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- 12 USE JAMECO RS232 ADAPTER ON SX-64?
- 5 Open M.ST.PIERRE1
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- Topic 12 Thu Sep 06, 1990
- M.ST.PIERRE1 at 22:10 PDT
- Sub: USE JAMECO RS232 ADAPTER ON SX-64?
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- Why can't I use the JAMECO JE232CM RS232 adapter on my SX-64? Do I need some
- sort of special driver software or is it just not possible (and why isn't it)?
- Anybody got the answer(s)?
- 5 new messages.
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- Category 8, Topic 12
- Message 1 Thu Sep 06, 1990
- M.ST.PIERRE1 at 22:19 PDT
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- I am currently trying to set-up a friend of mine's SX-64 for file transfers to
- and from his shop's CNC machine. We have successfully done this with a simple
- null modem cable utilizing only the TXD and RXD lines on an old OSBORNE I had
- laying around. The problem is that we don't want to use the OSBORNE and would
- much rather use the SX-64 for this purpose, but unfortunately I can't seem to
- get the SX-64 to do anything through the Jameco RS232 adapter. Is the serial
- driver missing in the O.S. of this machine? If so can it be supplied
- externally (loaded from disk) and if so, where can I get such a driver?
-
- Any help in this matter is appreciated, Thanks Michael St. Pierre :-)
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- Category 8, Topic 12
- Message 2 Sat Sep 08, 1990
- R.RANDALL5 [Zeroy] at 23:40 EDT
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- I'm not familiar with the interface that you're using, but I can give a little
- free advice concerning the SX.
-
- I have a RS-232 interface that sits in the user port (serial port) of a 64.
- It translates the TTL signals on the port to the proper voltage levels for RS-
- 232 to a DB25 connector. The plus and minus 12 volts that are needed for RS-
- 232 is supplied by a small power supply built into the interface. The juice
- for the power supply is tapped from the 9 volts AC that a 64 supplies to the
- user port. This works fine on a C=64 or a C=64C.
-
- The SX64's power supply is taxed to the max by the job of running a computer,
- a disk drive, and a monitor. Adding almost any more load to the SX's power
- supply is a risky buisiness. Memory expansions will kill an SX immediately.
- My SX's power supply bit the dust a while ago and I suspect that the interface
- I was using was the cause. The interface draws a very small amount of power
- but I believe it was enough to blow a small fuse built into the main power
- transformer. The main bummer is that I have been totally unsuccessful at
- finding any parts or replacement power supply for the SX. I've talked to
- several other techs who have told me that dead power supplys in SX's are
- common and unrepairable. I have actually been able to make it run using a
- kludged power supply from a Apple II, but the power supply won't fit in the
- SX's case.
-
- I strongly recommend that, if you're going to attach peripheral devices to an
- SX64, that you use only devices that provide their own power.
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- Message 3 Mon Sep 10, 1990
- M.ST.PIERRE1 at 23:23 PDT
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- Thanks for this info, as it turns out the interface I mentioned is also one
- designed to plug into the user port of a C-64. I wonder if the port on the SX-
- 64 is not same in some way (ie: lacks the 9 vdc?). I will have to try probing
- with a voltmeter, do you or anyone else know what pins should have power on
- them and what amount per pin (5 vdc or 9vdc).
-
- Of course I am still assumming that the SX-64 has the ability to do serial
- communications through it's user port, since the interface I have seems to be
- strictly for conditioning the lines for RS232 and is not intelligent in any
- way.
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- Message 4 Fri Sep 14, 1990
- R.RANDALL5 [Zeroy] at 21:58 EDT
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- You seem to be missing my point. The user port on the SX is EXACTLY the same
- as the user port on the C=64. The 9VAC is there to provide power for user
- devices, but the main power supply in the SX is not quite able to stand other
- devices pulling power. If the thing works in the C=64, it will work in the SX
- exactly the same way BUT it MIGHT blow the SX's power supply.
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- Message 5 Sat Sep 15, 1990
- M.ST.PIERRE1 at 21:27 PDT
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- I did indeed get your point. I understood perfectly the minimal power
- situation that you described in your earlier message, it just wasn't clear
- from your comments whether all aspects of the USER port were the same between
- the two machines. I now know this to be true and having probed the 1488 and
- 1489 IC chips (TTL to RS232 and RS232 to TTL conversion) I discovered that the
- proper + and - voltages were present. Now granted, I may be overtaxing the
- supply, but until it blows I do have power present at the interface and of
- proper levels. My main question is still, "Does the internal O.S. of the SX-64
- support SERIAL operations through the USER port in same manner to the C-64?".
- If it does, than I'll be darned if I can figure out why the interface doesn't
- put out any signals when used with a terminal program or when set-up from
- BASIC to redirect output to the port from PRINT# statements following the OPEN
- set-up. Now I am not a commodore user so possibly a few sample lines in BASIC
- are in order here, so that I can at least test the interface. Nothing fancy,
- just the ability to send a few characters at 1200 BAUD, 8 DATA BITS, 1 STOP,
- NO PARITY will do. Any help is as always most appreciated.
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