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Where: Flagship RTC Page 625;2
When : Sept 27th Sunday
Time : 22:00 EDT

Winners (Sat & Sunday)                 Prizes
---------------------------------------------
J.Robbins16   (uploaded file #10000)   C-1581 and mouse.
J.Hamby3                               TC-64 with disk (free issue)
C.Hitselberg1                          TC-64 with disk (free issue)
R.Knop1                                1/2 hour time
C.Hitselberg1                          1/2 hour time
J.Hamby3                               1/2 hour time
S.Freedline                            Micro-Bytes (free issue)
S.Freedline                            1/2 hour of time
S.Freedline                            JJ30, JJ31, JJ32 graphic disks
D.Dumler                               Micro-Bytes (free issue)
D.Cozort2                              Micro-Bytes (free issue)
C.Hitselberg1                          1/2 hour time
E.Sielski                              Micro-Bytes (free issue)
J.Mabry                                Micro-Bytes (free issue)
E.Kwant                                Micro-Bytes (free issue)

Plus, everyone attending won free 10% coupons on CMD's product line!

Attendees
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CBM-ED
C128.JBEE
T.ADAMS18
YLR.ROSE
CBM-ED
M.DULSKI1
CMD-DOUG
PAUL-MB
F.BUNTON
A.BERNHARDT
J.FEIGLESON
C.HITSELBER1
D.COZORT2
R.KNOP1
R.NEAZER
E.SIELSKI
S.MAZZOTTA1

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> ExtraOrdinary

<PAUL-MB> :)

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Frank has a question GA Frank

<[Frank] F.BUNTON> YLR.ROSE: what is you typing speed (if you know it in wpm)?

** <PAUL-MB> (Sent by 7) JBEE, do I start hosting next month?

<PAUL-MB>  (brb)

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> is that his question? :>


Message sent to Job 7

** <PAUL-MB> (Sent by 7) Great!

<[Frank] F.BUNTON> No wonder I can't keep up...only 30 wpm.  :p

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> if it is.. its 90+ WPM.. words per millenium.. hehehe


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> lol^

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Maybe he wants you to come over and type things for him,
Rose?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Don't let her do that... she finds too many mistakes!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> well, for a small fee and the number of your credit
card.. that could be arranged.. :>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::innocent mode::

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Call her 976 number

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Course, I'd get jealous... (snicker)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE>

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> "Mr. Fonts"?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> thought your eyes were brown, Doug.. cause you're so full
of.... hehehehe


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> So, anyone want to ask some questions ?

<[Frank] F.BUNTON> Sorry I couldn't make last night.  Storms in the area.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> me me me!!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Nope, blue as blue can be! :)

<PAUL-MB> 976-ROSE

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> are we having FUN yet?????  <IS!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yes, Andy...I've been editing fonts all weekend.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> thats... 1-976-YLR-ROSE ..  :>

<PAUL-MB> 1-900-YLR-ROSE or 1-900-PAUL-MB-1

<PAUL-MB> ;)

DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Ok.  geos.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE>
<PAUL-MB> Anyone want to Beat the Sysop?  It's great fun. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> please have mercy and make it easy ;)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> hey, how come everyone's picking up baseball bats?^

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

<[Frank] F.BUNTON> just CLOWNing around

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::strappin on spurs::

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Can I ask questions, JBEE?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> I've beat up on him enough...oh, THAT Beat the Sysop! :)

** <[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> was <[Frank] F.BUNTON>.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::innocent mode::

<PAUL-MB> Send in the clones!

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> I only have a pie.   just CLOWNing around

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::polishing Frank::   OH.. I thought

hPAUL-MB> Those Crazy Texans :)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> BRB...AFK mode...

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> yea.. and soon I'll be moving to WACO (aka Wacko) Texas!
>:D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, between asking today and answering yesterday I
won't have any work :D

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> heh


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I am a PIous kind of guy ...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ;)

<PAUL-MB> <groan>

** <J.FEIGLESON> is here.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! J.FEIGLESON  Kick off those
boots!

<PAUL-MB> Hi, J.FEIGLESON! (That darn transporter! :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, J.FEIGLESON!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there J.FEIGLESON! Glad you could make it!

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> I'm moving from the state of Confusion to the state of
Shock.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::sending crying towel to Frank::  >;D

<PAUL-MB> Is that just west of Illinois, Frank? :)

** <J.FEIGLESON> was <J.FEIGLESON>.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> make sure you don't move to the state of depression :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> MAke sure you don't move to the state of depression :)

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> I'm from the state of Shock.  you won't like it.

** <J.FEIGLESON> was <J.FEIGLESON>.

** <[hippo] J.FEIGLESON> was <J.FEIGLESON>.

<[hippo] J.FEIGLESON> hi

<[hippo] J.FEIGLESON>  all

<PAUL-MB> Hi Hippo!

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <- just noticed Frank is in the buff!

** <[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> was <[hippo] J.FEIGLESON>.

<PAUL-MB> Did TBEE say that? ;D

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Don't let Rose know

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> REally cover her eyes

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> just wearing clown make-up!!!

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> nah, she is upstairs reading and banging around

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> what's she "BANGING"?

<PAUL-MB> :>

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> not me!

<PAUL-MB> LOL

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> LOL

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::innocent mode::

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Anyone got any questions for the Sysop?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> (X)(X)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> JBEE and I already DO live in the state of Depression...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, you ever see the RS EC-4075 programmer's
calculator?

<PAUL-MB> Extreme close up!  <

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I have Sharp's EL-506H


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea, gets more depressing when you see ole' Billy on
60 minutes !

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Never saw the one you mention

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Like what kind a questions?


** <C.HITSELBER1> is here.

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, does hex <-> decimal conversions?

<PAUL-MB> Hi, C.HITSELBER1! (That darn transporter! :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, C.HITSELBER1!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there C.HITSELBER1! Glad you could make it!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! C.HITSELBER1  Kick off those
boots!

<PAUL-MB> Questions that will stump easily :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> So does mine, John.  That is why I bought it.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <- will take any questions to do with Commodores

** <[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> was <C.HITSELBER1>.

** <D.COZORT2> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, D.COZORT2!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there D.COZORT2! Glad you could make it!

<PAUL-MB> Hi, D.COZORT2! (That darn transporter! :)

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! D.COZORT2  Kick off those boots!

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Oh!!!  With Commodores!  I thought ANY questions!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> <-- will take questions to do with Sex.. hehehehe

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> TO ASK A QUESTION TYPE /RAISE - TOM WILL CALL ON YOU

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> BY TELLING YOU TO "Go Ahead"  GA (your name). Type
-end

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> WHEN FINISHED.

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> TOM WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> hi hak I used to live in Springfield on Rolling Road


<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> okay.. let me try that fer a sec... will send ya a note
if it works..

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Must have to do with Sex AND Commodores...

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> hey, are you a member of WACUG?

<PAUL-MB> Interesting combination, Doug :>

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> Me

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Doug, do you mean like modem sex or something worse?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> What A Commodore Uses Goes - WACUG!

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> later folks. gotta spend some of my money on GEnie's
other areas, also.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> okay Frank - not going to even try? :D

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> GEnie has other areas???

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Guess that will work, though you should be able to come
up with something more imaginative than that. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ask Rose, I am easy :D

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Anyone have any questions for the sysop?

<D.COZORT2> Hi all/rai

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Well, there was that strip poker game...

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> use the /rai on its own line

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Niters Frank! SMOOCH


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> and I see you three, Ed

<PAUL-MB> Nite Frank!

<[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> not gonna try. JBEE's too smart. <kiss up mode>.

<PAUL-MB> You see 3 Eds, JBEE?  Is there something in the dip!?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> No more raises from me for the day.

<D.COZORT2> Think i"ll just listen for a while.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ahh - thanks - and I wanted to give more stuff away
...

** <[Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  [Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON!  Don't forget your weapon!

<PAUL-MB> Scotty, you beamed up [Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON too soon!  Nice job! ;)

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Kickin off her boots.. Ylr wiggles into the room...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Buff Phoon] F.BUNTON has left! How
sad...

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I have real easy questions to ask everyone tonight
because I want to get them

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> into the script =)

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> I haven't lived there for 10 years


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Jimmy Cricket ;)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug - I have been searching all the "b" movies now
for more Commodores :D

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> Hack my brother lives in Lorton

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> 1045

<PAUL-MB> My watch says 9:31, Ed ;)

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Wasn't there a VIC-20 on "Empty Nest"?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I was setting he alarm.

<PAUL-MB> Yup, HH.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> empty nest a movie? what type of movie?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Empty Nest is a tv show, JBee.  :>

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Well, I might as well try a question...

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> And I saw a made for TV movie with Jason Bateman in
which he torches a customs agency shack.  There were PETs inside.  sigh.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> getalife

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> Is a TV like A Vedio Monitor

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Andy has a question GA Andy


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> JF, yes, why?

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> How do you set CIA#1 up for 50hz operation?

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> [B[B[B[B[B[A[A[A[A[AJust kidding I never watch TV unless
it is Dr Who or Star Trek


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> matter of fact - my new TV can be used as a monitor :)

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Ooo o  ANSI graphics!

<[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> Who wan's to watch TV


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Andy - unless Ed knows I give up -imagine it has to
do with a ROM call

** <[Hippo] J.FEIGLESON> has left.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [Hippo] J.FEIGLESON  ::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<PAUL-MB> There goes [Hippo] J.FEIGLESON...minus one wallet!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  [Hippo] J.FEIGLESON!  Don't forget your weapon!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Hippo] J.FEIGLESON has left! How
sad...

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hold on JBEE, I'm looking...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> too bad - I had a Dr.Who question for JF :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, isn't "peek"ing kind of naughty?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I suppose you'd look in the ROM routine that checks
for PAL vs. NTSC (startup) and offset it from $DC00 instead of $DD00 where the
word gets stored in the timer.  Dunno though, I'm at the office.  No commie
books here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Ithought that was what I was supposed to do?  >>sigh<<

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> What?  You don't take commie books whereever you go?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I do!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, I was making a tongue in cheek comment ;)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> grin

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Commie book should be right with your American Express
card!

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Actually, I have a Commodore PRG here at the office
and several source code directories. hehe


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Andy, I give up? how?

<PAUL-MB> You stumped him, JBEE!  Good job ;D

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Set bit 7 at addrs DC0E (on the 64) to high.  It makes
the TOD clock run at the proper speed in forieign countries.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> that's what SX-64s are for and they store traveler's
checks nicely too :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> That is where I was looking believe it or not...

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I always keep my SX-64 stocked with butterscotch
wafers and Hershey kisses.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> this one's for Andy ->

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> Andy, it's the same on a C128 too

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> I figure the only hardware ? that could stump someone
would have to do with smething normal americans don't encounter.



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> okay - got an easy one for you - what do you type in
at any menu prompt to read

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> the weekly Sysop's Picks?

<PAUL-MB> Good plug, JBEE :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <-use to live in Holland working for the water
department

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Thumb get sore?

** <R.KNOP1> is here.

<PAUL-MB> LOL

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! R.KNOP1  Kick off those boots!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, R.KNOP1!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there R.KNOP1! Glad you could make it!

<PAUL-MB> Hi, R.KNOP1! Care for some 64 S'mores?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> BAHAHAHAAHA

<PAUL-MB> Hi Rob!

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> I dunno.  SP?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug, who said anything about thumbs ?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Hiyas!  Rob!

<R.KNOP1> Howdy all

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hi RK

** <[Rob] R.KNOP1> was <R.KNOP1>.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Andy - small hint - it's on page 625 ...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Oh, it was only a small hole, then?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> (grin)

<PAUL-MB> :>

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Yeah, but I've gotten to the point where I don't look
at the menus anymore.  I know where I want to go.

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> <-- gets the joke


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea - I use to use my spare change


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> well Andy - if you told me M625;5 - you would have
won!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> TOM WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<PAUL-MB> But you didn't, and you didn't.  So you didn't. ;)

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> So, how many grand did I lose?

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> :)

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Anyone have a question for the Sysop??

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> My spare hasn't changed in quite a while...still hanging
around my middle. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> 1/2 hour for a good question like that :)

<PAUL-MB> "Stump The Sysop!"

<PAUL-MB> I'm not your host, Paul McAleer.

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> D.C. has a question GA D.C.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Paul's talking to he-self again =)

<D.COZORT2> What was the name of the microprocessor that the C65 would have had?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ohh - you mean the one it DID have 65c816 :)  -


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> give me another one ... :)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Heh, actually it was a 4510. But nobody knows that. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> what's a 4510?

<PAUL-MB> If nobody knows that Doug, are you nobody? :)

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> You know it, Doug.  Are you nobody?

<PAUL-MB> LOL


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> they got ya Doug!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yep, I'm nobody. Fred told me that was what it was being
dubbed.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I thought they only dubbed movies?

<PAUL-MB> CMD-NOBODY

** <R.NEAZER> is here.

<PAUL-MB> ;)

<PAUL-MB> Hi, R.NEAZER! Care for some 64 S'mores?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, R.NEAZER!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! R.NEAZER  Kick off those boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there R.NEAZER! Glad you could make it!

<D.COZORT2> Was that just another name for a 65c816?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Hiyas! RN!


<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hi RN!

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea - so  they could charge more money when it broke
:D

<PAUL-MB> I believe that, too! ;)

<R.NEAZER> Hi all

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::serving chocolate chocolate chip cookies--chewy ones!::

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> No, the 4510 was a modified processor specifically for
that machine.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> YUM



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> "sorry, sir, your 4510 is gone, its out of stock, and
your computer will be up

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> a strawberry dacquiri to go with that plate of cookies,
Doug? (G)

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> on the lift for the next week, mind if we push it
outside?"

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> LOL!

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> JBEE you ahave a come back question for D.C.?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED>


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> oh - the 0/1 modified so it ran C64 software?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> homemade cookies.. I brought em home.. then made em..
hehehehe

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Instead of choc. chip cookies, we should have 4510 chip cookies.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> oh - I guess 65c816 was swrong then - question coming
....

<PAUL-MB> C64 S'mores are good :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I'd like a byte

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :)

<PAUL-MB> <GROAN!>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >>

grin <<

<PAUL-MB> <rimshot>

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> I'll just have a nybble

<PAUL-MB> Looks like Doug bit off more than he could chew.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I think we should turn the PAGE on these ones, folks.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> oK

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> I'll chew on one for a bit...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (And don't you try to get a WORD in edgewise)

<PAUL-MB> (Doug has a megabyte!)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC -  what was the winning file #10000 called?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> geez, JBee. why didnt ya jes ask him to name the
survivors of the Titanic?? hehehehehe

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> LOL


<PAUL-MB> See those lawns?  I modem

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> and his kid has a megabit

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> and how many bytes are in it?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Paul - OUCH!

<PAUL-MB> :>


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> 125000^

<D.COZORT2> Got me.

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Thought that would have been easy enough - its why we
are here :D

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ya got 10 mins to answer, DC.. go look in the library and
come right back.. hehehehehehe


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> for the record "jasmine"

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> YLR - you gave it away! :)

<PAUL-MB> Or the SYSOP PICKS, I believe :)

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::innocent mode::

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Rob has a question, GA Rob.


<PAUL-MB>  o/ HOME, HOME on the range... \o

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ARG - I forgot about the 10 minutes - guess he wins
anyways -lol

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC, you ever see a copy of Micro-Bytes?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> OK: with >=8K of RAM expansion installed, at what memory
location could one find

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> the screen on the VIC-20?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> $8000?

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> The screen would be in front of you.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::running for old Compute Mag in the bathroom::



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ohh - I should know that - I programmed first on a
Vic - let me think (or see

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> LOL

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> if I can scrunge up a Transactor;)

<D.COZORT2> No, but I've been meaning to see if I could get my hands on one.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> no, not $8000

<PAUL-MB> Congrats, DC!  You just did! ;)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC wins a free copy of Microbytes then :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I would "guess" 1024 Rob?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> You'd have to go pretty far back in T's

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> not 1024


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I give up - "what is it"?

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Is that hexidecimal, JBEE?

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> At 22 cols, it could be ANYWHERE

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> 4096

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> screen memory moves to 4096

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> n

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> darn.. too late.. just found it..  :<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> It is $1e00 with the 3K expander or no expander, and $1000 with
greater expansio

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Oh... you got 10 minutes, though, didn't you?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> when I was first programming the Vic-20, and filled up the 3.5
K, I was


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea - memory expansion on the VIC was pretty strange

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> scratching my head for a few days wondering why the screen
pokes no longer

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> worked with the 16K expander I got.  (a WHOLE 16K!)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <-sysops dont get ten minutes - only contestants

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> color memory moves to 38400 with 8K  :>

<[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> Well, time to go.  Later all.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Seeya Andy!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> cya

** <[DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT> has left.

<PAUL-MB> There goes [DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT...minus one wallet!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  [DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT!  Don't forget your weapon!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT
::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<PAUL-MB> Seeya Andy!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [DTJ Andy] A.BERNHARDT has left! How
sad...

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> I had the 8K and 16K expanders.. I luved em..  :>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE>

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> YLR, You need the Heimlich?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hemlock

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> I had 128K on my Vic... :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Doug - you serious/


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, yes she needs it, she is coughing up nothing!

<PAUL-MB> I had keys on my VIC ;)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yep...bank switched.

<D.COZORT2> I saw a used VIC yesterday on sale for $75.

<PAUL-MB> Heh!

<PAUL-MB> I saw one for $20 :)

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I suspect Rose got froze by her auto-adios.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> $75!!!!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> grrrrrrrr

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> You can get a 128 for $75 some places nowadays.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hope Not Hack!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Last I knew they sold for $50 new with 5 games thrown in!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> found a new glitch.. I accidently hit a return during an
autosalute.. locked me out big time.. :<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> JBEE, did you ever sell that 128D?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Must have had some extras...

<PAUL-MB> Sssh!

<PAUL-MB> That was a secret feature YLR. ;)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> hee hee

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ha ha ha..  :<


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, still no firm offer

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> geez.. gotta pay more attention when someone leaves..  :>



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob here is your question - name a Commodore printer
with a pass through serial

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> port?


<PAUL-MB> I have one! :>

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Paul - :X  no hints!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> e5G]<-- growling that he doesn't have all his old Compute!s
here :)

<D.COZORT2> The guy claimed it (the Vic) had o"one of those Vic hard drives"????


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I can give you a hint if you need it ;)

<PAUL-MB> Prolly meant a disk drive, DC

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Sure, I'll take a hint.  I have two guesses I could make:

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> goin over to clean up my room from last night.. see ya'll
in a few! :>

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  [Mistress] YLR.ROSE!  Don't forget your weapon!

<PAUL-MB> There goes [Mistress] YLR.ROSE...minus one wallet!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Mistress] YLR.ROSE has left! How
sad...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, what kind of monitor do you use for your C-128?

<D.COZORT2> Yeah, a 1540.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> 1084S, now.  Used to use a 1902A

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Is this the hint?


<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :)

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> hummm RED GREEN BLUE ...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ^was a hint

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Oh, was it that little plotter, the 1520, I believe?

** <R.NEAZER> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  R.NEAZER!  Don't forget your weapon!

<PAUL-MB> There goes R.NEAZER...minus one Ginsu 2000!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like R.NEAZER has left! How sad...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob wins by the skin of his teeth!

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> is Monitoring.

<PAUL-MB> Hi, [Mistress] YLR.ROSE! Care for a 128 Shake?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, [Mistress] YLR.ROSE!  Do you have
some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there [Mistress] YLR.ROSE! Glad you could make it!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I had one of those for a week once!

<PAUL-MB> Darn cute plotter that was, too :)

<PAUL-MB> I had one for a half-week :)

** <E.SIELSKI> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> We don't serve minors, E.SIELSKI!  Do you have some ID?

<PAUL-MB> Hi, E.SIELSKI! Care for a 128 Shake?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there E.SIELSKI! Glad you could make it!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Bought it on a deal thinking it was an 80 column printer... the
ad was misleadin


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <-wrong the first program I ever uploaded for the
C-1520 - still here on GEnie

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Hack Hogan has a question, GA Hack.

<PAUL-MB> BTW, the MPS1200 has a pass-thru too.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> must have been a Mont. Grant ad :D

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Actually, it was Protecto.  Anyone remember them?

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Hiyas ED!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Paul, really?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Ok.  Why do CBM 8-bits use PETSCII (or if you
prefer, half-ASCII) instead of ASCII?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea - Computer Direct^

<PAUL-MB> Yup, JBEE.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH - good question!

<PAUL-MB> So does its big brother, the 1250.


** <[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> was <E.SIELSKI>.

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> CH - for the graphic character sets

<PAUL-MB> Well folks, I'm going to call it a night!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, any guesses on that?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Isn't there more to it than that?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Seeya Paul!

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Nite Paul

<PAUL-MB> Be sure to stop by Friday night! :D

** <PAUL-MB> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  PAUL-MB!  Don't forget your weapon!

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Can you be more specific, JBEE, because my IBM
clone has graphic characters.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like PAUL-MB has left! How sad...

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> Night Paul ;)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Tramiel, I bet.


<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ed :)

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> so they could do graphics cheaply with the small amt
of ram available

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> He was happy about losing the caret.

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> (Sent by 3) do Tom and I start on Wednesday next week?
or do you still want me on Tuesday?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> other than that, I give up :D  Why?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I wasn't there for the design meeting at Commodore,
but I think it was so every 7-bit ASCII character could be typed unshifted on
the original PET.  More user-friendly that way.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> There was a Jim Butterfield article about it in an old TPUG


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ^that the reason?

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> The hottub is all filled up with fresh water.. come
jump on into Room 3!

** <[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> has left.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [e.g.bell] CBM-ED has left! How sad...

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I'm guessing, of course.  I thought one of you guys
knew.

** <[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> not Monitoring.

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Type /room 3 to continue the fun.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> It was a historical thing.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ccontinued in room 3....

** <[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> has left.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Wizarduser] M.DULSKI1 has left! How
sad...

** <[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> has left.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1 has left!
How sad...

** <[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> has left.

**  has left.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> everyone type "/room 3"

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Type /room 3 to continue the fun.


** <[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> has left.

Room 3, Ylr's Rose Garden

** <[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a [*Sysop*] C128.JBEE!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! [*Sysop*] C128.JBEE  Kick off
those boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there [*Sysop*] C128.JBEE! Glad you could make it!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

** <D.COZORT2> is here.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! D.COZORT2  Kick off those boots!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a D.COZORT2!  Do you have some ID?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there D.COZORT2! Glad you could make it!

] E.SIELSKI> is here.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> This is CH's question!!!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a [EMScompute] E.SIELSKIHe was very rich!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI! Glad you could make
it!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI  Kick off
those boots!

** <[Tom] T.ADAMS18> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a [Tom] T.ADAMS18 He was very rich!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! [Tom] T.ADAMS18  Kick off those
boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there [Tom] T.ADAMS18! Glad you could make it!

** <[Tom] T.ADAMS18> not Monitoring.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::countin heads:: Yep, by jove, I think thats all of em!
>:D

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> I hope it's a ballbreaker.  I hope it stumps me.
muhahaha

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Anyway, to continue the PETSCII story:

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> I wish I was rich ;DD

** <S.MAZZOTTA1> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a S.MAZZOTTA1!  He was very rich!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdell, lookie who's here! S.MAZZOTTA1  Kick off those
boots!



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> good for 1/2 hour of time because that was a neat
question - what library would

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> you upload GRAPHIC CHARACTER ART to?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I found the Butterfield article.  It was in TPUG Vol 1 # 4, as
bundled

<S.MAZZOTTA1> Hi y'all!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> in transactor 8 (1)

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Hi ya Sam

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hi SM

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Hiyas!  SM!

<D.COZORT2> hi sam

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> You mean like c/g movies (Illinois Fred, et al)?

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> really, I got that issue - guess I should reread it!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Do you have the TPUG in it?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> no, "low res" screens

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> For a while, TPUG members got Transactor as a membership
bonus... and those

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> folks got the TPUG newsletter inside the T.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (I got some of my T's from a former TPUG member...)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob - nope - ^

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I'm still about 10 shy of a load. (T's that is)

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Of 13 people here, how many are actualy logged on
using Commodores?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> cool to be them.  So to get on with the game, I
give up on the library question.  I don't know and it seems like cheating to
leave and look at the me nus.

<S.MAZZOTTA1> ME!y'all!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I am.... C128

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::HAND RAISED:: using 128D

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> not me.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ES : I am ... C128, er, C512


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> anyone who wants to win some prises ;D

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> That isn't cheating, Hack!

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> me using a flat 128

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hey JBEE, do you know what the storage capacity of a
1570 drive is? :)

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> C128 here ;D

<S.MAZZOTTA1> <--On a 128D, using Dialogue.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Just for fun...

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> In that case, "I'll be back" <Ahnuld>


<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Doug: this is a trick question, right?

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yes, 170k

** <[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> has left.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1
::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Hey!  [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1!  Don't forget your weapon!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1 has left!
How sad...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> JBEE :)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Good job, JBEE. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I guess Hack is going to check the libraries to won :D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> won=win

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Looks like 6 of 13 and akll thoughs using 128s

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> DC has a question.. GA!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> If anyone wants to here more about the PETSCII story, give me a
yell.

<S.MAZZOTTA1> Try doing this using a 64!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ROb, I do :D

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-sided 1571. Limited
production.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ROSE, WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<D.COZORT2> What is/was a dual 6502 (by the way I don't know the answer to this.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> DC.. Go Ahead with your Stump the Sysop question...

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> LOL, I do miss the C64 keys

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> 1570.... I just read "1571" because I thought I know what I was
seeing! :)

** <C.HITSELBER1> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a C.HITSELBER1!  He was very rich!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! C.HITSELBER1  Kick off those
boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there C.HITSELBER1! Glad you could make it!

<C.HITSELBER1> hm... could it be library 29?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> CH is a winner :D

<S.MAZZOTTA1> A single-sided 1571?  Hmm, that would sell really well!

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> what IS a 6502?? hehehehee

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> We have a winner ;)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> A chip, Rose


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC, you got to know the answers to your questions :D

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> The brains of your commie

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> chip? I have some of those..  :>

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> chocolate or peanut butter?


<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Is any qustion fair game?

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> I take it you want 1/2 hr of free time CH ?

<S.MAZZOTTA1> On your shoulder?

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Chocolate Rose?


<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Heh, it was before they had the 1571, so it was sort of
a 1541 with burst. :)

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ROSE, WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<C.HITSELBER1> That wouyld help my GEnie bill, yes, thank you.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Thus, uppercase only.  C= followed the standard, BUT, with
their first Pet,

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::tapping fingers:: waiting for a hand to raise::

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> OOPS

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> PETSCII: According to the Butterfield article, originally it
was very difficult

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> to get many characters on a CRT, and they were limited to
something like 32.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Thus, uppercase only.  C= followed the standard, BUT, with
their first Pet,

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> they did have lowercase... that you could get by shifting.
With the next

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> Ed.. Siddown! >:D

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> model, to support word processors, they switched the upper and
lower case


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Any Commodore question is fair

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> characters, so you could get upper case by shifting... and
thereby screwing

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> up compatability with standard ASCII.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> EMScompute has a question.. GA!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, interesting!

** <S.MAZZOTTA1> was <S.MAZZOTTA1>.

<D.COZORT2> I /rai

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> JBEE - It's a very good article, if you can get your hands on a
copy.

<C.HITSELBER1> Rob, would you be willing to type that up in an internet article?

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> When is Wrath of the Demond by Readysoft going to be
released for Commodore?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS, I give up, when?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH : I could post a summary of the Butterfield article, but I'd
be worried

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> about copyrights and plagarism since it's my only source....

** <[Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1> was <S.MAZZOTTA1>.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH : how about I put it in the FAQ?

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, I would get his permission first.

<[Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1> Thank you!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Gotcha in my clap trap, huh Rose.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> How does one get ahold of Jim Butterfield nowadays?

<C.HITSELBER1> that'd be cool.  I was just interested.

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> $1000 does it, RK.

<C.HITSELBER1> I think Jim Butterfield is an Amiga Defector or something.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> $1000 ????

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> He will come to your UG for $1000

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ho boy.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Did for ours a couple of years ago.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> What if you just want to ask him a question?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Got to chat w/him.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Is he an Amiga defector now?

<C.HITSELBER1> I might just hire him to come over and give me private lessons
in gurudom.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Maybe Tpug


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - your question coing up ....

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> In the sense that he also no longer does 64/128 stuff?

<C.HITSELBER1> he uploads on Qlink in a semi-regular way

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Geez, and I come if you just promise to buy product! :)

t find out about Wrath till late Friday
afternoon


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> saw him in ICPUG's (U.K.) newsletter about a Amiga
show he attended over there

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Doug : how far do you trave?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> travel, rather.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Not THAT far. :) Depends on the situation.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> OH, so you probably won't do my Antartica C128 User Group
meeting :)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> No, probably not...unless you can promise a pretty
darned big turnout.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - what category has a topic about clipart sources?

<C.HITSELBER1> I guess the CONZ is out of the question too.  (Commodoreheads Of
New Zealand)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Uh......

<[Mistress] YLR.ROSE> DC has a question.. GA!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> But WACUG isn't out of the question.

<[Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1> Commodore users?  Big turnout?--This IS 1992, not 1986,
folks!

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> GEOS, but I don't remember the #


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> guess that leaves out KONZ too (Kiwiheads of new
zealand)

<D.COZORT2> What microprocessor and operating system did the Commodore C900 use?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <HONK> nope - cat#11 :D (would have accepted #16 too)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> 8088?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> MS-DOS

<C.HITSELBER1> Hey, watch the language CBM-ED!`!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Was answering the question....  ;^)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Wasn't I??  >>grin<<


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> actually - could have gotten the question with
"INDEX" ^


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea, ED's a sysop, he cananswer them too:)

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> is that the right answer, DC?

<D.COZORT2> Was no.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Not the Colt, huh?

<D.COZORT2> I mean no.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC, what's the right answer?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ROSE, WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<D.COZORT2> Zilog Z8000 and Unix. Strange story.

** <[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> (Sent by 3) soon as ya give DC his question.. I'll
give ya the next participant..  :>

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Golly

onts] CMD-DOUG> Was it ever released?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC, while I get you a question, explain the story :D

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> CH has a question... Go Ahead!

<C.HITSELBER1> Name all the 6502 instructions that modify the stack pointer.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> yeesh! these guys are tough! :>

<C.HITSELBER1> hehehee

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :) All, or just all documented?

<C.HITSELBER1> just the documented ones.

<D.COZORT2> Before Trameil left C=, he made a deal with Zilog so that C= got to
produce the Z8000


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC - what library was the winning file file uploaded?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yeah, ZAPSTACK doesn't count. :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> How about the ones that crash the machine?

.g.bell] CBM-ED> Documented what?  hadda leave a minute


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Ed, you want to handle this question?

<C.HITSELBER1> There are no dodumented instructions that crash the machine
unless they are in a first draft of a program written by me.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ed: 6502 opcodes which change the stack pointer.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH :)

<D.COZORT2> (Zilog's attempt at a 16-bit processor. he planned to build a
system around it using Mark Williams Coherent.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> tsx:

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> php:pha

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> pla:plp

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (Does tsx modify the stack pointer?)

<C.HITSELBER1> no. tsx does not.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Yes, it does.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Uh oh

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> No, txs... not tsx.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> txs.... right....

<D.COZORT2> whe he left , some of the engineers went with him and the
prototy[pe disappeared.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Dlexsyic

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> dysfliger strikes again.. :>

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Sorry... but the ph/pls all do... And Butterfield *does*
mentione a dth instruction, but not a documented one.

<C.HITSELBER1> dth?  wazzat?

<C.HITSELBER1> any more?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Noel Nyman I think did a write up on it in the T some time
ago.

** <[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> has left.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI
::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Lets talk about [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI!  :::: snicker ::::

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI has left! How
sad...

<D.COZORT2> C= kept developing, but switched to real UNIX, They showed the C900
at CES and a couple of other places.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Also, did you ever hear of the 'smoke poke'?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH : :D....

<D.COZORT2> The case is almost identical to the A2000's.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> For the Pet, Ed?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Yeh

<C.HITSELBER1> smoke poke?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ED: that was the one on the Pet that would fry it, right?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Right


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> DC, like the LCD laptop ;)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Dangerous.....

<C.HITSELBER1> Oh, wasn't that a write to an I/O chip?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Yes...

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Well, the monitor wasn't it?

<C.HITSELBER1> yeah, I think it was in the video control chip.

<D.COZORT2> They may have actually produced and sold a few somewhere in Europe,
but I doubt it.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Something to do w/timing as I recall.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Yeah, that sounds like what I heard.

<C.HITSELBER1> you could also diddle the cassette motor on and off very fast.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> "Drive Music."

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> ::: shudder:::

<C.HITSELBER1> so are we ready for the offical answer yet?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Somebody was telling me about a 64 program that would play
music by thrashing

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> It got fixed in later Pets.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> the heads of your 1541.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob - yea - sounds neat

<C.HITSELBER1> I have that!  It's cool!  I play it at my friends' house.

<D.COZORT2> C128.JBEE, yes exactly like the laptop, and actually the June after
they intoed the laptop.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH : yes, at your friends' ... that's the key. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> CH - yea - play's it on a friend's drive - not his =)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> How many times have they had to align their 1541?

<[Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1> Rob, will it work on a 1571?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yeah, real cool...don't try it on my 1541.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I dunno.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> e.g.bell has a question!! Go Ahead, ED..
hehehehehehehehe

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I've never seen it.

<C.HITSELBER1> I assert that I have stumped the sysop.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Wait... did Ed fully answer CH's question?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> CH - what is the "answer"

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I second CH's motion if he did.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> About the stack stuff?

<C.HITSELBER1> jsr: rts: brk: rti: php: pha: plp: pla: txs


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> how about CLI?

<C.HITSELBER1> did I leave any out?

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> No, not cli

<C.HITSELBER1> CLI only clears a bit in the psw.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CLI doesn't change the stack pointer, does it?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Nope, it doesn't.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> what is psw?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Processor Status Whatyamacallit?

<C.HITSELBER1> processor status word.  sorry, creeping vaxism

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> It's not a word though....

<C.HITSELBER1> it is on an eight-bit architecture :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> The 6502 only has 8 status bits, doesn't it?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Yep. Quite correct nomenclature.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Or, rather, seven?

<C.HITSELBER1> NV-BDIZC

<D.COZORT2> Hate to ask and run , but my wife just turned off the lights and
climbed into bed, which I think is a hint for me to stop clacking keys in here
and go to bed.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> That's just a byte.  Why is it called a word?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> DC - :)

** <E.SIELSKI> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a E.SIELSKI!  He was very rich!

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! E.SIELSKI  Kick off those
boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy ther[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::STUMP:: you are hereb
y Stumped CH!.. hehehehe

** <[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> was <C.HITSELBER1>.

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> ouch.  She hit me with LOG

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> did you get /'d

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> You should have seen the SINs of it coming.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> She'll TAN your hide if you're not careful.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> COS she said so.

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Actually, it was a Ren and Stimpy reference.
Please, these puns aren't FUN.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> What, did I drive you all off?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Are you ABSolutely sure about that?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ooooh, ouch. :)

B


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Okay CH - how many redefinable "function" keys on a
C-128?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> If I had a 128, I'd be able to answer that.  But
since I don't have a 128, I give up.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> I know, I know!  >:D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> okay - forget the question - another one coming

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ::jumping:: ooh, ooh, ooh


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> okay Rob - you can answer it :D

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> 10

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> F1-F8, HELP, RUN


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> "you are correct sir"

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Sort of...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> yayyyy!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Sort of... waddaminnit, you ain't gonna give me more of this
word stuff, are ya?

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

** <[Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> hehehehe

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Lets talk about [Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1!  :::: snicker ::::

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1 has left! How sad...

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [Sam] S.MAZZOTTA1
::SPLASH::SPLASH::


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Okay CH - name a Commodore inkjet printer!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> ROSE, WHO IS THE NEXT ONE WITH A QUESTION?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> You stumped me again.  I have no clue.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> quit SHOUTING at me, JBee... no one has their hand
raised..  :<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH - name it "Fred" in honor of Mr. Bowen.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I have a question: what does the "EE" stand for in "C128.JBEE"?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> sorry Rose, let me change the macro :D
<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> I may be in TEXAS.. but I aint deef!  :>


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> rose, who is the next one with a question?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Extremely Eccentric

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> C= commodore.  JB = John Brown.  128 = Godlike Computer.  EE=?

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Go Ahead, Rob.. is that your stumper question?  :>

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Uhhh, not really, just a question :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EE - Extremely Ear rit tating

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> EE=Ecentric Egomaniac

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :)
<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::ducking::

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Electronic Enthusiast

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> elephant ears

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Easter Eyesland

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Exhuberent Eggbeater?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> ok, let's get back to the puns please.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Eternal Egghead?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ::ducking::


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> by telling you  to "Go Ahead"  GA (your nam

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> to ask a question type /raise - rose will call on you

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> when finished.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> hmm...

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> got em backwards didnt ya? hehehee


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> actually I look like a bee - I have a big stinger ;)

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ok, EMScompute.. GA! >:D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> yea, let me fix that

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> and a segmented eye

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> How many OUTPUT ports are thier on the Grappler
Interface for Commodore?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Boy, I'm glad he didn't ask anything too esoteric.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> LOL

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> never had a GI.. (well, human yes.. cartridge no..
)...hehehee

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> tsk tsk tsk


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - the RS232 one?

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Have one sittimg here beside me :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> What, a soldier?

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> married to one Rob.. and I was a soldier-ette years
ago..  :>

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Total of 4, 1 Parallel, 2 Serial (Male & Female), 1
pass through User Port

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I'm a sone of a soldier....

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ports 'R' Us, sounds like.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> I'm daughter of a SEAman.. hehehehe

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> Amazing little device

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ho boy.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> >groan<

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> But it HATES! Geos

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Where can you get 'em nowadays?

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> uh oh... gotta go.  Real work.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> LOL!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm...


<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Niters Hack!

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS- RS232 or the serial port one?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> REAL work????????

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> Hey, can I get 10% off my 10% on the CMD order?

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Nite hack

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Bumer.

<[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> hahaha

** <[Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1> has left.

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1
::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Alas!  Poor [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1!  I knew him well!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Hack Hogan] C.HITSELBER1 has left!
How sad...

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED>

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> CH : then you'd only get 9% off....

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> There is 1 RS232 (IBM Printer Port) cable, the other
utputs are all for Commodore


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS your question coming up ^

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Does it go into the user port or cartraige port?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> atdt967-9452


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - how many slots in the Navarone Slot expander ?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Ed: you don't say....

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Wazzat me???  >>> oops <<<

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> >>>grin<<<

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> 2

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> For a good time call atdt967-9452

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> LOL

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Ask for Bruce!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> hee hee

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> LOL

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Dial 1-900-YLR-ROSE!

<[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> It plugs into the User Port

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Uh oh...

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Think I'll let Rose call.



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> no, 3, its called the "navarone 3 slot expander" -
probably too hard - pretty

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> old - here's another question instead ...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Love the juxtaposition up there.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> hehehe

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> JBEE, what are the three laws of Rock'n'Roll?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug - I give up

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (1) Beethoven was great ...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - what category is Micro-Bytes product support?

** <[EMScompute] E.SIELSKI> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Alas!  Poor [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI!  I knew him well!

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Leaving already?.. [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI
::SPLASH::SPLASH::

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [EMScompute] E.SIELSKI has left! How
sad...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Really? Try checking Question 71 in 500 C128 Questions:
Answered...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> 1) It works better if you plug it in...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> 2) It works better if you turn it on...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> 3) It works better if you turn it up.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Print that manual, YR.  then ----====>>>> READ IT
<<<<====----   ;^)

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> >> grin <<

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> oops!

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> read???wuzat?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> RTFM, you mean....

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Right, what he said!

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> A reed is what oboe and bassoon players use to produce their
sound.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug - you can license the rom code as long as you
buy the 6526 ;D

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Apparently Loren thought this applied well to computer
users as well.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> LOL

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> How does one turn up one's C128?

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> poke 54296,0-15

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (Add a RAMLink? ;) )

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ED : :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> (disable the shadows)

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Turn up the volume, brightness, etc., on a monitor...


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> #3 was referring to Doug's contrast (wink-wink)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> I did.

** <E.SIELSKI> is here.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> I used to know a E.SIELSKI!  He was very rich!

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> Well, lookie who's here! E.SIELSKI  Kick off those
boots!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Howdy there E.SIELSKI! Glad you could make it!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> (blushing)

** <[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> was <E.SIELSKI>.

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> 15

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Heh, somebody must have told you a story, JBEE...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Uh oh... blackmail time!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> "you are correct sir"

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::

<[Sysop-tress] YLR.ROSE> ::clap::clap::


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS wins a copy of Micro-Bytes :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Thunderous, SCREAMING applause!

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> I had to be sure this time :)



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> to ask a question type /raise - rose will call on you

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> when finished.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> rose, who is the next one with a question?

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> What was that about ROM code licenses, JBEE?

<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> nobody..  :<

<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> Rob has a question.. GA!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> oh what the heck - 7 minutes left - fire away :D

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> What does "TMNWH" stand for?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (This is a C= question, honest.)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug - just commenting licensing the roms cost more
than the chip :D

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Heh, it can. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> The Masked Nerd Was Here (screwing up my disk
directory ;)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Hee.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> That'll be fixed.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Nothing was harmed, really.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <- JBEE has learned never to reset the computer
without "closing" geoPager :D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> cute icon though :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> <- has learned TO reset computer without "closing" geoPager.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :)

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> deskTop's tendency to delete TEMPORARY files kept me from
seeing that bug.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Couple years ago.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> What was a couple of years ago?

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> (1990?)

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> How much memory in a 128D?

bell] CBM-ED> right, 1990.


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Rob, time :D

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> ES : whose C128D :F

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> :D, not :F

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> Mine

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> Actualy, stock 128


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS - counting ROMs and VDC?

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> 128D

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> yes


<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> Easy question

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> <will pass that question to Doug so he does some work
;D


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> actually - D's have more ROM than a flat C-128 ...

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> They do???

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Wow, learn something new every day.

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> mmT3w-tXvOh, wait, I bet I know what you're talking about....

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Oh, wait, I bet I know what you're talking about....

<[Rob] R.KNOP1> hello?


<[Rob] R.KNOP1> Did we die?

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug must be sleeping ...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> No, I'm not. :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> just counting them all on your toes? :D

** <[Rob] R.KNOP1> has left.

<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> where did...[Rob] R.KNOP1 go? They left their credit c

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Alas!  Poor [Rob] R.KNOP1!  I knew him well!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Rob] R.KNOP1 has left! How sad...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Memory in a 128?


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> Doug - how much "total" memory in a C-128D

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmm...just a sec...

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> Could have been worse, could have asked the number of
RAM chips in a C64


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> EMS, I could answer both ;)

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> I know :)


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> matter of fact I still owe someone a flat c128, don't
I rose ;)

Horizons Software?



<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> actually - I asked someone how many 4164s in a C64
and they took there computer

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> apart to find out and they had a C64C :D


<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> ahem.. YES, JBee.. seems there is one due to my house
anytime now..  :>

<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> well - the answer could have been 192K DRAM


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> 32K rom


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> x2

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> I got 186K...

<[Tom] T.ADAMS18> Well, folks I'm going to call it a night, see ya Tuesday Doug.

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Oops...

<[EMSCompute] E.SIELSKI> Got to be at least 192K Doug :)

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> See ya Tom!

<[Wizard`user`] M.DULSKI1> Night Tom!

<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> Niters Tom!


<[`*`Sysop`*`] C128.JBEE> see ay Tom!

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Thats right...forgot to count part of the Kernal.

** <[Tom] T.ADAMS18> has left.

<[e.g.bell] CBM-ED> Alas!  Poor [Tom] T.ADAMS18!  I knew him well!

<[Sysop-ette] YLR.ROSE> where did...[Tom] T.ADAMS18 go? They left their credit c

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> Hmmm... Looks like [Tom] T.ADAMS18 has left! How sad...

<[Mr. Fonts] CMD-DOUG> (The part under Char ROM...)