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************ Topic 14 Tue Feb 05, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 16:51 MST Sub: Run Stop disable for PET I need a way to disable the run/stop key on a 4032 PET. The CBM educational programs I uploaded have the routein I need but I can't figure out how to use it or where in the program it's at. :/ 25 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 1 Tue Feb 05, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 16:54 MST Also, for those of you who own 4032s this one-liner causes a VERY spectacular effect. I don't know why it does what it does,but it causes the screen to flash VERY brightly. This MIGHT also work on a 8032 but I don't know.. 10 PRINTCHR$(14)+CHR$(142)+CHR$(147):GOTO10 --<M.K.>-- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 2 Tue Feb 05, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 22:21 EST It only takes a simple poke to the test for stop key vector. I can't remember offhand the vector location or value to use and will have to look this info up and get back to you on it. As for your one liner - what you are doing is switching between text and graphics mode. In the 4032 & 8032 computers the number of scan lines per character row can be adjusted. In text mode it uses 9 scan lines and graphics mode uses 7 scan lines per row. This way there is a bit more space between rows in text mode which makes reading text a bit easyer. If you were to try and use some graphic characters to create a vertical line in text mode, there would be gaps in the line. There is a way around this, but I hesitate on posting it because playing with pokes to the CRT chip can ( and will ) smoke the monitor. I would even hesitate running your one liner for very long. The monitors in these machines are not the most rugged ever built. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 3 Thu Feb 07, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 17:06 MST EEEK! ThanX Gary! About the only use I have for that program is adding a FORT=1TO100000:NEXT before it and getting out of the room so it freaks out my teacher :) ...or simulating a 'self-distruct' I'm also looking for some )(a bunch)( PET programs for use at school. Out of the eight or so schools here in Butte, there are probably around 30 or more PETs, but nobody has any good programs. I'd really like to see a PET software library on GEnie or something like that. I also understand that there are a ton of PET users groups,especially TPUG (Toronto PET Users Group) Anybody have any address for these users groups? -=<M.K.>=- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 4 Thu Feb 07, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 21:58 EST I'm probably going to regret the time this is going to cost me <GRIN>, but I do have a rather extensive collection of PET/CBM PD software and will send you a listing of it if you would like. There are about 40 8050 format disks in all. The software varies from utilities, a few good productivity programs, games and quite a bit of the CBM education series. BTW: I wrote to TPUG about 6 months ago to the address listed in one of the later Transactor issues. The letter was returned and stamped MOVED and there was no forwarding address. So I would be interested also in knowing where to write to if they are still in existance. Gary ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 5 Thu Feb 07, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 20:22 MST [] <> :* Thanks Gary! One other thing.. I'm using the PETLOAD SETUP program from the GEnie library to transfer files from the 64 to the PET and I have to run the program and then load the program I wan't to change to the PET,scratch the program,and resave it. is there any way to do this faster than: LOAD"{program name}",8 OPEN15,8,15:PRINT#15,"S:{program name}":CLOSE15 SAVE"{program name}",8 This process gets really boring when I'm converting whole disks. :/ -=<M.K.>=- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 6 Fri Feb 08, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 08:38 EST If I was doing it, I would leave the original disk alone and save all the converted files to a fresh disk. I'm sure that it's boring converting a whole disk that way, but unless you can write a ML program that is about the best that can be done. I don't have the spare time at the moment to write such an automatic converter. It could be done in basic, but it would be quite slow. You would have to read in the file dierctory, read in each file while adjusting line pointers and then re-write the file. BTW: could you give me your address again, it's burried in about a 2 foot stack of printouts that I would rather not have to search thru. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 7 Fri Feb 08, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 07:39 MST :) One of these days I'll read my book on how to ML program but until then I guess it's the long way. I'll send you my address via E-Mail --=<M.K.>=-- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 8 Fri Feb 08, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 14:42 EST Got your address and will be sending out a listing by early next week. BTW: would a copy of a memory map for these machines be of any use to you. I could include it along with the listing. Gary ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 9 Fri Feb 08, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 17:58 MST Memory map of what ? ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 10 Sat Feb 09, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 09:48 EST A memory map of the CBM 8032 and some of the other PET computers. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 11 Sat Feb 09, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 13:44 MST Every little bit would help. ;) -----=====<Montana Kid>=====----- [B-) ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 12 Thu Feb 21, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 08:02 MST Gary, How hard is it to convert an 8050 disk to 1541 format. The only PET drive we he at school is a 2041. --==<M.K.>=- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 13 Thu Feb 21, 1991 VOYAGER-1 [Gary V] at 13:55 EST It wouldn't be hard if both kinds of drives were connected to the same computer. It would then just be a matter of making a copy of the files on one drive to the other. The 8050 holds much more data than a 1541, so it would take 3 or 4 1541 disks to copy the files from one 8050 disk. Unfortunately, I dont have a way ( yet ) to connect my 8050 to the 64/128 or one of my 1541's to the PET. Eventualy, when finances are good and the deal is right, I will pick up an IEEE interface for my 128. I just busted the finances a week ago, so it might be a while before I could convert any of my PET collection for you. One of the other schools in your district might have a 8050. It's worth checking into. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 14 Fri Feb 22, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 15:21 MST Ya - I'll ask around and see where that gets me. (In a town like this it should take about 3 days for it to get around to everyone - and about a week and a half for all of Montana to know) -:Grin:- -==<M.K.>==- ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 15 Sat Feb 23, 1991 C128.JBEE at 19:56 EST I think it has been mentioned before, but, if you have a MSD disk drive you can connect it by it's IEEE interface with a cable to a pet and write 1541 disks on it. By the same token you can transfer 1541 based programs to a PET. Though I haven't actually tried this because I never had a PEt people have told me it works. BTW:the MSD has both a serial and IEEE connection ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 16 Sun Apr 14, 1991 S.ADAMOWICZ2 at 18:50 EDT This might be a little out of place, but it's the closest I could find. SOmbody asked me If I knew the commands for a PET Disk Drive. That is, hiow does one get a directory, load and save a file, open a file from basic? If sombody could send GEmail (I dont have a C= machine, so I have no reason to check in here) I would be thankfull. If anybody could tell me by the 17 of april I would be even more thankfull! Thanx to all that read this... ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 17 Mon Apr 15, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 07:40 EDT Well, you didn't say what computer you are using with the drive so here goes: directory or diR onu8 catalog or cA onu8 "u8"=the unit number. If the unit number is 11 then it would be cA onu11 load"$",8 would load the directory into memory like a program file. Once it is loaded in you can "list" it by typing LIST and then the RETURN key. Sure there is more to add but those are the basics ;) Combinations of different computers/drives maybe use the same syntax or something a bit different. You have to leave more information about the model of the disk drive and computer. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 18 Mon Apr 15, 1991 S.ADAMOWICZ2 at 22:46 EDT I dont realy know to be honest. I know next to nothing about C= stuff. I think the drive is a 2081 or something like that I know that the first number was a 2. It's not my computer, sombody asked me at work, so I dicided this would be a nice thing to do. besides diging up old info is sort of a fun chalenge. I dont know what computer it is. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 19 Tue Apr 16, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 03:59 EDT Well, sounds like a 2001 to me but I know next to nothing about the Pet series. We will have to wait untill later this week when the pros sign on :D ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 20 Wed Apr 17, 1991 J.COLLINS5 [GeojoeC] at 00:22 EDT Well if it's a 2001, LOAD"$",8 should work. The old ASSCI used in the PET was ported over to the VIC and C64/128 along with all the directory structures used in the old "Who needs a disk drive" days. But if it a 2049 or greater you can use the BASIC 4.0 Directory command or diR. Best of luck! ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 21 Wed Apr 17, 1991 S.ADAMOWICZ2 at 21:32 EDT So to load a program the command is LOAD"<filename>",8 and to save a program is SAVE"<filename>",8 ? ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 22 Thu Apr 18, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 05:11 EDT Yes, on some files you might have to use LOAD"<filename>",8,1 but most should be fine without the comma/one. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 23 Thu Apr 18, 1991 S.ADAMOWICZ2 at 21:43 EDT What is the ',1' for? (not that it matters, I'm just wondering) ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 24 Fri Apr 19, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 05:40 EDT It means to load the program into memory from where it was saved. Used mostly for machine language programs so they execute properly. ------------ Category 21, Topic 14 Message 25 Fri Apr 19, 1991 S.ADAMOWICZ2 at 15:54 EDT Oh. I used PET's and C64's in high school. Well, I used PET's. I dont like the C64. I much perfered my Color Computer. The BASIC was and IS much better. The Discdrive was also worlds faster. The graphi- cs on the CoCo 1&2 was not as good as the C64 though. I got my CoCo3, I still like it better in some ways than my 386SX MS-DOS box I got now. With the OS-9 operatins sys. I had 16 tasks running, all from 1 SSDD floppy and 512K of ram. That's another thing I like about the COCO3, I could do all of theat with 512K, I cnad to that with MY pc and 1 meg. Anyway, back to C= stuff. I dont know why, I just liked the PET's bettter, they were more fun. Not as fun as the MAC's they had, but fun none the less. Oh well, TTYL. ------------ 1. CATegories 10. INDex of topics 2. NEW messages 11. SEArch topics 3. SET category 12. DELete message 4. DEScribe CAT 13. IGNore category 5. TOPic list 14. PROmpt setting 6. BROwse new msgs 15. SCRoll setting 7. REAd messages 16. NAMe used in BB 8. REPly to topic 17. EXIt the BB 9. STArt a topic 18. HELp on commands Enter #, <Command> or <HEL>p 21 ?