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COMMAND & CONQUER PART 6 [9-4]: What music should I listen to when playing? ===================================================== Van Halen, of course. What a silly question. Geesh. I hear rumors of some sickos listening to Stuck In The Middle With You. These are the same people who quote Reservoir Dogs at every opportunity. *9-5* Short stories from the C&C world ========================================= Vegard Vavik (vavikveg@telepost.no) Argh. The units in C&C can be _so_stupid_!!! I was playing Nod level 1- something, and I was currently holding a bridge. I was under heavy attack by infantry, and I wanted some flame-infantry to cross the bridge and take them out This happens: The three flamers I give order to cross the bridge, begins to move around my wounded tanks+artillery that is holding the bridge at my side. I look away from a moment, but suddenly I hear the "whoosh" from flamers flaming. I hurry back, and what do I see? A tree. They are flaming a tree that is in their way. Instead of going around it, they are attacking it. Before I manage to react, one of the flamers flame one of the other guys, which explodes. This ignites the tree, which then removes the rest of my flamers. Their explosions take out *two* of my wounded artillery which was right next to them; these explode and take out some other flamers, which also explodes and removes my only bazookamen. The enemy walks laughing into my base. Westwood... *Why, oh why is this*??? ------------------------------ CHAPTER [10]: Technical Issues ------------------------------ *10-1*: What determines my score? ==================================== Craig M. Kazial (kazial@acsu.buffalo.edu) Leadership is based on the number of units killed. Efficiency on ending cash (note, not the same as cash used). Time taken does NOT enter into final score and is only for your information. GDI scores the above two [L+E] higher when determining final score. Nod emphasizes simply accomplishing the mission (in other words, the L+E do not factor in much)... Terrorist style "who cares about the cost". Final score ONLY impacts how much cash is brought forward as a percentage ranging from a fixed minimum (enough to get started) to a max. allowable, so players can't become an unstoppable cash machine. Some scenarios zero-out score and all past cash allocation info is lost. *10-2*: What is the CONQUER.INI file? ======================================== The CONQUER.INI file sits on your hard disk in your C&C directory, and supplies C&C with startup values for various configuration items. Most of these startup values can be changed within C&C, but there are some that are only available by editing the file directly using a text editor. Robert J. Trembley (bob@cyrcle.com) deathannounce Default = 0 If set to 1, each time a GDI or NOD unit is lost, the female computer voice will state "GDI (or NOD) unit lost". It gets old kinda fast, and I rather prefer the screams... Alan Schneider (alschnei@starlink.com) Last night we found a new feature (?) in C&C. Editing the CONQUER.INI file .... and under the multiplayer section, change side=1 to side=3. What this apparently does, is allow both GDI and NOD to build EQUALLY, i.e.- NOD can build medium tanks (by first building a GDI Factory) and GDI can build NOD bikes (by first building an Airport) *10-3*: KALI related issues ============================== see also [15-3] KALI C&C SERVERS You can find out more about KALI at www.axxis.com. Nemesh (jcn8387@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) If you are planning on playing a lot of C&C over the net, you should try to get the latest copy of KALI. At this point, kali1.2e is out, and is an INCREDIBLE improvement over 1.1g. Everything is much faster, and the game almost never locks up. Check it out if you can (talk to someone on one of the servers...the kali.exe is around.) -xxx- Stephen Vakil (smvakil@students.wisc.edu) I finally got C&C (and KALI in general) to work... I'd like to say that when people were asking why it wasn't working, it wasn't very informative for people to say "it's a known bug.." without saying _what_ is a known bug. Basically, from what I can see, using any sort of slip tsr derived from the 16550 one will not work. It would cause frequent crashes on C&C, sometimes a reboot. I got pppshare from kali.jedi.net and got that to work, and that worked through 3 games of C&C and 1/2 hour of descent. -xxx- Jet (jet@aloha.com) KALI in Windows 95 Are you: - Ripping out your hair trying to get it to work??? - Ready to punch your computer monitor??? - About to grab your PC and throw it across the room??? - Seriously thinking of snapping the C&C disks in 1/2??? - Pissed off at how DOS conventional memory works? - Thinking the authors of these software programs are a**holes? !!!ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! <*sigh*> Don't do it... please... Everything can work. Just read this: Command & Conquer will work beautifully in Windows 95... and if you want to play it over the Internet, get KALI or ihhd(they will work great if you set them up right) I have a 486/66 16 megs of ram with a 2meg video card, and this is how I got it all to run in Windows 95: Making Command & Conquer run in Windows 95 0. make sure you have emm386.exe noems running in your config.sys make sure there are NO numbers after noems 1. Create an icon that shortcut's to C&C's RUNGAME.EXE file a. Start Explorer b. find RUNGAME.EXE c. Right click on it and left click on Copy d. Goto your desktop and right click and left click on Paste Shortcut e. Click on the icon. Then click on the text "Shortcut to Rungame" Type what you want it to be and hit enter. 2. Edit the C&C.EXE program properties a. Start Explorer b. find C&C.EXE c. right click on it d. choose Properties... e. click on the PROGRAM tab i. click on the Advanced... button ii. make sure MS-DOS mode is not checked iii. make sure Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows IS NOT checked. iv. Make sure NOTHING at all is checked. v. click on Ok f. click on the MEMORY tab i. make sure everything is auto ii. make sure Conventional memory is Protected iii. make sure Uses HMA is checked g. click on the SCREEN tab i. Usage = Window / Initial size=default ii. Make sure both setting in Window are checked iii. Make sure Fast ROM emulation is checked. iv. Make sure Dynamic memory allocation IS NOT checked. h. click on the MISC tab i. Uncheck everything except for the Windows shortcut keys ii. Idle sensitivity slider should be all the way Low. i. Click on OK 3. Goto the Control Panel a. Click on the Start Menu b. Choose Setting c. Click on Control Panel d. Double click on System e. Click on the Performance Tab i. click on the File System tab ii. click on the CD-ROM tab a. Set Supplemental cache size to Large b. Optimize access pattern for : Whatever speed your CD-ROM is c. Click on OK iii. Click on OK f. Close Control panel and reboot if it says to do so. 4. Double click on the icon you created on your desktop. 5. Play Command & Conquer! If it doesn't work, read the error messages. Modify your config.sys or autoexec.bat file. Search around in control panel and experiment. It's not working because you have something that isn't set optimally... not because Command & Conquer or Windows 95 "sux". Your settings suck, that's all there is to it. Learn how to set up your system. Learn how to CONTROL your system. Using Command & Conquer with KALI! 0. Set up KALI (you're on your own here, I'm not the KALI expert) a. Create a batch file that executes the dialer. Call this DIAL.BAT 1. Create and icon that shortcut's to your ppp or slip dialer. a. Right click on your desktop and choose New and click on Shortcut b. In the Command line, enter C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM and click on Next c. For the name, put Kali Session (DOS) d. Click on Finish 2. Edit the Icon's Properties. a. Right click on the new icon you created and click on Properties b. click on the PROGRAM tab i. Change the Working to whatever directory you keep Kali in For example: Working: C:/Kali ii. Change batch file to DIAL.BAT iii. Click on Advanced... iv. Make sure NOTHING is checked here v. Click on OK. c. click on the MEMORY tab i. make sure everything is auto except for Initial Environment Make Initial Environment = 1024 ii. make sure Conventional memory is NOT Protected iii. make sure Uses HMA is checked d. click on the SCREEN tab i. Usage = Window / Initial size=default ii. Make sure both setting in Window are checked iii. Make sure Fast ROM emulation is checked. iv. Make sure Dynamic memory allocation IS NOT checked. e. click on the MISC tab i. Uncheck everything except for the Windows shortcut keys ii. Idle sensitivity slider should be all the way Low. f. Click on OK 3. Double click on your new icon and you should be able to connect to a Kali server and run C&C. Make the Window FULL SCREEN to speed things up. If it doesn't work, try to figure out where you have a conflict or error. I spent days tweaking my system to get my programs to work. I have never said "Windows 95 sucks". Instead I say damn!!! I need to figure out how this thing works and configure it right! I wish I had more time, then I'd be able to get all my DOS games to work with Windows 95. Problems occur for a reason... and more than likely it isn't because "such & such sux!" Everybody's machine is different.. different hardware, different controllers, different amounts of ram... video modes, etc... I have helped many people successfully get their C&C and KALI working in Windows 95, and I am tired of trying to think of what is wrong with the other person's machine... especially when they are on the other side of the world and we are communicating through email or on the irc. Like I said, I have spent days tweaking (playing around with configurations and rebooting a million times) my system to get C&C to work with KALI. If this Document doesn't help you, you need to spend some time figuring things out on your own or you'll never learn. Hope this helps, jet@aloha.com http://www.aloha.com/~jet *10-4* How can run C&C off my hard disk? =========================================== ROGER'S NOTE: I wasn't sure whether or not to include this, but since there are plenty of legitimate reasons why you would want to do this, and because it's a frequently asked question, I have. Running C&C off the HD: step 1: install C&C like normal step 2: copy all the files from the root directory of the CD-ROM into the directory you just installed C&C into. step 3: now copy the general.mix file from the other CD-ROM into this directory as well (rename the first one before doing this). step 4: before playing C&C, make sure you have the general.mix file representing which side you want to play (I use gdi.mix and nod.mix as the filenames and rename one to general.mix depending on which side I want to play). ** step 5: ** Instead of typing C&C to start, type in C&C -cd<path> where path is the full path to the C& directory. ie.- If you installed C&C to c:\games\c&c, start the program by typing in: c&c -cdc:\games\c&c Notice that there is no space. You no longer have to have the CD-ROM loaded to play c&c. This takes up a little under 30M if you omit the video and music files. ================================== -SECTION THREE- MISSION STRATEGIES ================================== ------------------------------------- CHAPTER [11]: What is a mission tree? ------------------------------------- When playing C&C, sometimes you will be given a choice of countries to fight over. The hierarchical listing of these choices and the possible paths one may take is described as the mission tree. Andrew Griffin (buggy@adam.com.au) About the mission path, it seems that (for some countries), if there are multiple arrows into the same country, clicking on a different arrow will bring a different map layout. If you look at the option screen (press ESC from the game), above the version number is a group of numbers that represents which mission this is. [11-1]: GDI mission tree =========================== Andrew Griffin (buggy@adam.com.au) [4EA][5EA] [15EA] [1][2][3EA][4WA][5EB][6][7][8EA][9][10EA][11][12EA][13EA][14][15EB] [3EB][4WB][5WA] \---[8EB] [10EB] [12EB][13EB] [15EC] [5WB] [11-2]: Nod mission tree =========================== Andrew Griffin (buggy@adam.com.au) [6EA][7EA] [13EA] [1EA][2EA][3EA][4EA][5][6EB][7EB][8EA][9EA][10EA][11EA][12EA][13EB] [1EB][2EB][3EB][4EB] [6EC][7EC][8EB][9EB][10EB][11EB][12EB][13EC] ------------------------------------------- CHAPTER [12]: I'm stumped! Can you help me? ------------------------------------------- [12-1]: GDI missions ======================= [12-1-1]: GDI Mission 1, Estonia ----------------------------------- Objective: Use the units provided to protect the Mobile Construction Vehicle. (MCV) You should then deploy the MCV by double clicking on it. Then you can begin to build up a base. Start with a Power Plant. Finally, search out and destroy all enemy Nod units in the surrounding area. [blank] [12-1-2]: GDI Mission 2, Estonia ---------------------------------- Objective: Defend your position, deploy the MCV, then build a sizable force to search out and destroy the Nod base in the area. All Nod units and structures must be either destroyed or captured to complete objective. Build the MCV next to the barracks. Build a power station. Build a 2nd barracks. Crank out 20 to 30 minigunners. Group the minigunners into groups of ten. Scout the surrounding area using one of your hummers, but do not engage the enemy. If you come across soldiers, run your vehicle to your infantrymen to drag the enemy into an ambush. When attacking the base, it is best to form a two pronged attack. Have 1/3 your men attack from the west, and 2/3s of your men attack from the south. Move your engineers behind your main force. Have them capture the construction unit, the refinery, and the powerplant. Do not capture the refinery until the enemy harvester has returned to unload. This way, you capture the harvester as well. Destroy the remaining structures save for one tiberium silo. Build two more tiberium refineries, and tiberium silos as needed. You want to harvest the map clean of tiberium. Once all the tiberium is harvested, sell all the buildings for cash, and destroy the last remaining silo to finish the mission. You should end the mission with over 20,000 credits. Half of these funds will transfer to the next mission. [12-1-3ea]: GDI Mission 3ea, Latvia --------------------------------- Objective: Build up forces to destroy Nod base. Once all Nod SAM sites are neutralized then air support will be provided to combat obstacles such as turrets. Destroy all units and structures to complete the mission objective. [blank] [12-1-3eb]: GDI Mission 3eb, Latvia -------------------------------------- Objective: Same as previous [blank] [12-1-4ea]: GDI Mission 4ea, Belarus ------------------------------------- Objective: Nod has captured classified GDI property. You must find and retrieve the stolen equipment. It is being transported in a shipping create. Use the new APC to strategically transport infantry through Nod forces. Mark Willoughby (willocds@te.rl.ac.uk): :On the left of screen, there is a sea, but no Construct.Yard machine... :Then Nods comes and kills me, I've got only 2 APC, 4 grenadiers and :machinegunners. When reinforcements will come ? Explore in one turn, scrap the mission and start again. Load up the APCs and sprint for the base. De-bus south of the river, and try to take out the tank and the troopers. Once this force gets trashed, use the reinforcements to mop up the rest of the troops, and steal the crate back. Take advantage of the extra range the APCs have to avoid the Nod troops where possible. Hopefully once you get trashed in the first attack, the Noddies try to launch a counter attack which you sidestep, and fulfill your mission. Not too much fun this mission IMO. Although I did use this quick and dirty strategy. Lemming (lemming@globalone.net): I didn't unload my APC at all. Just loaded 'em up, and run like hell to the Nod base, tag the carton, and that's it. [12-1-4wa]: GDI Mission 4wa, Belarus --------------------------------------- Objective: Same as previous [blank] [12-1-4wb]: GDI Mission 4wb, Poland -------------------------------------- Objective: Nod is moving to capture and hold a civilian town. Your mission is to reach the town first and hold off invading Nod units until GDI reinforcements can arrive. All invading Nod units must be destroyed. [blank] [12-1-5ea]: GDI Mission 5ea, Germany --------------------------------------- Objective: A GDI field base is under attack. They have fended off one attack but will not survive another. Move to the base, repair the structures and then launch a strike force to destroy the Nod base in the area. Destroy all Nod units and structures. James Chiu (hcbus003@huey.csun.edu) Harry F. Harrison (harryh@teleport.com) :Level 5: What a pain in the $#$#! to finish. I thought it was standard :Dune defense, then offense strategy, but the computer comes with waves :at you. Try this: blockade your right entrance (to your camp) with :4+ turrets (should be sufficient, as computer rarely sends tanks to If you build near the hills, they only have a small opening to attack you with. You can get away with 2 turrets. One of the first things I build is a second harvester in this mission. I am usually able to do it just as the first patch of tiberium is gone. By the time I am ready to attack, I will have 4 harvesters going, with one about dead. :) :hat you have to destroy the buildings AND all of the units. I thought :of an interesting solution. I send a Hum-Vee through the "middle" of :the camp, which bore a path through it. Then I followed this with a :very fast APC containing two engineers and some grenadiers. Target two :important structures next to each other: the construction yard and :the refinery. Without a refinery, no Tiberium, without a construction Go in from the upper right side, you can capture the hand of Nod very easily there. Engineers are very useful, I was able to take over all the enemy buildings, a great plus when getting the silos. [12-1-5eb]: GDI Mission 5eb, Germany --------------------------------------- Objective: Same as previous [blank] [12-1-5wa]: GDI Mission 5wa, Germany --------------------------------------- Objective: Same as previous See [12-1-5ea]. [12-1-5wb]: GDI Mission 5wb, Germany --------------------------------------- Objective: Same as previous [blank] *12-1-6*: GDI Mission 6, Czech Republic ------------------------------------------ Objective: Use a GDI Commando to infiltrate the Nod base. **** ** destroy the ******** so that the base is incapacitated. Get in, hit it, and get the **** out. Andre Pang (ozone@zip.com.au) Easiest way I found to do this (and it was very easy!) is after the Chinook arrives, land to the left of the village/flare. With the commando, march him up and left in the pass, so you enter the base from the left. The AI should start sending many troops to attack the Chinook, and your commando will probably get hassled by a light tank or Nod buggy. There is one SAM site southwest of the base by itself; get your commando to take it out, then send the Chinook in to pick him up, and drop him off inside, to the left of the base (the chopper can just withstand two shots from the one SAM site in the southwest corner of the base). Run up and right, and blow up the airstrip. Matt Ho (matt@romulus.internex.net) Take out the SAM site on the island to get your transport off. Have the commando run around the edge of the map and take out the infantry and SAM sites on the edge. Bring your transport to your commando by following the path that the commando made. Send your commando at the base. A ton of troops will start pouring out. Pick off the lead infantry to give yourself more time and then run like Hades. The tanks and buggies should come out to chase you. Send the transport in to extract you. Once you're airborne, fly into the enemy base toward the top edge. A SAM will probably peg your transport a few times ... ignore it and go on ... Drop the dude down and have him dash for the airstrip (or whatever it was ... I forget) and nuke it. David Hulet (d.hulet@ix.netcom.com) It's best to work north then east once you cross the river in your transport chopper. Jumping from location to location in the chopper also works well to confuse the patrolling buggies. Once in the base what ever building you take out will not be there for the cleanup mission. It's best to take out the tiberium refinery. AI does not rebuild and so Nod runs out of money quickly! [12-1-7]: GDI Mission 7, Czech Republic ------------------------------------------ Objective: Previous mission objective not complete. Airfield was to be targeted. New objective: Build up a base and Destroy remaining Nod structures and units. Reinforcements will be provided. Rick Murray (hrmiii@ct.net) Once reinforcements land, proceed due north, continue past the first tiberium. You will find another field. Establish your base just south of the field. Build guard towers(mostly on the north side of the base) and hoard your forces on the south side of base. The towers will handle most all that the NOD will send your way. You will need to destroy the gun turret, which can be found by following the northernmost boundary. After you have destroyed the turret, use what ever you have left to attack the north wall of the NOD base. The purpose at this point is just to open up an easier route of attack. After building a considerable amount of forces, I used 6 tanks, 5 APCs mostly with grenadiers, 4 Hummers, and about twenty grenadiers on foot. Stage your forces north of the tiberium field which is to the east of the base. Send in the Hummers first. Set two outside and just north of the main entrance to the base and the other two. Use the hole you made in the wall and send to the center of the base mostly as a diversion of sorts. Do not immediately attack the Hand of Nod. Time it out where the tanks and APCs follow the Hummers through the hole. Dispatch two APCs and foot soldiers to dispatch the tanks within the compound( your route of entry leads directly to their parking area). Send the rest of your force on around north and attack the airfield and power plants in this area. This strategy seems to reduce the amount of resistance encountered while attacking this base. [12-1-8ea]: GDI Mission 8ea, Austria --------------------------------------- Objective: UN Sanction has cut funding to the Global Defense Initiative. Field Units are helpless. Use the repair facility to keep your units in the field long enough to destroy the Nod base in this region. All Nod units and structures must be destroyed. Tim Hardy (drtmh01@nt.com) If this is the mission I am thinking about, I found a technique that is extremely effective and easy, and I haven't heard it mentioned yet. If you clear out the meager troops straight above the base, then all the way to the top and over to the left, you'll find a cliff overlooking the Nod base (you'll also be able to kill most of the SAM sites). From this cliff your rocket launchers can pound the heck out of his airfield, several silos, and the Hand of Nod, as well as the infantry he tries to mass there. The cool thing is he never figures out how to get to your rocket launchers. You can kill every single one of his mobile forces and ability to produce mobile forces without losing any of your units. Then can just walk in the base with bells on. Jason Thomas (hiro@mill2.millcomm.com) That's the same thing I did. I think the AI wants to stay close to home because its base is under attack, but once you destroy the airstrip, no more vehicles. Once it's all gone, you can leave one rocket vehicle up there and about ten bazooka guys, and just blast the crap out of anything that gets built as it's coming up. Also humvees are pretty good against infantry so you can keep one of those up there to provide machine-gun support. I wasted about 3 hours playing this mission and dying, before I discovered this technique. In Aikido and other "soft" martial arts, there's a principle of never meeting force with force. In other words, when the enemy attacks, you should let your forces fall back a bit to surround and absorb. In attack, don't keep hammering a strong point, but use recon to find enemy weak points and then strike hard. It's a lot easier in the long run than just throwing cannon fodder into the meatgrinder.