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COMMAND & CONQUER PART 5

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CHAPTER:[6] Offensive tips
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[6-1]: How do I destroy?
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[6-1-1]: Obelisks of light
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Lynda Myer ([e-mail])
     Nod obelisks are usually what my opponent keeps putting in to defend
their  base, but they just never learn!   Nod obelisks take so much power.
If  you can take out a power center with an Ion Blast, the entire base
usually  goes down, and you can walk right in!

Mike Mulligan ([e-mail])
     An ever better way to take out the Obelisks are the SSM units!  There
range is great then the Obelisks...they can just keep lobbing rockets on it
without being hit!  Try it, it works!  The only thing though is you have to
protect them!  It doesn't take much to kill and SSM, one recon bike can end
the bombardment really fast!  So have 2 or 3 SSM and 2 mini tanks as
guards....works great!

Douglas William Cole ([e-mail])
     (1) Air raid it if there are no SAM sites around (fat chance).
     (2) Overwhelm it with minigunners.  (It can only pick off one at a
time...  so just swamp it with guys and you'll come out on top with minimal
casualties)
     (3)  Take out the power supply.

     Whatever you do, DON'T bring any kind of armor in there.  You'll
get nowhere fast.

[6-1-2]: Flame-throwers
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Lee Beng Hai ([e-mail])
     Use minigunners, but do not send them together... keep them separated,
usually 2 or 3 minigunners from different direction can take out a flame
thrower easily. Send them one at a time will work but you'll have more
casualties.

[6-1-3]: Gun turrets using Orcas
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Casey Robinson ([e-mail])
     First, attack the turret with just one Orca, it will damage the turret,
but not so much that the computer repairs it.  Then hit it with both Orcas,
leaving it a pile of rubble.

[6-1-4]: Most vehicles without getting squashed
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Stephan Lau ([e-mail])
     I find that when I "surround" an enemy harvester or tank with my men,
the AI usually ends up spinning the vehicle endlessly around; apparently it
doesn't have a single train of thought. So if you attack in groups, you can
"confuse" the vehicle enough so that you don't get run over. Make sure you
have some mini-gunners nearby for that annoying following infantry.

[6-1-5]: Tanks in general
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Stephan Lau ([e-mail])
     (1) Don't take on tanks head on, use the APCs to lure them into your
killing zone;

     (2) In the kill zone, place mini-gunners up front for use the described
single attack, place grenadiers behind as a main line of defense, and have
three or four bazooka guys behind to take on the tanks;

     (3) Once the tanks gets into the zone and enemy infantry have been
mostly eliminated, surround the tanks with your grenadiers in the "circle of
death"

[6-1-6]: Flame Tanks
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Stephan Lau ([e-mail])
     Use your Orcas against these guys to soften them up. Assign a very
expensive medium tank or two take them on; send the tank back to your repair
shop for immediate reconditioning.

[6-1-7]: Mammoth tanks
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Douglas William Cole ([e-mail])
     (1) Air strikes are always nice.
     (2) 5+ infantry guys should take a single one out easily.  DON'T
forget to keep hitting the 'X' key to scatter your troops when it gets too
close for comfort.
     (3)  Stealth tanks.  I've seen 3 do it, but use 4 or 5 to be safe.

     Mammoths actually aren't that great, they just have a lot of hit points.
Use infantry on it if you can rather than armor, though...

[6-1-8]: SAM sites
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Thenardier ([e-mail])
     Beside the Obelisk of light, the other structures which people would
most possibly like to destroy are SAM sites. SAM sites have really strong
armor and long bar of health. One strategy of taking down SAM sites is to fly
an Orca close to it. When you see the cover open, blast it with the ION
CANNON.

Zeff Yusof ([e-mail])
     Try taking out the SAMs with 4 Orcas at once, all 4 will survive. If
there are two sites within striking distance use two waves, one for each -
you'll get back unscathed.

[6-1-9]: Strong bases
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Rune Fostervoll ([e-mail])
     Three tactics work.(At least.).

     One is to attack him through his harvesters. He will usually have more
than one working, and can usually get more even if you attack all you find,
so it could take some while. But eventually this will cripple him. Then you
can pick him off at leisure. But, especially early, destroying a harvester
can bring an all-out attack. Be prepared for it.

     The other tactic is to attack with an attack not designed to destroy his
base, but to cripple part of it. Stealth tanks are good at this. The
construction center is usually the first priority, then the refinery, then
the unit builders.

     Thirdly.. no base is perfect. It has a weakness. Find it, and exploit
it. A back entrance, a cliff overhang, something should be there.

[6-1-10]: Harvesters
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Tucson Luke Loh ([e-mail])
     While its true that when you attack a harvester the enemy sends a huge
force after you, they comprise mostly infantry so an adequate defense will
easily mop them up and pay huge dividends i.e. lots of troops lost on the
enemy side vs. few (if any) of your own. Of course, please make sure you have
adequate defenses first. Strategy works best if you are NOD (with an Obelisk
and a turret or two).

[6-2]: The spiderbase strategy
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Jim Varner ([e-mail])
     I developed a strategy for Dune2 I call the spider base, and it works
just fine in C&C. The concept is simple, build a sandbag wall from your base
to your opponents.  Then start building turrets right in the middle of their
base.  It is tedious and expensive, but it is sometimes the only way to
destroy the enemy in those SERIOUS wars of attrition.  You can also use your
wall to block off choke points. You see, the AI doesn't recognize walls as
targets so you can build a sandbag fort right in the middle of their base,
just have plenty of $$$ for replacement turrets though. All's fair in love
and war...  Exploit your enemies weakness...  I am NOT cheating!!!! OK, It is
cheating.

*6-3*: How do I drain the computer's funds?
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Drone ([e-mail])
     I just send a few units to bomb or shoot at the SAM sites.  Not enough
to ever destroy them but enough so the computer just repairs them until its
broke.  I'm sure a human would never fall for this.

Andre Pang ([e-mail])
     If playing against the computer, you take over a base and he still has
another construction site somewhere, sell the tiberium silos which he had (or
make sure that spot is vacant so he can build there again). Occasionally the
AI will build another one there, usually full of money. Send an engineer to
capture it. Repeat process. This will only work if the silos are surrounded
by his own structures, so it might be an idea not to capture the buildings
around them, if possible.

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CHAPTER [7]: Miscellaneous tips
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[7-1]: How do I sell my infantry/vehicles?
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David Hulet  ([e-mail])
      A Westwood bug that turned into a feature for us.  You can sell
infantry, vehicles and even civilians!  Build a sand bag and move the unit as
close to the sand bag as you can.  Click on the sell button.  Move the cursor
over to the sand bag. Move the twirling dollar sign as far away from the sand
bag (toward the unit) as you can without it loosing its rotating property.
while its spinning near the unit click and sell him down the river!!!!  This
is a great way to make money if you are seriously down and out and about to
get your butt kicked.  It takes a little practice to figure out, but once you
have done it the first time its simple.

JiaTyan Chen ([e-mail])
     You don't even need sandbags.  Move the unit to the left, right, or
below (I suppose above would do as well but awfully difficult to click) a
structure that you can sell.  Spin the $ from the structure to the personnel.
You know you've reach the correct pixel (from the left & right)when there's a
pop-up telling you what kind of personnel that it.
Time to sell!

Frank Wen-heh Lee ([e-mail])
     If you put the unit in the repair bay (no infantry, of course), click
sell, and move the cursor over the unit, a little green $ will appear. You
can sell the unit for half-price.

[7-2]: How do I control Orcas in mid-flight?
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     Group the Orcas. You can then select the Orcas using the group keys and
give them orders, even when they are in flight.

[7-3]: Why should I destroy villages?
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[e-mail]
     Why destroy the villages as a Nod?  Cause you are thanked by not only
the screams of villagers and the sight of torched buildings as you flame
them, but you also get crates hidden in some buildings as well. (Gave me a
lot of money it did....)

[7-4]: How do I make a convoy?
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Seth Hutchins ([e-mail])
     When you've got a group of units, and want them to follow one another in
a "single-file" style grouping, make use of the CONTROL+ALT key combination
like this...

 1. Send the leader towards destination.
 2. Control+Alt Click on the next unit to follow him
 3. Repeat 2 until you have your group

     This tactic can be altered to get an interesting "circling patrol"
effect out of Hummers, Buggies, and Tanks.

 1. Select a "lead" unit.
 2. Control+Alt Click the next unit.
 3. Repeat 2 until you have all but one of the units in your group.
 4. Control+Alt Click the LAST unit on the leader.

     This can annoy your opponent on the modem, and is a decent way to patrol
an area. It works well (for me) in closed spaces.

ROGER'S NOTE:  This technique can also be used to keep faster units from
traveling too quickly.  Make all the faster units 'guard' the slowest unit in
the group (e.g.- mammoth tank) and wherever you move the unit, the faster
units will follow at the same speed.

[7-5]: How do I get rid of trees?
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Craig M. Kazial ([e-mail])
    You can destroy trees. However it has to be just one lone tree. In other
words, you can not destroy a clump of trees.  It is not really useful except
if you need to place port of a base at a location that the tree is at.
Usually grenadiers and rocket launchers are the best to destroy trees.

[7-6]: How do I hide under trees?
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Richard Lio ([e-mail])
     Well, you can do it.  Select your unit to move past the tree.  When your
unit is under cover, hit 's' to stop the unit.  Your unit will be behind the
tree and invisible to other human eyes. :)  My friend does that often in
multi-player games.

[7-7]: How do I stop the computer from rebuilding?
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Michael Stango ([e-mail])
     Park a vehicle on the spot where an enemy building or turret was, so it
can't be rebuilt there.

[7-8]: How do I keep my harvesters from gathering all the tiberium?
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     Put a vehicle on a patch of tiberium. The harvester won't be able to get
to it. The tiberium patch will then regrow around it. If you have a blossom
tree, parking a vehicle is not necessary because tiberium will begin to
sprout around the tree.

*7-9*: How do I get nukes in the last Nod mission?
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ROGER'S NOTE: There is a bug in C&C versions prior to 1.18 that disable nuke
usage regardless of what crates are picked up.

VT ([e-mail])
     To use nukes, building the Temple of Nod is not enough. You'll need to
get the crates in missions 6, 8, and 12.  You may have to capture or destroy
some of the buildings to get at the crates.

Jon Osborn ([e-mail])
     One of the crates is in the mission where you have to take over the
enemy base then destroy the base to the north of it.  The crate is in the
base. Once in the base go left to the Orca pads, then just above them is a
fence just destroy it and get the crate.

ROGER'S NOTE: The aforementioned mission is Nod mission eight. The crate on
Nod mission 12 is underneath the GDI construction yard. Blow it up, don't
capture it.

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CHAPTER(8]: Player tactics
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[8-1]: Hiroshima's Tactics Papers
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Hiroshima ([e-mail])

[8-1-1]: GDI Tactics paper
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     I am working on a GDI tactics paper and I would like input on it.  I
basically outline strengths and weaknesses of each unit and good tactics to
use each unit with.

     Also I am working on a list of special-purpose battlegroups composed of
units that complement each others' strengths. In other words, for GDI
infantry, a good general-purpose squad might be composed of the following:
2 minigunners
1 grenadier
2 bazookas

     This is a versatile squad and would be able to deal with most light
vehicles and probably with a specialized squad, say a squad of all bazookas
(the minigunners would take them) or even possibly a squad of flamers.

     A light patrol/recon force might consist of a humvee followed up by a
bazooka squad.  The humvee would drive short distances and find cover for the
infantry, then would wait while they advanced, still a bit behind it.  If it
ran into opposition, say a single tank or a tank and a Nodbuggy, it would
flee back past the infantry, possibly leading the vehicles into a trap.

     A combat patrol, however, would expect to run into some opposition. You
might keep one of these within striking distance of several of your light
patrols in case they ran into something they couldn't handle.  That way, the
light patrol could attempt to delay the heavier force long enough for the
combat patrol to get there and mop up.  A combat patrol might consist of the
following:
1 humvee
1 medium tank
2 APCs, each containing a multipurpose squad.
1 rocket artillery

     I think that having standardized units would allow you to tailor your
production according to certain standard force-size goals, i.e. I might want
ten multipurpose squads, four patrol squads, et cetera.  This standardization
would allow you to incorporate smaller attack forces into specific roles in a
major assault.

     In other words, I might have an assault consisting of the following:
Outer pincers/advance forces, one forward-right of the main force, one
forward left:
(actually each of these might be a combat patrol force).

     Each jaw of the pincer would be directed to take out an enemy turret to
give the main force less flanking fire.

     The spearhead would consist of two mammoth tanks each flanked by an
echelon of three medium tanks.  This would direct the brunt of enemy fire at
the mammoth tanks.  Mammoth tanks can take a lot and two of them will
probably at the very least break a wall, allowing the medium tanks to get in
there.

     Meanwhile, the third wave, perhaps five rocket artillery, would be
providing fire support for the spearhead.  The rocket arty would not
penetrate but would form a firing line outside the walls, starting in on the
enemy buildings.  The tanks would now begin taking out specific targets.  If
the opponent had a Nod obelisk, I'd avoid hitting that and instead
concentrate on silos and powerplants.  Without silos, he has no money, and if
you only knock out a few powerplants, the obelisk is going to be draining his
powergrid.  SAM sites would also be prime targets.

     The fourth wave would consist of APCs with multipurpose squads and
engineer units.  The APCs would disgorge infantry and would begin mopping up.

     This is all very neat and dandy, but it would not be easy to assemble
this kind of force all at once and run it all the way from your base.  That's
why I like the idea of a modular attack force that is composed of other
forces as it approaches the base, like a river gains strength from its
tributaries.

[8-1-2]: Nod Tactics paper
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[8-2]: Blue Aardvark's Anti-Crummy AI Tactics
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Phil Sykes ([e-mail])
     Punch a hole in their wall where they aren't expecting it. They won't
react unless you attack buildings, and you can waltz through, and they still
won't react until you open fire (N.B. Turrets will!)

     Go up on a hill behind or beside the enemy base (every other enemy base
has one that isn't guarded very well)

     APC engineer assaults.
     Load up your APC, and have two Hummers ready. Select a safe forward
staging post to meet the squad up. If you haven't got recon on their
perimeter defenses, do that now, but DON'T attract enemy attention to the
massed armor, cos they'll die. Group all of the units together, and send the
APC in AFTER the Hummers, straight through the main gate, or a hole in the
wall (much preferred) if you made one.

     Don't worry about:
     Light tanks, troops (except flame-throwers and minigunners close to the
engineers final objective - run them over if you can)

     Do worry a bit about:
     Gun turrets, obelisk tips - the Hummers are there as a sacrifice, and
the APC can (just) survive one Obelisk hit!

     Hopefully if and when your APC dies, you'll have got close enough so
they can't fire again on the engineer.

Do worry a lot about:
     Flame tanks and artillery, and I suppose stealth tanks (never faced them
defensively), near the objective.

     All of these eat APCs and engineers for breakfast. If possible, go for
another objective, or abort the mission until you can draw them out or
confuse them.

     Targets:

     (1) VITAL to take out the construction yard, first, or any captured
buildings can just be rebuilt. He will *NOT* be running out of money at this
stage (if he is, why aren't you doing a mass assault??)  He ISN'T restrained
by building coherency rules on later levels (can build anywhere he did build)

     (2) Vehicle yard (he's still got money, remember, so not much use in
removing his spice yard just yet, cos he'll have enough for loads of
vehicles.

     (3) Refinery (hurt him bad, but remember he's got a huge strategic
reserve of cash). This is good for money, especially if there's a harvester
in it at the time

     (4) Hand of Nod. These are VERY difficult to actually get an engineer
close to, but worth it. Capture it and churn out a couple of flame-throwers
to hold it for a bit.

     (5) Power Plants / Spice silos / whatever else
     Take 'em for money. Easier and cheaper to blow em up, but shutting down
obelisk power can be useful.

     Interesting things to try:

     Draw 'em out: Send a recon unit inside the base, shoot someone and run
out. He will follow you to his doom.

     Lead enemy troopers across tiberium field, they will follow in droves
and die.

     The Nod base, on every level has at least one tactical weak point.
Things to look out for:
     (1) Wide entrances - unguarded or with no turret guards.
     (2) Hills to the side or rear of the base that can be used for assaults
without being directly hit with base defenses.
     (3) Weak spots where there are no defenses round a wall
     (4) Having two bases, one big and well defended the other not. Take over
the one that isn't well defended, and built some advanced guard towers to
defend. This will really annoy them
     (5) Harvesters going a long way from home - blow them up, and more will
be built. If you can get them every time, then they will continue to waste
their money!

     Retaliation: Sometimes after a successful engineer raid or limited
attack, they will retaliate by going after your harvester. Make sure they
don't get this chance by keeping the harvester in the base following a
limited attack, or light tanks will hunt it down

     Tiberium field guarding: Often, the enemy will send rocket troops or
tanks to guard spice fields. Sometimes, the troops will keep dying trying to
get to the tiberium field, and they will be replaced indefinitely.

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CHAPTER[9]: Confucius say:
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[9-1]: Who the heck is Confucius?
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     A Chinese philosopher who lived and died a very long time ago. His most
famous philosophy is 'Don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you.'
His philosophy was one of passivity and inaction. People who follow
Confucianism are called Confucianists. For some reason, lots of fortunes on
those cheap cookies that come with my Chinese food are attributed to him.

     Confucius wouldn't have cared much for C&C. Therefore, I am not a
Confucianist.

[9-2]: Words to live and die by
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Casey Robinson ([e-mail])
     Don't do the same thing 30 times in a row, have it fail every time, and
not change plans.  It doesn't work.

Phil Sykes ([e-mail])
      Recon is like sex. When it's good, it's VERY good, but when it's bad,
it's better than nothing.

[incomplete]

[9-3]: What are Murphy's Laws of Combat?
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     If the enemy is in range, so are you.
     Incoming fire has the right of way.
     Don't look conspicuous, it draws fire.
     There is always a way.
     The easy way is always mined.
     Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo.
     The enemy invariably attacks on two occasions:
       a. when you're ready for them.
       b. when you're not ready for them.
     Teamwork is essential, it gives them someone else to shoot at.
     The enemy diversion you have been ignoring will be the main attack.
     If your attack is going well, you have walked into an ambush.
     Never draw fire, it irritates everyone around you.
     Anything you do can get you shot, including nothing.
     Make it tough enough for the enemy to get in and you won't be able to
       get out.
     Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than yourself.
     If you're short of everything but the enemy, you're in a combat zone.
     When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.
     Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder.
     Friendly fire isn't.
     If the sergeant can see you, so can the enemy.
     Remember, a retreating enemy is probably just falling back and
       regrouping.
     If at first you don't succeed call in an air-strike.
     Exceptions prove the rule, and destroy the battle plan.
     The enemy never watches until you make a mistake.
     One enemy soldier is never enough, but two is entirely too many.
     The more a weapon costs, the farther you will have to send it away to be
       repaired.
     Field experience is something you don't get until just after you need
       it.
     No matter which way you have to march, its always uphill.
     The one item you need is always in short supply.
     Airstrikes always overshoot the target, artillery always falls short.
     When you have sufficient supplies & ammo, the enemy takes 2 weeks to
       attack. When you are low on supplies & ammo the enemy decides to
       attack that night.
     Suppressive fires - won't.
     If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
     When in doubt empty the magazine.
     No plan survives the first contact, intact.
     If you are forward of your position, the artillery will fall short.
     The important things are always simple.
     The simple things are always hard.
     Beer Math -> 2 beers time 37 men equals 49 cases.
     Body count math -> 3 guerrillas plus 1 probable plus 2 pigs equals 37
       enemies killed in action.
     Tracers work both ways.
     The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming
       friendly fire.
     If you take more than your share of objectives, you will have more than
       your fair share to take.
     When both sides are convinced they are about to lose, they're both
       right.