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From cmg Thu Sep 19 16:00:24 1991
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 91 16:00:23 EDT
From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
To: Info-Kermit
Subject: Info-Kermit Digest V14 #6
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Info-Kermit Digest Thu, 19 Sep 1991 Volume 14 : Number 6
Today's Topics:
Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 2.32/A for Chinese DOS
MS-DOS Kermit 3.11 Questions and Answers
Mac Kermit Questions and Answers
Kermit Files Slightly Reorganized
Character Set Files and Utilities
Digest submissions may be sent to Info-Kermit@WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU or
KERMIT@CUVMA.BITNET. Requests for addition to or deletion from the
Info-Kermit subscriber list should be sent to LISTSERV@CUVMA.BITNET or
LISTSERV@CUVMA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU. These messages must be of the form:
SUBSCRIBE I-KERMIT <your-personal-name> (To start a subscription)
UNSUBSCRIBE I-KERMIT (To cancel a subscription)
REGISTER I-KERMIT <your-personal-name> (To correct your name)
Kermit files may be obtained over networks and by mail order. On the
Internetwork, use FTP to log in to host WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU, a SUN-4/280
running UNIX (SUNOS 4.1), IP host number 128.59.39.2. Login as user anonymous
(note, lower case), any password, and GET or MGET (MULTIPLE GET) the desired
files. The Kermit files are in directories kermit/a, kermit/b, kermit/c,
kermit/d, and kermit/e. Test versions are in kermit/test. All files in these
directories should be transferred in text (ASCII) mode. Binaries are in
kermit/bin (use ftp in binary mode). You can also get Kermit files over the
BITNET/EARN network; to get started send a message with text HELP to KERMSRV,
the Kermit file server, at host CUVMA. For detailed instructions, read the
file kermit/a/aanetw.hlp (AANETW.HLP on KERMSRV). To order by mail, request a
complete list of Kermit versions and an order form from Kermit Distribution,
Columbia University Center for Computing Activities, 612 West 115th Street,
New York, NY 10025 USA.
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1991 15:28:00 EDT
>From: Quanfang Zhang <BMAZUNET@ICA.BEIJING.CANET.CN>
Subject: Announcing MS-DOS Kermit 2.32/A for Chinese DOS
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 2.32/A, Chinese DOS
I have translated MS-DOS Kermit Version 2.32/A into a Chinese version which
is called CC-DOS Kermit (CCKermit, the prompt is Kermit-CC) and can run under
either MS-DOS or CC-DOS (Chinese Code DOS). When CC-Kermit runs under
MS-DOS, it is exactly the same as MS-DOS Kermit 2.32/A, but when it runs
under CC-DOS, all messages on the display are Chinese and the screen display
mode is also modified. So if you know Chinese but little English, you can
also operate this Kermit successfully.
There are a lot of versions of CC-DOS, such as LIANXIAN, STCDOS, CCDOS213,
GWCDOS and so on, and among these versions many differences exist in the
screen display modes. CC-Kermit can properly run on most CC-DOS versions.
In case you find it can't run on your machine, please let me know. I would
like to help you and make the program more satisfactory.
If you find bugs, please contact me. I am going to do my best on this project
as time permits.
Quanfang Zhang
Computer Network Research Lab
Department of Computer Science & Engineering
Zhejiang University
Hangzhou 310027
PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA
Tel: (571)572244 ext 2400 or (571)761211
Email: BMAZUNET@ICA.BEIJING.CANET.CN
[Ed. - Hsei hsei, Quanfang Zhang! Your Chinese DOS Kermit has been added
to the "C" area of the Kermit Distribution collection, as files CC*.*.
Also, in ~kermit/bin/ on watsun only, the binary executables: ccvibm.exe,
and ccvcga.exe (EGA and CGA versions, respectively). The file ccaaaa.hlp
gives more information about this version. The other files are organized
exactly like the MS-DOS Kermit files. Many thanks for this contribution!]
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 1991 12:00:00 EDT
>From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: MS-DOS Kermit 3.11 Questions and Answers
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 3.11
There has been an avalanche of mail about MS-DOS Kermit 3.11 over the past
few days. Here are the most common questions, and some answers. Much of
this is now noted in a slightly updated MSKERM.BWR file.
Q: Why can't I pick up the entire IBM PC 3.11 distribution in one file?
A: See the message on this topic in Info-Kermit V4 #2 about this.
However, by popular demand, the IBM PC version of MS-DOS Kermit 3.11 is
now available for binary-mode FTP from watsun as a ZIP archive:
kermit/bin/msvibm.zip. This file contains all the files that are on
the distribution disk, plus a copy of the Digest announcement. Thanks
to Joe Doupnik for putting the ZIP archive together!
Q: I got MSVIBM.BOO from Kermit Distribution, and it was the Sept 6 version,
rather than the Sept 7 version.
A: As of 8:15PM EDT, Sept 17, MSVIBM.BOO is the correct (Sept 7) version.
Those who picked up this file before that time should replace it. The
Sept 6 version cannot be patched. The Sept 7 version fixes this problem.
The kermit/bin/msvibm.exe file on watsun was correct, however, and need
not be replaced.
Q: My old script program doesn't work any more. All my OUTPUT commands,
which I abbreviated to "O", stopped working.
A: Version 3.11 includes a new OPEN command, so O is no longer a sufficient
abbreviation for OUTPUT. Make sure all your OUTPUT commands are
abbreviated to at least "OU", and your OPEN commands to "OP".
Q: Why can't I make a TCP/IP connection with Kermit when I am also running
PC-NFS?
A: Because the packet driver allows each protocol (such as ARP, RARP, IP,
UDP, IPX, etc) to be used by only one application at a time. This is a
limitation of packet drivers.
Q: Why can't Kermit make TCP/IP connections over SLIP, Appletalk, or Token
Ring packet drivers?
A: Because the code for this has not been written. Kermit only knows how
to talk to Ethernet-class (Class 1) packet drivers. Support for the
others, as well as built-in support for ODI and NDIS, are major
development efforts.
Q: I can't make Kermit work with the Clarkson DEPCA.COM packet driver and
a DEC DEPCA Ethernet board.
A: We have had several reports like this. So far nobody has reported
success with this one. Make sure you read the installation
instructions for the DEPCA packet driver -- it needs several special
command-line parameters, and care must be taken that the default
hardware interrupt number, 5, is not already used by some other device
on your PC, like a disk drive or a printer port. If anybody has had
success with the DEPCA, please send a report.
Q: I can't get Kermit to make TCP/IP connections with the Harvard ODIPKT
driver on a Token Ring network.
A: This would require additional coding in Kermit to understand Token Ring
framing. Kermit does work with ODIPKT over Ethernet.
Q: I can't assemble the file MSNTNI.ASM. I get three errors "Cannot
address with segment register".
A: This error occurs with newer releases of Microsoft MASM. A new copy of
the file MSNTNI.ASM has been installed that corrects this error, but
which does not change the Kermit program in any way, and still works with
MASM 5.0.
Q: Where do I get DIS_PKT?
A: (Msg from Joe Doupnik): There are two DIS_PKT'S, mine and FTP Software
Inc's. Mine is in an archive named DIS_PKT.TXT (uuencoded) or DIS_PKT.ZIP
(same, PKZIP'd) on my VMS VAX, NETLAB.USU.EDU 129.123.1.11 in directories
[.NOVELL] and [.NETWATCH]. FTP Inc's archive is named DIS_PTK.GUP (a
nonsense phrase so we can tell apart our two renditions) on their VAX,
VAX.FTP.COM. I know mine works fine with almost everything, particularly
AT&T StarGROUP. My archive has a long how-to section with three example
setups. Recall that configuring Lan Manager material is a fine art.
Fortunately adding DIS_PKT is really simple (one line in CONFIG.SYS, a
half dozen in PROTOCOL.INI). My samples show choices for WD8003E, 3C503,
and AT&T EN100 boards. Feel free to raid my cookie jars.
Q: Why does the new MSKERMIT.INI give lots of error message when used with the
generic DOS Kermit version, MSVGEN.EXE?
A: It doesn't any more. An updated version of MSKERMIT.INI is now available,
which tests to make sure it is executing on an IBM PC or compatible before
it tries to execute IBM-specific commands like SET TERMINAL.
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 1991 13:00:00 EDT
>From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Mac Kermit Questions and Answers
Keywords: Mac Kermit
I have had literally thousands of inquiries about Mac Kermit in recent
months, many more than I can answer personally. Let me try to summarize
the situation very briefly for everybody.
Q: Why doesn't (cut and paste, printing, etc etc etc etc etc) work in
0.97(57), 0.98(63), 0.99(91), etc etc etc? Why doesn't Mac Kermit work
right under System 7? Why are the fonts messed up? Why isn't parity
restored when I launch from a settings file? Why do settings files created
by different releases of Mac Kermit not call up the appropriate release
when I open them? Why are the key mappings for certain keys like Ctrl-@
messed up? How do I type international characters? Why doesn't flow
control work? Why does Mac Kermit always hang up when I quit? etc etc.
A: The last official release of Mac Kermit was 0.9(40). Any version
with a higher number is a test release, to be used at your own risk.
The new Mac OS, System 7, came out after 0.9(40) and seems to have
broken several of Mac Kermit's features.
Q: When will we see a new release of Mac Kermit?
A: Soon, I hope. Our previous Macintosh volunteer programmer, Paul Placeway,
has retired from Mac Kermit development after several years of hard work
and invaluable contributions. Several new developers have recently come
forward, but it will take some time to come up with a new release that has
the features you want, works with a wide range of Macintosh models,
keyboards, and systems, and is well documented. In the meantime, we have a
very comprehensive list of bugs to correct and features to add, and this
work is in progress. Watch Info-Kermit for announcements of test releases.
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 1991 13:00:00 EDT
>From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Kermit Files Slightly Reorganized
Keywords: Kermit Distribution
Due to the increased space required by MS-DOS Kermit 3.11, several Kermit
versions were moved from the "A" area to the "C" area (primarily the Atari
and CP/M-86 versions). Also, several other Kermit versions were moved from
the "B" area to the "D" area -- long-discontinued systems like the DEC-20
(where Kermit was first developed) and the DEC-10. Several obsolete and
redundant Kermit versions were totally retired. If anybody notices that they
are missing and suffers for it, they can be resurrected. A complete list of
the moves and changes can be found in the file AAVERS.UPD, the AAV*.HLP
files have been updated to show the new locations, as has AAFILES.HLP.
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1991 20:14:12 EDT
>From: Christine M Gianone <cmg@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Character Set Files and Utilities
Keywords: Character Set Files and Utilities, PostScript, Cyrillic
A new directory has been set up on watsun only: kermit/charsets. The files
in this directory are not part of the normal Kermit distribution, and they do
not follow the normal naming conventions. But they should prove useful to
Kermit users who want to use or learn about text files containing national
and international characters.
Included in the kermit/charsets directory are character set tables for many
character sets, which include the character names, values in decimal, octal,
hex, and row/column notation, and the 8-bit character values themselves.
Most of these tables (e.g. cp437.txt, cp850.txt, latin1.txt, next.txt, etc)
were produced by C programs (cp437.c, cp850.c, etc), so if you can't transfer
the 8-bit text successfully, get the corresponding C program, compile it, and
run it to recreate the character set table.
Also included is a program, textps, for converting plain text containing
8-bit characters to PostScript. The original file can be in any of several
character sets including Latin-1, various IBM code pages, Apple QuickDraw,
NeXT, DEC MCS, etc. You can use this program on any UNIX system, MS-DOS,
VAX/VMS, and any other computer that has a C compiler and supports the idea
of standard input and output redirection. Thanks to Frank da Cruz for the
character set programs, tables, and the textps program.
Finally, the files cp866.doc and cp866.uue contain a Cyrillic code page
(real Cyrillic characters) you can use on your PC if it has an EGA or higher
and DOS 3.30 or higher. This was contributed by Dimitri Vulis of the City
University of New York. cp866.doc tells how to install the code page.
Once your Cyrillic code page is installed, you can display cp866.txt (the
Cyrillic code page table) on your screen locally from DOS, you can use DOS
applications to create and view Cyrillic files, etc. MS-DOS Kermit 3.10 and
later supports CP866 as a file transfer character set, and you can also use
your Cyrillic code page during during terminal emulation with any of three
commonly used Cyrillic host character sets: ISO 8859-5, KOI-8, or Short KOI.
Kermit initialization files, from Konstantin Vinogradov of the International
Centre for Scientific and Technical Information in Moscow, are provided for
this purpose in the files kermit/charsets/*.ini.
The organization and naming of the files in this area is subject to change.
Meanwhile, additional contributions to this collection of character set
tables and utilities are most welcome.
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End of Info-Kermit Digest
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