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CBM Digest Volume 02 #070

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CONTENTS: (54 messages)
    128D & lots of stuff for sale
    Re: 1581 problems
    Re: 1581 problems
    Re: 1581 problems
    Re: 3d graphics
    buying joystick for commodore
    Re: buying joystick for commodore
    C64 for Sale
    C64 Overheat Crash!!!
    C= Hacking MailServer FileList / Update
    Re: CMD HD prob solved <?>
    commodore software and games for sale
    Re: Communication software for C128
    Communication software for C128
    Re: Communication software for C128
    Re: computer humor
    CONFIG
    Constructing a NULL-Modem cable to C64
    cp/m mode for c128
    Re: DEMO ZAKS TO PC/MOD
    Re: DEMO ZAKS TO PC/MOD
    Re: DesTerm 2.01 & Zmodem?
    DesTerm 2.01 & Zmodem?
    Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
    Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
    Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
    Re: Disk Recovery and Fast hack'em...
    Re: Disk Recovery and Fast hack'em...
    File List Maintining - DCMR RULES
    Re: File List Maintining Program
    for sale: 1571s accessories monitor printer
    For Sale 1650 :>
    Re: For the Programmers...
    Re: ggKoala format
    Re: ggKoala format
    Re: ggKoala format
    Re: ggKoala format (how do I decompress this?)
    Graveyard BBS list 07/10/94
    Re: How to change 1541 drive ID?
    Re: How to change 1541 drive ID?
    Jumpman
    Re: Looking for Sandy, Zak, Eight, and AR
    Lt.K program needed
    Re: Lt.K program needed
    monitor
    Re: NATO COMMANDER
    PROGRAMMER'S CROSS REFERENCE
    Re: Raid over Moscow HELP!
    Re: SID Editor drums???
    Re: SID Editor drums???
    Re: SID Editor drums???
    SLIP compatible prog for C-64?
    Re: Sold C64 with paddles -- followup
    Wanted Lt.Kernal

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From:    [e-mail] (Jeff Davis - WCM/18apr94)
Subject: 128D & lots of stuff for sale
Date:    10 Jul 1994 22:33:22 GMT

Hi all,

I love my Commodore but I need cash, I have a C 128D w/internal 1571, 1760 Ram
expander, 1581 drive, epson printer, RGB monitor, mini modem C, 1351 mouse, C64,
Indus GT disk drive, 1541 disk drive, 3 joy sticks, roller ball control, suncom
keyboard joystick, full set of GEOS 128 2.0 software and hundreds of disk full
of software.  Write of call for more info.

[e-mail]
or phone me 9-5 monday thru friday  [phone], that is Work of Art
Photography ask to speak to Jeff.

Have a great day.



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From:    Jim Stephenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: 1581 problems
Date:    Sat, 9 Jul 94 02:37:58 -0500

David Belter <[e-mail]> writes:

>I can't get StereoPlayer 10.3 to run from my FD2000 even in '81 emulation mode.
>:(


That's funny, mine works.  Of course I use native-mode partitions.  Have you
tried turning off all fastloads?

Jimbo



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From:    [e-mail] (Nhat-Viet Phi)
Subject: Re: 1581 problems
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 1994 02:37:33 GMT

David Belter ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I can't get StereoPlayer 10.3 to run from my FD2000 even in '81 emulation
: mode :(

Hunh?? What would allow Stereoplayer 10.3 to run from my RAMLink, in
either 1541 or 1571 emulations, but not from your FD 2000? Hmmmmmmmm...

[e-mail]


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From:    [e-mail] (Nhat-Viet Phi)
Subject: Re: 1581 problems
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 1994 02:44:40 GMT

David Belter ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I have NEVER gotten a Heavly protected game to work on my FD2000!

I am not surprised. Why are you?

: The only program that I would like to run off my FD and can't, is Knights of
: Legend by Origin.  Even though it doesn't seem to have a FastLoader or ANY
copy
: protection (even says that in the docs!)

The lack of a fastloader is not the only hurdle in transferring between
different devices. Remember that many games use special routines that
directly access the ROM of a true 1541, thus making them incompatible
with "1541-compatibles" or even 1571's. WHETHER OR NOT THE TITLE IS
"COPY-PROTECTED".

Thus, the lack of copy-protection does NOT ensure that a program will run
on your CMD device.

[e-mail]


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From:    [e-mail] (George Taylor)
Subject: Re: 3d graphics
Date:    9 Jul 1994 16:35:05 GMT

Stephen Judd writes
I have thought long
> and hard about it, and not done quite a lot of work that I was
> supposed to do, but by golly I can now draw a line in about
> 28 cycles per pixel (with a huge amount of overhead; with a very
> small amount of overhead I can now draw a line at 30 cycles per
> pixel (I think the average works out to less than 31 cycles)).
>
> I think I've squeezed every bit of juice out of my routine that is
> possible, but... who knows?
Hazhahha I beat your routine!
Try 16 to 29 cycles per line point!
The fastest speed occurs in thos quadtants where X>y.
And my code is not even unrolled...
I can't remember your line formula tho, so I had to reinvent it.  I hope
this is right:
parameter based line..
x=a/dy *dx
with dx<dy, and a=0 to dy.
So use x as the integer part and a as the remainder.
so do
a=a+dy:y=y+1:if a>dx then a=a-dx:x=x+1
until x=x2
On the last iteration, x will equal x2, and a will be 0.
This suggests a stopping condition.
Oops.. looks like I got mail from you.
Later


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From:    [e-mail] (Emerick Rogul)
Subject: buying joystick for commodore
Date:    10 Jul 1994 20:26:54 GMT


if i were to buy a new joystick (say, one made for a PC), could i use
it with my commodore 64?  why or why not?  i figured that i could, but
thought perhaps i should check here first.  any recommendations for
joysticks that will work?  thanks...

-emerick
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From:    Jim Stephenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: buying joystick for commodore
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 94 02:09:16 -0500

Emerick Rogul <[e-mail]> writes:

>if i were to buy a new joystick (say, one made for a PC), could i use
>it with my commodore 64?  why or why not?  i figured that i could, but

The answer is no, you cannot use joysticks from an PC (or an Apple) on your
Commodore.  The PC joysticks are analog, meaning that as you move the stick
along each axis, the resistance of the joystick along that access is changing.
In the Apple ][+, the resistance was hooked up to a relaxation oscillator (a
555, I think) and a counter was started each time you wanted to read the
joystick.  When the oscillator signal came to rest, the count in the counter
gave an indication of the position of the stick.  Why did I bore you with this,
you might ask?  Well, I think PCs do it the same way, sorta kinda, and I was in
the mood to babble.  Anyway, Commodore joysticks are digital.  When you push
the stick in a certain direction, a switch is closed.  There are only four
switches - not counting triggers and firing buttons - and the arrangement only
allows two switches to be closed at any one time, which means the computer can
only interprit eight directions total, and have to use the direction info to
plot the new position based on the old position (hmmm ... when I say position
here I mean on the screen, or in space).  Digital joysticks basically give you
vector information.  Analog joysticks give you position information.

Now you know more than you ever wanted to know about the subject.  Enjoy.

Jimbo


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From:    [e-mail] (Kenny Kant)
Subject: C64 for Sale
Date:    10 Jul 1994 23:55:31 -0400


  the 1581 has been sold .. but I still have the c64 ... Again the
joystick ports do not work .. .. but the rest of the computer works
great .. Make an offer ..
Thanx


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From:    [e-mail]
Subject: C64 Overheat Crash!!!
Date:    Sat, 9 Jul 94 23:15:30 -0500

Why does my C64 get so hot????

My C64 wont last 30 minutes now because for some strange reason its geting
overheated somehow! Listen, I've got the PC-board out in open air,
I have artifical(aluminum foil)heat sinks on the 6510, SID, and 6567
box/meta/chip thing/conglomerate, I've got an AMTRAK medal on top of
that "hot node" thing near the lower right hand corner, and the thing
still locks up after 5 to 30 minutes!!!!

Is my C64 being fed too much juice into it's system or something?
I felt one of the "hot nodes" on it, and almost burnt my finger!
I'm telling you, the thing is hot!

BTW, does it matter if it's 10 years old?<just wondering?>

Can someone please tell me why this is happening, and how I can fix it?

Jason
([e-mail])


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From:    [e-mail] ([e-mail] (CRAIG TAYLOR))
Subject: C= Hacking MailServer FileList / Update
Date:    10 Jul 94 14:31:10 EDT

I'm posting this catalog list for use in my mailserver as I've updated and
redone the format of it slightly and added lots of files that should be of
interest to the people on the net. Instead of posting the mailserver
documentation seperately it will be appended to the end of this message. If you
don't know what C= Hacking is then it's a free internet-based magazine that is
geared specifically to C= 8-bit programming of trying to push the C='s to their
limit. The 8th issue is due to be released late this month or at the first of
next month.

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Catalog List - Last update July 10th, 1994.
==============================================================================
Files added since the start of the month are indicated with a +.
Files that need to be requested via the command "psend" instead of send
  are indicated by a *.

   iss1.       - C= Hacking, Issue #1
   iss2.       - C= Hacking, Issue #2
   iss3.       - C= Hacking, Issue #3
   iss4.       - C= Hacking, Issue #4
   iss5.       - C= Hacking, Issue #5
   iss6.       - C= Hacking, Issue #6
   iss7.       - C= Hacking, Issue #7

 * invasion1.sfx        - Space Invasion Source (Starting with Issue 4)
 * vdc-bg.sfx       - Use of 64K VDC RAM in Geos (Issue #3)
 * lrr.sfx          - Little Red Reader (from C= Hacking #4)

  mailserv.012493       - VAX/DCL Mailserver .share file

--- Emulation

 * c64.zip          - C64 Emulator for IBM
+* c64s09c.exe      - Commodore 64 Emulator for IBM
+* c64s_arc.zip          - Manage .d64 and .t64 files for c64s09c.exe
+* copy2d64.zip          - Copies files into .d64 format for c64s09c.exe
+* roms.zip         - Roms necessary for use with emulators (see note 1)
+* d64utils.zip          - Utilities for .d64 files


--- FAQ's (Frequently asked questions)

   cbm1.faq         - Commodore General FAQ - v2.0
   cbm2.faq         - 2nd part of C= General FAQ v2.0
   cbm_ftpsites0794.txt  - Listing of Commodore FTP sites available.
   submit.binaries  - Details on submitting articles to Comp.Binaries.CBM
   cbm.emulation         - Commodore 64 Emulation FAQ
   bbs.list         - List of Commodore bbs's (April 1, 1994)
   cbbs.txt         - Another list of Commodore bbs's (Graveyard List)
   info64.txt       - List of Commodore resources available on InterNet
   users.txt        - List of Commodore users on the InterNet
   cbm.machines          - List of Commodore Machines ever made.

--- Other files

 * zed-128.077      - Text Editor for C=128
 * zed-128.doc
 * sal64.sda        - Symbolic Assembly Language - w/ ML tutor and docs.
 * mightymon-128.401     - ML Monitor for C=128 - Vastly extended over native
mon
 * mightymon-128.doc     - Documentation for above.
 * ace-r10-1.sfx    - Operating System: ACE by Craig Bruce (file 1/2)
 * ace-r10-2.sfx         -                          (file 2/2)

+  stereo.sid       - Instructions on adding a 2nd Sound Chip
+  secrets.txt      - Secret Messages w/in C= Computers
+  1750to2mb.txt    - Doc's on upgrading a 1750 reu to 2 Megs.
+  1764to512k.txt   - Doc's on upgrading a 1764 to 512k.

--- Trivia Files:

   trivia1a         - December '93 Trivia about Commodore
   trivia2a         - January '94 Trivia
   trivia3a         - February '94 Trivia
   trivia4a         - March '94 Trivia
   trivia5q         - Current Trivia Questions

NOTE 1: I've included this file which contains images of the copyrighted code
in the COMMODORE 64 thereby violating copyright law. I do this because 1) I
doubt Commodore (now defunct will object), 2) I doubt the future owner of
Commodore will object, 3) Commodore 64's are no longer being produced, and 4)
Hold little or no value for the future Commodore owner. In the event that the
owner does hold objections to my carrying the images I will gladly remove them
at their request. (I have no money to sue for so....)
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MAILSERVER DOCUMENTATION

What is a mail-server?

   A mailserver is an automated job that will scan my mail file for messages
   with a subject line of "MAILSERV" and will then automatically carry out
   certain operations within the body of the mail message. This makes it easier
   on me and you. Easier for me so that I don't have to deal with 50+ messages
   each month asking for files to be sent out and also insures that your files
   that you requested will be sent within 24 hours. In addition it allows
   files to be more easily sent and accessed in case you are not able to
   extract the source files from C= Hacking.

How to use the mail-server / What it is.

   This mail-server is intended to help me keep track / more easily update my
   mailing list of individuals who wish to sub-scribe or get back-issues of
   C= Hacking mailed to them.

   To use it simply send a message to "[e-mail]" (me) with a
   subject line of "MAILSERV" and then with one of the following commands in the
   body of the mail message:

Currently the following commands are supported:

  help              - sends current documentation f file list
  send iss<number>. - sends issue # (1-6 currently). Remember the period!!
  subscribe         - subscribe to the mailing list automatically
  catalog           - show list of available source /uuencoded binaries
  send name        - send ascii file
  psend name        - send uuencoded binary.

Please note that the mailserver is only run at 2:00 AM and 2:00 PM EST.

Catalog List - Last update April 25th, 1994.

The catalog list is no longer going to be carried in the documentation due to
how frequently it's updated. As such, if you wish to obtain a list of files
currently available please send a mailserver command of "catalog" (as discussed
within) to the mailserver.

Snail-Mail Alternatives

 For those of you who wish to obtain C= Hacking via regular mail please send
 $5.00 for a 3 1/2 disk in CBM format for all 7 issues currently available.
 Since I'm working on the "I'll do it when I get around to it" method please
 allow at least 3-8 weeks before delivery (it should be much sooner
 typically). Please note that if you and a friend both want a copy of the
 disk, just buy one disk and copy it - I'm just charging for my time and the
 disk - not for the magazine. The magazine is "free". I can be reached at the
 following:

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  Rt 2 Apt 1 College Court
  Pembroke, NC 28372

  My internet email address is : [e-mail]
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From:    [e-mail] (Lincard 1000)
Subject: Re: CMD HD prob solved <?>
Date:    Sun, 10 Jul 94 16:15:35 +1200

[e-mail] (Gunther Birznieks) writes:
> But the problem is not in my software.  The problem is in your
> hardware.   There is no BBS author who will support faulty hardware.
>
> It should be relatively inexpensive for you to get the latest CMD
> HD-DOS from a distributer of CMD stuff in Australia -- It is also
> available for download from CMD's BBS in the US.  It is also
> available, I am sure, for a nominal shipping and handling charge
> direct from CMD.

WHY was there no mention of the fact that there could be problems with
some of the older equipment in the manual? You say you sent me the latest
version, does this not include an updated version of the manual also?
C'mon Gunther... YOU were the one who pursuaded me to buy the software in
preference to the 128 version in the first place! WHY also was there no
mention that running the software in the first partition of a HD could
cause problems also?

Am I being unfair with these questions?

Just as an aside, would you resent some suggestions for inclusion in
future manuals that cover some of these things, so that future CB sysops
wont have the same drama that Ive had??

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From:    [e-mail] (Ninstar Cybermage: Black Phoenix Rising)
Subject: commodore software and games for sale
Date:    Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:12:00 GMT

Hey guys!  Yet another person selling his commodore stuff. I hope some of you
like what I've got here. I've got lots of it.  Those of you looking for books
or cartridges will find stuff at the bottom.
All prices are as listed or best offer.  Buyer pays postage.
All are original disks, with manuals as indicated, and are for the commodore
C64 computer.

Productivity Software first:
Program        Manufacturer   Manuals(Y/N)   Price
Basic Compiler Abacus         Y         $15.00
Power C         Betterworking   Y               $10.00
Commodore Assembler 64        Y         $10.00
Paperclip Pub. Batteries Incl.     Y         $10.00
Word Writer 5  Timeworks Y         $15.00(includes extra graphics
                                   and font Libraries)
The Newsroom   Springboard    Y         $10.00
The Writer/filerBetter Working     Y         $ 7.00
/Planner pkg
Swift Desktop  Celery Software     Y         $ 2.00
Publishing
Print Power    Hi Tech Exp.   Y         $ 5.00
SesameStreet   Hi Tech Exp    Y         $ 5.00
     Print Kit
Award Ware     Hi Tech Exp.   Y         $ 5.00
Party Ware     Hi Tech Exp.   N         $ 5.00
The Musician   Melody Hall    Y         $ 5.00
The Artist     Melody Hall    Y         $ 5.00
Arcade Game    Broderbund     Y         $10.00
     Construction Kit
Adventure Electronic Arts     Y         $10.00
     Construction Set
AdventureCreator UXB          Y         $ 5.00

Games:
Program        Manufacturer   Manuals(Y/N)   Price
Starglider     Rainbird  Y(minus Novel) $10.00 somehow when I was
Space Rogue    Origin         Y(minus Novel) $10.00 moving.)
RedStormRising MicroProse     Y(minus novel) $10.00 (not version w/novel)
Temple Apshai  Epyx      Y         $ 5.00
Strike Fleet   Electronic Arts     Y         $10.00
Mercenary DataSoft  Y         $ 5.00
Clue Master Det     Liesure Genius Y         $ 5.00
DragonStrike   SSI       Y         $10.00
Modem Wars     Electronic Arts     Y         $ 5.00
Jet Combat Sim Epyx      Y         $ 5.00
GemstoneWarrior     Epyx      Y         $ 5.00
Kung-Fu Master/     ?         N         $ 5.00
Karate Champ
Death Sword    Epyx      N         $ 5.00
Eliminator     Hewson         N         $ 5.00
Axe Of Rage    Epyx      Y         $ 7.00
Fist:The Legend     MindScape Y         $ 7.00
Star Wars Arc. Broderbund     N         $ 5.00
Scrabble  Leisure Genius N         $ 7.00
Bad Dudes       Data East       N               $ 5.00
Uchi Mata(Judo)     Mindscape Partial        $ 5.00
Chop N'Drop    Activision     N         $ 5.00
World Karate Ch     Epyx      N         $ 5.00
Strider        Capcom         N         $ 5.00
Trailblazer    Mindscape Partial        $ 5.00
Gauntlet  Mindscape N         $ 5.00
DragonWorld    Telarium  Y         $ 7.00
Rolling Thunder     Tengen         N         $ 5.00
Sky Shark Taito          N         $ 5.00
Delta Patrol   Electronic Arts     N         $ 5.00
Life Force     Konami         N         $ 5.00
Gradius        Konami         Y         $ 5.00
Pitfall/Dem Att     Solid Gold     N         $ 5.00
Metro Cross    Epyx      N         $ 5.00
Top Gun        ThunderMountain     Y         $ 5.00
The Last Ninja Activision     Partial        $10.00
ProjectFirestartElectronic arts    Y         $10.00
Paradroid ThunderMountain N        $ 5.00
After Burner   Sega      N         $ 5.00
Shinobi        Sega      N         $ 5.00
Kid Niki Ninja Data East Y         $ 5.00
Shackled  Data East Y         $ 5.00
Crossfire Sierra Online  N         $ 2.00
Wing Commander/ MasterTronic  Y         $ 5.00
Sky Jet
Knight Games   Mastertronic   Y         $ 5.00
Wizards Feud   Mastertronic   Y         $ 5.00
Dark Tower     Spinnaker N         $ 2.00
BreakThru Data East N         $ 2.00
Plasmatron     Avantage  N         $ 2.00
Implosion ThunderMountain     N         $ 2.00
Z-Pilot        UXB       N         $ 2.00
Storm          Mastertronic   Y         $ 5.00
Electraglide   MasterTronic   N         $ 3.00
Ninja          Mastertronic   N         $ 2.00
Twin Kingdom   Tri-Micro Y         $ 2.00
Valley/Corom
UFO/GalaxyBirds     FireBird  N         $ 2.00
Escape         FireBird  N         $ 2.00
Willow Pattern/     Firebird  N         $ 2.00
Happiest Days
Zolyx/Caverns  Firebird  N         $ 2.00
of Eriban
Ollie&Lyssa    Firebird  N         $ 2.00
Mad Nurse
Harvey Headbang Firebird N         $ 2.00
/Booty
Microrythm/    Firebird  N         $ 2.00
Freak Factory
Gogo the ghost/     Firebird  N         $ 2.00
Collapse
Megaplay Vol1  Mastertronic   Y         $ 5.00
Adventure Quest     Keypunch  N         $ 2.00

Cartridge:
Simon's Basic  Commodore Y         $10.00

Books:
Assembly Language Programming on the Commodore64$ 5.00



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From:    Jim Stephenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Communication software for C128
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 94 02:17:16 -0500

Gary R. Reents <[e-mail]> writes:

>What is the best communications software package that can be used by a
>C128 in 80 col mode? One that can do a passable VT100 emulation is

I unhesitatingly recommend Dialogue 128.  It has VT-102 emulation, and is very
stable.  Another good package would be Desterm.  I don't think it's quite as
stable as Dialogue, but it is shareware, so you can try it out first.  Someone
else will have to tell you where to get the newest Desterm (v2.01 or something
like that), but Dialogue is available from CMD (800-638-3263, $29.00 plus
shipping).

Jimbo


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From:    [e-mail] (Gary R. Reents)
Subject: Communication software for C128
Date:    11 Jul 1994 00:18:50 GMT


I'm looking for some information concerning communications software.
What is the best communications software package that can be used by a
C128 in 80 col mode? One that can do a passable VT100 emulation is
desirable. My nephew has recently purchased a C128 and is beginning to
surf. He needs something with 80 columns for many of the gopher
programs.

Gary Reents     [e-mail]
                [e-mail]
                [e-mail]

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From:    [e-mail] (Ismael Cordeiro)
Subject: Re: Communication software for C128
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 1994 03:29:22 GMT

Gary R. Reents ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I'm looking for some information concerning communications software.
> What is the best communications software package that can be used by a
> C128 in 80 col mode? One that can do a passable VT100 emulation is
> desirable.

Desterm 2.00 is an excellent communications program for the C128 and its
VT102 emulation is also excellent. You can get it from oak.oakland.edu,
directory /pub/cbm/ or nic.funet.fi, directory pub/cbm/.

Ismael

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From:    [e-mail] (Jason Compton)
Subject: Re: computer humor
Date:    8 Jul 94 17:03:44 CST

[e-mail] (Jean P Nance) writes:

>
>I, too, rolled over laughing the first time I read the fake
>German directions for watching the computer. It was the identical
>wording, and it must have been 25 years ago, long before personal
>computers. Its still funny! Actually, now we an even turn 4 years
>olds loose with our precious computers, and not require they stand
>back and keep their hands in their pockets. Computer technology
>marches on!
>--
>
>p

...and legions of Americans march to Best Buys to get Packard Bells and
Quadras, then sit and look at them, afraid to take their hands out of their
pockets...

Navigator and At-Ease:  The Saddest Statements of Technology in the Nineties.

Jason Compton                                       [e-mail]
Emulation Editor                                    Amiga Report Magazine
Editor-In-Chief                                     Amiga Report Coverdisk
Chief Executive Officer                             DigiForte Designs, Ltd.
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From:    [e-mail] (JIM HUTCHISON)
Subject: CONFIG
Date:    Sat, 09 Jul 1994 21:57:26
ADD 93


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From:    [e-mail] (Tarragon Moon)
Subject: Constructing a NULL-Modem cable to C64
Date:    08 Jul 94 12:45:00 +1000

Hi Judd,

 >>) I was staring at the pinouts for the user port, and I was wondering if
 >>) it is possible to fudge a NULL-modem cable.  On the Amiga the relevant
 >>) pin assignments are:
 >>
 >>) Would this do what I want it to do, or would it instead generate large
 >>) amounts of smoke and flame?
 >>
 >>Neither, I believe.  Assuming you have the correct pins on the 128 (or
 >>64, for that matter), you still have to get the voltages straight.

I friend of mine once made a direct null-modem cable for C64<>Amiga by
connecting the user port directly to the chip inside the amiga... cheap and
nasty, but it worked.

Tarragon/Menace


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From:    [e-mail] (Roderick Greening)
Subject: cp/m mode for c128
Date:    10 Jul 1994 14:48:16 GMT

anyone use cp/m for the c128? I just recently got a c128 and wish to use
this mode. The problem is getting software for it. I only have one drive
at the moment, and it seems like i cannot get anythhing onto a cp/m disk
without 2 drives. Anyone know how I could get some software with only
one drive? Is it possible to use zipcode to zip a cp/m disk? Then maybe
I could get someone to zip a cp/m disk with a terminal package on it and
the newsys.com (updated for modem transfers).

Any suggestions (besides get a second drive :>  Already looking ;) ).

Thanks...
--
Rod.
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From:    [e-mail] (Jonathan Mines)
Subject: Re: DEMO ZAKS TO PC/MOD
Date:    Sat, 9 Jul 1994 14:58:16 GMT

Its been done on the Amiga - called SIDPlay - at verion 2.2 I believe.

By the way - the MOD format originated on the Amiga.

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  <X> Internet address:  [e-mail]       producer for C=64/C=128! <X>
  <X> Mail:  Threshold Productions  / 18801 26th NE /  Seattle, WA. 98155 <X>
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From:    [e-mail] (David Tze-Si Wu)
Subject: Re: DEMO ZAKS TO PC/MOD
Date:    9 Jul 1994 23:43:34 GMT

Jonathan Mines ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Its been done on the Amiga - called SIDPlay - at verion 2.2 I believe.

: By the way - the MOD format originated on the Amiga.

Look under /pub/demo/music of the demo sites (wasp.eng.ufl.edu). I have a
few files of converted C64 music. Lots of Gray, Huelsbeck (sp?), Hubbard,
and Galway stuff. Someone wrote an emulator or wrote a driver to play the
music on the PC. Was a real treat to hear old favorites on my new
machine. Definitely worth the download.

Guardian/ex.....


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From:    [e-mail] (Ismael Cordeiro)
Subject: Re: DesTerm 2.01 & Zmodem?
Date:    Mon, 11 Jul 1994 03:32:45 GMT

Tim Jump ([e-mail]) wrote:
> With the new way protocols are loaded into DesTerm 2.01, is anybody
> working on a Zmodem send/receive *.dpr for it?

> I mean, if the 64'ers can have Zmodem receive on Novaterm, we should be
> able to get at LEAST that for DesTerm, shouldn't we?

If it is for having a slower than Ymodem transfer speed, as in Novaterm, I
don't see why having it in Desterm. If a true Zmodem could be implemented,
it would be very welcome.

Ismael
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From:    [e-mail] (Tim Jump)
Subject: DesTerm 2.01 & Zmodem?
Date:    10 Jul 1994 13:21:24 -0400

With the new way protocols are loaded into DesTerm 2.01, is anybody
working on a Zmodem send/receive *.dpr for it?

I mean, if the 64'ers can have Zmodem receive on Novaterm, we should be
able to get at LEAST that for DesTerm, shouldn't we?

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From:    [e-mail] (Maxwell Daymon)
Subject: Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
Date:    10 Jul 1994 17:30:44 GMT

John Kaiser ([e-mail]) wrote:
: So far as I've noticed, the entire Emulator "society" relies virtually
: entirely on pirated software. I don't think I've come across one post
: from anyone wanting to know how to put some of the old games they've no
: doubt had sitting on the floor of the closet into their emulated-C=. Case
: in point, the endless: "...will someone please upload MULE, Impossible
: Mission, Donkey Kong, (ad nauseam, ad infinitum) to Watson..."

Many A64 users (like myself) hook up a 1541 drive (A64 does not support
"image" files) and use them.

I KNOW I'm not speaking for the majority of A64 users (I don't think).
But I LOVE to have the original software - ESPECIALLY Infocom. All the
neat little toys and maps and stuff. I have the C64 "Plundered Hearts"
and it even came with a little baggy with stuff.

I admit I'm not too quick to buy a generic disk with a photcopied
manual, but I put all my original boxes on the shelf to proudly display,
and original disks go into a nice acryllic folder so that I can admire
and protect the labels. Go ahead and call me a stupid moron for enjoying
"original" and especially "mint condition" software - everyone else does. :-)

The main problem with the C64 software is that other than a few mail
order companies, software is very hard to find. :-(

: Besides, if the lamer pukes running the emulator want my ware so damn bad
: they can get off their ass and get a real C=...

I have two C64's but I still enjoy my emulator quite a bit. One aspect of
the C64 that bothered me so much was the disk loading times. My emulator
supports the hard drive for almost instantaneous loading, memory
"snapshot" support, and pre-conversion of code. I don't really appriciate
being called a lamer because I like to use an augmented system with
good disk I/O performance (disk I/O speed was one of the C64's worst
shortcomings.)

--
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From:    [e-mail] (Gary P. Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
Date:    9 Jul 1994 19:45:56 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, John Kaiser <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <2vfmhb$[e-mail]>,
>Gary P. Wolfe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>In article <[e-mail]>, John Kaiser <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Coolness... I finally have the method I was looking for to ensure that
>>>anything I write will be absolutely unusable on emulators...
>>>
>>>Buhahahahaha...
>>>
>>
>>That is...well...stupid!  Why would you want to exclude yourself
>>from any posible shareware profits or anything of the like?  People
>>with emulators of any quality at least would probably be more inclined
>>to register your product, if it was decent anyway.  If you weren't or
>>didn't make it shareware what do you have to gain, except infamy, by
>>making it not work on an emulated 64?
>
>That was originally mostly a anti-emulator joke... but since you want to
>talk about it, let me explain the logic behind the non-joke aspect of it.
>
>If I finally finish any of the softwares I'm working on, and eventually
>do market them, since they are written for C=, they will most definately
>be sold on C= type disks, to be used in C= type drives, because obviously
>my target market are C= users/enthusiasts.
>
>So far as I've noticed, the entire Emulator "society" relies virtually
>entirely on pirated software. I don't think I've come across one post
>from anyone wanting to know how to put some of the old games they've no
>doubt had sitting on the floor of the closet into their emulated-C=. Case
>in point, the endless: "...will someone please upload MULE, Impossible
>Mission, Donkey Kong, (ad nauseam, ad infinitum) to Watson..."
>

Ok, I understand this, but you are wrong when you collectively alienate
the "entire Emulator 'society'" as on the Amiga there exists a product
called the A64 Package which has a hardware adapter for the parallel
port so as to be able to plug C64 devices such as printers and disk
drives like the 1541,1541II,FSD-I/II,Enhancer (shittiest drive ever
made), and the 1581 if you so desired it.  The emulator works just
great and can even run Ultima I-V which I had purchase all new when
they came out.  I even haved Exodus and Temple of Apshai on tape for
my C64 tape drive from the days before I could afford a real disk drive.

So, I would, then, have access to commodore type medium and could then
run loads of stuff EMULATED on my Amiga 4000/040 all the while utilizing
2 1541 drives.


>Working from the above conclusion, for a emulator to be running my
>software, they would of had to obtain it from another source than myself,
>since as I stated above, my software will most definitely be provided
>solely on C= type media.
>

Not completely true...see above.

>Therefore, like all forms of copy protection, my interests and concerns
>are indeed valid, and logical, and in this aspect, at least a little bit
>effective.

at least until someone gets pissed enough and decides to break it
and then distribute it just because it was overly anal.

>Besides, if the lamer pukes running the emulator want my ware so damn bad
>they can get off their ass and get a real C=...

Most of the stuff you said above has, at least, some merrit.  This,
however, I don't see any.  I have a C64, tape drive, 2 1541s, a
Star GX printer, and a 1084S color monitor.  Most of that is put
away in storage.  The only reason I have taken the C64 out for was
so that I could run the little program so save the C64 ROM image
to disk to therefore make my "emulated" c64 for all intents and
purposes a "real" C64.  I have the drives out all the time as I
use the emulator quite a bit, especially for the games that allow
you to copy from the 5.25 medium to my Amiga's hard drive. Ultima
V allows this whereas the other don't.  When a program loads almost
instantly, it makes things a bit more fun, but I digress...  So I
have all this stuff and an emulator and only 1 DESK!  Why would
I want to go from an Amiga to a 64 having to switch locations and
find the disk I think I might wish to play with for an hour or two,
when I can simply open a directory double click on an icon wait
10 seconds then type load "$",8 and then type list and see the
equivalent of about 50 64 programs scroll away and load any one
of those in the blink of an eye, play it, and when I am done
either close it or just switch screens?  Why?  The whole point
of an emulator is so you don't have to have your old computer
set up taking valuable space, when you just play an occasional
game or 2 every other month, if that frequently.  When it is on
the old hard drive, if you forget about it for a couple of years
and decide to use it there it is.

Anyway use some other sort of copy protection so as to keep the
program on the disk and unable to be "file-ized??"  Take Ultima
IV for instance, do a directory on like the dungeon disk, and list
it and you will see nothing!  Everything is still there, it is
just not "file-ized."  Ultima IV uses direct track and sector reads
when fetching information although you can put the wrong disk in
anytime you want for strange and varied results...fun...you could
conceivably make your own world with diskdoctor and a blank disk
after you have mapped out what each byte means to Ultima IV or you
could do what Ultima III did to its save disk....you just cannot
read it, gives you file I/O errors.  Or have one visible file and
hide all the rest....that is by far the easiest....you could
use diskdoctor for that, but someone else could use diskdoctor to
undo it as well.  But don't do the "Detect emulator and print
some offensive message and exit" thing, please.  You would still
have to address piracy within the C64 realm anyway.  One of the
above methods addresses both forms.

Later,

Gary Wolfe
[e-mail]
Amiga, NeXT Color Station, C64, Atari 2600, Colleco Vision,
Timex Sinclair 1000, and Merlin.


--
"I was crazy once...They put me in a little white room...I loved that room...I
died in that room...When they buried me they put little white flowers on my
grave that tickled my nose and drove me crazy...CRAZY I tell you...I was crazy
once!"


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From:    [e-mail] (John Kaiser)
Subject: Re: Detecting Emulators (BASIC)
Date:    Sat, 9 Jul 1994 07:01:47 GMT

In article <2vfmhb$[e-mail]>,
Gary P. Wolfe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, John Kaiser <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>Coolness... I finally have the method I was looking for to ensure that
>>anything I write will be absolutely unusable on emulators...
>>
>>Buhahahahaha...
>>
>
>That is...well...stupid!  Why would you want to exclude yourself
>from any posible shareware profits or anything of the like?  People
>with emulators of any quality at least would probably be more inclined
>to register your product, if it was decent anyway.  If you weren't or
>didn't make it shareware what do you have to gain, except infamy, by
>making it not work on an emulated 64?

That was originally mostly a anti-emulator joke... but since you want to
talk about it, let me explain the logic behind the non-joke aspect of it.

If I finally finish any of the softwares I'm working on, and eventually
do market them, since they are written for C=, they will most definately
be sold on C= type disks, to be used in C= type drives, because obviously
my target market are C= users/enthusiasts.

So far as I've noticed, the entire Emulator "society" relies virtually
entirely on pirated software. I don't think I've come across one post
from anyone wanting to know how to put some of the old games they've no
doubt had sitting on the floor of the closet into their emulated-C=. Case
in point, the endless: "...will someone please upload MULE, Impossible
Mission, Donkey Kong, (ad nauseam, ad infinitum) to Watson..."

Working from the above conclusion, for a emulator to be running my
software, they would of had to obtain it from another source than myself,
since as I stated above, my software will most definitely be provided
solely on C= type media.

Therefore, like all forms of copy protection, my interests and concerns
are indeed valid, and logical, and in this aspect, at least a little bit
effective.

Besides, if the lamer pukes running the emulator want my ware so damn bad
they can get off their ass and get a real C=...


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From:    [e-mail] (Mike Vandenberg)
Subject: Re: Disk Recovery and Fast hack'em...
Date:    9 Jul 1994 08:26:55 -0400

In article <[e-mail]>,
Pontus Berg <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Howdy hackers!
>
>Anyone with suggestions on the BEST program to correct disks? I have a disk
>copied onto a HD disk (making it REALLy hard for the drive to read properly).
>I want a copy of the contents. I need a program that reads until it's sure it
>got everything right, even if that means reading 100 times...
>
>Open for suggestions!

What I would suggest you do is read it SECTOR by SECTOR and record the Track
and Sector links onto a peice of paper so that you know the correct path. This
you use to recreate the program.

Copy all those sectors that DO NOT generate an error.

Set them up EXACTLY where they would be on a diskette leaving the error tracks
blank.

One by one, with a sector reader program, copy off each error sector one at a
time, and record it onto the diskette in its proper place.

Thats all you have to do. Simple read a sector until it returns NO ERROR and
copy it.

I am working on something like this right now, only it'd be for 1541s and
1571s alone since I dont have access to much else.


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From:    [e-mail] (george page)
Subject: Re: Disk Recovery and Fast hack'em...
Date:    9 Jul 1994 12:53:53 -0600

Another possible approach might be to use that option on Zipcode 2 that
lets you copy files (and maybe indivdual blocks(?don't remember) and
write them whereever you want on the destination disk. Or I think there
some other error recovery routine on there, too. Just random thoughts...

--
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Aurora (Denver) Colorado USA. [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From:    [e-mail] (John Kaiser)
Subject: File List Maintining - DCMR RULES
Date:    Sat, 9 Jul 1994 07:11:57 GMT

Subject says it all for this response...


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From:    Daryl King <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: File List Maintining Program
Date:    Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:26:35 -0500
I does look like DCMR and it is available I know on GEnie, Delphi, and
Q-Link. Six column output is available depending on what type of printer
you have. up to 2100 filenames can be stored in it. Very good and highly
recommended.
                                                            Deltar :)


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