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From: [e-mail]                          01-Oct-99 23:01:24
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] "Mark L. Kahnt" writes:

> Eeek!!! Reminds me of the days of using a teletype terminal on
> a 110 baud modem back in university!
>
> Can you imagine even browsing the web that way?

Strangely, yes.  This will sound like one of those urban myths...

A friend once knew somebody who wrote a version of the old game
Space Invaders which output to an ASR33 teletype.

It still boggles the mind.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Oct-99 00:28:12
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:09:15, [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)
wrote:

> FWIW, I've moved entire OS/2 systems from one hard disk to a new one
> by using BA/2 command line-disk driven restore

I have done that a couple of times. Absolutely NO PROBLEMS...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                          02-Oct-99 00:14:24
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:41:19, "Peter Wadsack" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit dans
un message:

>
> But I don't understand that 'extra COM port' part: where do you find one of
> those? <g>

Sorry. Extra "serial" port. On an extra port board.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                 01-Oct-99 16:41:25
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: [e-mail]

In <37f43907$1$ewyncunz$[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
   at 12:23 AM, [e-mail] (Jerry Lapham) said:

>SET TEMP shows drive H:, which has about 800MB free.  SET TMP points to
>drive E: (about 370MB free).

Just a WAG.  Make sure there are no spaces folling the = character or
trailing spaces on the SET line in CONFIG.SYS.  I've seen this cause
trouble.

Worst case you can use the System Trace Facility to find out exactly which
file is causing the problem.

Steven


--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Levine <[e-mail]>  MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11
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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 00:51:02
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

John Hong ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Everything seems to work fine except on the Windows 95 side.  Apparently,
: each time I start it, it gives me this error message "...screen...".  I
: didn't write it down in detail, but suffice to say it was the number of
: colors displayed.  Apparently Describe Win32 does not like having 65k
: colors (High color - 16bit), nor does it like True Color - 32bit so that
: leaves me with a crummy 256 colors.  Don't know if the resolution matters

    Don't you hate it when this happens?  I found out myself that the
problem ended up being the trial I was running with SciTech Display
Doctor for Win95.  After I switched back to the stock video driver from
S3, sure enough Describe Win32 works fine.


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Oct-99 00:28:13
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:57:48, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Also check that "temp" and "tmp" are pointing to a subdirectory, not
> the root of a drive. i.e. temp=x:\temp\ , NOT temp=x:\ .
>
>

Try "temp=x:\temp", I think you will have a problem with the trailing
slash.

Be sure to look for duplicate entries for these. I think it was Lotus
SmartSuite, that installed a second set of each, and the TCPIP
install, and VAC++, will create one for TMP. Other programs may do
likewise. Only the last entry will be used.

hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: [e-mail]                                01-Oct-99 20:11:12
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

John Hong wrote:
>
>         Okay, just got Describe in the mail today (thanks Paul).  Damn
> that's a good manual...  Anyways, I have it installed in all forms.  OS/2
> version, Win3.1 version (Win-OS/2), and also on my Windows 95 partition.
> Everything seems to work fine except on the Windows 95 side.  Apparently,
> each time I start it, it gives me this error message "...screen...".  I
> didn't write it down in detail, but suffice to say it was the number of
> colors displayed.  Apparently Describe Win32 does not like having 65k
> colors (High color - 16bit), nor does it like True Color - 32bit so that
> leaves me with a crummy 256 colors.  Don't know if the resolution matters
> any (set at 800x600 currently).  Does this "Frequent Flier CDROM" update
> the Windows 95 version since I have read it updates the OS/2 version.
> Interesting problem since the Windows 3.1 version did not give any such
> error message.
>         I'm standardizing myself on Describe at any event.  Now, this
> means I can type away doing whatever I normally do under OS/2 and can
> then print the document up under Win-OS/2 (or Windows 95) with the best
> possible printing quality that my inkjet printer can deliever.  Man this
> will just kick ass when I have photo's embedded in my Describe
> documents.  No more re-formatting!
>
> (To Buddy; it arrived, thanks)

The only problem is that if someone sends you a WORD document, you can't
use DeScribe to look at it, and the WORD user can't look at you DeScribe
documents.  Even Star Office can't import you DeScribe documents.  I had
a lot of DeScribe documents and that was the reason I didn't want to go
to Star Office, but when I got the new machine and no longer had the
install media for DeScribe I finally broke down and downloaded SO.  Then
I had to start re-doint manually all those documents.  I hope I got all
of them, because the HD on my 486 just went south.  When you power up,
you cannot hear the disk start to spin like it used to.  Can't boot.
--
Dale Erwin
3624 Coral Gables Drive
Dallas, Texas 75229-2619
[phone]

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From: [e-mail]                          02-Oct-99 12:52:00
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: [e-mail] (ROBIN HINDE)

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]> wrote:


JSK>ROBIN HINDE wrote:

JSK>> I haven't heard anything bad about Comm4.61, but I cannot use it on my
JSK>> system here.
JSK>>
JSK>> Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it
JSK>> will not display the search text entry box on any search site (I see
JSK>> only a horizontal line where the box should be).
JSK>>
JSK>> It displays some tables* incorrectly, making them far too wide.
JSK>> These tables display correctly in every other browser I have used.

JSK>Go to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and switch the
JSK>Fixed Width font to something other than Courier New.
JSK>The problem is that the Courier New font isn't on your
JSK>system.

JSK>Jeffrey S. Kobal
JSK>IBM Corporation
JSK>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

Thanks for that, and everyone else who replied - that fixes the first
problem, but doesn't touch the other two. Both problems are really very
minor, but:

The table shown at

http://z.extreme-dm.com/tracking/nph-summarys.cgi?tag=nzpca

is far too wide to be easily viewed, and I have been unable correct this
while using 4.61. It displays correctly in 2.02, and also under Windows
4.61

The curious_eye tutorial

http://www.deakin.edu.au/~agoodman/sci313/dhtml/curious_eye/index.htm

doesn't display: it gets stuck at the "loading page" message, the
Windows 4.61 displays this page correctly. Other dhtml pages display in
4.61/2 OK eg http://www.htmlguru.com

Neither of these is a big problem - 4.61 was well worth waiting for,
thanks to all involved!
---
 * OLX 2.1 TD * ([e-mail]      3:771/1680)

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From: [e-mail]....               02-Oct-99 02:03:10
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:13
Subj: Re: AIM Java - Where can I download it from

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

I have a ZIP file called AIMJava2.zip on my system here. I've been
running the Java version of AIM here for about 3 months.

If you like I can email the file to you. It's about 975K. Email me at
[e-mail] if you're interested.


On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:19:55, [e-mail] (lazydog) wrote:

>
> I tried a few searches on bmtc, hobbes, web crawler but having no luck.
> Went to the aol page but no download was available.
>
> Thanks
>
> ........Seth
>
>

"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                   01-Oct-99 21:26:17
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: Lost mail and newsgroups

From: Terry Kayser <[e-mail]>

Hi,

Netscape seems to have fixed itself.  It's now saving my mail in the in box
folder.  Last night I changed my newsgroup server from news3.ibm.net to
news1.ibm.net and now it's saving the messages I download.  So everything
seems to be fixed.

Terry

Terry Kayser wrote:

> HELP!
>
> I've loaded Netscape 4.61 and now when I down load my messages and news
> groups I lose them after I close Netscape and then re-open it.
>
> For example:
> I'm online and I click on the in box icon.  Netscape down loads any
> messages I have waiting.  I usually don't have that many, so I read
> them.  When I'm done surfing the internet, I shut down Netscape.  Now
> all my messages should be saved so when I reopen Netscape I have them to
> read again, but all of them are gone.
>
> With the news groups its different.  I select what news groups I want
> like os2.apps and down load 100 messages.  I usually like to read them
> the next day, but when I do their gone also.  But if i click on
> subscribe and select the os2.apps news group again the messages are
> their again unlike mail which seem to have disappeared completely.
>
> For some reason Netscape doesn't want to remember what news groups I
> subscribe to or what mail I have in the in box.  Has anybody else had
> this problem?  If so can you tell me how to fix it.
>
> Yes, I've reloaded Netscape 4.61.
>
> One last thing, Netscape 4.61 does remember what is in the Trash and
> unsent message bins.
>
> Terry

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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 02:28:10
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Dale Erwin ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The only problem is that if someone sends you a WORD document, you can't
: use DeScribe to look at it, and the WORD user can't look at you DeScribe
: documents.

    No biggy, at least for me.  I don't send out or recieve documents
save normal text.

: Even Star Office can't import you DeScribe documents.  I had

    Lotus Word Pro 96 for OS/2 I know can read them, and I'll assume
the 97 version can, too.  However, I believe the Describe filter for Word
Pro is strictly a OS/2 specific feature.  The Windows 95 version of Word
Pro 96 I know does not have a Describe filter.  But I guess the advantage
there is that you can then export it as a Word document.

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From: [e-mail]                           02-Oct-99 03:29:05
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: I seem to recall....

From: "Brian Morrison" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:51:12 GMT, John Thompson wrote:

>Isn't that the reason for that "US Government Users rights
>restricted as per yadda, yadda, yadda" message we see when OS/2
>boots?

*You* may see that message when OS/2 boots. I, however, do not ;-)


--
Brian Morrison                                       [e-mail]
               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 02:32:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: FP42...nope

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

    One item that has been broken since FP40 (at least for me) has
been the DOS_VIDEO_MODE feature where you can limit the DOS session to
just CGA or MONO graphics.  Selection of either since FP40 will simply
result in the application exiting via an error.  Prior to FP40 I had
always been running WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS in this manner with the
DOS_VIDEO_MODE set back to CGA (thereby gaining more conventional RAM).
Unfortunately, FP42 still has not fixed that.  Ah well, looks like its
back to FP39 for me...though I may nab the PMMERGE and PMD(something or
other) since both were the causes of memory leaks listed in the FP42 Apars.


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From: [e-mail]                          02-Oct-99 02:21:27
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:52:00, [e-mail] (ROBIN HINDE) a ┌crit
dans un message:

snip
>
> The curious_eye tutorial
>
> http://www.deakin.edu.au/~agoodman/sci313/dhtml/curious_eye/index.htm
>
> doesn't display: it gets stuck at the "loading page" message, the
> Windows 4.61 displays this page correctly.

The problem at that site (a tutorial, in fact on site design) is stupid
javascript.

The index page's browser sniffer code in

 http://www.deakin.edu.au/~agoodman/sci313/dhtml/curious_eye/script.js

parses for all this:

----------clipt
// BROWSER SNIFFER (Sniff out the good and bad browsers)

function Is() {
    var agent = navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
    this.major = parseInt(navigator.appVersion);
    this.minor = parseFloat(navigator.appVersion);
    this.ns  = ((agent.indexOf('mozilla')!=-1) &&
((agent.indexOf('spoofer')==-1) && (agent.indexOf('compatible') == -1)));
    this.ns2 = (this.ns && (this.major == 2));
    this.ns3 = (this.ns && (this.major == 3));
    this.ns4b = (this.ns && (this.minor < 4.04));
    this.ns4 = (this.ns && (this.major >= 4));
    this.ie   = (agent.indexOf("msie") != -1);
    this.ie3  = (this.ie && (this.major == 2));
    this.ie4  = (this.ie && (this.major >= 4));
    this.op3 = (agent.indexOf("opera") != -1);
    this.win   = (agent.indexOf("win")!=-1);
    this.mac   = (agent.indexOf("mac")!=-1);
    this.unix  = (agent.indexOf("x11")!=-1);
}
------------clipt

and since your userAgent isn't an indexOF win, mac, or x11, it decides in
advance it doesn't need to show you anything because you're using a "bad
browser."

1. You can get around this by using SmartCache to spoof the UserAgent to
one they expect to see. (fake_user_agent Netscape 4.61 [en] (Win95; U))

2. You can write about this error to the author of the website, whose
technical ignorance doesn't seem worth dealing with, much less learning
from.

3. Or you can just avoid sites that are badly written, or presume too much,
which is what I like to do.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                 02-Oct-99 01:33:11
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: [e-mail]

In <37f4fb8c$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (Dominique Pivard) said:
>>> A week or so I got Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice Catalog and installed
it last
>>> night.  Do I still have to get the update?  If so, where?
>
>>Check your version with 'java -fullversion'. If it's build
>>o118-19990910, you have the latest fix. If not, you can get it from:
>
>>ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/
>
>Thanks.  What is on Software Choice is old.

hell of an incentive to subscribe, ain't it ?


>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>


--
Härad Ængravvård

remove trees, see forest

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From: [e-mail]....               02-Oct-99 03:19:05
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: PMMail

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

Basically, he's a crank. I don't know what he's smoking, but my
PMMail/2 2.00.15 is working just fine with none of the "problems" he's
describing.

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:23:30, [e-mail] (Sander
Nyman) wrote:

> Well, that's not exactly what your spreading here Alan.  If your
> complaints to Southsoft were characterized anything like your posts to
> this newsgroup, then it is not at all surprising that they went
> unanswered.  The fact that complaints about PM Mail, and Southsoft are
> nearly non existent, and in fact the program seems to receive high praise,
> even from those who have chosen other e-mail clients, tends to make your
> agenda with this thread more then a little suspect.
>

"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                02-Oct-99 00:21:24
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] said:
>>Thanks.  What is on Software Choice is old.

>hell of an incentive to subscribe, ain't it ?

Yup!

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                01-Oct-99 23:28:03
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: FP locations

From: "Michael Duebner" <[e-mail]>

Hello:

I can't seem to get RSU going on my V4 Warp system to install FP 12.  Is
there another location do download the entire FP?

Thanks!

-Michael


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From: [e-mail]               01-Oct-99 23:09:21
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 02:50:14
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 2 Oct 1999 02:28:20 GMT, John Hong wrote:

>: Even Star Office can't import you DeScribe documents.  I had
>
>    Lotus Word Pro 96 for OS/2 I know can read them, and I'll assume
>the 97 version can, too.  However, I believe the Describe filter for Word
>Pro is strictly a OS/2 specific feature.  The Windows 95 version of Word
>Pro 96 I know does not have a Describe filter.  But I guess the advantage
>there is that you can then export it as a Word document.

Sorry to throw cold water your way - these conversion features do not work
very well except for VERY simple documents.

DeScibe is like drug - once you get into it, it's hard to pull away.    Very
sad but I wouldn't use it (as much as I love to).    Start with SO, it's
supported.


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From: [e-mail]                             02-Oct-99 08:22:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 05:14:14
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: Knud <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:
>
> Knud wrote:
>
> > When I pick a message in a news group the message contents is empty,
> > when I try to make a reply the contents are there !
> >
> > Any suggenstions ?
>
> Edit-Preferences, select Fonts, switch Fixed Width font
> from Courier New to Courier (or something else).
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

Thanks for advice

it did'nt went exactly like you described:

Fixed with font was courier, so I tried to change variabel font ( was
TMS rmn ) to helv, it worked and back again.....it worked.

Another question:

When I start NS 4.61 ( so did 4.01 also ) it change my background
colours without restoring them when leaving the prg.

When I start and stop some specific other programs fx. a PM fractal
which is using a lot of colours and afterwards click a few times and the
desktop then "my" colours comes back.


I thougt I understood this behavior was something with apps using 256
colours on a setup with 16 colours, but my system is 256 colours !


System:
WARP 3 fixpak 40
S3 virge DX 4 MB, 1280*1024*256, GRADD 0.88 driver.
AMD K6-2 350 MHz.

Knud

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From: [e-mail]                        02-Oct-99 09:06:07
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 10:13:22
Subj: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: [e-mail] (Jan Eri)

Wonder if this is a known problem:

OS/2 Warp 4 freezes sometimes when printing from Lotus WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ.
This happens with several different FixPack's including the new FP12, and I
believe it has also happened with two different versions of the laserjet
driver. When it freezes I can still move the mouse, but otherwise only
Ctrl-Alt-Del works (Process Commander is no help).

This happens quite often when printing to our networked Laserjet 4050, but
also when printing to the PMFax (FaxWorks) printer driver.

Anyone else seen this or know a solution?

regards, Jan

----------------------------------
Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
Work: http://www.protector-group.no
Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/

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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 09:52:13
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 10:13:22
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Kim Cheung ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >    Lotus Word Pro 96 for OS/2 I know can read them, and I'll assume
: >the 97 version can, too.  However, I believe the Describe filter for Word
: >Pro is strictly a OS/2 specific feature.  The Windows 95 version of Word
: >Pro 96 I know does not have a Describe filter.  But I guess the advantage
: >there is that you can then export it as a Word document.

: Sorry to throw cold water your way - these conversion features do not work
: very well except for VERY simple documents.

    Can you blame them?  Especially considering that Describe I don't
believe *ever* published their file formatting much like IBM Works...

: DeScibe is like drug - once you get into it, it's hard to pull away.    Very
: sad but I wouldn't use it (as much as I love to).    Start with SO, it's
: supported.

    StarOffice?  You must be joking...on a AMD 5x86-133mhz with 16 MB
of RAM, StarOffice is a pretty lousy pick.  Lotus Word Pro 96, while a
little better is still slow on my machine.  Besides, I wanted to get
lighter...not heavier in features.  What I wanted was something that I
could use on both ends, OS/2 and Windows 95.  Only one fits that, that
would suit is Describe.  Only other options would've been StarOffice as
you had already suggested, Lotus Word Pro 96, and WordPerfect 5.2.  First
two are simply too resource hungry for my liking, especially considering
I'll be looking to create 20-30 page term papers with embedded graphics
for this semester.  With StarOffice or Word Pro 96, that ain't gonna be
pretty on my slim machine.  With WordPerfect 5.2, I've heard conflicting
reports about its quality...one too many horror stories regarding it for
me to look at it seriously.  As well I have WordPerfect 8 for Win95, but I'd
rather keep that off this machine since it is also a little slow.
    So, the only answer was Describe in my situation.  The idea was
so that no matter on what platform I was on (either OS/2 or Windows 95)
that I could work on the same document without any messing around with
the formatting.  I think Describe should fit the bill quite nicely.  I
find myself playing games and surfing the web on Windows 95 a lot now,
whereas with OS/2 I mainly do the word processing and downloading with
wget and reading the Usenet and email.

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From: [e-mail]                 02-Oct-99 12:23:22
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 12:27:03
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: [e-mail] (mark davidson)

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:35:58, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> >I'm running Warp4 FP11 and can't seem to install Lotus SmartSuite 1.0.
> >The error message indicates that I'm not at the appropriate FP level
> >but at FP 11, that shouldn't be a problem, should it?

> You must run the install from a CMD.EXE session, NOT 4OS2, or some
> other replacement shell. LSS/2 install depends or the info returned by
> "ver /r" command. Most replacement shells don't return the proper
> response. Most shells, all that's required is to type "CMD [Enter]"
> then run install.

thanks for the responses.  indeed, i do run 4os2 but having installed
smartsuite once before, i had already reverted to a 'cmd.exe' setup
for the installation.  ver /r results in The Operating System/2
Version is 4.00 Revision 9.035.

this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first
fixpack applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were
not part of fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the
first device driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my
system?

again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..

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From: [e-mail]                            02-Oct-99 13:46:05
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In <c1.01.2SNRN7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>>On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:54:19, "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]> a

>>> > Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
>>> > 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
>>
>>Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward
>>dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.
>
>that's a helluva good idea. thank you

Also used here for autodialing probes for pager terminals. Perfectly
good use for them as most of the pager I/O terminals can't take anything
over 2400 baud anyway.  Some .. so said, but I've never been forced that
low, can still only take 300 baud and some of the old ones are still at
1200, but not the bigger ones!  A spare out dialer line modem which
carries a canned 'message' to an alphanumeric pager terminal port is one
way of getting server operations messages back to your digital pager
from your apps using just a simple DOS-VDM snippit in OS/2 ... we do
this all the time.

As well, there are tons of ham radio packet operations which still
proceed at less than 9600 baud, although the packet TNC terminals will
muchly work at computer port speeds higher than that for the computer
side of things...

--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                            02-Oct-99 13:51:00
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Peter Wadsack"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:17:27 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>
>But I don't understand that 'extra COM port' part: where do you find one of
>those? <g>
>
>Peter

Bigger grin ...

   Where do you find the IRQ?

      Oblique chuckle .. throw away the mouse!

--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                  02-Oct-99 14:59:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: Re: WinOs/2 Printing now has Blobs

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Chr*st! here we go again - tis like pulling teeth...... <g>

Eric A. Erickson wrote:

> All of a sudden all my printing for some WinOs/2 Apps now have black blobs

BLOBS = Binary Large OBjects? , black amorphous wingdings or maybe you
just sneezed in the toner/inkjet cartridge?

> and lines on it.

parallel, convergent, horizontal, vertical, overstruck, circular,
dotted, linear straight, curved, exponential, hyperbolic, involute,
eplipsoid, asymetric, rail, way, air or shipping.......etc?
- delete all those inapplicable please....

"Blobs/Lines" mixed(sporadically or consistent with a column or
typeface/character) in with readable text or only "Blobs/Lines"?

> I have not made any configuration changes that I'm aware of it, but really
need to get this
> fixed.

(Can't really see why you want this fixed as the symptoms appear
eminently more informative and useful themselves, per se,  than the
miserly offering that you've posted here?<g>)

....but with minimum/zero amount of personal effort to supply any other
relevant information apparently.....       :-(
........unless...
... reluctantly forced to by pain or threat of continued verbal
harrassment..... or even some passing embarrassment perhaps?<g>

> Any clues.

Yes -  but the number of clues is inversely proportional to the amount
of information you've tendered.... and thus would exceed both the
maximum size on the newserver gateways and probably the server free DASD
space available as well....<g>

> BTW, this is using a deskjet 520 and the omni driver.

Oh nice one  - most important info added almost as an afterthought
....apparently<g>.... but these guessing games do add enormously to the
interest value/challenge, do they (NOT!)?<g>

Seriously though, don't you think it might be a tad more helpful if you
also included the print driver version number, what apps specifically
don't work and presumably what do(as implied).
Even an answer to the more obvious "What OS major release/version and
CSD?" might give us a clue.....
(Sorry! - are we supposed to deduce that from any of your previous
posts?<g>).....
Omni driver as shipped? or some offering from IBM,HP website?
Whether the "apps" are launched directly from same WinOS2 session or
individually from OS/2 desktop....?   .....
What fonts (if any) differences are used tween non/working apps, ATM,TT
enabled etc... ?
Whether Print Manager is enabled and/or routed via LPTx.OS2 and whether
using via IBMNULL printer on OS/2 side  produces same result and/or
switching  to "print specific" in driver setup?
Being a Certified Warp Engineer you would have already explored these
"obvious" basics  (and more) no doubt...... <vbg>....   but in the
absence of any explicit information or hint(other than a CWE merit
badge<g>)  offered to confirm this (probably) dangerous premise, one is
reluctantly compelled to ask .......just in case.....  <g>.

Now let me guess? You had a late (development<vbg>) night? - hard
pressed on the project schedule deadline? - your post was a quick and
dirty throw away while you wrestled with more intellectually stimulating
and technically challenging problems and the last thing you need is a
"smart alec/mouth"? ......  and you don't patiently suffer idiots gladly
anyway?<g>
(I've just gotta be right on at least one of those and be warned as I do
empathise and personally follow the last one in both meanings /
interpretations in context<vbg>).

> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet:
[e-mail]

"Elvish" ? !!? ...   Is it Easter already? - I thought he was "dead"?

> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)

Hmmm....   Interesting....   yet another COS2WE but with apparently no
recourse to PSS/PS-Assist (but I couldn't possibly utilise my per call
budget on such a trivial question!) or access to RETAIN PMR database
(is that Hone running on an East Fishgill  A1 machine?) .....
is there  a pattern emerging here or am I missing something obvious?

> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer

I can't wait to see what "visually develops" from this little soire
then... <g>.....

> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: [phone] <-Newe'

Already been there, didn't like it, came back , got the teeshirt, sent
meself a postcard and forgot to frank it!  :-(
--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]  -  "Certifiable ex-IBM prat
Rtd".........

"I must not be rude, ....
I must not be rude,and facetious,......
I must not be rude,facetious and pendantic,......
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic and verbose,...
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic,verbose and peurile,.....
I must not be rude,facetious,pendantic,verbose, peurile and
blasphemous,.....
I must not.......
I must try a bl**dy sight harder.....  particularly with that damn
illusive and difficult to learn *clairvoyance* skill ?
....apparently...."       :-(

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From: [e-mail]                            02-Oct-99 14:02:11
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 14:10:00
Subj: FP12 * Are MONO and CGA video still working?

From: [e-mail]

somebody who has FP12 installed please check to see if the MONO and
CGA video restriction modes are still working in FP12 in DOS VDM
sessions?

Another poster has noted that these are broken at FP39 for Warp 3.  They
are still broken as of the new companion FP for it.

It may make a difference, somehow ..  we're all with Matrox Mill and
AGP200 video cards..

I'm nervously looking at whether to try this one after the still safe
FP8 that we had to stop at.  To lose these would be a disaster for us as
they furnish a huge chuck of extra memory needed for some DOS-VDM
prgrams we still have to use that have no other equivalents.


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike Luther - W5WQN
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                            02-Oct-99 14:22:21
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 16:33:10
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <37f34fbf$3$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
<[e-mail]> writes:
>On <37f27ddf$1$jzzbeebj$[e-mail]>, on 09/29/99 at 08:58 PM,
>   [e-mail] said:


>Each Warp machine on the network likewise has a miniwarp and a set of
>utility disks. So, I only have to do a CLREST for a very small partition
>(<80 megs) and by having a separate tape, BA/2 doesn't have to spend a lot
>of time reading several gigs to find the few megs desired. And since the
>mini warp partition has the catalogs, etc. for the rest of the machine or
>network I can pick and choose what to restore once the mini-warp partition
>is up and connected to the network.

>Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]

For your further notes if it may help ..

We just expanded the complete CLREST tape test to a larger SCSI disk
box with BA/2..

     1.) Chose a new WD 9.16 LVD disk.

     2.) Chose a new Adaptec 2940UW Pro.

     3.) Kept the same FP8 set of modified utility disks that generated
         the other fully function backup and restore from a plain
         quiet system network server box.  Of course we shut down
         not needed apps, but we did not boot from maintenance
         just to run the backup ...

     4.) We used the FP8 level FDISK and FORMAT to create a boot partion
         of 2047MB and others of 2047MB because we still have to provide
         for DOS apllications which cannot handle the larger sizes.

     5.) We chunked in the same CLREST disk used on the initial 4GB
         exact clone into the drive and pressed the button.

     6.) Back came the full server, expanded, in that the full file
         set was restored to a larger disk, to the new 9GB drive.


We discovered that there is a glitch in the WD 9GB drive and the Adaptec
2940UW Pro setup!  You cannot use the internal SCSI termination on the
WD drive and card we had without tripping the Adaptec controller sniffer
warning about unacceptable termination!  I never saw it show as I low
level prepped and verified the new drive with the <CTRL A> Adaptec
tools, but it was there when we tried to just run the new system for
FDISK and FORMAT!   For grins, we went ahead and ran FDISK and FORMAT
with the error present, and .... went ahead and restored the whole drive
from the tape with the error noted!

No problems, it would seem .. ?

An internal SCSI 68 Pin passive or active plug in cable terminator will
get rid of the error message, and granted, the hard drive was the only
device on that cable during all this..  The restore tape was on the end
of the 50 pin cable, properly terminated of course ..

I conclude that the termination was really there, otherwise the whole
operation would likely have failed.  Therefore what is probably wrong is
that the impedance sniffing routine in the Adaptec utilities is simply
not able to quite focused on the values that the WD drive presents to it!

The entire server clone seems to work just fine with the following
notes.  You will have to run CHKDSK on it a couple times from the
utility disks to get rid of that initial 'error' your see with new
drives that 'we are fixing a minor disk error' and there is 'lost data'
reported, which goes away.  However, try as we might, we can't find it.
We suspect it may be the RAS network log data which we already realize
won't be correct, things like that.  I'll be glad be corrected if those
things make any difference anyway during a rebuild; they seem totally
fluid and dynamic issues on a running system anyway to my thinking..

In the end of the CHKDSK, there are no files 'found' or left as .CHK
items for us to see...

Comments welcome...


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 17:49:01
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 16:33:10
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Rod Smith ([e-mail]) wrote:

: DeScribe will change the formatting of documents when you switch from one
: platform to another, though, because of differences in printer drivers and
: font handling.  This isn't likely to be a big deal for term papers and
: whatnot (you'll just get a different number of pages, page breaks in
: different locations, and so on), but it might be if precise layout is
: critical.

    Thanks for the tip.  It shouldn't be too big of a deal since it
is the same printer being used on both platforms...  Plus I tend to stick
with the basic fonts for work (ie. Courier or Times New Roman).  Courier
if I can't write enough and Times New Roman in case I write too much. ;-)


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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 17:45:25
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 16:33:10
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Esther Schindler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Thanks for the kind words about the manual. (I wrote about a third of
: it.) <grin>

    You're welcome!

: I also agree with the other comment about it being nearly impossible
: to pry oneself away from Describe... I have, and have used, just about
: every word processor out there, and I *still* come back to Describe.
: It's fast, which is important to me when the muse starts dictating
: words in my head.

    Exactly!  Once word processors got to the level of Word 6 and
WordPerfect 6 in features (or even WordPerfect 5.1 for that matter), its
been downhill since, IMO.  Describe 5 is on that level which is just
perfect for me.

: I never used DeScribe on a Windows system, so I can't help with the
: resolution issues. One gotcha to watch out for, though: Describe's RTF
: import works fine with files that are saved as RTF from Word95, but in
: my experience it barfs on RTF files generated from Word97. I don't
: know why it's that way, but if you encounter the problem at least
: you'll recognize it.

    To anyone that didn't know RTF is a Microsoft format and they
have changed it a few times so that is probably the reason.

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From: [e-mail]                                   02-Oct-99 13:22:28
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:17
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

Probably a version of Joliet that OS/2 doesn't understand. Are the file
names truncated?

"A. Willard Reese" wrote:
>
> My problem is this:
>         I have just got my ISP, who is local, to burn my website on a
> cdrom.  It was done
> on a Win98 machine and works fine on my machine when running WIN95 and
> Win98
> ver of Netscape. However,
>     When I try to run it in OS2 by bringing up the cdrom directory and
> clicking on
> index.html, Netscape 4.61 opens OK and the home page is shown. When I
> click on jpeg
> links on the home page they also open OK.  When I try to open an .HTML
> link, I get an
> error message "Can't find J:\xxxxx.html".  This is true of all html's,
> J is my cdrom drive
> in OS2.
>     Why can't Netscape in OS2 find the files when Windows95 can. E is
> my cdrom
> drive in Win95. J is my cdrom drive in OS2.
>     I've tried a dozen different things but nothing seems to work.
> Got any ideas?
> Regards,
> Willard

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From: [e-mail]                              02-Oct-99 18:33:17
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)

My problem is this:
        I have just got my ISP, who is local, to burn my website on a
cdrom.  It was done
on a Win98 machine and works fine on my machine when running WIN95 and
Win98
ver of Netscape. However,
    When I try to run it in OS2 by bringing up the cdrom directory and
clicking on
index.html, Netscape 4.61 opens OK and the home page is shown. When I
click on jpeg
links on the home page they also open OK.  When I try to open an .HTML
link, I get an
error message "Can't find J:\xxxxx.html".  This is true of all html's,
J is my cdrom drive
in OS2.
    Why can't Netscape in OS2 find the files when Windows95 can. E is
my cdrom
drive in Win95. J is my cdrom drive in OS2.
    I've tried a dozen different things but nothing seems to work.
Got any ideas?
Regards,
Willard




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From: [e-mail]                               02-Oct-99 15:46:27
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: [e-mail] (Frank)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:58:34, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

>     Easy.  Because OS/2 is not Windows or Linux.

No, and the way it's going it never will be.
Don't you understand that this puts new users off, and the less users
there are, the less progs will be availabale to all of us.

Stop acting like a saint, we're almost in the year 2000, the Internet
is allover, one can get anything./anywhere
as long it's windos 9xxxxx or Linux related.(lucky: there's a good
linux port to OS/2 !!!!!!)

Keep telling yourself you want to pay while the windos and Linux
community is expanding and expanding ( to the cost of the os2 users.)
Let's get one thing straight : OS/2 is very ill and will die if the
medicine will not get cheaper.
I'm hooked to OS/2 after 13 years m$soft usage, but if the well goes
dry, I go look for water, 'cause I still have to survive.

Greeeetings,



frank


The box said:"Requires Windows 95/98, NT or better" .......... So I
too installed OS/2.


Reply per Email to [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]               02-Oct-99 13:05:01
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Problem with WSEB and Partition Magic 3.0 -> Resized Partion wont b

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 2 Oct 1999 16:12:55 GMT, Carsten Frank wrote:

>Configuration:
>
>
>Warp Server for Ebusiness
>ONLY hpfs386 no jvs
>
>2 SCSI drives

Be careful using PM on HPFS386.    Make sure you "back out" of HPFS386 and
into normal "HPFS" before using PM.   As far as I can tell, it seems to be
okay if I backup all of the ACLs and then load HPFS instead of HPFS386 - then
attempt the PM - then reapply the ACLs.   I don't know if there is other
hidden potholes.

Don't try to ask the manufacturer of PM: the only thing it did for me was
aggrevation.


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From: [e-mail]                          02-Oct-99 22:55:08
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Web Browser History Feature - when "Back" doesn't cut it

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Craig Silver
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article <[e-mail]>:
> I've been out of the OS/2 stream for a few years now - I blame it on
> work, but that's another thread.
>
> My question is about the great browser history feature that I once
> used in an old OS/2 web browser, the name of which I forget.  It was
> the popular browser back in the Warp days, and you could get a
> detailed "map" of everywhere you'd navigated during a particular
> session.  Does anyone know of an IE or Netscape (Windows version)
> addon that provides this functionality?  I can't believe the Windows
> world doesn't have this.  Or should I be surprised?

Will not directly help you, but I have a working Lynx patch on my
disk.  I want to make a particular "view" of the history runtime
configurable, so it will not make it to the released Lynxen for some
time, though...

Ilya

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From: [e-mail]                           02-Oct-99 22:27:28
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 21:37:18
Subj: Re: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:48:56, "Jan Hartman" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I need to move some files with long filenames from my
> hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.
>
> How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?
>
> Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file
> with
> the win-version?
>

Yes, that should work.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           02-Oct-99 17:17:03
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Jim Stuyck wrote:
>
> "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
>
> > Frank McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
> > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
> >
> > [***SNIP!!!***]
> >
> > >
> > > Well, now that you mention it...
> > >
> > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
>
> Sounds like someone forgot to punch a hole in his carriage control
> tape, or screwed up gluing it together and it came apart!  ;-)
> (I go waaaay back, too.  Been there, done that.)
>
> > I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
> > in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
> > MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
> > 1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
> > at pumping out pages of stuff.
>
> No 1403-N1 could (or can) hold a candle to, say, an IBM 3800 which is
> a laser machine that uses cut paper, unlike the fanfold of the 1403.  And
> the 3800 has been around for a looooong time.
>
> Where have you been?  ;-)
>
> Jim Stuyck

Sorry - meant the everyday SOHO laser printers. Mind you, I think the
3800 was after my experiences with the 1403. I do remember a non-IBM
printer called a Photon, which used lenses, daisy wheels and toner to
produce scalable fonts and xerographic printing, and the first
legitimate laser printers I dealt with were the Imagen and the early
Xerox products - both of which tended to run at 4 or so ppm if lucky.

But I've seen what you refer to: laser printers that run at a speed that
to the eye approaches that of a printing press. I have also seen the
invoice for that type of printer - outta my budget! ;)
--

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From: [e-mail]                      02-Oct-99 16:12:27
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Problem with WSEB and Partition Magic 3.0 -> Resized Partion wont be re

From: [e-mail] (Carsten Frank)

Configuration:


Warp Server for Ebusiness
ONLY hpfs386 no jvs

2 SCSI drives

My Problem:

First I had the 2 disk formated with hpfs.
No I have changed the size of the second harddisk with partion magic
to 2 Gig for adding a new partion. Now the resized partion with hpfs
is not recognized anymore. If I start the lvmgui the resized partion
is recognized. He says:

Volume Name    Partion   Status    File System   Size   Type

                                 os2       startable       HPFS
1702    Primary


The volume Name is blank. Is this the reason?

The c partion has a volume name.

what can I do

Thanks

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From: [e-mail]                               02-Oct-99 16:19:25
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

Thanks for the kind words about the manual. (I wrote about a third of
it.) <grin>

I also agree with the other comment about it being nearly impossible
to pry oneself away from Describe... I have, and have used, just about
every word processor out there, and I *still* come back to Describe.
It's fast, which is important to me when the muse starts dictating
words in my head.

I never used DeScribe on a Windows system, so I can't help with the
resolution issues. One gotcha to watch out for, though: Describe's RTF
import works fine with files that are saved as RTF from Word95, but in
my experience it barfs on RTF files generated from Word97. I don't
know why it's that way, but if you encounter the problem at least
you'll recognize it.

--Esther

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:58:31, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

|     Okay, just got Describe in the mail today (thanks Paul).  Damn
| that's a good manual...  Anyways, I have it installed in all forms.  OS/2
| version, Win3.1 version (Win-OS/2), and also on my Windows 95 partition.
| Everything seems to work fine except on the Windows 95 side.  Apparently,
| each time I start it, it gives me this error message "...screen...".  I
| didn't write it down in detail, but suffice to say it was the number of
| colors displayed.  Apparently Describe Win32 does not like having 65k
| colors (High color - 16bit), nor does it like True Color - 32bit so that
| leaves me with a crummy 256 colors.  Don't know if the resolution matters
| any (set at 800x600 currently).  Does this "Frequent Flier CDROM" update
| the Windows 95 version since I have read it updates the OS/2 version.
| Interesting problem since the Windows 3.1 version did not give any such
| error message.
|     I'm standardizing myself on Describe at any event.  Now, this
| means I can type away doing whatever I normally do under OS/2 and can
| then print the document up under Win-OS/2 (or Windows 95) with the best
| possible printing quality that my inkjet printer can deliever.  Man this
| will just kick ass when I have photo's embedded in my Describe
| documents.  No more re-formatting!
|
| (To Buddy; it arrived, thanks)


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From: [e-mail]                                  02-Oct-99 16:43:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: AWE32 driver under Win-OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:27:46, [e-mail] (e-frog) wrote:

> Stan Goodman ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Of all the many files listed under AWE32 -- Win3.x on the Creative Labs
> : website, does anyone know which might be the basic DRIVER I need for
> : Win-OS/2, as distinct from the various available accesories for the card?
I
> : have downloaded several apparently good candidates for the driver, none of

> : which has proved to be an actual driver.
>
> Don't.
> In your Warp install, there's a README file in your root directory. It
> details how to go about adding sound support for Win-OS2 + AWE32.
> No extra download needed. It worked fine here.

Many thanks for this steer; which no doubt saved me from screwing up the
installation.

The process seems quite simple and logical, but did not go smoothly.  In
particular, the second driver ("Creative Sound Blaster 16 Wave and MIDI")
did not install; an error message popped up to tell me that the file was
not where it should be. What is the name of the file for this driver? Can I
download it from the Creative website, and will the driver intended for
Win3.1 work in Win-OS/2?

I continued with installation of the remaining two drivers, without
incident -- except that the expected question about restarting Win-OS/2 did
not appear in either case.

The last sentence in the directions are unclear to me: "[then] ... follow
the instructions in the Sound Blaster setup window to select the proper
port." What do I have to do to get to this window?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to [e-mail] will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: [e-mail]...               02-Oct-99 16:52:07
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <7t4kkq$5ic$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:

> With WordPerfect 5.2, I've heard conflicting
> reports about its quality...one too many horror stories regarding it for
> me to look at it seriously.

FWIW, I started writing my dissertation back in 1993 or so with
WordPerfect 5.2 for OS/2, but it crashed, burned, and took OS/2 down one
time too many, so I axed it in favor of DeScribe.  That act probably
shaved a month or two off the time it took me to finish my dissertation.
(WP8 for both Windows and Linux are MUCH more reliable, though.)

>     So, the only answer was Describe in my situation.  The idea was
> so that no matter on what platform I was on (either OS/2 or Windows 95)
> that I could work on the same document without any messing around with
> the formatting.  I think Describe should fit the bill quite nicely.

DeScribe will change the formatting of documents when you switch from one
platform to another, though, because of differences in printer drivers and
font handling.  This isn't likely to be a big deal for term papers and
whatnot (you'll just get a different number of pages, page breaks in
different locations, and so on), but it might be if precise layout is
critical.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                                   02-Oct-99 13:26:11
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: WPS install problems

From: Charlene Howell <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:45:25, [e-mail] (Buddy
> Donnelly) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:04:00, [e-mail] a ?crit dans un
> > message:
> >
> > > I cannot install any software on my WARP4 desktop with the EPFI
> > > install program without getting  the following message:
> > >
> > > EPFIE234:
> > > CANNOT CREATE "X" OBJECT ON THE WORKPLACE SHELL.  THE SETUP PARAMETER
> > > IS ' OBJECTID=<X_FOLDER>'
> > >
> > > WHERE X=THE PARTICULAR PROGRAM'S NAME I'M INSTALLING.
> > >
> > > IS THERE A WORKAROUND/SOLUTION?
> > >
> >
> > 1. Make sure you aren't using 4OS2.
> >
> > 2. Run CHECKINI/C on your system.
> >
> > 3. Turn off the caps lock key a little sooner?
> >
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Buddy
> >
> > Buddy Donnelly
> > [e-mail]
> >
> >
> Thanks for the input.
> I ran checkini shortly after posting my question, and it solved all my
> problems.
>
> That's quite a handy program.
>
> Will

 Wow! I never thought I would hear of anyone else with this problem.  I am
having this problem with installing Netscape plug-in pack.  It would install
abt. ahlf way thru then I would get a very similar error msg.

Do I run checkini /c from boot disks?  What do I do to run it?  I can't get
anything to install after installing Netscape. Mostly software choice stuff.
thanks for the great questions and to all wiwth great answers

Char

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From: [e-mail]                    02-Oct-99 21:42:05
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Dale Erwin ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I'm just wondering what you're going to do if some instructor
: requests a soft copy of one of your documents.

    Never thought of that.  Then again, being an arts student
(Anthropology/English) I don't forsee that as a possibility of ever
happening.

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From: [e-mail]               02-Oct-99 10:18:19
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: dvd player/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 25 Sep 1999 20:58:07 GMT, Carsten Frank wrote:

>I agree with you. Programmers all over the world, we need your help!

Would you like to volunteer and put togther 5000 orders at $120?   If
somebody can do that, I will pledge 3000 orders.   The 1 million dollar
figure is NOT non-sense.


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From: [e-mail]                                02-Oct-99 15:24:04
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

Esther Schindler wrote:
>
> Thanks for the kind words about the manual. (I wrote about a third of
> it.) <grin>
>
> I also agree with the other comment about it being nearly impossible
> to pry oneself away from Describe... I have, and have used, just about
> every word processor out there, and I *still* come back to Describe.
> It's fast, which is important to me when the muse starts dictating
> words in my head.
>
> I never used DeScribe on a Windows system, so I can't help with the
> resolution issues. One gotcha to watch out for, though: Describe's RTF
> import works fine with files that are saved as RTF from Word95, but in
> my experience it barfs on RTF files generated from Word97. I don't
> know why it's that way, but if you encounter the problem at least
> you'll recognize it.
>
> --Esther

I also had problems generating a .rtf file from DeScribe and then
importing it into StarOffice.  It required a lot of reformatting,
but was better than having to re-key everying from scratch.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Garage/5876/index.html">

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From: [e-mail]                     02-Oct-99 21:43:19
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:23:29 -0400, Walter S. Rue wrote:

->Someone addressed this earlier (before I know I had the problem too),
->but I can't find the post.
->
->In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
->the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
->elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
->mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
->no effect.
->
->But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
->WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
->works!
->
->Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?

It's fixpack 11 that does this. It starts setting the Archive attribute on
directories and some things break when this happens. Remove the archive
attribute using attrib -a dirname and it should be OK. Or back out of FP11
or upgrade to FP12 which _should_ fix this.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                      02-Oct-99 17:28:06
  To: All                                               02-Oct-99 22:25:16
Subj: Re: Problem with WSEB and Partition Magic 3.0 -> Resized Partion wont b

From: [e-mail] (Carsten Frank)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:12:55, [e-mail] (Carsten
Frank) wrote:

> Configuration:
>
>
> Warp Server for Ebusiness
> ONLY hpfs386 no jvs
>
> 2 SCSI drives
>
> My Problem:
>
> First I had the 2 disk formated with hpfs.
> No I have changed the size of the second harddisk with partion magic
> to 2 Gig for adding a new partion. Now the resized partion with hpfs
> is not recognized anymore. If I start the lvmgui the resized partion
> is recognized. He says:
>
> Volume Name    Partion   Status    File System   Size   Type
>
>                                  os2       startable       HPFS
> 1702    Primary
>
>
> The volume Name is blank. Is this the reason?
>
> The c partion has a volume name.
>
> what can I do
>
> Thanks

Oh, I solved the problem. It was the first time working with the lvm.
I had to assign a drive letter to this partion. On warp 4 it was
recognized automatically.


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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 00:59:22
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:06
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:24:08, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

| I also had problems generating a .rtf file from DeScribe and then
| importing it into StarOffice.  It required a lot of reformatting,
| but was better than having to re-key everying from scratch.

When you have a choice, as it seems you did, I find that exporting as
WordPerfect does a pretty good job.

--Esther


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From: [e-mail]                          03-Oct-99 00:45:23
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:06
Subj: Wordpro Woes

From: [e-mail]

I have a document that I have created in Lotus
Wordpro. I want to print the document with the
gridlines, the gridlines appear on the screen,
but they will not print out on the paper. Please
help me with any suggestions.

Thank you,

Wordpro Woes


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                               02-Oct-99 15:23:14
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:06
Subj: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: "Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]>

Someone addressed this earlier (before I know I had the problem too),
but I can't find the post.

In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
no effect.

But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
works!

Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?

Thanks in advance.

Walter

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From: [e-mail]                                 02-Oct-99 19:25:02
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:06
Subj: Re: Problem with WSEB and Partition Magic 3.0 -> Resized Partion wont b

From: "Hal Murray" <[e-mail]>

 > Configuration:
 >
 >
 > Warp Server for Ebusiness
 > ONLY hpfs386 no jvs
 >
 > 2 SCSI drives
 >
 > My Problem:
 >
 > First I had the 2 disk formated with hpfs.
 > No I have changed the size of the second harddisk with partion
magic
 > to 2 Gig for adding a new partion. Now the resized partion with
hpfs
 > is not recognized anymore. If I start the lvmgui the resized
partion
 > is recognized. He says:
 >
 > Volume Name    Partion   Status    File System   Size   Type
 >
 >                                  os2       startable       HPFS

 > 1702    Primary
 >
 >
 > The volume Name is blank. Is this the reason?
 >
 > The c partion has a volume name.
 >
 > what can I do
 >
 > Thanks
What version of Partition Magic did you use? I would stay away from
ver 4.0 or 4.01. I use PM 3.05T exclusively.

Hal Murray
Calgary, AB

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From: [e-mail]                           02-Oct-99 17:17:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Jim Stuyck wrote:
>
> "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
>
> > Frank McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
> > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
> >
> > [***SNIP!!!***]
> >
> > >
> > > Well, now that you mention it...
> > >
> > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
>
> Sounds like someone forgot to punch a hole in his carriage control
> tape, or screwed up gluing it together and it came apart!  ;-)
> (I go waaaay back, too.  Been there, done that.)
>
> > I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
> > in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
> > MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
> > 1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
> > at pumping out pages of stuff.
>
> No 1403-N1 could (or can) hold a candle to, say, an IBM 3800 which is
> a laser machine that uses cut paper, unlike the fanfold of the 1403.  And
> the 3800 has been around for a looooong time.
>
> Where have you been?  ;-)
>
> Jim Stuyck

Sorry - meant the everyday SOHO laser printers. Mind you, I think the
3800 was after my experiences with the 1403. I do remember a non-IBM
printer called a Photon, which used lenses, daisy wheels and toner to
produce scalable fonts and xerographic printing, and the first
legitimate laser printers I dealt with were the Imagen and the early
Xerox products - both of which tended to run at 4 or so ppm if lucky.

But I've seen what you refer to: laser printers that run at a speed that
to the eye approaches that of a printing press. I have also seen the
invoice for that type of printer - outta my budget! ;)
--

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Further, the use of the term "spam" should in no way be construed
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with such Internet abuse. Indeed, Hormel has publicly expressed
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From: [e-mail]                                02-Oct-99 15:17:21
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

John Hong wrote:
>
> Kim Cheung ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : >     Lotus Word Pro 96 for OS/2 I know can read them, and I'll assume
> : >the 97 version can, too.  However, I believe the Describe filter for Word
> : >Pro is strictly a OS/2 specific feature.  The Windows 95 version of Word
> : >Pro 96 I know does not have a Describe filter.  But I guess the advantage
> : >there is that you can then export it as a Word document.
>
> : Sorry to throw cold water your way - these conversion features do not work
> : very well except for VERY simple documents.
>
>         Can you blame them?  Especially considering that Describe I don't
> believe *ever* published their file formatting much like IBM Works...
>
> : DeScibe is like drug - once you get into it, it's hard to pull away.
Very
> : sad but I wouldn't use it (as much as I love to).    Start with SO, it's
> : supported.
>
>         StarOffice?  You must be joking...on a AMD 5x86-133mhz with 16 MB
> of RAM, StarOffice is a pretty lousy pick.  Lotus Word Pro 96, while a
> little better is still slow on my machine.  Besides, I wanted to get
> lighter...not heavier in features.  What I wanted was something that I
> could use on both ends, OS/2 and Windows 95.  Only one fits that, that
> would suit is Describe.  Only other options would've been StarOffice as
> you had already suggested, Lotus Word Pro 96, and WordPerfect 5.2.  First
> two are simply too resource hungry for my liking, especially considering
> I'll be looking to create 20-30 page term papers with embedded graphics
> for this semester.  With StarOffice or Word Pro 96, that ain't gonna be
> pretty on my slim machine.  With WordPerfect 5.2, I've heard conflicting
> reports about its quality...one too many horror stories regarding it for
> me to look at it seriously.  As well I have WordPerfect 8 for Win95, but I'd
> rather keep that off this machine since it is also a little slow.
>         So, the only answer was Describe in my situation.  The idea was
> so that no matter on what platform I was on (either OS/2 or Windows 95)
> that I could work on the same document without any messing around with
> the formatting.  I think Describe should fit the bill quite nicely.  I
> find myself playing games and surfing the web on Windows 95 a lot now,
> whereas with OS/2 I mainly do the word processing and downloading with
> wget and reading the Usenet and email.

I'm just wondering what you're going to do if some instructor
requests a soft copy of one of your documents.
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Garage/5876/index.html">

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From: [e-mail]                           02-Oct-99 20:38:22
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Web Browser History Feature - when "Back" doesn't cut it

From: [e-mail] (Craig Silver)

I've been out of the OS/2 stream for a few years now - I blame it on
work, but that's another thread.

My question is about the great browser history feature that I once
used in an old OS/2 web browser, the name of which I forget.  It was
the popular browser back in the Warp days, and you could get a
detailed "map" of everywhere you'd navigated during a particular
session.  Does anyone know of an IE or Netscape (Windows version)
addon that provides this functionality?  I can't believe the Windows
world doesn't have this.  Or should I be surprised?

Thanks for any info,
Craig

P.S. Sorry for saying the W word in this group ;)

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From: [e-mail]                          03-Oct-99 02:52:09
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: What might be next?

From: Lee Thoresen <[e-mail]>

I have just done the FP12 to my warp 4.  I am noticing stuff going
past refering to Aurora.  I have also seen references to a warp
4.5.  Are these things I should be considering to move to next?
What are they and where are they to be obtained?

Lee

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From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net                            02-Oct-99 20:55:15
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: dvd player/2

From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci)

here is 1 order

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:18:38, "Kim Cheung"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> On 25 Sep 1999 20:58:07 GMT, Carsten Frank wrote:
>
> >I agree with you. Programmers all over the world, we need your help!
>
> Would you like to volunteer and put togther 5000 orders at $120?   If
> somebody can do that, I will pledge 3000 orders.   The 1 million dollar
> figure is NOT non-sense.
>
>


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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 03:32:16
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: [e-mail]


> You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application >
> that isn't allow the shutdown...

The last version of WatchCat that I used, had a documented problem with
PS/2 mice.

Regards,
Al S.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                             02-Oct-99 22:52:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail] (Scott Jones)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:37:57, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:02:12, Siobhan Perricone
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I went to hobbes.nmsu.edu and found a file named bootos2.zip but
> > nothing named btos290.zip.  I am not familiar with what the "usual
> > places" would be (I've only been working on OS/2 for four weeks now,
> > I'd never even seen a photo of it before then).  Could you be a little
> > more specific please?
> >
>
> OK (welcome to the world of OS/2, by the way).
>
> The BOOT OS2 package seems to come in two different file names. One is
> BOOTOS2.ZIP, the other in BTOS2xxx.ZIP, where xxx is the version
> number (actually, 290 seems to have the 291 version in it). You will
> need to unzip the BOOTOS2.ZIP file, in order to find out which version
> it contains.

And my inherent laziness comes back to bite me in the butt.  I'm the one
who's been uploading the past few versions to Hobbes (including the
BTOS2xxx.ZIP files and the most recent bootos2.zip).  The last one before
bootos2.zip was btos2917.zip (v9.17).  bootos2.zip is v9.20.  Previously,
I renamed the file from Ken Kahn's regular bootos2.zip to one reflecting
the current version number.  This last time, I got lazy and kept Mr.
Kahn's filename, not realizing the confusion it might cause.  Okay, it's
back to BTOS2xxx.ZIP for the next version he releases.

--
Scott Jones
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                             01-Oct-99 09:48:28
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: "Jan Hartman" <[e-mail]>

Hi!

I need to move some files with long filenames from my
hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.

How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?

Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file
with
the win-version?

Thanks for all help,

/ Jan
===================================================
Jan Hartman
Filosofiska institutionen/Department of Philosophy
Lunds Universitet/Lund University
Kungshuset, Lundagård                                  [phone]
S-222 22 Lund                                              fax +46-(0)46
2224424
Sweden
E-mail: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                    03-Oct-99 03:02:02
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Esther Schindler ([e-mail]) wrote:

: |         Exactly!  Once word processors got to the level of Word 6 and
: | WordPerfect 6 in features (or even WordPerfect 5.1 for that matter), its
: | been downhill since, IMO.  Describe 5 is on that level which is just
: | perfect for me.

: Well, it's easy to get a writer started in any discussion about her
: choice of word processor. <grin> I know quite a few well-known
: novelists who use WordPerfect 5.1, because it's really fast... and
: when you're writing books and magazine articles, you don't use
: formatting any fancier than italics.

    I agree wholeheartedly!  I started off with WordPerfect 5.1 and
have been using it ever since.  I'm switching to Describe mainly because
it is easier to do basic DTP functions (ie. adding a graphic) under a GUI
than it is without.  I really don't like what word processors have become
lately.  I mean, if I want to do a webpage, I'd use a HTML editor, not a
word processor.  If I wanted to do serious DTP, then I'd get a serious
DTP program like PageMaker or Ventura.
    In the past I had tried out Word 6, WordPerfect 7, WordPerfect 8,
AmiPro 3.0, Word Pro 96, StarOffice.  Yet up until Describe came along, it
had always been WordPerfect 5.1 for me.
    Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.

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From: [e-mail]                    03-Oct-99 03:04:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Daniel Say ([e-mail]) wrote:

: ---------
:     and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
:     sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.

    I came across a frontend of that for OS/2 at Hobbes a while ago.
What kind of features did that have?


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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 01:08:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Sun StarOffice and PGP???

From: "RichS" <[e-mail]>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I finally got around to installing Sun's StarOffice and liked what I saw. A
bit strange to find what I'm looking for, but I think I can get used to it...


But as far as newsgroups and email, there's no support for PGP that I can
find. Does anyone out there know differently? Any chance of a rexx hook like
in PMMail (or is that PMINews?)(I'm not a rexx person). If I could get PGP to
work in StarOffice, I might just switch over since Stardock is obviously
pulling out of OS/2 (and trying their damndest to kill it on the way) and who
knows if either PMMail or PMINews will continue? (a completely different
subject...)

Anyway, if I missed something, please let me know. If there's any rexx gurus
out there (Jamie?), maybe they can work some magic....

Thanks...
Rich...


P.S. Anyone know the encryption lever of the StarOffic browser? Couldn't find
that info either, but I doubt it's 128bit since it's freely available for
download...

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
-
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From: [e-mail]                                        03-Oct-99 02:49:19
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps Esther Schindler <[e-mail]> wrote:
: On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:45:50, [e-mail] (John
: Hong) wrote:

: | : It's fast, which is important to me when the muse starts dictating
: | : words in my head.
: |
: |         Exactly!  Once word processors got to the level of Word 6 and
: | WordPerfect 6 in features (or even WordPerfect 5.1 for that matter), its
: | been downhill since, IMO.  Describe 5 is on that level which is just
: | perfect for me.

: Well, it's easy to get a writer started in any discussion about her
: choice of word processor. <grin> I know quite a few well-known
: novelists who use WordPerfect 5.1, because it's really fast... and
: when you're writing books and magazine articles, you don't use
: formatting any fancier than italics.
: --Esther

---------
    and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
    sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.

    What's better is that 28 dictionaries / Thesauraus
    became available with the new OS/2 version of Netscape
    and they work with this word processor XyWrite, and
    its sister, NotaBene.
                    Daniel Say

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From: [e-mail]                              03-Oct-99 00:15:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 03:16:07
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)

Kris,
    Thanks for the information. Someone else suggested the same thing
about Joliet (whatever that means).  You are  right......many of the
files are truncated.  An example - remember.html reads as
rememb~1.htm . It seems that all html have been reduced in length and
a ~1 added to the filename.
    If this is the problem what is the solution - or is there a solution?
Thanks lots,
Willard


In message <[e-mail]> - Kris Kadela
<[e-mail]>Sat, 02 Oct 1999 13:22:57 -0600 writes:
:>
:>Probably a version of Joliet that OS/2 doesn't understand. Are the file
:>names truncated?
:>
:>"A. Willard Reese" wrote:
:>>
:>> My problem is this:
:>>         I have just got my ISP, who is local, to burn my website on a
:>> cdrom.  It was done
:>> on a Win98 machine and works fine on my machine when running WIN95 and
:>> Win98
:>> ver of Netscape. However,
:>>     When I try to run it in OS2 by bringing up the cdrom directory and
:>> clicking on
:>> index.html, Netscape 4.61 opens OK and the home page is shown. When I
:>> click on jpeg
:>> links on the home page they also open OK.  When I try to open an .HTML
:>> link, I get an
:>> error message "Can't find J:\xxxxx.html".  This is true of all html's,
:>> J is my cdrom drive
:>> in OS2.
:>>     Why can't Netscape in OS2 find the files when Windows95 can. E is
:>> my cdrom
:>> drive in Win95. J is my cdrom drive in OS2.
:>>     I've tried a dozen different things but nothing seems to work.
:>> Got any ideas?
:>> Regards,
:>> Willard




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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 01:01:11
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: Web Browser History Feature - when "Back" doesn't cut it

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

I don't use windoze, but Comm/2 will display history by using Ctrl-H
Not as pretty as WebEx's History map.

Mark


On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:38:44, [e-mail] (Craig Silver)
wrote:

-)I've been out of the OS/2 stream for a few years now - I blame it on
-)work, but that's another thread.
-)
-)My question is about the great browser history feature that I once
-)used in an old OS/2 web browser, the name of which I forget.  It was
-)the popular browser back in the Warp days, and you could get a
-)detailed "map" of everywhere you'd navigated during a particular
-)session.  Does anyone know of an IE or Netscape (Windows version)
-)addon that provides this functionality?  I can't believe the Windows
-)world doesn't have this.  Or should I be surprised?
-)
-)Thanks for any info,
-)Craig
-)
-)P.S. Sorry for saying the W word in this group ;)


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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 01:00:29
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:45:50, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

| : It's fast, which is important to me when the muse starts dictating
| : words in my head.
|
|         Exactly!  Once word processors got to the level of Word 6 and
| WordPerfect 6 in features (or even WordPerfect 5.1 for that matter), its
| been downhill since, IMO.  Describe 5 is on that level which is just
| perfect for me.

Well, it's easy to get a writer started in any discussion about her
choice of word processor. <grin> I know quite a few well-known
novelists who use WordPerfect 5.1, because it's really fast... and
when you're writing books and magazine articles, you don't use
formatting any fancier than italics.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 01:07:10
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:15:11, [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)
wrote:

> Kris,
>     Thanks for the information. Someone else suggested the same thing
> about Joliet (whatever that means).  You are  right......many of the
> files are truncated.  An example - remember.html reads as
> rememb~1.htm . It seems that all html have been reduced in length and
> a ~1 added to the filename.
>     If this is the problem what is the solution - or is there a solution?
> Thanks lots,

Try adding the /W switch to the CDIFS.IFS statement
in the config.sys file. This will tell it to use the Joliet filenames.

If that does not work, try downloading the JCDFS.zip file
from Hobbes.

URL ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/filesys/jdcfs.zip

This is a replacement CDIFS.IFS that purports to work
with Joliet Level 3 (used by most Windows CD burning
software).

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                    03-Oct-99 01:08:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Roy Brickley <[e-mail]>

  Brad,

    I also want to commend everyone involved at DB2 support for the
  excellant UDB 6.1 PDE CD package. I did have to download Visual Age for Java
  Entry Edition 2.0, as the CDs didn't include an OS/2 version!

    Two questions, for anyone proferring an answer:

  1). I installed DB2 Personal Connect after getting all of UDB PDE 6.1 base
    working. Now, I get a countdown from 60 days message at reboots that
    Personal Connect will expire if I don't supply a license key. Will that
    happen. This is supposed to be the non-expiring PDE version of UDB.

  2). After all else installed and working, I installed VA/Java EE 2.0. When I

   try using Help and Search within DB2, I'm told the NetQ server can't be
   located. When I fire up VA/Java and Help, its Search functions fine. I know
   both DB2 UDB and VA/Java install NetQ Search, and I thought VA/Java had
   to be installed last. What gives with the DB2 search?

 Thanks again for the great work. I can use DBExpert as a great graphical
 front end for non-BLOB tables (also highly recommended), but Visualizer and
 Visualizer Flight, which worked great with DB2/2 1.2, won't fly with UDB.
 I also miss Query Manager from 1.2 days :(

 Roy
y

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From: [e-mail]               02-Oct-99 21:33:04
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 05:13:17
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On 3 Oct 1999 01:00:58 GMT, Esther Schindler wrote:

>Well, it's easy to get a writer started in any discussion about her
>choice of word processor. <grin> I know quite a few well-known
>novelists who use WordPerfect 5.1, because it's really fast... and
>when you're writing books and magazine articles, you don't use
>formatting any fancier than italics.

Please, don't press where it hurts.   I still have an manual in DeScribe that
are several hundred pages with hundreds of screen shots.   It never, never
give me any headache.   Of course, before that, I have a manual thats over a
thousand page - in Lotus Manuscript.

The quality of word processors has been going downhill ever since the
Manuscript days!!!



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From: [e-mail]                                   02-Oct-99 22:05:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: 3COM NIC for cable-internet:  generic equiv?

From: "John W. Hardy" <[e-mail]>

Hello;

I just signed up for cable internet access through MediaOne/AT&T.
Installers come October 12th. They recommend 3COM 10BaseT. It looks like
a model #3C905C-TX-M would be 3COM's best 10/100 PCI card (or a
3C905B-COMBO if I want a BNC connector too). The cheapest I've seen them
selling for is $43, plus S&H. This is not a whole lot of money, but I
wonder if there is a generic equivalent.

I'll get one for my NT machine (to satisfy the installers), but will
want one for my OS/2 machine too, which is where I really want to work
from anyway.

Free installation (normally $100), $19.95/mo for 3 months, $39.95/mo
thereafter (if I already have cable-TV). 1.5MB/sec downloads, 300KB/sec
uploads, 10M website space, 4 e-mail addresses. This is in Evanston, IL.

Guess I'll have to temporarily disconnect and hide all of those cable
extensions to other TV sets! Thank you.

John

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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 00:30:28
  To: [e-mail]                     03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

To: Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]>
From: "Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]>

The ATTRIB technique worked.  Thank you!

Two things are interesting: 1) I tried turning off (un-checking) the
Archive in Properties but it didn't seem to work.  Only the command line
ATTRIB worked.  2) This must be redone each time a new WORDPRO document
is opened.  Nuisance!

I'll install FP12 next week.  I hope you're correct about it.


Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:23:29 -0400, Walter S. Rue wrote:
>
> ->Someone addressed this earlier (before I know I had the problem too),
> ->but I can't find the post.
> ->
> ->In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
> ->the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
> ->elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
> ->mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
> ->no effect.
> ->
> ->But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
> ->WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
> ->works!
> ->
> ->Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?
>
> It's fixpack 11 that does this. It starts setting the Archive attribute on
> directories and some things break when this happens. Remove the archive
> attribute using attrib -a dirname and it should be OK. Or back out of FP11
> or upgrade to FP12 which _should_ fix this.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> ([e-mail] or [e-mail])

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From: jkross@[e-mail]                   03-Oct-99 05:36:23
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 10:24:09
Subj: Re: I'm late:  was: Re: Another reason that Photo>Graphics doesn't answ

From: jkross@[e-mail] (John Ross)


:>Photo>Graphics is an OS/2 graphics package...a fairly good one too.
:>Recently its developer has decided to stop upgrading and supporting

:>offering the program for download along with a free licence...you just
:>have to email for a password to register the app.  I got my password
:>just a few days after requesting it...some people here seem to be
:>having a lot of trouble making contact however.


I got the key in my mail before I finished downloading the program. <G>
This was on Oct. 1 .

-john ross

http://www.oxford.net/~jkross

Remove "@I_hate_spam" from address to reply....


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From: [e-mail]                          03-Oct-99 10:01:17
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Winfried Tilanus)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:00:58, [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)
wrote:

> Well, it's easy to get a writer started in any discussion about her
> choice of word processor. <grin>

That is one of the things that makes the OS/2 - word processing
mailinglist so charming sometimes... (although it is very quiet
lately)

> I know quite a few well-known
> novelists who use WordPerfect 5.1, because it's really fast... and
> when you're writing books and magazine articles, you don't use
> formatting any fancier than italics.

I agree that WordPerfect 5.1 does all the formatting you need when
your work is going to be published (and much more than that), and it's
file format is still one of the best to exchange documents. But I fell
for the charms of Describe, and I use WP 5.1 nowadays only to check
the formatting of a text before submitting it.

Winfried

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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 12:02:19
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: 3COM NIC for cable-internet:  generic equiv?

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

There are cetainly cheaper NICs than 3Coms -- D-Link and LinkSys, for
example --  but I don't know whether their performance is as good.

As for having to remove/hide your cable connections to additional sets: I
thought they were no longer allowed to charge for extra sets. CableVision
(on Long Island, NY) charges extra to *install* outlets in excess of two,
but I am sure there is no extra per-set or per-outlet charge.


"John W. Hardy" wrote:

> Hello;
>
> I just signed up for cable internet access through MediaOne/AT&T.
> Installers come October 12th. They recommend 3COM 10BaseT. It looks like
> a model #3C905C-TX-M would be 3COM's best 10/100 PCI card (or a
> 3C905B-COMBO if I want a BNC connector too). The cheapest I've seen them
> selling for is $43, plus S&H. This is not a whole lot of money, but I
> wonder if there is a generic equivalent.
>
> I'll get one for my NT machine (to satisfy the installers), but will
> want one for my OS/2 machine too, which is where I really want to work
> from anyway.
>
> Free installation (normally $100), $19.95/mo for 3 months, $39.95/mo
> thereafter (if I already have cable-TV). 1.5MB/sec downloads, 300KB/sec
> uploads, 10M website space, 4 e-mail addresses. This is in Evanston, IL.
>
> Guess I'll have to temporarily disconnect and hide all of those cable
> extensions to other TV sets! Thank you.
>
> John

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From: [e-mail]                                03-Oct-99 21:51:08
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: Any Foxbase alike OS/2-alternative?

From: [e-mail]

In
<[e-mail]>,
on 10/03/99
   at 05:23 PM, [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de
Bruijn) said:

>Anybody aware of a pure OS/2-alternative?

  'OnCmd' ver 3.0 (xBase for OS/2 )  produced by On-LineData
in Kitchner Ont. Can.  <http://www.onlinedata.com>  to me is
the closest to FoxPro 2.x in my estimation. Much of Foxpro's
code can be run by OnCmd -many of the interfaces (screens)
have to be rewritten because OnCmd uses an OS/2 graphical
screen.
  'Alaska'  also is OS/2 but is more like 'Clipper'  (IMO)
and very heavy duty.
  'DBExpert' by Sundial is of a different  code format but
does use the xBase databases, and I believe is the most
popular of the OS/2 xbase related programs
<http://www.sundialsystems.com/>   I just finished up a set
of apps useing FoxPro X v 2.5 and they run very fast under
OS/2 DOS! (never say die)

Have a good one!

wmmorrow (at) flash (dot) net
 All opinion expressed are my own - no one else believes
them.


Bill M.

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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 06:34:18
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 19:48:20
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <[e-mail]>, on 10/02/99 at 02:22 PM,
   [e-mail] said:

> The entire server clone seems to work just fine with the following
> notes.  You will have to run CHKDSK on it a couple times from the
> utility disks to get rid of that initial 'error' your see with new
> drives that 'we are fixing a minor disk error' and there is 'lost data'
> reported, which goes away.  However, try as we might, we can't find it.
> We suspect it may be the RAS network log data which we already realize
> won't be correct, things like that.  I'll be glad be corrected if those
> things make any difference anyway during a rebuild; they seem totally
> fluid and dynamic issues on a running system anyway to my thinking..

> In the end of the CHKDSK, there are no files 'found' or left as .CHK
> items for us to see...

> Comments welcome...

When you prepared the utility disks, you likely got the uhpfs.dll file
from the distribution CD, not the updated version which was released
almost simultaneously with Warp 4. The "error" which you report was a bug
in handling of the . and .. entries on  drives larger than 2 gigs. It was
the result of a quick "fix" in the gold code to handle DPT scsi adapters
made just before the code was locked.

If you have the statement "Set Copyfromfloppy=1" in config.sys, then it
was indeed the original UHPFS.DLL which found its way onto the floppy
utility disks.


--
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---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: [e-mail]-m...               03-Oct-99 21:04:18
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:24
Subj: Re: Sun StarOffice and PGP???

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Martin Schafföner)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:08:50, "RichS" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I finally got around to installing Sun's StarOffice and liked what I saw. A
> bit strange to find what I'm looking for, but I think I can get used to
it...
>
>
> But as far as newsgroups and email, there's no support for PGP that I can
> find. Does anyone out there know differently? Any chance of a rexx hook like
> in PMMail (or is that PMINews?)(I'm not a rexx person). If I could get PGP
to
> work in StarOffice, I might just switch over since Stardock is obviously
> pulling out of OS/2 (and trying their damndest to kill it on the way) and
who
> knows if either PMMail or PMINews will continue? (a completely different
> subject...)
>
> Anyway, if I missed something, please let me know. If there's any rexx gurus
> out there (Jamie?), maybe they can work some magic....
>
> Thanks...
> Rich...
>
>
I just talked to one of the StarOffice developers this weekend and
here is what I picked up "by accident":  The hooks are all in there
and they would work if there was a native PGP interface in os/2.
There is one on Windows in the winpgp.dll or something like that.
Now, he said that SUN would not sit down and write this interface,
which I can understand as it is not their job, but if we could find
anybody to do it, we would have pgp-enabled staroffice.


Martin Schafföner

Suzuki GS650G Katana
OS/2 Warp 4 with FixPak 11
There are currently 32 processes
with 125 threads active.
This machine's uptime 1h 8min 10sec.

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From: [e-mail]                                   03-Oct-99 21:20:27
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:24
Subj: Re: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: [e-mail] (Julian Thomas)

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
   at 09:48 AM, "Jan Hartman" <[e-mail]> said:

>I need to move some files with long filenames from my
>hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.

>How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?

>Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file with
>the win-version?

Not only "should" work - it actually does.  I've done it with no problems.

--
 Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net  http://home.epix.net/~jt
 remove letter a for email (or switch . and @)
 Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc  http://www.possi.org
 In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State!
 -- --
 Johnson's Corollary:  computers have a reset button for a reason.



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From: [e-mail]                                03-Oct-99 13:35:15
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:24
Subj: J Street Mailer Question

From: [e-mail] (Gary Crossno)

How does one set/change file associations for J Street
Mailer?

Gary Crossno

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From: [e-mail]                         03-Oct-99 14:05:00
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:24
Subj: Where to get the Staroffice for OS2 upgrade from 5.0  to 5.1?

From: Paul Zarembka <[e-mail]>

Where can I get the Staroffice for OS2 upgrade from 5.0 5 to 5.1
without downloading the whole 5.1 file?  Thanks for any help.  Paul
Zarembka

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From: [e-mail]                              03-Oct-99 14:18:05
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:24
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)

Lorne,
    Thanks much. Adding the /W to the cdfs.ifs statement fixed the
truncated names in the directory and everything works OK when I drag
the index.html file into Netscape.  If however, I just double click on
the index.html filename, Netscape refuses to open and gives the
message that it "unable to parse os2pref.js file".
If I open Netscape directly and drag and drop the Index.html file into
it, all html links work ok.  At least things are working.  Do you know
if adding the /W has any effect on any other programs that might run
from the cdrom?
    I may try the other other cdfs file from Hobbes and see what happens.
Again, thank you for resolving this problem for me.
Willard



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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 14:28:21
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:49:38, Daniel Say <[e-mail]> wrote:
|         and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
|         sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.

It is? Cool! I never used XYWrite personally, though I knew a few
people who swore by it. Years ago, when we still had the computer
store, I also sold a copy of Nota Bene to a nun who needed to write in
Greek and Hebrew as well as English.

|         What's better is that 28 dictionaries / Thesauraus
|         became available with the new OS/2 version of Netscape
|         and they work with this word processor XyWrite, and
|         its sister, NotaBene.

Other than spell checking, I do most of my dictionary checking online
these days. IIRC, dictionary.com is the one that'll look up a word in
several dictionaries at once. Great stuff.

--Esther



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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 14:31:22
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:02:05, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

| I started off with WordPerfect 5.1 and
| have been using it ever since.  I'm switching to Describe mainly because
| it is easier to do basic DTP functions (ie. adding a graphic) under a GUI
| than it is without.  I really don't like what word processors have become
| lately.  I mean, if I want to do a webpage, I'd use a HTML editor, not a
| word processor.  If I wanted to do serious DTP, then I'd get a serious
| DTP program like PageMaker or Ventura.
|         In the past I had tried out Word 6, WordPerfect 7, WordPerfect 8,
| AmiPro 3.0, Word Pro 96, StarOffice.  Yet up until Describe came along, it
| had always been WordPerfect 5.1 for me.

Actually, I have a fond spot in my heart for WordPerfect 6 for DOS,
which let you switch back-and-forth from a GUI to text. (I also wrote
80 pages of the WordPerfect 6 DOS SuperBook... that was my first
published book-anything.)

Ventura's no longer anywhere on top for real DTP. It's Quark,
Pagemaker, and arguably Framemaker. (We use Framemaker on the Mac to
put together _extended attributes_.)

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                                    03-Oct-99 19:00:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Eusebio Garate  <[e-mail]> writes:
> Hello,
> I recently purchased a SCSI CD-RW (Philips CDD3600) and I am trying to
> get it to work with OS/2 Warp 4 (Fixpak 11). I have installed CDrecord/2
> and some GUI interfaces (CDwrite, CDTools).

Where are CDwrite and CDTools? Neither Hobbes nor Leo seem to have them.

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                 02-Oct-99 13:39:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Alan Boritz) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>>[e-mail] (Alan Boritz) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[e-mail]>, John M Price PhD
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>In comp.os.os2.apps article <[e-mail]> Alan Boritz
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>: In article <7sktrg$ehl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>>>:>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said
a new
>>>>:>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>>>>
>>>>: Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
>>>>
>>>>Why are you spreading this ill informed crap?
>>>
>>>It's not "ill informed," and far from "crap."
>...
>>Maybe to put to you what he was saying another way -- for
>>maybe about the thirtieth time: Southsoft is not out of
>>business.
>
>They sure seem to be.  You'd think that a complaint of PMMail not retaining
>it's serial number, or not being able to read ANY messages should elicit even
>a short, "we're a little busy right now but we'll get back to you as soon as

Huh?  This is new to me, even from you, who seems to have
experienced every single possible possible screwup from his
computer. I suggest reformatting and starting from scratch.


>we can."  Instead, BMT Micro knows that they're selling a product that
reverts
>back to it's unregistered state, even after paying full price.  I'm sorry to
>see that that's the way they do business.  I'd like to help spread the news
to
>as many potential customers that neither of them support the product when it
>has serious problems.

You're not spreading news, you're spreading bullshit.

>>Even those of us who wish they were more
>>responsive would probably give them at least the chance to
>>bring out the next version before flaming them at every
>>turn.
>
>You must suck up big time, or perhaps it's just that you're a very
undemanding
>user?

In fact, you vile little putz, I have had my own problems
with PMMail with releases 2-3 years ago and have dished it
out when I felt it necessary.  However, there were others
experiencing the same problems.

Why did you snip the part where I called you an asshole?

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                 03-Oct-99 09:56:01
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:

>Daniel Say ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: ---------
>:     and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
>:     sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.
>
>    I came across a frontend of that for OS/2 at Hobbes a while ago.
>What kind of features did that have?

I've been preaching about the Xy-OS/2 shell for prolly three
years now, John, it's hard to believe you've missed my spam!
But since you asked:

The Xy-OS/2 shell is but one part of a sizeable integrated
add-on for Xywrite IV developed by two brilliant amateur (in
the best sense of the word) programmers named Robert
Holmgren and Carl DiStefano.  It makes use of Xy IV's
capacity to incorporate a massive help frame using paltry
memory resources and allowing for full use of XyWrite's
truly astonishing macro capability.

Had Messrs. Holmgren and DiStefano but used Xywwweb (thus
have they named the overall shell, now up to about its 30th
revision) simply to allow Xywrite to do practically anything
an editor would wish it to -- from exceedingly celever
character conversions, command stacks, calculations,
calendars -- and I'm not out of the C's -- that would have
been enough.  But as OS/2 users, they've put together a
package which exploits OS/2's capacity for integration and
multitasking in a fashion which, in its humble way, can make
DDE look like the bad joke it is.  Robert conventionally
uses XyWrite to produce documents with long filenames.
Carl, I believe, does not use a conventional e-mail client:
instead, he reads and replies everything from within
Xywrite, using Hacksaw.  Other things they've made it
possible to do: cut and paste from within full-screen
Xywrite sessions (thanks also to Don Hawkinson on that one)
read weather forecasts culled from the Web, start ANY OS/2
program from within XyWrite, without leaving it.

If it sounds like Rube Goldbergian hacking and kludgemanship
-- well, maybe it is.  But once you see it at work, and
start working with it yourself, you might find you'll never
want to write with anything else again.

XyWrite and OS/2 have a great deal in common -- of course,
they were also for one brief shining moment, joined at the
hip, when IBM bought it with the intention of making Xy
OS/2's wp application (Signature).  Xy has and has always
been, in the opinion of many, the DOS word-processing
program, thanks to its phenomenal stability, user
customization, and speed.  (I might be using Describe more,
except that Xywrite is perfect.)  What XY and OS/2 share, to
me, are stability, user-customizability, and the fact it
rewards (indeed requires) patient study and exploration.

Xywrite for DOS is not really being developed anymore; The
Technology Group, run by a lawyer who has misled, abused,
and manipulated the XyWrite user community for years now,
now develops the Windoze version of XyWrite, called
SmartWords (SmurfWarts).  Many members of the XyWrite
listserv have been waiting to beta-test Smurfwarts for years
now, but the owner of the company, who is developing SW
primarily as some kind integrated document application for
lawyers, has failed to deliver.  Meanwhile, the SW engine
apparently still drives the academic-writing oriented Nota
Bene word processor, which has seen a new release which has
a demo available at

    http://www.notabene.com/winsws_demo.html

(Have heard reports it giving OS/2 fits, however).

To really get what you want out of XyWrite, though, you want
to be running it in a command-line session -- ideally full-
screen under OS/2.  If you're at all curious about it, and
want to get an idea just why some OS/2 users vow to use the
Xy-OS/2 combination till kingdom come, hasten to

    http://www.serve.com/xywwweb/

and read all about it.  Btw: I'm told there are hints here
about getting a downloadable version of XyWrite/Dos to play
around with, but I can't confirm it.


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 10:42:07
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Paul Coen <[e-mail]>

Winfried Tilanus wrote:
> I agree that WordPerfect 5.1 does all the formatting you need when
> your work is going to be published (and much more than that), and it's
> file format is still one of the best to exchange documents. But I fell
> for the charms of Describe, and I use WP 5.1 nowadays only to check
> the formatting of a text before submitting it.
>

There was a nice Wordperfect 5.1+ version that came out after 6.0
for DOS was released -- it included some extra layout viewing
abilities, used the newer 6.0 printer drivers, and was file
compatible with the WP 6.0 file format. Unfortunatly, few
places using 5.1 were aware it existed.

I still run into a lot of WordPerfect 5.1 stuff. It's amazing
how much of it is still out there.

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From: [e-mail]...               03-Oct-99 14:49:21
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:

>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.

No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
other OSes).

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                                03-Oct-99 14:26:02
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Re: 3COM NIC for cable-internet:  generic equiv?

From: "Michael Duebner" <[e-mail]>

The 3com card works just fine with the OS/2 driver supplied on the CD.  Just
remember to load the NDIS OS/2 drivers and not the LanMAN.OS2.  The NIF is
wrong in the lanman directory while the actual driver files are the same.

Michael


> John W. Hardy wrote in message <[e-mail]>...
>Hello;
>
>I just signed up for cable internet access through MediaOne/AT&T.
>Installers come October 12th. They recommend 3COM 10BaseT. It looks like
>a model #3C905C-TX-M would be 3COM's best 10/100 PCI card (or a
>3C905B-COMBO if I want a BNC connector too). The cheapest I've seen them
>selling for is $43, plus S&H. This is not a whole lot of money, but I
>wonder if there is a generic equivalent.
>
>I'll get one for my NT machine (to satisfy the installers), but will
>want one for my OS/2 machine too, which is where I really want to work
>from anyway.
>
>Free installation (normally $100), $19.95/mo for 3 months, $39.95/mo
>thereafter (if I already have cable-TV). 1.5MB/sec downloads, 300KB/sec
>uploads, 10M website space, 4 e-mail addresses. This is in Evanston, IL.
>
>Guess I'll have to temporarily disconnect and hide all of those cable
>extensions to other TV sets! Thank you.
>
>John


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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 19:44:25
  To: All                                               03-Oct-99 21:38:25
Subj: Download bug in NS4.61?

From: [e-mail] (Ian Johnston)

When downloading large files, NS4.61 appears, on my system, to stop if the
machine "locks up", restarting the download about 10 seconds after I
unlock it. This has happened three times with different downloads from
different sites.

Ian

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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 18:49:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
|Jim Stuyck wrote:
||
|| "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
||
|| > Frank McKenney wrote:
|| > >
|| > > In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
|| > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
|| >
|| > [***SNIP!!!***]
|| >
|| > >
|| > > Well, now that you mention it...
|| > >
|| > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
|| > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
|| > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
|| > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
|| > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).

Oh Yeah! Wasn't that a hoot to see & hear? When the little brushes that
read the carriage control tape would get too dirty... whoosh! If you
didn't have a stacker, the paper would stand up off the top of the
printer and go straight across the room.

I was actually lucky enough to see this happen twice. Thanks for the
memory! :)

|| Sounds like someone forgot to punch a hole in his carriage control
|| tape, or screwed up gluing it together and it came apart!  ;-)
|| (I go waaaay back, too.    Been there, done that.)
||
|| > I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
|| > in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
|| > MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
|| > 1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
|| > at pumping out pages of stuff.
||
|| No 1403-N1 could (or can) hold a candle to, say, an IBM 3800 which is
|| a laser machine that uses cut paper, unlike the fanfold of the 1403.  And
|| the 3800 has been around for a looooong time.
||
|| Where have you been?  ;-)
||
|| Jim Stuyck
|
|Sorry - meant the everyday SOHO laser printers. Mind you, I think the
|3800 was after my experiences with the 1403. I do remember a non-IBM
|printer called a Photon, which used lenses, daisy wheels and toner to
|produce scalable fonts and xerographic printing, and the first
|legitimate laser printers I dealt with were the Imagen and the early
|Xerox products - both of which tended to run at 4 or so ppm if lucky.
|
|But I've seen what you refer to: laser printers that run at a speed that
|to the eye approaches that of a printing press. I have also seen the
|invoice for that type of printer - outta my budget! ;)
|--
|
|============================================================
|To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
|portion of the Reply to: value.
|
|Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
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|to imply the support or involvement of Hormel Foods in conjunction
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From: [e-mail]                                  04-Oct-99 00:41:06
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>

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FINALLY!  After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three years,
and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all that time.

In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?


Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
o                                                 o
o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
o                                                 o
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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 16:54:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>[Posted and mailed]
>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
>
>>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
>> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
>
>No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
>versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
>other OSes).

Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
can use its DOS printer drivers.

Does XYWrite have printer drivers for wheelprinters, or does
it only use the OS/2 graphical drivers?


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 17:02:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <[e-mail]>, Paul Coen <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Winfried Tilanus wrote:

>There was a nice Wordperfect 5.1+ version that came out after 6.0
>for DOS was released -- it included some extra layout viewing
>abilities, used the newer 6.0 printer drivers, and was file
>compatible with the WP 6.0 file format. Unfortunatly, few
>places using 5.1 were aware it existed.
>
>I still run into a lot of WordPerfect 5.1 stuff. It's amazing
>how much of it is still out there.

It's not that I travel in word processing circles, but for
years the only thing I heard about WordPerfect was how the
person had installed v6.0 and run it, and it was so buggy that
they abandoned it and went back to their v5 and earlier.
These were DOS people.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 20:50:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

Do you have the FixPak for ProcessCommander? PC works wonders for my system --
except that it can't do much for Netscape when it hangs while processing the
exitlist.

Alan Beagley


"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> FINALLY!  After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
> FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
> deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three
years,
> and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all that
time.
>
> In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
> Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?
>
> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>
> o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
> o                                                 o
> o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
> o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
> o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
> o                                                 o
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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 17:23:19
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Any Foxbase alike OS/2-alternative?

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


Just realized there is just one reason why
I still have a DOS-box installed. Foxbase is
an easy to use commandline DBF-tool from
the very old days. The days they were not e-
ven owned by M$ yet. Eech ... something in
regular use from a company sold to M$ later ..

Anybody aware of a pure OS/2-alternative?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               03-Oct-99 22:54:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: Where to get the Staroffice for OS2 upgrade from 5.0  to 5.1?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Christian Hennecke <[e-mail]>

Paul Zarembka schrieb:
>
> Where can I get the Staroffice for OS2 upgrade from 5.0 5 to 5.1
> without downloading the whole 5.1 file?  Thanks for any help.  Paul
> Zarembka

I think there is none. You'll have to download the whole stuff or a CD
which is quite cheap BTW.

Christian Hennecke
--
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 01:10:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: What might be next?

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

Aurora was the beta for Warp Server ebusiness, which is now Generally
Available and reports itself as OS/2 Warp 4.5 at about FP10 level.  It
is an expensive product, but it includes LAN Server.  List is $1600.
It is based on the Warp 4 base operating system, but has a new kernel
and some new features including SMP support, a Journalled File System,
Logical Volume Manager.    Check out
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/warp-server/ for specifics.

If you want to acquire it to use for development purposes, it is
included with A DevCon Advanced Subscription ($299/first year) -
http://www.developer.ibm.com/devcon

I am using it as a client (Sans LAN Server, and using the Peer from
Warp 4)  and it is wonderful.  A shame ibm refuses to admit that this
is a great workstation client.

Mark


On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:52:19, Lee Thoresen <[e-mail]>
wrote:

-)I have just done the FP12 to my warp 4.  I am noticing stuff going
-)past refering to Aurora.  I have also seen references to a warp
-)4.5.  Are these things I should be considering to move to next?
-)What are they and where are they to be obtained?
-)
-)Lee


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//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 21:30:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: Sun StarOffice and PGP???

From: "RichS" <[e-mail]>

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Hash: SHA1

On 3 Oct 99 21:04:37 GMT, Martin Schafföner wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:08:50, "RichS" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> I finally got around to installing Sun's StarOffice and liked what I saw. A
>> bit strange to find what I'm looking for, but I think I can get used to
it...
>>
>>
>> But as far as newsgroups and email, there's no support for PGP that I can
>> find. Does anyone out there know differently? Any chance of a rexx hook
like
>> in PMMail (or is that PMINews?)(I'm not a rexx person). If I could get PGP
to
>> work in StarOffice, I might just switch over since Stardock is obviously
>> pulling out of OS/2 (and trying their damndest to kill it on the way) and
who
>> knows if either PMMail or PMINews will continue? (a completely different
>> subject...)
>>
>> Anyway, if I missed something, please let me know. If there's any rexx
gurus
>> out there (Jamie?), maybe they can work some magic....
>>
>> Thanks...
>> Rich...
>>
>>
>I just talked to one of the StarOffice developers this weekend and
>here is what I picked up "by accident":  The hooks are all in there
>and they would work if there was a native PGP interface in os/2.
>There is one on Windows in the winpgp.dll or something like that.
>Now, he said that SUN would not sit down and write this interface,
>which I can understand as it is not their job, but if we could find
>anybody to do it, we would have pgp-enabled staroffice.

That's great news! Thanks... Now if we could find someone to write it? And
would Sun be willing to give up the information needed? Or a StarOffice api
library of sorts... At least there's hope...

Thanks for the info...

Rich...


>
>
>Martin Schaff╣ner
>
>Suzuki GS650G Katana
>OS/2 Warp 4 with FixPak 11
>There are currently 32 processes
>with 125 threads active.
>This machine's uptime 1h 8min 10sec.
>

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
- -----------------------------{worlock@frontiernet/net}-------------------
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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 12:20:13
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: 3COM NIC for cable-internet:  generic equiv?

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

There are cetainly cheaper NICs than 3Coms -- D-Link and LinkSys, for
example --  but I don't know whether their performance is as good.

As for having to remove/hide your cable connections to additional sets: I
thought they were no longer allowed to charge for extra sets. CableVision
(on Long Island, NY) charges extra to *install* outlets in excess of two,
but I am sure there is no extra per-set or per-outlet charge.


"John W. Hardy" wrote:

> Hello;
>
> I just signed up for cable internet access through MediaOne/AT&T.
> Installers come October 12th. They recommend 3COM 10BaseT. It looks like
> a model #3C905C-TX-M would be 3COM's best 10/100 PCI card (or a
> 3C905B-COMBO if I want a BNC connector too). The cheapest I've seen them
> selling for is $43, plus S&H. This is not a whole lot of money, but I
> wonder if there is a generic equivalent.
>
> I'll get one for my NT machine (to satisfy the installers), but will
> want one for my OS/2 machine too, which is where I really want to work
> from anyway.
>
> Free installation (normally $100), $19.95/mo for 3 months, $39.95/mo
> thereafter (if I already have cable-TV). 1.5MB/sec downloads, 300KB/sec
> uploads, 10M website space, 4 e-mail addresses. This is in Evanston, IL.
>
> Guess I'll have to temporarily disconnect and hide all of those cable
> extensions to other TV sets! Thank you.
>
> John


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From: [e-mail]                             03-Oct-99 14:03:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: 3COM NIC for cable-internet: generic equiv?

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

There are cetainly cheaper NICs than 3Coms -- D-Link and LinkSys, for
example --  but I don't know whether their performance is as good.

As for having to remove/hide your cable connections to additional sets:
I
thought they were no longer allowed to charge for extra sets.
CableVision
(on Long Island, NY) charges extra to *install* outlets in excess of
two,
but I am sure there is no extra per-set or per-outlet charge.


"John W. Hardy" wrote:

> Hello;
>
> I just signed up for cable internet access through MediaOne/AT&T.
> Installers come October 12th. They recommend 3COM 10BaseT. It looks
like
> a model #3C905C-TX-M would be 3COM's best 10/100 PCI card (or a
> 3C905B-COMBO if I want a BNC connector too). The cheapest I've seen
them
> selling for is $43, plus S&H. This is not a whole lot of money, but I
> wonder if there is a generic equivalent.
>
> I'll get one for my NT machine (to satisfy the installers), but will
> want one for my OS/2 machine too, which is where I really want to work

> from anyway.
>
> Free installation (normally $100), $19.95/mo for 3 months, $39.95/mo
> thereafter (if I already have cable-TV). 1.5MB/sec downloads,
300KB/sec
> uploads, 10M website space, 4 e-mail addresses. This is in Evanston,
IL.
>
> Guess I'll have to temporarily disconnect and hide all of those cable
> extensions to other TV sets! Thank you.
>
> John



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From: [e-mail]                            03-Oct-99 12:48:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

I discuss this issue on my home page at
http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis.  FP12 is the real answer.

"Walter S. Rue" wrote:
>
> Someone addressed this earlier (before I know I had the problem too),
> but I can't find the post.
>
> In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
> the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
> elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
> mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
> no effect.
>
> But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
> WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
> works!
>
> Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Walter

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                    03-Oct-99 18:48:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Joe Kovacs ([e-mail]) wrote:

: It's not that I travel in word processing circles, but for
: years the only thing I heard about WordPerfect was how the
: person had installed v6.0 and run it, and it was so buggy that
: they abandoned it and went back to their v5 and earlier.
: These were DOS people.

    WordPerfect 6.0a and 6.0b were buggy from what I remember
hearing.  It wasn't until 6.0c did WordPerfect get 6.0 right.  Though,
for anyone still using the 6.x releases of WP for DOS I would probably
recomment getting 6.1 or the latest (probably last) in 6.2.


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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 01:40:16
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:22:42, Martin Nisshagen
<[e-mail]> wrote:

| InDesign (from the same owner of the older PageMaker and FrameMaker
products):
| http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/main.html
| A worthy, if not the only, package to compete with Quark for professional
DTP.

Thanks for the feedback, Martin; I appreciate it. I haven't been able
to lay my hands on InDesign yet.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                      03-Oct-99 21:22:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Esther Schindler [Frontier GlobalCenter Inc.] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:02:05, [e-mail] (John
» Hong) wrote:
»
» | I started off with WordPerfect 5.1 and
» | have been using it ever since.  I'm switching to Describe mainly because
» | it is easier to do basic DTP functions (ie. adding a graphic) under a GUI
» | than it is without.  I really don't like what word processors have become
» | lately.  I mean, if I want to do a webpage, I'd use a HTML editor, not a
» | word processor.  If I wanted to do serious DTP, then I'd get a serious
» | DTP program like PageMaker or Ventura.
»
» Ventura's no longer anywhere on top for real DTP. It's Quark,
» Pagemaker, and arguably Framemaker. (We use Framemaker on the Mac to
» put together _extended attributes_.)

InDesign (from the same owner of the older PageMaker and FrameMaker products):

http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/main.html

A worthy, if not the only, package to compete with Quark for professional DTP.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 01:43:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:49:43,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) wrote:

|     [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
| >     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
| > seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
|
| No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
| versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
| other OSes).

Er, Rod? That's not correct. DeScribe published a Windows version
along with the OS/2 version, at least since the OS/2 2.0 days. (They
had a booth perfectly situated across from the IBM booth at Spring
Comdex 1992, which is when IBM rolled out 2.0... I picked up some sort
of DeScribe demo version at that show, which was my first experience
with it.)

Also, DeScribe's background was as a layout program for newspapers.
(That's why it handled columns so well from the first, but they took
so long to add footnotes.)

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                          03-Oct-99 19:55:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:07
Subj: Re: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: [e-mail] (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Trevor Hemsley
<[e-mail]>],
who wrote in article
<[e-mail]>:
> The CD filesystem does not include support for EA's so they are discarded
> when you write files to a CD (probably not even written at all). The only
> way to get EAs onto a CD that I know of is to zip the files first using an
> EA aware copy of zip and then write the zip file to CD.

I wonder how hard would it be to write a FS *on top of* the CDFS,
which would store EAs of a "filename.ext" in a file "filename.ext. e a ",
and will do the inverse transformation on reading.

It *is* possible to stack one FS on top of another, right?

Ilya

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From: [e-mail]                                03-Oct-99 15:56:12
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]>

I've sent email to Psoft, but thought some help may be found here as well.

I have installed the recent version (4-29-99) of version 1.20, but now I
can't get help.  It states it is unavailable, help creation error.  This
is in e.exe (I copied ee to it to replace the system editor), or ee, or
even eee.

The path is f:\e, and it is in path, dpath, libpath, help, and bookshelf.

Any ideas?

TIA.

--
John M. Price, PhD                                     [e-mail]
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing is true or not, so long
as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your money, as
long as you have got it.
    - Carl Sagan

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From: [e-mail]                                 03-Oct-99 22:31:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: "Kevin George" <[e-mail]>

<[e-mail]> wrote in message news:7t6iog$lgn$[e-mail]...
>
>
> > You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application >
> > that isn't allow the shutdown...
>
> The last version of WatchCat that I used, had a documented problem with
> PS/2 mice.


Cat and mice don't go together.  :)


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From: [e-mail]                                    03-Oct-99 21:20:13
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Tim Martin  <[e-mail]> writes:
> Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest
> FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.

Here it has turned into a nightmare. I got increasingly bizarre error
messages and the system is now totally wedged.

HOW DO I BACK OUT of a fixpack from the text-mode command line accessible
early at boot time? The system won't go any further.

More detailed history and symptoms:

The system started at FP11 and has a new CDRW (SCSI) that replaces a CDROM
(IDE), but that configuration was working for 2 days prior to FP12.

The RSU installation went as far as the reboot. First problem was that it
announced that device VCSHDD.SYS was bad. Pressing "enter" lets the
process continue, and all the other device drivers load, but then the
system comes to a crashing halt (C-A-D does not work) with the message
that:

"The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on line
2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.
Line 2 is ignored.
System stopped..."

Now, the CONFIG.SYS does not contain any such nonsense, its line 2 is the
perfectly normal PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE

I'd rather not have to reinstall everything from the beginning!

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                03-Oct-99 23:57:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: [e-mail]

John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> said:
>I have installed the recent version (4-29-99) of version 1.20, but now I
can't
>get help.  It states it is unavailable, help creation error.  This is in
e.exe
>(I copied ee to it to replace the system editor), or ee, or even eee.

I guess you are syaing you renamed ee.exe to e.exe.  At least part of the
lower
versions use the EEE.HLP file.

>The path is f:\e, and it is in path, dpath, libpath, help, and bookshelf.

>Any ideas?

Do helps derived from HLP files for other programs work?  I'd wonder if the
viewhelp.exe is functional.  Some times it has quit working for me, but I've
never known what made it start working again.

Aside from that I have no clue.  Mine works fine right now on ee.exe.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                 03-Oct-99 23:59:10
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:08
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Peter Moylan) wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>[e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>That's an "Open in Same Window" kind of function and the only place I've
>>>ever seen that behaviour is in Object Desktop's Folder class. You're right,
>>>it *is* very convenient. (Too bad stardock won't fix their program so it
>>>runs right...)
>>
>>Strange, though, there must be some kind of class to allow
>>the "Connections" folder to behave this way, but for the
>>life of me I can't figure what it might be.  I tried copying
>>the folder to another on the desktop, and it ceased to
>>disply that semi-tree view -- strange, no?  As though there
>>were some secret key in there....
>
>The secret key is SHOWALLINTREEVIEW=YES, or something like that.
>I've forgotten the details, but you should check Deja News for
>articles on that irritating hammer-and-screwdriver icon.  Sooner
>or later you'll find a reference to someone's article on how to
>use the hammer and screwdriver to do something useful.
>
>Although I've forgotten how to do it to an existing folder, I can
>tell you how to create a new folder with this property.  Write
>some Rexx code that does something like this:
>
>   rc = SysCreateObject( 'WPFolder','MyNewFolder',
>                     '<WP_DESKTOP>',
>
'ALWAYSSORT=YES;SHOWALLINTREEVIEW=YES;OBJECTID=<new_id>',
>                     'Update')
>
>This should create a new folder on the desktop.  I suppose you
>could then make a template of it to let you create many such
>folders.
>
>Now that I think of it, I didn't do this with Rexx code originally.
>I just made a copy of the Connections folder, removed the contents
>from the copy, and turned it into a template.

You'd forgotten all about this, hadn't you, Peter?  Anyway,
I tried to do what you suggested, this time it worked (dunno
what happened except your magical incantation fixed things I
guess) and now I've got my own "URL Folder" template.  It is
a bit fussy though: for instance it doesn't always seem to
give the plus sign beside subfolders -- but then again, this
might be because my HD is going south (I think I'm going to
call IBM tomorrow morning...)

As long as I'm unearthing old threads and paying respects,
I've got to thank Buddy for pointing me to the newer version
of zip.exe (no wonder Dreckbak never installed for me).  It
does indeed do a nifty job of zipping up Desktop folders,
and now I've got a handy way of transferring these between
my lap- and desk-tops.


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                 03-Oct-99 23:53:03
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs) wrote:

>In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>>[Posted and mailed]
>>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
>>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
>>
>>>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
>>> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
>>
>>No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
>>versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
>>other OSes).
>
>Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
>graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
>Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
>can use its DOS printer drivers.
>
>Does XYWrite have printer drivers for wheelprinters, or does
>it only use the OS/2 graphical drivers?

Gosh, I haven't used one of those in years -- an old Okidata
from about 1986, I think.  But it worked ok, and even if
that's a few versions of Xywrite ago, I'd imagine someone
somewhere has printer drivers for it, if they're not still
bundled with the product.

Things never got to the point between IBM and Xywrite that
Xy used OS/2 subsystem to that degree: it's pure DOS app.
Where the OS/2-i-zation of Xy really took was in redesigning
the way it uses memory, and enforcing CUA compliance: hence,
XyIII was never stable for me under OS/2, but Xy4 has never
failed.


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]...               04-Oct-99 04:32:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <c1.2b8.2SPw4c$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs) writes:
> In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>>[Posted and mailed]
>>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
>>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
>>
>>>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
>>> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
>>
>>No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
>>versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
>>other OSes).
>
> Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
> graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
> Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
> can use its DOS printer drivers.

I've not tried it with a daisy wheel printer (I got rid of mine before I
got OS/2), but DeScribe does have an option to "print using built-in
printer fonts" (or language to that effect).  I'd imagine that would work
with daisy wheel printers.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                               03-Oct-99 21:34:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Tim Martin <[e-mail]>

Pierre Jelenc wrote:

> Tim Martin  <[e-mail]> writes:
> > Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest
> > FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.
>
> Here it has turned into a nightmare. I got increasingly bizarre error
> messages and the system is now totally wedged.
>
> HOW DO I BACK OUT of a fixpack from the text-mode command line accessible
> early at boot time? The system won't go any further.
>
> More detailed history and symptoms:
>
> The system started at FP11 and has a new CDRW (SCSI) that replaces a CDROM
> (IDE), but that configuration was working for 2 days prior to FP12.
>
> The RSU installation went as far as the reboot. First problem was that it
> announced that device VCSHDD.SYS was bad. Pressing "enter" lets the
> process continue, and all the other device drivers load, but then the
> system comes to a crashing halt (C-A-D does not work) with the message
> that:
>
> "The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on line
> 2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.
> Line 2 is ignored.
> System stopped..."
>
> Now, the CONFIG.SYS does not contain any such nonsense, its line 2 is the
> perfectly normal PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
>
> I'd rather not have to reinstall everything from the beginning!
>
> Pierre
> --
> Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
>                                |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
> The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
>    http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

Gosh, Pierre, I dunno.  Trevor Hemsley is an absolute expert
in this area.  I just finished several hours with a Warp City
member who is finally back online.  He had upgraded to FP12
without a problem then tried the beta release of SDD and it
it screwed up video.  He didn't want to but had no other recourse
but to reinstall OS/2 from scratch.

Once reinstalled he tried upgrading to FP12 and hit a trap
error and the system would not go on any further.  He couldn't
back out the FP12 so he reinstalled again and posted in the
setup newsgroup.  There Trevor advised he rem out the sound
card statement and try again.  By then he had contacted me
and I advised he upgrade the sound card driver before upgrading
to FP12 again.  He did that then tried FP12 and it worked.

Before starting that RSU IBM should offer a small Uninstall
program for download 'just in case'.  The WC member was so
frustrated he was ready to throw in the OS/2 towel.

Trevor is here:

[e-mail] or [e-mail]

Tim...


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From: [e-mail]                           03-Oct-99 21:41:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Associate *.doc files with StarOffice?

From: [e-mail]

Hello.

Several of my acquaintances insist on attaching files in Microsloth's Word
97 format. My StarOffice word processor  will read that format oK, but
whenever I click on the attached file to view it, OS/2 starts up e.exe
which does not understand Word 97 format at all.

How do I unassociate *.doc files with e.exe and ensure that when I click
on them, it starts the Star Office word processor instead.

I can't find this in the help files, looking at the associations under
e.exe doesn't seem to help, either.

I'm running a Pentium 120 with OS/2 V 4 FP 11.

Bob.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 00:35:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)
spake unto us, saying:

>Here it has turned into a nightmare. I got increasingly bizarre error
>messages and the system is now totally wedged.
>
>HOW DO I BACK OUT of a fixpack from the text-mode command line accessible
>early at boot time? The system won't go any further.

Sorry, Pierre -- this isn't necessarily directed at you, and I know it
isn't directly helpful.  But why on earth do so many people insist on
applying operating system upgrades without making backups?

The simple answer to your question is "restore your OS/2 boot partition
from backup", and that's all I need to know myself (since I always take
a system snapshot before messing with my OS installations), but in your
case it's gonna be somewhat more involved.  *Sigh*.  :-(  I hate seeing
people nailed by problems which are easily preventable.  :-(

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                ...for they are subtle and quick to anger.

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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 01:09:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Associate *.doc files with StarOffice?

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, [e-mail] spake unto us, saying:

>How do I unassociate *.doc files with e.exe and ensure that when I click
>on them, it starts the Star Office word processor instead.

Rather than attempt to remember how OS/2 associations work <grin>, I'm
just gonna direct you to a nice utility that'll make things easier in
the future:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/system/assoed16.zip

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
             Wisconsin?  Isn't that a suburb of St. Paul...??

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From: [e-mail]                      03-Oct-99 23:22:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: "Nick Danger" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:48:56 +0200 (CDT), Jan Hartman wrote:

> I need to move some files with long filenames from my
> hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.
>
> How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?
>
> Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file
> with the win-version?

RAR (http://www.rarsoft.com) will also do that.


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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 06:28:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: Saving a Word document on peer OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Milind Rao)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:11:25, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:43:26 GMT, Milind Rao wrote:
>
> >I'm pretty sure it's not the cable.  I have seen this problem on a
> >regular LAN.  At the time, I thought maybe it's because it was an NT
> >network and there was some problem with the way I was connecting to
> >it.  But now with just two machines, it is definitely down to some
> >misbehaviour between Peer and Word.  I have no problem saving a file
> >from Netscape on NT to a drive on the OS/2 machine.
>
> Might this all be related to the old "master browser" problem from
> Win95/NT4 days? I don't know if it is but the symptoms are very much
> the same as those produced when someone sets their local machine as the
> "master browser" on a regular LAN.

How can I check for this?  I'm quite green on Windows.

Regards
Milind

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 03:16:19
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Any fix for SLOW communicator 4.61 GA?

From: nobody <[e-mail]>

GA release of Communicator 4.61 is very much slower in displaying fonts
esp. in tables with cell backgrounds. Beta 2 (and every other release)
is much much faster. This is NOT the "Courier New" problem. I tried
changing all my fonts and it doesnt matter.  It is painfully slow in
sites that make use of tables with many cells. I can see each cell being
drawn in 1 by 1, as it sucks the CPU and focus from me and I cant do
anything but wait.

Someone said perhaps it's a matrox problem, so I try GRadd & SDD drivers
and the same performance occurs.

Anyone else see this problem? Anybody know a cause or a fix?  Like I
said the beta's and previous release of Communicator were faster by far,
so I am sure this is some bug introduced after beta 2 and before GA!

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From: [e-mail]                                        04-Oct-99 08:33:01
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Xywrite and OS/2

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps Esther Schindler <[e-mail]> wrote:
: On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:49:38, Daniel Say <[e-mail]> wrote:
: |         and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
: |         sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.

: It is? Cool! I never used XYWrite personally, though I knew a few
: people who swore by it. Years ago, when we still had the computer

    Ah, your co-author on the Describe manual
    Herb Tyson wrote one of the better books, referred
    to as the Tyson Bible, on Xywrite and its clever
    internal toggles and switches and what you can
    do with it besides going faster than a speeding
    bullet, leap tall buildings at a single keystroke,
    etc. ...
: store, I also sold a copy of Nota Bene to a nun who needed to write in
: Greek and Hebrew as well as English.
: |         What's better is that 28 dictionaries / Thesauraus
: |         became available with the new OS/2 version of Netscape
: |         and they work with this word processor XyWrite, and
: |         its sister, NotaBene.
: Other than spell checking, I do most of my dictionary checking online
: these days. IIRC, dictionary.com is the one that'll look up a word in
: several dictionaries at once. Great stuff.
: --Esther
---------
    And thesaurus, or don't you use them?

    The 28 languages have thesaurus, I've been told,
    so you can write in Hungarian and Greek and expand
    the simpler vocabulary that some might have.

    A search of Xywrite will find the dozen web sites
    giving details of tricks and such.

    Holmgren's OS/2 linkage the DOS or Windows version
    work well.

    Notabene has a new deal http://www.notabene.com/xywrite
    for its standalong NBWin (3.1, 9x) and the Scholars
    Workstation.

    XY and NB can do, well before MSWord, spell corrections
    on-the-fly, and because of clever algorithms do a
    search and replace in milliseconds.

    A good tool, but no upgrades for several years.
    There are two mailing lists.

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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 10:38:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Homepage Publisher  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: "C.J." <[e-mail]>

Homepage Publisher
**************************

WYSIWYG Web Page Design Tool
HPP is an integrated WYSIWYG HTML Publisher and
Editor/Browser. HomePage enables you to create or modify any HTML  pages.

Check it out and download the free trial version from:
 http://www.btsoftware.com/os2/hpp.htm


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From: [e-mail]                                   04-Oct-99 02:46:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>


Nick Danger wrote:
>
> On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:48:56 +0200 (CDT), Jan Hartman wrote:
>
> > I need to move some files with long filenames from my
> > hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.
> >
> > How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?
> >
> > Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file
> > with the win-version?
>
> RAR (http://www.rarsoft.com) will also do that.

Yup, it will but zip utils are free more common

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From: [e-mail]                                        04-Oct-99 08:47:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Xywrite and OS/2

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps Joe Kovacs <[e-mail]> wrote:
: In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
:>[Posted and mailed]
:>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
:>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
:>
:>>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
:>> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
:>
:>No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
:>versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
:>other OSes).

: Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
: graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
: Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
: can use its DOS printer drivers.

: Does XYWrite have printer drivers for wheelprinters, or does
: it only use the OS/2 graphical drivers?
: Joe Kovacs
: Guelph Ontario Canada
--------
    It is an DOS or Win Wp, not OS/2 but it can see
    long file names etc.

    Yes there are a half-dozen daisy printer drivers.
    Most can be downloaded from
xywrite version 3 (no longer sold)
http://www.tgrp.com/updates/listfiles.asp?folder=/Utils%26Drive
rs/354prn/

xywrite version 4 (competitive upgrade $100)
http://www.tgrp.com/updates/listfiles.asp?folder=/Utils%26Drive
rs/xy4prn/

Most 3 work on version 4

See also Notabene.com, the sister application.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:54:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:23:45, [e-mail] (mark
davidson) wrote:

> this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first
> fixpack applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were
> not part of fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the
> first device driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my
> system?
>
> again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..
>

I don't know if that is your problem, or not, BUT, I would suggest
installing the DD fix pack anyway. If you just installed FP11, over a
new warp4 install, you will be missing a LOT of driver updates, and I
wouldn't even want to guess what might be missing.

Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:54:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:20:29, [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Thanks.  What is on Software Choice is old.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>

It's NOT OLD, it just doesn't have the latest fixes (which may, or may
not, be a good idea to have).

The JAVA 1.1.8, that is on Software Choice, is the latest OFFICIAL
release. The fixes, update a few problems that have been found in the
official release, and may have introduced new problems, since fixes
don't always get tested as thouroghly as an official release (as I
understand the situation).

Remember the Golden Rule: "Don't fix what ain't broken!", unless you
WANT to break it <g>.

OK, so I do have the fixes <g>, and they do seem to work good, as did
the official release of JAVA 1.1.8.
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:55:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Lost mail and newsgroups

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:26:35, Terry Kayser <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Netscape seems to have fixed itself.  It's now saving my mail in the in box
> folder.  Last night I changed my newsgroup server from news3.ibm.net to
> news1.ibm.net and now it's saving the messages I download.  So everything
> seems to be fixed.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Kayser wrote:
>

Well, since the proper domain (since Oct. 1) is now attglobal.net, you
need to change it again <g>.

Hope this helps...
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:55:04
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 06:22:13, Knud <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Another question:
>
> When I start NS 4.61 ( so did 4.01 also ) it change my background
> colours without restoring them when leaving the prg.
>
> When I start and stop some specific other programs fx. a PM fractal
> which is using a lot of colours and afterwards click a few times and the
> desktop then "my" colours comes back.
>
>
> I thougt I understood this behavior was something with apps using 256
> colours on a setup with 16 colours, but my system is 256 colours !
>
>
> System:
> WARP 3 fixpak 40
> S3 virge DX 4 MB, 1280*1024*256, GRADD 0.88 driver.
> AMD K6-2 350 MHz.
>
> Knud

The "problem" is because of 256 colors, instead of 64K colors (very
similar to the 16 color, 256 color problem).

The "fix", for your problem, is to play with two settings. One in
Netscape: Edit-> Preferences-> OS/2 preferences, and turn on, or off,
OS/2 Pallet Aware. And one in OS/2: System Setup-> System-> 256 Colors
and turn on, or off, Workplace shell pallet aware. By trying various
combinations of these two settings, you should find something that
works reasonably well (it will never be perfect, just better, or the
same, if you have already found the "best" combination). I have found
that both settings being ON, seems to work best for me.

The best "fix" is to get to 64K colors, but that, probably, means
going to 1024x768 resolution (which I wouldn't want to do, so I put up
with the odd colors), or find a way to increase the available video
memory, so it will work at 1280x1024x64K colors.

Hope this helps...
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:55:07
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:51:50, "Dale Curren" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I suspected to get a message telling me that I was not acceptable in the
> world of AT&T but I logged on just like always, picked up and sent email,
> picked up my newsgroups, cruised through a bunch of favorite websites.
> Can it last?
>

A little off topic, but:

YES, until Oct. 1 2000, then you will be in NEVER-NEVER land. Change
all of your e-mail, Netscape, and anything else that might have the
"ibm.net" domain defined, to the "attglobal.net" domain. The sooner
the better, but definitely before Oct.1 2000.

Hope this helps...
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:55:11
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:06:15, [e-mail] (Jan Eri)
wrote:

> Wonder if this is a known problem:
>
> OS/2 Warp 4 freezes sometimes when printing from Lotus WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ.
> This happens with several different FixPack's including the new FP12, and I
> believe it has also happened with two different versions of the laserjet
> driver. When it freezes I can still move the mouse, but otherwise only
> Ctrl-Alt-Del works (Process Commander is no help).
>
> This happens quite often when printing to our networked Laserjet 4050, but
> also when printing to the PMFax (FaxWorks) printer driver.
>
> Anyone else seen this or know a solution?
>
> regards, Jan
>
> ----------------------------------
> Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
> Work: http://www.protector-group.no
> Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/

Sounds more like an IRQ, or DMA conflict. You should make absolutely
sure that you do not have two ISA devices attached to a single IRQ
(even if you do not use one of the devices). For example, you may not
have a printer (physically) attached to your machine, so the person
who installed your Network Interface Card (NIC), decided it was safe
to use IRQ7 for the NIC. This is NOT a good assumption, unless your
machine does not have a parallel port (almost unheard of), or unless
the port has been assigned to a different IRQ (almost never done).

There are many more possible combinations, like a sound card, using
IRQ7, a sound card using IRQ5, with a second parallel port installed
(which should be on IRQ5), an unused USB adapter, with a sound card,
or the NIC attached to the same IRQ, etc. Some machines CAN "share" an
IRQ, to a certain extent (as long as you never try to use both devices
at the same time). Doing so can work for years, without trouble (in
some situations), or, you may not even be able to boot OS/2. In either
case, you WILL get a hang, eventually, by "sharing" an IRQ between two
devices (Microchannel, PCI, and EISA devices CAN "share" IRQs, but not
with ISA devices).

Trying to determine, exactly, what is in your machine, can be a bit
tricky. The RMVIEW command will tell you a lot about what is used, by
a "resource manager aware" driver, but it won't tell you about devices
that do not have a driver loaded, or about devices that have a
non-"resource manager aware" driver (many NICS have non-resource
manager aware drivers).

You may need to get into the machine, to see, exactly, how different
devices are jumpered (they may be configured by a program, or by the
BIOS, if they don't have jumpers). If they are Plug and Pray
(spelling, very much on purpose <g>), you may need to juggle other
device jumpers (etc.), or use other means (like the RESOURCE.SYS
thing) to reserve the resources.

Hope this makes sense, and helps...
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 08:56:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: WinOs/2 Printing now has Blobs

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:23:59, "Eric A. Erickson"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> All of a sudden all my printing for some WinOs/2 Apps now have black blobs
and lines on it.
> I have not made any configuration changes that I'm aware of it, but really
need to get this
> fixed.
>
> Any clues.
>
> BTW, this is using a deskjet 520 and the omni driver.
>
>
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.            - Internet:  [e-mail]
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer     - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today     - Voice/Fax: [phone] <-Newe'
>

Perhaps a silly question, but does this thing work from native OS/2?
or another Op system?  or is the printer broken??? Is the cable
connected properly?

Somehow, this sounds more like a dust ball, floating around in the
area of the print head, than any kind of driver problem. (Yes, I have
seen that <g>. There was a dust ball, caught on the print head, that
ocasionaly got under the ink jet, and picked up ink. Then, it would
drag on the paper, which caused the exact symptoms being described).

However:

I think you will find that WinOS2 uses Win31 drivers to drive your
printer, and really does not use the OMNI driver, at all (Check your
WinOS2 printer settings). It does, however, use the OS/2 print
spooler. Perhaps, that has something to do with your problem. You can
turn that off, and print directly to the printer, by going to System
Setup-> Right mouse click on Spooler-> Disable Spooler (I doubt if
this will affect your problem, but you never know...). Don't forget to
turn the Spooler back on.

If you don't find anything, try removing the printer from WinOS2->
Control Panel-> Printers, and reinstall it from your Win31 printer
driver diskettes (should have come with the printer, or you should be
able to download them from the HP web site -> check the manual for the
site name). You may need to change the Connect setting from LPT1: to
LPT1.OS2:, after you re-install it.

Hope this helps...
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From: [e-mail]                                        04-Oct-99 08:52:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps Raphael Tennenbaum <[e-mail]>
wrote:
: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs) wrote:

:>In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
:>>[Posted and mailed]
:>>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
:>>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:
:>>
:>>>     Out of curiosity, did Describe ever put out a DOS version?  They
:>>> seemed to have covered every major consumer OS with Describe 5.
:>>
:>>No.  It was originally an OS/2-only program.  They added the Windows
:>>versions relatively late in the game, but no DOS versions (or versions for
:>>other OSes).
:>
:>Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
:>graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
:>Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
:>can use its DOS printer drivers.
:>
:>Does XYWrite have printer drivers for wheelprinters, or does
:>it only use the OS/2 graphical drivers?

: Gosh, I haven't used one of those in years -- an old Okidata
: from about 1986, I think.  But it worked ok, and even if
: that's a few versions of Xywrite ago, I'd imagine someone
: somewhere has printer drivers for it, if they're not still
: bundled with the product.

: Things never got to the point between IBM and Xywrite that
: Xy used OS/2 subsystem to that degree: it's pure DOS app.
: Where the OS/2-i-zation of Xy really took was in redesigning
: the way it uses memory, and enforcing CUA compliance: hence,
: XyIII was never stable for me under OS/2, but Xy4 has never
: failed.
: Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
: readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
----------
    Yes it has many DWP drivers, more listed in Xy3
    than in XY4 but they are interchangeable.
    Looking at the drivers you see that you can edit
    them in ASCII files.  I have a Deskjet380 as
    default for OS/2, but use a Panasonic 1010 as
    the printer driver for Xy3 (very stable for me
    under OS/2 ver 3, or Warp 4) and no trouble.
    It just sends the right signals through the cable
    essentially ignoring the default.

                    Daniel Say

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From: [e-mail]                        04-Oct-99 09:14:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: NS4.61 GA Printing Problem

From: [e-mail] (Mike Fry)

I have a problem when printing _any_ page from Communicator on my HP
DeskJet 510. I prefer not to use Printer-Specific format because of the
much greater amount of disk space that this consumes.

Generally, I like to let things accumulate in the printer job queue by
keeping the queue in a 'held' state. With this I can view the spooled
pages using PICVIEW.

I've noticed that with the latest version of NS4.61, that PICVIEW claims
that the spooled files no longer contain valid MetaFile data. Pages
printed in exactly the same way, using the old, trusty NS2.02 are fine.

The OMNI.HP driver says that it is version 30.695.

Is this a problem in NS4.61? I think it must be, since anything else I
print from whatever other application, is fine.

Just a thought in passing, about these failed downloads that people have
been experiencing. I've not been hit by this one very often (the last
time it happened, I was in the middle of a game of BackGammon). In the
past few days, I've been exploring the OS/2 Apache website, and came
across a description of a problem that seems to fit the download
problem.

"If a server closes the input side of the connection while the client
is sending data (or is planning to send data), then the server's TCP
stack will signal an RST (reset) back to the client.  Upon
receipt of the RST, the client will flush its own incoming TCP buffer
back to the un-ACKed packet indicated by the RST packet argument.
If the server has sent a message, usually an error response, to the
client just before the close, and the client receives the RST packet
before its application code has read the error message from its incoming
TCP buffer and before the server has received the ACK sent by the client
upon receipt of that buffer, then the RST will flush the error message
before the client application has a chance to see it. The result is
that the client is left thinking that the connection failed for no
apparent reason."

In this quote (lifted verbatim from the Apache OS/2 documentation), the
client is, of course Communicator, and the last sentence would seem to
fit with what people are reporting about failed downloads. Any thoughts?

Regards,
MIKE FRY
mailto:[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 10:59:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 3 Oct 1999 21:20:26 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

->"The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on line
->2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.

Do you have Process Commander installed? If the answer is yes then you
have to run some obscure PC command to reinstall its hooks (something like
PCINSDLL?). IF you use PC then you should really uninstall it before you
apply the FP then reinstall afterwards.


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From: [e-mail]                       04-Oct-99 10:09:12
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 10:49:05
Subj: Communicator 4.61 newsgroups

From: [e-mail] (Justin Curtner)

Hi there.

    I'm having a problem with Communicator, in it's newsgroup ability.  I can add
news servers, and newsgroups, but after I close Communicator, they're all
gone.  I HAVE managed to get one of them to stay, by selecting it as the
default server, but the others all still disappear after restarting
Communicator.  No newsgroups subscribed to stay at all either, even in my
default news server.  Any idea what's wrong??

Thanks,

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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 16:09:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Richard Steiner <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> Sorry, Pierre -- this isn't necessarily directed at you, and I know it
> isn't directly helpful.  But why on earth do so many people insist on
> applying operating system upgrades without making backups?

Because it was my distinct impression that the upgrade *did* a backup
before anything else! That's what I wanted to back out with, but I can see
no way of doing so without Web access (I did once back out using the rsu
method, but I can't see how to do it without a full graphical system able
to run Netscape.)

I did buy a CDRW to make backups, but I got it only on Friday, and I
haven't yet figured out how to use it.

So now, I reinstalled and applied FP 6, which I have on CD, but I'm stuck,
because Netscape now refuses to run, with a SYS182 error after loading the
plug-ins.

Does the Explorer still work with the latest rsu updates so I can go back
to 11?

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 16:19:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
> On 3 Oct 1999 21:20:26 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:
>
> ->"The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on line
> ->2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.
>
> Do you have Process Commander installed? If the answer is yes then you
> have to run some obscure PC command to reinstall its hooks (something like
> PCINSDLL?). IF you use PC then you should really uninstall it before you
> apply the FP then reinstall afterwards.

No, no PC here. I tried to restore PMMERGE from the previous version, but
then it gave me errors in another DLL; clearly not only PMMERGE but all
the DLLs it calls could have been afflicted.

So I reinstalled, and applied FP6, but Netscape 4.61 refuses to run.
According to the installation notes, FP5 is the minimum required, so 6
should be OK. I do have Java 1.1.8 and I've removed mentions of javaos2
from the various paths.

Pierre

--
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                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                  04-Oct-99 17:28:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:34:14, [e-mail]
(Rod Smith) wrote:

> In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-6TobdERDhfDn@poblano>,
>     [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) writes:
> >
> > According to what they told me explicitly when I complained about the
> > absence of footnote support, "the" programmer had left the company at
short
> > notice, and had not been replaced.
>
> DeScribe 5 certainly does support footnotes.  Earlier versions did not,
> IIRC, though I believe they did support endnotes.

Of course it does. The thread, at that point, was talking about earlier
days.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                           04-Oct-99 12:49:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 16:43:07
Subj: Re: NS4.61 GA Printing Problem

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

It is certainly possible to create metafiles that PICVIEW cannot display.

Do they print?

Mike
IBM

Mike Fry wrote:

>I have a problem when printing _any_ page from Communicator on my HP
>DeskJet 510. I prefer not to use Printer-Specific format because of the
>much greater amount of disk space that this consumes.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 17:51:18
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:31:31, Siobhan Perricone
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> *gazing at both of you with wide, innocent eyes*  But... but... Roland
> says that's not *possible*!  You're just toying with me, aren't you?
>
> *looks hurt*
>
> ;D
>
> --
> Siobhan Perricone
> PC Technician
> Alltel Information Services
> (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)
>

I WARNED you about this guy. Remember??? <g>
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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 19:25:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 4 Oct 1999 14:35:53 GMT, M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn wrote:

->If
->some poster puts a question here and Trevor does not chime in (for reasons
which
->are competely to HIS sole discretion), who on earth is Tim Martin then to
send the or-
->iginal poster to Trevors mailbox. Puting Trevor into the awkward position to
decide to
->push the poster off or to step over the reasons why he choose not to chime
in over here.

Thanks, I _do_ prefer to post my answers to the newsgroups. Partly because
I can then post the one answer once and everyone can read it, partly
because I like the discretion of getting mail in my inbox and knowing that
it's for me. Oh and partly because if I get something wrong then someone
else can jump in and say "did you really mean FORMAT C:?" ;-)


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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 19:26:25
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 4 Oct 1999 16:19:44 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

->No, no PC here. I tried to restore PMMERGE from the previous version, but
->then it gave me errors in another DLL; clearly not only PMMERGE but all
->the DLLs it calls could have been afflicted.

What version of the CSF tool did you use? CSF 1.41 is mandatory for the
most recent FPs and I remember seeing problems like this reported before
on a lower version.


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From: [e-mail]                 04-Oct-99 13:30:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Annie K.) wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:41:12, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>: After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
>:FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
>:deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three
>:years, and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all
:that time.
>
> AHD has worked for me through all the Warp 4 fixpaks. I don't use
>Process Commander, FWIW.

I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)

I'd given up hope, I'm kind of amazed Jaime even tried.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 20:32:24
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: Knud <[e-mail]>

You where right again in 2 ways:
1: It is the 64 problem, I tried 64k colours
2: The palette solution is not nice !

A half a year I bouhgt a new videocard because of that problem now I can
get a new again, one thing is the money for a new card another thing is
the performance will proberly go down !

A little bit irratating when I dont use anything which actualy needs
more than 16 colours.

Thanks anyway Doug

Knud






Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 06:22:13, Knud <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Another question:
> >
> > When I start NS 4.61 ( so did 4.01 also ) it change my background
> > colours without restoring them when leaving the prg.
> >
> > When I start and stop some specific other programs fx. a PM fractal
> > which is using a lot of colours and afterwards click a few times and the
> > desktop then "my" colours comes back.
> >
> >
> > I thougt I understood this behavior was something with apps using 256
> > colours on a setup with 16 colours, but my system is 256 colours !
> >
> >
> > System:
> > WARP 3 fixpak 40
> > S3 virge DX 4 MB, 1280*1024*256, GRADD 0.88 driver.
> > AMD K6-2 350 MHz.
> >
> > Knud
>
> The "problem" is because of 256 colors, instead of 64K colors (very
> similar to the 16 color, 256 color problem).
>
> The "fix", for your problem, is to play with two settings. One in
> Netscape: Edit-> Preferences-> OS/2 preferences, and turn on, or off,
> OS/2 Pallet Aware. And one in OS/2: System Setup-> System-> 256 Colors
> and turn on, or off, Workplace shell pallet aware. By trying various
> combinations of these two settings, you should find something that
> works reasonably well (it will never be perfect, just better, or the
> same, if you have already found the "best" combination). I have found
> that both settings being ON, seems to work best for me.
>
> The best "fix" is to get to 64K colors, but that, probably, means
> going to 1024x768 resolution (which I wouldn't want to do, so I put up
> with the odd colors), or find a way to increase the available video
> memory, so it will work at 1280x1024x64K colors.
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: [e-mail]                    04-Oct-99 19:12:19
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Raphael Tennenbaum ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
: AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
: clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
: to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)

    DUX has some patches for the American Heritage Dictionary on
their website...  Maybe you should give those a try.


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From: [e-mail]                                         04-Oct-99 00:03:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) writes:

> Where are CDwrite and CDTools? Neither Hobbes nor Leo seem to have them.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Sector/5785/cdrecord/cdrecordmain.htm

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 12:41:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <37f82702$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] wrote:
: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> said:
:>I have installed the recent version (4-29-99) of version 1.20, but now I
can't
:>get help.  It states it is unavailable, help creation error.  This is in
e.exe
:>(I copied ee to it to replace the system editor), or ee, or even eee.

: I guess you are syaing you renamed ee.exe to e.exe.  At least part of the
lower
: versions use the EEE.HLP file.

No, I have two copies, actually.  The system editor is now old-e.

:>The path is f:\e, and it is in path, dpath, libpath, help, and bookshelf.

:>Any ideas?

: Do helps derived from HLP files for other programs work?  I'd wonder if the
: viewhelp.exe is functional.  Some times it has quit working for me, but I've
: never known what made it start working again.

: Aside from that I have no clue.  Mine works fine right now on ee.exe.

Thanks for the idea.  All other hlp files work, only eee.hlp does not
work.  Further, eee.hlp from version 1.10 works through viewhelp.exe.

I've let the pillarsoft person know about this.  I'll add that he's been
excellent, working on Sunday evening on this.


--
John M. Price, PhD                                     [e-mail]
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

"If you guys are so evil, why don't you just EAT THIS KITTEN!"
                                           - heard on The Tick

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Oct-99 17:51:16
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Associate *.doc files with StarOffice?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 04:41:03, [e-mail] wrote:

> How do I unassociate *.doc files with e.exe and ensure that when I click
> on them, it starts the Star Office word processor instead.
>

The association is set in the icon that starts up StarOffice. Right
mouse click the icon-> Properties-> Association-> put "*.DOC" (no
quotes) in the New Name box-> Add, then close the notebook. That may
not make that the default association be StarOffice, but you can right
mouse click on the *.DOC file, and select StarOffice from the Open As
menu.

As indicated, in another post, all of this is easily controled by
using Henk Kelder's ASSOEDIT program. Get that, and other very useful
things, from:
http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                        04-Oct-99 19:51:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Xywrite and OS/2

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps Esther Schindler <[e-mail]> wrote:
: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:33:03, Daniel Say <[e-mail]> wrote:
: |     Ah, your co-author on the Describe manual
: |     Herb Tyson wrote one of the better books, referred
: |     to as the Tyson Bible, on Xywrite and its clever
: |     internal toggles and switches and what you can
: |     do with it besides going faster than a speeding
: |     bullet, leap tall buildings at a single keystroke,
: |     etc. ...

: Wow... I haven't heard from or of Herb Tyson in years! I wonder what
: he's up to?

    Go to http://wwww.toward.com/tyson
    and see too much of the Herb

: | : Other than spell checking, I do most of my dictionary checking online
: | : these days. IIRC, dictionary.com is the one that'll look up a word in
: | : several dictionaries at once. Great stuff.

: |     And thesaurus, or don't you use them?

: Not too often... maybe once every couple of weeks.

: --Esther

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From: [e-mail]                         04-Oct-99 19:55:13
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-Hgi9FcrVnIhk@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

> I WARNED you about this guy. Remember??? <g>

I know, I know, but... *sigh*  WHO is a person supposed to trust these
days?  He just seemed so... so... credible.  And he told me you'd say
that.

*snicker*

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                   04-Oct-99 14:14:08
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Electronics CAD

From: James Hannigan <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of a PCAD like electronics cad program for OS/2

TIA,
Jim
--
    James W. Hannigan
    Associate Scientist III
    National Center for Atmospheric Research
    Boulder, CO, USA 80307-3000
    [e-mail]
    303 497 1853  (voice)
    303 497 1492  (fax)

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 21:06:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Staroffice 5.1

From: Jonathan Phillips <[e-mail]>

Why not just purchase the CD.
I did and its much cheaper than the phone bill! Plus you get all the
platforms on One CD.

Jonathan

Paul Zarembka wrote:

> Could someone remind me how to get the Staroffice 5.1 upgrade file
> (not the full file).  Thanks, Paul

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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 20:40:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Electronics CAD

From: [e-mail] (Cheng-Yang Tan)

In message <[e-mail]> - James Hannigan <[e-mail]>Mon,
04 Oct 1999 14:14:16 -0600 writes:
:>
:>Does anyone know of a PCAD like electronics cad program for OS/2
:>
:>TIA,
:>Jim
:>--
:>    James W. Hannigan
:>    Associate Scientist III
:>    National Center for Atmospheric Research
:>    Boulder, CO, USA 80307-3000
:>    [e-mail]
:>    303 497 1853  (voice)
:>    303 497 1492  (fax)


Eagle used to have an OS/2 pcb/schematic capture programme (I, in fact, own a
copy of this)
But they've completely dropped support of it at the beginning of 1998 which
pissed me off
to no end. There is still the hobbyist version on hobbes if that's what you
need.

Cheng-Yang Tan
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 17:28:20
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: [e-mail]

John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> said:

>Thanks for the idea.  All other hlp files work, only eee.hlp does not work.
>Further, eee.hlp from version 1.10 works through viewhelp.exe.

If you haven't alreqdy, try unzipping a new copy of eee.hlp.  It could be
corrupt.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                 04-Oct-99 16:37:23
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
>: AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
>: clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
>: to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)
>
>    DUX has some patches for the American Heritage Dictionary on
>their website...  Maybe you should give those a try.
>

I went through'em all: they worked (if I recall correctly)
for some of the early fixpacks for Warp3 and maybe Warp4 GA,
but no longer after that.  I got ticked off a year ago and
wrote someone at DUX about it, and lo and behold, six months
later he emailed me back, apologizing for not having put up
the info on the website that the s/w might not work.  It's
so dead here, I was astonised that others have got it
working.  Is it functioning for you, too, John?


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                   04-Oct-99 15:51:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Electronics CAD

From: "John W. Hardy" <[e-mail]>

Jim;

There WAS a program called EAGLE that does circuit board design, but I
believe the company, Cadsoft, is no longer updating it in the OS/2
version. There is a Windows version, and may be a Unix version, which
are being updated. Their web address is:

 cadsoftusa.com

They rely on a sub-package by a 3rd party that is not being updated in
the OS/2 version (or something like that), so they can't update Eagle
for OS/2.

If you are looking for a SPICE type of program, I am not aware of any
that are native OS/2.

John

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From: [e-mail]                                     04-Oct-99 07:36:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: Long filenames from hpfs to Win95.

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Chung)

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>In <[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
>   at 09:48 AM, "Jan Hartman" <[e-mail]> said:

>>I need to move some files with long filenames from my
>>hpfs-partition to another computer running Win98 only.

>>How can I do that and preserve the long filenames?

>>Is it possible, for instance, to use zip, and unpack the zip-file with
>>the win-version?

>Not only "should" work - it actually does.  I've done it with no problems.

But you better use InfoZip on the Windows side.  WinZip's zip files
seems to lost their cases in the filenames when unzipped with InfoZip.

______
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> My opinions are my own <                      >  Happy Warp user <
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From: [e-mail]                                        04-Oct-99 22:01:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: Daniel Say <[e-mail]>

Annie K. <[e-mail]> wrote:
: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:41:12, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>
: : After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
: :FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
: :deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three
: :years, and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all
:that time.

:  AHD has worked for me through all the Warp 4 fixpaks. I don't use
: Process Commander, FWIW.
: :In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
: :Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?

:  XFolder.

---------
    PMPatrol does a better job, in my opinion

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 22:07:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 19:53:12
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (James Himmelman)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:37:46, [e-mail]
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

> [e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:
>
> >Raphael Tennenbaum ([e-mail]) wrote:
> >
> >: I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
> >: AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
> >: clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
> >: to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)
> >
> >    DUX has some patches for the American Heritage Dictionary on
> >their website...  Maybe you should give those a try.
> >
>
> I went through'em all: they worked (if I recall correctly)
> for some of the early fixpacks for Warp3 and maybe Warp4 GA,
> but no longer after that.  I got ticked off a year ago and
> wrote someone at DUX about it, and lo and behold, six months
> later he emailed me back, apologizing for not having put up
> the info on the website that the s/w might not work.  It's
> so dead here, I was astonised that others have got it
> working.  Is it functioning for you, too, John?

AHD has continued to work just fine through all fixpacks on this
machine.

[[[ James Himmelman - [e-mail] ]]]

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From: [e-mail]                        04-Oct-99 22:17:29
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: NS4.61 GA Printing Problem

From: [e-mail] (Mike Fry)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:49:35, Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Do they print?
>

Haven't tried. Sort of assumed that because the Metafile was invalid
that it wouldn't print. Must try it and get back to you.

If I recall correctly, I had a similar problem using 4.04. Here, the
fitting of the HTML page to the physical page was totally different to
what I was getting (and am still getting) with 2.02. Perhaps 4.61 will
do the same <g>

Regards,
MIKE FRY
mailto:[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 22:18:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:
>
> Because it was my distinct impression that the upgrade *did* a backup
> before anything else! That's what I wanted to back out with, but I can see
> no way of doing so without Web access (I did once back out using the rsu
> method, but I can't see how to do it without a full graphical system able
> to run Netscape.)
>
> I did buy a CDRW to make backups, but I got it only on Friday, and I
> haven't yet figured out how to use it.
>
> So now, I reinstalled and applied FP 6, which I have on CD, but I'm stuck,
> because Netscape now refuses to run, with a SYS182 error after loading the
> plug-ins.
>
> Does the Explorer still work with the
> latest rsu updates so I can go back to 11?

Am I to understand that you want to go the RSU
route again, now to get from FP6 up to FP 11? If
that is what you want to do (understand you do not
have a backup of the messed up situation before you
re-installed and applied FP6 either - if you have the advi-
ce would be totally different) better use the other way.

But first get your backup CD RW working. If you can
get to a point where you can write files to the RW-disk
get yourself a copy of DreckBak and InfoZip's utilities. So
create a backup first to a free portion of any partition if you
like and write a copy of that with standard copy / xcopy to RW.

Now dowload the FP your are going to apply in *.?dk form,
get yourself FixTool 1.41 and QuickFix. Use that according
to the instructions to apply the fixpack. If you need to back-
out then you simply have the BackOut command of QuickFix
and the standard OS/2 archive to do that for you.

If you have a copy of the mess before you re-installed and
applied FP6 and IF (that is a big if because I don't know as
I never used RSU because I hated the possible dangers you
have now gotten into, there must be others who know if a stan-
dard archive is written by RSU however) RSU creates a standard
archive on your disk before applying the Fixpack, you could try the
BackOut command of QuickFix and Fixtool 1.41 anyway. I am not su-
re it will work (but some of the autors of the parts of QF might lurk here).

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 16:54:06
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Comm 4.61

From: "Keith Marjerison" <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat v3.0
pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61! Thanks in advance.
/>Keith Marjerison
/>[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                          05-Oct-99 07:11:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: [e-mail] (ROBIN HINDE)

[e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:


BD>On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:52:00, [e-mail] (ROBIN HINDE) a ecrit
BD>dans un message:

BD>snip
BD>>
BD>> The curious_eye tutorial
BD>>
BD>> http://www.deakin.edu.au/~agoodman/sci313/dhtml/curious_eye/index.htm
BD>>
BD>> doesn't display: it gets stuck at the "loading page" message, the
BD>> Windows 4.61 displays this page correctly.

BD>The problem at that site (a tutorial, in fact on site design) is stupid
BD>javascript.

>snip<

BD>and since your userAgent isn't an indexOF win, mac, or x11, it decides in
BD>advance it doesn't need to show you anything because you're using a "bad
BD>browser."

So, the author got it all backwards, and didn't even leave a polite
explanation as to why the page doesn't display. Hmm, I've learned a lot
from him already.

Thanks for your help, that is two of the three problems I've had with
Netscape sorted out, the third (tables) remains, and is a problem on
several sites.

---
 * OLX 2.1 TD * ([e-mail]      3:771/1680)


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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 23:21:09
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

I have AHD 1.1.  I forget which fp did it, but it wouldn't start
anymore under Warp4.  I discovered that by putting a copy in my
Startup Folder, minimizing it and leaving run, it works fine.  I
called Dux a while ago and got a message that their voice mailbox was
full.  I sent an email asking where I could buy the update, and they
replied that they were working on a new upgrade.   That was in June
and I have heard nothing since.       It runs fine under Aurora/WSeb
by the way.

Mark

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:37:46, [e-mail]
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

-)[e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:
-)
-)>Raphael Tennenbaum ([e-mail]) wrote:
-)>
-)>: I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
-)>: AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
-)>: clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
-)>: to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)
-)>
-)>    DUX has some patches for the American Heritage Dictionary on
-)>their website...  Maybe you should give those a try.
-)>
-)
-)I went through'em all: they worked (if I recall correctly)
-)for some of the early fixpacks for Warp3 and maybe Warp4 GA,
-)but no longer after that.  I got ticked off a year ago and
-)wrote someone at DUX about it, and lo and behold, six months
-)later he emailed me back, apologizing for not having put up
-)the info on the website that the s/w might not work.  It's
-)so dead here, I was astonised that others have got it
-)working.  Is it functioning for you, too, John?
-)
-)
-)--
-)Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
-)readme@ http://www.ray-field.com


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//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 23:24:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

Don't know about other plugins, since I don't really pay attention,
but Acrobat works fine under 4.61 GA.  What problem are you having?

Mark


On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:54:12, "Keith Marjerison"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

-)Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat
v3.0
-)pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61! Thanks in advance.
-)/>Keith Marjerison
-)/>[e-mail]
-)
-)


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//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 19:32:27
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
> On 4 Oct 1999 16:19:44 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:
>
> ->No, no PC here. I tried to restore PMMERGE from the previous version, but
> ->then it gave me errors in another DLL; clearly not only PMMERGE but all
> ->the DLLs it calls could have been afflicted.
>
> What version of the CSF tool did you use? CSF 1.41 is mandatory for the
> most recent FPs and I remember seeing problems like this reported before
> on a lower version.

The latest from the IBM web site.

And I screwed up again! FP11 which had worked perfectly well before, now
crashed with an exception in device driver ES18691$. Whatever that is.

Pierre


--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 19:37:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> But first get your backup CD RW working. If you can
> get to a point where you can write files to the RW-disk
> get yourself a copy of DreckBak and InfoZip's utilities. So
> create a backup first to a free portion of any partition if you
> like and write a copy of that with standard copy / xcopy to RW.

Problem is how to do that without a browser. This is my first foray with
CDR and without documentation I'm pretty much stuck.

FP11 installation crashed with an exception in device driver ES18691$ even
though it had worked fine before.

Pierre, on the revived 486...
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                     05-Oct-99 00:43:22
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:54:12 -0400 (EDT), Keith Marjerison wrote:

->Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat
v3.0
->pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61!

Works here. Make sure you have nppdfos2.dll in your
\netscape\program\plugins directory.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 17:52:05
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: True Spectra Photo Graphics Pro for OS/2

From: [e-mail] (John Bilbro)

Anyone know how to use CFM Twain with this product? It is set up to
use STI's Twain, but I prefer the other.
Interesting sidenote: I spent three weeks trying to get registered via
Email for this product without success, so I found a posting with the
register code in it and used it. Today when posting a note to True Spectra
on the question of using CFM Twain I got an automated note with the register
code. As they say: Go Figure.
John Bilbro                           Team OS2, NMRA, NRA, AARP
Sheridan, Wyoming                     Lake Havasu City, Arizona
[e-mail]  (May-Oct)        [e-mail] (Nov-Apr)

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From: [e-mail]                     05-Oct-99 01:10:17
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 21:24:10
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 4 Oct 1999 19:32:55 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

->And I screwed up again! FP11 which had worked perfectly well before, now
->crashed with an exception in device driver ES18691$. Whatever that is.

The driver for an ESS 1869 soundcard. Use Alt+F1 to boot up to a command
prompt then use TEDIT to REM out the line that refers to it
(ESS1869.SYS?).


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 12:34:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: XFolder Shutdown ...was Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:41:12, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:

> In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
> Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?

Have you tried XFolder? It's much more than an enhanced shutdown
application though.
Free and very reliable. Last time I looked, it was at:
http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/os2.htm

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: [e-mail]                         04-Oct-99 12:26:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-GphTfyHRRxo1@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

[lotsa great info snipped]

> Hope this helps...

Oh it does!  Thanks SO much.  YOU ROCK! :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                         04-Oct-99 12:31:15
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-zZjDchpBTmdh@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:09:15, [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)
> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I've moved entire OS/2 systems from one hard disk to a new
one
> > by using BA/2 command line-disk driven restore
>
> I have done that a couple of times. Absolutely NO PROBLEMS...

*gazing at both of you with wide, innocent eyes*  But... but... Roland
says that's not *possible*!  You're just toying with me, aren't you?

*looks hurt*

;D

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 13:26:00
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: What might be next?

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]> wrote:

>HOW?  I fooled around with WSeB for a day or so, trying to do exactly
>this.  I got an assortment of reasons why network services wouldn't
>start, but no joy.

I simply installed it and away she went!

I have not yet tried an install on a machine that does not have a
network card - perhaps this is a potential problem?

Craig

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 14:05:07
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: What might be next?

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

When you installed WSeb did you make sure not to install any File &
Print networking?  But I did install TCP/IP.
Other then that I just installed peer off of the Warp 4 CD -
x:\CID\IMG\IBMPEER\PEERMT.EXE


Mark

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:07:24, Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]> wrote:

-)On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 01:10:48 GMT, Mark Dodel wrote:
-)
-)
-)<sniped>
-)
-)>I am using it as a client (Sans LAN Server, and using the Peer from
-)>Warp 4)  and it is wonderful.  A shame ibm refuses to admit that this
-)>is a great workstation client.
-)
-)HOW?  I fooled around with WSeB for a day or so, trying to do exactly
-)this.  I got an assortment of reasons why network services wouldn't
-)start, but no joy.
-)
-)
-)
-)
-)--------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-)       Protect privacy, boycott Intel: http://www.bigbrotherinside.org
-)
-)====================================================================
====
-)Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp
-)
-)        If you're going to do something, do something worth doing.
-)--------------------------------------------------------------------
----
-)
-)
-)


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: [e-mail]                          04-Oct-99 14:05:21
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:41:12, "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]>
wrote:

: After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
:FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
:deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three
:years, and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all
:that time.

 AHD has worked for me through all the Warp 4 fixpaks. I don't use
Process Commander, FWIW.

:In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
:Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?

 XFolder.

--
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 14:36:02
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> FINALLY!  After IBM broke the Dux American Heritage Dictionary way back with
> FP9, it appears to be fixed with FP12!  And the only thing I had to do was
> deinstall Process Commander, which hasn't been updated in nearly three
years,
> and was getting less and less effective as a process killer in all that
time.
>
> In fact, the only thing I was using it for that worked was the Shutdown
> Folder.  Is there a shareware/freeware application that can do that for me?

You may want to look into Control-Alt-Del Commander at BMT. A lot of extra
functionality above what you ask (virtual "desks", hotkey applications starts
etc)
than what you are looking for. But very able at that too, I like it very, very
much.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 14:35:26
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> Tim Martin <[e-mail]> wrote:

[ .. ]

> Gosh, Pierre, I dunno.  Trevor Hemsley is an absolute expert
> in this area.  I just finished several hours with a Warp City
> member who is finally back online.  He had upgraded to FP12
> without a problem then tried the beta release of SDD and it
> it screwed up video.  He didn't want to but had no other recourse
> but to reinstall OS/2 from scratch.
>
> Once reinstalled he tried upgrading to FP12 and hit a trap
> error and the system would not go on any further.  He couldn't
> back out the FP12 so he reinstalled again and posted in the
> setup newsgroup.  There Trevor advised he rem out the sound
> card statement and try again.  By then he had contacted me
> and I advised he upgrade the sound card driver before upgrading
> to FP12 again.  He did that then tried FP12 and it worked.
>
> Before starting that RSU IBM should offer a small Uninstall
> program for download 'just in case'.  The WC member was so
> frustrated he was ready to throw in the OS/2 towel.
>
> Trevor is here:
>
> [e-mail] or [e-mail]

Now this is neat. First starting of (and fully justified that is) telling
someone Trevor is the real expert. Then telling that you have wor-
ked with an WC-member for hours. Trevor did advise him, but your
advise was something else, yours was followed and voila it worked.
Neatly implying that Trevor was wrong without proving it, because his
advice might have worked also. BTW therre is some info on soundcards
and FP12 in the readme. As well as for Pierre about IBMDASD not to be
used from the fixpack if asked. But that is not the point I am writing this.
Af-
ter implying that Trevor was wrong (and obviously not wanting to give help
here to Pierre for that many hours he worked with this WC-mmber) Tim simply
gives Pierre the email-adresses of Trevor. Ever thought of net-etiquette Tim?
If
some poster puts a question here and Trevor does not chime in (for reasons
which
are competely to HIS sole discretion), who on earth is Tim Martin then to send
the or-
iginal poster to Trevors mailbox. Puting Trevor into the awkward position to
decide to
push the poster off or to step over the reasons why he choose not to chime in
over here.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]...               04-Oct-99 15:34:07
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

In article <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-6TobdERDhfDn@poblano>,
    [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) writes:
>
> According to what they told me explicitly when I complained about the
> absence of footnote support, "the" programmer had left the company at short
> notice, and had not been replaced.

DeScribe 5 certainly does support footnotes.  Earlier versions did not,
IIRC, though I believe they did support endnotes.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                               04-Oct-99 15:49:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: Xywrite and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:33:03, Daniel Say <[e-mail]> wrote:
|     Ah, your co-author on the Describe manual
|     Herb Tyson wrote one of the better books, referred
|     to as the Tyson Bible, on Xywrite and its clever
|     internal toggles and switches and what you can
|     do with it besides going faster than a speeding
|     bullet, leap tall buildings at a single keystroke,
|     etc. ...

Wow... I haven't heard from or of Herb Tyson in years! I wonder what
he's up to?

| : Other than spell checking, I do most of my dictionary checking online
| : these days. IIRC, dictionary.com is the one that'll look up a word in
| : several dictionaries at once. Great stuff.

|     And thesaurus, or don't you use them?

Not too often... maybe once every couple of weeks.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 15:52:14
  To: All                                               04-Oct-99 22:07:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]> wrote:

>*gazing at both of you with wide, innocent eyes*  But... but... Roland
>says that's not *possible*!  You're just toying with me, aren't you?
>
>*looks hurt*

This conversation has been going on for years.  I think the answer is
in the hardware.  BA/2 has given me too many problems to use it, but
its hard to go against the masses :)

A lot of folks certainly do seem to be quite happy with this piece of
software and my opinion is that they can't all be wrong.  Try the demo
yourself.  If it works, buy it, if not, you may want to have a look at
something else - I use PC-Bax from Cristie.

Craig

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From: [e-mail]                           04-Oct-99 17:22:09
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Associate *.doc files with StarOffice?

From: [e-mail]

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-TWWsB2CTSwzx@localhost>, on 10/04/99
   at 05:51 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: >The
association is set in the icon that starts up StarOffice. Right  >mouse
click the icon-> Properties-> Association-> put "*.DOC" (no  >quotes) in
the New Name box-> Add, then close the notebook. That may  not >make that
the default association be StarOffice, but you can right mouse >click on
the *.DOC file, and select StarOffice from the Open As  menu.

>As indicated, in another post, all of this is easily controled by  using
>Henk Kelder's ASSOEDIT program. Get that, and other very useful  things,
>from:
>http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html

Thanks, Doug, and Rich too. And Henk, of course.

Bob.

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 20:27:05
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail]

"Keith Marjerison" <[e-mail]> said:

>Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat v3.0
>pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61! Thanks in advance.

I've used Adobe 3.0 in both 4.04 and 4.61.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: rmahoney@_REMOVE_THIS_netusa.net                  05-Oct-99 01:03:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: SmartCache

From: rmahoney@_REMOVE_THIS_netusa.net (Robert Mahoney)

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:01:13, [e-mail] (John
Hong) wrote:

>     Is it possible to have both SmartCache and Internet Junkbuster
> running at the same time for a browser?  There is only room there for one
> http proxy...

  Sure, I have them chained.   Netscape has a localhost proxy to port
8080 which is the Smart Cache port.  In the Smart Cache config file
have a line

#parent proxy (if any). PORT NUMBER IS REQUIRED!
http_proxy 127.0.0.1 8000

  And that will write it to the junkbuster port of 8000.

  I think this line was also needed:

#if you want to use this proxy as forwarder, enter it your primary
#forwarding hostname - NOT URL!
default_forward_for localhost

Bob


Robert Mahoney
2Rud Software and Consulting
http://www.netusa.net/~rmahoney

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 18:33:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <37f91c32$1$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] wrote:
: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> said:

:>Thanks for the idea.  All other hlp files work, only eee.hlp does not work.
:>Further, eee.hlp from version 1.10 works through viewhelp.exe.

: If you haven't alreqdy, try unzipping a new copy of eee.hlp.  It could be
: corrupt.

Yes, it is corrupt.  The program works fine using the old 1.10 help file.

I got the zip file from the pillarsoft site, and it tests OK, so I think
the file itself is corrupt.  I've asked for a new version of EEE.HLP, but
have note received it yet.

Hobbes only has version 1.10 on its site.


--
John M. Price, PhD                                     [e-mail]
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

Silly psychotherapy tricks:

"In this paper I describe an example of projective identification from
work with a six-year-old adopted boy, where I found myself almost
completely unable to function for several sessions. A traumatic past
experience belonging to my patient, which he could have no conscious
knowledge of, (editor's italics) had been pushed out of his
unconscious to lodge in mine; and then, in turn, I acted out a version
of that experience."
    - Robin Balbernie of Severn NHS Trust writing in Clinical Child
       Psychology and Psychiatry, Vol 4, Issue 2, April 1999.

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From: [e-mail]                      05-Oct-99 00:15:21
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <[e-mail]>, "Keith
Marjerison" <[e-mail]> writes:

>Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat v3.0
>pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61!

I don't know about other third-party plug-ins, but the Acrobat/2
plug-in works OK here with v4.04 and v4.61.  IIRC, you need the
v3 plug-in pack to use Win3.x plug-ins with v4.61.

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                                   04-Oct-99 22:10:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Lost mail and newsgroups

From: Terry Kayser <[e-mail]>

Forgot all about that, Thanks

Terry


Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:26:35, Terry Kayser <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Netscape seems to have fixed itself.  It's now saving my mail in the in
box
> > folder.  Last night I changed my newsgroup server from news3.ibm.net to
> > news1.ibm.net and now it's saving the messages I download.  So everything
> > seems to be fixed.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> > Terry Kayser wrote:
> >
>
> Well, since the proper domain (since Oct. 1) is now attglobal.net, you
> need to change it again <g>.
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                 04-Oct-99 22:34:20
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)
spake unto us, saying:

>Richard Steiner <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>> Sorry, Pierre -- this isn't necessarily directed at you, and I know it
>> isn't directly helpful.  But why on earth do so many people insist on
>> applying operating system upgrades without making backups?
>
>Because it was my distinct impression that the upgrade *did* a backup
>before anything else!

Maybe I'm more paranoid than most, but I've seen enough people in your
type of situation over the years (burned by a trusted operating system
upgrade, be it from IBM or otherwise) that I no longer will trust *any*
backup/restoral mechanism that I've not seen already work correctly on
my system.

I generally take a DriveImage snapshot before I do anything major, be
it a FixPak install, a Netscape or StarOffice install, or anything of
that nature.  I've been burned before, but never again -- I want to be
able to get back to a known recovery point.

>I did buy a CDRW to make backups, but I got it only on Friday, and I
>haven't yet figured out how to use it.

That's probably a good longer-term backup solution.

I'd generally recommend using something like DriveImage (or ZIP, or an
equivalent disk-to-disk backup mechanism) and a little bit of dedicated
hard drive space in addition to a CD-RW or tape, tho, for making quick
and dirty backups before an OS installation or whatever.  It takes less
effort, and thus is more likely to be done every time.

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
               .syarthsa htiw loohcS hgiH tsuj si egelloC

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From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net                            05-Oct-99 03:56:27
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci)

With netscape 4.61 for OS2 with FP11 Warp 4, the
browser creates a flurry of prolonged disk activity
with the tool bar showing cleanup of cache files
usually greater than 100 files.

Slows netscape to a crawl.
Any fix?  Cause of problem

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From: [e-mail]                 04-Oct-99 23:39:08
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Keith Marjerison" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat v3.0
>pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61! Thanks in advance.
>/>Keith Marjerison
>/>[e-mail]


I haven't used the Acrobat plug-in for a while, instead I've
been downloading the PDFs and reading them with GhostView,
but in the past I've managed to fix Acrobat problems with a
video reinstall.


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                04-Oct-99 23:09:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Dale Erwin <[e-mail]>

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
>

> ╗
> » Ventura's no longer anywhere on top for real DTP. It's Quark,
> » Pagemaker, and arguably Framemaker. (We use Framemaker on the Mac to
> » put together _extended attributes_.)
>
> InDesign (from the same owner of the older PageMaker and FrameMaker
products):
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/main.html
>
> A worthy, if not the only, package to compete with Quark for professional
DTP.
>
> Best regards,
>
> m a r t i n | n
>
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

Speaking of DTP, has anyone tried MAUL????
--
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Garage/5876/index.html">

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From: [e-mail]                      04-Oct-99 00:24:19
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: HPFS386, The Reality...

From: Glenn Strazds <[e-mail]>


Paul Fedorenko wrote:

> : Installing HPFS386 into a Warp v4 client makes your system FASTER!.  If
> : you think, this hurts IBM, think again.  The reason IBM does'nt include
> : HPFS386 into Warp v4 is because MS charges HUGE royalties for EACH copy
> : of HPFS386!.  Therefore, IBM only includes it with Warp Server.
>
> Ok...  Can someone please, please clarify this for me?  How the heck would
> simply copying HPFS386 to your hard drive do anything for you, unless you
> went and refornatted the drive to use the new file system?  It just sounds
> like a rather silly proposition to me.
>
> So if someone could explain it...
>

I have it installed... It's a dramatic performance improvement... RAM memory
dependent.

No need to reformat the drive(s)

Having a dual boot system using hpfs shared with a hpfs386 system is a
problem...
causes the hpfs OS/2 system to pull a deep six after an hour...

I was also having trouble and not having trouble with partition magic and
HPFS386
fixpack updates in here...

Works great; well worth the acquisition.


> : NOTE: HPFS386 makes sense for a stand-alone OS/2 system!, that's because
> : Partition
> : Magic is not compatible with it....
>
> Now...  This one really amuses me.  If partition magic doesn't recognise
> it, and you decide that you want to resize your partition...  Doesn't
> installing HPFS386 pretty much limit your ability to do this?  Why, unless
> you needed the increased performance, would you cripple your system like
> this?
>

No

It's an improved system...

Why would Microsoft demand apparently $600.00 usd for the licence if it
crippled you system????

Sincerely Glenn Strazds

>
> Paul
>                                            "Andrea Del Sarto"
>                                                         1895
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------
>  : Stop on by the Internet TeleCafe! telnet://telecafe.com:9000 :
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 20:58:14
  To: [e-mail]                    05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
From: jose miranda <[e-mail]>

** Reply to message from "Jan Eri" <[e-mail]> on 2 Oct 1999
09:06:15 GMT

Try going to the printer properties, then output ports, and open properties on
LPT1 and increase its timeout. Sometimes it works

Good luck

Jose


 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
 Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                            04-Oct-99 00:10:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: [e-mail] (Ray Appleby)

I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting
XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find
gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.
Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will
work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the
executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction
(seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the
encapsulated postscript file.)

I can't find any info on how to properly set up ghostscript under
XFree86/XWindows.

If anyone has done this could you please post the procedure or
location and name of a readme file which contains detailed info about
this specific procedure.

I don't just want to run ghostscript, I want it to work in conjuction
with GIMP under XWindows.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Ray Appleby                     [e-mail]
[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 23:11:03
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 04:01:06
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: Paul Lazaga <[e-mail]>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10-5-99, 3:09:56 AM, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote regarding
Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed:


> Martin Nisshagen wrote:
> >

> > »
> > » Ventura's no longer anywhere on top for real DTP. It's Quark,
> > » Pagemaker, and arguably Framemaker. (We use Framemaker on the Mac to
> > » put together _extended attributes_.)
> >
> > InDesign (from the same owner of the older PageMaker and FrameMaker
products):
> >
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/main.html
> >
> > A worthy, if not the only, package to compete with Quark for
professional DTP.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > m a r t i n | n
> >
> > --
> > Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W
E R K :-)
> > CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @
450 MHz
> > d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

> Speaking of DTP, has anyone tried MAUL????
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A
HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Garage/5876/index.html">

I looked at Maul, but only briefly.  I didn't see a file filter to
something that can be used by any printer I know?  So you might be
able to make a pretty document, but couldn't publish it in any
quantity or quality.

--
Paul Lazaga, eMail: [e-mail]
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: [phone], Fax: [phone]
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com



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From: [e-mail]                                    05-Oct-99 02:30:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> The driver for an ESS 1869 soundcard. Use Alt+F1 to boot up to a command
> prompt then use TEDIT to REM out the line that refers to it
> (ESS1869.SYS?).

I had to use the installation floppies to get a command prompt, the system
was crashing before it got to the prompt when coming from the hard disk.

Anyway, I REM'd the two lines with the offending string and the system
boots. How do I get my sound card back? It's a no-name clone without
manual...

Incidentally, I discovered that when booting from floppies the third one
seems "locked" in the drive. If I put another floppy in the drive after I
get the command prompt, a DIR still gives me the beginning of the listing
for the diskette that was removed, not the one in the drive.

Even worse, the TEDIT on diskette 1 "cannot be run in an OS/2 session".
There's something very screwy going on! (The one in \OS2 on the hard drive
worked fine.)

Pierre, still worried, and still without Netscape.
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                          05-Oct-99 09:11:06
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: StarOffice 5.1 shutdowns when displaying reminder

From: Anders Jakobsson <[e-mail]>

I'm using SO5.1 with the scheduler. Everything works fine and the scheduler is
really good. The problem is that when it is reminding me (appointment or
something else) it gets an "unrecoverable error" and shuts down. Is there a
fix for this? or am I the only one?

THANKS!!
Anders

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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b...               05-Oct-99 07:55:16
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: good color printer/driver ?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jens)

Can someone recommend a good color printer/driver combination ?
I am unsatisfied with my HP DJ 660C.

Thanks,
Jens

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From: [e-mail]                               05-Oct-99 03:00:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 05:20:19
Subj: truespectra

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <[e-mail]>

RE: True Spectra Photo Graphics Pro for OS/2
BY: [e-mail]

hi,

what's truespectra?


><[e-mail]>
>Anyone know how to use CFM Twain with this product? It is set up to
>use STI's Twain, but I prefer the other.
>Interesting sidenote: I spent three weeks trying to get registered via
>Email for this product without success, so I found a posting with the
>register code in it and used it. Today when posting a note to True Spectra
>on the question of using CFM Twain I got an automated note with the register
>code. As they say: Go Figure.


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: [e-mail]                                    04-Oct-99 05:49:17
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Re: Associate *.doc files with StarOffice?

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <37f83124$1$efzvgf$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:
>Hello.
>
>Several of my acquaintances insist on attaching files in Microsloth's Word
>97 format. My StarOffice word processor  will read that format oK, but
>whenever I click on the attached file to view it, OS/2 starts up e.exe
>which does not understand Word 97 format at all.
>
>How do I unassociate *.doc files with e.exe and ensure that when I click
>on them, it starts the Star Office word processor instead.
>
>I can't find this in the help files, looking at the associations under
>e.exe doesn't seem to help, either.

E starts up, when there's no association to another app.  Try creating
an association in Star Office and see what happens.  To do this, open
the properties for the SO program object and click on the associations
tab.  Then enter *.doc in the New Name box and click on Add.

--
E-mail [e-mail]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: [e-mail]                               05-Oct-99 09:33:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:

>> But first get your backup CD RW working. If you can
>> get to a point where you can write files to the RW-disk
>> get yourself a copy of DreckBak and InfoZip's utilities. So
>> create a backup first to a free portion of any partition if you
>> like and write a copy of that with standard copy / xcopy to RW.

> Problem is how to do that without a browser. This is my first foray
> with CDR and without documentation I'm pretty much stuck.

I understood from your previous post you had Warp's
WebExplorer working, or else the 486 you are now using.

DreckBak is at: http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/dreckbak.html and QF
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?dir=/pub/os2/system/patches/fixpack

If you cannot get at those (even not by OS/2 standard FTP) let me know if
you need me to mail it to you and where (by email of course <g> never throw
standard email-adresses on Usenet). I suppose you have Infozip's utilities on
disk somwhere. After using Dreckbak (REXX script so Rexx installed is needed)
and InfoZip you will have gigantic ZIP-file containing your partition. If you
can
connect to the CD-Rw in writing mode you can put that one onto the RW-disk.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                                    05-Oct-99 05:49:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 10:27:11
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Keith Marjerison" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Does anyone know which third party pluggins work with v4.61. The Acrobat v3.0
>pluggin won't work with Comm. v4.04 or v4.61! Thanks in advance.

For PDF files, I just point Netscape at the Adobe Acrobat reader.
Works fine.  This can be done in edit>preferences>applications.


--
E-mail [e-mail]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: [e-mail]                      04-Oct-99 22:46:01
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Sander Nyman)

On 10/04/99 at 10:59 AM, "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>
said:

>On 3 Oct 1999 21:20:26 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

>->"The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on
>line ->2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.

>Do you have Process Commander installed? If the answer is yes then you
>have to run some obscure PC command to reinstall its hooks (something
>like PCINSDLL?). IF you use PC then you should really uninstall it before
>you apply the FP then reinstall afterwards.

After applying a FixPak, reboot.  At boot up, press the ALT + F1 keys when
the white OS/2 box in the upper left corner of your screen appears.
Select F2 for a command line.  Go to your x:\PC\BIN directory.  Type,
PCINSDLL.EXE.  That's it, your good to go.

Sander Nyman

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From: [e-mail]                               05-Oct-99 13:40:03
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 11:34:06
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> Here's a trick that MIGHT work in OS/2 (it worked in DOS and
> was mandatory in CP/M) - press CTRL+D when you change the floppy
> disk in the drive.  That MAY force the OS to notice that you've changed
> disks.  Note that even if this works in OS2, it's a kludge and you
> should try to locate and correct the root problem.

Glad you jumped in <g>, as I would have proposed the same (using
a CTRL-key-combo to signal the OS to recognize a diskette-change)
the same. However, from my CP/M days (BTW did Caldere create that
Intel CP/M they talked about on the site last year? Hmm worth a look,
I must have CP/M 2.2 5,25 inch floppies with DBASE III and Wordstar
somewhere in the disk-arcades <g>) I would have remembered CTRL-C.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                    05-Oct-99 15:56:14
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: "Simon Bowring" <[e-mail]>

>I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting
>XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find
>gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.
>Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will
>work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the
>executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction
>(seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the
>encapsulated postscript file.)

Ghostscript isn't a GUI program, and as such will "work under X
windows"!

GhostView is a GUI front-end to gs.exe and an OS/2 Presentation
Manager version is available - this won't work under X.

I imagine (but don't know) that the OS/2 X version is also a
front end for gs.exe.

Regards

Simon Bowring


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From: [e-mail]                             04-Oct-99 05:02:22
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 14:43:29
Subj: Re: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>[e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs) wrote:
>
>>In <b2KJ3.941$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Rod Smith) writes:
>>>[Posted and mailed]
>>>In article <7t6gvd$gmq$[e-mail]>,
>>>    [e-mail] (John Hong) writes:

>>Almost all OS/2 WPs have a graphical output and use the OS/2
>>graphical printer drivers, and can't print with wheelprinters.
>>Almost the only exception I know is WordPerfect/2 v5.2, which
>>can use its DOS printer drivers.
>>
>>Does XYWrite have printer drivers for wheelprinters, or does
>>it only use the OS/2 graphical drivers?
>
>Gosh, I haven't used one of those in years -- an old Okidata
>from about 1986, I think.  But it worked ok, and even if
>that's a few versions of Xywrite ago, I'd imagine someone
>somewhere has printer drivers for it, if they're not still
>bundled with the product.
>
>Things never got to the point between IBM and Xywrite that
>Xy used OS/2 subsystem to that degree: it's pure DOS app.
>Where the OS/2-i-zation of Xy really took was in redesigning
>the way it uses memory, and enforcing CUA compliance: hence,
>XyIII was never stable for me under OS/2, but Xy4 has never
>failed.

My workhorse is a wheelprinter and it always will be for
letters, for the quality of the print.  It's like a Selectric.

Thanks, I'm going to noodle on down and check out Xywrite 4.
I've been using WordPerfect 5.2, but it broke when I installed
Warp 4.



Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                 05-Oct-99 09:41:12
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Sander Nyman) wrote:

>On 10/04/99 at 04:37 PM, [e-mail] (Raphael
>Tennenbaum) said: >[e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:
>>>Raphael Tennenbaum ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>>>: I don't either, but -- I wish you continued good luck with
>>>: AHD.  One day a month or two after FP6 it just decided to
>>>: clear out, and that was that.  (This news is the first thing
>>>: to get me thinking about installing a FP since then.)
>>>
>>>    DUX has some patches for the American Heritage Dictionary on
>>>their website...  Maybe you should give those a try.
>>
>>I went through'em all: they worked (if I recall correctly)
>>for some of the early fixpacks for Warp3 and maybe Warp4 GA, but no
>>longer after that.  I got ticked off a year ago and wrote someone at DUX
>>about it, and lo and behold, six months later he emailed me back,
>>apologizing for not having put up the info on the website that the s/w
>>might not work.  It's so dead here, I was astonised that others have got
>>it
>>working.  Is it functioning for you, too, John?
>
>After having problems with an earlier version, I bought Duxshelf 2.02.
>This consists of the American Heritage Dictionary, and The Concise
>Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia.  After applying the fixes from the DUX
>website, I have used these apps under both Warp 3, and Warp 4, and applied
>several FixPaks without incident.  What version of AHD are you running?

I can't remember offhand -- I've long since deleted it from
my system -- but I downloaded all the patches from the DUX
site as well, so I'm sure I had the latest version.  Spent
the better part of a day or two trying to get it to work,
and then occasionally again after that, so I was pretty
satisfied things were kerflooey.

But I just re-downloaded the patches, and I may take another
whack at it.  This time even if it doesn't work, I'll leave
it on, and then try out FP12 (once I get the new HD from
IBM).

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Oct-99 16:37:06
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:32:48, Knud <[e-mail]> wrote:

> You where right again in 2 ways:
> 1: It is the 64 problem, I tried 64k colours
> 2: The palette solution is not nice !
>
> A half a year I bouhgt a new videocard because of that problem now I can
> get a new again, one thing is the money for a new card another thing is
> the performance will proberly go down !
>
> A little bit irratating when I dont use anything which actualy needs
> more than 16 colours.
>
> Thanks anyway Doug
>
> Knud
>

If your card is that new, check to see if you can just add more memory
to that card. You, probably, have 2 meg now, and you would need 4 meg
to run at 1280x1024x64K. My video is on the mb, and all I can put in
is 2 meg, so I am really stuck (time for a new machine, anyway <g>). I
suggest going with 8 meg, if you can, or if you need a new card, make
sure it can handle, at least, 8 meg of video memory. I don't think you
will see a lot of difference in  machine speed.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Oct-99 16:37:07
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: StarOffice 5.1 shutdowns when displaying reminder

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:11:13, Anders Jakobsson
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I'm using SO5.1 with the scheduler. Everything works fine and the scheduler
is really good. The problem is that when it is reminding me (appointment or
something else) it gets an "unrecoverable error" and shuts down. Is there a
fix for this? or am I the only one?
>
> THANKS!!
> Anders
>

I get that message, if I try to go to the Workplace folder. It lists
almost all of  my directories, then poof, it is gone. I managed to get
around that problem, by quickly closing the whole directory tree, and
never using it again. This doesn't really sound like it is related to
your problem, but it may give you a clue.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Oct-99 16:37:05
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:56:55, jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci) wrote:

> With netscape 4.61 for OS2 with FP11 Warp 4, the
> browser creates a flurry of prolonged disk activity
> with the tool bar showing cleanup of cache files
> usually greater than 100 files.
>
> Slows netscape to a crawl.
> Any fix?  Cause of problem

I set the Netscape disk cache to zero, and use SmartCache with ALL of
my web browsers (Netscape, StarOffice, HotJava etc.). Check out:
http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

Also check out Wget (look for WGET_145.ZIP, in the usual places), and
AWget
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/ind
ex.html (This site may wrap. It should all be on one line). This
combination does a far better job of downloading than Netscape does
(faster, more reliable, and it has a restart that actually works, as
long as the site supports it).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                             05-Oct-99 17:02:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: What might be next?

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

It is the full WSeb.  All 7 CD's are included as part of the July 1999
distribution for Advanced subscription.  The major difference is the
license.  DevCon is by annual subscription, and the right to use the
contents expires with the subscription.  Also the license states that
it can only be used for development purposes.  So if you were planning
to use it as a production business environment you would be in
violation of the license.    It's not for everyone, but it's a great
way to get WSeb at a reasonable cost, at least for a year or two.

Mark

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:46:09, "Dale Curren" <[e-mail]> wrote:

-)On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 01:10:48 GMT, Mark Dodel wrote:
-)
-)>If you want to acquire it to use for development purposes, it is
-)>included with A DevCon Advanced Subscription ($299/first year) -
-)>http://www.developer.ibm.com/devcon
-)
-)Is this a full version of the wseb?  In other words, I can get warp 4.5 for
300
-)dollars?
-)
-)


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: [e-mail]                                05-Oct-99 13:59:08
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (James Knott) said:

>For PDF files, I just point Netscape at the Adobe Acrobat reader.  Works
fine.
>This can be done in edit>preferences>applications.

Some of us can't make head or tails out of helpers and plugins.  I just went
there and read the helps - not much.

Maybe you can tell us just EXACTLY what it takes to "point at" Adobe.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                              05-Oct-99 18:27:07
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: OS/2 and digital cameras that also record sound

From: Stephane Charette <[e-mail]>

I'm looking for OS/2 users who have access to digital
still cameras that can record sound.  For example, I
know the Kodak DC260 and Kodak DC265 have built-in
microphones that record sound.

If you have a digital camera that records sound, can
you e-mail me the brand/make?

I'm also looking for people to test the new WEU (Wave
Extraction Utility) that I released yesterday.  This
tool will extract sound from digital camera images,
and convert -- if necessary -- to a standard WAVE/PCM
format that can be played in OS/2.

More information on WEU is available at:

   http://users.uniserve.ca/~software/weu/index.html

Thanks,

Stephane Charette


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                05-Oct-99 18:44:05
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail]   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37fa3ce2$4$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (James Knott) said:
>
>>For PDF files, I just point Netscape at the Adobe Acrobat reader.  Works
fine.
>>This can be done in edit>preferences>applications.
>
>Some of us can't make head or tails out of helpers and plugins.  I just went
>there and read the helps - not much.
>
>Maybe you can tell us just EXACTLY what it takes to "point at" Adobe.

   All that you have to do is link to an Adobe PDF file, and
after it is downloaded, Netscape will prompt you for an
application, and you can "browse" to the "acroread.exe"
directory.  After this, Netscape will use that application.  I
don't know why, but Adobe used to view inside the Netscape
window, but now it has a separate window, which is actually
preferable for me.

   For a whole load of PDF files, check out:
http://www.asus.com/Products/Motherboard/manual_slot1.html#p3b-1394

baden

[e-mail]
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: [e-mail]                     05-Oct-99 20:03:24
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 16:51:11
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 5 Oct 1999 02:30:35 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

->Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
->>
->> The driver for an ESS 1869 soundcard. Use Alt+F1 to boot up to a command
->> prompt then use TEDIT to REM out the line that refers to it
->> (ESS1869.SYS?).
->
->I had to use the installation floppies to get a command prompt, the system
->was crashing before it got to the prompt when coming from the hard disk.
->
->Anyway, I REM'd the two lines with the offending string and the system
->boots. How do I get my sound card back? It's a no-name clone without
->manual...

You need to get a newer driver for the card. I think all ESS cards suffer
from this problem and it has been reported to them. Application of later
Warp 4 fixpacks breaks the drivers to the extent that they TRAP OS/2.
There are fixed versions of _some_ of the ESS drivers but it's just a
matter of finding the right ones. I'd start at the Device Driver web page
(http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm) and go from
there. If it's the same as the 1688 drivers then there should be a version
marked for Warp 4 and one for Warp 3. The Warp 4 ones don't work but the
Warp 3 ones do (you only need the ESSxxx.SYS file I believe).

->Incidentally, I discovered that when booting from floppies the third one
->seems "locked" in the drive. If I put another floppy in the drive after I
->get the command prompt, a DIR still gives me the beginning of the listing
->for the diskette that was removed, not the one in the drive.

basedev=ibm1s506.add /a:0 /u:0 /CL:NONE turns off change line support for
the driver and may fix broken hardware.

->Even worse, the TEDIT on diskette 1 "cannot be run in an OS/2 session".
->There's something very screwy going on! (The one in \OS2 on the hard drive
->worked fine.)

Use the one on the HD then.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                                    05-Oct-99 20:43:10
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: "Johnny Kitchens" <[e-mail]>

Outstanding Software and Specials At Warpstock '99 Atlanta


Warpstock '99 Atlanta Press Release
October 5, 1999
For Immediate Release

Warpstock is THE place to find the latest OS/2 Software. You'll find both
new and updated software from a large assortment of vendors, and be ready to
buy because you won't believe the "show specials" that will be available for
Warpstock attendees!

For example, Hethmon Brothers will be offering their first class Inet.Mail
Pro 1.5 for $399, a full $100 off the normal retail price! Version 1.3 will
be also available at discounted prices. Inet.Mail Pro for OS/2 is a full
featured SMTP and POP3 server for OS/2.

Sundial Systems, the Warped Jeopardy! sponsor and major OS/2 software house
("Sundial has the Answers"), will show their full product line. Look for
outstanding savings on their Mesa 2 spreadsheet; DBExpert relational
database and application builder; Relish, RelishNet, and RelishWeb, all for
time management; the Clearlook word processor; and Rover Pack desktop
enhancements. Plus, get a sneak preview of a new anti-spam product,
code-named Kiwi.

Perfect Niche Software will offer an incredible discount on SMACK!, the easy
to use label printing program. The retail price of SMACK! is $69.95, but
Warpstock attendees can license SMACK! for only $44.95, a $25.00 savings!

Serenity Systems will be supporting a pavilion where more than a dozen ISVs
will demonstrate their applications on Managed Clients supported by
Serenity's amazing WiseManager system. Serenity will also demonstrate their
new WiseTalker Database Server, and will preview their Building Automation
and Security Software, including the "security camera" application. User and
prospective channel partners can look for some "show specials" as well.

And Theta Band software, with Julien Pierre at the helm, has planned special
discounts on their WarpCharge and MMPack software for Warpstock attendees.
WarpCharge lets your web site take credit card orders online, and MMPack is
a top-of-the-line multimedia package.

You'll also see IBM's latest products including OS/2 Warp Server for
e-business, and Workspace On-Demand. IBM is giving over a dozen
presentations, and it's a perfect opportunity for you to see the future
through IBM's eyes.

JBC Software Development will offer a fantastic 30% discount on their
HomePage Publisher and GpfRexx products. HomePage Publisher is the most
powerful OS/2 web page editor on the market. GpfRexx is a visual application
generator that combines the ease of a WYSIWYG visual programming environment
with the power of Rexx.

Also, Armin Schwarz of the Warped Code Cellar has announced discounted
pricing for his powerful House/2, House/290, and UPS Monitor products. Get
all three programs at Warpstock for only $34.00, and Warp your whole house!
HOUSE/2 is designed for easy operation of X10 home control devices, and UPS
Monitor is a utility program to monitor most American Power Conversion (APC)
Uninterruptible Power Sources (UPS) for power line status.

Aviar will showcase several unique OS/2 products including KidStuff for
OS/2, KidStuff for OS/2 Plus Pack, Oz of Prevention System, and "Object Rexx
by Example". The KidStuff titles are edutainment packages for little
children, while "Object Rexx by Example" is a book which teaches Object
Rexx. The Oz of Prevention System is the world's only OS/2 native
speech-aware Computerized Maintenance Management System for Plant Engineers,
Maintenance Managers, and Operations Personnel.

Uwe Schlenter has made special arrangements to provide drastically reduced
prices on his WarpNote, BioGraph/2, and PM Checksum programs. Plus you can
see Phoenix Software's Think Tool Pro desktop database alternative and
CrossTec's NetOp Remote Control for OS/2 remote control software.

With Software and Specials like these, you know you don't want to miss the
premier OS/2 event of the century, Warpstock '99 Atlanta!

OS/2 users from around the world will meet October 16-17 in Atlanta. Visit
http://www.warpstock.org for the complete information about this very
special OS/2 event.


# # # # #
Press release by Tom Bolick ([e-mail]).


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From: [e-mail]                              05-Oct-99 17:15:13
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: "Sam Brown" <[e-mail]>

shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
hahaha



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From: [e-mail]                       05-Oct-99 20:02:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Y2K problem with OS/2 TCP/IP stacks ?

From: "Sergio Mainetti Jr." <[e-mail]>

  Hello.
  I'm working in a project to look for Y2K problems in an OS/2
TCP/IP stack.

  I'm working with OS/2 version 3.0 and up and using the TCP/IP
stack from Netmanage's PC/TCP (formerly FTP Software's PC/TCP).

  Does anyone know, or have had, any problems with dates with this
environment ?

  Best regards,

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Sergio Mainetti Jr.                                         Visionnaire
[e-mail]                     R. Fernando Amaro, 1139
http://www.visionnaire.com.br                   Curitiba, PR  80050-020
Tel/Fax: [phone]                                       Brasil
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From: [e-mail]                               05-Oct-99 20:37:11
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Maul DTP for OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:09:56, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
| Speaking of DTP, has anyone tried MAUL????

I just downloaded it a couple of days ago. I'm thinking of reviewing
it for extended attributes.

--Esther

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From: [e-mail]                                   05-Oct-99 20:50:28
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: [e-mail] (T. Bartlett)

Once you have an EPS file use Ghostscript/Ghostview to read it, from there
print it as a jpeg, tiff, pcx, bmp whatever. You can select the resolution
when printing, if the drop down box doesn't support a high enough resolution
just type a different value in.

cheers
Ted

:>
:>>I just tried this, and it didn't look too bad:  From Corel Draw,
:>>Select All, then Copy.  From PMView:  Edit|Paste as New.
:>
:>It looked terrible when I tried that.  The text, for example, turned
:>into solid black bars.
:>Is the above _all_ you did?
:>                                            Tarquelne
:>                                       <[e-mail]>
:>        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
:>                                  ************************
:>Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
:>___________________________________________________________
:>"At first I was mad because everyone was drunk. There's a saying--
:>if you're smiling and you're not drunk, you're a foreigner."
:>--Cyndi Lauper on her visit to Russia.





:>
:>




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From: [e-mail]                                  05-Oct-99 17:22:11
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In <7tak30$blb$[e-mail]>, on 10/04/99 at 04:19 PM,
   [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) said:

>Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
>> On 3 Oct 1999 21:20:26 -0400, Pierre Jelenc wrote:
>>
>> ->"The file PMMERGE->PMVIOP.122 specified in the PROTSHELL statement on
line
>> ->2 of the CONFIG.SYS file does not contain a valid program.
>>
>> Do you have Process Commander installed? If the answer is yes then you
>> have to run some obscure PC command to reinstall its hooks (something like
>> PCINSDLL?). IF you use PC then you should really uninstall it before you
>> apply the FP then reinstall afterwards.

No expert here, but I have also seen that message although not in the
installation of a FP. It has invariably (for me) resulted from hardware
problems.  In one case it was a loose edoram chip, which got loosened when
I  banged on the box trying to close it.

Then I later discovered a crimped CDrom cable.  disconnecting that got rid
of a lot of traps.

Have a look around.  The coincidence of changing out the HD is too neat.

--
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51

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From: [e-mail]                             05-Oct-99 16:42:01
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:25
Subj: Re: GIMP, XFree86, GhostScript HELP PLEASE.

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Ray Appleby wrote:
>
> I am trying to open a .EPS file in GIMP.  After getting
> XFree86/XWindows/GIMP setup, the first try said that it couldn't find
> gs.exe (ghostscript) so I installed ghostscript for X11 from Hobbes.
> Didn't work.  I have been advised that ghostscript 5.5 for OS/2 will
> work under XWindows but I'm not convinced of that since the
> executables have different names (I need it to work in conjuction
> (seamlessly) with GIMP which wants to call gs.exe to interpret the
> encapsulated postscript file.)
>
> I can't find any info on how to properly set up ghostscript under
> XFree86/XWindows.

Ghostscript is an interpreter for the PostScript page description
language used by
laser printers.  GSview is a graphical interface for Ghostscript that
runs on Windows, OS/2 and X11.  Info on how to obtain and configure
GSView and Ghostscript under OS/2 (and other platforms) is available at:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/index.html

All of the files and information that you need are available here but
you will have to download and read some READ.ME files to get some of the
info.

>
> If anyone has done this could you please post the procedure or
> location and name of a readme file which contains detailed info about
> this specific procedure.
>
> I don't just want to run ghostscript, I want it to work in conjuction
> with GIMP under XWindows.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ray Appleby                     [e-mail]
> [Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: [e-mail]                               05-Oct-99 19:52:04
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: FP12 repairs the DUX Dictionary!

From: "/2 User" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:12:46 GMT, Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. wrote:

>Yes I do.  The problem I describe has been discussed in the Stardock
>newsgroups, too.  After FP12, Process Commander can no longer hook
>DOSCALL1.DLL.  Since Stardock hasn't issued a fix to that program in almost
>three years it doesn't seem likely they're about to now (then again, who
>knows?).
>
>I've also noticed over the past couple of years that as I apply Fixpacks,
>Warp4 has become more and more stable and less likely to hang.

You do have a point there, maybe we are better off with Warp 4 than we would
be with Warp 5? I leave Warp running 24/7 and hardly ever see the chkdsk
startup unless it is for a power failure. I have no UPS and no type of
process killer, don't need it either.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: [e-mail]                    06-Oct-99 00:04:05
  To: All                                               05-Oct-99 21:22:26
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: [e-mail] (Peter Moylan)

Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I got the code this morning.  The trick is to keep the subject header
>of your code request completely blank contrary to their instructions.
>State the request in the body.  This has been posted in the newsgroup
>before.

This is going to sound like an awfully stupid question, but I'm stumped.

I downloaded and installed the program.  They sent me the registration
key.  What next?  I've read the entire manual, and can't find any
way to apply the registration key to the program.

I see that the URL objects for sample clipart, etc., also don't work,
but I guess that that's normal for a product about to be orphaned.

--
Peter Moylan                                         [e-mail]
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: [e-mail]                      06-Oct-99 00:51:24
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: [e-mail]

In article <7tdplf$6nq$[e-mail]>,
  "Sam Brown" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

They don't?? Then why the hell are we having a user conference in
Atlanta!? :) I hope these plane tickets are refundable!

> maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> hahaha

You're a "Ke\/\/l H@|<3r", aren't you...

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                         06-Oct-99 00:13:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: StarOffice 5.1 doesn't read Ami Pro for OS/2 3.0 files?

From: Paul Zarembka <[e-mail]>

I tried to read an Ami Pro for OS/2 3.0 file in StarOffice (in the
Windows 98 version) and it didn't display the AmiPro file altho it
appeared to be doing a conversion (Office 5.1 claims it reads AmiPro
3.x).  Any ideas what the problem is?  Would I be OK on my OS/2
machine if I installed the OS/2 version of Office 5.1?

Thanks, Paul Zarembka

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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 23:35:28
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/02/99
   at 03:23 PM, "Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]> said:


Run CHKDSK /F:2 a lot.  You have disk corruption going on.

Roland


>Someone addressed this earlier (before I know I had the problem too), but
>I can't find the post.

>In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
>the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
>elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
>mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
>no effect.

>But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
>WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
>works!

>Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?

>Thanks in advance.

>Walter
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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 23:33:17
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/02/99
   at 02:22 PM, [e-mail] said:

>In <37f34fbf$3$obot$[e-mail]>, Bob Germer
><[e-mail]> writes: >On
><37f27ddf$1$jzzbeebj$[e-mail]>, on 09/29/99 at 08:58 PM, >
>[e-mail] said:

Many adaptec controllers require 3 terminators.  Sounds stupid, defies
specification, but gets rid of a lot of problems.  The "errors" are a
signal problem on the cable.

Roland


>>Each Warp machine on the network likewise has a miniwarp and a set of
>>utility disks. So, I only have to do a CLREST for a very small partition
>>(<80 megs) and by having a separate tape, BA/2 doesn't have to spend a lot
>>of time reading several gigs to find the few megs desired. And since the
>>mini warp partition has the catalogs, etc. for the rest of the machine or
>>network I can pick and choose what to restore once the mini-warp partition
>>is up and connected to the network.

>>Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]

>For your further notes if it may help ..

>We just expanded the complete CLREST tape test to a larger SCSI disk box
>with BA/2..

>     1.) Chose a new WD 9.16 LVD disk.

>     2.) Chose a new Adaptec 2940UW Pro.

>     3.) Kept the same FP8 set of modified utility disks that generated
>         the other fully function backup and restore from a plain
>         quiet system network server box.  Of course we shut down
>         not needed apps, but we did not boot from maintenance
>         just to run the backup ...

>     4.) We used the FP8 level FDISK and FORMAT to create a boot partion
>         of 2047MB and others of 2047MB because we still have to provide
>         for DOS apllications which cannot handle the larger sizes.

>     5.) We chunked in the same CLREST disk used on the initial 4GB
>         exact clone into the drive and pressed the button.

>     6.) Back came the full server, expanded, in that the full file
>         set was restored to a larger disk, to the new 9GB drive.


>We discovered that there is a glitch in the WD 9GB drive and the Adaptec
>2940UW Pro setup!  You cannot use the internal SCSI termination on the WD
>drive and card we had without tripping the Adaptec controller sniffer
>warning about unacceptable termination!  I never saw it show as I low
>level prepped and verified the new drive with the <CTRL A> Adaptec tools,
>but it was there when we tried to just run the new system for FDISK and
>FORMAT!   For grins, we went ahead and ran FDISK and FORMAT with the
>error present, and .... went ahead and restored the whole drive from the
>tape with the error noted!

>No problems, it would seem .. ?

>An internal SCSI 68 Pin passive or active plug in cable terminator will
>get rid of the error message, and granted, the hard drive was the only
>device on that cable during all this..  The restore tape was on the end
>of the 50 pin cable, properly terminated of course ..

>I conclude that the termination was really there, otherwise the whole
>operation would likely have failed.  Therefore what is probably wrong is
>that the impedance sniffing routine in the Adaptec utilities is simply
>not able to quite focused on the values that the WD drive presents to it!

>The entire server clone seems to work just fine with the following notes.
>You will have to run CHKDSK on it a couple times from the utility disks
>to get rid of that initial 'error' your see with new drives that 'we are
>fixing a minor disk error' and there is 'lost data' reported, which goes
>away.  However, try as we might, we can't find it. We suspect it may be
>the RAS network log data which we already realize won't be correct,
>things like that.  I'll be glad be corrected if those things make any
>difference anyway during a rebuild; they seem totally fluid and dynamic
>issues on a running system anyway to my thinking..

>In the end of the CHKDSK, there are no files 'found' or left as .CHK
>items for us to see...

>Comments welcome...


>--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 23:30:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/02/99
   at 12:23 PM, [e-mail] (mark davidson) said:

Install only FP5.  Then install Lotus.  Then install FP11.

Roland

>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:35:58, "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>
>wrote:

>> >I'm running Warp4 FP11 and can't seem to install Lotus SmartSuite 1.0.
>> >The error message indicates that I'm not at the appropriate FP level
>> >but at FP 11, that shouldn't be a problem, should it?

>> You must run the install from a CMD.EXE session, NOT 4OS2, or some
>> other replacement shell. LSS/2 install depends or the info returned by
>> "ver /r" command. Most replacement shells don't return the proper
>> response. Most shells, all that's required is to type "CMD [Enter]"
>> then run install.

>thanks for the responses.  indeed, i do run 4os2 but having installed
>smartsuite once before, i had already reverted to a 'cmd.exe' setup  for
>the installation.  ver /r results in The Operating System/2  Version is
>4.00 Revision 9.035.

>this is a recent reinstallation of warp4 and fp11 was the first  fixpack
>applied to the system.  if i recall, the device drivers were  not part of
>fp11 and i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the  first device
>driver fixpack to successfully install smartsuite on my  system?

>again, any thoughts appreciated.  thanks/regards, ..

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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 23:21:16
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: [e-mail]

In <PKFQLTdFdHBD-pn2-nV0IEwj3tLtr@localhost>, on 10/02/99
   at 09:06 AM, [e-mail] (Jan Eri) said:

This is a viscious bug in FP12.

I encountered it in a notebook.  Found only 2 work arounds.

Here is the gist of the problem:  In true Stardock fashion IBM ignored the
current settings of the PP (controlled by system BIOS) and querried for
the highest possible settings.  It then used the highest possible settings
rather than the "current" setting.

You can take the long way or the short way to fix this.

Long way:
Add /IRQ to PRINT01.SYS
When printing in WordPro, select your printer, then click on print to
file. Once printing to file is done, open command window and type COPY
MYFILE.TXT LPT1: I said it was the long way.

Short way:
Force your LPT port to its highest setting in your system BIOS. Power
everything (including your printer) off, then reboot all. Be sure you DO
NOT have the /IRQ switch on PRINT01.SYS.
If your printer and cable are capable of working at those speeds you
should work as before.

Really Really Long way:
Find an old 5 user copy of Netware 3.12.
Setup a server with a junk 386.
Hook all your printers to it and install the Netware client on OS/2 Warp.
You will never have a spooler problem again.

Roland

>Wonder if this is a known problem:

>OS/2 Warp 4 freezes sometimes when printing from Lotus WordPro 1.1 to
>HPLJ.  This happens with several different FixPack's including the new
>FP12, and I  believe it has also happened with two different versions of
>the laserjet  driver. When it freezes I can still move the mouse, but
>otherwise only  Ctrl-Alt-Del works (Process Commander is no help).

>This happens quite often when printing to our networked Laserjet 4050,
>but  also when printing to the PMFax (FaxWorks) printer driver.

>Anyone else seen this or know a solution?

>regards, Jan

>----------------------------------
>Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
>Work: http://www.protector-group.no
>Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/
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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 23:17:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
   at 04:51 PM, "Dale Curren" <[e-mail]> said:

>I suspected to get a message telling me that I was not acceptable in the
>world of AT&T but I logged on just like always, picked up and sent email,
> picked up my newsgroups, cruised through a bunch of favorite websites.
>Can it last?

No.  It will continue to "work" until some time in the year 2000.  They
sent an email out about it.  Personally, I'm getting a DSL line installed.
I will not do business with AT&T internet services.  Am seriously
considering dumping OS/2 now that IBM stooped so low as to toss those of
us who used their internet service because we used their OS to the wolves.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 21:56:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: RSU of FP12 gives Error 11

From: [e-mail]

In <7t2iob$j4m$[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
   at 10:09 AM, Dick Kurtz <[e-mail]> said:


I actually saw that once.  Can't remember exact cause. oh!  You have a
corrupted file (i.e. zero length) in either your archive or backup
directory.  The simple solution is to blow away both directories and
proceed forward.

Be sure to blow away all subdirectories under $rsutmp$ (not the zip files,
etc. just the subdirectories).  I also seem to remember there were a few
files tagged that could not be overwritten.

Be sure bus mastering is turned off on 506 driver.

Roland

>Ref:     Append at 19:50:48 on 99/10/01 -0800 (by [e-mail])

>I suspect this has something to do with JFS though I'm not sure. In any
>case, FP12 does not apply to WSeB so it would be a waste of time to
>download it. If I ever get access to a WSeB system running JFS I'll see
>if I can debug the RSUINST problem. Tried it on a WSeB system running
>HOFS386 and it worked okay.

>> I decided to update my WsEB system with FP12.  I downloaded the RSUINITn
>> files, updated them where it said, and started the RSU update.
>>
>> Almost immediately, I get an error 11 as soon as I've selected the drive
>> and it starts to download.
>>
>> I looked in the docs, and there is no reference of error 11.  Can
>> someone point me in a direction that can answer what I'm doing wrong?

>Dick Kurtz
>eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.
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From: [e-mail]                     04-Oct-99 21:51:25
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <7t28a1$q14$[e-mail]>, on 10/01/99
   at 12:09 PM, Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]> said:

>Your objections have been noted and given the consideration they deserve,
>taking into account the language and detail level provided.

>Thank you for taking time to answer my question and I do appreciate the
>one piece of information you gave that wasn't drenched in puerile
>whinging.

Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before posting
a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has been posted
multiple times.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                              05-Oct-99 17:44:12
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Maul DTP for OS/2

From: "Robert Gehrig" <[e-mail]>

On 5 Oct 1999 20:37:22 GMT, Esther Schindler wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:09:56, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>| Speaking of DTP, has anyone tried MAUL????
>
>I just downloaded it a couple of days ago. I'm thinking of reviewing
>it for extended attributes.
>
>--Esther
I have downloaded it, but I am having a problem bringing it up for a second
time, and with printing.

I have to send a e-mail to the developer.

Have not had time to get to explore it yet.




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From: [e-mail]                            06-Oct-99 00:45:12
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: CORELscsi v 2.0

From: [e-mail]

In desperate need of this if any one has it please contact me ASAP

Mark Kopenski
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]@Vi...               06-Oct-99 00:53:05
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

Message sender: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca

From: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:04:11, [e-mail] (Peter
Moylan) a écrit:

> This is going to sound like an awfully stupid question, but I'm stumped.
>
> I downloaded and installed the program.  They sent me the registration
> key.  What next?  I've read the entire manual, and can't find any
> way to apply the registration key to the program.

    Right-click (or press F12) on the drawing area.  Choose "Unlock now".
 Good luck.

Salut,

    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
    ICQ #13376913
    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: [e-mail]                     06-Oct-99 02:57:26
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: [e-mail]

Sam Brown writes:

> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

Why are you using question marks at the end of a declarative sentence?

By the way, somebody does use OS/2.  Looks like the readers here are
not the ones who need to wake up.

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From: [e-mail]                                 05-Oct-99 22:36:10
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.beta, "Sam Brown" <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

Welcome to the real world, my son.  :-)

--
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     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                           Doo dee doo dee...

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From: DAMNSPAMMERS![e-mail]                     06-Oct-99 02:40:22
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:25
Subj: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: DAMNSPAMMERS![e-mail] (Kari Suomela)

Tuesday October 05 1999 17:15, Sam Brown wrote to All:

 SB> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??

Except people who know how to capitalize, use proper language and know
what they're doing! :)

 KS


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From: [e-mail]                                     05-Oct-99 22:36:20
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Re: Y2K problem with OS/2 TCP/IP stacks ?

From: Joseph <[e-mail]>

I don't have a good answer.

I knew Netmanage engineers and don't recall them making or reselling a
TCP/IP stack for OS/2 -- I would have gotten one instead of buying Warp 3.0
Connect.  I assume you are using their DOS TCP/IP stack in an OS/2 DOS VM.
I would seek help on the TCP/IP stack from Netmange (not sure how they have
faired in the past few years given they were basically sellling a TCP/IP
stack and tool sfor Windows3.1).

IBM's TCP/IP stack is documented on thier Y2K site.  It's found with a
search on the main IBM web site.  If you are running WARP Connect then
there is a possibility of using a Y2K compliant OS/2 TCP/IP stack in a DOS
or Windows VM.  I have found help at Judy's Warped World.

She has links to getting OS/2 and TCP/IP running in DOS and iwndows
sessions.
http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/


"Sergio Mainetti Jr." wrote:

>   Hello.
>   I'm working in a project to look for Y2K problems in an OS/2
> TCP/IP stack.
>
>   I'm working with OS/2 version 3.0 and up and using the TCP/IP
> stack from Netmanage's PC/TCP (formerly FTP Software's PC/TCP).
>
>   Does anyone know, or have had, any problems with dates with this
> environment ?
>
>   Best regards,
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sergio Mainetti Jr.                                         Visionnaire
> [e-mail]                     R. Fernando Amaro, 1139
> http://www.visionnaire.com.br                   Curitiba, PR  80050-020
> Tel/Fax: [phone]                                       Brasil
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From: [e-mail]                             06-Oct-99 06:55:27
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: Knud <[e-mail]>

Hi Doug

I have switch to 64k colours ( have 4 MB on the board ) and it seems not
to be significant slower so I will run with that for while.

Knud


Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:32:48, Knud <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > You where right again in 2 ways:
> > 1: It is the 64 problem, I tried 64k colours
> > 2: The palette solution is not nice !
> >
> > A half a year I bouhgt a new videocard because of that problem now I can
> > get a new again, one thing is the money for a new card another thing is
> > the performance will proberly go down !
> >
> > A little bit irratating when I dont use anything which actualy needs
> > more than 16 colours.
> >
> > Thanks anyway Doug
> >
> > Knud
> >
>
> If your card is that new, check to see if you can just add more memory
> to that card. You, probably, have 2 meg now, and you would need 4 meg
> to run at 1280x1024x64K. My video is on the mb, and all I can put in
> is 2 meg, so I am really stuck (time for a new machine, anyway <g>). I
> suggest going with 8 meg, if you can, or if you need a new card, make
> sure it can handle, at least, 8 meg of video memory. I don't think you
> will see a lot of difference in  machine speed.
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                      06-Oct-99 00:14:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Netscape 4.6 crashes on pageup if Java loaded?

From: Steve Yates <[e-mail]>

    I have noticed an annoying tendecy for Netscape 4.61 to crash when I'm
scrolling in a page, for example on the sites:

www.quicken.com/investments/markets/
www.quicken.com/investments/portfolio/

(if you don't have a portfolio defined I don't know what the second one
looks like).  It's a hard crash, where the mouse stops moving and the
keyboard is unresponsive.  I must reset or power off.  I suspect the
problem might be more common when the applet is paged off the screen,
and so far only seems to happen when scrolling up, although that might
be a side effect since that's when it scrolls off the screen on these
sites.

Another site I know is fantasyfootball.yahoo.com/football, when you're
using the Java applet to edit player rankings.  However, you have to get
into a league and have players to do this.

    I'm using Java 1.1.8, and had no problems with Netscape 4.04.  Does
anyone else have this problem or am I alone?  :)

--

Steve

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From: [e-mail]                            06-Oct-99 05:17:22
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 03:33:26
Subj: Cookie Monstor revisited in NS 4.61

From: [e-mail]

FWIW, I've been examining what happens with the cookie monster with
Internet Junk Buster agoing through the port..  In theory, it is told
that a couple of sites are trusted sites.  So far so good.

These sites are sites which use the wafers to set message water marks in
an internet BBS .. simple things, one would seem.  Anyway ..

To watch what really happens, I call NS 4.61 out of a batch file.  The
file is useful in a couple of ways.  First it whams the NISTIME source
and syncronizes the clock .. Then it calls NS..  On exit, I ask an
editor to take a look at the cookie file.

It's rocked along as entrusted for a long time now, until tonight!

Surprise!  Search.com is not a trusted site.  However, the drill down
operations in Search.com for multiple NS sessions thwarted the IJB
setup.  They left new tidbits in the cookie..  The little sub-window
second instance of Netscape 4.61 apparently set three new cookie lines
without getting trapped by IJB.. ?

I'd like some insight into why .. and what I am doing wrong with IJB
that got circumvented .. if anyone can help educate me...

Of course I can say no wafers..  but that's a pain re-entering things
back an forth on the couple of BBS operations I frequent this way...  I
could write a routine that truncates the file to the intended lines, but
gee ...

Suggestions?


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                       06-Oct-99 13:30:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:26
Subj: Re: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on
10/05/99
   at 03:56 AM, jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci) said:

>With netscape 4.61 for OS2 with FP11 Warp 4, the
>browser creates a flurry of prolonged disk activity
>with the tool bar showing cleanup of cache files
>usually greater than 100 files.

>Slows netscape to a crawl.
>Any fix?  Cause of problem

This was driving me nuts too; what worked for me was setting the Netscape
disk cache to 0 and upping the memory cache size to 2MB.  (FWIW, I have
64MB of RAM in this machine).  This got rid of the delays during
(frequent!) cache cleanup and made browsing non-infuriating <g>.

I guess I lose the persistence of the cache between Netscape invocations,
but it's made no noticable difference to me on an ISDN line and with my
particular browing patterns.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bill Hinkle  <[e-mail]>
-----------------------------------------------------------


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From: [e-mail]                         06-Oct-99 13:58:28
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <37f95a25$2$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news-
s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
  [e-mail] wrote:

> >Your objections have been noted and given the consideration they
deserve,
> >taking into account the language and detail level provided.
>
> >Thank you for taking time to answer my question and I do appreciate
the
> >one piece of information you gave that wasn't drenched in puerile
> >whinging.
>
> Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
> complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
> weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before
posting
> a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has been posted
> multiple times.

Awww, I expected better.  I *did* read the particular thread to which
you allude.  I *did* do research on the subject, and I do recall people
discussing methods for backing up everything.

If you'd bother to read my original note, you'll see that I mentioned
it.  I also mentioned that, after having done some searching, I was
having a hard time finding the specific posts in question, seeing as
the threads in question were very long and full of a lot of different
topics.

I wasn't looking for a philosophical debate, I was looking for a short,
sweet explanation of the specific method I should use because the
threads I researched didn't offer me that.  Fortnately the others
around here who are actually interested in providing ASSISTANCE
understood my dilemma without my having to spell it out in excruciating
detail as I did above, so I got the help I needed, and then some.

So bugger off you bitter, whiny, little man.

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                    06-Oct-99 17:02:01
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 newsgroups

From: Michael Kessler <[e-mail]>

Happend here too after copying some folders/files from one profile to
another. i had to create a completely new Profile with profile-manager
and add the newsgroups again. This works now.

Jeff Smick schrieb:
>
> On 4 Oct 1999 10:09:24 GMT, Justin Curtner wrote:
>
> :>Hi there.
> :>
> :>      I'm having a problem with Communicator, in it's newsgroup ability.
I can add
> :>news servers, and newsgroups, but after I close Communicator, they're all
> :>gone.  I HAVE managed to get one of them to stay, by selecting it as the
> :>default server, but the others all still disappear after restarting
> :>Communicator.  No newsgroups subscribed to stay at all either, even in my
> :>default news server.  Any idea what's wrong??
> :>
> :>Thanks,
> :>
> Same here. Best bet is to not rely on Communicator for your news I guess.

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From: [e-mail]                                         05-Oct-99 18:50:25
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci) writes:

> With netscape 4.61 for OS2 with FP11 Warp 4, the
> browser creates a flurry of prolonged disk activity
> with the tool bar showing cleanup of cache files
> usually greater than 100 files.
>
> Slows netscape to a crawl.
> Any fix?  Cause of problem

Disable disk cache in Netscape and use a separate program, like
SmartCache.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                         05-Oct-99 18:54:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: SmartCache

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

rmahoney@_REMOVE_THIS_netusa.net (Robert Mahoney) writes:

> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:01:13, [e-mail] (John
> Hong) wrote:
>
> >     Is it possible to have both SmartCache and Internet Junkbuster
> > running at the same time for a browser?  There is only room there for one
> > http proxy...
>
>   Sure, I have them chained.   Netscape has a localhost proxy to port
> 8080 which is the Smart Cache port.  In the Smart Cache config file
> have a line...

But what's the point? I haven't used Junkbuster any more after
starting Smart Cache. Smart Cache seems to block what I want it to
block pretty good.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                         06-Oct-99 15:05:10
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <37f95a25$2$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news-
s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
  [e-mail] wrote:

> Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
> complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
> weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before
> posting a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has
> been posted multiple times.

I'm not going to cancel my previous, ill-tempered, response, but I am
going to comment further, and hopefully in a less peevish vein.

Roland, you quite probably have a lot of useful information to offer.
You were even somewhat helpful to me in this thread.  The problem is
that you have such an unreasoning anger burning inside you that you
can't seem to convey that information without surrounding it in highly
emotional, and completely irrelevant, ranting.  As a result, anything
useful you might have to say gets lost or ignored.

Now, I'm not suggesting that you don't have a reason for being angry,
but that your anger has made it so *you* are no longer rational about
this issue.  You lash out wildly and angrily at any mention of BA/2 and
few people seem to pay any attention to you.  Any sensible points you
might make, and any legitimate concerns you might have, get totally
lost because it's nearly impossible to separate what is valid from what
is irrational.

From what I've read before, it sounds to me like you had a quite
harrowing experience with BA/2.  Certainly such an experience would
turn me quite against a software package.  But it seems to me that the
problems you've had with BA/2 are looming larger in your life (on these
newsgroups, not in general) than they warrant.  People can't benefit
from your experiences if you can't convey them in a way to which
they'll listen.  And not many people are listening to you.

Consider what your goal here is.  If all you want is to spew emotional
whinges about BA/2 and you don't care if anyone listens, then your
strategy is working, and by all means, continue.  But if, on the other
hand, you are trying to influence people (or at least help them to
benefit from your experiences), your strategy is failing, and you lose
your audience every time.

I'm offering these observations as someone who only knows you from what
she's read in the archives and recent weeks on these newsgroups.  I
don't assume that you sit around by your computer fuming with hatred at
BA/2 24/7.  And I'm simply trying to take a tack that is different from
my previous two responses to you, which were, admittedly, heated
responses I sent out because your posts rubbed me totally the wrong way.

I'm better than that, and I'd like to give you the benefit of the
doubt.  I hope you find a strategy that suits your goals, whatever
those are.

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 08:49:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 14:39:27
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: Chuck Davis <[e-mail]>

Think about this:

IBM cannot make money selling OS/2 because of the stupid licensing
agreement they made with MS in the pre-Gerstner days.  By modifying OS/2
to a Java based system and selling improvements without updating the
basic product, they can circumnavigate the license with MS and start
generating a revenue stream from this product, thus justifying
developmental  improvements.

To this point Software Choice has had only one product that was remotely
interesting -- tcp/ip 4.1.  Certainly not anything a home user would
have a burning desire to obtain.  If, however, IBM starts to generate a
revenue stream from OS/2 by outsmarting MS and modifying the interface
to Java, who knows what we'll see appearing on Software Choice?  It
could get very interesting because IBM is doing a LOT with Java.

Their decision is going to be very expensive for me personally.  I run
two OS/2 networks, one at home and one at work.  Additionally, I have
three  clients on the two networks which are used almost exclusively for
testing purposes.  That's a LOT of money to keep them all going just for
the fun of it!  So, I have to make a decision what I will keep current
and what I will not.

If we want OS/2 to remain viable we have to give IBM some money that
they don't have to pass along to MS.  We can do that through Software
Choice.

dinkmeister wrote:

> If the news about Software Choice going pay-only
> on Jan, 2000 pisses you off, e-mail your comments
> to IBM / Software Choice admin at:
> [e-mail]
>
> Why should we have to pay for browser and Java
> updates when Windows/Linux users get them free?
>
> - dink ( http://dink.org )

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From: [e-mail]                                06-Oct-99 12:49:28
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 16:31:22
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

> >
> > shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
> >
> > maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> > hahaha
> >
>
> Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you
> belong.

Seconded!

Who are all these "nobodies" talking in this news group (with one
exception)?

Ron

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:08
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 16:31:22
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:59:17, [e-mail] wrote:

> [e-mail] (James Knott) said:
>
> >For PDF files, I just point Netscape at the Adobe Acrobat reader.  Works
fine.
> >This can be done in edit>preferences>applications.
>
> Some of us can't make head or tails out of helpers and plugins.  I just went
> there and read the helps - not much.
>
> Maybe you can tell us just EXACTLY what it takes to "point at" Adobe.
>
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>

In my case, NC4.61 picked it up from 4.04, without any further action
on my part. However, when I first installed NC4.04, it did not get
installed automatically. All I did was take the file nppdfos2.dll,
from the Acrobat\ReadOS2 directory, and put it into the
Netscape\Program\Plugins directory. NC picked it up, and uses it just
fine.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:09
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:16
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:15:26, "Sam Brown" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
>
> maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> hahaha
>

Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you
belong.

OS/2 is alive, well, AND, it still outperforms any Windows version.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                            06-Oct-99 14:29:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:16
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: RickH <[e-mail]>

That would be us nobodies over here in ATL.FORSALE Which brings another
question to mind. Why post that in a forsale group anyways?


Ron Vopicka wrote:

> > >
> > > shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
> > >
> > > maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
> > > hahaha
> > >
> >
> > Wake up yourself, and go back to the Windows news groups, where you
> > belong.
>
> Seconded!
>
> Who are all these "nobodies" talking in this news group (with one
> exception)?
>
> Ron

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From: [e-mail]                         06-Oct-99 16:10:25
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:16
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Bill" <[e-mail]>

On 3 Oct 1999 18:49:50 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>|Jim Stuyck wrote:
>||
>|| "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
>||
>|| > Frank McKenney wrote:
>|| > >
>|| > > In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>|| > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
>|| >
>|| > [***SNIP!!!***]
>|| >
>|| > >
>|| > > Well, now that you mention it...
>|| > >
>|| > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
>|| > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
>|| > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
>|| > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
>|| > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
>
>Oh Yeah! Wasn't that a hoot to see & hear? When the little brushes that
>read the carriage control tape would get too dirty... whoosh! If you
>didn't have a stacker, the paper would stand up off the top of the
>printer and go straight across the room.
>
>I was actually lucky enough to see this happen twice. Thanks for the
>memory! :)
>
I prefer the stories from the card days of 2nd and 3rd shift
operators lifting floor panels, looking for their beer stash,
and dropping the panel on a fire sensor and dumping the halon.
And being buried under a cards.

Bill



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:07
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:33:34, [e-mail] wrote:

> Many adaptec controllers require 3 terminators.  Sounds stupid, defies
> specification, but gets rid of a lot of problems.  The "errors" are a
> signal problem on the cable.
>
> Roland
>

How do you get 3 terminators on the bus, when there are only supposed
to be two ends????

No wonder you have so many problems...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     06-Oct-99 16:37:10
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:35:56, [e-mail] wrote:

> Run CHKDSK /F:2 a lot.  You have disk corruption going on.
>
> Roland
>

No, it is a problem with FP11. You can work around it by turning off
the Archive bit in the Folder (directory) where you are trying to save
the file. FP12 fixes the problem.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                           06-Oct-99 20:45:17
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Staroffice 5.1

From: [e-mail] (Ian Johnston)

Jonathan Phillips ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Why not just purchase the CD.
: I did and its much cheaper than the phone bill!

Except that they want $25 to sent the CD to the UK - and it still takes
8 - 10 days.

Ian

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From: [e-mail]                         06-Oct-99 17:55:06
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Fp12 and default fonts

From: [e-mail] (Martin Racette)

Hi guys,

I installed FP12 yesterday (Tuesday),
and since then the default fonts for the
message and dialog box are all bigger
than they were before, is it a bug with
this FP?

BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
had no problem of this kind before

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

ICQ #48552954

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From: [e-mail]                                06-Oct-99 14:20:29
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail]

doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>In my case, NC4.61 picked it up from 4.04, without any further action  on my
>part. However, when I first installed NC4.04, it did not get  installed
>automatically. All I did was take the file nppdfos2.dll,  from the
>Acrobat\ReadOS2 directory, and put it into the  Netscape\Program\Plugins
>directory. NC picked it up, and uses it just  fine.

Same here on both counts.  I was just interested in this simple "point at"
procedure.  I don't see how it can work.  Stuff that isn't in applications
gets
displayed in the main window, so how can you point it to anything?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                      06-Oct-99 21:00:03
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: running dos in os/2

From: Matt Blackwell <[e-mail]>

I am trying to set up an old server that was given to my school.  How do I
start dos emulation in os/2?  Can windows be installed on a compaq
prosignia server?

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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Oct-99 15:59:26
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 19:55:17
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Michael W. Cocke  <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> There's something wrong with either your floppy hardware or the driver
> for it (IBM1FLPY.ADD).

This seems to have been fixed. I disconnected everything, cleaned the
contacts, and re-plugged it in; now the floppy works. Still many problems
remain (see other post).

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Oct-99 22:04:18
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 21:36:00
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: [e-mail] (DiiN)

In article <7tdplf$6nq$[e-mail]>,
"Sam Brown" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>maybe you accidently search/replaced windows NT with os/2.
>hahaha

The big and slow Dino's allready died out, and of course NT will die out
as well.
ha ha ha :-)

--

Groetens, Dieter.

***Email  [e-mail] (Dieter)
***Netmail 2:280/815.16

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 21:47:26
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 21:36:00
Subj: Re: fp 12 note: rexx ea problem solved

From: [e-mail] (Paul Fredell)

In message <37f3f2ec$1$qnavryu$[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] writes:
:>
:>btw: fp12 solves EPM's "ea > 32k" bug .
:>--
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>[e-mail]
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>

So I noticed.  But now EPM "chirps" when opening such a file; is this
normal?


==WPF==
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://home.earthlink.net/~pfredell/

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From: [e-mail]                        06-Oct-99 19:09:12
  To: All                                               06-Oct-99 21:36:00
Subj: Re: fp 12 note: rexx ea problem solved

From: "Larry Snider" <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 09:47 PM, [e-mail] (Paul Fredell) said:
=>In message <37f3f2ec$1$qnavryu$[e-mail]> -
=>[e-mail] writes:
=>:>
=>:>btw: fp12 solves EPM's "ea > 32k" bug .
=>:>--
=>:>-----------------------------------------------------------
=>:>[e-mail]
=>:>-----------------------------------------------------------
=>:>

=>So I noticed.  But now EPM "chirps" when opening such a file; is this
=>normal?

I haven't experienced anything like that.  Do you have an example file that
you could send me?  I'd really like to test this out.

--
Larry Snider - Portsmouth, RI
Internet: [e-mail]
FidoNet: 1:109/921.52

"That OS/2 Feller"

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From: [e-mail]                                     07-Oct-99 00:23:12
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:16:29
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (Don Morse)

:>:>> My problem is this:
:>:>>         I have just got my ISP, who is local, to burn my website on a
:>:>> cdrom.  It was done
:>:>> on a Win98 machine and works fine on my machine when running WIN95 and
:>:>> Win98

:>:>>     Why can't Netscape in OS2 find the files when Windows95 can. E is
:>:>> my cdrom
:>:>> drive in Win95. J is my cdrom drive in OS2.
:>:>>     I've tried a dozen different things but nothing seems to work.
:>:>> Got any ideas?


you actually answered your own question above.  the CD was burned on a 98
machine
using the BS microsoft "long filename" approach.  Go ahead, create a long
filename
in windows, then try to copy it using the long name.  you must use the
truncated
version with the "~1" in the filename.



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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 00:49:01
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)

In message <7tgp5s$tve$[e-mail]> - :24 GMT writes:
:>
:>:>:>> My problem is this:
:>:>:>>         I have just got my ISP, who is local, to burn my website on a
:>:>:>> cdrom.  It was done
:>:>:>> on a Win98 machine and works fine on my machine when running WIN95 and
:>:>:>> Win98
:>
:>:>:>>     Why can't Netscape in OS2 find the files when Windows95 can. E is
:>:>:>> my cdrom
:>:>:>> drive in Win95. J is my cdrom drive in OS2.
:>:>:>>     I've tried a dozen different things but nothing seems to work.
:>:>:>> Got any ideas?
:>
:>
:>you actually answered your own question above.  the CD was burned on a 98
:>machine
:>using the BS microsoft "long filename" approach.  Go ahead, create a long
:>filename
:>in windows, then try to copy it using the long name.  you must use the
:>truncated
:>version with the "~1" in the filename.
:>

    I found the solution you might want to know as well. Add a /W to the
IFS X:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS.  This is not documented anyplace I can find
but it works.

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 19:50:27
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: [e-mail] (Andrew James Alan Welty)

> This is going to sound like an awfully stupid question, but I'm stumped.
>
> I downloaded and installed the program.  They sent me the registration
> key.  What next?  I've read the entire manual, and can't find any
> way to apply the registration key to the program.

Right click, select About (or press F12) then Unlock Now.

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From: [e-mail]                     05-Oct-99 22:21:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "L. Mark Stone" <[e-mail]>

You can keep C: as NTFS if you add the subst command to your
autoexec.bat file.

Here's mine:

@ECHO OFF
SET ATI_NOEE_M64=D:\MACH_OS2\EEDATA.EE_
ECHO.
PROMPT $i$p$g
REM SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;
SET WIN3DIR=D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2
PATH=D:\OS2;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\;D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;
LOADHIGH APPEND D:\OS2;D:\OS2\SYSTEM
SET TMP=D:\TEMP
REM LOADHIGH DOSKEY FINDFILE=DIR /A /S /B $*
REM DOSKEY EDIT=QBASIC/EDITOR $*
REM SET DIRCMD=/A
SET TEMP=D:\TEMP
SET ETC=d:\tcpip\dos\etc
SUBST C: E:\

Note that E:\ need not be FAT, but OS/2 must be able to read it.



"Eric A. Erickson" wrote:
>
> On 28 Sep 1999 00:38:37 GMT, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
> >Eric A. Erickson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> >>notebook.
> >
> >Is drive C: accessible?  Presumably because of brain-dead programming,
> >a lot of M$ stuff won't run unless you let it write to drive C:, even
> >if the software is installed in another drive.  You'll get this problem
> >if, for example, you convert C: to a format (like NTFS) for which you
> >don't have OS/2 drivers.
> >
> Bingo. That it. I had just converted the C: Drive to NT and formatted it as
an NTFS
> partition.  I just wiped and re-formatted as FAT and all work well. Have to
write this one
> down and keep it for posterity.
>
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet:
[e-mail]
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: [phone] <-Newe'

--
_______________________________________________
Another Message From L. Mark Stone

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 18:21:10
  To: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

To: [e-mail]
From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>

(Roland) a.k.a. [e-mail] wrote:
>
{snip}
> Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
> complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
> weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before
> posting a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has
> been posted multiple times.

May I "sound off" on this?  I find the above was
expressed in a rather arrogant, not very helpful and
entirely unwarranted manner.  It certainly could
have been offered as constructive advice, if only a
moment's thought --and consideration-- were
employed.

I've been reading (and learning from) this newsgroup
for almost a month and have observed that a few
contributors seem to believe this newsgroup is like
a post-graduate seminar that "belong" only to
individuals who are at the pinnacle of OS/2 use,
knowledge and experience.  While that may be true
(thankfully) for a sizable number of those who post
here, newsgroup readers and contributors must always
be cognizant that unravelling the
mysteries/complexities of OS/2 by oneself is not a
piece of cake.

"Help me" postings are to be expected from newsgroup
readers -- and should not be greeted with contempt
or derision.  People can _and do_ learn from their
mistakes.  Let's not be so snide as to intimidate
others who can benefit from our knowledge.

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            06-Oct-99 20:48:13
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 08:49 AM, Chuck Davis <[e-mail]> said:

>If we want OS/2 to remain viable we have to give IBM some money that they
>don't have to pass along to MS.  We can do that through Software Choice.

I don't know if this entire article is wishful thinking or right on the
mark.

It sounds plausible, but then again.....

--
GK

FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 31 Processes with 125 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 4d 12h 42m 42s 976ms.


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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 18:50:23
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>


Jan Eri wrote:
>
> OS/2 Warp 4 freezes sometimes when printing from Lotus WordPro 1.1
> to HPLJ.  This happens with several different FixPack's including
> the new FP12, and I  believe it has also happened with two different
> versions of the laserjet driver. When it freezes I can still move
> the mouse, but otherwise only Ctrl-Alt-Del works ...

Jan:

I just encountered (discovered) this today myself.
Same symptom (mouse can move, but system is
frozen.)

I'd just installed FP12 through IBM's RSU (nifty
facility) from the Software Choice site.  What I did
to fix the problem was simply to re-install WordPro,
but only after updating my driver with the Device
Driver fixpak.

I believe the problem arises from FP 11 and FP 12
not coming with the Device Driver fixpak/update, so
your old driver got clobbered or confused when FP 11
and 12 were installed.  Go to IBM's Software Choice
site and grab the Device Driver fixpak (can also be
installed through RSU).  Install the DD fixpak, then
re-install WordPro.  That should do the trick.

Good luck.

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From: [e-mail]                                06-Oct-99 22:04:19
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Mesa/2 Website

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

In a response to a previous post I was told that there is a website on which
Mesa/2 users can post questions and support each other.  I have unfortunately
lost the URL.  Can anyone tell me what it is?

Regards,  Alex


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From: [e-mail]                            07-Oct-99 02:04:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-WIdVCvjmOdTd@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:
>On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:33:34, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Many adaptec controllers require 3 terminators.  Sounds stupid, defies
>> specification, but gets rid of a lot of problems.  The "errors" are a
>> signal problem on the cable.

>How do you get 3 terminators on the bus, when there are only supposed
>to be two ends????
>
>No wonder you have so many problems...
>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett

Maybe he has one of these newfangled Adaptec on-board creatures or the
card version.  The on board one has two 68 pin connectors and two 50 pin
connectors as well!

The later card has two 68 pin connectors and one 50 pin connector for
the inside cables.  It also has an external cable port.

We've got working operations on the Adaptec 2940UW and 2940UW Pro cards.
We have failed to get any combination of the on-board Adaptec chipset
deal to recognize the BA/2 stuff.  At this point, we are also having a
failure on the later model plug in card with the two 68 pin ports
internally..

We discovered we, indeed, had to use external termination on the end of
the ribbon for a WD 9.18 GB drive.  You could low level prep it, proof
it and even tape restore it fully, but the controller wouldn't stop
squawking about "improper termination..", until we, indeed used a
passive (or active!) terminator on the end of the cable and put the
drive inboard of it!

And just think!  Now we have 80 pinners too!

Now that he has mentioned what he has, I've got to go back and try the
stunt to cable and/or terminate some other ports, as well as the one we
are using..  It just might be that this silly extraneous termination
that he is suggesting ... just could be the 'fix' needed.

Yes, I realize all this shouldn't be.  Kind of like the bumble bee.
Aerodynamically, it ain't safe to fly, but tell that to a hive of killer
bees in South Texas nowdaze!


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 18:58:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Installing Lotus SmartSuite - Problems (continue ...)

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>


Doug Bissett wrote:

> > i'm wondering if perhaps i need to apply the device driver fixpack > >  to
successfully install smartsuite on my system?

> I don't know if that is your problem, or not, BUT, I would suggest
> installing the DD fix pack anyway. If you just installed FP11, over > a new
warp4 install, you will be missing a LOT of driver updates,
> and I wouldn't even want to guess what might be missing.

I concur with Doug's advice to install the DD
fixpak.   Do that and then reinstall WordPro.  See
my reply (a few lines above this) to Jan Eri re:
"OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro".  While
you're at it, I'd also go to FP 12 -- 11 was
something of a dud, as I understand.

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 19:13:14
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Wordpro "Invalid FIle"

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>


Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 15:23:29 -0400, Walter S. Rue wrote:
>

> ->In SS v1.1 with the fixpack, I am unable to save a file in anything but
> ->the product *\WORK\WORDPRO folder, even if it was opened originally
> ->elsewhere.  The message is "invalid file".  I recall the previous post
> ->mentioning something about attribute settings, but my tinkering has had
> ->no effect.
> ->
> ->But the situation has worsened.  Now I can't save even into
> ->WORK\WORDPRO, still with the same message.  Basically, WORDPRO no longer
> ->works!
> ->
> ->Should I reinstall v1.1, leaving out the FP?



> It's fixpack 11 that does this. It starts setting the Archive attribute on
> directories and some things break when this happens. Remove the archive
> attribute using attrib -a dirname and it should be OK. Or back out of FP11
> or upgrade to FP12 which _should_ fix this.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> ([e-mail] or [e-mail])


I concur with Trevor's assessment.  I would also
strongly urge going to FP 12.

More advice: when you upgrade to FP 12, also install
the current Device Driver fixpak (DD fixpaks are no
longer bundled with the FPs).  Then re-install
WordPro, as it apparently has difficulty with the
printer driver (i.e. hangs the system when you
attempt to make changes within the print dialogue
box; the first print job goes OK, but any subsequent
jobs are toast) being installed over it.  Install
the device driver pak first, then re-install
WordPro.  (See my response to Jan Eri in the earlier
thread re: "OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro")

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 19:18:06
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Wordpro Woes

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <7t68vq$fu8$[e-mail]>, on 10/03/99
>    at 12:45 AM, [e-mail] said:
>
> >I have a document that I have created in Lotus
> >Wordpro. I want to print the document with the
> >gridlines, the gridlines appear on the screen,
> >but they will not print out on the paper. Please
> >help me with any suggestions.
>
> Considering how much WordPro depends on the printer driver for
> WYSIWIG display, it really seems to be fussy about the drivers
> themselves.  I'd suggest trying an older or a newer version of the
> printer driver.  In the case of WordPro, newer is not always better.
>
> Steven

While Steven is probably right on point re: WordPro
depending on the printer driver and he might have a
good point re: "newer is not always better", I'd say
you should 1) upgrade to FixPak 12; 2) install the
newest Device Driver fixpak; and 3) re-install
WordPro.

For additional info, see my reply to Jan Eri a
couple of threads above (re: OS/2 hangs when
printing from WordPro).  Good luck.

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 19:25:09
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Mesa/2 Website

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>

Try a URL or a websearch with "sundial" or "sundial
systems" in it.

Alex Bell wrote:
>
> In a response to a previous post I was told that there is a website on which
> Mesa/2 users can post questions and support each other.  I have
unfortunately
> lost the URL.  Can anyone tell me what it is?
>
> Regards,  Alex

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 19:19:23
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>

Sounds like good advice, but where does one get
Smart Cache?

Anssi Saari wrote:
>
> jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci) writes:
>
> > With netscape 4.61 for OS2 with FP11 Warp 4, the
> > browser creates a flurry of prolonged disk activity
> > with the tool bar showing cleanup of cache files
> > usually greater than 100 files.
> >
> > Slows netscape to a crawl.
> > Any fix?  Cause of problem
>
> Disable disk cache in Netscape and use a separate program, like
> SmartCache.
>
> --
> Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               06-Oct-99 22:21:00
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: running dos in os/2

From: [e-mail]

Matt Blackwell <[e-mail]> said:

>I am trying to set up an old server that was given to my school.  How do
>I  start dos emulation in os/2?  Can windows be installed on a compaq
>prosignia server?

What version of OS2 are you running?

There is nothing for you do but click on a command prompt for DOS or OS2.
The OS2 prompt will switch itself to DOS if command is DOS.

Look in the system setup folder for the command prompt folder. They will
also be at the top of the screen for Warp 4, or on the bottom for Warp 3
and I think OS2 Ver2 (Its been too long since I looked).




Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                             06-Oct-99 22:39:05
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Mesa/2 Website

From: "Michael L. Semon" <[e-mail]>

Alex Bell wrote:
>
> In a response to a previous post I was told that there is a website on which
> Mesa/2 users can post questions and support each other.  I have
unfortunately
> lost the URL.  Can anyone tell me what it is?
>
> Regards,  Alex

Though I don't have a public forum, my Mesa 2 site is at
http://www.guide.mesa2.com/ . I haven't found a site quite like what
you're requesting.  Have fun!

                        --Michael

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Oct-99 03:19:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: running dos in os/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Matt Blackwell <[e-mail]> writes:

>I am trying to set up an old server that was given to my school.  How do I
>start dos emulation in os/2?  Can windows be installed on a compaq
>prosignia server?

In Warp 4 it's really easy.  There is a folder in your OS/2 folder
caller Setup.  Click on it and there should be a folder in it call Add
Programs.  Click on that.  You'll get two choices, to add programs or to
search for other programs.   You'll have to go through the litany of
adding programs no matter what.  When they have been 'found', then you
get to go on and round up all the other programs and batch files.  You
can pick from whatever it finds.  Then you tell it to add them to the
desktop...

Poof!

Up to three new "ADDITIONAL.. " program folders may appear in your
programs folder on the desktop.  DOS .. WIN .. OS/2 ...  Inside that
will be the ones you added!

Now how you tell Warp 4 all the exact right SESSION SETTING commands to
go along with the programs you added ..  Well, that's another whole
*LONG* story in DOS for itself...  'Tis especially true of
communications DOS-VDM programs that you try to run on OS/2 ...

However .. this may get you started...


-> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 03:35:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: Fp12 and default fonts

From: luistino <[e-mail]>

Martin Racette wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I installed FP12 yesterday (Tuesday),
> and since then the default fonts for the
> message and dialog box are all bigger
> than they were before, is it a bug with
> this FP?
>
> BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
> G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
> had no problem of this kind before
>
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> http://205.237.57.73/
>
> ICQ #48552954

Same here...Diamond Stealth video 64/ os2 drivers

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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 23:39:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Re: StarOffice 5.1 doesn't read Ami Pro for OS/2 3.0 files?

From: Julian Dominic <[e-mail]>

I don't think so.  I have the OS/2 version installed and it does not
list Amipro as one of the file types in the open filters.  I have
WordPro installed and StarOffice does launch WordPro for the documents
that WordPro supports.

Paul Zarembka wrote:

> I tried to read an Ami Pro for OS/2 3.0 file in StarOffice (in the
> Windows 98 version) and it didn't display the AmiPro file altho it
> appeared to be doing a conversion (Office 5.1 claims it reads AmiPro
> 3.x).  Any ideas what the problem is?  Would I be OK on my OS/2
> machine if I installed the OS/2 version of Office 5.1?
>
> Thanks, Paul Zarembka



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From: [e-mail]                                   06-Oct-99 22:42:22
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 03:17:00
Subj: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>

I've lost count of the times I have not been
successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.

Every effort has produced a screen (after the
whirling globe) that is titled "Installation" and
contains nothing more than a pretty picture of a cup
of coffee and a couple of donuts.  No appearance or
any hint of the "follow the steps from there".

After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?

I'm at FP 12 and current Java build is Warp 4's
original 1.0.1 from 1996.  I've unzipped the two
.zip files in the Package folder that were created
from the downloaded javainrt.exe file.  I've
uninstalled the entire OS2\INSTALL\Installed
Features, blowing away all the pretty little "blue
boxes with red bows".  I've even re-booted.

As far as I can tell, I'm all hot to trot, but all I
can get is that damned cup of coffee and a couple of
(by now stale) donuts!  Is that all there is?

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Oct-99 02:29:05
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 10:42 PM, "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]> said:


>original 1.0.1 from 1996.  I've unzipped the two
>..zip files in the Package folder that were created
>from the downloaded javainrt.exe file.  I've
>uninstalled the entire OS2\INSTALL\Installed
>Features, blowing away all the pretty little "blue
>boxes with red bows".  I've even re-booted.

>As far as I can tell, I'm all hot to trot, but all I
>can get is that damned cup of coffee and a couple of
>(by now stale) donuts!  Is that all there is?

One gotcha is using 4os2. If you are using 4os2, you need to open a
non-4os2 session; it's sufficient to type cmd.exe within a 4os2 box. I
don't think the 4os2 problem has been fixed.

If it's something else, I'm afraid I don't know but I hope you track it
down.

F.


-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis
     [e-mail]    |  [e-mail]
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                         07-Oct-99 08:35:08
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 05:18:12
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:

If I am correct you get a Sys3175 in install.dll.  Please confirm using the
file popup.log.

arjen

:>I've lost count of the times I have not been
:>successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
:>unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
:>
:>Every effort has produced a screen (after the
:>whirling globe) that is titled "Installation" and
:>contains nothing more than a pretty picture of a cup
:>of coffee and a couple of donuts.  No appearance or
:>any hint of the "follow the steps from there".
:>
:>After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
:>for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?
:>
:>I'm at FP 12 and current Java build is Warp 4's
:>original 1.0.1 from 1996.  I've unzipped the two
:>..zip files in the Package folder that were created
:>from the downloaded javainrt.exe file.  I've
:>uninstalled the entire OS2\INSTALL\Installed
:>Features, blowing away all the pretty little "blue
:>boxes with red bows".  I've even re-booted.
:>
:>As far as I can tell, I'm all hot to trot, but all I
:>can get is that damned cup of coffee and a couple of
:>(by now stale) donuts!  Is that all there is?
:>



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From: [e-mail]                          07-Oct-99 15:57:28
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:28
Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 02:40:44 GMT, Kari Suomela wrote:

:>
:>Tuesday October 05 1999 17:15, Sam Brown wrote to All:
:>
:> SB> shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more??
:>
:>Except people who know how to capitalize, use proper language and know
:>what they're doing! :)
:>
:> KS
:>

ROTFL :-)

Wayne

Still using OS/2


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Oct-99 11:00:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:28
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Maximilian Stempfhuber" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:

>I've lost count of the times I have not been
>successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
>unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
[...]
>After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
>for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?

Did you install the latest FeatureInstall (1.25) plugin?

Regards


Maximilian Stempfhuber
Project Manager
___________________________________________________________________
German Social Science Information Centre (IZ)
Project ELVIRA II
Lennéstr. 30, 53113 Bonn, Germany
Tel.: (+49) (0)228 - 2281-139
Fax: (+49) (0)228 - 2281-120
E-Mail: [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.elvira.bonn.iz-soz.de
___________________________________________________________________
The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." So I bought OS/2 Warp


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From: [e-mail]                        07-Oct-99 09:40:15
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: Website Cdrom in OS2??

From: [e-mail] (Mike Fry)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:49:02, [e-mail] (A. Willard Reese)
wrote:

> I found the solution you might want to know as well. Add a /W to the
> IFS X:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS.  This is not documented anyplace I can find
> but it works.
>

Look at the README.1ST files from any of the more recent fixpaks. I
think the switch maybe case-sensitive - README.1ST from FP12 has it as
/w.

Regards,
MIKE FRY
mailto:[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Oct-99 05:51:12
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <37fa3ce2$4$yvsrqngn$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:
>[e-mail] (James Knott) said:
>
>>For PDF files, I just point Netscape at the Adobe Acrobat reader.  Works
fine.
>>This can be done in edit>preferences>applications.
>
>Some of us can't make head or tails out of helpers and plugins.  I just went
>there and read the helps - not much.
>
>Maybe you can tell us just EXACTLY what it takes to "point at" Adobe.

Just open the preferences as shown above. (applications may be hidden
below Navigator)

Click on New Type
Fill in Description and file type (PDF for PDF files)
In Mime type put image/pdf
Then in Application to use, enter the path & name of the Acrobat
reader.  You can use the Browse button to find it

The same process works for any new type that you have an application
for.

--
E-mail [e-mail]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: [e-mail]                      07-Oct-99 11:52:01
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: Bostjan Vilfan <[e-mail]>


Maximilian Stempfhuber wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:
>
> >I've lost count of the times I have not been
> >successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
> >unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
> [...]
> >After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
> >for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?
>
> Did you install the latest FeatureInstall (1.25) plugin?
>
> Regards
>

Another thing that might help: delete references to Java11 in CONFIG.SYS
before installing

Regards,

Bostjan Vilfan

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From: [e-mail]                           07-Oct-99 06:51:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Need Xfree Help!

From: "Gail Koontz" <[e-mail]>

I posted this first in comp.os.os2.setup.misc, because I thought that was the
right spot, but
no one has replied, so I'm trying again. There are at least two of us with the
same
problem, and we have two different graphics cards. Could someone please
suggest
something to try? I'm fresh out of ideas, and I've been working on this for
several days.

I should also say that ping localhost works fine.

Using WARP 4, I installed Xfree 3.3.5 over 3.3.2, which was working (at least
to the extent of getting the window manager loaded and having things like the
clock running). Now I get a gray screen with an X in it and nothing else.
I've checked to make sure that xf86config didn't get covered up and that
everything in config.sys is still pointing to the right places. I'm using a
Permedia chip (Elsa Gloria Synergy) at 1024x768, and the server code for that
(xf86_3dlabs.exe) doesn't appear to have changed. I'm using the latest
version of EMX. Can anyone give me a hint what might be wrong? I'd really
like to get this working so that I could install GIMP.

Sorry that this will be long, but here are the relevant config.sys entries
(except for those in the PATH and  LIBPATH statements) and the two error
logs.

REM ** The following lines set up XFree **
REM ** There are additional entries in PATH and LIBPATH
DEVICE=G:\XFree86\lib\xf86sup.sys
SET TERM=ansi
SET TERMCAP=G:/XFree86/lib/X11/etc/emx.termcap.x11
SET USER=koontz
SET LOGNAME=koontz
SET HOME=G:\XFree86\user\koontz
SET X11ROOT=G:
SET DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
SET XSERVER=G:/XFree86/bin/XF86_3DLabs.exe
SET MANPATH=G:/XFree86/man
SET HOSTNAME=localhost
REM ** End XFree lines **

Error log (don't know why the beginning includes what was in the clipboard -
twice):

XFree86 Version 3.3.3 / X Window
http://goeurope.about.com/travel/europe/goeurope/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=h
ttp://www.citadines.com/http://goeurope.about.com/travel/europe/goeurope/gi/dy
namic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.citadines.com/System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: November 13 1998
    If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
    than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
    problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: OS/2 IBM
Configured drivers:
  GLINT: accelerated server for 3DLabs GLINT graphics adapters
(Patchlevel 0)
xf86-OS/2: gethostname() returns: "localhost"
xf86-OS/2: DISPLAY to listen is set to: "localhost:0.0"
xf86-OS/2: gethostbyname() returns the following data:
xf86-OS/2:    official host name: "localhost"
xf86-OS/2:    addr type = 2,  addr length = 4
xf86-OS/2:      Internet address: "127.0.0.1"
xf86-OS/2: Console opened
xf86-OS/2: Keyboard opened
xf86-OS/2: Started Vio thread, Tid=2
xf86-OS/2: Started hard error Vio mode monitor thread, Tid=3
xf86-OS/2: Started Kbd monitor thread, Tid=4
xf86-OS/2: Started Kbd bit-bucket thread, Tid=5
xf86-OS/2: Opened kbd monitor, rc=0
xf86-OS/2: Kbd monitor registered, rc=0
xf86-OS/2: Kbd Queue created, rc=0
XF86Config: G:/XFree86/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) OsMouse selected for mouse input

(**) GLINT: Graphics device ID: "ELSA GLoria Synergy"
(**) GLINT: Monitor ID: "IIyama Vision Master Pro17"
(--) GLINT: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) GLINT: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
"G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,G:/XF
ree86/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,G:/XFree86/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,G:/XFree8
6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(--) GLINT: found TI chip GLINT Permedia 2 at card #0 func #0 with base
0xe3000000
_X11TransOs2OpenClient: Open server pipe \PIPE\xf86.0 failed, rc=3
_X11Trans    Probable causes: either the XServer is not running, or has
not started properly,
_X11Trans    or the DISPLAY variable is set incorrectly.
_X11TransOpen: transport open failed for local/localhost:0

waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .

Process terminated by SIGTERM

xf86log.os2:

xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xe3000000, Size=
0x40000
(--) GLINT: Framebuffer address at 0xe2000000
(--) GLINT: videoram : 8192k
(--) GLINT: Using builtin RAMDAC of Permedia 2 chip
(--) GLINT: Fitted Memory type is : SGRAM
(--) GLINT: VGA core is : Enabled
(--) GLINT: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 230.000 MHz
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Cannot support interlaced modes, deleting.
(**) GLINT: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 115.500
(**) GLINT: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  69.650
(**) GLINT: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  45.800
xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xa0000, Size=
0x10000
xf86-OS/2: xf86MapVidMem succeeded: (ScreenNum= 0, Base= 0xe2000000, Size=
0x800000
(--) GLINT: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) GLINT: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) GLINT: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) GLINT: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching
(--) GLINT: XAA: Caching tiles and non-transparent stipples
(--) GLINT: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
xf86-OS/2: OsMouse has 3 button(s).
xf86-OS/2: Started Mouse event thread, Tid=6
xf86-OS/2: Mouse Queue created, rc=0
Command line for XKB is G:\XFree86\lib\X11\xkb\xkbcomp -w 1
-RG:\XFree86\lib\X11\xkb -xkm -m us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler
(xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the
X server" keymap/xfree86 compiled/xfree86.xkm

Gail Koontz        Retired in my home state
836 Mallard Rd.         . . . and loving it!
Cocoa, FL 32926    [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                                 07-Oct-99 11:47:16
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 10:30:29
Subj: Re: Fp12 and default fonts

From: [e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:55:12, [e-mail] (Martin Racette)
wrote:

> BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
> G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
> had no problem of this kind before

Didn't happen here with the G200. You know you can change the default
system font in the Matrox MGA  Settings object?

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 12:19:14
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: Fp12 and default fonts

From: "Rob Burton" <[e-mail]>

I have a Mystique and my default fonts are set in Scheme Palette AND in the
MGA Settings Font page as Warpsans 9 Normal. FP 12 did not disturb this.

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 03:35:33 GMT, luistino wrote:

|Martin Racette wrote:
|>
|> Hi guys,
|>
|> I installed FP12 yesterday (Tuesday),
|> and since then the default fonts for the
|> message and dialog box are all bigger
|> than they were before, is it a bug with
|> this FP?
|>
|> BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
|> G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
|> had no problem of this kind before
|>
|> //-------------------------
|> Thank you in advance
|>
|> Merci a l'avance
|>
|> Martin
|>
|> http://205.237.57.73/
|>
|> ICQ #48552954
|
|Same here...Diamond Stealth video 64/ os2 drivers



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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 12:49:10
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:51:50, "Dale Curren" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > I suspected to get a message telling me that I was not acceptable in the
> > world of AT&T but I logged on just like always, picked up and sent email,
> > picked up my newsgroups, cruised through a bunch of favorite websites.
> > Can it last?
> >
>
> A little off topic, but:
>
> YES, until Oct. 1 2000, then you will be in NEVER-NEVER land. Change
> all of your e-mail, Netscape, and anything else that might have the
> "ibm.net" domain defined, to the "attglobal.net" domain. The sooner
> the better, but definitely before Oct.1 2000.

Wise advice but logistically the implications could vary between
individuals as you also have to:

1. Check/Confirm that ALL parties that correspond with you are
using the new address well before Oct 2000. If this shows in TO: address
field of received mail then great but otherwise you might have to check
page source detail info/headers.
Personally I havn't experimented to see how this might change if you log
onto IBM.NET or ATTGLOBAL.NET explicitly?
Either way it implies some effort depending on the size of your address
book and/or parties you have corresponded with(and their importance to
you)!.

2. Possibly change any digital ID certs (eg VeriSign)....   :-(

Because you can't guarantee when individual IBM.NET users will change to
logging in on ATTGLOBAL before Oct2000 and whether all "other parties"
have ACTUALLY updated your address it would have been useful if any mail
servers/gateways for IBM.NET actually included text in "undeliverable"
message explicitly suggesting "the ATTGLOBAL.NET alternative" after the
Oct2k cutoff!
Doing this a few weeks/months prior to cutoff would also be enormously
helpfull (at risk of burdening bandwidth with extra "receipts" of
course).

Having just spent some considerable time already going thru several
hundred entries in my address book (because at one time I foolishly
experimented with a WebMail ID<g>) and now facing the same because of
someone elses "decision" I posed the above to AT&T 's Help Desk.
....and received the predictable:  "I've just checked that Sir and
regret it appears we can't(won't?) do what you suggest -
Sorry".......       :-(

So if one has to expend some imponderable effort anyway I'm seriously
wondering whether to evaluate other alternative ISP's before commencing
the "pain" of changing IBM > ATTGLOBAL.
The majority of other ISP's appear cheaper anyway although I don't know
whether multi accounts, access reliability/speed can be comparable to
IBM's former and presumably AT&T's quality/performance?.

I just hope the above potential problems/inconveniences are "non" events
for the majority...... <vbg>

> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"


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From: [e-mail]                                  06-Oct-99 13:11:21
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Jan Eri wrote:

> Wonder if this is a known problem:
>
> OS/2 Warp 4 freezes sometimes when printing from Lotus WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ.
> This happens with several different FixPack's including the new FP12, and I
> believe it has also happened with two different versions of the laserjet
> driver. When it freezes I can still move the mouse, but otherwise only
> Ctrl-Alt-Del works (Process Commander is no help).
>
> This happens quite often when printing to our networked Laserjet 4050, but
> also when printing to the PMFax (FaxWorks) printer driver.
>
> Anyone else seen this or know a solution?

Well you've presumably checked for obvious resource conflicts,cleaned
INI's and ran CHKDSK but it's still unclear(to me<g>) whether this
problem is machine and/or application specific and whether SSuite
service 1.1.1 has been applied?

FWIW - Seen identical symptoms -but deleting/recreating Printer Q's has
always resolved up to now along with resetting default printer to
local(non fax) printer......
Depending on what Network printers/printer server(NOS) you're connected
to then you may need to equivalise print driver versions on client  to
server or even use null prt driver on server. Check you don't have any
orphaned spool file headers in local spool file(obviously not used for
networking<g>).
If this fails - temporarily backout PCdr (as it's PMMERGE/DOSCALL1 may
be the problem).

Lastly(desperately?), if all else fails then delete Launchpad/WC
object,reboot from diskette and delete Nowhere dirs (remembering that
Launchpad container objects and/or WarpCentre icons will be lost so
you'll need to re-customise), assuming you have already CHKDSK and
checked/discounted video bios+driver versions..
Assuming LAUNCHPAD(and/or WarpCentre) is on AUTOSTART line then these
will be recreated.  A new Nowhere dir will be created on reboot as well
and this is where transient (print job) objects are located in their
"awakened" state..... but I somehow doubt this is problem...  :-(

One assumes that PMfax is not lan based and that all other printing from
other apps is fault free as well as printing to same print server from
WordPro on equivalent PC(h/w + s/w) using same net work port?
The opportunity for temporarily attaching the LJ4050 locally may not be
practical but if feasible for the short(?) period in order to recreate
or confirm absence of problem, this might give some further insight?

Depending on the info subsequently supplied, numerous other
possibilities could be suggested no doubt.

> regards, Jan
>
> ----------------------------------
> Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
> Work: http://www.protector-group.no
> Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"

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From: [e-mail]                               07-Oct-99 12:43:08
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Every effort has produced a screen (after the
> whirling globe) that is titled "Installation" and
> contains nothing more than a pretty picture of a cup
> of coffee and a couple of donuts.  No appearance or
> any hint of the "follow the steps from there".

You don't get buttons to push below that cup?


Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 14:43:00
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Display Driver

From: "Stephane Champneuf" <[e-mail]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BF10D2.40B42E70
Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We've bought a lot of Toshiba Satellite 4070 CDS.
These PCs are using a TRIDENT CYBER9525DVD PCI/AGP video card.
We didn't succeeded in finding the device driver for this card under WARP 4.0

Could someone help me ??

mailto: [e-mail]


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We've bought a lot of Toshiba Satellite 4070
CDS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>These PCs are using a TRIDENT CYBER9525DVD
PCI/AGP
video card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We didn't succeeded in finding the device driver
for this card under WARP 4.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Could someone help me ??</FONT></DIV>
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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 07:38:25
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: Display Driver

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

That chipset is not even listed on Trident's web site.

> Stephane Champneuf wrote:
>
> We've bought a lot of Toshiba Satellite 4070 CDS.
> These PCs are using a TRIDENT CYBER9525DVD PCI/AGP video card.
> We didn't succeeded in finding the device driver for this card under
> WARP 4.0
>
> Could someone help me ??
>
> mailto: [e-mail]
>

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From: [e-mail]                 07-Oct-99 01:33:10
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:20
Subj: Re: Netscape: long cache Cleanup times ?Fix

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Sounds like good advice, but where does one get
>Smart Cache?

http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                          07-Oct-99 14:06:20
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: SmartCache

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:54:19, Anssi Saari <[e-mail]> a ┌crit dans un
message:

> rmahoney@_REMOVE_THIS_netusa.net (Robert Mahoney) writes:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:01:13, [e-mail] (John
> > Hong) wrote:
> >
> > >     Is it possible to have both SmartCache and Internet Junkbuster
> > > running at the same time for a browser?  There is only room there for
one
> > > http proxy...
> >
> >   Sure, I have them chained.   Netscape has a localhost proxy to port
> > 8080 which is the Smart Cache port.  In the Smart Cache config file
> > have a line...
>
> But what's the point? I haven't used Junkbuster any more after
> starting Smart Cache. Smart Cache seems to block what I want it to
> block pretty good.

Yes, it's amazing, isn't it? I wish all programs (not just all *Java*
programs) ran this well.

I think there's something else that Junkbuster can do with "secure" sites
that SCache doesn't, though. SCache doesn't cache or block anything with
"https://" URLs, and maybe JB does?

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 16:23:18
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: Christoph Vogt <[e-mail]>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Am 07.10.99, 10.00.15, schrieb "Maximilian Stempfhuber"
<[e-mail]> zum Thema Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?:


> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:

> >I've lost count of the times I have not been
> >successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
> >unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
> [...]
> >After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
> >for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?

> Did you install the latest FeatureInstall (1.25) plugin?

> Regards

Try this:

Delete or rename Fi.ini and fisetup.log in x:\os2\install, then
reinstall the latest FeatureInstall.
It works at my System.

Regards

--
Christoph Vogt
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 10:46:28
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

I have found that I m getting a slew of "CRC mismatch" error messages when I
try to verify backups
that were made using BA/2 Pro ver. 4.0i with the tape drive connected to my
on-board Adaptec SCSI
interface (on an Asus P2B-LS motherboard). I can still get error-free reads of
tapes that were written
with the same tape drive connected to the SCSI port of a SoundBlaster card
(which is now in my son's
computer).

I recall having read that many people with AHA2940UW and similar boards were
keeping their older SCSI
cards expressly for use with a tape drive. It looks as if I will have to put
in a separate card for
the tape drive too.

Alan Beagley


[e-mail] wrote:

> In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-WIdVCvjmOdTd@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:
> >On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:33:34, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> >> Many adaptec controllers require 3 terminators.  Sounds stupid, defies
> >> specification, but gets rid of a lot of problems.  The "errors" are a
> >> signal problem on the cable.
>
> >How do you get 3 terminators on the bus, when there are only supposed
> >to be two ends????
> >
> >No wonder you have so many problems...
> >******************************
> >From the PC of Doug Bissett
>
> Maybe he has one of these newfangled Adaptec on-board creatures or the
> card version.  The on board one has two 68 pin connectors and two 50 pin
> connectors as well!
>
> The later card has two 68 pin connectors and one 50 pin connector for
> the inside cables.  It also has an external cable port.
>
> We've got working operations on the Adaptec 2940UW and 2940UW Pro cards.
> We have failed to get any combination of the on-board Adaptec chipset
> deal to recognize the BA/2 stuff.  At this point, we are also having a
> failure on the later model plug in card with the two 68 pin ports
> internally..
>
> We discovered we, indeed, had to use external termination on the end of
> the ribbon for a WD 9.18 GB drive.  You could low level prep it, proof
> it and even tape restore it fully, but the controller wouldn't stop
> squawking about "improper termination..", until we, indeed used a
> passive (or active!) terminator on the end of the cable and put the
> drive inboard of it!
>
> And just think!  Now we have 80 pinners too!
>
> Now that he has mentioned what he has, I've got to go back and try the
> stunt to cable and/or terminate some other ports, as well as the one we
> are using..  It just might be that this silly extraneous termination
> that he is suggesting ... just could be the 'fix' needed.
>
> Yes, I realize all this shouldn't be.  Kind of like the bumble bee.
> Aerodynamically, it ain't safe to fly, but tell that to a hive of killer
> bees in South Texas nowdaze!
>
> --> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)
>
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                            07-Oct-99 15:44:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>
writes:


>I have found that I m getting a slew of "CRC mismatch" error messages when
>I try to verify backups that were made using BA/2 Pro ver. 4.0i with the
>tape drive connected to my on-board Adaptec SCSI >interface (on an Asus
>P2B-LS motherboard). I can still get error-free reads of tapes that were
>written >with the same tape drive connected to the SCSI port of a
>SoundBlaster card (which is now in my son's computer).

This is a part of about an hour-long session on the phone with BA/2 ..

We couldn't even get the driver for BBSCSI.ADD to even see the
OS2SCSI.DMD load in any possible configuration we tried of an either
auto-loaded and made set of BA/2 rebuild disks, nor in any hand created
set of them either.

In sheer frustration I called BA/2.  They were extremely helpful and, so
far, insightful ..  I've avoided posting the comments made to me here up
to now, but this looks like the place ->

                (standing in front of the cliff!)

We are a Warp 4 and FP8 level.  That's the only one we have found that
seems to cure all our problems and doesn't create specific new ones
which we can't live with, plus is Y2K compliant, as far as we can tell.

It is also the one at which the IDE and SCSI drivers .. note the
emphasis here .. *SEEM* to be good for at least up to 8GB IDE hard
drives and 8GB or, in our case, larger, SCSI drives.

We have always used the 2940UW conroller cards - never the on-board
Adaptec SCSI chipset and BIOS ...

We hit a brick wall with these.

BA/2 told me .. "We would suggest that you stop trying to use the
on-board Adaptec controller setup.  It seem full of bugs, as far as
we have been able to determine.  We think you are just wasting your time
trying to use them."

I made some comment about the FP8 level of the AIC7870.ADD;

     AIC7870.ADD       40,846 09-02-98 11:39

that was part of FP8 being 'clean.'

BA/2 told me .. "It's full of bugs."  They furnished AIC7870.ADD;

     AIC7870.ADD      134,280 17-09-99 17:20

for test purposes.


Bottom line.  I finally was able to get enough space cleared out of the
utility disk number 1, (I think this is the correct one from memory), to
get this much larger AIC7870.ADD loaded.  It failed to operate either
the new embedded controller setup *OR* the older 2940UW card controller.
That may have been because of some error we had.  It *ALSO* could have
been because of a flap over supposedly needed extra termination for the
WD 9.18GB SCSI hard disk!  At the time of the last visit to the client's
shop, we didn't know about that flap either.

Sub - bottom line.

The only way we have currently been able to effect a complete CLREST
operational restore is to do what I posted in the first go around on
this.  It, to date, has required either the 2940UW card controller or
the 2940UW Pro card controller ...

      ...  *AND*   ....  either an active or passive SCSI terminator
      or other terminated device, such as the tape drive with a
      68 pin cable to 50 pin device adapter on the Seagate Scorpion
      8GB DAT drive which holds the backup media.

      If you have the terminator in place, you can either terminate
      the WD drive, or disable termination; it still apparently
      works.  As a professional note .. I personally removed the
      on-device termination on the WD drive once we terminated the
      cable is some other manner.  In theory, I don't want to
      further impede progress - pun intended..

So said, the 2940UW is extinct.  The 2940UW Pro is extincting, it only
smells dead now.  I doo time 'twill be.  :)

All 'uns wantin cussins will 'ave to double-time step to the UW2 waltz.

     Chuckle.  However ...

To date .. we have been unable to make the even later Adaptec 2940UW2
card work either.  However, the client shop is a TDY run from me.  I
have not yet been able to go down there and try an octopus termination
and cable stunt on this controller to see it that 'fixes' the problem,
either with the old AIC7870.ADD driver ... or the furnished test one
from the good folks at BA/2..


Therefore.. to date.. bottom line ...

>I recall having read that many people with AHA2940UW and similar boards were
keeping their older SCSI
>cards expressly for use with a tape drive. It looks as if I will have to put
in a separate card for
>the tape drive too.
>
>Alan Beagley

this admonishment seems a valid admonishion, me compadre..

When I find out more, I'll post it..  I'm wondering how all this fares
with SYMBIOS, if anyone has any experience and is still reading by this
time ..  sigh ....


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                         07-Oct-99 18:31:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 14:41:21
Subj: Re: Need Xfree Help!

From: Anssi Saari <[e-mail]>

"Gail Koontz" <[e-mail]> writes:

> I posted this first in comp.os.os2.setup.misc, because I thought that was
the right spot, but
> no one has replied, so I'm trying again.

The mailing list is a possibility, see
http://borneo.gmd.de/~veit/os2/xf86mail.html.

> Using WARP 4, I installed Xfree 3.3.5 over 3.3.2, which was working (at
least
> to the extent of getting the window manager loaded and having things like
the
> clock running). Now I get a gray screen with an X in it and nothing
> else.

What does that mean exactly, "nothing else"? It can sometimes take a
long time after the "gray screen with an X" is displayed for
everything else to start up. Other than that, I guess you could try
giving the "noaccel" option to the server or go back to 3.3.2 since it
worked or maybe try the VGA server to see if that works.

--
Anssi Saari - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 09:31:15
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 16:38:27
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>

My answers/responses to all who've responded thus
far (thanks for your comments/suggestions):

1. Felmon Davis:  I don't have 4os2, so it's
unrelated to that.
2. Arjen Meijer:  No, I don't even get a SYS 3175
message, just the "cup of coffee" still-life...
3. Max Stempfhuber:  Feature Install might be the
problem -- I obtained it in an earlier install
effort, but it now resides on a different logical
drive in its own directory tree
(E:\features\fisetup); should it reside on same
drive as the one I'm using to install Java on?
(Sorry if this seems an elementary question, but you
know how it is when one becomes all mixed up!)
4. Bostjan Vilfan: no references to Java11 are in my
Config.sys; the install never got that far!
5. Peter de Bruijn: No, I don't even get buttons
below the cup of coffee (I suppose this probably
relates to the Feature Install files being on a
different logical drive).

Thanks for your help/concern.  I'm going to place
the Feature Install tree onto the F: drive (where
I'm trying to install Java) and see if it goes.  (If
you don't hear from me, then I will have succeeded.)





"M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn" wrote:

> You don't get buttons to push below that cup?

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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 10:05:22
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 16:38:27
Subj: Acrobat Reader 4.0

From: James Stotz <[e-mail]>

Does anybody know when adobe will release (*if*) Acroread 4.0.  The Java
beta version is still a little flakey.

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Oct-99 17:41:13
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 16:38:27
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> DreckBak is at: http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/dreckbak.html and QF
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?dir=/pub/os2/system/patches/fixpack

Thanks. Teetering on the road to recovery. I got the old Netscape back
alive, and I'm still at the GA level. Now let's see if I can figure out
the CDRW business!

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Oct-99 18:16:26
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Maul DTP for OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Esther Schindler <[e-mail]> writes:
> On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:09:56, Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> | Speaking of DTP, has anyone tried MAUL????
>
> I just downloaded it a couple of days ago. I'm thinking of reviewing
> it for extended attributes.

It's confusing for me, with no background in DTP. I have a hard time
figuring out what the docs mean, and I have not done anything serious with
it.

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 19:03:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: SmartCache

From: [e-mail] (Hardy Griech)

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 14:06:40 GMT,
[e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:
:
> I think there's something else that Junkbuster can do with "secure" sites
> that SCache doesn't, though. SCache doesn't cache or block anything with
> "https://" URLs, and maybe JB does?
:

JB doesn't cache at all and it simply bypasses anything with https://.
So no difference compared to SCache.

Hardy

--
VSoup Homepage:                       http://home.pages.de/~vsoup/

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From: [e-mail]                                    07-Oct-99 18:01:27
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc)

Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> You need to get a newer driver for the card. I think all ESS cards suffer
> from this problem and it has been reported to them. Application of later
> Warp 4 fixpacks breaks the drivers to the extent that they TRAP OS/2.

The card was pre-installed and came with a set of drivers dated 1997. I
will try those again. But does it mean that the fixpacks overwrite those
drivers and that I will have to re-install them again? I don't remember a
place in the fixpack installation that allows to bypass a specific driver.

Pierre
--
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 11:02:07
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: Chuck Davis <[e-mail]>

Probably wishful thinking -- but never underestimate IBM's ability to sniff
out MONEY for the shareholders!!!

Chuck

postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
>    at 08:49 AM, Chuck Davis <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >If we want OS/2 to remain viable we have to give IBM some money that they
> >don't have to pass along to MS.  We can do that through Software Choice.
>
> I don't know if this entire article is wishful thinking or right on the
> mark.
>
> It sounds plausible, but then again.....
>
> --
> GK
>
> FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
> OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
> There are 31 Processes with 125 Threads.
> This machine's uptime is 4d 12h 42m 42s 976ms.

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From: [e-mail]                       07-Oct-99 18:55:03
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail] (Ross Inman)

 I use an Adaptec card (2949UW) and the aic78u2 driver without any problem
 Use BA/2 to backup 2 18gb SCSI drives to SCSI jaz drives.
 The only thing that I dont like is that on a reboot, when the Adaptec stuff
 first comes up (I guess before any OS/2 comes into action) there is a 2 min
 delay, without any drive activity, before anything starts to happen.

                                    Cheers     Ross Inman


 Ross  B.  Inman
   Institute for Molecular Virology
   University of Wisconsin-Madison
   1525 Linden Drive
   Madison,  Wisconsin   53706  USA

 Phone:   608   262- 9881
 FAX:     608   262-7414
 E-mail:  [e-mail]
 WWWeb:   http://phage.bocklabs.wisc.edu/
 FTP:     phage.bocklabs.wisc.edu  (anonymous OK)
 Talk:    [e-mail]

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From: PeterSAthotmailCom                                07-Oct-99 19:39:06
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: PeterSAthotmailCom

Hello,

just tried to create an new document of type database.
The "Type" listbox lists DBase, DB2, JDBC, text, but not Starbase.
This is different in the WindowsVersion of StarOffice.
Is there really no Starbase included?

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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 19:39:14
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (Edward Germain)

Help, me, too!

At the bottom of the screen under the coffee and donuts it says
"Resolving Feature Install Variable."  Then the system hangs with an
access violation in "Install.dll."

I SHOULD have Feature Install 1.25 installed.  I deleted my old one,
and have typed FISETUP.  That didn't say much, but did "update my
desktop" in some way.  No "Congratulations, it's installed" or
anything like that, though.

I, too am puzzled.

Can anyone help us through this problem?

I'm at FP 11.

--Ed Germain

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 02:42:45, "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I've lost count of the times I have not been
> successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
> unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
>
> Every effort has produced a screen (after the
> whirling globe) that is titled "Installation" and
> contains nothing more than a pretty picture of a cup
> of coffee and a couple of donuts.  No appearance or
> any hint of the "follow the steps from there".
>
> After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
> for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?
>

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Oct-99 19:48:00
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Netscape:  long cache Cleanup times  ?Fix

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:19:47, "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Sounds like good advice, but where does one get
> Smart Cache?
>

http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

It doesn't seem to say it, but I am pretty sre you need an HPFS
partition to use SmartCache.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 19:55:24
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (Edward Germain)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:35:17, "Arjen Meijer"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:
>
> If I am correct you get a Sys3175 in install.dll.  Please confirm using the
file popup.log.
>

You are certainly correct about what I get.  I can't figure it out.  I
DO have Feature Install 1.25 installed; its log tells me the
installation is fine.  But just before I get the SYS 3175 error, I see
at the bottom of the Netscape screen the msg "Resolving Feature
Install Variable".

And then everything dies.

Do you understand what is happening here?

--ed germain

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Oct-99 19:47:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Fp12 and default fonts

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:55:12, [e-mail] (Martin
Racette) wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I installed FP12 yesterday (Tuesday),
> and since then the default fonts for the
> message and dialog box are all bigger
> than they were before, is it a bug with
> this FP?
>
> BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
> G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
> had no problem of this kind before
>
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> http://205.237.57.73/
>
> ICQ #48552954

I have an S3 adapter, and yes some of the fonts needed adjusting
(System Setup-> Font Pallet and drag the desired font to the place
where you want it changed, in most cases) . FP12 did replace some of
the font files (they look better IMO).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: [e-mail]                               07-Oct-99 19:21:04
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:03
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader 4.0

From: [e-mail] (Esther Schindler)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:05:45, James Stotz <[e-mail]> wrote:

| Does anybody know when adobe will release (*if*) Acroread 4.0.  The Java
| beta version is still a little flakey.

I was told by an Adobe insider that the company has no plans to
release a new OS/2 version of the reader.

--Esther Schindler


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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 15:33:14
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

I've been communicating with the BA/2 people by e-mail. They also sent me a
different version of
AIC7870.ADD. but that dows not work with my board at all, which needs the
AIC78U2.ADD driver.

They have offered to send me a Symbios Logic-based PCI board to try, and I
think I will take them up on
that offer.

In the meantime, I am borrowing the ancient Trantor T130B card from my wife's
computer to see if I can get
an error-free backup and verify and move som files off my hard disk, which is
becoming so full it is
almost unusable.

The trouble with the Trantor, of course, and with the old SoundBlaster SCSI,
is that they are ISA and
therefore consume an outrageous amount of CPU time.

[e-mail] wrote:

<snip>

> This is a part of about an hour-long session on the phone with BA/2 ..
>
> We couldn't even get the driver for BBSCSI.ADD to even see the
> OS2SCSI.DMD load in any possible configuration we tried of an either
> auto-loaded and made set of BA/2 rebuild disks, nor in any hand created
> set of them either.
>
> In sheer frustration I called BA/2.  They were extremely helpful and, so
> far, insightful ..  I've avoided posting the comments made to me here up
> to now, but this looks like the place ->
>
>                 (standing in front of the cliff!)
>
> We are a Warp 4 and FP8 level.  That's the only one we have found that
> seems to cure all our problems and doesn't create specific new ones
> which we can't live with, plus is Y2K compliant, as far as we can tell.
>
> It is also the one at which the IDE and SCSI drivers .. note the
> emphasis here .. *SEEM* to be good for at least up to 8GB IDE hard
> drives and 8GB or, in our case, larger, SCSI drives.
>
> We have always used the 2940UW conroller cards - never the on-board
> Adaptec SCSI chipset and BIOS ...
>
> We hit a brick wall with these.
>
> BA/2 told me .. "We would suggest that you stop trying to use the
> on-board Adaptec controller setup.  It seem full of bugs, as far as
> we have been able to determine.  We think you are just wasting your time
> trying to use them."
>
> I made some comment about the FP8 level of the AIC7870.ADD;
>
>      AIC7870.ADD       40,846 09-02-98 11:39
>
> that was part of FP8 being 'clean.'
>
> BA/2 told me .. "It's full of bugs."  They furnished AIC7870.ADD;
>
>      AIC7870.ADD      134,280 17-09-99 17:20
>
> for test purposes.
>
> Bottom line.  I finally was able to get enough space cleared out of the
> utility disk number 1, (I think this is the correct one from memory), to
> get this much larger AIC7870.ADD loaded.  It failed to operate either
> the new embedded controller setup *OR* the older 2940UW card controller.
> That may have been because of some error we had.  It *ALSO* could have
> been because of a flap over supposedly needed extra termination for the
> WD 9.18GB SCSI hard disk!  At the time of the last visit to the client's
> shop, we didn't know about that flap either.
>
> Sub - bottom line.
>
> The only way we have currently been able to effect a complete CLREST
> operational restore is to do what I posted in the first go around on
> this.  It, to date, has required either the 2940UW card controller or
> the 2940UW Pro card controller ...
>
>       ...  *AND*   ....  either an active or passive SCSI terminator
>       or other terminated device, such as the tape drive with a
>       68 pin cable to 50 pin device adapter on the Seagate Scorpion
>       8GB DAT drive which holds the backup media.
>
>       If you have the terminator in place, you can either terminate
>       the WD drive, or disable termination; it still apparently
>       works.  As a professional note .. I personally removed the
>       on-device termination on the WD drive once we terminated the
>       cable is some other manner.  In theory, I don't want to
>       further impede progress - pun intended..
>
> So said, the 2940UW is extinct.  The 2940UW Pro is extincting, it only
> smells dead now.  I doo time 'twill be.  :)
>
> All 'uns wantin cussins will 'ave to double-time step to the UW2 waltz.
>
>      Chuckle.  However ...
>
> To date .. we have been unable to make the even later Adaptec 2940UW2
> card work either.  However, the client shop is a TDY run from me.  I
> have not yet been able to go down there and try an octopus termination
> and cable stunt on this controller to see it that 'fixes' the problem,
> either with the old AIC7870.ADD driver ... or the furnished test one
> from the good folks at BA/2..
>
> Therefore.. to date.. bottom line ...
>
> >I recall having read that many people with AHA2940UW and similar boards
were keeping their older SCSI
> >cards expressly for use with a tape drive. It looks as if I will have to
put in a separate card for
> >the tape drive too.
> >
> >Alan Beagley
>
> this admonishment seems a valid admonishion, me compadre..
>
> When I find out more, I'll post it..  I'm wondering how all this fares
> with SYMBIOS, if anyone has any experience and is still reading by this
> time ..  sigh ....

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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 20:34:20
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: trouble with DeScribe and PS printer driver

From: Jack Roberts <[e-mail]>

hello,
i've been trying to get DeScribe to work with the PostScript printer
driver so i can try out some of the PDF creation programs that i've seen
lately.  unfortunately, when i have the PS printer set up, DeScribe
freezes my computer when i start it.  i thought that maybe it was a
problem with the port i had the printer set to, since i don't actually
have a printer, but it didn't work on LPT1, LPT2, LPT3 or when set to
write to a file.  then i tried backing out my system from FP12 to FP9,
but this didn't help either.  I'm planning on putting FP12 back on, and
trying to find a more recent printer driver (the one i had was from
warp4 GA or FP9 if it came with one) and try again, but if anybody else
out there has a tip, i'd love to hear it.
thanks for any info!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 21:34:08
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <[e-mail]>

On 7 Oct 1999 18:01:55 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

->> You need to get a newer driver for the card. I think all ESS cards suffer
->> from this problem and it has been reported to them. Application of later
->> Warp 4 fixpacks breaks the drivers to the extent that they TRAP OS/2.
->
->The card was pre-installed and came with a set of drivers dated 1997. I
->will try those again. But does it mean that the fixpacks overwrite those
->drivers and that I will have to re-install them again? I don't remember a
->place in the fixpack installation that allows to bypass a specific driver.

No. The problem is that the 1997 driver has a bug in it. It doesn't affect
anything until you apply the later fixpacks at which point it blows up.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
([e-mail] or [e-mail])



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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 21:57:29
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:21:04, "L. Mark Stone"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> > >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> > >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> > >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> > >>notebook.

See if you can find a copy of vshare.386 and change system.ini like
this-

[386Enh]

other stuff

device=vshare.386



                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 21:57:21
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 20:07:04
Subj: Re: trouble with DeScribe and PS printer driver

From: [e-mail] (Chris Hall)

In <7tj050$8v7$[e-mail]>, Jack Roberts <[e-mail]> writes:
>hello,
>i've been trying to get DeScribe to work with the PostScript printer
>driver so i can try out some of the PDF creation programs that i've seen
>lately.  unfortunately, when i have the PS printer set up, DeScribe
>freezes my computer when i start it.  i thought that maybe it was a
>problem with the port i had the printer set to, since i don't actually
>have a printer, but it didn't work on LPT1, LPT2, LPT3 or when set to
>write to a file.  then i tried backing out my system from FP12 to FP9,
>but this didn't help either.  I'm planning on putting FP12 back on, and
>trying to find a more recent printer driver (the one i had was from
>warp4 GA or FP9 if it came with one) and try again, but if anybody else
>out there has a tip, i'd love to hear it.
>thanks for any info!

Jack:

I doubt the problem is with Describe (prints here to postscript with no
problems).
Much more likely is the printer object you created. Does it have a ps printer
driver as its default driver? I use Apple laserwriter as a generic ps output.
Also, you might as well not select any port, but check the option to output
to a file. I have just such a printer object and it creates ps files from
Describe
which can then be converted to pdf using gs, so it can be done!

Chris Hall  ([e-mail])
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 15:35:26
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Apache 1.3.9 and SMP Problem

From: "Robert Gehrig" <[e-mail]>

Anyone out there tried Apache 1.3.9 on a SMP machine.

I have and I can't get it to work. I keep getting a 'too many files open'
error, when I access a cgi counter

The machine I have it on is a Dual Pentium Pro 200MHz with 256Meg Ram

I have Warp Server Advanced SMP on it.

I have applied all the fixes from the WarpUp CD

I have EMX 0.9d fix4 installed.

I have EMXOPT=-h256 in my config.sys


Any suggestions on how to get it to work.

Thanks

Robert Gehrig
[e-mail]

Brought to you by the letters O and S and the number 2



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From: [e-mail]                                   07-Oct-99 22:48:13
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Word6 CBT trick

From: "Rob Burton" <[e-mail]>

Anybody know how to get the Word 6 tutorials to install and run in Win-OS2? I
heard there was a trick, but I can't find it, and they won't go now.

On 7 Oct 1999 21:57:58 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:

|On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:21:04, "L. Mark Stone"
|<[e-mail]> wrote:
|
|> > >>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about
requiring
|> > >>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several
years
|> > >>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
|> > >>notebook.
|
|See if you can find a copy of vshare.386 and change system.ini like
|this-
|
|[386Enh]
|
|other stuff
|
|device=vshare.386
|
|
|
|                      email: [e-mail]
|



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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            07-Oct-99 17:46:20
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader 4.0

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
   at 10:05 AM, James Stotz <[e-mail]> said:

>Does anybody know when adobe will release (*if*) Acroread 4.0.  The Java
>beta version is still a little flakey.

To my knowledge, there are no plans at all to offer a 4.0 release for OS/2.


--
GK

FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 30 Processes with 121 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 5d 9h 40m 57s 132ms.


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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            07-Oct-99 17:47:11
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
   at 11:02 AM, Chuck Davis <[e-mail]> said:

>Probably wishful thinking -- but never underestimate IBM's ability to
>sniff out MONEY for the shareholders!!!

You know, there's nothing wrong with that either.

If it works in our favor for OS/2, then all the better.

I hope you're right.

--
GK

FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 30 Processes with 121 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 5d 9h 41m 39s 484ms.


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From: [e-mail]                                    06-Oct-99 06:55:02
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <[e-mail]>,
John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Yes, it is corrupt.  The program works fine using the old 1.10 help file.
>
>I got the zip file from the pillarsoft site, and it tests OK, so I think
>the file itself is corrupt.  I've asked for a new version of EEE.HLP, but
>have note received it yet.

FYI .... Wayne Swanson (Pillarsoft) has been VERY busy for the past 5
or 6 months .... only getting home on weekends. You'll have to forgive
him  if he doesn't respond  immediately.

He's the Vice President  of VOICE ... and he  doesn't respond to my
e-mail, either <g>

I'll mention it to him this weekend and see if he's aware of the
problem. If any of you are planning on attending Warpstock 99, he'll
be there.

--
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*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
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From: [e-mail]                         08-Oct-99 00:03:14
  To: All                                               07-Oct-99 21:23:27
Subj: Re: Fp12 and default fonts

From: [e-mail] (Martin Racette)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:47:33,
[e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte) wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:55:12, [e-mail] (Martin Racette)
> wrote:
>
> > BTW. My video card is a Matrox Mullenium
> > G200, with the 2.31.100 drivers, and I
> > had no problem of this kind before
>
> Didn't happen here with the G200. You know you can change the default
> system font in the Matrox MGA  Settings object?
>
> ----------------------
> Bruce LaZerte
> Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
> freshwat at muskoka dot com

I do know but this will also change the
size of the window, which I don't want
to change, I just want to get back to
the default font: "System Proportionale
12", which is what still appears in the
"MGA Setting" notebook

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

ICQ #48552954

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From: [e-mail]                                      08-Oct-99 01:39:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader 4.0

From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])

That was known a long, long time ago, and official word.

Esther Schindler? ([e-mail]?) wrote (7 Oct 1999 19:21:09 GMT):
>I was told by an Adobe insider that the company has no plans to
>release a new OS/2 version of the reader.

 '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
 Corne1 Huth  -  http://40th.com/
 Bullet database engines/servers 3.1  Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

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From: [e-mail]                            08-Oct-99 01:42:06
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>
writes:


>I've been communicating with the BA/2 people by e-mail. They also sent me a
different version of
>AIC7870.ADD. but that dows not work with my board at all, which needs the
AIC78U2.ADD driver.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------^^^^
^^^^^^^

  Aha!  Insite!  I have not had an opportunity to actually try any driver
  furnished with this card..  Someone else threw up their hands in
  disumgust and said 'I kvit!'

I wonder if THAT is what it takes to drive the on-board 7970 Adaptec
chipset which is a part of the ASUS motherboard??

Inquisitive old foggie wants to know!


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                    08-Oct-99 02:13:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: trouble with DeScribe and PS printer driver

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Jack Roberts ([e-mail]) wrote:
: hello,
: i've been trying to get DeScribe to work with the PostScript printer
: driver so i can try out some of the PDF creation programs that i've seen
: lately.

    Have you tried saving the file as a Postscript document?  It's
one of the listed filters, that is, if you installed that particular
filter.

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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 19:26:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: True Spectra Graphics

From: "Frank Rusko" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 00:53:10 GMT, Michel A Goyette wrote:

>Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:04:11, [e-mail] (Peter
>Moylan) a ┌crit:
>
>> This is going to sound like an awfully stupid question, but I'm stumped.
>>
>> I downloaded and installed the program.  They sent me the registration
>> key.  What next?  I've read the entire manual, and can't find any
>> way to apply the registration key to the program.
>
>    Right-click (or press F12) on the drawing area.  Choose "Unlock now".
> Good luck.
>
>Salut,
>
>    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
>    ICQ #13376913
>    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede


Hello Michel

I did just that and it is still doing a daily countdown. This is
despite the fact that it "thanks me for registering the
product".

Do you know it this does register the product?

Thanks in advance




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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 21:55:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
   at 12:49 PM, Tony Wright <[e-mail]> said:

>So if one has to expend some imponderable effort anyway I'm seriously
>wondering whether to evaluate other alternative ISP's before commencing
>the "pain" of changing IBM > ATTGLOBAL.
>The majority of other ISP's appear cheaper anyway although I don't know
>whether multi accounts, access reliability/speed can be comparable to
>IBM's former and presumably AT&T's quality/performance?.

I just ordered a DSL line.  Will let you know when it is installed and how
it works.

Roland

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                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52
                            For a Microsoft free univers
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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 22:51:06
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: [e-mail] (John Brock)

In article <uHM7v1cwBWpr-pn2-XcKfbMIl0u5H@mieko>,  <PeterSAthotmailCom> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>just tried to create an new document of type database.
>The "Type" listbox lists DBase, DB2, JDBC, text, but not Starbase.
>This is different in the WindowsVersion of StarOffice.
>Is there really no Starbase included?

I was wondering the same thing.  But with a little poking around I
discovered File -> New -> Database -- which allows you to create
databases -- so Starbase must be in there somewhere, even though there
is no icon for new databases on the StarOffice desktop.  It appears
that native Starbase format is simply dBase, although you are also
given the option of DB2, JDBC, ODBC, and Text.

I have to say that the StarOffice on-line documentation truly *SUX*!
Am I missing something, or is there really no searchable help?!?
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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 21:51:29
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
   at 11:00 AM, "Maximilian Stempfhuber" <[e-mail]> said:

>On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:

>>I've lost count of the times I have not been
>>successful in installing the runtime version (w/o
>>unicode) of Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice.
>[...]
>>After dinking around and re-re-re-reading the Readme
>>for install, I am still baffled.  Can anyone help?

>Did you install the latest FeatureInstall (1.25) plugin?

>Regards


The problem is you downloaded and unzipped ALL the files.  It doesn't
work.  I forget the magic combination, but it is listed in the doc.
Ultimately I installed Unicode.  If you unzip both the Unicode and the
non-unicode files they step on each other and nothing works.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

Roland


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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 21:47:24
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 06:21 PM, "Thomas A. Heller" <[e-mail]> said:

>(Roland) a.k.a. [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>{snip}
>> Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
>> complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
>> weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before
>> posting a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has
>> been posted multiple times.

>May I "sound off" on this?  I find the above was
>expressed in a rather arrogant, not very helpful and
>entirely unwarranted manner.  It certainly could
>have been offered as constructive advice, if only a
>moment's thought --and consideration-- were
>employed.

>I've been reading (and learning from) this newsgroup
>for almost a month and have observed that a few
>contributors seem to believe this newsgroup is like
>a post-graduate seminar that "belong" only to
>individuals who are at the pinnacle of OS/2 use,
>knowledge and experience.  While that may be true
>(thankfully) for a sizable number of those who post
>here, newsgroup readers and contributors must always
>be cognizant that unravelling the
>mysteries/complexities of OS/2 by oneself is not a
>piece of cake.

>"Help me" postings are to be expected from newsgroup
>readers -- and should not be greeted with contempt
>or derision.  People can _and do_ learn from their
>mistakes.  Let's not be so snide as to intimidate
>others who can benefit from our knowledge.

Sound off all you want.

The "help me" post wasn't greeted as you stated.

It was the "tort" which followed that was.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 21:36:06
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-WIdVCvjmOdTd@localhost>, on 10/06/99
   at 04:37 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:33:34, [e-mail] wrote:

>> Many adaptec controllers require 3 terminators.  Sounds stupid, defies
>> specification, but gets rid of a lot of problems.  The "errors" are a
>> signal problem on the cable.
>>
>> Roland
>>

>How do you get 3 terminators on the bus, when there are only supposed  to
>be two ends????

>No wonder you have so many problems...

Doug,

Allow me to dry behind your ears a little here.

When you have both internal and external SCSI devices on the "same"
cable/logic bus you have 2 ends and a controller.  "Cheaper" quality cards
(I don't use Adaptec anymore because of this and other reasons) require
termination enabled at both cable ends AND on the controller (via the
software) in order to work.  Eventhough all the devices appear under a
single controller and as far as the driver is concerned a single SCSI BUS,
it is not a single PHYSICAL SCSI BUS.  There in lies the rub.

Some devices I've seen cause this problem (especially on Adaptec cards)
were the 535 CD-ROM drive which originally shipped with the
Visually-Impared C++ 1.0 compiler, and a flatbed scanner I
own...(Microteck I think...haven't used it in years).

The problem will surface as spastic write errors while writing to the
writable devices.  Periodically the devices will go "off-line".  Enabling
termination on the controller seems to solve the problem.

I haven't encountered the problem with Wide SCSI-III, but haven't been
using Adaptec controllers since long before that.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 20:26:09
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <7tfof4$t1b$[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 03:05 PM, Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]> said:

>In article <37f95a25$2$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news-
>s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>  [e-mail] wrote:


>Roland, you quite probably have a lot of useful information to offer. You
>were even somewhat helpful to me in this thread.  The problem is that you
>have such an unreasoning anger burning inside you that you can't seem to
>convey that information without surrounding it in highly emotional, and
>completely irrelevant, ranting.  As a result, anything useful you might
>have to say gets lost or ignored.

The usefull information was contained in the threads you didn't care to
read.

>Now, I'm not suggesting that you don't have a reason for being angry, but
>that your anger has made it so *you* are no longer rational about this
>issue.  You lash out wildly and angrily at any mention of BA/2 and few
>people seem to pay any attention to you.  Any sensible points you might
>make, and any legitimate concerns you might have, get totally lost
>because it's nearly impossible to separate what is valid from what is
>irrational.

The posts are completely rational and juding from the repeated requests
for the backup test criterea I received after the postings seem to
disprove your assumptions that they are not read.  I actually wish I had
entered the test scripts into electronic form because I've had to email
them out sooo many times.  Want to know the honest truth.  Of those that
actually run the tests and respond to me stating that BA/2 didn't make the
cut.

>problems you've had with BA/2 are looming larger in your life (on these
>newsgroups, not in general) than they warrant.  People can't benefit from
>your experiences if you can't convey them in a way to which they'll
>listen.  And not many people are listening to you.

>Consider what your goal here is.  If all you want is to spew emotional
>whinges about BA/2 and you don't care if anyone listens, then your
>strategy is working, and by all means, continue.  But if, on the other
>hand, you are trying to influence people (or at least help them to
>benefit from your experiences), your strategy is failing, and you lose
>your audience every time.

My "strategy" has worked flawlessly.  Dozens, if not hundreds or thousands
have read these messages.  You will notice that the makers of this product
no longer Spam the newsgroup with "we walk on water" marketing fraud.
This in itself is a monumental raising of the newsgroups caliber.

The informed consumer peruses newsgroup archives to find out if a product
has ANY products before purchasing.  No purchasor should take the word of
another when making their decisions.  Period.  They should look for test
conditions designed to excersize the failure points of the software
product then test several products for those points of failure purchasing
the one which works.

No "vendor" of shot-ware is going to tell you the conditions under which
their product fails prior to purchase.  They will not give you test
conditions which point out obvious design flaws.  You must determine those
for yourselves from test conditions gleened from news groups and other
sources.

To understand my testing and opinions of software you have to understand
that I'm a consultant of many years.  Over the course of those years I've
worked in a lot of environments and seen a lot of products which were
failures before the first line of code was ever written.  One of my
clients in the past was a manufacturer of valves and control systems for
nuclear power plants.  To this day I still design and test with the
testing mantra they instilled in all their developers "If this fails,
people lose their lives".  I do not believe in the "live and let live"
motto when it comes to vendors that ship a product after the first screen
manages to come up.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 22:00:07
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
   at 03:44 PM, [e-mail] said:



>When I find out more, I'll post it..  I'm wondering how all this fares
>with SYMBIOS, if anyone has any experience and is still reading by this
>time ..  sigh ....

Find either a SIIG or BusLogic SCSI controller.  They work.

Roland

P.S.  BusLogic now has new identity...don't remember what the company is.


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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 20:22:10
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail]

In <7tfkip$pn2$[e-mail]>, on 10/06/99
   at 01:58 PM, Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]> said:

>In article <37f95a25$2$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news-
>s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>  [e-mail] wrote:

>> >Your objections have been noted and given the consideration they
>deserve,
>> >taking into account the language and detail level provided.
>>
>> >Thank you for taking time to answer my question and I do appreciate
>the
>> >one piece of information you gave that wasn't drenched in puerile
>> >whinging.
>>
>> Perhaps then you will search the news group archives at Dejanews for
>> complete threads containing test, results spanning a 72 hour intense
>> weekend evaluation of backup products and where they fail, before
>posting
>> a forlorne message expecting everyone to re-hash what has been posted
>> multiple times.

>Awww, I expected better.  I *did* read the particular thread to which you
>allude.  I *did* do research on the subject, and I do recall people
>discussing methods for backing up everything.

>If you'd bother to read my original note, you'll see that I mentioned it.
>I also mentioned that, after having done some searching, I was having a
>hard time finding the specific posts in question, seeing as the threads
>in question were very long and full of a lot of different topics.

>I wasn't looking for a philosophical debate, I was looking for a short,
>sweet explanation of the specific method I should use because the threads
>I researched didn't offer me that.  Fortnately the others around here who
>are actually interested in providing ASSISTANCE understood my dilemma
>without my having to spell it out in excruciating detail as I did above,
>so I got the help I needed, and then some.

>So bugger off you bitter, whiny, little man.

I did read your message fully before responding and it was aparent that
after you looked at one or two messages decided to regurgitate the
question yet another time for personal stroking.

Thanks for proving once again that no matter how deficient in chromosomes
a life form calling itself human is that it will expect the entire world
to adapt to suit its needs rather than learn to survive and adapt to the
world.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 20:19:21
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: OS/2 hangs when printing from WordPro 1.1 to HPLJ

From: [e-mail]

In <KBotDFRHSp7U-pn2-snp1QSPzjdsp@localhost>, on 10/06/99
   at 06:29 AM, [e-mail] (Jan Eri) said:


>> Force your LPT port to its highest setting in your system BIOS. Power
>> everything (including your printer) off, then reboot all. Be sure you DO

>What do you mean here? Highest possible timeout setting?

The BIOS for my notebook allows LPT1 to be set to Standard,
Bi-directional, EPP, and ECP.  The highest performance setting being ECP.

Roland

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From: [e-mail]                     07-Oct-99 20:11:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In <7tc5ub$e8i$[e-mail]>, on 10/05/99
   at 02:30 AM, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) said:

IBM kissed off over 60% of the OS/2 user base with FP 12.  You can't get
your soundcard back and they have no intention of fixing it.  Unless you
can read the chip numbers and find the manufacturer you are screwed.
Actually, you are still screwed.  ESS has moved on to greater sound chips
and hasn't updated the OS/2 driver for the 1869 since 1997.  They have no
plans to.  They have moved onto chips with higher margins and greater
capabilities.

Give IBM a big round of applause for finally killing OS/2.

Roland

>Trevor Hemsley <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>> The driver for an ESS 1869 soundcard. Use Alt+F1 to boot up to a command
>> prompt then use TEDIT to REM out the line that refers to it
>> (ESS1869.SYS?).

>I had to use the installation floppies to get a command prompt, the
>system was crashing before it got to the prompt when coming from the hard
>disk.

>Anyway, I REM'd the two lines with the offending string and the system
>boots. How do I get my sound card back? It's a no-name clone without
>manual...

>Incidentally, I discovered that when booting from floppies the third one
>seems "locked" in the drive. If I put another floppy in the drive after I
>get the command prompt, a DIR still gives me the beginning of the listing
>for the diskette that was removed, not the one in the drive.

>Even worse, the TEDIT on diskette 1 "cannot be run in an OS/2 session".
>There's something very screwy going on! (The one in \OS2 on the hard
>drive  worked fine.)

>Pierre, still worried, and still without Netscape.

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 23:18:01
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: [e-mail] (John Brock)

In article <7tjm71$bqi$[e-mail]>, John Brock <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have to say that the StarOffice on-line documentation truly *SUX*!
>Am I missing something, or is there really no searchable help?!?

Well naturally the minute I post my article -- which will no doubt be
retrievable via DejaNews in the year 3000 -- I discover the searchable
help.  Man, how I miss the old-fashioned, linear, non-hypertext,
TableOfContents -> Page 1 -> Page N -> Index, read it from cover to
cover BOOK!!!
--
John Brock
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Oct-99 03:20:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (Craig Young)

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:55:49, [e-mail] (Edward Germain)
wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:35:17, "Arjen Meijer"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:
> >
> > If I am correct you get a Sys3175 in install.dll.  Please confirm using
the file popup.log.
> >
>
> You are certainly correct about what I get.  I can't figure it out.  I
> DO have Feature Install 1.25 installed; its log tells me the
> installation is fine.  But just before I get the SYS 3175 error, I see
> at the bottom of the Netscape screen the msg "Resolving Feature
> Install Variable".
>
> And then everything dies.
>
> Do you understand what is happening here?
>
> --ed germain

If it is any consolation, I am seeing EXACTLY the symptoms you report.
I am going to try some of the posted suggestions to see if they work.

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From: [e-mail]                    08-Oct-99 03:25:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: (1/2) Describe: A Blast from the Past

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

(Also posted to comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-pro)

                 DESCRIBE: A BLAST FROM THE PAST

    In my hands I am holding a PC Computing Magazine, dated
March of 1992.  Why this particular issue?  It had a review of
the, at the time, latest word processors.  Namely, Lotus AmiPro
2.0, WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows, and Microsoft Word 2.0.  The
first three are not really important here, as at the end of the
reviews they had a section on three high-end alternatives and
one of which was Describe 3.0 for Windows.  Incidentally, it looks
like the review of the big three really favored AmiPro more so
over Word or WordPerfect, go figure.  Anyways, the three high-end
alternatives were WordStar for Windows 1.0, Describe 3.0 and one
called Legacy 2.0 that I'd never heard of before.  Anyway, the
review of those three pretty much pegged Describe 3.0 as the best
one.  Cool, huh?
    You know, out of all the word processors that did not make
a big impact on the Windows side of things, the one that surprises
me the most is WordStar.  In the early DOS days, WordStar was the
defecto standard word processor until WordPerfect came along.  One
would have figured WordStar would've at least made some presense
felt under Windows (to the point where they would still be around
I mean).  I'm only saying this because I think one of my
Anthropology professors is using that under Windows 95 (I think
WordStar 7.0 for DOS).
    Anyhow, back to Describe 5.  I have all three flavors of it
installed (Windows 3.1, Windows 95, and OS/2).  The formatting is
identical between the three.  I made a test document that contained
an embedded graphic (BMP), table and footnote in it.  The document
came out identically on all three ends which is great.  Feature wise,
it appears, to me anyways, identical to WordPerfect 5.1 which is
more than adequete for a great deal of people.  It has all the
standard stuff that you'd expect from a word processor:

-Spellcheck/Thesaurus/Hyphenation
-Endnotes/Footnotes
-Columns
-Inserting Tables
-Inserting Graphics
-Inserting Mathmatical Equations
-Page Numbering
-Headers/Footers
-WYSISYG/Draft/Outline views
-Macros
-Bulleted/Numbered Lists
-Indents
-Drawing
-Customize Toolbar
-Envelopes

    It also has some more features that I have never really
relied on or even used (ie. TOC, Revision Marking, Glossaries,
Merging, and Labels).  Heck, Describe even has a dictionary giving
the definitions of words which is a little more than your simple spell
checker.  Only feature that is not found here that one would find
in other word processors of that calibre (ie. WordPerfect 6.1, Word
6.0c) is a chart maker.
    In a way, one can look at Describe Inc. getting right what
WordPerfect Corporation couldn't with their WordPerfect 5.1 for
Windows.  Pretty much all the reviews that I had looked at during
that time always had the reviewer being disappointed with WP51 for
Windows (which was WordPerfect Corporation's first time out in
making a Windows version).  Describe 5 is like WordPerfect 5.1 for
Windows, just without the bugs and also coming in OS/2, Windows 3.1,
Windows 95/NT flavors.  Y2K should not be an issue with Describe 5,
just like it is not an issue for WordPerfect 5.1+ for DOS.  Most, if
not all word processors simply use the operating system or BIOS in
order to display the date.  The office suite applications to watch
out for, however, would be spreadsheets and databases, as well as
personal information managers.  Word processors will not be a major
concern for Y2K issues.
    In importing graphics into the documents, it does have good
modern graphic support.  It can support JPEG's, but not GIF's, which
I found odd (Microsoft Word 6.0c I know was the otherway around,
supporting GIF's but not JPEG's).  Import/Export capability is quite
good, a *lot* of older legacy file formats are supported:

ASCII Text, COM.FORMAT, EBCDIC, DCA/RFT, DCA Revisable from Text,
Dec DX, DisplayWrite 3.0-5.0, Enable 1.1-2.15, Final Form Text,
FrameMaker (MIF), Framework III 1.0-1.1, Framework IV, GSA Navy DIF,
HP AdvanceWrite Plus, HP PCL, IBM Writing Assistent 1.0, Interleaf
Publisher ASCII, Legacy 1.x-2.0, Lotus 1-2-3 1A v2.0-v2.0, Lotus
AmiPro 1.2-3.0, Lotus Manuscript 2.0-2.1, MacWrite 4.5-5.0, MacWrite II
1.0-1.1, Mass 11 8.0-8.3, Microsoft Excel 2.1-3.0, Microsoft Word for
DOS 3.3-5.5, Microsoft Word for Mac 3.0-5.0, Microsoft Word for Windows
1.x-6.0, Microsoft Write 3.0-3.1, MultiMate 3.3-4.0, Navy DIF,
OfficeWriter 4.0-6.2, PeachText 5000 2.1, PFS: First Choice 1.0-3.0,
PFS: WRITE Version C, Postscript, Professional Write 1.0-2.21,
Professional Write Plus, Q&A Write 1.0-4.0, Rapid File 1.2, Rich Text
Format, Samna Word IV & IV Plus, Signature, Smart ASCII, Stripped ASCII,
Total Word 1.2-1.3, Uniplex onGo, Volkswriter Deluxe 2.2, Volkswriter 3.4,
Wang PC 3.0, WordPerfect for DOS/Windows 4.1-6.1, WordPerfect for
Mac 1.0-2.1, WordStar 3.3-7.0, WordStar 2000 release 3.0-3.5, WordStar
for Windows 1.x, XYWrite III & III Plus & IV, XYWrite for Windows 1.0

    Funny, the only one here that is not listed that had at least
some repute was Symantec's Just Write...anyone remember that one?  Now
I can not vouch for the quality of these filters.  I do know that the
WordPerfect 5.1 filter does a decent albeit unspectacular job, I loaded
up the print test document (should be located in your X:\WP51 directory
as PRINTER.TST), the document loaded up fairly well, save that the
equation never came out.  The picture and footnotes did as did most of
the text formatting.  The postscript filter did surprise me, though,
never expected to see that format listed since some of the "advanced"
word processors of today rarely have that, but it is of little
consequence anyways since anyone can make a postscript document by just
installing a postscript printer driver and having it set to save to
file for printout.
    Anyways, one particular item does surprise me is in the printing
options.  One can have the option to print or not to print the text,
graphics, background, etc. of a document.  Now, most word processors
have the option to print or not print the graphics, but few have the
option to do that with text.  Mind you, the work around for that was
simple since all one would have to do is change the text color to all
white, but still, it is surprising to see that feature here, yet not
on most of the "advanced" word processors.  Another printing option is
the use of doubled-sided printing which works regardless if your printer
supports it or not.  It's pretty cool, I've been using it a lot in order
to print off my notes from class.  Basically, it will print pages 1, 3,
5, etc. first, then a warning comes on the screen "prepare the printer
for next pass", in order for you to flip the pages of what has been
printed and re-insert them into the printer in order for the 2, 4, 6,
etc. to be printed off the existing pages.  This could be a problem for
those still using dot-matrix and daisey wheel printers, though, since
it would be a pain in the butt to flip the pages back.
    Describe 5 has no grammar checker, but if you are in
desperate need of one, then you can rely on a Windows 3.1 program
called Correct Grammar, distributed by SoftKey Publishing.  You
should be able to find it in a clearence bin somewhere, I picked
one up for only $4.95 CDN.  It runs well under Windows 3.1, Windows
95, and under OS/2's Win-OS/2 sessions.  I don't know if will work
under Windows NT, though.  It won't do native Describe format, so
there are two things you can do.  Copy the entire text into the
clipboard and paste it into Correct Grammer or save the document
that you are working on into a text format and have Correct Grammer
load that text file up, then you can make a side by side comparision
as to whatever changes it offers.
    It can also add description information on the document
that you are working on.  Just like with the other word processors,
you can type in who the author is, a brief description of the
document, etc.  As well, it also keeps a statistical counter of the
document, stating when the document was first created, when it was
last revised, the total number of words, characters, and pages.  It
even keeps track of when it was last printed.
    The DDE or Dynamic Data Exchange functions like it would
under any other word processor.  With Corel Quattro Pro 8 for
Windows 95, I cut-and-pasted a chart that I had made into a Describe
document and sure enough it came out all right.  Just make sure you
remember which version of Describe you are using.  If I were to loadup
Describe 5 for OS/2, the document would appear correctly, except the
chart does not appear (the frame has a x-mark in it).  Load the
Windows 95 version of Describe up again, the chart is back.  Likewise,
if you were add a chart from IBM Works (OS/2 application) in the same
manner to Describe, the samething would occur if you load that
document up with the Windows 95 version of Describe.  Cool thing is,
you can still work on that document and save it under either of the
platforms without any hindrence.  Just make sure you remember which
platform it was you stuck that Quattro Pro or IBM Works chart onto
when it came time to printing.
    All of that and more for a word processor only needing a
386 with 4 MB of RAM (documentation does recommend at least 2 extra
meg's though).  Not too shabby for a GUI-based word processor.  No,
it won't do HTML or produce SGML or PDF documents.  Well, okay you
can make PDF documents in a way.  Just save it as a Postscript
document and use a program like Ghostscript (freeware) in order to
convert the PS file over to PDF.  But the point is, it will be
difficult for most people to try and find a Windows 95 word
processor without the bloat that plagues most people that have
features that they simply will never use.  True, you can use most
Windows 3.1 word processors under Windows 95, but that does present
a bit of problem.  Some might be aware of Windows 95 limitations,
and one of them is when running Windows 3.1 software, it causes the
normally pre-emptive multitasking Windows 95 platform back into its
legacy days (Windows 3.1) and reverts the entire system back to
co-operative multitasking.  Granted, some people will not see a
problem.  Some others, however, may see a problem.  I guess it
depends on what it is you are doing with your computer at the time.
As well, some printer drivers (eg. Canon BJC-4400) may have some
Windows 95 specific features (BJC-4400 has a Image Color Matching
option which is Windows 95 specific, which will also count for the
applications aside from the operating system).
    Speaking of Windows 3.1, Describe 5 for Windows 3.1 uses
very little resources.  After loading up Describe 5, on clicking
back to the program manager, you will find 72% resources left.  A
far cry from either WordPerfect 7/Word 6 for Windows 3.1 which
usually had me down to the low 60's, high 50's.
    The only strike against Describe some people may have is
that Describe Inc. went out of business back in 1997.  Therefore,
no more updates or newer versions.  So there is very little chance
of finding this product new, however, it is good to say that you can
find Describe 5 for a pretty low price.  I picked up mine second
hand for $25 US which also included the fantastic manual (586 pages).
Keep in mind, all three versions of Describe are on the CDROM
(Windows 3.1, Windows 95/NT, and OS/2) making it a really nice little
bargain.  If you are looking for it and want the manual then
make sure it is the purple one, apparently some places sold
Describe 5 with a smaller filmsy one.
    Now obviously, this is not the answer for your word
processing needs if exchanging documents are a concern since some
people may require loading up the latest WordPerfect or Word
formats.  I'm not sure if WordPerfect has viewers available freely
but I know Microsoft does have Word Viewers for Windows 3.1/95/NT
that one can download from them.  Lotus also has the same with
their Word Pro product off their website.  But if you find yourself
working with the latest WordPerfect, Word, or Word Pro document
then Describe may not be for you which is kind of unfortunate.
I can't think of any GUI-based word processor that sports these
kinds of features and is available under that many platforms and
won't require a good machine to run under.  Which is important
since none of the character-based word processors can use the
Windows drivers seeing as how most of the newer inkjet printers
are WinPrinters without any DOS support anymore.  Even if they did
have some, it would be limiting since you would not be getting
the best possible printing results (mainly color and especially for
photo's).
    The only other word processor that has a modest feature
set would be MicroVision's WordExpress for Windows 3.1 & 95.  Still
supported and only costs $49.95 US.  They can do some educational
pricing if you email and ask them.  If cross platform compabillity
is important then I would suggest keeping an eye out on AbiWord,
the open source word processor.  It currently has no special features
like spellcheck or thesaurus just yet, it is still early in its
development but they do have BeOS (PPC/Intel), Linux (Intel...there
was a Alpha port but it was removed from their website when I last
checked), Windows 95/NT versions with a Mac port coming along.
Almost any platform has the potential to get it ported over since
the source is freely available.  The advantage there is that under
any supported platform one would be able to view and work with the
document and exchange it with others with no ill effect since it is
freely downloadable.  Currently, release 0.7.5 for Windows 95/NT is
only a 750k download.  Closest thing to that kind of cross platform
compability is something really massive like StarOffice (Windows
95/NT, OS/2, Linux, Solaris).  However, this is all about mid-range
word processors, not a Office/Works software package on steroids.

AbiWord: http://www.abisource.com
MicroVision: http://www.mvd.com

    In the end, use what you want.  But if you are like me
and wanted to find a good small word processor that sports a
good number of features without sucking up too much in resources,
then keep a look out for Describe 5.  It's a definate bargain,
especially the excellent manual (interesting to note that it
was published by QUE, ISDN: 1-56529-885-3).  If you are interested

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From: [e-mail]                    08-Oct-99 03:25:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: (2/2) Describe: A Blast from the Past

in obtaining Describe 5, make sure the manual you are getting is
a nice thick purple one.  Apparantly some Describe 5 copies were
sold with a flimsy one.


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From: [e-mail]                      07-Oct-99 15:37:08
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Need Xfree Help!

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <[e-mail]>, "Gail Koontz"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I posted this first in comp.os.os2.setup.misc, because I thought that was the
right spot, but
>no one has replied, so I'm trying again. There are at least two of us with
the same
>problem, and we have two different graphics cards. Could someone please
suggest
>something to try? I'm fresh out of ideas, and I've been working on this for
several days.
>
>I should also say that ping localhost works fine.
>
>Using WARP 4, I installed Xfree 3.3.5 over 3.3.2, which was working (at least
>to the extent of getting the window manager loaded and having things like the
>clock running). Now I get a gray screen with an X in it and nothing else.

If you see the grey screen with an X cursor then X is running,
but it appears you might not have a window manager defined.  Did
v3.3.5 perhaps overwrite your \XFree86\lib\X11\xinit\xinitrc.cmd
file?

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Oct-99 04:07:27
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k? Summary

From: [e-mail] (Edward Germain)

Step-by-step:  Warp 4

0.  We remove all references to Java in Config.Sys, and delete or
rename Java 1.4 and its directory.
1.  We download firupkg.zip.  We unzip it into [drive]\feature\fisetup
using pkunzip2.
     -- We delete Fi.Ini and fisetup.log from c;\os2\install (if it
exists)
2.  We download javainuf.exe.  We unpack it into [drive]\java11 using
javainuf -di -ov
3.  We install Feature Install 1.25 (Fisetup /L1:c:\feature.log is one
variant, but just FISETUP is OK)
4.  We check the log (feature.log in this case).  It says everything
is OK and a reboot is needed.
5.  We reboot..  However, in the log, there is no change.  The log
still says "[File is Locked.  Call UNLOCK] C:\OS2\DLL\INSTALL.DLL"
Yet Fisetup.log says "All prerequisites were met.  MAIN ROUTINE."
Fisetup.log in in c:\os2\dll and is dated 3 minutes later than
c;\feature.log, which is the time it took to reboot.

6.  We go into [drive]:\java11 and run "Install"
     --we get the spinning globe
    --we get the virtual cup of coffee
    --we get an error msg that says 3175: access violation in
Install.Dll
    --we wait patiently and eventually get to a window called "Feature
Install User Exit"
    --Here we see a Sys 1041 error: "The name 1 is not recognized
as...a command."
    --The next, and only other line says: "22 *-* Read Syslevel
bootdrive\os2\dll\syslevel.os2.

7.   And now everything is stopped.  Syslevel.os2, btw, is in
c:\os2\dll, and it shows Fixpack 11 applied in my case, in another
person's case (there are at least 3 of us hung at this point) it's
Fixpack 12.

I think the problem is in Feature Install; it's not processing the
mods to Install.dll.  Does someone who knows more than I agree, and if
so what to do about it?  And if not, what is hanging us up?

An exasperated Ed Germain

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 22:12:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

It's been a long time, but I recall having this problem.  I don't run it
any more, but I think all I did was edit a file, type one character in
it, and save it as c:\os2\share.exe.

"Eric A. Erickson" wrote:
>
> I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
> Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years
> with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
> notebook.
>
> Help!
>
> Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.                   - Internet:
[e-mail]
> IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer        - IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
> IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
> 'Already where I want to be Today       - Voice/Fax: [phone] <-Newe'

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 00:15:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 04:17:06
Subj: theseus/2

From: "dinkmeister" <[e-mail]>

theres a new theseus/2 available at:
http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/fixnews.html#thes

it fixes the problems with fixpak 12..


- dink ( http://dink.org )




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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 18:05:18
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Bill wrote:

> On 3 Oct 1999 18:49:50 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
> >|Jim Stuyck wrote:
> >||
> >|| "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
> >||
> >|| > Frank McKenney wrote:
> >|| > >
> >|| > > In <[e-mail]>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<[e-mail]> writes:
> >|| > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
> >|| >
> >|| > [***SNIP!!!***]
> >|| >
> >|| > >
> >|| > > Well, now that you mention it...
> >|| > >
> >|| > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> >|| > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> >|| > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty
boxes
> >|| > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and
spit
> >|| > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
> >
> >Oh Yeah! Wasn't that a hoot to see & hear? When the little brushes that
> >read the carriage control tape would get too dirty... whoosh! If you
> >didn't have a stacker, the paper would stand up off the top of the
> >printer and go straight across the room.
> >
> >I was actually lucky enough to see this happen twice. Thanks for the
> >memory! :)
> >

Almost as fascinating as raising the acoustic hood and watching it
disgorge a whole box of fanfold while it's chain hammers accurately
rendered a very musical "Anchors Away" or "Rule Brittania" from the
deck of cards you had diligently spent hours punching just to amuse the
kids on IBM's Open Day!
"Ooo Daddy I didn't know those big 'fings could play music"?

> I prefer the stories from the card days of 2nd and 3rd shift
> operators lifting floor panels, looking for their beer stash,
> and dropping the panel on a fire sensor and dumping the halon.
> And being buried under a cards.

You mean just the most geriatric deaf Ops  persons that could'nt get to
the door in time within the 30sec exit delay?
Personally I preferred my lager cooled by taping it inside the lagging
on the CW intake on the Frame 15 CDU.......also  nice and safe for
keeping my floor tile "sucker" and EPO reset key that otherwise seemed
to get "borrowed"!  <g>

> Bill

 --
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"


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From: [e-mail]                              07-Oct-99 23:03:00
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In <7tc5ub$e8i$[e-mail]>, on 10/05/99
>    at 02:30 AM, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) said:
>
> IBM kissed off over 60% of the OS/2 user base with FP 12.  You can't get
> your soundcard back and they have no intention of fixing it.  Unless you
> can read the chip numbers and find the manufacturer you are screwed.
> Actually, you are still screwed.  ESS has moved on to greater sound chips
> and hasn't updated the OS/2 driver for the 1869 since 1997.  They have no
> plans to.  They have moved onto chips with higher margins and greater
> capabilities.
>
> Give IBM a big round of applause for finally killing OS/2.
>
> Roland
>

I don't follow your logic here (or it is imprecisely written,
or I'm not reading it correctly): if this only applies to the
ESS based cards, how does that account for 60 % of OS/2 users ?
I doubt that many are using ESS.  At the moment, I've got 4
soundcards here (trying to line up the best one for Warp), and
*none* of them are ESS-based.  If you're saying that FP-12
breaks *any* installed soundcard -- and this turned out to be
true -- that would indeed be serious.  But, to date, I haven't
heard this assertion anywhere else.

<jf>

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 05:18:17
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k? Summary

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Edward Germain) writes:


> We download javainuf.exe.  We unpack it into [drive]\java11 using
>javainuf -di -ov

this may not be your problem, but why did you unpack it into the directory
where it ends up ? that can't work very well . . . unpack it into a JVATMP or
something, save the zip file in an archive directory, and delete the temporary

files when done seems like a better plan.


>an exasperated Ed Germain


--
Härad Ængravvård


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From: [e-mail]                                08-Oct-99 06:09:06
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k? Summary

From: [e-mail] (Rich Walsh)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 04:07:54, [e-mail] (Edward Germain) wrote:

>[big snip]
>
> I think the problem is in Feature Install; it's not processing the
> mods to Install.dll.  Does someone who knows more than I agree, and if
> so what to do about it?  And if not, what is hanging us up?

Is the date on x:\OS2\DLL\INSTALL.DLL the same as the copy in FISETUP?
If not, boot to a command line, then copy in the newer file.  Reboot
and see what happens.

(FYI... All of the major files in my FI setup are dtd 07-Jun-99.)

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From: [e-mail]                                  07-Oct-99 18:12:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 05:11:22
Subj: Re: running dos in os/2

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, Matt Blackwell <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >I am trying to set up an old server that was given to my school.  How do I
> >start dos emulation in os/2?  Can windows be installed on a compaq
> >prosignia server?
>
> In Warp 4 it's really easy.  There is a folder in your OS/2 folder
> caller Setup.  Click on it and there should be a folder in it call Add
> Programs.  Click on that.  You'll get two choices, to add programs or to
> search for other programs.   You'll have to go through the litany of
> adding programs no matter what.  When they have been 'found', then you
> get to go on and round up all the other programs and batch files.  You
> can pick from whatever it finds.  Then you tell it to add them to the
> desktop...
>
> Poof!

Poof indeed....... perhaps arguably  better to enquire whether he can
actually get a working DOS session first before elaborating on how to
migrate/add the apps?

> Up to three new "ADDITIONAL.. " program folders may appear in your
> programs folder on the desktop.  DOS .. WIN .. OS/2 ...  Inside that
> will be the ones you added!
>
> Now how you tell Warp 4 all the exact right SESSION SETTING commands to
> go along with the programs you added ..  Well, that's another whole
> *LONG* story in DOS for itself...  'Tis especially true of
> communications DOS-VDM programs that you try to run on OS/2 ...
>
> However .. this may get you started...

Ahhhh... but but..... this all presumes that DOS was installed
originally?
Havn't we missed an elementary step first?
Excellent advice(albeit pretty useless on OS/2 1.3<g>) but with greatest
of respect you're a tad presumptious in assuming he's allready on the
correct road and facing the correct direction when
you now teach him how to change gear,manouvre lanes at speed on the
freeway/motorway/autobahn/autostrada?

Perhaps he's running PROTECTMODEONLY=YES on a ex server?
His query:  "Can windows  be installed...." could potentially also imply
that neither DOS nor Winos2 were elected at original install time? (or
even perversely running OSV3 HalfPak w/o windows or similiarly a
crippled install of OS/2.1 for Windows).
However, in case he was just suffering temporary icon "blindness" or his
Command Prompts folder or contents were missing, then wouldn't simply
attempting to enter "command" in a OS2 window/FS give him a better clue?

> -> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

.....but some others give the impression they often "doze" in
between!<g>....... Zzzzzz  Zzzzzzz

> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

 --
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"


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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Oct-99 09:19:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:23
Subj: Re: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>


John Brock wrote:
>
> In article <uHM7v1cwBWpr-pn2-XcKfbMIl0u5H@mieko>,  <PeterSAthotmailCom>
wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >just tried to create an new document of type database.
> >The "Type" listbox lists DBase, DB2, JDBC, text, but not Starbase.
> >This is different in the WindowsVersion of StarOffice.
> >Is there really no Starbase included?
>
> I was wondering the same thing.  But with a little poking around I
> discovered File -> New -> Database -- which allows you to create
> databases -- so Starbase must be in there somewhere, even though there
> is no icon for new databases on the StarOffice desktop.  It appears
> that native Starbase format is simply dBase, although you are also
> given the option of DB2, JDBC, ODBC, and Text.
>
> I have to say that the StarOffice on-line documentation truly *SUX*!
> Am I missing something, or is there really no searchable help?!?
> --
> John Brock
> [e-mail]

There is a specific starbase-format at least on win32. It is long awaited to
be seen on other
platforms as well. Some months ago there was rumor, that StarDivision had
purchased the code of a
RDBMS called RBase. This was once an OS/2 based RDBMS. I havn't seen this
rumor confirmed.


By/2
Meinolf

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Oct-99 09:55:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:23
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: Csaba Raduly <[e-mail]>

"Thomas A. Heller" wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> Thanks for your help/concern.  I'm going to place
> the Feature Install tree onto the F: drive (where
> I'm trying to install Java) and see if it goes.  (If
> you don't hear from me, then I will have succeeded.)
>
Or succeeded in hosing your browser/newsreader too (Mozilla for OS/2)
:-)
Csaba

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From: [e-mail]                                  08-Oct-99 10:34:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:23
Subj: Re: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> In <[e-mail]>, on 10/07/99
>    at 12:49 PM, Tony Wright <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >So if one has to expend some imponderable effort anyway I'm seriously
> >wondering whether to evaluate other alternative ISP's before commencing
> >the "pain" of changing IBM > ATTGLOBAL.
> >The majority of other ISP's appear cheaper anyway although I don't know
> >whether multi accounts, access reliability/speed can be comparable to
> >IBM's former and presumably AT&T's quality/performance?.
>
> I just ordered a DSL line.  Will let you know when it is installed and how
> it works.
>
> Roland

Thanks (I'm assuming I'm not confused here and DSL == ADSL  and implies
it's via AT&T and not some other telco?)...
I'm UK based and British Telecom (local loop provider) and others (like
my current C & W cable provider) are only currently(or
thinking of<g>) embarking on ADSL pilots....
Talking to C&W(UK) for my area seems to indicate we won't get this
option until well into 2000  earliest... :-(

Hence problem of judging best time  in order to delay  changing
addresses to multiple contacts while allowing sufficient time to
evaluate a broad a spread of ISP's as possible.
In UK at least ADSL may not be rolled out sufficiently before Oct2000 to
give sufficient choice in that direction.   :-(

Also with diversity of standards tween international PTT's/hardware can
one reliably extrapolate experiences tween one user in one country and
another? Even if they are using a common globally established telco?

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From: [e-mail]                               08-Oct-99 10:00:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Describe: A Blast from the Past

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (John Hong) wrote:

> (Also posted to comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-pro)
>
>                  DESCRIBE: A BLAST FROM THE PAST
>
>     In my hands I am holding a PC Computing Magazine, dated
> March of 1992.  Why this particular issue?  It had a review of
> the, at the time, latest word processors.  Namely, Lotus AmiPro
> 2.0, WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows, and Microsoft Word 2.0.  The
> first three are not really important here, as at the end of the
> reviews they had a section on three high-end alternatives and
> one of which was Describe 3.0 for Windows.  Incidentally, it looks
> like the review of the big three really favored AmiPro more so
> over Word or WordPerfect, go figure.

Ho, wait. AmiPro was really a good alternative (at that time). The
rest of your post really makes it clear: Describe is by far the best
wordprocessor. We should be ashamed it is not sold anymore. But
it may show again: technical excellence does not warrant a commer-
cial success. On the contrary, it may often be opposing qualities.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                               08-Oct-99 10:00:22
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: NS 4.61 Pointer to Solutions Search Field Problem?

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


This must undoubtedly been talked about before, but
I have problems locating the answers in Deja etc. I am
having problems with the NS 4.61 GA (not before I think)
not showing the search field entries at Deja, Hobbes etc. It
just shows a thin line where the "entry-field" should have been.
But it does not allow to type anything there. Do not have the sa-
me problem in NS 4.04 so it should not be hw / driver related. As
said don't think it was in beta's. I am on FP12 & GENGRADD 0.80

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: [e-mail]                                    08-Oct-99 06:52:09
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "Bob Stan" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 22:12:11 -0600, Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>It's been a long time, but I recall having this problem.  I don't run it
>any more, but I think all I did was edit a file, type one character in
>it, and save it as c:\os2\share.exe.
That's what I did too - apparently Word only needs to find a file with the
name share.exe


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From: [e-mail]                              08-Oct-99 13:20:02
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Staroffice 5.1

From: [e-mail] (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

[e-mail] (Ian Johnston) escreveu:

>Jonathan Phillips ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Why not just purchase the CD.
>: I did and its much cheaper than the phone bill!
>
>Except that they want $25 to sent the CD to the UK - and it still takes
>8 - 10 days.

Don't believe the 8-10 days figure. It is a worst case scenario. Here in
Portugal it arrived in two days...

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From: [e-mail]                              08-Oct-99 13:20:06
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

[e-mail] (Craig Young) escreveu:

>On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:55:49, [e-mail] (Edward Germain)
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:35:17, "Arjen Meijer"
>> <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> And then everything dies.
>>
>> Do you understand what is happening here?
>>
>> --ed germain
>
>If it is any consolation, I am seeing EXACTLY the symptoms you report.
>I am going to try some of the posted suggestions to see if they work.

What solved it for me was to delete the 117 and 118 directories under
"x:\netscape\PROGRAM\JAVA\CLASSES\". After that I was able to install jdk 118,
and those directories were there again.

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From: [e-mail]                              08-Oct-99 13:21:19
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: [e-mail] (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

[e-mail] (Edward Germain) escreveu:

>Can anyone help us through this problem?

Edward, try my answer to Craig Young, namely removing the 117 and 118
directories under "x:\netscape\PROGRAM\JAVA\CLASSES\". If there is also a 104
directory remove it too. Then try installing jdk 118 again.

Good luck!
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From: [e-mail]                            08-Oct-99 13:53:23
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 11:55:24
Subj: Re: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: [e-mail] (John Makepeace)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:19:44, Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>
>
> John Brock wrote:
> >
> > In article <uHM7v1cwBWpr-pn2-XcKfbMIl0u5H@mieko>,  <PeterSAthotmailCom>
wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >just tried to create an new document of type database.
> > >The "Type" listbox lists DBase, DB2, JDBC, text, but not Starbase.
> > >This is different in the WindowsVersion of StarOffice.
> > >Is there really no Starbase included?
> >
> > I was wondering the same thing.  But with a little poking around I
> > discovered File -> New -> Database -- which allows you to create
> > databases -- so Starbase must be in there somewhere, even though there
> > is no icon for new databases on the StarOffice desktop.  It appears
> > that native Starbase format is simply dBase, although you are also
> > given the option of DB2, JDBC, ODBC, and Text.
> >
> > I have to say that the StarOffice on-line documentation truly *SUX*!
> > Am I missing something, or is there really no searchable help?!?
> > --
> > John Brock
> > [e-mail]
>
> There is a specific starbase-format at least on win32. It is long awaited to
be seen on other
> platforms as well. Some months ago there was rumor, that StarDivision had
purchased the code of a
> RDBMS called RBase. This was once an OS/2 based RDBMS. I havn't seen this
rumor confirmed.
>
>
> By/2
> Meinolf
>

Look on Sun's StarOffice/2 ver. 5.1 Help>About.  It mentions a
trademark for Oterro by R:BASE Technologies.  The original makers or
R:BASE (Microrim, Inc.)  went out of business last year and their
database products were sold to a new company called R:BASE
technologies (currently working on an updated version of R:BASE).
Oterro is basically an ODBC driver for R:BASE.  Mircorim used to make
R:BASE for OS/2 (both Text and PM), but R:BASE Technologies no longer
supports OS/2.


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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 16:02:10
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: FP12 unknown failure -11 ??????

From: Uli Wortmann <[e-mail]>

Hi there,

attempting to download fp12, always fails with
"unknown failure -11". RSU Version is 1.91. The problem can be
reproduced on second machine (my laptop), and also occures when trying
to download the dd fp. I tried several times on several days.

The log reads:

1999/10/08 15:56:31 Changing to directory ps/products/os2/rsu
1999/10/08 15:56:36 Setting BINARY transfer mode
1999/10/08 15:56:37 Getting csf141.zip ... 1031081 bytes
1999/10/08 15:56:39 unknown failure - 11

Any comments welcome

    Uli

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    ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Oct-99 14:44:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: trouble with DeScribe and PS printer driver

From: Jack Roberts <[e-mail]>

In article <qH8L3.1057$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Chris Hall) wrote:

> Jack:
>
> I doubt the problem is with Describe (prints here to postscript with
no problems).
> Much more likely is the printer object you created. Does it have a ps
printer
> driver as its default driver? I use Apple laserwriter as a generic ps
output.
> Also, you might as well not select any port, but check the option to
output
> to a file. I have just such a printer object and it creates ps files
from Describe
> which can then be converted to pdf using gs, so it can be done!
>
> Chris Hall  ([e-mail])


well, i was trying to set it to use a port so i could automate the PDF
creation stuff.  you're right, it iosn't a DeScribe problem, it does it
to my whole system.  i tried installing the newest PostScript driver
from the IBM driver site, as Generic PostScript Printer.  it's the only
printer i had set up, so i'm guessing it was the default.  and my system
freezes whenever any program tries to access the printer.  i tried
printing from MED and it did the same thing.  i'm going to try telling
it that i have a specific printer, and see if that helps.


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From: [e-mail]                                       08-Oct-99 16:01:05
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Will Rose <[e-mail]>

Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]> wrote:
: In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-GphTfyHRRxo1@localhost>,
:   doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

: [lotsa great info snipped]

:> Hope this helps...

: Oh it does!  Thanks SO much.  YOU ROCK! :)

[OFFTOPIC]

If you're new to maintaining OS/2 systems, be aware that you really
need an INI file cleaner for reliability; I use Unimaint to handle
the desktop backup and INI file cleaning, but there are several PD
programs which will do the job.  Junk in the INI files has a bad
effect, especially on FAT systems.


Will
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                08-Oct-99 11:02:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: FP12 unknown failure -11 ??????

From: Dick Kurtz <[e-mail]>

Ref:     Append at 16:02:21 on 99/10/08 +0000 (by [e-mail])

Try turning of verbose mode, see if that helps.

> "unknown failure -11". RSU Version is 1.91. The problem can be

Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 17:05:26
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

Alan Beagley <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have found that I m getting a slew of "CRC mismatch" error messages when I
try to verify backups
>that were made using BA/2 Pro ver. 4.0i with the tape drive connected to my
on-board Adaptec SCSI

This is the error that started around FP26 (was it 26?) for Warp3 and
was never corrected.

Craig

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From: [e-mail]                                     08-Oct-99 13:42:19
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: 1999 tax preparation software for OS/2???

From: "Alfred H. Cole, Jr." <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of any 1999 tax preparation software that would run
under OS/2.

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Oct-99 17:49:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]  (Joe Kovacs)

In <[e-mail]>, "J. R. Fox" <[e-mail]> writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> In <7tc5ub$e8i$[e-mail]>, on 10/05/99
>>    at 02:30 AM, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) said:
>>
>> IBM kissed off over 60% of the OS/2 user base with FP 12.  You can't get
>> your soundcard back and they have no intention of fixing it.  Unless you
>> can read the chip numbers and find the manufacturer you are screwed.
>> Actually, you are still screwed.  ESS has moved on to greater sound chips
>> and hasn't updated the OS/2 driver for the 1869 since 1997.  They have no
>> plans to.  They have moved onto chips with higher margins and greater
>> capabilities.
>>
>> Give IBM a big round of applause for finally killing OS/2.
>>
>> Roland
>>
>
>I don't follow your logic here (or it is imprecisely written,
>or I'm not reading it correctly): if this only applies to the
>ESS based cards, how does that account for 60 % of OS/2 users ?
>I doubt that many are using ESS.  At the moment, I've got 4
>soundcards here (trying to line up the best one for Warp), and
>*none* of them are ESS-based.  If you're saying that FP-12
>breaks *any* installed soundcard -- and this turned out to be
>true -- that would indeed be serious.  But, to date, I haven't
>heard this assertion anywhere else.
>
><jf>
>

Organized crime is working OS/2 and what's left of IBM over,
of course.  So no, the logic doesn't follow.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                         08-Oct-99 18:00:09
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 15:24:09
Subj: Frustration rant, I guess, but also problems terminating stuff

From: Siobhan Perricone <[e-mail]>

In article <7tl4g6$2mm1$[e-mail]>,
  Will Rose <[e-mail]> wrote:

> [OFFTOPIC]

Off topic?  I'd think it was spot on. :)

> If you're new to maintaining OS/2 systems, be aware that you really
> need an INI file cleaner for reliability; I use Unimaint to handle
> the desktop backup and INI file cleaning, but there are several PD
> programs which will do the job.  Junk in the INI files has a bad
> effect, especially on FAT systems.

Here are the words I understood from the above paragraph:

"If you're new to maintaining OS/2 systems...lkj;afo weina;kdjf
laljskdfj"

You lost me, really.  I'm starting to feel like OS/2 is similar to
Amiga, in that you need to know a hell of a lot about how the system
operates in order to keep it stable and get things to run.  What pisses
me off about this is I AM NOT AN IDIOT.  I have been a computer
hobbyist and technical support person for years.  I STARTED on a VIC20,
moved to a Commodore 64 and until four years ago I was operating only
Amiga 3000s at my house.  I ran a BBS on an Amiga for crying out loud.
I'M NO NEWBIE.

I just spent the morning researching utilities that help me terminate
applications that are hung up.  I dl'd a bunch of things from hobbes
and installed them to see what they did only to find that many of them
need me to give a PID in order to "kill a process" (I know what the
means, but, honestly...).  Further research revealed that I could find
the PID by using PSTAT.  So now I'm trying to figure out how the hell
to read whatever it is that PSTAT gives me.

I *know* that these tools are all very powerful and useful in a lot of
ways, but the learning curve on this stuff is *incredibly* frustrating.

ALL I wanted to do was close a window that was hung up.  It was a
delete confirmation window for the deletion of some print jobs that
were sitting in a printer device window.  The confirmation window hung
and I wanted to close it.  The online help is only useful if you
already KNOW what everything means and how it works.  The online
tutorial doesn't cover this level of effort, and there are no classes
for me to attend to learn this stuff in a useful way.

So I'm stuck with half-assed documents that don't provide sufficient
cross referencing; an 800 page reference book that's great, except the
index is like three pages long and so I can never FIND anything in it;
and newsgroups that give good answers occasionally, but never enough to
actually let me *complete* anything, and snide half answers from people
like Roland the rest of the time (Oh, BTW, thank you Roland for
confirming my initial impression of you, I won't bother you with
responses to your rantings any more, you get the last word).

I've got a program that looks great and useful, CAD Commander, but I
can't figure out how to get it to close the delete confirmation window
for the deletion of a print job that's sitting in a printer device.  I
got it to terminate a variety of applications, but none what it
terminated was what I needed to terminate.  WHY is this so HARD to
find?!

--
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PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: [e-mail]                             08-Oct-99 14:25:01
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

Well, I am using Warp 4 with FP 12. I corrected the problem by connecting the
tape drive to a different
SCSI card. I believe that many people have found that tape drives doen't play
nicely with the more
exotic Adaptec SCSI controllers such as the AHA2940, and they keep their older
SCSI cards specifically
for use with the tape drive -- and not even specifically for OS/2.

Alan


Mooo wrote:

> Alan Beagley <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >I have found that I m getting a slew of "CRC mismatch" error messages when
I try to verify backups
> >that were made using BA/2 Pro ver. 4.0i with the tape drive connected to my
on-board Adaptec SCSI
>
> This is the error that started around FP26 (was it 26?) for Warp3 and
> was never corrected.

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 18:30:18
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Re: Frustration rant, I guess, but also problems terminating stuff

From: [e-mail]

In <7tlbfe$u3o$[e-mail]>, Siobhan Perricone
<[e-mail]> writes:
>In article <7tl4g6$2mm1$[e-mail]>,
>  Will Rose <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> [OFFTOPIC]
>
>Off topic?  I'd think it was spot on. :)
>
>> If you're new to maintaining OS/2 systems, be aware that you really
>> need an INI file cleaner for reliability;

snip
>
>I just spent the morning researching utilities that help me terminate
>applications that are hung up.  I dl'd a bunch of things from hobbes
>and installed them to see what they did
>
>ALL I wanted to do was close a window that was hung up.  It was a
>delete confirmation window for the deletion of some print jobs that
>were sitting in a printer device window.  The confirmation window hung
>and I wanted to close it.

for simple hangs PSTATPM (pspm/2 ?) works very well and doesn't need
a manual. I believe it's at Hobbes, if you had a real address I'd mail it to
you.


>--
>Siobhan Perricone
>PC Technician
>Alltel Information Services
>(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.


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From: [e-mail]                              08-Oct-99 11:51:12
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Re: FP12 unknown failure -11 ??????

From: James Stotz <[e-mail]>

I got that too, so I had to use SimplyFix to do it.  I got that with the
last fixpak, fp11.  Other people had trouble on that one, no?

James

Uli Wortmann wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> attempting to download fp12, always fails with
> "unknown failure -11". RSU Version is 1.91. The problem can be
> reproduced on second machine (my laptop), and also occures when trying
> to download the dd fp. I tried several times on several days.
>
> The log reads:
>
> 1999/10/08 15:56:31 Changing to directory ps/products/os2/rsu
> 1999/10/08 15:56:36 Setting BINARY transfer mode
> 1999/10/08 15:56:37 Getting csf141.zip ... 1031081 bytes
> 1999/10/08 15:56:39 unknown failure - 11
>
> Any comments welcome
>
>         Uli
>
> --
>         Uli Wortmann           Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632  1080
>         Dept. of Geology       Fon                        3694
>         ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
>         Visit the SPOC-team at http://www.spoc.ethz.ch

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From: [e-mail]                                   08-Oct-99 13:48:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Re: Frustration rant, I guess, but also problems terminating stuff

From: Marvin Volz <[e-mail]>

Adding the following two lines to config.sys has done the trick for me:

SET KILLFEATUREENABLED=ENABLED
SET SCKILLCONFIRMDISABLED=ON

What it does is change the "list of running programs", 2nd icon from left
on taskbar, to a complete list of everything running--by holding down
"cntrl" when clicking on the said icon. Then selecting the "hung" program
will kill it.

Most print drivers also let you kill the print job by just opening the
printer icon, etc. If not, taking the printer off-line will make it time
out and die.

Good luck!
MTV


Siobhan Perricone wrote:

> I just spent the morning researching utilities that help me terminate
> applications that are hung up.  I dl'd a bunch of things from hobbes
> and installed them to see what they did only to find that many of them
> need me to give a PID in order to "kill a process" (I know what the
> means, but, honestly...).  Further research revealed that I could find
> the PID by using PSTAT.  So now I'm trying to figure out how the hell
> to read whatever it is that PSTAT gives me.
>
> I *know* that these tools are all very powerful and useful in a lot of
> ways, but the learning curve on this stuff is *incredibly* frustrating.
>
> ALL I wanted to do was close a window that was hung up.  It was a
> delete confirmation window for the deletion of some print jobs that
> were sitting in a printer device window.  The confirmation window hung
> and I wanted to close it.  The online help is only useful if you
> already KNOW what everything means and how it works.  The online
> tutorial doesn't cover this level of effort, and there are no classes
> for me to attend to learn this stuff in a useful way.
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                                 08-Oct-99 12:21:04
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:06
Subj: Java install failure

From: John Mandeville <[e-mail]>

I've tried installing Java 1.1.8, but the installation fails after all
the files are copied.  It tells be to check
x:\os2\install\wpinstal.log.  After adding x:\Java11\rmi-iiope to the
path, it gives the message "**NULLID"" :: Exception -1073741819 returned
to instthrd.c 7301".  Not knowing what exception -1073741819 is, I'm
don't know what to do next.  It got far enough that some of my Java apps
run OK, but others do not.  Ideas?

--
John Mandeville
jemandy at earthlink dot net

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From: [e-mail]                           08-Oct-99 11:57:25
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Pointer to Solutions Search Field Problem?

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

"M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn" wrote:

> This must undoubtedly been talked about before, but
> I have problems locating the answers in Deja etc. I am
> having problems with the NS 4.61 GA (not before I think)
> not showing the search field entries at Deja, Hobbes etc. It
> just shows a thin line where the "entry-field" should have been.

Edit->Preference, and click on Fonts.  Change your Fixed
Width font from Courier New to something else (such as
Courier).

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: [e-mail]                               08-Oct-99 17:09:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Staroffice5.1 Starbase not included?

From: [e-mail] (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> [e-mail] (John Makepeace) wrote:

> Look on Sun's StarOffice/2 ver. 5.1 Help>About.  It mentions a
> trademark for Oterro by R:BASE Technologies.  The original makers or
> R:BASE (Microrim, Inc.)  went out of business last year and their
> database products were sold to a new company called R:BASE
> technologies (currently working on an updated version of R:BASE).
> Oterro is basically an ODBC driver for R:BASE.  Mircorim used to make
> R:BASE for OS/2 (both Text and PM), but R:BASE Technologies no longer
> supports OS/2.

Sure hope that Star / Sun understands that a cros-platform office tool
needs a common file-format to be usable in all those environments. So
that they also bought the right / possibilities to use the file-format in
OS/2.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Oct-99 20:52:11
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 01:36:13, [e-mail] wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Allow me to dry behind your ears a little here.
>

I have been working with computer hardware since 1967. YOU are the one
who needs a little drying.

Anyhow, The SCSI design criteria says:

TERMINATOR-DEVICE-DEVICE-CONTROLER-DEVICE-DEVICE-TERMINATOR

Where devices may be missing in this string, and a second controler
can be inserted, as a device.

Some newer cards do have second (and third) interfaces, BUT they are
NOT designed to be used with more than two at any one time. They are
provided, to make it easier to use older devices with newer
controlers. Some people do try to use more than two, and sometimes it
actually does work, BUT it is NOT supported according to the SCSI
design specifications. The controler only needs to be terminated, IF
it is at one end of the chain.

If the card doesn't work like that, it is not designed properly, or
you have not connected, and terminated, the chain properly (more
likely). On the other hand, there are a lot of devices, that are
supposed to have "automatic" built in termination, that do not work
properly, AND there are a LOT of terminators that do not work properly
(especially the "dynamic" ones).

If you have three terminators in the chain, you are operating outside
of the design criteria, and it may, or may not, work properly,
depending a lot on what devices are on the chain, how long the cables
are, and if you are switching bus widths somewhere.

As I said earlier, No wonder you are having problems...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                                08-Oct-99 14:25:01
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.utilities article <[e-mail]> Dan Casey
<[e-mail]> wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>,
: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> wrote:

:>Yes, it is corrupt.  The program works fine using the old 1.10 help file.
:>
:>I got the zip file from the pillarsoft site, and it tests OK, so I think
:>the file itself is corrupt.  I've asked for a new version of EEE.HLP, but
:>have note received it yet.

: FYI .... Wayne Swanson (Pillarsoft) has been VERY busy for the past 5
: or 6 months .... only getting home on weekends. You'll have to forgive
: him  if he doesn't respond  immediately.

: He's the Vice President  of VOICE ... and he  doesn't respond to my
: e-mail, either <g>

: I'll mention it to him this weekend and see if he's aware of the
: problem. If any of you are planning on attending Warpstock 99, he'll
: be there.

Not to worry.  He got back to me with a better HLP file, and all is well.

He was very helpful in this.


--
John M. Price, PhD                                     [e-mail]
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If
something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal
it.
        - Albert Einstein

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From: [e-mail]                             08-Oct-99 21:30:10
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: 1999 tax preparation software for OS/2???

From: [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:42:39, "Alfred H. Cole, Jr." <[e-mail]>
wrote:

-)Does anyone know of any 1999 tax preparation software that would run
-)under OS/2.
-)

Haven't looked into it yet this year.  Four tax apps were reviewed
last year in the VOICE Newsletter

ExcelTax -
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0299H/vnewsf6.htm
I am trying to call them to verify that they will offer a personal
version in DOS or Win3.1 this year.  Their site says they are giving
away the Professional version for free (phone support will be charged
for, email free)


Kiplinger's TaxCut -
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0199H/vnewsf6.htm#TaxCut
According to TaxCut's email support:

"Currently, the system requrements for TaxCut 99 have not been
released.
We, however, sspect that the system requirements will be nearly
identical
to the system requirements for TaxCut 98.  Generally speaking, if you
were
able to run TaxCut 98 you should have no difficulty running TaxCut 99,
with
one exception:  TaxCut 99 will be available on CD only.  3-1/2"
diskettes
will no longer be available.  Therefore,in order to install TaxCut 99
your
system must have an internal  CD ROM drive, or you must have acess to
an
external CD-ROM drive. "


AMTAX for DOS -
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0199H/vnewsf7.htm
From their website:

"For tax year 1999, AM-Tax will still be exclusively a DOS program. In
the majority of situations, it runs  fine under Windows as a DOS
application. Operational problems, if any, are almost always
restricted to  printers. (See inside for more information above
printing under Windows.)

As everyone knows, DOS is on the endangered species list. All new
software requires Windows to  operate and most new printers work only
with Windows applications. Weÿve resisted the change as  long as
possible but itÿs becoming increasingly difficult to support a DOS
version of AM-Tax in the  modern computer environment. At this point,
our plans are not firm. It is possible that we will offer both a DOS
and a Windows version of AM-Tax for tax year 2000. Beyond that, it is
highly likely that we will offer only a Windows version."


TurboTax deluxe -
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL0199H/vnewsf8.htm
Site still lists support for Win 3.1

Mark


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   [e-mail]
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
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From: [e-mail]                              08-Oct-99 22:04:14
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 19:57:07
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: [e-mail]

In article
<37fd372d$1$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$[e-mail]
>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> In <7tc5ub$e8i$[e-mail]>, on 10/05/99
>    at 02:30 AM, [e-mail] (Pierre Jelenc) said:
>
> IBM kissed off over 60% of the OS/2 user base with FP 12.
You can't get
> your soundcard back and they have no intention of fixing it.
Unless you
> can read the chip numbers and find the manufacturer you are
screwed.
> Actually, you are still screwed.  ESS has moved on to greater
sound chips
> and hasn't updated the OS/2 driver for the 1869 since 1997.
>

This appears not to be the case. I am running Warp 4/FP12 with
an Eagle ESS1869 base card, and the sound is fine. When I
installed FP11 and got the expected trap, I found this driver
via a deja search of the OS/2 newsgroups. It can be obtained
here:

http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

( Thanks Duane! ).

The ESS drivers are the first thing on the page.




Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                08-Oct-99 18:39:20
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: Pillarsoft EE>EXE

From: [e-mail]

John M Price PhD <[e-mail]> said:

>: FYI .... Wayne Swanson (Pillarsoft) has been VERY busy for the past 5

>Not to worry.  He got back to me with a better HLP file, and all is well.

>He was very helpful in this.

I wish ALL authors were so helpful.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 21:19:23
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:42:45 -0400, Thomas A. Heller wrote:

>As far as I can tell, I'm all hot to trot, but all I
>can get is that damned cup of coffee and a couple of
>(by now stale) donuts!  Is that all there is?
>
How long did you enjoy the coffee and doughnuts? From personal
experience, I can tell you that the search of FI which is going on
while you are on your 'coffee break' is gauranteed to last about 20%
longer than you expect it to.


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From: [e-mail]                             07-Oct-99 21:26:15
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 ~ What the f*@#k?

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 02:29:10 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:

>One gotcha is using 4os2. If you are using 4os2, you need to open a
>non-4os2 session; it's sufficient to type cmd.exe within a 4os2 box. I
>don't think the 4os2 problem has been fixed.
>
>If it's something else, I'm afraid I don't know but I hope you track it
>down.

I've installed Java 1.18 a couple of times (under FI 1.24 and then
under v.1.25) while running 4OS2 and had no problem (not at the point
where he's complaining about it anyway) But the coffee and doughnuts
screen will hang for a *lo-o-o-n-n-g-g* time before it finally gives
the buttons to proceed at the bottom. It's checking the Java installed
level, I presume. Anyway, if you're not getting the buttons at the
bottom of that screen, then it's not finished searching. So just wait.


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From: [e-mail]                        08-Oct-99 18:24:03
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: cdwriter support

From: [e-mail] (Rick Knebel)

Hi,

I was just curious if there is a program that will support cdwriting under
os2.

I have a yamaha cd r/w/rw.

Thanks
Rick


--
Rick Knebel
[e-mail]
http://rknebel.uplink.net

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From: [e-mail]@Vi...               08-Oct-99 23:41:12
  To: All                                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: True Spectra Graphics

Message sender: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca

From: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Fri, 8 Oct 1999 02:26:45, "Frank Rusko" <[e-mail]> a
écrit:

> On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 00:53:10 GMT, Michel A Goyette wrote:
> >
> >    Right-click (or press F12) on the drawing area.  Choose "Unlock now".
> > Good luck.
>
> I did just that and it is still doing a daily countdown. This is
> despite the fact that it "thanks me for registering the
> product".
>
> Do you know it this does register the product?

    When you start the program, does it show you the "Registered to <your
name>" in the box?  If not, well, the program hasn't been registered.
You have the code to register it, yes?  Just enter your name and the
code in the appropriate fields and it should works.

Salut,

    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
    ICQ #13376913
    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: [e-mail]                                   09-Oct-99 05:01:22
  To: rknebel#@uplink.net                               08-Oct-99 21:25:14
Subj: Re: cdwriter support

To: rknebel#@uplink.net
From: Alex Smariga <[e-mail]>

On 8 Oct 1999 18:24:06 -0500, Rick Knebel wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was just curious if there is a program that will support cdwriting under
>os2.
>
>I have a yamaha cd r/w/rw.
>

Rick,

There are several but the one I like and use the most is RSJ CDWriter.
You can get a demo from BMTMicro or Hobbes, and try it  out.  It's
pretty cool how it installs a file system to your writer and you write
to it as if it were a permanently mounted drive.

Alex


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