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rea 31-32 nor rea 34-35 nor ************ Topic 31 Mon Apr 04, 1994 C.HANNA (Forwarded) Sub: 8-bit pd softe ware where is the company 8-bit software? 7 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 1 Tue Apr 05, 1994 C.HANNA (Forwarded) 8-bit, po box 542, Lindenhurst , NY 11757-0542 phone5169571110 is missing...at least I can't find them. there is no answer to the p phone and I haven't gotten my $50 worth of pd software. anyonw e know any any thing? ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 2 Tue Apr 05, 1994 N.PHI [Toto] at 06:35 EDT About "8 BIT", the public domain software vendor: That's really too bad that you can't be in contact with them. I have been a frequent customer of 8 BIT in the past, and they normall provide very good service. True enough, while renovating their house last summer, they had a little trouble keeping up with their orders, but I was under the impression that things were back up and rolling after the new catalog was printed and distributed! ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 3 Tue Apr 12, 1994 C.HANNA at 20:40 EDT what is the address and phone number on the "new catalog" for 8-bit "8- bit"? Is the ad above same ast the s the first message? Who is/are the names of the people people who run "8-bit"? ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 4 Tue Apr 19, 1994 C.HANNA at 20:44 EDT note! I have given the dates on my order for software an extra look. The orig the original oreder was made about 8weeks ago! I aloso...also chekced... checked on wether...whether...the money order I sent was cashed or not. The $57.00 money order I sent to 8-bit was cashed on march 9,1994! That date was about 5 weeks ahho../.ago. I guess i might have some hope but hope is dwindling and anger growing. ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 5 Tue Apr 19, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 21:31 EDT The phone number I show listed in a new ad for 8-bit is 516-957-1110, and it lists business hours of 10 AM to 5 PM ES/DT, Monday through Friday. My dealings with them in the past have been limited, but I've had no problems with them delivering. Hopefully you'll be able to get the situation resolved. ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 6 Mon Apr 25, 1994 C128.JBEE at 19:33 EDT > C.HANNA > I guess i might have some hope but hope is dwindling and anger growing. You should drop them a postcard or letter inquiring about your order. ------------ Category 2, Topic 31 Message 7 Tue Apr 26, 1994 C.HANNA at 21:16 EDT I was ,literaly sencin...d...sending/taking my postcard tjo to the mail box when the package with my disks arrived. The postmark was april 18,1994 a bit or b ...over 8weeks from the original order and 5 weeks since the money oredr was cashed. I have learned my lesson although I may order from 8-bit or other mailorder comanayies... companies my orders will be very small the first ttime, anvd probably very spread out. unless I know the company very well! I bbelieve that every thing I ordered arived...thank you 8-bit you did come tharough. ( just don't expect overnight service). now if I can just find rio... ta ...Thanks to all for your help and comments. this is the last comment I will make unless something new happens ------------ ************ Topic 32 Wed Apr 06, 1994 C.TAYLOR37 [C=Hacking] at 03:09 EDT Sub: Commodore Stock suspended trading Hi! - Heard C= Stock was suspended in trading as it fell below $1.00 a share.... Just wondering rumours, news and jive people have heard about current status of C= North America. 12 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 1 Wed Apr 06, 1994 C.TAYLOR37 [C=Hacking] at 03:09 EDT Anyone know anything substantial or should I buffer some of the rumours going on in comp.sys.cbm and post 'em??? - Craig Taylor (C.Taylor37, duck@pembvax1.pembroke.edu) ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 2 Wed Apr 06, 1994 C128.JBEE at 05:42 EDT Sure, post them. Doubt it fell to under $1. Can check it easily enough though online :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 3 Wed Apr 06, 1994 R.KING53 [Ron] at 20:40 EDT Commodore actually closed at 3/8 (down 2 1/4!) last Thursday when trading was stopped to see if CBU was still "financially responsible". It lost 75% of it's price. It made #2 of the Top Ten NYSE Losers of the Week in "Barrons" magazine... I've been afraid to look this week. ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 4 Thu Apr 07, 1994 C128.JBEE at 01:20 EDT This might be the best time to buy stock :) ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 5 Thu Apr 07, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 06:20 EDT If you do, it's a big gamble. Insider talk has Prudential, their largest institutional investor, taking things over; this seems almost a certainty at this point, since company assets are down to almost nothing, debt is at around $300 million, suits are pouring in for non-payment from suppliers, and no-one is willing to loan them what they need to get out of their current cash-flow situation. If Pru does take over, they have to decide whether to liquidate or try to make a go of things themselves. The latter appears to be the better solution, since Pru does have the money to do it, and the outstanding orders for product appear to be enough to get things back on track provided money is secured to build to fulfill those orders. But where the stock is concerned, there are many ways in such a takeover that the stock itself could become completely worthless, even while the company goes on to continue producing and selling. Thus, it is indeed a huge gamble to buy (though the payoff could be substantial if a turn-around does occur). Chances are you won't be able to get the stock through NYSE, though. It's been mentioned that whatever stock has been trading recently has been mostly through backwater exchanges. ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 6 Thu Apr 07, 1994 C128.JBEE at 08:44 EDT Thanks for the information Doug, I did not know that :) If there is a take over from investors, it might be a good time for someone to scoop up remaining 8 bit items of value like DevPak128. Things no longer being sold but of value to someone. ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 7 Fri Apr 08, 1994 H.STEVENS5 [HaroldOH] at 20:45 EDT You know it's kind of funny that Commodore Business Machines went down the tubes when they brought in the guy from Apple to run their company. The first thing he did was dump Commodore Magazine (giving it to RUN) and then he was the influence to get rid of the C-64/128 computers. He thought that the Amiga was Commodore's savior and he wanted to make it a powerful machine like the MacIntosh (since they both use similar Motorola processors ) and give Appple a run for their money. The only problem was that CBM just didn't have the guts to take on Apple or IBM. Serves the company right for dumping us loyal C- 64/128 users. --Harold ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 8 Sun Apr 10, 1994 C128.JBEE at 00:53 EDT 300,000 stocks traded and closed at 7/8 ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 9 Sun Apr 10, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] at 11:31 EDT I hope whoever bought those 300,000 shares likes 8-bit computers! :D ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 10 Wed Apr 27, 1994 R.SNYDER2 at 01:43 EDT 4-12-94 600,000 shares traded at just over $3 a share. ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 11 Sat Apr 30, 1994 J.ROBBINS16 [JBUS] at 05:29 EDT Huummmm.. a big 'uh-oh' seems to be in order here. Check out the AP release. A very sad day today. ------------ Category 2, Topic 32 Message 12 Sun May 01, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] at 11:57 EDT COMMODORE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED TO LIQUIDATE NEW YORK, April 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Commodore International Limited (NYSE: CBU) announced today that its Board Of Directors has authorized the transfer of its assets to trustees for the benefit of its creditors and has placed its major subsidiary, Commodore Electronics Limited, into voluntary liquidation. This is the initial phase of an orderly liquidation of both companies, which are incorporated in the Bahamas, by the Bahamas Supreme Court. CONTACT: Hock Tan, CFO of Commodore International Limited, 215-431-9160/ ### COMMODORE FOLDS By DINAH WISENBERG BRIN Associated Press Writer WEST CHESTER, Pa. (AP) -- Commodore International Ltd., a pioneer in the personal computer industry, said late Friday it is going out of business. The company plans to transfer its assets to unidentified trustees "for the benefit of its creditors" and has placed its major subsidiary, Commodore Electronics Ltd., into voluntary liquidation. "This is the initial phase of an orderly voluntary liquidation of both companies," Commodore said in a brief statement. Company executives could not immediately be reached Friday evening. The company last month reported an $8.2 million loss for the quarter ending Dec. 31 on sales of $70.1 million. A year earlier, Commodore lost $77.2 million on sales of $237.7 million in the same period. In the latest report, Commodore said financial limits had thwarted its ability to supply products, leading to weakened sales. One of its new products, the Amiga CD32 video game, had sold poorly in Europe, where the company did most of its business. The company's net worth turned negative in the fiscal year ended last June 30. Its stock, which had traded at around $3 per share before the quarterly results were announced last month, closed unchanged at 87 1/2 cents per share on the New York Stock Exchange Friday. "This is a company that briefly captured the attention of the American market and didn't go where the market was going," said David Coursey, editor of the newsletter P.C. Letter in San Mateo, Calif. "They just never managed to change with the marketplace." While grabbing some market share and attention in the late 1970s, Commodore's products were something between PCs and game machines "and never quite became either," Coursey said. Commodore started 40 years ago as a typewriter repair company in the Bronx. Its extension to the adding machine business paved the way for it to make calculators and then personal computers by the mid-1970s. Commodore competed with Radio Shack for the first computers sold to homes and co-founder Jack Tramiel became a highly-regarded figure in the fledgling PC industry. By the early 1980s, it was overshadowed in the PC business by Apple Computer Inc. and IBM. Software manufacturers didn't create as much software for Commodore's Amiga line as it did for Apple and IBM-compatible machines. In recent years, most of Commodore's business was in Europe. NewTek Inc. of Topeka, Kan., created a product called Video Toaster that converted Commodore's Amiga to a video-editing system. The $2,500 product was popular with small advertising agencies and home hobbyists. The company's phones were busy Friday night. ### Commodore International <CBU.N> to liquidate NEW YORK, April 29 (Reuter) - Commodore International Ltd said it authorized the transfer of its assets to trustees for the benefit of its creditors and placed its major subsidiary, Commodore Electronics Ltd into voluntary liquidation. The company said this is the initial phase of an orderly liquidation of both companies, which are incorporated in the Bahamas, by the Bahamas Supreme Court. --New York Newsdesk 212-603-3310. ### ------------ 2 ************ Topic 34 Wed Apr 20, 1994 P.KELLER5 [Knight Rider] at 05:59 EDT Sub: Super Graphics Jr. & Sr. - Discontinued Current information on ordering this printer interface from three of the mail order places. 8 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 1 Wed Apr 20, 1994 P.KELLER5 [Knight Rider] at 06:06 EDT I have tried three places: Software upport International, Tenex & CMD, to order either the Super Graphics Jr. or Sr. and all three said it has been discontinued. I just bought a Epson 3250 24pin printer and would have liked to have bought one of those interfaces. Now I might be stuck with this interface I got from a friend, but you can only use it in Commodore printer mode (like in GEOS, only Commodore Compat. printer I can use). I would like to use my printer in the Epson mode. Anyone have any suggestions?? ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 2 Wed Apr 20, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 07:04 EDT Sounds like a mission for .................. SUPER CMD !!! Faster than a speeding mouse, leaps tall Hardrives in a single bound.. Turns out nw and improved interfaces without a sound. ....Or you could advertise your need in Category 10. It does sound like a potential problem, I wasn'T aware of it. Of course, I wasn't aware of the mouse problem until it hit me in the face.....Super CMD saved us by building a better one. :) - Tim ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 3 Wed Apr 20, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 20:27 EDT We're now stocking the Micrographics MW-350 interface, since the Xetec models are no longer available. The MW-350 isn't quite as well done as the Xetec Super Graphics Senior, but I'd put it above the Xetec Jr in capabilities. ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 4 Wed Apr 20, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 20:54 EDT SEE!!! CMD comes to the rescue. ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 5 Mon Apr 25, 1994 C128.JBEE at 19:33 EDT > P.KELLER5 mode (like in GEOS, only Commodore Compat. printer I can use). > I would like to use my printer in the Epson mode. Anyone have any > suggestions?? If you are using this mostly under GEOS you could make or buy a geoCable. ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 6 Sun May 01, 1994 L.SCHONDER [C128.LOU] at 11:58 EDT What about the "G-Wiz" interface? Is that discontinued too? ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 7 Sun May 01, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 15:29 EDT Yes, the G-Wiz, originally made by Cardco, then sold to Supra, is no longer in production or available through distribution. ------------ Category 2, Topic 34 Message 8 Wed May 11, 1994 P.KELLER5 [Knight Rider] at 06:46 EDT An update to my search for a printer interface, I finally got a Xetec Super Graphics Jr. from our local Commodore store, Tech Star! They had about 3 of them (of course now only 2 as of a couple of weeks ago) and snatched one very fast! Now I'm complete and my printer works beautifully! ------------ ************ Topic 35 Sun May 01, 1994 J.STEPHENSO1 [Jimbo] at 00:57 EDT Sub: What the H is going on? Where is the Flagship when I need it most? 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 2, Topic 35 Message 1 Sun May 01, 1994 J.STEPHENSO1 [Jimbo] at 01:02 EDT For the past few nights I have been unable to get into the Flagship. The system keeps giving me a message stating that this section is currently unavailable, and to try back later. Then, last night, I finally got through and was kicked back to "Input User Number" in the middle of reading messages. Could one of the sysops approach the PTB (Powers That Be) and find out what's going on? Maybe offer a sacrifice while you're there? I asked in the GEnius round table (*shudder*), but all they could say was that there were hardware problems, and I should keep trying. Jimbo ------------ Category 2, Topic 35 Message 2 Sun May 01, 1994 C128.JBEE at 17:04 EDT There was a hardware failure (it died) that took down several RTs, this one included, and it happened both days during peak usage :P Same with me, I was online both nights to try to upload files and got dropped back to the U#= prompt and got "that system unavailable". They fixed the problem, just one of those things that happen <shrug>. ------------ Category 2, Topic 35 Message 3 Sun May 01, 1994 C128.JBEE at 17:04 EDT Course it would have been better if it didn't happen the day C= went out of business :D ------------ Category 2, Topic 35 Message 4 Tue May 10, 1994 D.TUOMI [Doctor] at 03:25 EDT It's a conspiracy. Doc. ------------ 2