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From: [e-mail]                           22-Oct-99 12:35:07
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:00
Subj: Re: How do I? ESS1688 Sound Card

From: "Jim Goffena" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:14:03 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

:>Over in comp.os.os2.bugs some people are complaining about this
:>problem. I applied FP10 to an unserviced Warp 4 with ESS1688 drivers,
:>and sure enough, the trap 000D happens. Installing drivers from the DD
:>pak online doesn't change a thing.
:>
:>Is there a fixpak that gives Y2K readiness without kakking the audio?
:>
:>andrew
:>

fp12 and the latest ess driver on ddpak worked for me

regards,

Jim


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From: [e-mail]                 22-Oct-99 13:00:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:00
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Jim Backus <[e-mail]> wrote:

>IIRC there was a problem with the new CHKDSK that was introduced in Warp
>FP5 that could affect SCSI HDs if they were set up in a particular way.
>SCSI HDs can be set up with or without an equivalent of LBA.  I believe
>that if the SCSI HD has been set up not to use "LBA" CHKDSK32 has
>problems.

I hate to tell you this, Jim, but I'm afraid the problem
isn't with chkdsk, but with the stupidity of Adaptec, and
I'm sorry to say you're very likely facing a complete
reinstall of your data onto all your partitions
Unfortunately -- and I'm fuzzy on the details, since it's
been a while, and since I have since enabled translation for
drives > 1 gig -- the fixpacked version of the AIC drivers
will not allow for untranslated drives (else they simply
default to them, I cn't recall), hence your filesystem
errors.  Chkdsking after this installation, and fixing the
problems I believe only makes them worse.  Still it might be
possible but it's worth trying to fix them.

You need to revert back to the old Adaptec driver -- it'll
work fine under later FPs -- and see if you can rescue your
HD.

I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but
others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing
Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Oct-99 10:18:19
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:00
Subj: Re: Need Help please!!!

From: don mattern <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Bob Germer <[e-mail]> said:
> >> when boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place
> >> in config.sys can t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the
> >> hard disk and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another
> >> time.
>
> >When this happens, boot OS/2 from floppy and run chkdsk /f on the Warp
> >partition. It sounds like you are not clearing the cache and or swapper.dat
> >when shutting down.
>
> And be sure to do a safe shutdown.
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

    but non-criminals get guns legally and can become criminals with
guns!  don mattern

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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Oct-99 18:26:03
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: [e-mail]

In <vB7bjev08iRJ-pn2-clm6560HVgMV@localhost>, [e-mail] (Yuri Dario)
writes:
>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:52:37, Mark McClelland <[e-mail]>
>wrote:

>>Does SMP work
>> well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system?
>
>noticably faster when you run multiple process that needs a lot of
>CPU. Otherwise for standard work it didn't make a great difference:
>but before I was running a single P200, so now I have got an
>incredible cpu power and I can't compare then properly.
>
>Bye,
>
>    Yuri Dario
>

exactly my experience with Warp SMP - no noticeable change when in
single-app mode, but multi-tasking is remarkably enhanced. I wouldn't
want to ever return to single-cpu mode. SMP works *really* well.

--
sig disappeared, sorry

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From: [e-mail]                             22-Oct-99 12:51:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: "G. J. Mattey" <[e-mail]>


Hans Peter Holm wrote:

> Jason Albertson wrote:
>
> > OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
> > This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
> > drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.
>
> The following is from two posts back in 1997. Both suggestions
> worked for me in a similar situation. - Watch out for the name
> of the desktop, if you're using a non-english version of Warp:
>
> If you haven't tried it already, adding the line
> SET DESKTOP=[drive]:\DESKTOP to config.sys might help.
>

I had this problem, too.  The solution worked for me.

Now how do I get rid of all those temporary desktops??


>
> And after bootup. try this little script :
> change "x" for your boot drive
> ************************************************************
> /* Re-assign object id to desktop */
>    call rxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs", "REXXUTIL", "SysLoadFuncs"
>    call SysLoadFuncs
>
> call syssetobjectdata "x:\desktop" , "objectid=<WP_DESKTOP>";
>
> ************************************************************
>
> after that, you can remove "set desktop=..."

G. J. Mattey
UC Davis Philosophy Department

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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Oct-99 01:23:16
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.61 Address Book

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>

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Thanks, Mike.  I actually ended up retyping everything by hand.  I'm going to
save this information, though, so I don't have to go through this again.

Any advice for going the other way (from OS/2 Communicator to Win32
Communicator)?

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:46 -0400, Michael Kaply wrote:

>Trey renaming the exported file to a .4LD rather than .LDI and then
importing.
>
>The file netscape actually writes is an LDIF 4 file, not LDIF.
>
>This workaround is actually documented in the Netscape Communicator for
Windows
>Release Notes.
>
>Mike Kaply
>IBM
>
>
>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>
>>I tried exporting my Netscape address book from WinNT (Communicator 4.61)
and
>>importing the LDIF file into Communicator 4.61 under OS/2.  It didn't work.
>>Nothing happened.  Has anyone else tried this?  Did you get it to work?
How?
>>
>>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>>
>

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From: [e-mail]                                     23-Oct-99 11:23:00
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation

From: [e-mail]

Hi Jens!

>If I go to www.proxymate.com/signup.html, I get a security warning.
>After denying or granting, netscape 4.61 crashes with an access
>violation in JAVAI.DLL.
>I use java 1.1.8 from 28jul99 with option -nojit

That's what I get, too, when JAVA is started with netscape 4.04 on some
pages...

Does anybody have an idea??

Cu!

Andi

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From: [e-mail]                              23-Oct-99 14:40:11
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer

From: [e-mail]

winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but
when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no
mousepointer.

Anyone know how to bring the pointer back?

Keith Cotroneo
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                         23-Oct-99 16:40:16
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

On 22 Oct 1999 14:51:11 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
:>This table identifies what happens
:>when I drag one or more files and drop them without pressing any keys:
:>
:>File(s) dragged    Desktop           other folders
:>---------------    --------------    --------------
:>exe's only         pgm object        pgm object
:>
:>exe's & other
:>files combined     move or shadow    move
:>
:>cmd file(s)        move or shadow    move
:>

You are right even on fixpack 12. I would add *.com file. They have the
behaviour as *.exe files. *.bat behave like *.cmd files.


(My compliments for dragtext 3.1.)

Arjen


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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               23-Oct-99 16:13:10
  To: [e-mail]                                  23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

Message sender: [e-mail]

To: Yuri Dario <[e-mail]>
From: Charles Christacopoulos <[e-mail]>

Hi,

A bit late but just in case you have not fixed your problem yet.  Try
booting from the Utility disks and run chkdsk ?: /F from the A: prompt.

I had JFS fail (see my other postings) although it was supposingly
checked and repaired ... it was not.

--
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Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
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From: [e-mail]                             23-Oct-99 20:11:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail]

Mark Schlegel writes:

> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
> like crazy.

swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
you've observed.

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Oct-99 20:30:01
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28, [e-mail] wrote:

> Mark Schlegel writes:
>
> > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
> > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
> > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
> > like crazy.
>
> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
> you've observed.
>
Probably because an application is able to allocate memory
and never release it.

In order to provide for this "ever increasing" virtual memory
requirement, the OS will allocate more and more space
for the SWAPPER.DAT file.

This behaviour (the growth of SWAPPER.DAT) is common
when applications have bugs that allocate memory but never
release it back to the operating system.

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]                23-Oct-99 16:34:17
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: "Mike Ruskai" <[e-mail]>

On 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Mark Schlegel writes:
>
>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>> like crazy.
>
>swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>you've observed.

Are you being intentionally daft?  What he's saying is that Netscape is
allocating memory, and not freeing it, which is exactly what a program
that wants to fill up swapper.dat must do.

I very much doubt that he's not spent the minimal effort required to make
sure that Netscape is what's leaking memory.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Oct-99 20:04:15
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Ariel <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Mark Schlegel wrote:

> Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat like crazy.
[snip]
> swapping took my swapper.dat from 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few
> minutes and I was able to kill netscape by Control+esc and then
> selecting Close.

> The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of
> images turned off

I want to confirm that this happens - I notice it only when I have images
turned off, and the page loads a very large number of images - a lot of
them the same image, perhaps some of them in the cache already.

This happens also with 4.0x versions, so it's not something new. Turning
on images solves the problem, which is what I did - and then forgot about
it till reminded here.

Also, it not a memory leak exactly - netscape will release the memory
eventually. The problem is that it allocates the memory in the first place
- which it should not IMO.

    -Ariel


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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Oct-99 19:41:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 21:23:15
Subj: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: "Bob Stan" <[e-mail]>

I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape 4.04
and higher.  Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not.  I
also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed.  Since
removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with Navigator
4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at
28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8).
I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all
occurred today and maybe something else is involved.  I thought I would
mention it though.


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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Oct-99 23:47:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation

From: [e-mail]

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-xTt0wxZCMdds@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:

>I use SmartCache, which is a JAVA program, I have just installed Adobe
>Acrobat reader for JAVA (slow, but it seems to work), and the HOTJAVA
>web browser, from SUN, works (there are a few problems, but they seem
>to be programing problems, not JAVA problems).

don't you love the HotJava browser ? looks good, works well (usually),
fun, simple . . . recommended ! ( hope they fix a few of the quirks, tho )
Maybe Java will eventually become useful . . .

>
>Hope this helps...
>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at attglobal.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

--
Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: [e-mail]                              24-Oct-99 05:51:16
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Bob Stan wrote:
>
> I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape
4.04
> and higher.  Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not.
I
> also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed.  Since
> removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with
Navigator
> 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at

> 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8).

    Mine, too. It's rare to get a 28.8k connection. Usually 26.4k.
Although the actual transfer rate reported by the dialer is considerably
higher than those numbers imply: 3.3KB to 5.5KB/sec. Go figure....

> I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all
> occurred today and maybe something else is involved.  I thought I would
> mention it though.

    The site that seems to display this problem most consistenly is
IBM's. I cannot offhand remember a download terminating prematurely
using NS4.61, besides IBM's. Whatever they are using for servers become
erratic (long gaps where nothing is transferred), then the service is
briefly unavailable, then it's back up and the download proceeds
smoothly. Mornings seem to be the worst times, afternoons better.
    If you have a choice, use FTP. It always works. Others have
suggested WGET (check out hobbes) which is also quite reliable and can
resume a partial download.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                              24-Oct-99 05:59:10
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:24
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but
> others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing
> Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever.
>
    And that they are outrageously overpriced.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 08:57:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail]

Mike Ruskai writes:

>> Mark Schlegel writes:

>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>> like crazy.

>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>> you've observed.

> Are you being intentionally daft?

I see you're starting right off with an insult.  Why should I respond
to you any further?

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 08:56:01
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail]

Lorne Sunley writes:

>> Mark Schlegel writes:

>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>> like crazy.

>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>> you've observed.

> Probably because an application is able to allocate memory
> and never release it.

I've not observed that behavior with 4.61, and I frequently enter
pages, then go one level down, then return to the main page.  My
swap file is still at its original size.

> In order to provide for this "ever increasing" virtual memory
> requirement, the OS will allocate more and more space
> for the SWAPPER.DAT file.

It wouldn't be the first time the operating system didn't shrink
swapper.dat.

> This behaviour (the growth of SWAPPER.DAT) is common
> when applications have bugs that allocate memory but never
> release it back to the operating system.

It should be easy to test whether Netscape is leaking memory.  Simply
exit Netscape.

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From: [e-mail]                         24-Oct-99 10:43:25
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 10:19:13
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: [e-mail]

Hi Bob,
take awget1512 from Hobbes
Jakob

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:41:29, "Bob Stan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape
4.04
> and higher.  Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not.
I
> also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed.  Since
> removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with
Navigator
> 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at
> 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8).

> I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all
> occurred today and maybe something else is involved.  I thought I would
> mention it though.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                        24-Oct-99 13:04:15
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: Update Blues

From: [e-mail]

Hi Group Readers,

   Not a bug report, hopefully, just some advice and
knowledge which I must be missing.

   I have recently installed warp3 Red Spine on a newly
assembled system.  No great problems there and one might
call this Stage I.

   Stage II is the loading of software - a few
problems here but hopefully nothing without a solution.
Quattro Pro v5.0 will not run.  Loads the Details/
Welcome/Owner Dialog box then goes no further.  The
situation is similar to one encountered with either
low resources or wrong file/format type.  QP5.0 is
supposedly HPFS aware and have tried it on both a
HPFS and Fat16 partition.  Still that is not my main
and most pressing problem.

   Stage III is the updating of W3.  In an earlier
posting about this (really the reply), it was advised
to visit:-

ftp://ps.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v2.0os2/un64092/

for TCP/IP v3 (from the W3 base v2).

Also to visit:-

ftp://ftp01.ny.us.ibm.net/pub/PPP/

for PPP protocol addition.

   I have gone to these file areas on five occasions but
am not able to download any as I receive an error 550.
I do not know what this error refers to but as my browser/
ftp setup is about 3 years old (a system with Win 3.11)
I thought that maybe the problem might just be there.  Of
course FTP is not exactly an area whereby updating is
done very frequently so I have my doubts if this is the
real issue.  However, I have asked various friends to
help out and they all report problems (different error
numbered messages).

   Could some kind soul give me some advice on this?



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From: [e-mail]                              24-Oct-99 12:46:15
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: [e-mail] (Hans Peter Holm)

G. J. Mattey wrote:

> Hans Peter Holm wrote:
...
> > If you haven't tried it already, adding the line
> > SET DESKTOP=[drive]:\DESKTOP to config.sys might help.

> I had this problem, too.  The solution worked for me.
>
> Now how do I get rid of all those temporary desktops??

I don't have a really good answer to this question. The desktop links
itself to folders, files, templates etc. in mysterious ways (for me!)
so I simply moved the 'Previous Desktop' object into a subfolder and
forgot all about it. You might want to check the size of the object,
and move or delete any large binary downloads from it first.

Deleting the OS/2 System folder from a Previous Desktop object on an
earlier occasion, got me into a lot of trouble with missing objects
on the real desktop. That's a long time ago (1996) and I wasn't really
sure what I was doing, but the power of WPS still scares me a bit. ;-)

--
Hans

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From: [e-mail]                            24-Oct-99 16:12:17
  To: [e-mail]                                  24-Oct-99 14:29:20
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

To: Yuri Dario <[e-mail]>
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Pronk <[e-mail]>

Hi Yuri,

I'm also having problems with JFS (JFSfix loaded, no difference) on my SMP
machine. For some unknown reason ARJ (OS/2-version) isn't able to extract
compressed files on a JFS partition. When I copy the file to either a HPFS
or FAT partition, it works fine. That's the first problem, but a bigger
problem is VACPP (fixpack 8). When I have the Odin sources on my JFS
partition, I can't compile them completely because VACPP doesn't copy the
.LIB files into the lib directory. When I do this manually and restart the
make, it continues to the next DLL, but quits there with exactly the same
problem. When I compile Odin from a HPFS partition, there is no problem!

Can you confirm these problems? It might be a bug that only shows on SMP
machines. If you have these problems as well we should try contacting IBM.
For now I'll format my JFS partition to HPFS :-((, because I don't want to
risk my data.


My configuration:
Abit BP6 440BX mobo, dual Celeron 466Mhz
128 Mb RAM, 14Gb IBM DTTA harddisk
DVD player, HP 7500 cdwriter, Sb 16

Bye,

René Pronk


> yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
> Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting
> during step 3
>
> E:\>chkdsk F: /f
> The current hard disk drive is: F:
> The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
> The JFS file system program has been started.
> CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
> CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
> CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
> CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
> Entries
> CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
> CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
> Tree
>     ....|....
> E:\>
>
> I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I
> tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
> The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be
> completed.
>
> My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.
>
> I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to
> extract at least a few missing files from tapes.
>
> Can you help me?

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From: [e-mail]                24-Oct-99 11:57:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: "Mike Ruskai" <[e-mail]>

On 24 Oct 1999 08:57:17 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Mike Ruskai writes:
>
>>> Mark Schlegel writes:
>
>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>>> like crazy.
>
>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>>> you've observed.
>
>> Are you being intentionally daft?
>
>I see you're starting right off with an insult.  Why should I respond
>to you any further?

Because you seem to enjoy wasting your time, by posting irrelevant
information in response to a properly-formed question.  If you were really
miffed at what you made into a personal insult, you'd have not responded
at all.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 13:26:28
  To: [e-mail], th..               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
From: Mark Schlegel <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:

> Mark Schlegel writes:
>
> > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
> > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
> > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
> > like crazy.
>
> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
> you've observed.

Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat
shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes?
That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?

Mark

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 13:29:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Mark Schlegel <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> Lorne Sunley writes:
>
> It should be easy to test whether Netscape is leaking memory.  Simply
> exit Netscape.

Yes, I did exit netscape, and the swapper.dat immediately shrank.

I've been able to replicate this multiple times on the
computing.net/os2/wwwboard
site

Mark

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 15:41:03
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: NS 4.61 GA (US/strong) sys3175 upon emptying trash

From: Mark Schlegel <[e-mail]>

I would like to report that NS 4.61 GA strong encryption
US/Canada version just gave me a SYS3175:
============ quote of popuplog.os2 ============
10-24-1999  15:32:40  SYS3175  PID 0033  TID 0001  Slot 0054
F:\TCPIP\COMM461X\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1bfac361
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=014ad910  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=00ce0038
ESI=014ad910  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e6c9b03  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c5db0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c5dc4  FLG=00012213

DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000c361
======================================

description of situation

I had one mail sitting "Unsent Messages", I didn't want to send it so I
deleted it.  This of course put it in the trash folder, later I wanted
to look
at the trash folder before clearing it so I opened the trash
folder.  Only the one mail was in there, so I selected File->Empty trash
on
local mail, this was done while the trash folder was still open.
This resulted in the sys3175

I have Netscape 4.61 GA 128 bit strong US/canada version, on warp 4,
FPak 9, 64 megs physical ram.

Mark

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Oct-99 20:21:09
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:47:17, [e-mail] wrote:

> don't you love the HotJava browser ? looks good, works well (usually),
> fun, simple . . . recommended ! ( hope they fix a few of the quirks, tho )
> Maybe Java will eventually become useful . . .
>
>

Actually, it does look like it could be turned into something useful.
In it's current form, however, it is not really usable (at least in my
case). I have JAVA 1.1.8, with the 19990910 update. Two major things
that turn me off:
1) I get into about 5, or 6, web pages, with no problems, but then the
vertical, and horizontal scroll bars seem to switch places (I get a
horizontal bar, instead of a vertical bar), and I can't scroll down to
get to the bottom of a page (I don't think the horizontal scrolling
works either). At that point, I have to close the program, and restart
it, to get another 5, or 6, pages when it does it again.
2) There is no support for encryption. If it had 128 bit encryption,
it would be more usable.

I do use JAVA for other things. I use SmartCache
(http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html) instead of the
Netscape cache (it works in all of my browsers, including HotJava and
StarOffice), and now with the Adobe Acrobat viewer (I don't think I
will use that much, it is just too slow to start, but seems to work
otherwise).

Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                            24-Oct-99 15:19:11
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

AWGet is a great piece of code if the server site follows the rules.  I
have never been able to use it to download Netscape.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
> take awget1512 from Hobbes
> Jakob
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:41:29, "Bob Stan" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape
4.04
> > and higher.  Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not.
 I
> > also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed.  Since
> > removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with
Navigator
> > 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at
> > 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above
28.8).
> > I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all
> > occurred today and maybe something else is involved.  I thought I would
> > mention it though.
> >
> >

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                             24-Oct-99 23:20:16
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:34:14, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>
> And my WARP4 is at FP12, although this was working at
> FP11 & perhaps FP10.  I don't recall what was current
> this past May.  But like I say, I should think the
> Fix Pack level on OS/2 is irrelevant.
>
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!

Thanks Willy,
Yes, I re-installed pinball.sys for the third time and it now seems
to work again. Don't know what was wrong but all's well that ends
well.
Cheers,
--
Dave

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From: [e-mail]                            24-Oct-99 15:32:20
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Backing out FP12

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Has anyone done this?  I tried with rather dismal results.  I think I
understand the fixpack process fairly well, but:

Opened the OS2SERV directory that I installed FP12 from and started in.
Selected the advanced options, displayed the backed up components, and
tried to back out to FP11.  Failed with the following message:

CSF0214: There is not enough space on disk C to continue.

Drive C has 120Mb+ of free space.  Deleted C:\FIXSTART, and checked for
the various IBMCSFLK.* files.  Looked in IBMCSFLK.LST and found a RMDIR
H:\IBMCSFLK (interesting that it would complain about C since it looks
like it planned to use H for a work area).  Anyway, deleted all of the
temporary service files and went back to OS2SERV.

This time I selected FP12 and "Uninstall".  My system proceeded to
reboot twice and came back to life.  SYSLEVEL.OS2 shows FP11 and
SYSLEVEL.FPK shows FP12.  Don't think everything went quite right.

My backup directory is still intact, but I'm not sure what I can do with
it.

I did try using CSF140 instead of CSF141 to do the backout, but I still
get the C drive message.

I am setting here trying to decide whether to try a backout to the
archive and re-apply FP11, wait for some resolution from IBM, re-install
WARP 4 from scratch, or just continue running with a system at some
level.

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                      24-Oct-99 22:14:19
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 21:21:05
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: [e-mail] (Jim Backus)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 05:59:21, James Moe <[e-mail]> wrote:

> > I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but
> > others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing
> > Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever.
> >
>     And that they are outrageously overpriced.

OK guys thanks for the tips - I've got the original Adaptec stuff so
restoring the drivers should not be a problem.  Sometime - a wet
winter weekend I expect - the machine will be wiped and everything
re-installed - I'll make sure that translation is enabled this time
:-)

So if Adaptec is no longer the flavour for OS/2 what is the
recommendation for SCSI adaptors?

Jim Backus  OS/2 user because it's better
bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk

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From: [e-mail]                                     24-Oct-99 22:40:11
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 21:21:06
Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation

From: [e-mail]

Hi!

>Well, the first thing I would do, is remove the -nojit option. Then, I
>would modify my CLASSPATH statement, in CONFIG.SYS, to eliminate all
>references to older versions of JAVA.

That seemed to help! Thanx!
Which compiler is used, when -nojit is enabled???

Cu!

Andi

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Oct-99 19:55:13
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.bugs, James Moe <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
>
>> I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but
>> others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing
>> Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever.
>>
>    And that they are outrageously overpriced.

They certainly are, at least if you choose to purchase them as separate
components.

All five of my main systems here have Adaptec cards, but I've purchased
them all as part of a complete system package, so the card price really
wasn't a factor.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 Anything not nailed down is a cat toy.

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From: [e-mail]....               25-Oct-99 01:59:08
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:56:31,
[e-mail] (Jens) wrote:

>
> If I go to www.proxymate.com/signup.html, I get a security warning.
> After denying or granting, netscape 4.61 crashes with an access
> violation in JAVAI.DLL.
> I use java 1.1.8 from 28jul99 with option -nojit
>

There was an update to Java in September. You should get the fixes
installed. I had a problem with Simplicity for Java (a really neat
Java programming tool that even someone like me [with no programming
experience] can create Java programs with) causing a problem with
JAVAX.DLL. After I installed the latest fixes, I haven't seen the
problem return yet.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Oct-99 23:01:15
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:19:23, Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> AWGet is a great piece of code if the server site follows the rules.  I
> have never been able to use it to download Netscape.

Gotta be sneaky.  Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup
with the full URL, including the password.  Copy that to the AWGet URL
(manually or with DragText and off it goes.  You can then abort the NS
d/l.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                25-Oct-99 05:21:21
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail] (John Youells)

Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Has anyone done this?  I tried with rather dismal results.  I think I
>understand the fixpack process fairly well, but:
>
snip
>I am setting here trying to decide whether to try a backout to the
>archive and re-apply FP11, wait for some resolution from IBM, re-install
>WARP 4 from scratch, or just continue running with a system at some
>level.

I haven't tried to backup to FP11 but I did backup to FP11's pmmerge.dll and
my
system seems to have returned to stability.
Running K62 400,128MB, SP97V, AHA3940 (about 9 scsi devices) AW35Pro ISA,
Elsa3000s (Virge) 4 MB Elsa 1.22 or Scitech Beta9 NS 2.02 4.04 and 4.61GA
(usually a combination of 2.02 and 4.61 in any one session. I was getting a
lot
of Netscape and winos2 related lockups that I didn't have with FP11.



John Youells
LifeStream Computing

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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 06:49:24
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 07:11:25
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

[e-mail] (Jim Backus) writes:

>So if Adaptec is no longer the flavour for OS/2 what is the
>recommendation for SCSI adaptors?

    Any using a supported Symbios Logic chipset (ie. ASUS SC-875 uses
the Symbios 53c875 chipset).  Only chipset that does not have a driver
from them that I know of is their 53c416 line.  Another decent/cheap pick
is a supported Initio SCSI card (www.initio.com).

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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 09:04:03
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 07:11:25
Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer

From: andy <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] schrieb:

> winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but
> when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no
> mousepointer.
>
> Anyone know how to bring the pointer back?
>
> Keith Cotroneo
> [e-mail]

Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned.

DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS

 Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse
 with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below.

 <<=NOTE=>> If you don't have this line (or you REM'd it), you
 will not have mouse support in your DOS sessions.

greeting
        Andreas

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From: [e-mail]                                    25-Oct-99 08:08:25
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Opened the OS2SERV directory
        <<<snip>>>

Chuck, the one time I had to back out of a Fix Pack
was from FP10 to FP9.  And since the problem was that
a driver was preventing me from getting to my
Desktop, I had to do it by booting from my Utility
Boot Diskettes.  I ran the following .CMD file:

SET CSFUTILPATH=E:\KICKER
E:\KICKER\FSERVICE
    /R:E:\KICKER\FP102FP9.RSP
    "/S:E:\Corrective Service!!WARP 4 Fix Pack 10"
    /B:F

(That's actually 2 lines, but I've had to split the
second one because of restrictions of Deja News.)

The long directory name in quotes was where I had the
tree of files constituting Fix Pack 10.  And my boot
partition is F.

This was the response file:

:LOGFILE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SERVICE.LOG
:TARGET ARCHIVE
:BACKOUT
:SYSLEVEL F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2

In other words, I used FSERVICE, not OS2SERV.

And Fix Tool is KNOWN to use a little space on the C
partition, regardless of anything else about your
configuration.  This is documented in the README.  It
means that if you have a multi-OS system, C
absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32 or
NTFS or . . . . . .  I think Irv mumbled something
here once that he was thinking about maybe possibly
perhaps eliminating this restriction some fine day.
I'm not holding him to anything, but it would be
nice.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 13:53:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 14:48:15
Subj: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and
DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get DB2
to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request more
than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops
back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory
monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).

When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.

Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
of memory available to programs, such as DB2?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: [e-mail]                                25-Oct-99 16:21:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Update Blues

From: [e-mail] (Jim Burke)

Did you try to get fixpack 39? It isn't the last one, but I've read it is a
stable one.

I'll check and see what version of qpro I have. Yes, I have 5(but 2 of my
installation diskettes have
bad sectors so I can't install it any longer--just have to copy the program
and the directories from place to place).

Do you install the software through os2 or through windows. I'm a little vague
on warp 3, but there in the system folder
there's a place to search for and add new programs. You can choose dos, winos2
folders, or even individual programs.

As for installing the fixpacks, give Duane's page a shot...
http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html <--- this is another,
Duane's pages were not loading. (I search on Duane Indelible Blue to find him.
)

You need to post some details of your new system (more than some, really) if
you want good advice. Sometimes you'll discover
problems that are caused by hardware, especially video and sound cards.




[e-mail] wrote: <-----this didn't work.


>Hi Group Readers,
>
>   Not a bug report, hopefully, just some advice and
>knowledge which I must be missing.

>   I have recently installed warp3 Red Spine on a newly
>assembled system.  No great problems there and one might
>call this Stage I.

>   Stage II is the loading of software - a few
>problems here but hopefully nothing without a solution.
>Quattro Pro v5.0 will not run.  Loads the Details/
>Welcome/Owner Dialog box then goes no further.  The
>situation is similar to one encountered with either
>low resources or wrong file/format type.  QP5.0 is
>supposedly HPFS aware and have tried it on both a
>HPFS and Fat16 partition.  Still that is not my main
>and most pressing problem.

>   Stage III is the updating of W3.  In an earlier
>posting about this (really the reply), it was advised
>to visit:-

>ftp://ps.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v2.0os2/un64092/

>for TCP/IP v3 (from the W3 base v2).

>Also to visit:-

>ftp://ftp01.ny.us.ibm.net/pub/PPP/

>for PPP protocol addition.

>   I have gone to these file areas on five occasions but
>am not able to download any as I receive an error 550.
>I do not know what this error refers to but as my browser/
>ftp setup is about 3 years old (a system with Win 3.11)
>I thought that maybe the problem might just be there.  Of
>course FTP is not exactly an area whereby updating is
>done very frequently so I have my doubts if this is the
>real issue.  However, I have asked various friends to
>help out and they all report problems (different error
>numbered messages).

>   Could some kind soul give me some advice on this?





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From: [e-mail]                               25-Oct-99 11:41:26
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and
> DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get DB2
> to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request more
> than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops
> back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory
> monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
>
> When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
>
> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
> of memory available to programs, such as DB2?

    Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP
Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the WARP
v3 client codebase.

    Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym_nospam.alia...               25-Oct-99 10:18:10
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: FP12 won't boot - HELP

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym_nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym_nospam.alias.net>

I've installed FP12 over FP8.  It all went well, and on reboot
the locked drivers were applied.

When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175.  The first one is
for smstart.exe.  There are numerous other traps, among them -
\mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe,
\mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll.

The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H  which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and
the P1 code is 00000001H  which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS.

Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring?  I commented out smstart
but the other traps still happen.

I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed.

Any suggestions?  Lavinia
remove '_nospam' from address block for email





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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 18:07:02
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:23:51, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response, Brad.  We have installed all the latest
> fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them.
>
> I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase
> differences.  I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as
> version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-).  I
> suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed
> for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code.
>
> For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by
> installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server.  But we HAVE to
> get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of
> reasons.
>
> Any suggestions?  Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that
> addressed this?  Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it
> won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a
> certain way?
>
> Derek
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > >
> > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0
> and
> > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get
> DB2
> > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request
> more
> > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and
> drops
> > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a
> memory
> > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
> > >
> > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
> > >
> > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> MB)
> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> >
> >     Just something to remember - there is a big difference between
> WARP
> > Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the
> WARP
> > v3 client codebase.
> >
> >     Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?
> >

The most likely thing is the disk cache allocated by HPFS386.

The largest cache size used by HPFS (which is what is running
on the Warp 4 client) is 2 Mbyte. HPFS386 will allocated a much
larger default cache. Take a look at the HPFS386.INI (?) and
see what the max cache size is set to. (I think that's where it
is but I do not have HPFS386 installed on my server WSeB)

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]                         25-Oct-99 17:23:25
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

Thanks for the quick response, Brad.  We have installed all the latest
fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them.

I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase
differences.  I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as
version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-).  I
suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed
for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code.

For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by
installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server.  But we HAVE to
get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of
reasons.

Any suggestions?  Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that
addressed this?  Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it
won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a
certain way?

Derek

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0
and
> > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11.  We've been unable to get
DB2
> > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools.  If I request
more
> > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and
drops
> > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a
memory
> > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log).
> >
> > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
> > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
> >
> > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
MB)
> > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
>
>     Just something to remember - there is a big difference between
WARP
> Server v4 and WARP client v4.  The former is actually based on the
WARP
> v3 client codebase.
>
>     Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed?
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs
>


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From: [e-mail]                                     25-Oct-99 17:40:11
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: "michael" <[e-mail]>

I want to create a bootable floppy diskette to upgrade my BIOS.  The
instructions state that I must have a DOS system to do this and with a
formatted floppy, type "sys a:".  I tried this using the OS/2 Warp 4  DOS
Command Prompt and it did not work.  It didn't recognize "sys" as a
command.   Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 warp 4?

thanks

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 13:51:10
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.61 Address Book

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

The other way should work regardless of file extension.

They have a more robust import utility that was written by a third party.

Mike Kaply
IBM

"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Thanks, Mike.  I actually ended up retyping everything by hand.  I'm going to
>save this information, though, so I don't have to go through this again.
>
>Any advice for going the other way (from OS/2 Communicator to Win32
>Communicator)?
>
>On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:46 -0400, Michael Kaply wrote:
>
>>Trey renaming the exported file to a .4LD rather than .LDI and then
importing.
>>
>>The file netscape actually writes is an LDIF 4 file, not LDIF.
>>
>>This workaround is actually documented in the Netscape Communicator for
Windows
>>Release Notes.
>>
>>Mike Kaply
>>IBM
>>
>>
>>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>>
>>>I tried exporting my Netscape address book from WinNT (Communicator 4.61)
and
>>>importing the LDIF file into Communicator 4.61 under OS/2.  It didn't work.
>>>Nothing happened.  Has anyone else tried this?  Did you get it to work?
How?
>>>
>>>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>>>
>>
>
>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>
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From: [e-mail]                             25-Oct-99 13:56:29
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

>> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
>> MB)
>> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that
reads
   maxheap=2048
Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks
like
   DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
If you find it, change it to look like
   DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works.



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From: [e-mail]                                    25-Oct-99 20:02:22
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <01bf1ecd$98a655f0$4c2b173f@pro>,
  "michael" <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2
warp 4?

Yes, but BEFORE you do that, search Deja News on the
subject of "Create Utility Diskettes."  There's
dozens, perhaps hundreds of posts on the subject.
The way you create bootable OS/2 diskettes is to
execute the Create Utility Diskettes utility in the
System Setup folder.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: [e-mail]                           25-Oct-99 18:08:15
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 16:44:04
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:40:22, "michael" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I want to create a bootable floppy diskette to upgrade my BIOS.  The
> instructions state that I must have a DOS system to do this and with a
> formatted floppy, type "sys a:".  I tried this using the OS/2 Warp 4  DOS
> Command Prompt and it did not work.  It didn't recognize "sys" as a
> command.   Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 warp 4?
>

No you can't. You need a PC-DOS or MS-DOS installation
to do that.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                                      25-Oct-99 01:38:05
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:14
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU

From: "Martin Bartelds" <[e-mail]>

On 21 Oct 1999 11:54:27 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:

:><bad attitude>
:>Quite frankly, if you're truly interested in resolving - or at least
:>working around - a problem you've had for a long time, a little more
:>testing and a whole lot less less verbiage is called for.  The known
:>"cure" is *not* a small disk cache and no RAM cache (as you said above),
:>but simply having both types of cache enabled, regardless of size, or
:>both disabled.  For many, the preferred solution is a large memory
:>cache and a very small disk cache.  Try it, and _then_ get back to us.
:></bad attitude>

<Good attitude!>
Yep, a mem cache of 10 Mb and a diskcache of 1 Mb solves the problem.
When I lower to about 64 Kb, on some sites, the same problem is back.
</Good attitude!>

Yes, I tried configs before posting. There seems to be just a critical
high watermark for a specific site to let NS461 get into trouble.


/martin.



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     25-Oct-99 19:59:13
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:01:31, [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:

> Gotta be sneaky.  Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup
> with the full URL, including the password.  Copy that to the AWGet URL
> (manually or with DragText and off it goes.  You can then abort the NS
> d/l.
>
> Will Honea <[e-mail]>
>

You had better abort the NS download, before you let AWget/Wget start
downloading (unless it is putting it in a different directory), or you
could end up really confusing things...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                  25-Oct-99 20:28:06
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 19:06:15
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: [e-mail] (Yuri Dario)

Hi Charles,

> A bit late but just in case you have not fixed your problem yet.  Try
> booting from the Utility disks and run chkdsk ?: /F from the A: prompt.

didn't work also this solution.

But now I have something new: I have run chkdsk with debug options and
here is the log generated. What is return code 10081??


The current hard disk drive is: F:
The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
The JFS file system program has been started.
CHKDSK  The current hard disk drive is:  F:
(chklog) CHKDSK  The current hard disk drive is:  F:
(chklog) CHKDSK
DosOpen(...OPEN_SHARE_DENYREADWRITE|OPEN_ACCESS_READWRITE...)
returned rc = 0
(chklog) CHKDSK  DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_LOCKDRIVE...) returned rc = 0
(chklog) CHKDSK  ujfs_beginformat() returned rc = 0
(chklog) CHKDSK  DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_GETDEVICEPARAMS...) returned rc =
0
(chklog) CHKDSK  Primary superblock is valid.
(chklog) CHKDSK  The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
(chklog) CHKDSK  The boot sector has been refreshed.
CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
(chklog) CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
(chklog) CHKDSK  Filesystem size in blocks:  1048233
CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
(chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
(chklog) CHKDSK:LOGREDO:  Journal log is now open.  (major = 0x00,
minor =
0x00)
(chklog) CHKDSK:LOGREDO:  Log already redone!
(chklog) CHKDSK  logredo returned rc = 0
CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
Entries
(chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and
Directory
Entries
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255709
found in file system object FF82259.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82259 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82259 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
254591
found in file system object FF82260.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82260 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82260 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255475
found in file system object FF82271.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82271 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82271 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255742
found in file system object FF82277.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82277 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255486
found in file system object FF82277.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82277 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82277 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
257515
found in file system object FF82412.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82412 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 2 block(s) beginning at offset
257530
found in file system object FF82412.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82412 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82412 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
258046
found in file system object FF82444.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82444 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82444 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
254590
found in file system object FF82554.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82554 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF82554 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
292638
found in file system object FF87088.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F87088 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF87088 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
292639
found in file system object FF87089.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F87089 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF87089 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
277220
found in file system object FF90256.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F90256 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF90256 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
277221
found in file system object FF90257.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F90257 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF90257 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 11 block(s) beginning at
offset 298528
found in file system object FF95707.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F95707 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF95707 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
298111
found in file system object FF95708.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F95708 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF95708 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
298511
found in file system object FF95709.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F95709 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF95709 has corrupt data (39).
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
1983
found in file system object FF101249.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F101249 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  File system object FF101249 has corrupt data (39).
CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
(chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 2 - Count links
CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
Tree
(chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 3 - Duplicate Block Rescan and Directory
Connectedness
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255486
found in file system object FF82196.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255709
found in file system object FF82196.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255742
found in file system object FF82196.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
255475
found in file system object FF82198.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82198 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset
254591
found in file system object FF82199.
(chklog) CHKDSK  Inode F82199 has references to cross linked blocks.
(chklog) CHKDSK  processing terminated:  10/23/9920.42.59   with
return code:
10081.
(chklog) CHKDSK  ujfs_redeterminemedia() returned rc = 0
(chklog) CHKDSK  DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_UNLOCKDRIVE...) returned rc = 0
(chklog) CHKDSK  DosClose returned rc = 0
==============

Bye,

    Yuri Dario

/*
 * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
 * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
 */

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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 12:45:06
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Alan Boritz)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Mike Ruskai" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Mark Schlegel writes:
>>
>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>> like crazy.
>>
>>swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>>system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>>you've observed.
>
>Are you being intentionally daft?  What he's saying is that Netscape is
>allocating memory, and not freeing it, which is exactly what a program
>that wants to fill up swapper.dat must do.

Mr. Tholen is apparently another OS/2 nazi, so, yes, he's being intentionally
daft.

>I very much doubt that he's not spent the minimal effort required to make
>sure that Netscape is what's leaking memory.

Netscape has a memory leak.  Many such memory leaks have been documented
during different Netscape releases.  I've got the same problem here with the
level 5s (9/99) release, along with (less frequent) desktop freezing.

Don't waste your time following up his trolling, since the inevitable
conclusion will be Mr. Tholen turning very abusive and concluding that since
his little OS/2 client system works perfectly, you have to be wrong and that
you're terribly evil for spreading such vicious lies, etc., etc.

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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 05:05:19
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 05:14:20
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Dave Tholen)

Mark Schlegel writes:

>>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>>>> like crazy.

>>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>>>> you've observed.

>>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat
>>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes?

>> It could be.

>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?

>> Why didn't you mention that initially?

> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape
> was the culprit for the above reason.

Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it
might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape?  That could explain
why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent.

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From: [e-mail]                                    26-Oct-99 07:35:05
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:01
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > In article <01bf1ecd$98a655f0$4c2b173f@pro>,
> >   "michael" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >         <<<snip>>>
> > > Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with
OS/2
> > warp 4?
> > Yes, but BEFORE you do that, search Deja News on
the
> > subject of "Create Utility Diskettes."  There's
> What possible good will that do? He needs *DOS*
floppy diskettes!

That's no doubt true, but there is some good.  It's
prodded me to post the following, to add to the
dozens, perhaps hundreds.........

I finally got around to running Create Utility
Diskettes under FP12.  It doesn't work worth a
%#*$!!!!  Well, it doesn't work any better than it
ever has under the past what?  3 or 4 FPs?  After
creating diskette 0 well enough, it spent at least 30
minutes, maybe 45 trying to create diskette 1. I got
2 popup messages saying it had failed to copy
CONFIG.SYS & CONFIG.X (nothing important), and
eventually just closed with yet another one of these:

10-26-1999  01:37:46  SYS3175  PID 0037  TID 0002
Slot 005c
F:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
c0000005
00013323
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000016  ECX=00000000
EDX=ffffffff
ESI=0002150a  EDI=00022ce4
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:00013323  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00e03f8c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00e03fe4  FLG=00012246

BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:00003323

Diskette 1 at that point contained 4 files totalling
about 40K.  Great, huh?  At least it's different from
what used to happen.  Let's call it progress.

The workaround is the same as it's ever been:  rename
AIC7870.ADD (the big pig) to anything else.  Or move
it to another directory than its normal home in
OS2\BOOT.  Then run the utility.  THAT works fine,
creating all 4 diskettes in maybe 15 minutes,
including formatting them.  (Then, of course, undo
your workaround for AIC7870.ADD.)  Of course, this is
no help to people who actually NEED this driver.  For
you, it STILL takes manual intervention to get this
working.

Oddities I noted.  COUNTRY.SYS from FP12 is dated
March 15, 1999 but from FP11 it was dated April 13,
1999.  I'm not seeing any symptoms, but that is a bit
weird.  From what it says in the README.1ST for FP12,
this appears to be correct, however weird it may be.

The 4th diskette is one I always make a couple of
changes to.  First, I add ATTRIB.EXE.  I'm sure
everybody has their own favorite additions to put on
diskette 4. Second, there is a bug in what gets put
on it.  This is a bug I have reported for at least 5
Fix Packs now, if not more.  RESTORE.EXE is not the
current one.  Every other file on all 4 diskettes
gets copied from my hard drive (when appropriate),
but RESTORE.EXE for some reason just isn't.  So I do
it manually.

And after all of that, the diskettes do boot up fine.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 13:56:19
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: Re: OT Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Dave Tholen)

Tony Wright writes:

> here's a classic DT textbook reply<yawn>, predictably daft,

Still behaving like a first class jerk, I see.

> Juvenile - agreed.

Hope you enjoyed wasting all the time you spent writing.  I
didn't bother to read it.

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From: [e-mail]                                  26-Oct-99 01:09:08
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 14:37:12
Subj: OT Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Mike to DT>

> >>> Are you being intentionally daft?
>
Tony to DT>

> > .......and as you're no doubt about to ably demonstrate further,
> > his was obviously a rhetorical question anyway.....

> > So in the unlikely event you can remain on topic and actually post
> > a competent technical reply in a valid context for once, how does:
> >  ----snipped-----

Perfect! ..... (I wish the lottery was that easy to predict<vbg>)...so
here's a classic DT textbook reply<yawn>, predictably daft, no attempt
to remain on topic, no technical content and thus completely true to
character<g>
Quod errant demonstrandum :

Dave Tholen wrote:

> I see you're in the same category.

> Obviously not.

> Insults will get you nowhere.

> Irrelevant.

> It's not the first time I've dealt with your insulting behvaior.

> How ironic, given that I was engaged in a technical discussion until
> Mike and you came along.  Naturally, you try to place the onus on me.

Pardon us, we didn't realise it was your personal and private oratory
platform.......
Can't answer for MR but until then I had naively assumed it was a public
forum and therefore invited technical corrections as well as
contributions by default....    :-(

> I have not participated in any other thread on the topic of swapper.dat
> and its interaction with Navigator, Tony.

Same topic and main thread but different sub-threads......   but if your
browser does not have that "threading" capability or you don't have the
ability to use it, then I'm sorry for causing you any confusion....<g>.

However, you could at least exercise some "social responsibility" by
placing an OT prefix on subject line if you had no intention of making
any technical statement....
I'm sure the majority seeking genuine technical enlightenment have no
wish to be unintentionally distracted by my verbiage let alone your
banally repetitive drivel......

> Then why are you responding to me?  So you can satisfy some juvenile
> need of yours to toss around a barrel of insults?

Juvenile - agreed.  However, sometimes in a futile attempt to effect
"communication" one is often tempted to "pitch" at a level commensurate
with the intended recipient.

Somewhat selective response on the content though?
Appears you can only relate to a few frivolous insults and fail totally
to either comprehend or are possibly incapable of elaborating on
anything technically orientated....

I genuinely thought for a moment you might have a valid point cleverly
disguised under your original "irrelevant" statement but you chose not
to seize the opportunity by elaborating... so I obviously over-estimated
both your ability and your knowledge again.   :-(

> I have no intention of trying to have a technical discussion with you.

Pity - as one or both of us might have learnt something.....    :-(

> You obviously can't control that temper of yours.

Oh don't flatter yourself! That pre-supposes any post of yours is
received with some emotion other than despair when it starts to
inevitably deviate from the technical topic.....
If there was even some attempt at wit,editorial flair, eloquence or
originality in your otherwise insipid responses then some other emotion
may indeed be generated even if you couldn't actually promote an
"interest" due to a different or original perspective on a technical
topic.
Just for a fleeting moment it seemed there might have been a hidden
"spark" and (just practising my "firelighter" skills for Nov 5 <vbg>)
with some further encouragement on the topic of the "swapper/cache", a
resulting "star-burst" revelation from yourself might just have redeemed
some of your "daftness".... <g>

Personally there's no "anger" or "uncontrolled rage" required to light
your blue touch paper and launch you into LEO.....  notwithstanding the
fact that most of your retorts are predictably on a par with a damp
squid and just about as technically illuminating ...<g>

> You are a first class jerk, do you know that, Tony?
>
Tch tch...not a very imaginative insult(where does that scale relative
to a 3rd rate "dafty" I wonder?<g>) -  but Mike is right, if your
that upset and unable to contribute any technical exchange without
getting hopelessly distracted by a few trivial banalities then further
attempts to promote a technical discourse  are obviously futile.

As it therefore appears we're not going to get any technical
enlightenment on the original serious question of memory leakage from
your direction, we are indeed better off not encouraging you further
(until perhaps your next attempted "venture" into "irrelevancy" that
is!).

In meantime I trust this "digression" and your demonstratable propensity
to "seed" non technical arguments into every other discussion haven't
"polluted" too many other "sub threads" on this particular topic and
original poster does indeed receive far more appropriate and useful
technical feedback.
--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]
Portsmouth-Hampshire-UK

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"

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From: [e-mail]                           26-Oct-99 16:26:24
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

This isn't much of an idea, and you probably have tried it, but
here it is anyway (actually it's a question), have you determined
what the break point is in allocating larger buffer pools,
like 32 MByte, 64 MByte etc?

My test and development system is running WSeB and DB2 v6.1
(on a crummy 128 MByte RAM) so I can't even make an attempt
to see if the large pool allocation failure happens.

Lorne Sunley

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01, [e-mail] wrote:

> Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
> configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
>
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
> >
> > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> > >> MB)
> > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line
> that
> > reads
> >    maxheap=2048
> > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys
> that looks
> > like
> >    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
> > If you find it, change it to look like
> >    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
> > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still
> works.
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: [e-mail]                              25-Oct-99 22:56:12
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer

From: "Hans Andrießen" <[e-mail]>

andy schrieb:

> > winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but
> > when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no
> > mousepointer.
> >
> > Anyone know how to bring the pointer back?

> Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned.
>
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
>
>  Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse
>  with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below.

Also the same could be happend if the graphics-driver
in external Windows is different state/version, or the
resolution is different whitch is used in OS/2

Bye/2
Hans

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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 13:02:07
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
>that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
>429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
I guarantee you that it IS a case of memory allocation, somehow. Please check
the
parameters I suggested. I doubt that memstat is telling you anything
meaningful.


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From: [e-mail]                                  26-Oct-99 15:46:26
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:01
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:53:58 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same
>database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine.
>
>Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB)
>of memory available to programs, such as DB2?

I'm not a Lan Server expert, but I found this a bit back and maybe it is an
option. If not it would allow you to down to the Warp 3 base.

http://www.sbt.net.au/sbt/WServeronW4/0000fm.htm

>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

Michael K Greene <[e-mail]>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: [e-mail]                              26-Oct-99 09:48:05
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Alan Boritz)

In article <7v3cr2$53v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dave
Tholen) wrote:
>Mark Schlegel writes:
>
>>>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>>>>> like crazy.
>
>>>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>>>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>>>>> you've observed.
>
>>>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat
>>>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes?
>
>>> It could be.
>
>>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?
>
>>> Why didn't you mention that initially?
>
>> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape
>> was the culprit for the above reason.
>
>Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it
>might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape?  That could explain
>why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent.

Not likely.  I run almost always with Java and Javascript disabled and it
continues here, too.

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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 21:11:10
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Netscape 4.04 freezes System

From: [e-mail]

Hi folks!

5 Minutes ago, I had a real System hang (not even the mouse cursor was
moving),
while loading a web page which started java (1.1.8), Warp4, FP7
I had several other programs running, i.g. ICQ for java which transferred a
big file,
FTP server with users logged in...

This went ok until I loaded this particular webpage.
Java 1.1.8 seems to have some bugs!
Is there a fix available??

Thanxx in advance!

Andi

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From: [e-mail]                              26-Oct-99 18:21:19
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:08
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: "Mark O. Schlegel" <[e-mail]>

Dave Tholen wrote:
>
> Mark Schlegel writes:

> >>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?
>
> >> Why didn't you mention that initially?
>
> > It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape
> > was the culprit for the above reason.
>
> Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it
> might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape?  That could explain
> why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent.

I had Java turned off in the Advanced panel and
http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
doesn't use java (that's the page where I had the problem occur when I did
a
Back to the main page)

Mark

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From: [e-mail]                                     26-Oct-99 20:40:18
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:08
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> ...
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
> Any ideas?
>

It is a long time since I last installed DB/2 and I do not remember the
important issues, but maybe you should look at the install log? Perhaps
something did not go quite as it should, but still works on the client? A
tiny misplaced comma or semicolon in a config file or installation script?

Other ways to isolate the cause: Install the server software on the Warp 3
client where it works, but do not install 386 HPFS. Does this work? If yes,
install 386 HPFS. That should be identical to your server. If it works, you
have somehow removed the cause of the problem. If not, you have pinpointed
it.



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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 17:36:21
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: READ THIS: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: [e-mail]

Regarding making up the utility disks and the AIC problem,

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:

>The workaround is the same as it's ever been:  rename
>AIC7870.ADD (the big pig) to anything else.  Or move
>it to another directory than its normal home in
>OS2\BOOT.  Then run the utility.  THAT works fine,
>creating all 4 diskettes in maybe 15 minutes,
>including formatting them.

IT WORKS!!  I renamed AIC7870ADD.  It apparently forces the program to load
the
small version from CD, giving it working room.  My utility disks work now!

Now if I could get Bootos2 to work.....  It stalls with a "Disk full" error
when
I use the 2DISK switch and the source=[hard drive] switch.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                               26-Oct-99 21:53:02
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:31, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I've seen reports of failures to create the diskettes. Have you checked
> "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If you didn't, it has
> always worked. Check it and it failed after FP 9 or 10, forgot which,
> but WAS supposed to be fixed under FP 12.
>

I did check use files from hard drive.  When I checked, the July 99
version of ibm1s506.add was on the floppy, so I know it worked.  FWIW
the config sys had a device driver rem'd out, and that driver wasn't
on the floppy.  Maybe something in the routine was smart enough to
delete an unneeded file?

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From: [e-mail]                              26-Oct-99 22:59:01
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Hans Andrie▀en" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>andy schrieb:
>
>> > winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but
>> > when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no
>> > mousepointer.
>> >
>> > Anyone know how to bring the pointer back?
>
>> Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned.
>>
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
>>
>>  Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse
>>  with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below.

This devices driver statement is there. The mouse works fine
seamlessly, just not in full screen.

>
>Also the same could be happend if the graphics-driver
>in external Windows is different state/version, or the
>resolution is different whitch is used in OS/2
>

Don't know how to check this. My external windows is win95
not 3.1. Resolution in win95 is the same. How do I check the state/version?


Keith Cotroneo
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    26-Oct-99 19:03:04
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <3815a930.0@news>, "David Johnston" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I downloaded & applied FP12.  I could see no obvious way to load the fp onto
>a cd (then apply from cd).  I was forced to used the 17 (I think) diskettes
>which seems absolutely archaic.  Am I missing something?  Is there a way to
>copy all the files to cd then run the fp from cd?

There is a method documented on the VOICE website
(http://www.os2voice.org) that deals with applying Fixpaks from
downloaded IMAGE or ZIP files. Follow the instructions (follow the
link to EZ Reference) and then simply burn the results to a CD.

Worked for me :-)

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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 15:39:00
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.

But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.

It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
running programs.

Any ideas?

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Scott E. Garfinkle" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64
> >> MB)
> >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2?
> Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line
that
> reads
>    maxheap=2048
> Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys
that looks
> like
>    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS
> If you find it, change it to look like
>    DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS  /lsl=2m
> If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still
works.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                         27-Oct-99 01:06:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:10
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Dave Tholen)

Alan Boritz writes:

>> Mark Schlegel writes:

>>>>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>>>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>>>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>>>>>> like crazy.

>>>>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>>>>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>>>>>> you've observed.

>>>>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat
>>>>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes?

>>>> It could be.

>>>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?

>>>> Why didn't you mention that initially?

>>> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape
>>> was the culprit for the above reason.

>> Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it
>> might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape?  That could explain
>> why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent.

> Not likely.  I run almost always with Java and Javascript disabled and it
> continues here, too.

Quite a change in tone from your last missive.  Glad to see you're
contributing information, rather than invective.

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From: [e-mail]                         27-Oct-99 01:11:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Dave Tholen)

Mark Schlegel writes:

>>>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right?

>>>> Why didn't you mention that initially?

>>> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape
>>> was the culprit for the above reason.

>> Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it
>> might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape?  That could explain
>> why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent.

> I had Java turned off in the Advanced panel and
> http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
> doesn't use java (that's the page where I had the problem occur when I did
> a Back to the main page)

Did you try toggling the load images item, as suggested by somebody
else?

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From: [e-mail]                         26-Oct-99 20:25:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??)

From: [e-mail] (Peter McMorran)

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/25/99
   at 09:30 PM, Will Honea <[e-mail]> said:



>Doug Bissett wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:01:31, [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:
>>
>> > Gotta be sneaky.  Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup
>> > with the full URL, including the password.  Copy that to the AWGet URL
>> > (manually or with DragText and off it goes.  You can then abort the NS
>> > d/l.
>> >
>> > Will Honea <[e-mail]>
>> >
>>
>> You had better abort the NS download, before you let AWget/Wget start
>> downloading (unless it is putting it in a different directory), or you
>> could end up really confusing things...

>Did I forget to mention that? <g>.  Actually, because I have
>Wget using it's own unique folder this only happened once.  As
>it turns out, the two d/l's actually managed to sort it out and
>Wget finished after I canceled NS.  Not a recommended operation
>tho - thanks for mentioning it.

Actually, you can be even trickier and preserve the partially
downloaded file. Just wait for the Nescape download to die. Then
wget -c http://.... in the directory containing the partial file.
wget then picks up where Netscape left off.

Cheers,
Peter

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From: [e-mail]                          27-Oct-99 00:25:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article <7v4hul$5ue$[e-mail]>:
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.

No wonder!  You should have started with this.

You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an
application (at least with the "standard" setup).  Some people claim
that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary,
but only a tiny bit.

This is the part of "640K should be enough for anything" mentality
which is hardwired into the way OS/2 memory manager works.  I have
seen claims that WSeB lifts this barrier *a lot*, but you need a
special option to DosAllocMem() (sp?), and the allocated addresses are
(probably?) useless as arguments to many system calls (those which go
through 16bit calls).

Ilya

P.S.  Again, it is virtual memory, so it has nothing to do with the
      amount of "free" memory on your system (whatever this might
      mean).

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From: [e-mail]                            26-Oct-99 15:25:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Mirco Miranda <[e-mail]>

David Johnston wrote:

> I downloaded & applied FP12.  I could see no obvious way to load the fp onto
> a cd (then apply from cd).  I was forced to used the 17 (I think) diskettes
> which seems absolutely archaic.  Am I missing something?  Is there a way to
> copy all the files to cd then run the fp from cd?
>
> Thanks!
>
> David Johnston
> The Members Group

See on hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu)
There are program like SimplyFix (or similar)

Bye, Mirco.

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From: [e-mail]                                26-Oct-99 20:10:22
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:33:58, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:

Irv, the QF11 program contains a substitute for LOADDSKF call DSKXTRCT
which greatly simplifies this unpacking by writing the image data
directly to the hard drive, paths and all.  It also includes more
error
checking than LOADDSKF and will handle most of the image generation
revisions.  I used to get really iritated when trying to unpack disk
images from the LAN group when they used a version of SAVEDSKF that
only
their very old version of LOADDSKF would work with (good luck finding
it!).  Of course, being
IBM you can't suggest this alternate program but you might find the
info useful <g>.

> Documented in the FixTool READ.ME file, section 6 :
>
> ===========
> Section 6.  How to Set Up the FixTool for Remote Installation
>
>   To speed up FixPak installation or to setup a FixPak on a LAN drive
>   for use by others (Redirected Install), follow these steps.
>
>   Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy
> Disk
>   program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy
> Disk).
>
>   In the following examples, d: is the working drive and j: is the
> Virtual
>   Floppy drive.  Replace this with the drive letters you use.  Also in
> these
>   examples, XR_W035 is the FixPak name.
>
>   First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example,
>   run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory.
>
> |       cs_141.exe d:\csf
>
>   Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images.
>
>         loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q
>         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
>         loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q
>         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
>         ...
>         ...
>         ...        <repeat for each disk image in the FixPak>
>
>   Install the FixPak by running service.exe.
>
>         set csfutilpath=d:\csf
>         set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035
>         d:
>         cd csf
>         service  (or start service)
>
>   You can also apply service by running fservice.exe with a response
> file.
>
>         d:
>         cd csf
>         fservice /r:d:\csf\response.wp3 /s:d:\xr_w035
>
>   This will apply the FixPak to all serviceable partitions.  If you want
>   to make the response file specific to a partition (drive) then you
> need
>   to change the :SYSLEVEL and :ARCHIVE lines in response.wp3:
>
>         :SYSLEVEL \OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
>         :ARCHIVE \ARCHIVE
>
>         -- should be changed to --
>
>         :SYSLEVEL x:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
>         :ARCHIVE x:\ARCHIVE
>
>   where x: is the drive you want serviced.
> ===================

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                             26-Oct-99 19:34:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <7ut4pg$nc1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>Mark Schlegel writes:
>
>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>> like crazy.
>
>swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>you've observed.

What an odd posting.  Hm.

It wouldn't be that we're getting close to something,
would it.  What is the extra memory for?  What's done with it?


Joe

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada




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From: [e-mail]                         27-Oct-99 02:32:21
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: [e-mail] (Dave Tholen)

Joe Kovacs writes:

>> Mark Schlegel writes:

>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
>>> like crazy.

>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating
>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior
>> you've observed.

> What an odd posting.  Hm.

What's odd about it?  I've been reading the OS/2 newsgroups since they
were created.  I've seen numerous reports of swapper.dat not shrinking,
with complaints that the latest FixPak (at the time) didn't solve the
problem.  Meanwhile, I've not observed the problem with Netscape.  So,
what's allegedly odd about my posting?

> It wouldn't be that we're getting close to something, would it.

Talk about odd postings!  Exactly what are you trying to suggest here?

> What is the extra memory for?  What's done with it?

Could you be more specific?

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From: [e-mail]                     27-Oct-99 04:03:25
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Mark,

Here's a few items of note regarding this problem...

(1) It doesn't appear to have to do with going back and forth
between those pages.  Just loading the page
http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
will cause the problem.

(2) Having image-loading turned off is a key factor; turning
on the automatic-load-images setting makes the page load
just fine.

(3) Those pages have large tables (the one on the page I
listed above has 532 rows and 4 columns, so that's over
2000 cells), and the table is set up to have equal row heights,
so the entire table must be calculated before anything can be
displayed.

(4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of
those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the
deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things.
After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down
more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete.

(5) This problem happens on the Windows 4.61 as well.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation



Mark Schlegel wrote:

> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
> like crazy.  This occured to me on pages
> http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
> and
> http://computing.net/unix/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
>
> This occured when I was reading posts in each page then clicking the
> Back button
> to return to the menu of post subjects, swapping took my swapper.dat
> from
> 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few minutes and I was able to kill netscape
> by Control+esc and then selecting Close.  There is no popuplog entry
> because it's not a trap but some kind of infinite code loop going on.
> I have a feeling this happens on pages that lots of single line entries
> each of which has an icon on the start of it (like conputing.net has)
>
> The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of
> images turned off.... [snip]

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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 03:41:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I've seen reports of failures to create the
diskettes. Have you checked
> "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If
you didn't,
        <<<snip>>>

I always have it checked.  Leaving it off doesn't
seem like worth the bother.  I mean, I already have
the original install diskettes.  If you don't check
the box, that's about all you'll get out of Create
Utility Diskettes, it seems to me.  (I know it's not
EXACTLY the same, but to me, the whole point of the
utility is to get the latest drivers onto bootable
diskettes.  Personally, I think what the utility does
should be what happens when the box is checked & the
option shouldn't even be there.)  Thanks for looking
into this, Irv.

> Mark Klebanoff wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:35:10, Bill "Wild Willy"
Kredentser
> > <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 04:05:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article
<381628f3$1$zpunffba$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> In <7v136i$mg2$[e-mail]>, on 10/25/99 at
08:08 AM,
>    Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
said:
        <<<snip>>>
> >It
> >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C
> >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32
or
> >NTFS or . . . . . .
        <<<snip>>>
> Which C partition, or are you inferentially
implying that one must have at
> least one FAT C partition.

I'm not inferring or implying anything.  I'm saying
it straight out.  A C partition must be visible when
you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C.  Primary
or not I don't think matters.  I'm not sure, but I
would think it doesn't matter.  FAT16 & HPFS are the
only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client.
I know HPFS386 & JFS are also native OS/2 file
systems, but I have no experience with them.  There
are also drivers or installable file systems out
there that give OS/2 access to . . . what's it
called?  The UNIX file structure.  And I vaguely
recall reading something about some of the Virus9x &
VirusNT file systems being implemented in OS/2
drivers or installable file systems.  But I have no
experience with them either.  If anybody reading this
can add to the knowledge base here, please do.  Can
Fix Tool write on UNIX or NTFS or FAT32 or VFAT or
??? file system C drives given the appropriate add-on
software?  And what about HPFS386 & JFS?

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 04:30:03
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
>   Before you begin, it is recommended that you
install a Virtual Floppy
> Disk
>   program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or
VFDISK (Virtual Floppy
> Disk).
        <<<snip>>>

But Irv, what about my way?  You don't need any
virtual floppy driver.  And my script is almost the
same as the one in the instructions.  What's the
matter with my way?  Is there some rule my way
violates?  Sure, it's not a totally hands-free
approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you
to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv,
remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs &
megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed
permitted by phone lines.  Phone lines that many of
us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud.
Phone lines that have the nasty habit of
disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads.
Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased
Internet connections to drop conversations in
mid-download, too.  Please comment on my approach,
Irv.  It's posted on this thread just in front of
your post.

> David Johnston wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 04:31:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
>   Before you begin, it is recommended that you
install a Virtual Floppy
> Disk
>   program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or
VFDISK (Virtual Floppy
> Disk).
        <<<snip>>>

But Irv, what about my way?  You don't need any
virtual floppy driver.  And my script is almost the
same as the one in the instructions.  What's the
matter with my way?  Is there some rule my way
violates?  Sure, it's not a totally hands-free
approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you
to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv,
remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs &
megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed
permitted by phone lines.  Phone lines that many of
us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud.
Phone lines that have the nasty habit of
disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads.
Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased
Internet connections to drop conversations in
mid-download, too.  Please comment on my approach,
Irv.  It's posted on this thread just in front of
your post.

> David Johnston wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                   27-Oct-99 01:20:09
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>


"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Here's a few items of note regarding this problem...
>
> (1) It doesn't appear to have to do with going back and forth
> between those pages.  Just loading the page
> http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
> will cause the problem.
>
> (2) Having image-loading turned off is a key factor; turning
> on the automatic-load-images setting makes the page load
> just fine.
>
> (3) Those pages have large tables (the one on the page I
> listed above has 532 rows and 4 columns, so that's over
> 2000 cells), and the table is set up to have equal row heights,
> so the entire table must be calculated before anything can be
> displayed.
>
> (4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of
> those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the
> deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things.
> After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down
> more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete.
>
> (5) This problem happens on the Windows 4.61 as well.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
>

Bad design. Those pages should be broken up.
Folder images lack size attributes.

On my Win box (K62 300, Communicator 4.7) it took 36 seconds to render
the page after it finished loading
On my OS/2 box (P166, Communicator 4.61) it took 48 seconds to render
(not bad actuaaly compared with above)

I design web sites and would have never allowed a page of this size to
be generated. They should limit the number of records returned per page.


> Mark Schlegel wrote:
>
> > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then
> > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you
> > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat
> > like crazy.  This occured to me on pages
> > http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
> > and
> > http://computing.net/unix/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
> >
> > This occured when I was reading posts in each page then clicking the
> > Back button
> > to return to the menu of post subjects, swapping took my swapper.dat
> > from
> > 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few minutes and I was able to kill netscape
> > by Control+esc and then selecting Close.  There is no popuplog entry
> > because it's not a trap but some kind of infinite code loop going on.
> > I have a feeling this happens on pages that lots of single line entries
> > each of which has an icon on the start of it (like conputing.net has)
> >
> > The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of
> > images turned off.... [snip]

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From: [e-mail]                 27-Oct-99 09:22:22
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Carsten Thorenz <[e-mail]>

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
> (4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of
> those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the
> deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things.
> After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down
> more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete.

O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading
is switched off? Do you use a 1MB pre-alloc for each "delayed"
image?

I've tried it with caches set to zero, no java, no java-script,
no proxies.

Theseus3 reports

 88MB/26MB of allocated/committed memory with images switched on

and

 138MB/76MB  of allocated/committed memory with images switched off

when loading

 http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

And, rather unreproducable, the memory-usage explodes when browsing
through the forums. At a time Netscape had allocated about 300MB
before I killed it.

Bye, Carsten

--
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                          elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]                                 27-Oct-99 06:07:14
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail]

In <7v5tm6$6g3$[e-mail]>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
<[e-mail]> writes:
>In article
><381628f3$1$zpunffba$[e-mail]>,
>  [e-mail] wrote:
>> In <7v136i$mg2$[e-mail]>, on 10/25/99 at
>08:08 AM,
>>    Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
>said:
>        <<<snip>>>
>> >It
>> >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C
>> >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32
>or
>> >NTFS or . . . . . .
>        <<<snip>>>
>> Which C partition, or are you inferentially
>implying that one must have at
>> least one FAT C partition.
>
>I'm not inferring or implying anything.  I'm saying
>it straight out.  A C partition must be visible when
>you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C.  Primary
>or not I don't think matters.  I'm not sure, but I
>would think it doesn't matter.  FAT16 & HPFS are the
>only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client.
>

I've read this in the FixRead also . . and puzzled over it, as my C is
either NTFS or befs and the fix tool has never had a problem. OK,
never had a problem that wasn't my fault. Boot Manager's partition
couldn't possibly count, could it ?

>WW
>Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
>
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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 07:58:24
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

Will, nothing is wrong with what you've posted. I can only recommend
what I know works. I've not used the others. Personally, I'd use RSU to
create the directory, just d/l and unzip and then burn the resulting
directory and start OS2SERV. There are quite a few ways of doing
anything. There is NO right way, but we DID document 'a way'.

Irv

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:33:58, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Irv, the QF11 program contains a substitute for LOADDSKF call DSKXTRCT
> which greatly simplifies this unpacking by writing the image data
> directly to the hard drive, paths and all.  It also includes more
> error
> checking than LOADDSKF and will handle most of the image generation
> revisions.  I used to get really iritated when trying to unpack disk
> images from the LAN group when they used a version of SAVEDSKF that
> only
> their very old version of LOADDSKF would work with (good luck finding
> it!).  Of course, being
> IBM you can't suggest this alternate program but you might find the
> info useful <g>.
>
> > Documented in the FixTool READ.ME file, section 6 :
> >
> > ===========
> > Section 6.  How to Set Up the FixTool for Remote Installation
> >
> >   To speed up FixPak installation or to setup a FixPak on a LAN drive
> >   for use by others (Redirected Install), follow these steps.
> >
> >   Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy
> > Disk
> >   program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy
> > Disk).
> >
> >   In the following examples, d: is the working drive and j: is the
> > Virtual
> >   Floppy drive.  Replace this with the drive letters you use.  Also in
> > these
> >   examples, XR_W035 is the FixPak name.
> >
> >   First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example,
> >   run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory.
> >
> > |       cs_141.exe d:\csf
> >
> >   Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images.
> >
> >         loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q
> >         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
> >         loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q
> >         xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v
> >         ...
> >         ...
> >         ...        <repeat for each disk image in the FixPak>
> >
> >   Install the FixPak by running service.exe.
> >
> >         set csfutilpath=d:\csf
> >         set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035
> >         d:
> >         cd csf
> >         service  (or start service)
> >
> >   You can also apply service by running fservice.exe with a response
> > file.
> >
> >         d:
> >         cd csf
> >         fservice /r:d:\csf\response.wp3 /s:d:\xr_w035
> >
> >   This will apply the FixPak to all serviceable partitions.  If you want
> >   to make the response file specific to a partition (drive) then you
> > need
> >   to change the :SYSLEVEL and :ARCHIVE lines in response.wp3:
> >
> >         :SYSLEVEL \OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
> >         :ARCHIVE \ARCHIVE
> >
> >         -- should be changed to --
> >
> >         :SYSLEVEL x:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
> >         :ARCHIVE x:\ARCHIVE
> >
> >   where x: is the drive you want serviced.
> > ===================
>
> Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 08:09:16
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

Bill, this isn't a contest? There are more than one way to do this. I
just provided a pointer to existing instructions. The guy already had
the diskettes don't forget.

Me, I'd use RSU, d/l and unzip, and then burn the resulting directory
and start OS2SERV. 'Almost' foolproof.

Lag on the news groups appear to be quite significant, I only saw the
original when I appended.

You're procedure is what RSU does, minus the few extra files (and
OS2SERV) that it takes down (as well as the proper required FixTool).
Save a few MB's in D/L. The only file there not needed (I think the
FixTool is) is the FTPINSTL.ZIP, it holds the RSU table for the FP, and
the FP README.1ST file which is in the first FP ZIP file. RSU method
should allow you to pickup if you do get a line disconnect as well.

6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of another, your choice.

Irv

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>   Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
>         <<<snip>>>
> >   Before you begin, it is recommended that you
> install a Virtual Floppy
> > Disk
> >   program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or
> VFDISK (Virtual Floppy
> > Disk).
>         <<<snip>>>
>
> But Irv, what about my way?  You don't need any
> virtual floppy driver.  And my script is almost the
> same as the one in the instructions.  What's the
> matter with my way?  Is there some rule my way
> violates?  Sure, it's not a totally hands-free
> approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you
> to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv,
> remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs &
> megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed
> permitted by phone lines.  Phone lines that many of
> us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud.
> Phone lines that have the nasty habit of
> disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads.
> Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased
> Internet connections to drop conversations in
> mid-download, too.  Please comment on my approach,
> Irv.  It's posted on this thread just in front of
> your post.
>
> > David Johnston wrote:
>         <<<snip>>>
>
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 08:19:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:16
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

Mark, not sure what you mean? See below...

Mark Klebanoff wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:31, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I've seen reports of failures to create the diskettes. Have you checked
> > "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If you didn't, it has
> > always worked. Check it and it failed after FP 9 or 10, forgot which,
> > but WAS supposed to be fixed under FP 12.
> >
>
> I did check use files from hard drive.  When I checked, the July 99
> version of ibm1s506.add was on the floppy, so I know it worked.  FWIW
> the config sys had a device driver rem'd out, and that driver wasn't
> on the floppy.

I wasn't the IBM1S506.ADD that did you in, is was an Adaptec driver,
AIC7870.ADD I recall, grew from 70K to 140K I remember (I'm sure someone
will correct me if I'm wrong).

Look in your OS2\BOOT directory, that is where most of the files get
pulled from. The FixTool only lays down files it finds. BOOTDISK (the
program that makes the diskettes) also copies over only files it finds.
The specific APAR is CLOSED, and whatever the fix was for that APAR, it
was reported as working by the customer. Like I said, the fix might have
been only of limited value. I've seen this happen before, the symptoms
are the same, but the causes are different. Sometimes a report isn't
filed (the Interested Parties list was long on this one) because it is
'known', but it ends up not getting fixed for everyone.

If you want, send me the directory list of your diskettes, when I get a
chance, I'll make the diskettes off of my machine and compare them, also
give me the directory of OS2\BOOT. Send it to my e-mail ID please.

>  Maybe something in the routine was smart enough to
> delete an unneeded file?

I doubt it <G>

Irv

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From: [e-mail]                                     27-Oct-99 15:40:05
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <[e-mail]>

Ilya Zakharevich wrote:

>
> You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an
> application (at least with the "standard" setup).  Some people claim
> that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary,
> but only a tiny bit.
>

This is not a normal application, it is DB/2. I seem to recall that it made
good use of 2GB RAM in a previous version under OS/2 2.1. At least, the
server was much more responsive with more memory in it.


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From: [e-mail]                               27-Oct-99 10:56:27
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

OK, the way it works is that the FixTool needs access to C:, plain and
simple. If C: is unformatted, NTFS, or FAT32 (and probably others), it
gets back a bad return code when it uses API calles to find the file
FIXSTART.xxx. This is the file that tells the FixTool that service was
interrupted. If it gets back any error other than 'file not found' or
'0' indicating the file exists, you get the generic error message (which
was not what was happening in this case).

Irv

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <7v5tm6$6g3$[e-mail]>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
<[e-mail]> writes:
> >In article
> ><381628f3$1$zpunffba$[e-mail]>,
> >  [e-mail] wrote:
> >> In <7v136i$mg2$[e-mail]>, on 10/25/99 at
> >08:08 AM,
> >>    Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>
> >said:
> >        <<<snip>>>
> >> >It
> >> >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C
> >> >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32
> >or
> >> >NTFS or . . . . . .
> >        <<<snip>>>
> >> Which C partition, or are you inferentially
> >implying that one must have at
> >> least one FAT C partition.
> >
> >I'm not inferring or implying anything.  I'm saying
> >it straight out.  A C partition must be visible when
> >you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C.  Primary
> >or not I don't think matters.  I'm not sure, but I
> >would think it doesn't matter.  FAT16 & HPFS are the
> >only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client.
> >
>
> I've read this in the FixRead also . . and puzzled over it, as my C is
> either NTFS or befs and the fix tool has never had a problem. OK,
> never had a problem that wasn't my fault. Boot Manager's partition
> couldn't possibly count, could it ?
>
> >WW
> >Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
> >
> --
> misplaced the .sig, sorry

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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 11:46:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 freezes System

From: "Sarnow" <[e-mail]>

On 26 Oct 1999 21:11:21 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Is there a fix available??
 Versuche es mit 4.61
schneller stabiler .........
Tschuss dann

Rainer


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From: [e-mail]                                 27-Oct-99 19:08:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> writes:

>OK, the way it works is that the FixTool needs access to C:, plain and
>simple. If C: is unformatted, NTFS, or FAT32 (and probably others), it
>gets back a bad return code when it uses API calles to find the file
>FIXSTART.xxx. This is the file that tells the FixTool that service was
>interrupted. If it gets back any error other than 'file not found' or
>'0' indicating the file exists, you get the generic error message (which
>was not what was happening in this case).
>
>Irv
>

I *do* know better than to look a gift horse in the mouth . . but . . .

My C: partition has been either NTFS or Befs for ages, OS/2 has been in
an extended logical partition D: for years. I've had success with fixes
from 16 to 42 but memory isn't so good any more - I use fastkick 141
now, but that shouldn't make any difference to what the Fixtool needs,
should it ? It's been over a year since I had a FAT partition at all, but
Service still works fine . . . uh-oh ?  Is it possible that the fixtool gets
the proper return code from the boot manager partition ? here's the
screen from fdisk /query :

Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size

    1 0000003f     :    1    0a      2          0        7
    1 --> LVM     C:    1    07      1          7     1004
    1 --> LVM      :    1    eb      1       1011      509
    1 --> LVM*    D:    2    07      1       1521      541
    2 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
    2 SMP Warp    E:    2    07      1          7      596
    2 0012e00d     :    3    00      0        604      470
    3 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
    3 00003f00    F:    2    07      0          7     4345

the 1 gig on C: is definitely NTFS, tho it shows as the same fs type as
the HPFS on D: and E: . . . .

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     27-Oct-99 19:35:11
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 freezes System

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:11:21, [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi folks!
>
> 5 Minutes ago, I had a real System hang (not even the mouse cursor was
moving),
> while loading a web page which started java (1.1.8), Warp4, FP7
> I had several other programs running, i.g. ICQ for java which transferred a
big file,
> FTP server with users logged in...
>
> This went ok until I loaded this particular webpage.
> Java 1.1.8 seems to have some bugs!
> Is there a fix available??
>
> Thanxx in advance!
>
> Andi

I don't know if it will help, but check out:
ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/ for the latest
updates.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                                    27-Oct-99 19:55:08
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:18
Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette???

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of another, your choice.
        <<<snip>>>
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > In article <[e-mail]>,
> >   Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >         <<<snip>>>

A thousand thanks, Irv.  I just wanted to make sure I
wasn't screwing something up.  I haven't observed any
problems, but this isn't always proof of anything.
<:-))  Again, thanks.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: [e-mail]                                 28-Oct-99 06:35:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> writes:

now here's a case of role reversal ! the hapless user saying something works,
knowledgeable tech guy saying it can't !  :-)

>Don't know what you've got on C:, but OS/2 can write to it. Running
>another device driver to do so? LVM shows a drive you can't write to, no
>drive letter assigned, and other partitions like that.
>
>Two simple tests. Try to copy a file to C:, does it go under the BOOTED
>OS/2 system? If so, the FixTool can use it, if NOT, then I'd like to
>know how the FixTool works under the drive letter assignments below, C:
>- F:...
>
>Second is to make Utility diskettes, or use the Install diskettes and
>escape to
>a CMD prompt. Then see if you can write to drive C:, and which is
>actually C:.

okay, cleaned up fdisk a little, here's the new display :

Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size

    1 0000003f     :    1    0a      2          0        7
    1 NT           C:    1    07      1          7     1004
    1 BeOS          :    1    eb      1       1011      509
    1 Old OS2     D:    2    07      1       1521      541
    2 0000003f      :    1    00      0          0        7
    2 SMP Warp  E:    2    07      1          7      596
    2 0012e00d     :    3    00      0        604      470
    3 0000003f      :    1    00      0          0        7
    3 00003f00    F:    2    07      0          7     4345

disk one - Boot Manager, NT w/NTFS file sys, BeOS w/befs file sys, old
OS/2 install as hpfs logical D:

disk two - e: logical new OS/2, empty space

disk three f: logical

why fdisk reports C: as 07  I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT,
then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second
primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS.
NT has pinball.sys installed as well, but that's a one-way street, so . . .

from OS/2 on E: I cannot open a C: drive object. I cannot write a file or
even do a dir on C: from a command line. Can D-n-D on a C drive object,
but it doesn't really go there. Booted from utility disks you get the C:
prompt,
but do a dir and the message is "SYS0026 The specified disk or diskette cannot

be accessed."  Double clicking on a drive object from OS/2 WPS says "The drive

or diskette is not formatted correctly."

Last night with this setup I fixed my new OS/2 install to level 39,
glitch-free.
Checking Service.log shows no mention of C: (maybe this is dumb, but when
reinstalling I always fp to a level a few shy of where I want to be - if
there's
a catastrophe it seems easier to fix at a level close to where you want to be
then take a light finish cut . . comes from the machining background, probably

stupid . . . )

in summary, as far as I can tell, I cannot write to C: from OS/2 in any way on

this computer (unless there's a secret read-write ntfs driver in the newest
fixpacks ?? :-) but using fastkick 141 and diunpacking the .dsk files manually
Service just whizzes through the whole operation.  Seems to do a correct
archive as well. Is this heavenly repayment for the things that *should* work
but don't ? {VCD player from the Netscape Pluginpak - worked once, have
never been successful again :-(

>
>Here is what I have as a comparison :
>
>Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
>
>    1 OS/2old      :    1    17      1          0     1506
>    1 WINNT        :    1    17      1       1506     1506
>    1 OS2          C:    1    07      1       3012     1953
>    1 009b2b39    :    0    00      0       4965     1176
>    1 00bff04f     :    1    0a      2       6142        7
>
>The first is another HPFS, second is NT, note the FStype, 17, NTFS, then
>the booted drive (NT is another C: hidden), an UNFORMATTED partition,
>and lastly, Boot Manager.

umm, I notice your OS/2old partition is also NTFS ? you have the opposite
situation from me ?

>
>What I believe you have :
>
>    1 0000003f     :    1    0a      2          0        7
>    1 --> LVM     C:    1    07      1          7     1004
>    1 --> LVM      :    1    eb      1       1011      509
>    1 --> LVM*    D:    2    07      1       1521      541
>
>First is boot manager, followed by a drive that appears to be an HPFS
>(06 is FAT), then one I don't recognize, possibly a hidden C:, Linux?,
>followed by another HPFS assigned as D:.

It is actually Boot Manager, NTFS C:, BeOS C:, HPFS D: soon to be NeXT C: -
don't see anything in here OS/2 can write to !

so for some reason my fdisk mislabelled ntfs as hpfs ? If I wanna continue
fixpacking I should *avoid* fdisk /newmbr at all costs ? Maybe this has
something to do with NT's Disk Administrator "writing a signature to the
hard disc" ?

once upon a time, ages ago when I used floppies, I did a fixpack that
took about twenty hours to read the disks. That seemed odd, as the
time before it went quite fast and has never done that again. That
was the impetus to get fastkick and learn a better way !

anyway, it works :-)

>
>Irv
>

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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 09:44:01
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: Paul Floyd <[e-mail]>


Richard Bumby wrote:

> I'm not sure about drivers for the newer TekrAm cards.  Maybe, someone
> can comment on that.

I just bought a new system with a Tekram 390U2W card (dual channel, U2W
and Fast/U). It includes a floppy with DOS, Windows and OS/2 drivers.
Works fine so far.

Paul

--
Paul Floyd      Focal Ingenierie Sud
Mail: paul underscore floyd at focal dot fr

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From: [e-mail]                        28-Oct-99 04:24:26
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:04
Subj: Re: Update Blues

From: [e-mail]

Jim,

   Many thanks for your reply.

> Did you try to get fixpack 39? It isn't the last one, but
> I've read it is a stable one.

The W3 installation has not been upgraded but obviously needs
to be hence my attempts to d/l the files (FP 40 at
ps.software.....un64092

> Do you install the software through os2 or through windows.
> I'm a little vague on warp 3, but there in the system folder
> there's a place to search for and add new programs. You can
> choose dos, winos2 folders, or even individual programs.

Have tried an install both through OS/2 and Windows - both
give the same result.  I feel it is either a resource problem
(Warp Config reads Dos=Low which worries me) or a path issue.
Am still attempting to learn the ins and outs on the various
Warp configuration files and types but am hampered by a
decent file manager ala XTGold.

> As for installing the fixpacks, give Duane's page a shot...
> http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html <--- this is another,
> Duane's pages were not loading. (I search on Duane Indelible
> Blue to find him. )

Wil give this a go this weekend.

> You need to post some details of your new system (more than
> some, really) if you want good advice. Sometimes you'll
> discover problems that are caused by hardware, especially
> video and sound cards.

Nothing in the system should be giving a prob.  It is a
AMD K6-2 350 MHz with 64Mb PC100, 2 x SCSI Diff system on a
Adaptec 2944W (Fat16 on Disk 1, HPFS on Disk 2) with a 12x
CD-Rom on a 1515 (scanner to be hooked-up at a later date).
No sound card installed (still to research this one as my
VideoLogic Aureal chip is not provided with os/2 drivers by
the manufacturer).  The only update to Warps setup drivers
is with the video card which is a VideoLogic 600 Pro with
2Mb on-board.  These are OS/2 specifc drivers.  All other
s/w has loaded ok to present.

> [e-mail] wrote: <-----this didn't work.

Many apologies on this.  Normally my sig file is appended
to posts but seems, obviously, not to be doing so.  A
quick look at the preferences of setup does not show a
setting for this but there is as I have seen it on many
occasions.  AAAARRRRGGGGGHHH - another little job to do.
Anyway my address is:-

    [e-mail]
            or
    [e-mail]

(dont ask about the differences or which one is right
as I dont know and the provider can not work it out
either.  If you find one of them succeeds let me know
which as I sure am curious.  However I do not use the
ISP unless absolutely necessary as their knowledge is
nil and the service is <explitive deleted>)

            or

      [e-mail]

You will have to get the L outta there for correct
address on the quoted


Regards, Kev @ somewhere in virtual unreality


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From: [e-mail]                                27-Oct-99 23:28:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: [e-mail]

Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:

>I have renamed the original CONFIG.SYS in that
>directory & created a new CONFIG.SYS in that
>directory.  The 2 files are almost the same, except I
>have REMmed out all the drivers that are not
>applicable to my system.

I have no SCSI equipment. It has been suggested that I remove SNP files.  May
I
assume that also any ADD file that is listed in snoop.lst as SCSI can be
safely
remmed out.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 04:39:23
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Carsten Thorenz wrote:

> O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading
> is switched off?

Frankly, I don't know.  I just took a quick look at it to see
if it was something that could be easily solved, but the
memory allocations are coming from within the Netscape
layout engine, which is an area of the code we are loathe
to touch.  We're talking about calls that are over a dozen
levels deep, with callback functions and structures/lists
set up to do work later on, multiple connection-sessions
created for the images, etc.

Since it is a bug in the Windows version as well, and this
is obviously a very poorly-designed page, it's really not
something I'm concerned about.  Certainly not worth the
risks involved with changing the layout code.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                28-Oct-99 05:05:20
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 11:18:05
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:35:25, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:21:17, yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
>
> > Regardless of whether this is the same problem or a completely different
> > one, the fact remains that you have a memory cache and no disk cache.
> > Several of us have found that this is a sure recipe for 100% CPU usage.
> >
>
> I have been running 0 memeory, and 0 disk cache, for a while now. It
> does seem to make things MUCH better, but I still see the 100%
> phenonenon, for much shorter periods of time, and not as often. I am
> going to try adding some memory, and disk cache, to see if that makes
> any difference.
>
> It does look like there could be more than one problem, with similar
> indications...

Well, I found something that certainly _looks_ the same - but different.

Using NS4.61, 2048kb mem cache, 128kb disk cache, everything enabled,
this 128bit-encryption-required page produces 100% CPU usage as soon
as NS connects and then takes almost two minutes to be displayed.

    https://www.firstunion.com/FrontLineLogin.html

However, if I bring up the Preferences notebook, CPU usage drops to
"normal" and the page displays quickly.  In fact, if I already have
the File->Save as dialog displayed, the problem never occurs at all.

What can I say but ??!???*??


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail]                     28-Oct-99 13:33:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail] (Frank McKenney)

In <c1.2b8.2Sj18l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
--snip--
>why fdisk reports C: as 07  I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT,
>then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second
>primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS.
--snip--

Minor aside:  FSType x'07' does not, in itself, indicate an HPFS
partition.  It's the flag for an IFS (Installable File System)
partition, which might be HPFS, NTFS, or SomethinEntirelyDifferentFS.
In order to determine the actual file system which laid out the contents
of the partition you have to actually check the partition (as the IFS
module or modules do at boot time).

We now return you to your regularly scheduled mystery...  (;-)



Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 16:51:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:06
Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/21/99
   at 12:11 PM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]> said:

Jeffrey,

Looks like you was right. I have applied pmr00052 fix for pmmerge.dll
found on testcase.boulder.ibm.com and the system is much more stable
now. Too early to say if all of my FP12 problems were actually fixed by
this one, but looks like Netscape is happy now.

Moreover, as a bonus, I found the above version of pmmerge.dll fixed
(well, almost) the problem this machine has been suffering for the last
2 years! See my posting on another thread (Subj: OS2*.INI files
constantly updated after FP12). The annoying periodical rewriting of INI
files is still here, but with the new pmmerge.dll, it no longer locks
WPS/Desktop during the INI write.

Jeffrey, I don't know if you are behind this fix, but anyway - my many
thanks to whoever did it. Great job!

Cheers,
Ivan

>Same here, all sorts of weird memory problems and WPS lockups due to
>NC4.61 after installing FP12:
>------------------------------------------------------------
>10-20-1999  18:16:17  SYS3175  PID 0919  TID 0001  Slot 00c1
>C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>c0000005
>1be3bda2
>P1=00000001  P2=0000007c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=13e8b0d4
>ESI=007c49f0  EDI=007c0004
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=08ab  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>CS:EIP=005b:1be3bda2  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:007c4994  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=007c49c4  FLG=00012202
>PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0013bda2
>Cheers,
>Ivan
>>Dave Parsons wrote:
>>> Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12
>>> I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing
>>> special, just starting to download a new page.
>>>
>>> 10-16-1999  10:11:30  SYS3175  PID 0334  TID 0001  Slot 0060
>>> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>>> c0000005
>>> 1bdfdef1
>>> P1=00000001  P2=00000103  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>>> EAX=178f0028  EBX=0000057c  ECX=00000060  EDX=00000584
>>> ESI=00000584  EDI=000000ff
>>> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>>> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>>> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>>> GS=3503  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>>> CS:EIP=005b:1bdfdef1  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>>> SS:ESP=0053:007c60f8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>>> EBP=007c6128  FLG=00012206
>>>
>>> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fdef1
>>> Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12?
>>I'm afraid it looks like a problem in the FP12 PMMERGE, as far as I can
>>tell.  At this instruction, the EDI register should be holding a
>>pointer to the next free block on the heap, but it is not a valid
>>pointer.  Communicator should not be able to corrupt the free chain in
>>a PM heap, so I'd have to assume that a bug was introduced in FP12.
>>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>>IBM Corporation

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <[e-mail]>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                               28-Oct-99 08:27:02
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

Hmm, didn't notice my machine reported the first drive as NTFS, which is
isn't?

I now suspect a defect in FDISK, but probably in the filesystem
somewhere? FDISKPM is also wrong, calls the x'17' as if it is x'07'? It
IS possible that since 'something' thinks it is an HPFS partition, the
API gets a '2' back, file NOT found, and we then continue?

Will have to look at this.

Irv

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]>, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> now here's a case of role reversal ! the hapless user saying something
works,
> knowledgeable tech guy saying it can't !  :-)
>
> >Don't know what you've got on C:, but OS/2 can write to it. Running
> >another device driver to do so? LVM shows a drive you can't write to, no
> >drive letter assigned, and other partitions like that.
> >
> >Two simple tests. Try to copy a file to C:, does it go under the BOOTED
> >OS/2 system? If so, the FixTool can use it, if NOT, then I'd like to
> >know how the FixTool works under the drive letter assignments below, C:
> >- F:...
> >
> >Second is to make Utility diskettes, or use the Install diskettes and
> >escape to
> >a CMD prompt. Then see if you can write to drive C:, and which is
> >actually C:.
>
> okay, cleaned up fdisk a little, here's the new display :
>
> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
>
>     1 0000003f     :    1    0a      2          0        7
>     1 NT           C:    1    07      1          7     1004
>     1 BeOS          :    1    eb      1       1011      509
>     1 Old OS2     D:    2    07      1       1521      541
>     2 0000003f      :    1    00      0          0        7
>     2 SMP Warp  E:    2    07      1          7      596
>     2 0012e00d     :    3    00      0        604      470
>     3 0000003f      :    1    00      0          0        7
>     3 00003f00    F:    2    07      0          7     4345
>
> disk one - Boot Manager, NT w/NTFS file sys, BeOS w/befs file sys, old
> OS/2 install as hpfs logical D:
>
> disk two - e: logical new OS/2, empty space
>
> disk three f: logical
>
> why fdisk reports C: as 07  I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT,
> then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second
> primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS.
> NT has pinball.sys installed as well, but that's a one-way street, so . . .
>
> from OS/2 on E: I cannot open a C: drive object. I cannot write a file or
> even do a dir on C: from a command line. Can D-n-D on a C drive object,
> but it doesn't really go there. Booted from utility disks you get the C:
prompt,
> but do a dir and the message is "SYS0026 The specified disk or diskette
cannot
> be accessed."  Double clicking on a drive object from OS/2 WPS says "The
drive
> or diskette is not formatted correctly."
>
> Last night with this setup I fixed my new OS/2 install to level 39,
glitch-free.
> Checking Service.log shows no mention of C: (maybe this is dumb, but when
> reinstalling I always fp to a level a few shy of where I want to be - if
there's
> a catastrophe it seems easier to fix at a level close to where you want to
be
> then take a light finish cut . . comes from the machining background,
probably
> stupid . . . )
>
> in summary, as far as I can tell, I cannot write to C: from OS/2 in any way
on
> this computer (unless there's a secret read-write ntfs driver in the newest
> fixpacks ?? :-) but using fastkick 141 and diunpacking the .dsk files
manually
> Service just whizzes through the whole operation.  Seems to do a correct
> archive as well. Is this heavenly repayment for the things that *should*
work
> but don't ? {VCD player from the Netscape Pluginpak - worked once, have
> never been successful again :-(
>
> >
> >Here is what I have as a comparison :
> >
> >Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
> >
> >    1 OS/2old      :    1    17      1          0     1506
> >    1 WINNT        :    1    17      1       1506     1506
> >    1 OS2          C:    1    07      1       3012     1953
> >    1 009b2b39    :    0    00      0       4965     1176
> >    1 00bff04f     :    1    0a      2       6142        7
> >
> >The first is another HPFS, second is NT, note the FStype, 17, NTFS, then
> >the booted drive (NT is another C: hidden), an UNFORMATTED partition,
> >and lastly, Boot Manager.
>
> umm, I notice your OS/2old partition is also NTFS ? you have the opposite
> situation from me ?
>
> >
> >What I believe you have :
> >
> >    1 0000003f     :    1    0a      2          0        7
> >    1 --> LVM     C:    1    07      1          7     1004
> >    1 --> LVM      :    1    eb      1       1011      509
> >    1 --> LVM*    D:    2    07      1       1521      541
> >
> >First is boot manager, followed by a drive that appears to be an HPFS
> >(06 is FAT), then one I don't recognize, possibly a hidden C:, Linux?,
> >followed by another HPFS assigned as D:.
>
> It is actually Boot Manager, NTFS C:, BeOS C:, HPFS D: soon to be NeXT C: -
> don't see anything in here OS/2 can write to !
>
> so for some reason my fdisk mislabelled ntfs as hpfs ? If I wanna continue
> fixpacking I should *avoid* fdisk /newmbr at all costs ? Maybe this has
> something to do with NT's Disk Administrator "writing a signature to the
> hard disc" ?
>
> once upon a time, ages ago when I used floppies, I did a fixpack that
> took about twenty hours to read the disks. That seemed odd, as the
> time before it went quite fast and has never done that again. That
> was the impetus to get fastkick and learn a better way !
>
> anyway, it works :-)
>
> >
> >Irv
> >

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From: [e-mail]                           28-Oct-99 15:52:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 14:45:07
Subj: Re: CSF for fixpack 38

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

"Dilbert Firestorm" <[e-mail]> writes:

>does  it make any differernce what csf_### version to use under warp 3.0
>fixpack 38?

    Yes, try and use the latest.  Currently that is v1.41.


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From: [e-mail]                                  28-Oct-99 13:26:25
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug

From: Ariel <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

> Carsten Thorenz wrote:

> > O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading
> > is switched off?

> Since it is a bug in the Windows version as well, and this
> is obviously a very poorly-designed page, it's really not
> something I'm concerned about.  Certainly not worth the
> risks involved with changing the layout code.

Could/will you at least report it to Netscape? Although I'm not sure how
many new releases for navigator there will be before Mozilla.

If they do fix it, can/will you incorporate the change into the OS/2
version (even if you don't do a full "port" of the new version), just a
small maintenance release for this specific problem (if they fix it).

    -Ariel

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From: [e-mail]                                    28-Oct-99 16:28:18
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <3817c36d$2$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]> said:
        <<<snip>>>
> I have no SCSI equipment. It has been suggested
that I remove SNP files.  May I
> assume that also any ADD file that is listed in
snoop.lst as SCSI can be safely
> remmed out.

I tried getting rid of SNP files once & ended up with
something that didn't even come close to working.  So
now, I don't actually remove any files from the
diskettes.  I just REM out the drivers I'm not using.
I, like you, have no SCSI equipment so I have REMmed
those statements out of the CONFIG.SYS on the second
of the 4 diskettes.  I have not gone further.  I
figure the files fit, I'm not using them, the utility
put them there, it's an extra step to remove them,
they're just taking up space I wouldn't put to any
other use on the diskettes, so I don't bother.

Here's a messy but space-saving list of what I have
REMmed out of that CONFIG.SYS:

ibm2flpy.add ibm2adsk.add ibm2scsi.add aha152x.add
aha154x.add aha164x.add aha174x.add aic7770.add
aic7870.add btscsi.add fd16-700.add fd8xx.add
fd7000ex.add dpt20xx.add dac960.add flashpt.add
ipsraid.add ql10os2.add ql40os2.add ql510.add
chincds1.flt hitcds1.flt neccds1.flt sonycds1.flt
toshcds1.flt tmv1scsi.add sony535.add lms206.add
lms205.add mitfx001.add sbcd2.add sony31a.add

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: [e-mail]                                 28-Oct-99 16:57:15
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 16:44:09
Subj: Re: Backing out FP12

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Irv Spalten <[e-mail]> writes:
>Hmm, didn't notice my machine reported the first drive as NTFS, which is
>isn't?
>
>I now suspect a defect in FDISK, but probably in the filesystem
>somewhere? FDISKPM is also wrong, calls the x'17' as if it is x'07'? It
>IS possible that since 'something' thinks it is an HPFS partition, the
>API gets a '2' back, file NOT found, and we then continue?
>
>Will have to look at this.
>
>Irv
>

FDISKPM does show the NTFS primary C: partition as HPFS. This isn't
a one-time anomaly, either - did the same thing in two different OS/2
installs on two different partitions.

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From: [e-mail]                                28-Oct-99 17:07:13
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:17
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: "J. Weinkam" <[e-mail]>

On occations, when booting NT, I find that it doesn't recognize my HPFS
partitions.  When this happens I shut down NT, boot OS/2 and do CHKDSK
on all HPFS partitions.  I then shutdown and start NT and it will
recognize them.  You might want to force a CHKDSK of your partitions to
see if it helps.


Dave Parsons wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot
> between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to
> NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can
> nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
> I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions
> were there last time I booted to NT.
>
> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
> stops it working?
> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
> expect to since it is not really supported.
>
> TIA,
> --
> Dave

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From: [e-mail]                              29-Oct-99 02:58:13
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us
> configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
>
> But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's
> that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we have
> 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000
> pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
>
> It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> running programs.
>
    Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen
stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated?
    It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed
until it is actually needed.


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From: [e-mail]                                   29-Oct-99 01:33:02
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Kill Ia.n.i.!!! It's a Trojan Horse! [EOM]

From: Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>




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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               29-Oct-99 00:51:18
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

I don't have any problem reading an HPFS partition (FP12) from NT.  No change
from FP8 -> FP12.

L.

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:07:26 -0700, J. Weinkam wrote:

>On occations, when booting NT, I find that it doesn't recognize my HPFS
>partitions.  When this happens I shut down NT, boot OS/2 and do CHKDSK
>on all HPFS partitions.  I then shutdown and start NT and it will
>recognize them.  You might want to force a CHKDSK of your partitions to
>see if it helps.
>
>
>Dave Parsons wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot
>> between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to
>> NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can
>> nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
>> I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions
>> were there last time I booted to NT.
>>
>> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
>> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
>> stops it working?
>> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
>> expect to since it is not really supported.
>>
>> TIA,
>> --
>> Dave
>



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From: [e-mail]                                 29-Oct-99 11:21:09
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Warp on Toshiba Portege 3110-APM

From: [e-mail]

I'm having a problem installing Warp 4 on a Toshiba Portege.  I think that it
has to do with the APM.
1 - If I am connected to A/C, I have no problems.  If I'm running on battery
power, I can not load any dos or winos/2 apps.  The cpu meter pegs at 100%
and it just hangs.  OS/2 apps run fine.
2 - Intermittently, reboots or power-on results in the system hanging prior
to the boot manager loading.
I upgraded to APM ver 1.2 and the latest BIOS.  No help.  Any ideas?

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From: [e-mail]                         29-Oct-99 11:29:28
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail]

James-
   We didn't get very scientific about it (for example, we didn't take
the time to look at bufferpool stats in the monitors).  But we didn't
need to: performance fell through the floor when we increased the
bufferpools over the 'threshold'.  In every other case, available
memory dropped when we started and connected to the db and performance
was good and consistent.  If we exceeded the threshold, available
memory didn't drop and performance was horrible.

So it appears that we exceeded some 220 MB barrier that causes DB2 not
to get the memory (even with > 450 MB available), write error messages
to db2diag.log ('The memory for bufferpool and estore cannot be
allocated'), and revert back to extremely low default bufferpool
sizes.  It appears that this occurs when the combined total of all
bufferpools plus dbheap exceeds 220 MB (not just a single bp > 220 MB),
but again, we haven't taken the time to get too scientific about that.

The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now.  Folks have said
that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation
limit, so maybe it's something else.  I'll post what comes out of it.

I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use
bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp?

Derek Williams

In article <[e-mail]>,
  James Moe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Scott and Lorne.  We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped
us
> > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size.
> >
> > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory -
it's
> > that DB2 isn't using it.  Memstat is sitting there telling us we
have
> > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation,
> > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of
50,000
> > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it.  If we run this
> > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine.
> >
> > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to
> > running programs.
> >
>     Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen
> stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated?
>     It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not
committed
> until it is actually needed.
>
> --
>
> sma at rtd dot com
> Remove ".spam-not" for email
>


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From: [e-mail]                       29-Oct-99 23:02:05
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: Re: Warp on Toshiba Portege 3110-APM

From: Henk kelder <[e-mail]>

Not sure, but on my Toshiba 490XCDT I seem to have the same problem.

It has to do with the power conservation state of the BIOS.

If (using TSETUP) it is set to LOW power I have the same.

Normally I run at USER settings where CPU Sleep mode has been disabled
and CPU runs at full power. (Disabling CPU sleep mode is also advised
when running Win9x, because SCANDISK (after faulty shutdown) takes AGES
if CPU sleep mode is enabled.

I don't know which of these settings actually is the cause.

Try experimenting with FN-F2 (At least on the 490 this is for cycling
thru power conservations modes - Each press goes to the next mode - full
power, low power, user setting).

If you do not have TSETUP, try keeping a keyboard key pressed while
switching the machine on. During boot an error message will appear from
which you can enter the bios setup routines.

Henk



[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I'm having a problem installing Warp 4 on a Toshiba Portege.  I think that
it
> has to do with the APM.
> 1 - If I am connected to A/C, I have no problems.  If I'm running on battery
> power, I can not load any dos or winos/2 apps.  The cpu meter pegs at 100%
> and it just hangs.  OS/2 apps run fine.
> 2 - Intermittently, reboots or power-on results in the system hanging prior
> to the boot manager loading.
> I upgraded to APM ver 1.2 and the latest BIOS.  No help.  Any ideas?

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From: [e-mail]                          29-Oct-99 22:10:04
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article <7vc0fj$ht7$[e-mail]>:
> The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now.  Folks have said
> that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation
> limit, so maybe it's something else.  I'll post what comes out of it.

There is no "220 MB-per-allocation" limit.  There is a limit for how
much virtual memory an application [*] can see: 512M.  A lot of these
512M are reserved for shared areas, DLL areas etc.  What remains is
somewhat like 220M of virtual memory (this digit is a result of
experiments) available for application-requested memory.

*No workaround* is possible.

[*] Warp 4.5 is reported to be different.

Enjoy,
Ilya

P.S.  I repeat that this is *virtual memory*.  My first experiments
      were done on a laptop with 16M of memory and 32M of swap.  I
      could *assign* (without *touching*) myself 220M of virtual
      memory (due to overcommitment), but no more.

      So I repeat: it has nothing to do with how much "free" memory do
      you have.

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From: [e-mail]                                      30-Oct-99 00:53:05
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU

From: "Martin Bartelds" <[e-mail]>

On 28 Oct 1999 05:05:40 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:

:>
:>Well, I found something that certainly _looks_ the same - but different.
:>
:>Using NS4.61, 2048kb mem cache, 128kb disk cache, everything enabled,
:>this 128bit-encryption-required page produces 100% CPU usage as soon
:>as NS connects and then takes almost two minutes to be displayed.
:>
:>    https://www.firstunion.com/FrontLineLogin.html
:>
:>However, if I bring up the Preferences notebook, CPU usage drops to
:>"normal" and the page displays quickly.  In fact, if I already have
:>the File->Save as dialog displayed, the problem never occurs at all.
:>
:>What can I say but ??!???*??

As a matter of fact: It's enough to switch to another application
to get normal CPU behaviour back......

:>Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement

/Martin



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