of your trouble. If you do not have a log, start one
now, it is really useful when you want to manage your OS,
rather than 'try reinstalling everything every time'.
4) use the Warp's error log (like in WinNT): assistance
centre - trouble shooting - problem determination tools -
system error log. When you see a long list of PMmerge.DLL or
DosCall1.DLL exceptions, that just means you're running
fixpack12 (aka bugpack12 or fixpack12alpha). My favourite
fixpack is #9.
5) use the tracker tool (found in the vicinity of the
system error log), I do not know how to use it, but I know
it's on the web somewhere. Also the tracker is a debug aid
for applications (hence it will monitor suspicious
applications and is no good when hardware is involved)
Good Luck !
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 02-Dec-99 08:39:12
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>
On <823cgq$dgr$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 12/01/99 at 02:49 PM,
Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:
> Hmm. I've never tried MR2 Ice, although I understand it's a good mail
> client. What are its advantages compared to PMMail, in your opinion?
Speed. Reliability. Continuing development. Active participation by the
author with users via email.
--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 02-Dec-99 09:14:14
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)
Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> wrote:
(schnip)
>Of course, most of the fun in this is gone, as is the other guy, for all
>practical purposes.
>
>Nick
Now, now, Nick, don't you think it's a bit early to start
throwing stones? That's what they used to say that about
you, remember... I believe they're working on it.
Btw, for anyone who's interested in PMMail, the best place
to post questions and feedback is the PMMail listserv. To
subscribe, send a message to <listar@rpglink.com> with the
command "subscribe pmmail" in the body of the message.
--
Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
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From: nospam@here.please 02-Dec-99 10:31:12
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: QUESTION: OBJECTDESKTOP ON WSEB?
From: "Walter Metcalf" <nospam@here.please>
I suggest you try the OD Support Group at
news://news.Stardock.com/stardock.os2.support
Brad Wardell et. al. monitor this group.
Walter Metcalf
Focus on OS/2
http://os2.about.com
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:51:05 +0000, filippo sartori wrote:
>HI
>I tried to install Object Desktop 2.0 on Workspace for e-business.
>I failed. Did anybody succeeded?
>Is it incompatible?
>
>Regards
>
>Filippo Sartori
>
>Please mail me also.
>
>Thanks
>
>
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com 02-Dec-99 09:08:28
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?
From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
josco wrote:
>
> http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html
> http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey/
> (links above document how I came to this web page below)
>
> http://www.os2voice.org/ez-reference/fixpak.html I followed the directions
> for an install off my hard drive, not floppy disks which takes too long
> while this went quickly. It was easy. I installed FP11.
>
> The fixpack files came from this ftp site.
>
ftp://service.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr_m011/
>
> My advice is to be sure to at least run chkdsk prior to the install to be
> sure not to have any disk errors. I have my system boot with the HPFS
> automatically checking my drives. It seems easier than booting off the
> floppies and running chkdsk. You can modify the CONFIG.SYS file line
> where the cache is installed. You add '+' signs in front of all cached
> disks i.e. +c+d+e
>
> OS/2 Help will give you the correct symantics -- search help for "cache"
> to see the exact syntax. "Help cache"
>
> After the system is okay and running you can edit and remove the forced
> chkdsk if that slows down boot time.
I suggest installing fixpack 12 rather than fixpack 11. Fixpack 11 had
a problem with HPFS and required downleveling to fixpack 10 HPFS files
(the fix was on Hobbes.) I download the floppy files and make the
floppyies with loaddskf.exe and then install them with the corrective
service tool from an OS/2 window. It's a little more trouble to make
floppies than doing the RSU update but also a little more secure, imo.
>
> -- joseph
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Rime Saad wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > How do I install fixpack 11 ? I downloaded the fixpack from the IBM FTP
> > site, and the file had the extention ".sh". I do not know how to
> > install such a file
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com 02-Dec-99 09:49:19
To: All 02-Dec-99 15:58:13
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
Jim Parker wrote:
>
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM) currently
> > > running
> > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > >
> > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > about
> > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > process again.
> > >
> > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> >
> > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> >
> > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
>
> You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that
> came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and
> found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one that
was
> originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
>
> The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
> partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0 length
and
> inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> primaries.
>
I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
> Jim
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From: jim.backus@gecm.com 02-Dec-99 18:13:28
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: Re: Trap Help!
From: Jim Backus <jim.backus@gecm.com>
Wim Wauters wrote:
>
> Norm Hoselton wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what a trap 000e is
> AFAIK trapE indicates a hardware problem with the memory
> (RAM or cache).
> If you're trouble is totally random, it must be hardware
> related. Software errors are predictable and repeatable,
> hardware problems might not be.
> 1) try slowing down your SIMMS or DIMMS (i.e. RAM memory,
> BIOS settings)
> 2) try slowing down or disabling 'level 2' cache memory (aka
> 'external cache')
<snip>
FWIW, when I first built my IBM 686 powered PC and installed the then
recently released Warp 4, I sufferred repeated Trap 000E errors. The
problem disappeared when I installed FP1. The hardware is:
Gigabyte HX512 with IBM 686 166+ and 64 MB Ram
Adaptec 2840UW SCSI card with IBM 2GB wide SCSI HD
Mattrox Millenium 4MB PCI,
Soundblaster 16 p&p
Kingston EtherRx network card.
PC has been pretty stable ever since - currently at FP6 - although
perhaps it's not quite as robust as its predecessor - a 386DX40 with
16MB ram which I still use with Warp Connect.
--
===
Jim Backus jim.backus@gecm.com
Systems engineer Tel +44 1245 702702 ext 2577
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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 02-Dec-99 14:12:14
To: All 02-Dec-99 16:42:03
Subj: Re: Please try new loader for >64m
From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:57:16 -0600 (CST), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:
I can't account for why Wim's sytem failed to "improve," so I've built a
debug version of os2ldr. Get
ftp://testcase.boulder.ibm.com/ps/fromibm/os2/e820ldrd.zip. Attach something
to com2 to collect the output from this debug loader (debug kernel NOT
needed). Set the terminal program or whatever to 9600,n,8,1. Please email me
the results. Thanks.
-scott
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From: jbrock@panix.com 02-Dec-99 16:43:24
To: All 02-Dec-99 19:45:01
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock)
In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
>I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
>updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
>Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free. If not, new OS/2 buyers will
>not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money. Also,
>We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
I am hoping for a refresh of NS 4.61 like there was with NS 2.02.
(There seems to be a bug in NS 4.61 which causes CPU usage to shoot to
100 percent and download speed to slow to a crawl on many web pages).
Would a refresh of a currently free product still be free?
--
John Brock
jbrock@panix.com
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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de 02-Dec-99 23:20:13
To: All 02-Dec-99 19:45:01
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>
On 2 Dec 1999 16:43:48 -0500, John Brock wrote:
> > I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use
> > for all new updates and applications, [...]
[...]
> Would a refresh of a currently free product still be free?
i wish i could have your problems.
we are trying to subscribe to software choice and we are glad to pay
for it but neither ibm germany nor the resellers are able to give us
informations. ibm germany is not responding to email, voicecalls or
fax and the resellers are waiting for informations from ibm.
-r
OS/2 Warp 4.10 (de)
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com 02-Dec-99 15:00:13
To: All 02-Dec-99 19:45:01
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
John Brock wrote:
> In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free. If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money. Also,
> >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
>
> I am hoping for a refresh of NS 4.61 like there was with NS 2.02.
> (There seems to be a bug in NS 4.61 which causes CPU usage to shoot to
> 100 percent and download speed to slow to a crawl on many web pages).
> Would a refresh of a currently free product still be free?
> --
> John Brock
> jbrock@panix.com
Jeffrey Kobal of the IBM Netscape team reported in a public message
that a a fixpak for Communicator v4.61 will be released AFTER January
2000 but there is a slight chance it may be released in mid-December.
And it will be free!
He added, "you won't have to pay to get fixpacks even after the
new year. Software Choice distributes whole software packages,
not fixpacks...
The above was reported to all members of Warp City on Saturday,
November 13th. Just one of the many tidbits we keep track of
for our members.
Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"1999 Members! Re-Up Today!"
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com 02-Dec-99 17:46:26
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: lifedata@xxvol.com
"bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de> said:
>we are trying to subscribe to software choice and we are glad to pay for
>it but neither ibm germany nor the resellers are able to give us
>informations. ibm germany is not responding to email, voicecalls or fax
>and the resellers are waiting for informations from ibm.
I'm not sure if they handle other than English, but check with Indelible
Blue. Last time I looked, their prices were better than IBM's.
Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 02-Dec-99 18:33:15
To: All 02-Dec-99 20:44:17
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]
In <3846FA0A.8B73BCAA@WarpCity.com>, on 12/02/99
at 03:00 PM, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> said:
>He added, "you won't have to pay to get fixpacks even after the new year.
>Software Choice distributes whole software packages, not fixpacks...
Good news. I'll be able to keep up with the fixpacks until I can swing a
Software Choice membership.
Is it really only $100 a year?
--
GK
FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 29 Processes with 118 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 0d 20h 20m 59s 398ms.
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From: hoseltons@sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 02:17:13
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton)
Can I assume by the comments herethat fixpack 12 was
not that great
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com 02-Dec-99 21:01:24
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
Dave...
I'd be interested in learning a little bit more about "... Henk Kelder's FAT32
drivers
into OS/2" (as taken from your post below). Can you provide a link to a web
page or
some other source of info regarding these drivers, and hopefully locations
where they
can be obtained from? Are they shareware / freeware, or commercial.
Obviously I'm
hoping for the freeware... but... if the price is right.
Thanks in advance...
-=- J.D. -=-
"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> Jim Parker wrote:
> >
> > Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM)
currently
> > > > running
> > > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > > >
> > > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > > about
> > > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > > process again.
> > > >
> > > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> > >
> > > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> > >
> > > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Lorne Sunley
> >
> > You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot
Manager that
> > came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> > installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> > partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic
forum and
> > found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> > and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> > is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one
that was
> > originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> > same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
> >
> > The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98)
primary
> > partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> > visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> > two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0
length and
> > inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> > there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> > any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> > Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> > primaries.
> >
> I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
> problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
> like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
> up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
> partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
> installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
> and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
> additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
> install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
> Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
> delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
> two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
> boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
> as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
> have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
> will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
> be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
>
> > Jim
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From: redonn2@<KILLASPAMMER 02-Dec-99 21:57:22
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: "/2 User" <redonn2@<KILLASPAMMER>attglobal.net>
On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 02:17:27 GMT, Norm Hoselton wrote:
>Can I assume by the comments herethat fixpack 12 was
>not that great
I went back to FP 12 in less than a couple of hours.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 03:04:21
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:01:49, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
wrote:
> Dave...
>
> I'd be interested in learning a little bit more about "... Henk Kelder's
FAT32 drivers
> into OS/2" (as taken from your post below). Can you provide a link to a web
page or
> some other source of info regarding these drivers, and hopefully locations
where they
> can be obtained from? Are they shareware / freeware, or commercial.
Obviously I'm
> hoping for the freeware... but... if the price is right.
>
<lots of snip>
Henk's Homepage is
URL http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/
Don't forget to pick up the INVALUBLE WPTools
that includes the CHECKINI program.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 03:06:27
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:07
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:17:27, hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton)
wrote:
> Can I assume by the comments herethat fixpack 12 was
> not that great
It Depends ....
For me, it fixed the things that were broken that were causing
me problems. For others, it broke things that were working.
Like all fixpacks, you should only install them if they fix
a problem that you know you have.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: jdparker@erols.com 02-Dec-99 23:11:25
To: djohnson@isomedia.com 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: OS2 Dual Boot Installation Problem
To: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
"David T. Johnson" wrote:
> Jim Parker wrote:
> >
> > Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:50:10, "Ian Dawson" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have a Toshiba Satellite S300CDT (with 2.1Gb - 80Mb RAM)
currently
> > > > running
> > > > Win 98. I want to install OS2 as a dual boot option.
> > > >
> > > > After inserting the OS2 Installation Disk, an OS2 symbol appears and
after
> > > > about
> > > > 30 seconds of disk churning, the machine reboots and starts the whole
> > > > process again.
> > > >
> > > > Any Ideas on whats wrong and how to fix them....
> > >
> > > If you are trying to use "dual boot" meaning that the OS/2
> > > code is in the same partition as Windows 98, this probably
> > > won't work given that Win 98 is probably using a FAT32 or
> > > FAT32X partition type which OS/2 cannot read.
> > >
> > > The only reliable way is to use "boot manager" which
> > > will require that you re-partition your disk drive to obtain
> > > another partition that can be used to install OS/2
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Lorne Sunley
> >
> > You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot
Manager that
> > came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which PowerQuest got from IBM. Later I
> > installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled in a
FAT32
> > partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic
forum and
> > found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed
> > and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition correctly. The
issue
> > is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is probably the same one
that was
> > originally distributed with Partition Magic and thus probably suffers from
the
> > same problem. I don't know if IBM ever distributed a fix for the problem.
> >
> > The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98)
primary
> > partition, the FAT primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
> > visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned
> > two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of 0
length and
> > inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of course, is
that
> > there is supposed to be only one primary partition per physical drive
visible at
> > any one time. I only had two primary partitions on this drive (other than
Boot
> > Manager itself) so I don't know how it would have dealt with more than two
> > primaries.
> >
> I have used Partition Magic 3.05 and the OS/2 v4 boot manager without
> problems with FAT32 drives. The problem you describe really sounds more
> like a Partition Magic problem than a boot manager problem. I have set
> up systems with the Windows 9x on a FAT32 partition on the first
> partition and OS/2 on a second logical partition. If Windows is already
> installed on the C: FAT32 partion, OS/2 will not see the FAT32 partition
> and so will think it is installing on the C: drive unless you create an
> additional small partition ahead of OS/2 for the install. Then you
> install OS/2 on what it thinks is now the D: partition and then install
> Henk Kelder's FAT32 drivers into OS/2. Then boot with floppies and
> delete the small partition (and reclaim the space to one of the other
> two large partitions). If you've done everything correctly, OS/2 will
> boot with the FAT32 drivers and will now recognize the FAT32 partition
> as the C: drive and the OS/2 partition as the D: drive and OS/2 will
> have read and write access to both the C and D partitions. Windows 9x
> will only see the C: drive (unless you formatted the OS/2 partition to
> be FAT16--a very unwise idea IMO).
>
> > Jim
If you have Partition Magic 3.05 then you have the updated Boot Manager. You
may or
may not be using the updated Boot Manager. It doesn't matter to you because
the old
Boot Manager will handle the scenario you described. What I described was a
different
scenario and the old Boot Manager will not handle it correctly.
Jim
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 03-Dec-99 06:19:16
To: All 03-Dec-99 03:35:08
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>
postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> Is it really only $100 a year?
>
It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
--
sma at rtd dot com
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From: anders@metallurgi.kth.se 03-Dec-99 09:38:27
To: All 03-Dec-99 05:15:15
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: Anders Jakobsson <anders@metallurgi.kth.se>
hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton) writes:
I use it and it works great. But I came from fp11 which was not great.
Anders
>
> Can I assume by the comments herethat fixpack 12 was
> not that great
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 03-Dec-99 08:28:24
To: All 03-Dec-99 05:15:15
Subj: printer ports at non standard io and irq?
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
Hi Folks,
I recently put an dual PP ISA card into a WS4 machine and have had a
fair bit of trouble configuring the thing to work as I'd like.
I left the onboard PP at 378 irq7, and put the two new ones at 3bc
irq5 and 278 irq 9. The card also supports all irq's up to 15 and a
heap of extra (non standard) IO addresses.
After finding out that this didnt work, I searched the help and it
basically told me this:
3 port config.
PP0 3bc irq7
PP1 378 irq7
PP2 278 irq5
These settings would appear to be hard coded. My question is whether
or not there is another PP driver available that would allow a certain
amount of configuration along the lines of com.sys. Com.sys allows,
via switches in the config.sys, you to put your ports nearly anyplace
with nearly any irq (3e8, 9 for instance).
As I found, the current configuration works as long as you dont use
irq's for printing (leave /irq off the print01.sys line in
config.sys). This uses polling instead and is real CPU hungry,
particularly in a heavy printing environment. Putting /irq into the
config.sys fixes the CPU hog, but you cant use the PP at 3bc and 378
at the same time.
Another problem that immediately comes to mind is what is going to
happen to me when I need to add another 2 ports, which I'll need to do
quite soon. I've got the spare irq's as this is a SCSI only system
with no sound etc.
If no driver is available, would the source for the print01.sys be
around someplace and would it be a -huge- task (ie, expensive) to get
a programmer to rewrite it for multiple ports at varying
addresses/irq's??
Regards,
Craig
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net 03-Dec-99 10:16:27
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:26:26
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?
From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net
In <823crk$dlb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
>Yes, my folders are large, typically with 1500-3000 msgs in each one.
>I have numerous accounts and folders all in systematic hierarchies. To
>re-index would be a royal PITA, but one which I suspect I would have to
>try since there is an amazing lack of useful suggestions (yours and the
>other followups on this thread not withstanding). ;-)
Have you tried contacting he author directly? I think he is pretty
available. I am only now trying this program out, to see if I want to
keep it and register it.
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Plymouth, MN
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From: cocke@catherders.com 03-Dec-99 06:50:20
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:26:27
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>
It's a well kept secret, but there actually is a competent sales group
at IBM. Try this (I have no idea how/if it will work from Germany -
perhaps someone who knows more about that can help)
IBM Sales - (800) 426-2255
Note that this number does NOT go to the PC Company or to PSP - these
folks actually have a clue. If the operator requires a name, ask for DJ
or Steve.
This is the only sales department at IBM that knows what they're doing
that I've found in 20+ years of working with computers, including a few
working for IBM.
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:46:53 -0500, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>"bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de> said:
>
>>we are trying to subscribe to software choice and we are glad to pay for
>>it but neither ibm germany nor the resellers are able to give us
>>informations. ibm germany is not responding to email, voicecalls or fax
>>and the resellers are waiting for informations from ibm.
>
>I'm not sure if they handle other than English, but check with Indelible
>Blue. Last time I looked, their prices were better than IBM's.
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>
>
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From: sbo@hehe.com 03-Dec-99 13:00:21
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:46:24
Subj: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)
Anders Jakobsson wrote in a message to All:
AJ> I use it and it works great. But I came from fp11 which was not
AJ> great. Anders
I was quite happy with fp8. Rather solid, and if the shell crashed, or
I killed it for some reason, it just started up a new <pmshell.exe> -
as it should, and have done since GA.
Then I added fp10 - But it didn't start up a new <pmshell.exe>.! :-(
Therefore I cahnged into fp11 = same result. :-/ If I intendedly
kills (the last started) <pmshell.exe>, to force a backup version, it
DOES start (a second) <pmshell.exe> up again as it should.
How does fp12 handle this little case..??
> Can I assume by the comments here that fixpack 12 was
> not that great
<pmmerge.dll> should be used from a former fp..??
OS20MEMU, Theseus and maybe other programs wont run under fp12..??
--
Steen
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 03-Dec-99 14:29:06
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:46:24
Subj: Re: printer ports at non standard io and irq?
From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:28:48, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I recently put an dual PP ISA card into a WS4 machine and have had a
> fair bit of trouble configuring the thing to work as I'd like.
>
> I left the onboard PP at 378 irq7, and put the two new ones at 3bc
> irq5 and 278 irq 9. The card also supports all irq's up to 15 and a
> heap of extra (non standard) IO addresses.
>
> After finding out that this didnt work, I searched the help and it
> basically told me this:
>
> 3 port config.
>
> PP0 3bc irq7
> PP1 378 irq7
> PP2 278 irq5
>
> These settings would appear to be hard coded. My question is whether
> or not there is another PP driver available that would allow a certain
> amount of configuration along the lines of com.sys. Com.sys allows,
> via switches in the config.sys, you to put your ports nearly anyplace
> with nearly any irq (3e8, 9 for instance).
>
> As I found, the current configuration works as long as you dont use
> irq's for printing (leave /irq off the print01.sys line in
> config.sys). This uses polling instead and is real CPU hungry,
> particularly in a heavy printing environment. Putting /irq into the
> config.sys fixes the CPU hog, but you cant use the PP at 3bc and 378
> at the same time.
>
> Another problem that immediately comes to mind is what is going to
> happen to me when I need to add another 2 ports, which I'll need to do
> quite soon. I've got the spare irq's as this is a SCSI only system
> with no sound etc.
>
> If no driver is available, would the source for the print01.sys be
> around someplace and would it be a -huge- task (ie, expensive) to get
> a programmer to rewrite it for multiple ports at varying
> addresses/irq's??
I've got a similar add-on board (Dolphin FASTISA-4013) that adds 2
ports, and did get all 3 ports working, but not at all in BIDI mode.
Something weird with WSeB, I think, because I've had BIDI operation in
the past with Warp 4.
I had to take it out because it kept interfering with existing IRQ
assignments. Unlike your system, mine's full, and I had to assign it
to my unused COM port IRQs. There's excellent support at the Dolphin
website, by the way, which is good because the docs that come in the
box are very sketchy. http://www.dolphinfast.com
Try the BIDI port package, which includes a substitute for the
PRINT01.SYS called PAR1284.SYS, and a replacement PARALLEL.PDR port
driver. This is what I used, successfully, and I didn't test the
PRINT01.SYS driver at all.
I believe this is the package at IBM:
ftp://ps.software.ibm.com:/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/bidi.exe
It doesn't do any good to specify /IRQ on the PAR1284.SYS load line,
by the way.
--
Good luck,
Buddy
Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 03-Dec-99 14:57:16
To: All 03-Dec-99 10:46:24
Subj: Re: printer ports at non standard io and irq?
From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:28:48, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) wrote:
<snip>
>
> If no driver is available, would the source for the print01.sys be
> around someplace and would it be a -huge- task (ie, expensive) to get
> a programmer to rewrite it for multiple ports at varying
> addresses/irq's??
>
The souce for the print01.sys driver and the tools to
compile it are available at the IBM DDK web site. You
will have to register but there is no charge for this.
URL http://service.software.ibm.com/ddk/
From a quick look it shouldn't be too difficult
to modify it to allow different IRQ and/or port
addresses.
--
Lorne Sunley
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 03-Dec-99 16:34:12
To: All 03-Dec-99 14:33:06
Subj: Re: Software Choice
Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
Tim Martin wrote:
>
> John Brock wrote:
>
> > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free. If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money. Also,
> > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version). Fixes are
free if you can find them, However, if a fix results in a newer version
then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
choice. Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
server and so on.
I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
Netscape, remains to be seen.
From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
os/2. From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
would make business sence for us too. However, buying licences for
clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
prices).
Charles
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Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: nospam@nospam.noway.com 03-Dec-99 10:38:29
To: All 03-Dec-99 14:33:06
Subj: Re: Odin a5 doesn't work
From: "Roberto F. Salomon" <nospam@nospam.noway.com>
I have been getting the same error when trying to start any Win9x app on my
Warp 4 FP12 box.
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:19:46 -0500, Ariel wrote:
[...]
>IIRC you need to install a fix pack, I recommend the latest one, although
>I think you can get away with an earlier one. If you remember way back
>when lotus smart suite distributed a special fix pack for Open32, which
>was then integrated with the main fix packs - the point where it became
>part of the main fix packs is the one you need at minimum - but I strongly
>recommend that if you're installing one, go for the latest version.
>
> -Ariel
>
>> When I try to start a win32 program a message box appears which is
>> titled 'Odin' saying that the kernel32.dll couldn't be loaded/found.
[...]
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From: nospam@nospam.noway.com 03-Dec-99 10:44:23
To: All 03-Dec-99 14:33:06
Subj: Re: Odin a5 doesn't work
From: "Roberto F. Salomon" <nospam@nospam.noway.com>
While still at it... Does anyone have the list of files needed for Open32
support?
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com 03-Dec-99 12:29:26
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:06
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: lifedata@xxvol.com
James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:
>> Is it really only $100 a year?
>>
> It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
I wasn't sure about the actual figure, and remembered it as $200. But that
still comes out at $125 a year, even though you can't get it for one year
at a time. The reason I said anything at all was I knew some people must
still think it is a lot higher than it really is.
When you consider that there are a lot of things on SWC other than Netscape
and Java, you're not getting a bad deal at all.
That's my point.
Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 03-Dec-99 19:05:15
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: Fixpack 12 Can I Assume
From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:17:27, hoseltons@sympatico.ca (Norm Hoselton)
wrote:
> Can I assume by the comments herethat fixpack 12 was
> not that great
I find FP12 to be very good, except for the PMMERGE.DLL problems. I
have installed the updated PMMERGE.DLL (look for PMR00052.ZIP at
HOBBES), and that seems to be much better. So far, FP12 (with the
fix), seems to be as good as FP9, which I found to be very stable.
YMMV...
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca 03-Dec-99 20:21:11
To: All 03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: Software Choice
From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)
lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:
: >> Is it really only $100 a year?
: >>
: > It's $250 for two years. There is no one year option.
: I wasn't sure about the actual figure, and remembered it as $200. But that
: still comes out at $125 a year, even though you can't get it for one year
: at a time. The reason I said anything at all was I knew some people must
: still think it is a lot higher than it really is.
: When you consider that there are a lot of things on SWC other than Netscape
: and Java, you're not getting a bad deal at all.
There are other things, but delivery of items are not guaranteed. You get
what IBM decides to deliver during your subscription period
Netscape and Java are free for other platforms. You might get UDF for DVD
and TCPIP 4.x updates. That's not worth $125/year for me.
If they could provide a "real" client upgrade, or a specific list of
deliverables, then yes, $125/year is not too bad.
Isaac
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