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<C> 1994 by GEnie ========================================================================== This file is brought to you by The Commodore 64/128 RoundTable on GEnie This file may be published or excerpted in User Group newsletters providing credit is given in this manner: "Copyright 1994 by GEnie From the Commodore 64/128 RoundTable File#:#####" This file maybe be distributed, if distributed whole and unaltered, on non-profit BBSs or non-profit networks. For more information on GEnie call by modem: 1-800-638-8369 (8-N-1 300/1200/2400) Enter: HHH Then reply: xtx99018,commrt Then enter: Commodore And enjoy! ========================================================================== From the Commodore 64/128 RT on page 625. An evening with Zach Mesto - SysOp of the Video Games RT Friday May 27,1994 Page <C128.JBEE> Okay? Everyone ready for our first VIDEOGAMES RTC? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Genie's first, or the Flagships? <C128.JBEE> The C64/128's 1st <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Actually, I work at home. I'm an author of...Video Game Statedy Books They sell quite well. Some sell extremely well. My book on... Super Mario World has sold over 110,000 copies. <THE.OUTLAW> WoW! <[Sean] S.ROE3> no SH*T <[Zach] Z.MESTON> No sh*t. :) I also am a contributing editor to VideoGames Magazine..and write reviews for WIRED. C128.JBEE> wow - that must have been a hefty royality check :) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yeah, I used that royalty check to buy a new Mac Quadra--and a C128. :) <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Is the Mac 64 compatable? <K.SCHENK> Zach? Can you tell me how to use a sword properly, in ELVIRA? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: Nope. :) <[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> So you play games for a living Zach? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Ed: Yep. I play games for a living. <[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Whatta life! And in Hawaii yet. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> k.Schenk: Elvira... man, that's an oldie. <[Sean] S.ROE3> do you take em apart too? <THE.OUTLAW> What are some of ypur more favorite games? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Geez! Whadda ya do on vacation, work? ;) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> My current fave games... Super Metroid for the Super NES... Tempest 2000 for the Jaguar... Twisted for 3DO... and Modem Wars for the C64. <C128.JBEE> BTW: what was the name of the book? Just curious - or do you use a handle like Mark Twain :D <[Sean] S.ROE3> do you dissassemble the programs too? <[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> How long do you have to play a game before you are ready to write a book? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> No, I don't disassemble the games, just describe how to beat them. <C128.JBEE> how is Modem Wars for the C-64? I had it but never tried it because it didnt workwith my swiftlink. Using a "GENIE"? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Ed: It depends on the complexity of the game. The Mario book took about a month... while recent books I wrote for RPGs took about 6 weeks. <[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Guess there may be a future for my son. :) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: I like Modem Wars a lot. Great fun. Reminds me of RoboSport for the Amiga. <[Sean] S.ROE3> do you write for commedore games too? <C128.JBEE> can you play it over a network or is it modem to modem only? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I used to write and publish an Amiga fanzine... but I don't write about C= stuff these days. JB: It's modem to modem only. <[Sean] S.ROE3> I am a publisher here in phoenix <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Is there a "Videogame-Shopper" magazine that sells used arcade games? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: There's a magazine called RePlay that has a large section of ads... selling used arcade games and printed circuit boards (PCBs). It's an expensive 'zine, though. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> I'd like to find and original Tempest. <[Sean] S.ROE3> have you seen the new CMD mag <[Zach] Z.MESTON> An original Tempest? That would be sweet. :) Sean: No. What's the name of this mag? <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> ..got the Windows version which is pretty nice. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: I heard that the Windows version was pretty good. Have you seen Tempest 2000 for the Jag? <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Nope. <C128.JBEE> unfortunately noone has the Jag around here except the V12 version. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: Check it out if you can. It's only semi-faithful to the original, but very fun and has awesome music. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> I miss the $10 worth of free games feature ...I got to the point where I could get the 40 free games on 1 quarter. <C128.JBEE> is tempest the one where you use a paddle to move around different shaped triangles and destroy incoming ships and missles? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Yep. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Shaped like a spider web. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: That's pretty damn good. 40 free games on a single Q? How long did it take to reach that point? <THE.OUTLAW> That was a cool Game! I haven't played it in years! <C128.JBEE> okay - use to like that one - never realized they had a C-64 version - must have been a long time ago. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Can't rememeber. It was a while ago. A year maybe? Anywhy, they took the games out I guess becuase they weren't making any money off them. :) <C128.JBEE> I played Galaga (the one where the motherships join together and beam ya up) for over 8 hours in a video faceoff at Aladdins Arcade in Danvers, MA :) like Asteroids once everyone learned how to hunt Wally and Beaver. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> I haven't gotten that good on the Windows version. Haven't the time to get back into it. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> How is the control of the Windows version, Andy? Does the mouse work well? <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> ...got up to level 71 I think. I bought a track-ball just for that game. Works best that way. Mouse isn't very good....used to play that in my dreams... <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Andy: Nice. How much for the trackball? <C128.JBEE> like trying to use a mouse for any action game - just doesnt hack it. <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> $50-something. A paddle thingie would be best. Maybe I can convert the trackball into one.... <C128.JBEE> re:trackball - is it an old Atari Trackball or something new? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Remember the old "Pole Position" with the movie clip & mechnical car ...you could follow behind a car & play forever. :) <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> something new. Maybe it was a little more. <C128.JBEE> no, but I played the Pole Position (racing cars on different tracks) on the C-64 and it was just as good as the arcade version (SEGA) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Lou: I think I know what you're talking about, but I never did get to play it. Sounds like fun. <C128.JBEE> Lou, I remember that one and getting run over by fire engines :D <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> LOL! Don't remeber that variation! <C128.JBEE> Lou, trackball works with some paint programs and there is a C-64 PD Missle Command somewhere ... <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> Is pong available for the 64? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Burnin' Rubber was funny, too <C128.JBEE> anyone ever use those ATC flight sticks for Flight Simulator? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Not me. <C128.JBEE> always wondered what "real" improvement they provided over my $5 ToysRus specials <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> No, I never did. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I still use the Epyx 500XJ I bought six years ago. :) I also have a Slik Stik as backup. Great little joystick. <C128.JBEE> with the name I can find anything in Dialog ;D <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> I haven't "flown" for years! That was a fantastic program... <C128.JBEE> I like the Erostick myself <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> ...never bought any "scenery" disks though. <THE.OUTLAW> I like the slick stik as well, I've been mostly using a Competition Pro 300x <C128.JBEE> what I want to know is "what the heckis SNK Neo*Geo"? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> The Egrostick IS comfy <C128.JBEE> <- use to sell Ergosticks myself :) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: The Neo*Geo is a home system that lets you play... SNK's coin-op games in the home. Neo*Geo carts are massive... <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> QUESTION: Is there a PD Commodore version of the Windows freebie "Minesweeper"? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> usually in upwards of 100 megabits, which means the carts... cost $100-$250, depending on the age of the game and size of the cart in megs. ** <[Zach] Z.MESTON> disconnected. <C128.JBEE> wow - that is expensive - what arcade games does SNK have? I dont recognise the name.... hold that thought ^ <THE.OUTLAW> hehehe looks like he'll be back <g> <C128.JBEE> guess that is the trouble of living in paradise :D <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> I don't know about you guys, but I think the NES & Sega game's .......graphics move about kinda jerky <C128.JBEE> imagine getting paid to play games -> AND <- living in Hawaii <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> It shouldnt be hard to write a mine sweeper for the 64. <C128.JBEE> what is the mine sweeper game like? Something we can clone? <THE.OUTLAW> I have Turbo Grafix 16 not bad :> <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> I think Loadstar 128 has a version (maybe) <C128.JBEE> Lou, the 8 bit ones are inferior to the C-64, though Ithink the 16 bit ones arent. ** <Z.MESTON> is here. <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Minesweeper isn't too complex at all <[Zach] Z.MESTON> was <Z.MESTON>. Rehi, all... sorry about that. <THE.OUTLAW> Re's Zach! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Flaky connection today. <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> RE Zach <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> it's a grid with "mines" hidden under some of the grid squares. <C128.JBEE> maybe a bird passed underneath the satellite! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Heh heh... I wouldn't doubt it! <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> If a grid has no mine, it will contain a number.... <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> You click a square and it tells you how many mines are located next to that square. You have to uncover all the squares that don't have mines. <C128.JBEE> so how do you sweep them? with depth charges? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Was my explanation of the Neo*Geo adequate for ya? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> ...telling you how many mines surround the grid square <C128.JBEE> yes, I wanted to know what SNK arcade games are there? I never heard of them. Is SNK short for something or just a name like JBEE :D <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> You sweep 'em with your brain <[DTJAndy] A.BERNHARDT> ..and luck <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> <<<<<<<Did the beginner grid in 15 seconds <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: SNK is an acronym for three Japanese words I cannot spell. :) Among their most popular arcade games are... Fatal Fury, King of the Monsters, 3 Count Bout... Samurai Shodown, and World Heroes. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Every one of those games are fighting games similar to Street Fighter II. <C128.JBEE> those are pretty big cartridges btw <[Zach] Z.MESTON> So do any of you remember Forbidden Forest for C64? I just got a copy of that today. <C128.JBEE> ^yes - gave one away a few days ago <THE.OUTLAW> I haven't heard of that one <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I've been spending lots of money buying all these C64 games I had as a kid and then lost or sold while I was in high school. :) <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> No, I never heard of it. <C128.JBEE> sounds like what I did with my transactor magazines :D <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Lou: Forbidden Forest was an interesting game. Programmed by a C64 music meastro named Paul Normal. The game's graphics were terrible... but the music was incredible, and it had parallax scrolling, which was... <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Geez. The darn PET computer wasn't around when I was in High School. :D <[Zach] Z.MESTON> absolutely amazing to me when I first saw it. <C128.JBEE> yes, it resembled an old Atari game - the name escapes me. what is "parallax" scrolling? <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> "Parallax scrolling"? Is that continuious horizontial scrolling? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Lou: Yes. Basically, it's several layers of background scrolling. Shadow of the Beast... is a fine example of parallax scrolling. <C128.JBEE> oh - like American Mutant Camels but a slicker? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Parallax is common on 16-bit game machines and above, but rare on 8-bit consoles. <THE.OUTLAW> Haven't seen that 1 either <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Oh, so it gives a 3D kind of effect <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Yeah, somewhat like that. Lou: Yes. It gives the illusion of depth. As long as you're running left or right. :) <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Kuhl! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> It is cool. And it was *very* cool to see it in Forbidden Forest back in '83. <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Anybody remember "Fort Apolcalpyse" from 1982? <C128.JBEE> I guess I will have to check the game out again - Iguess I got put off by the cheesy character graphics. <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> I'd like to see a 64 do that. That would be interesting. <THE.OUTLAW> I think I still have that game around here somewhere <C128.JBEE> Zach, do you have an Atari Lynx? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Yep. I have just about every game console from '85 onward. Sad, but true. :) <C128.JBEE> cool - I love Xenophobe (before we beat it - takes four hours) <THE.OUTLAW> Wow! <C128.JBEE> I just got Kung Food :D <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> I was always afraid of Xenophobe myself <C128.JBEE> finally getting revenge on my vegtables! <C128.JBEE> lou - lol <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yeah, there are some cool Lynx games. Do you have... Battlewheels? <C128.JBEE> nope :'( wish I did (hint hint - want to swap for a month;) <[Lou] L.SCHONDER> Kung Food souns cool! I never saw that in a catalog. <C128.JBEE> I have Zalor Merchanry - that played pretty well - got almost 4 million Z$ <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Heh... yeah, we could arrange a swap. :) Do you have Todd's Adventures in Slime World? I liked that one a lot. <C128.JBEE> Nope, havent even heardof that one!Wwhat is Slime World like? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Slime World's a bit hard to describe... but I'll try... :) It's a side-scrolling game where you run and jump through giant slime-lined catacombs... searching out items, stumbling into secret passages, and trying to escape... to the surface of the planet you're stranded on. There are six different missions... and a superb multi-player (Lynx -Up) mode. <C128.JBEE> I have (2) XYBOTs (dont really like them that much), (1) Kung Food - awesome game, (1) Zarlor Mercenary - nice blast them game, (1) Gates of Zendocon - alright, (1) Stun Runner - I dislike that one :P <[Zach] Z.MESTON> The graphics are good, the sound is great, and there's a good password function... <C128.JBEE> you mean using COM-LINK? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> that lets you continue from exactly where you left off. <C128.JBEE> really? password function sounds great! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Is it called COM-LINK? I'm sorry, I used "Lynx-Up" 'cause that's the latest term I saw them use in an advertisement. :) <C128.JBEE> Gates of Zendocon has something like that. OIC - guess I am not up to date :D <[Zach] Z.MESTON> It's a wonderful game. It kept me sane during a four-hour layover in San Francisco Intl. Airport. <THE.OUTLAW> this is a hand held game? <C128.JBEE> actually, Iguess Gates of Zendocon is a good arcade type game - just blasting bugs wasnt for me I guess - just sosmething that didnt click with me. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Is Gates of Zendocon the vertical scrolling shooter? Or the horizontal shooter? <C128.JBEE> Slime World sounds good for the wife and I - we like to Lynx Up :) yes, you get to blast the heck out of bugs and stuff and in the end you get to blast the spider. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yeah, I was left a little cold with Zendocon, too. Hey, where is everybody? :) It's okay... first conf., I know better than to expect a big crowd. <C128.JBEE> Cam, the Atari Lynx is a hand held game console with a color LCD screen. <THE.OUTLAW> Cool!<- deprived of toys <C128.JBEE> you can link up to eight Atari Lynxes together - though I think most games only support 4 at most. <C128.JBEE> Xenophobe is the only one I know of that supports 8? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I think Slime World does 8 players, too. <C128.JBEE> what did you think of S.T.U.N. Runner? Did thattone leave you cold too? <C128.JBEE> <- checking off Slime World for next week - guess it will be mail order though - local ToysRus dropped the Lynx :P <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I played STUN Runner on both Lynx and Amiga... didn't like either version. Amiga version has good title screen music, though. :) <THE.OUTLAW> Will the Lynx stick around? Or will it end up like the Turbo Graphix system? <C128.JBEE> how did you like Kung Food? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> The Lynx may or may not stick around. Atari said they'd promote it along with the Jaguar... <C128.JBEE> well, with the JAG out ... hard to tell^ <[Zach] Z.MESTON> but support really hasn't picked up much at all. <C128.JBEE> I think they have 75 games now? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I think they're (wisely) focusing their efforts and development $ on the Jag. <C128.JBEE> well, when was the last time Atari advertised them? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yeah, it's about 75-80 games. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I haven't seen a Lynx ad in ages... the Jaguar is getting some TV and magazine ads. <C128.JBEE> Cam, thought if you bought it you wouldnt be sorry, except for the sore eyes fromplaying it too much. <THE.OUTLAW> so if I were to invest in one.. it should be the Jag? <C128.JBEE> Yes, about two months ago they were even mentioned in TV guide. <THE.OUTLAW> LOL JB! <C128.JBEE> well, JAG is also more expensive and isnt portable, it is also 64 bit vs 16 bit for the Lynx, Lynx used a 65C816 <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Outlaw: Yes, I'd go with the Jag. Although the Lynx *is* a fun system. <THE.OUTLAW> Whats the cost of one? <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> I love my lynx! <C128.JBEE> I like playing it in bed with the LynxUp <C128.JBEE> Eddie, you are a Lynx fan too? <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> It seems kinda funny...I have a C-128, no support. I own a lynx, ditto :/ <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Outlaw: Cost of Lynx is $80, cost of Jag varies from $229- 259 depending on where you buy it. <C128.JBEE> Eddie, you will find this even funnier, I have applied to be a Lynx developer :D <THE.OUTLAW> <cough> <sputter> I guess Lynx would be my first choice! <C128.JBEE> I like the idea of a very small portable color game system <C.RICHARDS17> What's wrong w/ a game gear ? <C128.JBEE> Eddie, whatis your favorite Lynx game? <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> I picked up a bunch of lynx titles at the Baystate Expo in Boston 2 months ago when they had a huge 'swap meet' there. I paid $4 each for 3 new games! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Nothing's wrong with Game Gear at all. Tons of games, tons more coming out all the time. <C128.JBEE> last time I looked it was expensive, is that the portable color one that cost $300. ARG! I knew I should have gone to that! <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> I love Zarlor Mercenary..I even finished it once <C128.JBEE> actually, almost all the new systems are neat - just a matter of preference. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB; The expensive color portable is the TurboExpress, from NEC. Don't bother. :) Both Lynx and GG are well under $100 now. <C128.JBEE> You know the trick with Zalor Mercenary? Buying ships cheap in the 1st six rounds and selling them in the end for a huge profit. can you link GGs together for head to head action? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yes, but only two. <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> Naw, the secret is choosing Landru as your character! <C128.JBEE> I think Igot 4 million Z$ and earned Supreme Mercenary. I always choose the robot and pick up the power pills as I go. <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> I kinda liked the short ending...never double cross a Zarlor Mercenary :) <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> Is there any truth to Wolfenstein 3d coming out for the lynx? <C128.JBEE> two is enough - that is all I need to hook up - what kind of processor system does GG use and how is the color? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Wolf 3D, doubtful, but Aliens vs. Predator (a Wolf 3D/Doom playalike) is coming out for it. <C128.JBEE> ohhh COOL! I would like one like that. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I couldn't tell you what processor GG uses--I'm not into the tech specs--but it's more or less a portable Sega Master System (8-bit machine). <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> A vs P was kinda boring on the SNES. I hope it isn't the same. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> The color is good. 16 colors on-screen out of 32. <C128.JBEE> does it have good games? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> The Jaguar A vs P is totally different. The SNES version was a terrible beat-['em-up.The Jaguar version will be an intense first-person game. <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> Oh, if you couldn't tell...I love video games ;) <C128.JBEE> like looking through their eyes type of deal? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Does the Game Gear have good games, you mean? JB: Yes, the on-screen view is through the "eyes" of the character you're controlling--which can be the Alien, Predator, or a human marine. <C128.JBEE> Me too! I think most people that own computers love videogames, which is why the VIDEOGAME RT is now on our main menu :) awesome - sounds like a reason just to buy the Jag! <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> Really? I go to V rt at least once a week m806;1 ;) <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: It should be incredible. Atari is counting on it to sell systems. I think it will. <C128.JBEE> yes, ever game system needs at least one awesome game to sell on the demo machines. I had consider doing a Jag game but it is really out of my field at the moment - really need a very good development team. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> JB: Yep. Nintendo has Mario, Sega has Sonic, and Atari.... er, doesn't have anything yet. Hence, Aliens vs. Predator. :) <[Eddie] E.BOURDON1> My friends brother is an engineer with 3DO <C128.JBEE> JAG is an awesome system - now if Atari doesn't pull a Commodore Amiga they should be all set :-D <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yeah, let's hope they don't. As the owner of three Amigas, I don't want anything else I own to become orphaned. :) <THE.OUTLAW> :> <C128.JBEE> I was laughing at a quote I saw about how Commodore marketing works ... if they were selling fried chicken they would advertise it as "warm dead bird" :D <THE.OUTLAW> LOL <[Zach] Z.MESTON> ROTFL! <C128.JBEE> Does tje JAG support monitors or just TVs? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> There are currently Atari cables for S-Video and composite video... no RGB cable yet, although you can get a custom-made one from Redmond Cable., <C128.JBEE> I would think the graphics would be much better on an RGBA screen? are the JAg controls infrared for couch playing? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Definitely, although the S-Video looks very nice on my 27" boob tube. No infrared controllers. In fact, the cables on the Jaguar controllers are disturbingly short... they added a couple extra feet to the controller after the initial run of Jaguars because of all the complaints. <C128.JBEE> really? cost cutting or EFI concerns for FCC passing? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> a couple extra feel to the controller cable, not the controller itself. :) <C128.JBEE> "mega controller" for weight lifters <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Cost cutting, I suspect. Just like they packaged ancient RF boxes in with the Jag... that appeared to have been taken out of Atari 2600 boxes and recycled. <C128.JBEE> not the tinny metal ones! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Yes, the tiny metal ones. Not the cool automatic switchers like Nintendo and Sega use. <C128.JBEE> now we know where the some of the excess C-64 materials went - back to Atari :D <THE.OUTLAW> hehehe <[Zach] Z.MESTON> They got lots and lots of complaints about that. I think they're still using the tinny boxes, but newer models. <C128.JBEE> I would say that they need some image polishing, especially since reviewers are probably use to the nice ones. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Surprisingly, they didn't get slammed in reviews about that. In fact, they won... lots of awards for "Best Hardware in '93..." including the magazine I work for. :) <C128.JBEE> which magazine is that again? see if I can pick one up for kicks :D <[Zach] Z.MESTON> It's called VideoGames. I also work for Computer Player. <C128.JBEE> make sure you include your GEnie address in those articles -lol <[Zach] Z.MESTON> And I do freelance reviews for other mags. (I contributed lots of game tips to .info and RUN.) <C128.JBEE> figures, four videogame magazines and I dont have either one. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> I dunno about giving out my e-mail address in reviews... :) <C128.JBEE> you should submit tips to all the remaining Commodore magazines ... if we could only get the German games over here! <[Zach] Z.MESTON> What C= mags are left? RUN is still around, isn't it? <C128.JBEE> no, RUN died in September, Compute (printed version) folded in Dec <[Zach] Z.MESTON> RUN is dead? Sigh. <GEOS-TIM> We have several magazines taking up the slack <C128.JBEE> Zach, I bet you were wondering why they werent sending you checks anymore for those tips :D <GEOS-TIM> LOL <C128.JBEE> yep, RUN ran out of breath. <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Oh, I sent those tips a *long* time ago. I got paid $5 by RUN once... and the ones I sent to .info were for free (in exchange for publicity for my Amiga game fanzine). <C128.JBEE> which is? <[Zach] Z.MESTON> Amiga Games Guide. I published six issues over the course of a year... and folded it when I broke into the video game publishing industry.