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From: [e-mail]                                    30-Oct-99 13:03:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: "Richard" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:31:11 -0400, Anton Callaway wrote:

>You are right that APC supplies two cables, but according to the APC
>instructions, I am using the correct one.  The smart signalling cables are
for
>the Smart-UPS and Matrix UPS models.

A little off topic...I bought a used Smart-UPS without a cable.
Does anyone know the pin configuration so I can make one?

TIA Richard


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From: [e-mail]                             30-Oct-99 17:11:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

It's *not* a standard serial cable. I think the pin connections may be on the
APC
web site (www.apcc.com) somewhere. Or if I can find my manual, it may be in
there.

I hope the price you paid is commensurate with the condition of the batteries.


Alan


Richard wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:31:11 -0400, Anton Callaway wrote:
>
> >You are right that APC supplies two cables, but according to the APC
> >instructions, I am using the correct one.  The smart signalling cables are
for
> >the Smart-UPS and Matrix UPS models.
>
> A little off topic...I bought a used Smart-UPS without a cable.
> Does anyone know the pin configuration so I can make one?
>
> TIA Richard

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From: [e-mail]                               30-Oct-99 19:31:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:09
Subj: MrFilePM5.3

From: Philip Lerner <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a copy of version 5.3 of MrFilePM. Does anyone know
where it is available?

Phil Lerner
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                  30-Oct-99 22:38:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

I have purchased an Expert Mouse v5.0, and have installed it successfully
as
a PS/2 device in my OS/2 Warp4 system. I downloaded the OS/2 software from
your Website, and have installed it too.

Installation went without incident, and I rebooted the machine. Upon
attempting
to open the Control Panel, I was greeted with an error message telling me
that
EXMOUSE2.SYS must be loaded; why it is not loaded is not at all clear to
me. Here are the mouse-related lives from CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\KENSINGTON\EXMOUSE2.SYS
 INIPATH=C:\KENSINGTON\EXSTART.INI      (on the same line as "DEVICE")

As you can see, there is indeed an instruction for loading EXMOUSE2.SYS,
and
the file is in the expected directory. On the other hand, there is no
EXSTART.INI anywhere on the system. Since the installation program ran to
completion, apparently did what it was expected to do, and raised no error
messages, there would seem to be a bug somewhere.

The docs do not mention the INI file at all, except to mention in passing
that it can somehow call one or more of the preference files (*.PRF)
provided or user-constructed. How it does this and where it comes from are
left to the imagination of the user.

I have asked Kensington the above questions, and have received no answer,
perhaps because support is not a profitable pursuit (although issuing good
manuals can be shown to yield a good return)

I would like to be able to run the manufacturer's driver, and to make use
of all four buttons on this device. Does anyone know how to do this?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                              30-Oct-99 08:09:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Anton Callaway <[e-mail]>

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Problem Solved!!!

The bottom line:  Ignore The Instructions!  Use the black smart-signaling
cable on a
Back-UPS Pro 650 (and maybe other Pro models) even though APC's instructions
say not
to.
From page 3 of their latest update to their instruction manual:
"The Smart-UPS and Matrix-UPS product lines support smart signalling."
then: "All UPS manufactured by APC that have serial ports support simple
signaling."
So, because I do not have a Smart or Matrix UPS and since it sounded like I
couldn't
go wrong with the simple cable, I thought that it had to be the right cable.
Wrong!

After attaching the smart cable, make sure that UPSD.EXE starts before
starting
Pwrchute.exe.  Choose Smart cable in the Powerchute Plus menu and if you get a
weird
message erroneously telling you that you are on battery power when you are
not, shut
down these apps and restart them in the same order as before.  That should fix
the
problem.  Everything works now!

Thanks to all who contributed comments and suggestions, especially Alan, who
was right
all along about using the smart cable, but I dared not contradict the APC
instruction
manual until Jennifer from APC told me to do so.  She is great!

Anton


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From: [e-mail]                    29-Oct-99 08:05:06
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

Here's a long'shot. Are you familiar with "Tom's Hardware Guide" at
http://www.tomshardware.com? Tom's interested in all sorts of hardware
stuff, and seems to be generally pro-AMD. His web site is quite well
known too. If you email him and let him know what's going on, he may be
able to publicise this problem on his site, or even point you to someone
inside AMD who can help. As I said, a long shot, but maybe worth trying.
It's an interesting web site anyway!

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                29-Oct-99 11:06:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Bill Horne <[e-mail]>

My experience may not be directly related, but I had COM driver problems
with UPS software from TRIPP LITE. (BTW, they told me that they were not
supporting OS/2 any longer.) I have been using the beta SIO 2.0 drivers
for some time, but was unable to communicate with the UPS (using
proprietary cable). However, SIO 2.0 allows configuration of the port
interfaces. I made it ignore the UPS port, and then installed the
standard COM.SYS for that one. Actually the COM.SYS is installed first,
then SIO2k. Works fine that way and I can still use my high speed com on
the other ports.

Bill Horne

PS: Here are the lines from the CONFIG.SYS. I double spaced them in case
of line wrap in the e-mail.

DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (1,,)(2,,)(3,,)(4,2e8,3)

device=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\sio2k.sys
logfile=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\sio2k.log

device=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\uart.sys
logfile=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\sio2k.log

device=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\vsio2k.sys
logfile=d:\USER\TOOLS\sio2k\vsio2k.log vIrqList(3,4)



Anton Callaway wrote:
>
> Many thanks to everyone who has contributed suggestions!  I still have not
resolved
> the problems, but APC did finally acknowledge my email and I have tried some
new
> things that may help diagnose the problem.
>
> 1) I booted to a non-OS/2 partition and yanked the power plug.  As usual the
UPS
> switched to battery.  When I replugged the cord, the power stayed on with or
without
> the "serial" cable attached.
> 2) I found mention of a very similar problem in the documentation of the
shareware
> UPSMonB from the Warped Code Cellar.  They do not mention the 650, but they
describe a
> similar problem with the 400.  The "simple-signalling" cable shipped with
the UPS
> itself is different than the "simple-signalling cable shipped with the
software.  I
> will try the other cable tomorrow as I have a job running now that I can't
interrupt.
>
> Any other suggestions/ comments are also welcome.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anton
>
> Mooo wrote:
>
> > The Backups simple singalling does not use a baud rate as no data is
> > transferred.  It simply signals from the TX line of the UPs to the CTS
> > line on the computer com port.
> >
> > The graphs on Powerchute likewise are meaningless on a Backups as no
> > info is collected or transmitted.
> >
> > As for the turning off problem.  Sounds like it might possibly be a
> > UPS problem.  Perhaps the power actually is being cut off to the
> > computer when its reconnected to the UPS (this is wrong).  Try
> > connecting something else to the UPS and see if it also turns off when
> > power is connected.  You might also try simply removing the data
> > cable, then removing power and reapplying it very shortly afterwards.
> > Nothing should happen (ie, your system should stay up).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig

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From: [e-mail]                    29-Oct-99 18:57:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
: performance.

    I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into
the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out...


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From: [e-mail]                           31-Oct-99 02:47:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:20
Subj: Re: MrFilePM5.3

From: Tim Rosnau <[e-mail]>

I have version 5.2. Didn't know there was a newer one. Please let me
know if you find it.

Philip Lerner wrote:
>
> I am looking for a copy of version 5.3 of MrFilePM. Does anyone know
> where it is available?
>
> Phil Lerner
> [e-mail]

--
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to be able to love the mystery surrounding us
is the final and only sanction of human existence.
 - Hugh MacLennan, The Watch That Ends The Night

Tim Rosnau
Edmonton AB Canada

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From: [e-mail]                                31-Oct-99 01:03:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: "Maurice Janssen" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:03:19 GMT, Richard wrote:
>A little off topic...I bought a used Smart-UPS without a cable.
>Does anyone know the pin configuration so I can make one?

Here's a description of some cables:
http://www.brisse.dk/site/apcupsd/library/mixedbag/index.htm

I guess you need this one (works fine with my smart-ups):
http://www.brisse.dk/site/apcupsd/library/mixedbag/cables/csmart.htm

HTH, Maurice
--
Maurice Janssen      |   The best way to accelerate
                     |   a computer running Windows
[e-mail]   |   is at 9.8 m/s^2


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From: [e-mail]-m...               31-Oct-99 21:55:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: VoiceType Dictation on Warp Server 4E-Bus

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Martin Schafföner)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:28:25, Bruno De Nys <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Trying to install VoiceType Dictation (on the Warp 4 CD-ROM) on a
> working Warp Server for E-Business fails when following the instruction
> described in the Warp 4 installation instructions.
>
> Has any-one succeeded in installing ONLY VT (i.e. no other components)
> from Warp4 on a working Warp Server?
>
> Greetings, bruno.
>
Having only  wseb beta I played around with it a little bit.  I
successfully managed to install VT on wseb!!! Here is how I did it:
VT is installed using feature installer which seems to have many
different faces - the netscape front end, the little-known Command
Line FI (clifi.exe) and a WPS class called wpinstall.  Objects of this
class can be found in the "os2\install\installed features" directory
of your bootdrive.  You will need one of them but you'll see later.
First, we need the response file of the installation program.  On a
command line, change to a new directory (just so you don't make a mess
of your system), insert the Warp4 CD and type "unpack
x:\os2image\disk_11\bundle /n:fibase.rsp" (where x: is your cd-rom
drive letter), which will unpack the response file to the directory.
The response file comes with default settings which can be used if you
want to install VT on your bootdrive.  If you want to install it to a
different drive, you have to edit the response file.  Search for
"TargetDrive" and change the value from {BootDrive} to the drive
letter of your choice, like "D:".
Now open the above mentioned directory "os2\install\installed
features" on your bootdrive.  There should be a couple of objects with
package-like icons in it.  From the context menu of any one of them,
select "Create another" to create an object of the same class
(WPInstall) anywhere you please, preferrably in the directory where
the response file is located.  From the context menu of this newly
created object, select "Response file" -> "Read" and specify your
response file in the file dialog.  Now a window should appear telling
you that settings are rebuilt from a response file.
Now you're just about set to install VT.  Open the install object (it
should appear in tree view) and deselect everything BUT VT (or
whatever the equivalent is of your NLS installation - in German it was
"Voice Type").  Hit the install button.  You might have to specify the
source of the files which is "x:\os2image\fi", where x: is your cd-rom
drive letter.  Reboot.  Drag the directory to your shredder. This is
important as choosing "Delete" from the context menu result in another
installation attempt by the install object.

That's it - and have fun!!!


Martin Schafföner

Suzuki GS650G Katana
OS/2 Warp 4 with FixPak 11
There are currently 29 processes
with 123 threads active.
This machine's uptime 0h 35min 40sec.

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From: [e-mail]                                  31-Oct-99 14:00:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse

From: [e-mail] (John M. Garth)

In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-Wdzp2JsztICv@POBLANO>,
[e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
>I would like to be able to run the manufacturer's driver, and to make use
>of all four buttons on this device. Does anyone know how to do this?

I have the mouse drivers installed in the OS2 directory (my boot drive
is D):

DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
REM DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\EXMOUSE2.SYS

The EXSTART.INI file is in D:\OS2, and looks like this:

[ExStartup]
Version=4.00
[ExDefault]
Version=4.00
Acceleration=9
Left=Left
Right=Right
Middle=DoubleLeft
TopRight=LockRight
Chord=Chord
ChordSpeed=96

All 4 buttons work OK for me.  Hope this helps.

John M. Garth                                           [e-mail]
--
"Well as answers go, short, to the point, utterly useless and totally
consistent with what I've come to expect from a Vorlon." - John Sheridan
"The Vorlons are Windows '95." - J. M. Straczynski

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From: [e-mail]                                31-Oct-99 23:11:04
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: I lost CdRom on IBM ThinkPad 755CD???

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> Had Win95 + OS/2 Ver3 Red on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD
> with Floppy drive and IBM Cdrom working fine.
> Somehow lost the cdrom and Modem trying to
> install Ver 4. (had to reinstall)
> Had to reinstall Windows 3.1 because I have the disks
> and os2 ver3. Managed to get the modem pcmia back
> working: but cannot get the cd-rom back.
> The cd rom is an IBM teac.
> I tried atapi drivers, msdex, and a  couple others,
> No good.
> Help really appreciated.
> Albert.
> It took me 82 years to get this dumb, ;-(

In your config.sys there probably are statements like this:
DEVICE=x:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
IFS=x:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q
DEVICE=x:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS

Change the /Q to /V on the DEVICE=x:\OS2\BOOT line and delete /Q from
the IFS line.  This will provide diagnostic output when the drivers are
loaded. This may help you diagnose your problem. There may be other
options on the IFS line. Type 'help os2cdrom.dmd' and/or 'help cdfs.ifs'
at an OS/2 command prompt for more information.

Good luck
Jim



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From: [e-mail]                                     01-Nov-99 10:55:12
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:23
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: "Hans K. Aspenberg" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:41:20 -0700 (PDT), James F. Marshall wrote:

:>On Tue, 26 Oct 99 10:17:38 +0100, Hans K. Aspenberg wrote:
:>
:>:>And, _please_ flame me for this "sales info" :-)
:>
:>From where does it ship to US customers?

Hi James (and all),

Our office is located in Fairfax Virginia. Please visit http://www.norman.com
for purchase and shipping details.

;-)) Hans
---

Hans K. Aspenberg
[e-mail]
OS/2 Development, NORMAN ASA



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From: [e-mail]                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <[e-mail]> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California
                          USA

[e-mail]         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: David @ Thackernet.com                            01-Nov-99 23:10:17
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "David Thacker" <David @ Thackernet.com>

Greetings,

I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
success.

What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files (*.pl) with
c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply by entering the
filename (eg. test.pl).

Anyone figured out how to do this?  I can do it for WPS objects, but not
from the command line.

Thanks,

dAvid tHacker


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From: [e-mail]                                   02-Nov-99 00:08:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (David Kunz)

David Thacker ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific
: extension to a program, from the command line.  Is this possible?
: I haven't had any success.

: What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files
: (*.pl) with c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply
: by entering the filename (eg. test.pl).

: Anyone figured out how to do this?  I can do it for WPS objects,
: but not from the command line.

I believe that this is possible using 4OS2, but not cmd.exe.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: [e-mail]                                  02-Nov-99 00:34:09
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Pete)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:08:41, [e-mail] (David Kunz) wrote:

> David Thacker ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific
> : extension to a program, from the command line.  Is this possible?
> : I haven't had any success.
>
> : What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files
> : (*.pl) with c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply
> : by entering the filename (eg. test.pl).


Perhaps a PL.cmd, where:

"pl <filename>"

would execute said program and load the preferred file.  It might look
something like this:

Echo off
c:\emx\bin\perl.exe %1

I'm not a programmer, this is just a possible .CMD file, NOT REXX.

Just a thought.
Pete

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From: [e-mail]                                02-Nov-99 06:20:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: IOMEGA was: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: [e-mail] (Jim Burke)

Tried what you said, and it didn't find my parallel port Zip 100.
Works fine with the OAD drivers.

Fixpack 10

On 26 Oct 1999 21:48:24 +1000, you wrote:

>PS,

>5) Do not forget to remove the IOMEGA lines from your config.sys



[e-mail] wrote:

>>What are you actually trying to do with whatever Iomega device you've
>>got? Run some DOS-based utility perhaps? That's the only way 640K could
>>be relevant, and a typical DOS box is configured with some EMS and XMS
>>without any further adjustement. By changing the DOS box's Properties
>>you can change these amounts as necessary.

>Agree with the above but what is the problem?
>If the problem is that you are having trouble with a ZIP disk then I can
>lay odds you are trying to use the IOMEGA software that came with it.

>If this is the case;
>1) throw the software away.
>2) Install any FP9 or above.
>3) Put BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /MP:(*,1) /V
>     in your config.sys.
>4) Format your Zip disks FAT/HPFS as you please

>Brian


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From: [e-mail]                      02-Nov-99 03:31:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <K5pT3.92093$[e-mail]>, "David Thacker" <David @
Thackernet.com> writes:

>I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
>program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
>success.
>
>What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files (*.pl) with
>c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply by entering the
>filename (eg. test.pl).
>
>Anyone figured out how to do this?  I can do it for WPS objects, but not
>from the command line.

I'm not sure how you'd do it with the stock CMD.EXE, but if you
use 4OS2 it's a snap.  Just define .pl as an "executable
extension" pointing to "c:\emx\bin\perl.exe" and from then on,
whenever you type "test.pl" (or even just "test" if test.pl is in
your path), perl will be invoked to run test.pl

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                               02-Nov-99 14:04:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

The following ngs trimmed from reply:
comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
mp.os.os2.networking.misc,


On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo
<[e-mail]> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:

>
> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
>
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or
upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is
that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable
backups on equipment allegedly supported;
c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
(or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the
linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I
haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning
curve like a ski jump).

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                             02-Nov-99 09:29:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

Did you use the Verify option when you did your backups?

Alan


Richard A Crane wrote:

<snip>

> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

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From: [e-mail]                            02-Nov-99 08:00:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

I know how to do it with Rexx and Henk Kelder's WPS Tools.  However,
many of us use the Association Editor, a freebie available from Hobbes.

David Thacker wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
> program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
> success.
>
> What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files (*.pl) with
> c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply by entering the
> filename (eg. test.pl).
>
> Anyone figured out how to do this?  I can do it for WPS objects, but not
> from the command line.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dAvid tHacker

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: [e-mail]

In <7vlcc5$b1o$[e-mail]>, on 11/02/99
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <[e-mail]> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California
>                          USA

>[e-mail]         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



--
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                  02-Nov-99 18:23:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>

Techmar Tape drives have worked well with BA/2. And CDS even sells them
at discount

Richard A Crane wrote:

> The following ngs trimmed from reply:
> comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
> mp.os.os2.networking.misc,
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo
> <[e-mail]> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:
>
> >
> > I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> >
> > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> > often.  (Long history of failures here).
> >
> > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> > experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> >
> > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> > newsgroup.
>
> As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
> drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
> both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
> a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
> b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
> the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or
> upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is
> that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable
> backups on equipment allegedly supported;
> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)
>
> I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the
> linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I
> haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning
> curve like a ski jump).
>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:08
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:00:42, Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I know how to do it with Rexx and Henk Kelder's WPS Tools.  However,
> many of us use the Association Editor, a freebie available from Hobbes.
>
>

That is not applicable to the command line.

I supect the original poster will need to write a REXX command, to
decode the file extension, and start the correct program.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: David @ Thackernet.com                            02-Nov-99 17:42:01
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "David Thacker" <David @ Thackernet.com>

Thanks for the replies, especially yours John.  I will investigate 4OS2 for
my requirements.

I've been an OS/2 user since the 2.0 beta 6149, and thought I had a decent
grasp of the commandline.  I just wanted to make sure I hadnt missed
something.

Thanks again,

dAvid tHacker



John Thompson <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:c1.2c.2Sm0rN$1VP@rhino_house.attglobal.net...
>
> I'm not sure how you'd do it with the stock CMD.EXE, but if you
> use 4OS2 it's a snap.  Just define .pl as an "executable
> extension" pointing to "c:\emx\bin\perl.exe" and from then on,
> whenever you type "test.pl" (or even just "test" if test.pl is in
> your path), perl will be invoked to run test.pl
>
> -John ([e-mail])
>


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From: [e-mail]                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


[e-mail] wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$[e-mail]>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <[e-mail]> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >[e-mail]         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [e-mail]
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                    02-Nov-99 19:05:01
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "Simon Bowring" <[e-mail]>

>>I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
>>program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
>>success.
<deleted>
>I'm not sure how you'd do it with the stock CMD.EXE,

CMD.EXE has been able to do this for many years. Type "help EXTPROC"
(it works exactly like like unix "!#" as in "!#/bin/sh" etc)

Note this is nothing to do with "associations" in the WPS sense of
the word - EXTPROC may not be a suitable solution for you!

Regards

Simon Bowring


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From: [e-mail]                             02-Nov-99 18:58:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: IOMEGA was: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: [e-mail]

Jim Burke wrote:
>
> Tried what you said, and it didn't find my parallel port Zip 100.
> Works fine with the OAD drivers.
>
> Fixpack 10
>
> On 26 Oct 1999 21:48:24 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >PS,
>
> >5) Do not forget to remove the IOMEGA lines from your config.sys
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >>What are you actually trying to do with whatever Iomega device you've
> >>got? Run some DOS-based utility perhaps? That's the only way 640K could
> >>be relevant, and a typical DOS box is configured with some EMS and XMS
> >>without any further adjustement. By changing the DOS box's Properties
> >>you can change these amounts as necessary.
>
> >Agree with the above but what is the problem?
> >If the problem is that you are having trouble with a ZIP disk then I can
> >lay odds you are trying to use the IOMEGA software that came with it.
>
> >If this is the case;
> >1) throw the software away.
> >2) Install any FP9 or above.
> >3) Put BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /MP:(*,1) /V
> >     in your config.sys.
> >4) Format your Zip disks FAT/HPFS as you please
>
> >Brian
I originally  wrote regardinng the Iomega drive whose installation put
the Iomega tools inn the Win/os2 start-up file...cause  the system to
Trap....Upon getting  your advise, I removed the startup file and  and
the problem when away....The Iomega tools were of no use to me as I use
the OS/2 system to manage the contents of the drive and this works just
fine.

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From: [e-mail]                                    03-Nov-99 01:11:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: "Richard" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:03:16 +0200, Maurice Janssen wrote:

>Here's a description of some cables:
>http://www.brisse.dk/site/apcupsd/library/mixedbag/index.htm
>

Thanks Maurice, very useful site.

Richard


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From: David @ Thackernet.com                            03-Nov-99 05:32:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "David Thacker" <David @ Thackernet.com>

Thanks for the tip Simon, I was not aware of the EXTPROC feature.  However,
this only seems to work if the extproc command is within a .cmd (and
probably .bat) file.  If I place it within a .pl or .cgi file, it still
doesn't trick cmd.exe into running the extproc command if I try to execute
the .pl or .cgi file directly.  Eg. trying to run test.pl still generates a
"not a command file" error.

Thanks anyway, though, I'm sure I'll find a use for extproc sometime.

dAvid tHacker

Simon Bowring <[e-mail]> wrote in message
news:fobjevatzcpqngnpbhx.fklhkf3.pminews@news-ogw...
> >>I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to
a
> >>program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
> >>success.
> <deleted>
> >I'm not sure how you'd do it with the stock CMD.EXE,
>
> CMD.EXE has been able to do this for many years. Type "help EXTPROC"
> (it works exactly like like unix "!#" as in "!#/bin/sh" etc)
>
> Note this is nothing to do with "associations" in the WPS sense of
> the word - EXTPROC may not be a suitable solution for you!
>
> Regards
>
> Simon Bowring
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                                      02-Nov-99 18:37:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Steen Bondo)

Thackernet.com wrote in a message to All:

Tc> I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific
Tc> extension to a program, from the command line.  Is this possible?
Tc> I
Tc> haven't had any success.

Using 4os2, this could be part of your <4start.cmd>...:

SET .PDF=C:\OS2_PROG\ACROBAT3\ACROREAD.EXE
SET .HLP=C:\TCPIP\BIN\VIEWHELP.EXE
SET .HT*=C:\UTIL\HV.EXE
SET .INF=C:\OS2\VIEW.EXE
SET .Z[I0123456789][P0123456789]=RAR
SET .A[R0123456789][J0123456789]=RAR
SET .R[A0123456789][R0123456789]=RAR
SET .L[Z0123456789][H0123456789]=RAR
SET .IFF=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .SHW=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .IMG=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .PCX=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .JPG=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .BMP=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .GIF=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .TIF=C:\OS2_PROG\PMVIEW\PMVIEW.EXE
SET .MET=PICVIEW.EXE
SET .ICO=ICONEDIT
SET .INI=Q
SET .CFG=Q
SET .FLC=MPPM.EXE
SET .MPG=MPPM.EXE
SET .MPEG=c:\os2_prog\pmmpeg\pmmpeg.exe
SET .AVI=MPPM.EXE
SET .WAV=MPPM.EXE
set .MID=mppm.exe
SET .*=L
--
Steen

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From: [e-mail]                           03-Nov-99 10:51:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: Csaba Raduly <[e-mail]>

David Thacker wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
> program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
> success.
>

Certainly. Just use a "proper" shell :-) like bash or pdksh.
These can interpret the "shebang" ( #! perl ) at the beginning of perl
scripts.

Or you could try renaming the .pl script to .cmd and putting
extproc d:/perllib/bin/perl -wS

in the first line

Csaba

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From: [e-mail]                    03-Nov-99 13:25:17
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "Simon Bowring" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 05:32:13 GMT, David Thacker wrote:

>Thanks for the tip Simon, I was not aware of the EXTPROC feature.  However,
>this only seems to work if the extproc command is within a .cmd (and
>probably .bat) file.  If I place it within a .pl or .cgi file, it still
>doesn't trick cmd.exe into running the extproc command if I try to execute
>the .pl or .cgi file directly.  Eg. trying to run test.pl still generates a
>"not a command file" error.
>
>Thanks anyway, though, I'm sure I'll find a use for extproc sometime.

Oops - yes forgot about that. You *could* still use EXTPROC if you:

1. Rename (or copy) all appropriate .pl files to .cmd files
   (Note there may be good reasons why you cannot do this).
2. Ensure all the renamed .pl files begin with "EXTPROC X:/path/perl.exe"
   (or whatever the path to your perl interpreter is).

As I said, EXTPROC may not be a suitable solution for you!

Regards

Simon Bowring


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From: [e-mail]                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <[e-mail]>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located.
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$[e-mail]>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <[e-mail]> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >[e-mail]         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [e-mail]
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                    03-Nov-99 18:17:03
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:12
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "Antonio Relyea" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 23:10:34 GMT, David Thacker wrote:

>What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files (*.pl) with
>c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply by entering the
>filename (eg. test.pl).
>
try downloading http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/open201.zip

It is a simple file called open.exe.  If you type "open dog.txt" then it
behaves as if you had double-clicked on it from the WPS.  It works for
folders and what not as well.

Hope this helps.

Tony.


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From: sleeman@*nospam*ottawa.com                        04-Nov-99 00:42:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:12
Subj: DualStor Restore (help?)

From: "Spencer Lee" <sleeman@*nospam*ottawa.com>

Hello all OS/2 gurus,

Got a bit of a problem I'm hoping someone here can offer advice for.

I have a customer sending me a back up of a bunch of files on QIC-80 tapes
from a PS/2 machine running OS/2, and backed up with DualStor.

I need to get these files into a Windows machine.

I am getting a copy of OS/2, and I have a Colorado Jumbo 250 tape drive,
which I understand DualStor supports, so I could (if I had a copy of
DualStor) set up an OS/2 computer on my network, restore the files, and copy
them over to a Windows box (I think).

Questions:

Is there a Windows version of DualStor which will restore the files from the
OS/2 DualStor backup? (from what I've gathered, the files that DualStor
creates on the tape are 'EA' files - not sure if the Windows version uses
the same format).

What do I have to do, and where can I get a copy of the DualStor software
that I need?


Thanks muchly,

Sleeman


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From: [e-mail]                                  03-Nov-99 17:50:13
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse -- Kensington's Amazing Adv

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

I have the same four lines in my CONFIG.SYS (with changes per directory
structure). I also copied the content shown below for EXSTART.INI into a
manually created file (which should have been created automatically by the
installation program), all this with no result. The symptoms remain: the
Kensington driver does not load.

Two email messages to Kensington have brought me an email resonse from the
company. It is so surprising that I want to share its text with users of
this group:

******Kensington Support Message Follows*******
Dear Stan,

If you are running OS/2 Warp by itself then our mouse will only show as a 2
button mouse.

If you are running OS/2 on top of Windows then we suggest you install v5.30
off our web to which should give you all 4 buttons.

We do not provide technical support for the OS/2 Operating System itself.

If you have any further questions or concerns PLEASE USE FORWARD to
reply back to us, fax us, or you can call us on this matter due to we
may better help you over the phone (number and hours listed below).
Thank you for your continued interest in Kensington products.
***************Ends*****************

No, for the record, I am not running OS/2 over Windows; I am running OS/2
all by itself, suspended, as it were, in the air.

Now that I have exhausted the depth of the advice available from Kensington
"Technical Support", can anyone tell me how to address a message (by email,
fax, paper mail, or carrier pigeon) to someone at Kensington who may be
interested in the kind of twit that is giving out advice to paying
customers?

Any advice about the driver problem will be gratefully received.


 Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:00:01, [e-mail] (John M. Garth) wrote:

> In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-Wdzp2JsztICv@POBLANO>,
> [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
> >I would like to be able to run the manufacturer's driver, and to make use
> >of all four buttons on this device. Does anyone know how to do this?
>
> I have the mouse drivers installed in the OS2 directory (my boot drive
> is D):
>
> DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
> DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
> REM DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
> DEVICE=D:\OS2\EXMOUSE2.SYS
>
> The EXSTART.INI file is in D:\OS2, and looks like this:
>
> [ExStartup]
> Version=4.00
> [ExDefault]
> Version=4.00
> Acceleration=9
> Left=Left
> Right=Right
> Middle=DoubleLeft
> TopRight=LockRight
> Chord=Chord
> ChordSpeed=96
>
> All 4 buttons work OK for me.  Hope this helps.
>
> John M. Garth                                           [e-mail]
> --
> "Well as answers go, short, to the point, utterly useless and totally
> consistent with what I've come to expect from a Vorlon." - John Sheridan
> "The Vorlons are Windows '95." - J. M. Straczynski

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: [e-mail]

In <7vlcc5$b1o$[e-mail]>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <[e-mail]> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California
>                          USA

>[e-mail]         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



--
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51

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From: [e-mail]                             03-Nov-99 20:11:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: DualStor Restore (help?)

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

IBM abandoned DualStor two years (or more) ago. You might be able to pick up a
copy somewhere -- ebay?

Ver. 2.0 handled the 250MB (compressed) tapes. Ver. 3.0 handled 800MB
(compressed) tapes.

As for the 'EA' bit: OS/2 makes use of "extended attributes" (EAs) that can be
used to store all kinds of information such as date and time of last access,
associations, descriptive filename. Using OS/2's High Performance File System
(HPFS), the EAs are stored as part of the file/directory structure; using the
DOS/Win FAT file system, the EAs are stored in a file on each drive named EA
DATA. SF (note the two spaces).

If the files you are restoring are data files, I assume that the loss of any
EAs
is of no consequence.

Alan

Spencer Lee wrote:

> Hello all OS/2 gurus,
>
> Got a bit of a problem I'm hoping someone here can offer advice for.
>
> I have a customer sending me a back up of a bunch of files on QIC-80 tapes
> from a PS/2 machine running OS/2, and backed up with DualStor.
>
> I need to get these files into a Windows machine.
>
> I am getting a copy of OS/2, and I have a Colorado Jumbo 250 tape drive,
> which I understand DualStor supports, so I could (if I had a copy of
> DualStor) set up an OS/2 computer on my network, restore the files, and copy
> them over to a Windows box (I think).
>
> Questions:
>
> Is there a Windows version of DualStor which will restore the files from the
> OS/2 DualStor backup? (from what I've gathered, the files that DualStor
> creates on the tape are 'EA' files - not sure if the Windows version uses
> the same format).
>
> What do I have to do, and where can I get a copy of the DualStor software
> that I need?
>
> Thanks muchly,
>
> Sleeman

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From: [e-mail]                                  03-Nov-99 19:08:21
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse -- Kensington's Amazing Adv

From: [e-mail] (John M. Garth)

In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-UbFnjMoQzwvV@POBLANO>,
[e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
>I have the same four lines in my CONFIG.SYS (with changes per directory
>structure). I also copied the content shown below for EXSTART.INI into a
>manually created file (which should have been created automatically by the
>installation program), all this with no result. The symptoms remain: the
>Kensington driver does not load.

... snipped ...

I have Kensington expert "mice" installed on 3 machines running OS/2.  I
had been really pleased with their driver support for OS/2 until I read
your post containing their response to your question.  Damn.

Anyway, if you would like me to email you a copy of the installation
diskette that is working for me, please let me know, either via this
newsgroup or by email.

--
John M. Garth                                           [e-mail]

"Well as answers go, short, to the point, utterly useless and totally
consistent with what I've come to expect from a Vorlon." - John Sheridan
"The Vorlons are Windows '95." - J. M. Straczynski

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From: [e-mail]                                  04-Nov-99 09:25:15
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse -- Kensington's Amazing Adv

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:08:42, [e-mail] (John M. Garth) wrote:

> In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-UbFnjMoQzwvV@POBLANO>,
> [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
> >I have the same four lines in my CONFIG.SYS (with changes per directory
> >structure). I also copied the content shown below for EXSTART.INI into a
> >manually created file (which should have been created automatically by the
> >installation program), all this with no result. The symptoms remain: the
> >Kensington driver does not load.
>
> .... snipped ...
>
> I have Kensington expert "mice" installed on 3 machines running OS/2.  I
> had been really pleased with their driver support for OS/2 until I read
> your post containing their response to your question.  Damn.
>
> Anyway, if you would like me to email you a copy of the installation
> diskette that is working for me, please let me know, either via this
> newsgroup or by email.

No, but many thanks. I have got it to work by putting the files in the
C:\OS2 directory. When the installation program asked me where I wanted
them, I gave another destination, and the install did what I told it --
then the driver refused to work. The Control Panel program still doesn't
work, but I can give that up.

In the meantime, I have received another missive from the Head Technical
Support Honcho at Kensington, as follows:

*****Kensington Ponitification Follows*****
> Sorry for any inconvenience, but the fact is Kensington does not support
> OS2.  Yes at one time Kensington had posted MouseWorks 4.22 for OS2, but it
> was long ago.  I also apologize if you feel that you have been misinformed,
> but running OS2 you have the option to run it as its own operating system or
> it will coexist with a Windows operating system.
*******************Ends********************

Someone mentioned recently that he is using a Logitec trackball. I will
look into that next time I need a new trackball.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]                    04-Nov-99 13:50:04
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: "Simon Bowring" <[e-mail]>

>It is a simple file called open.exe.  If you type "open dog.txt" then it
>behaves as if you had double-clicked on it from the WPS.  It works for
>folders and what not as well.
>
>Hope this helps.
Can't see how it will - why is typeing "Open perlscript.pl" better
than typing "perl perlscript.pl"?

The idea is to be able to type (just) "perlscript".

Simon B.


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From: [e-mail]                           04-Nov-99 14:52:22
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:50:09, "Simon Bowring"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> >It is a simple file called open.exe.  If you type "open dog.txt" then it
> >behaves as if you had double-clicked on it from the WPS.  It works for
> >folders and what not as well.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> Can't see how it will - why is typeing "Open perlscript.pl" better
> than typing "perl perlscript.pl"?
>
> The idea is to be able to type (just) "perlscript".
>

I apologize if this is a bit off topic but it seems
to apply.

I just tried a stupid test on a file containing

echo off
echo show this stuff

I saved it with the name "test.blob" using e.exe and set
the type to OS/2 command file.

It won't execute from the command line with the command
test.blob

When I double-click on from an icon view it just shows me
the properties. A right click open as -> program also
shows the the properties notebook.

The CMD command line interpreter only seems to be
able to execute command files that end in .cmd
regardless of the "File Type".

There also seems to be a bug in the WPS for
executing files with a "File Type" of "OS/2 command file"
even though it shows the option of starting the file as
a program.

Renaming the file "test.blob" to "test.cmd" lets it
execute in both environments.

This is on WSeB, Warp 4 may behave differently.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                            04-Nov-99 15:19:19
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Harald Eilertsen)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:52:44, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:

> The CMD command line interpreter only seems to be
> able to execute command files that end in .cmd
> regardless of the "File Type".

This is true. CMD.EXE has no notion of filetypes, as that's a WPS
thing.

> There also seems to be a bug in the WPS for
> executing files with a "File Type" of "OS/2 command file"
> even though it shows the option of starting the file as
> a program.

No, the bug is not in WPS, but it's the same problem with CMD.EXE.
CMD.EXE will be started to run the cmd file, but is unable to do so
since it has a bogus extension. This means CMD.EXE will terminate with
an error, and WPS thinks the app is set up wrong. It's the same thing
that happens when trying to run an app with a missing DLL. WPS
displays the properties notebook instead of saying that there's a
missing DLL.

Seems WPS only is able to determine if the app could start or not, and
has no way of differentiate between different errors.

> Renaming the file "test.blob" to "test.cmd" lets it
> execute in both environments.
>
> This is on WSeB, Warp 4 may behave differently.

Think it's been the same since 2.0.

Take Care!
--
Harald Eilertsen
Norman Data Defence Systems
http://www.norman.no/

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From: [e-mail]                           04-Nov-99 17:15:22
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:22
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:19:38, [e-mail] (Harald Eilertsen)
wrote:

> No, the bug is not in WPS, but it's the same problem with CMD.EXE.
> CMD.EXE will be started to run the cmd file, but is unable to do so
> since it has a bogus extension. This means CMD.EXE will terminate with
> an error, and WPS thinks the app is set up wrong. It's the same thing
> that happens when trying to run an app with a missing DLL. WPS
> displays the properties notebook instead of saying that there's a
> missing DLL.

Ah, I see. It's too bad that CMD is not EA aware.

I just looked at my test file with EABROWSE (from hobbes) and
the EA contents show a .CLASSINFO EA as a WPCommandFile
and a WPProgramFile and a .TYPE EA as a
"OS/2 Command File".

The EA's associated with the file have the file type embedded
in it. So CMD "should" look at that to see whether or not
the file is marked as an OS/2 command file and run it if it is.
AFAIK EA are part of the overall file handling, so this would work
even if PM and/or WPS are not present.

Of course if CMD did that then the whole problem with the
Perl scripts would not exist because the CMD
program would execute the perl script, find the EXTPROC
command and run it in Perl.

Live and learn, thanks for the infomation.

What do you think the chances of IBM fixing this are if we
report it as a "bug" in CMD.EXE? :-)

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                     05-Nov-99 09:33:03
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: WIN98 long file names in OS2

From: Ling-po Shiu <[e-mail]>

Hi:

It is possible to read WIN98 long filenames in
OS2?

ling-po

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From: [e-mail]                           05-Nov-99 02:14:04
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: WIN98 long file names in OS2

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:33:06, Ling-po Shiu
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> It is possible to read WIN98 long filenames in
> OS2?
>

Yes (qualifications follow)

If the files are on a local disk, install one of the VFAT
file systems. Look at http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

This will work as long as the partition the files are on
is visible to OS/2 at boot time (ie: not Hidden).

If the files are on a separate machine and you are
using the "File and Peer Services Client" you will
only see the short filenames because of a restriction
in the Windows 98 NETBIOS/SMB network implementation.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                                  04-Nov-99 20:08:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Installation of Kensington Expert Mouse -- Kensington's Amazing Adv

From: [e-mail] (John M. Garth)

In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-t6bNhdhts5nH@POBLANO>,
[e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
>No, but many thanks. I have got it to work by putting the files in the
>C:\OS2 directory. When the installation program asked me where I wanted
>them, I gave another destination, and the install did what I told it --
>then the driver refused to work. The Control Panel program still doesn't
>work, but I can give that up.

I'm very glad you finally got it to work.

I'm still depressed about the Kensington support though.  One of the
machines I have a Kensington Expert Mouse installed on is a dual boot
machine, with OS/2 Warp and NT.  The NT driver acceleration doesn't
work very well compared to the OS/2 driver, and the 3rd and 4th button
mappings don't work.

I suffer from carpal tunnel syndrome, and chose the Kensington Expert
Mouse because of the large trackball, which lets me move my entire arm
instead of my wrist, and the extra buttons, which reduce finger motions
for clicks.  IMHO, Kensington has the premier hardware product for
people with CTS, but they seem to be letting us down with their driver
support.

--
John M. Garth                                           [e-mail]

"Well as answers go, short, to the point, utterly useless and totally
consistent with what I've come to expect from a Vorlon." - John Sheridan
"The Vorlons are Windows '95." - J. M. Straczynski

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From: [e-mail]                      05-Nov-99 08:24:12
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: WIN98 long file names in OS2

From: "Robert Lalla" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:33:06 +0800, Ling-po Shiu wrote:

>It is possible to read WIN98 long filenames in OS2?

Pack the files using ZIP.EXE in WIN98 and unpack them using UNZIP.EXE in OS/2.
Or if you are using FAT32 file system in WIN98, install Henk Kelder's FAT32
driver for OS/2.
If you are using plain old FAT in WIN98, the also exists some WINxx-style
longname driver
for OS/2 but I cannot recommend it.

--
RL


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From: [e-mail]                            05-Nov-99 07:45:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: [e-mail] (Harald Eilertsen)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:15:45, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:

> Ah, I see. It's too bad that CMD is not EA aware.

Yep, agree on that. Actually I find it a bit strange that noone has
fixed it yet. Obviously the cmd line has had no priority at IBM, but
4OS2 should have thought about this.

> The EA's associated with the file have the file type embedded
> in it. So CMD "should" look at that to see whether or not
> the file is marked as an OS/2 command file and run it if it is.
> AFAIK EA are part of the overall file handling, so this would work
> even if PM and/or WPS are not present.

It's a bit more complicated, actually. For "OS/2 Command file"s this
would work as you describe, but why not fix it so it works with all
files? The .classinfo contains the wps class that should be used to
open a view of the file. So preferrably the shell should instantiate
an object of that class using the file. That would require the cmd.exe
to be wps aware.

But of course the filetype thing would help a lot on it's own!

> What do you think the chances of IBM fixing this are if we
> report it as a "bug" in CMD.EXE? :-)

Very slim I would guess, but by all means, report it! They have a form
somewhere on the web for that, don't they?

Take Care!
--
Harald Eilertsen
Norman Data Defence Systems
http://www.norman.no/

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From: David @ Thackernet.com                            05-Nov-99 17:05:02
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Deskop On-Call OS/2 problem with ctrl-keys

From: "David Thacker" <David @ Thackernet.com>

Greetings,

I purchased IBM Desktop On-Call 2.5 for OS/2 a few weeks back (download from
ShopIBM) and have been testing it on a couple machines.  Overall, I am very
happy with the product (and a good deal at $40), but I have come across a
few problems.  There is no metnion anywhere in the product documentation of
a support contact, and submitting OS/2 product defect support forms has been
fruitless.  Perhaps someone else here can help?

1. I connect to my OS/2 DTOC server via web browser from Win2K workstation
using either MSIE5 or Nav4.61.  When I open or view a fullscreen OS/2
session on the server, the client just displays random garbage, and I can no
longer control the server.  On the server, the fullscreen session is
displayed properly.  If I exit the FS session by typing at the server, the
remote desktop reappears on the client.  So, it seems i am unable to work
with OS/2 fullscreen sessions remotely.  Has anyone been able to do this?

2. When I try to send a ctrl-key sequence to the server, it is just
interpretted as the plain "uncontrolled" key.  I toggle the CTRL button on
the client, then press the C key to send a CTRL-C, but the server sees and
interprets only a "c".  Has anyone been able to get ctrl or alt key combos
to work from the client?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

BTW, the DTOC home page is http://www.jp.ibm.com/esbu/E/dtoc

dAvid tHacker


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From: [e-mail]                                05-Nov-99 16:21:21
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:27
Subj: Secure Internet ?

From: Peter Stahl <[e-mail]>

Hi.



I'm connecting to internet by a 33.6 kbs modem using

Injoy + Smart Cache (Proxyserver) + Internet Adventurer

and Netscape 4.61.



Can anyone read and modify my disk from internet while

I'm logged on to internet ?



If so, what good does the Proxyserver do ?

I know it is a cache but is the security better ?



There is a Firewall to bye to Injoy, do I need it

and is it worth it ?



Any recommendations apriciated !





/Peter




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From: [e-mail]                                05-Nov-99 16:17:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:27
Subj: Boot from Zip or Jaz ?

From: Peter Stahl <[e-mail]>

Hi.



I wounder if someone knows an utility that makes me boot

from a zip or jaz drive ?



Is there a program that fits on one diskette, boots the computer

and continues booting from zip or jaz drive ?



I have only SCSI HD's and JAZ-drives.



The ideal was to use BOOTOS2 to make one bootdisk and a

bootable PM-partition on the jaz-drive. But I'm not sure

thats done.



/Peter Stahl




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From: [e-mail]                            05-Nov-99 17:19:02
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Create file association that works from command prompt?

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

I think you might like Henk Kelder's latest release of wptools
http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/
He has added DEFASSOC.EXE, the help of which is:

DEFASSOC version 1.0 for OS/2 32 bits.
A program to inspect associations or set the default association.
Made by Henk Kelder.
USAGE: DEFASSOC assoctype [filter|type [associated_program [/R]]]
 assoctype must be F(ilter) or T(ype)
 use /R to remove an association

Example:
DEFASSOC F *.HTM E:\NETSCAPE\NETSCAPE.EXE

NOTE 1: If an argument contains blanks or is like <xxx>
        embed it with double quotes.
NOTE 2: filters or type are CASE SENSITIVE!


David Thacker wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've been trying to associate certain files with a specific extension to a
> program, from the command line.  Is this possible?  I haven't had any
> success.
>
> What I'd like to do, for example, is associate all perl files (*.pl) with
> c:\emx\bin\perl.exe so that I can execute them simply by entering the
> filename (eg. test.pl).
>
> Anyone figured out how to do this?  I can do it for WPS objects, but not
> from the command line.
>
> Thanks,
>
> dAvid tHacker

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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