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************ Topic 3 Fri Oct 26, 1990 D.RAY1 at 01:41 EDT Sub: Aprotek inimodem C24 Enter your experiences with this Commodore compatible 2400 baud modem here. 66 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 1 Fri Oct 26, 1990 D.RAY1 at 01:48 EDT I bought one of these C24 modems after reading the mostly favorable review in Twin Cities 128. After one day of use it seems to work fine. The negatives mentioned in the review have proved to be minimal. There was a patch on the disk included with the modem that fixed the problem of working with the software for Q-Link. And the defaults all work fine for here on GEnie, so that fact that there is no non-volitile memory is not an inconvenience for me. The most annoying thing for me about the modem is that the speaker really stinks. If you buy this modem and are a BobsTerm 128 user try setting the lo-byte adjustment to 120. At the default setting of 113 the screen didn't have any garbage, but when I captured a bunch of text in the buffer there was a lot of strange looking stuff in there. I will enter any other discoveries I make here. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 2 Sun Nov 11, 1990 J.KARN at 11:55 EST I have been using the Aprotek Minimodem-C24 very successfully on my C-128 with BobsTerm 128. As D.Ray suggests, I've found it best to tweak the RS232 Lo Byte Baud Adjust rate upward from the default value of 113 to 115. Most of the advice I've seen suggests tweaking it in the opposite direction. It also seems to be advisable to toggle the transfer display off with C=/D. With these settings, I've had no difficulty with standard Xmodem file transfers. One thing I have noticed is that although I do see about a 100% improvement in download speed at 2400 baud when logged on to a local BBS, I'm only obtaining about a 50% improvement when logged onto GEnie. I presume this is due to the time-sharing nature of GEnie's more heavily used system. Of course, this leads one to the wry conclusion that my $80 expenditure has reduced my costs for downloading from GEnie by about 30%, while reducing GEnie's cost of serving me by about 50%. Sure was nice of me. J.Karn ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 3 Mon Dec 31, 1990 T.BRISSETTE at 23:47 CST I have just switched to this modem too, and I like it a lot. Except when using Common Sense ( I have others, including Wizard, but I still like this better :D), the last 200 lines of the virtual screen fill up with garbage and can't be removed. The 1670 modem I have didn't do this. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 4 Tue Jan 01, 1991 C128-BILL [Bill] at 16:58 EST I wonder if tweaking your Baud Rate Factor might help, T.B. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 5 Wed Jan 02, 1991 E.DURKIN1 [Montana Kid] at 14:37 MST I have the Minimodem - C >12< 1200 baud modem. I opened it up and noticed that the chip on the board looks removable. Would changing this chip with one from a C24 make it a 2400 baud modem?? ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 6 Wed Jan 02, 1991 D.RAY1 at 23:26 EST Montana Kid, you are way over my head with that question, although I kind of doubt that changing one chip would turn the Minimodem 12 into a Minimodem 24. The people to ask are Aprotek. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 7 Mon Jan 07, 1991 M.VIGNOLA at 22:47 EST Is this Modem compatable with Desterm 128 Version 2.0 Any info greatly appreciated. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 8 Tue Jan 08, 1991 D.RAY1 at 01:42 EST The MiniModem C24 works fine with DesTerm 128 V2. In fact that is what I am using. Here is the modem init string I use: AT X4 S11=75 S7=30 L3. I get excellent transfers using Xmodem1k and Ymodem batch. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 9 Thu Jan 10, 1991 C.MCPHERSON2 at 19:40 CST As Dale knows, the C-24 works beautifully with the Plus/4. You have to use the command "at&c0" to force the carrier detect on. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 10 Sat Jan 12, 1991 M.VIGNOLA at 01:13 EST It arrived today, and it works great here on Genie. Thanks for the info on INIT setting with the use of Desterm 128. I appreciate the help ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 11 Fri Mar 08, 1991 DALE-RAY at 01:30 EST About two weeks age my C24 died. I called the Aprotek people for a return authorization and after explaining in detail the symptoms/problems got one. Sent the modem to them via UPS ground on 2/20/91. Received it back in working order on 3/7/91 and they sent me an updated version of the manual. All in all, pretty good service. Just thought others who have this modem might want to know of this experience. BTW, a quick look at the new manual shows no significant changes from the old one. If you look at the back cover the manual version is in the lower left hand corner. I had version C, they sent me version E. I will check further to see if any info was updated and report here. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 12 Fri Mar 08, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 08:29 EST On the subject of "vital" computer equipment dying, if you make a major purchase of computer hardware that you absolutely cannot do without for more than a day then it is always best to have a UPS call tag sent with your order for quicker turnaround on replacement. Usually the deal goes they ship you a new whatever and when you recieve it you ship back the defective one. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 13 Fri Apr 05, 1991 G.HILL15 at 22:42 CST I have had my Minimodem-2400 for about a month now. I have noticed with mine that the speakerr volume is very low . And the modem never recognizes when there is a busy signal. Other than that, Ihaven't had much trouble with it. I wonder though if any of you use your minimodem with Novaterm? If so, maybe you can give me an idea of how to fine tune the baud rate. I do get a good deal of noise at 2400. 1200 baud works fine. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 14 Sat Apr 06, 1991 DALE-RAY at 09:21 EST If you enter the atl3 command in terminal mode you will get a louder speaker volume. I recently called Aprotek's support BBS and in the message thread read where they were working with their chip vendor to develop a chip with better busy signal recognition. You might call them if you want more info. Fine tuning the baud rate depends on your terminal program. Please leave a note letting us know your hardware, software set-up and we'll see if anyone can help. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 15 Tue Jun 11, 1991 C.AMEZAGA [The Smee] at 00:24 EDT To Fix the Busy Detect BUG: Follow these Intrsuctions. You Normally dial out like so: ATDT2585039 <RETURN> Do this instead: ATDT2585039@ <RETURN> Notice I put an at @ , at then end of the number. It is Neccesary. to detect the BUSY Signal. Without it, you have a 5% chance of the Modem Recognizing the Busy. By the way, they now have the New Chip set Available. It Fixes the Busy Problem. But if the @ trick fixes the problem, don't send it in for repair. C.A. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 16 Tue Jun 11, 1991 K.PHELAN1 [Ken] at 19:17 EDT Thanks ALOT, Smee, for this info! ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 17 Tue Jun 11, 1991 C.AMEZAGA [The Smee] at 23:29 EDT Not a Problem, Why should I have all the Fun :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 18 Thu Jul 04, 1991 R.HAZELWOOD1 [BOB] at 15:36 EDT I just received the Aprotek Minimodem C24 and looked forward to going online on Genie at 2400 baud but it would not work. I'm using Wizard 1.5 on a C128D and have no trouble acessing Genie with the 1670 modem. But when I tryed to log on with the Minimodem at 2400 the 'Connect 2400' appeared but instead of the U# it looked like f-f on the screen. I tryed connecting at 1200 with the C24 and after the 'Connect 1200' and U# the message "Incorrect Format,Renter U# " appeared. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Any help would be appreciated. -BOB- ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 19 Sun Jul 14, 1991 C.MCPHERSON2 at 16:49 CDT My GENIE manual says you are calling a 1200 baud phone number at 2400! ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 20 Mon Jul 15, 1991 R.HAZELWOOD1 [BOB] at 18:58 EDT I never would have thought of that. I guess I'll just have to use the C24 on local BBs until I get a 2400b access #. Thanks for the info. -BOB- ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 21 Tue Oct 15, 1991 SKIZ at 18:56 EDT I have this maodem and everything was fine until recently. Whenever it is in the computer, the drives go crazy and it doesn't work anymore. I opened it up and underneath the board was found a very thin piece of solder that's about 1/2 to 3/4 inch in length just laying loose. Could this have been a jumper of sorts that came undone? ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 22 Tue Oct 15, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 20:50 EDT Is it a piece of solder or a trace from the circuit board? Or is it a wire jumper that has been tinned? Can you see where it fell from the board? ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 23 Wed Oct 16, 1991 SKIZ at 18:33 EDT It never occurred to me that it could be a tinned piece of wire so I checked and sure enough it is. I've examined the underside of the board closely under magnification and can't tell where it may have fell off from. Someone on another network said that at one time there was a slight problem with these modems and that it was a simple fix that the factory would perform. He suggested that this may be the fix from the factory that didn't quite "stick". :) ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 24 Thu Oct 17, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 08:13 EDT On the soldered parts of the board look for round or square pads and try to see which ones look bright and which ones look dull. If you see two areas much duller than the others than that is probably where it fell off. You could always call the company and find out. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 25 Wed Dec 18, 1991 K.KERRUISH2 at 02:58 CST I have a Minimodem C2400, but I have a few problems...when i try to access GEnie at 2400 baud, I usually get a garbled group of letters, and when i try to enter my user #, it tells me that it is an incorrect format. I am using Desterm 2.00, and the problem seems to go away when I mask the high bit, but anher problem occurs, theres an = sign at the end of each prompt...doeanybody else have this problem???? Please help me with this, because it is really becoming frustrating.. Ken Kerruish ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 26 Wed Dec 18, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 06:00 EST I would guess that you have to "fine tune" the transfer baud rate. Though I do not know how to do it with Desterm, it should be in the manual somewhere. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 27 Mon Dec 30, 1991 D.SEARLES at 19:00 EST After going thru all the messages here, I have had several questions I had answered. Thanks folks. However ther is one I need still. When I set up a BBS here, I get a constant 'Ring Detected' message and the BBs tries to answer. There is no call coming in, and it does it constantly.When the 'no carrier' message appears, it goes right to the 'ring detected' mode. There must be something I can do. Can anyone tell me? Thanks..... ******KARNAK***** ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 28 Tue Dec 31, 1991 HOWIE-CBM at 06:59 EST Karnak, It might be an incompatibility between the modem's DTR setting and what the BBS expects. You might try changing the modem's settings, to see how the BBS responds. If it is now &D0, try running with it at: &D3, &D2, or &D1. Or, the reverse. If it is at 1 thru 3, then try a 0 setting. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 29 Wed Jan 01, 1992 D.SEARLES at 15:03 EST Thanx...Howie...will give it a shot. ******KARNAK***** ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 30 Thu Mar 05, 1992 E.SARGENT1 [Sarge] at 00:55 EST HELP!!!!!! I just recieved my second Minimodem-C24 and both have the same problem. They will not recognize a dialtone. I sent the first one back and Aprotek could find nothing wrong with it. They also checked the new one out to make sure it worked before sending it. They tell me that it must be something wrong with my telephone lines, but I checked it out and could find nothing wrong. Even tried it on my second line and still would not work. If I send an ATX1 command I can bypass the dialtone and dial out but then it won't recognize a carrier. I f anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong I will really appreciate it because I am tired of 300 baud on my 1660. BTW I am using a Commodore 64C with a 1541 and 1541-II drives. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. =Sarge= ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 31 Thu Mar 05, 1992 PAUL-MB at 19:35 EST See my reply in cat 1/top 16 :) ...Paul @ Micro-Bytes Publishing ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 32 Sat Apr 18, 1992 C.MCPHERSON2 [Chandler] at 09:43 EDT To force a carrier detect, use the ommand "at&c0". ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 33 Sun May 03, 1992 J.CEBULY [john] at 01:25 EDT Ihave read that to use a 2400 modem with the 128D one must have SwiftLink. Does the MiniModem 2400 need this cartridge as well? ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 34 Sun May 03, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 05:21 EDT John, Isn't the MiniModem Commodore compatable? If it is, then it would plug in direct to the User port, without the need for any interface. An interface for the User port would be required for any of the "standard" Hayes type modems, for running Terms that talk with that port. The SwiftLink uses the Expansion port, and requires a Term specifically written for it. There are now many, like Dialogue128, Kermit, etc. Using the User Port speeds up to 9600 baud are possible. However, with a SwiftLink, speeds up to 38,400 baud are the limit. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 35 Sun May 03, 1992 PAUL-MB at 10:49 EDT -=-=-=- To: J.CEBULY [John] -=-=-=- Nope, the C24 doesn't need SwiftLink. SwiftLink is primarily for RS- 232 (aka IBM, etc) modems. -=* Paul *=- ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 36 Fri May 08, 1992 J.CEBULY [john] at 00:47 EDT Well thank you all for clearing that up for me. Next question is: Anybody running a BBS with one? Any problems? Thanks jc ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 37 Sat May 09, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 13:08 EDT John, Not sure about specifics for the modem. But, I can guarantee that anyone who has ever run a bbs has had problems.... I do not know of anyone who runs a bbs, no matter what platform or program who doesn't have their fair share of horror stories. Seems that this is one category of software that the user cannot load and run without a few glitches entering along the way. One major reason to use a bbs that has support from its author. Howie ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 38 Sat May 09, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 18:33 EDT Another reason to have the source code too. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 39 Sun May 10, 1992 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 22:28 EDT I can't tell you if any are running it, but I know that Greg Pfountz, who wrote Color64 BBS, and who has is support area here in the *FlagShip* was one of the people who worked with it when it first came out, so I bet his BBS supports it. By now, any that don't support it, I would have to wonder about! ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 40 Wed Jun 24, 1992 J.CEBULY [john] at 23:05 EDT Well i should be able to let y'all know soon enough as I found a used one for $40 and I should have it this weekend. As far as BBS software goes, EBBS128/4.6 was recently brought to my attention elsewhere in the Flagship BB (by a couple of you, I believe) and I don't have ANY horror stories to tell about it. Ep may have moved to IBM but I have gotten more than a fair share of support from him/his BBS/other EBBS sysops and the software is great as is. He's also offering a "closeout" price for it so if anyone is thinking about it, DO... cyabye jc ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 41 Mon Dec 28, 1992 H.KONCZAK1 [Henry] at 15:46 EST I posted this message in cat 3 by mistake but I need advice and modems and terminal progs for the 128. I'm giving my 128 to a friend and I want to get her online so I have to locate a modem for her... Where can I find stuff for the 128? Thanks Henry ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 42 Mon Dec 28, 1992 YLR.ROSE [* Mistress *] at 18:06 EST Henry.. do you want or have an Aprotek already? I have a 1670 for sale.. 20 bucks including postage.. that will get your friend started. Check the For Sale ads here in Cat 10, and also the GEnie Ads on page 8740.. 2400 baud modems are numerous and available, but you will need an RS232 interface to use them. :> ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 43 Tue Dec 29, 1992 H.KONCZAK1 [HENRY] at 15:00 EST Mistress, I may be interested in the modem but how much is the RS232 interface and what port to you install it in? Thanks for replying so quickly. Henry ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 44 Tue Dec 29, 1992 C128.JBEE at 18:28 EST The C-1670 plugs directly into the User's Port on the left hand side and doesn't require an interface. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 45 Sun Jan 03, 1993 M.KIRBY2 at 09:14 EST Henry > If you want a modem don't get an Aprotek. I've got one and it gives me trouble at 2400 baud. Particularly on long distance. ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 46 Sun Jan 03, 1993 C.OGLE2 [breadstick] at 20:27 EST I've had my Aprotek online for almost a year and a half with my BBS and am using it now. Haven't had a problem yet. I guess it all depends on who you buy it from and whether or not it's a newer one... ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 47 Wed Jan 06, 1993 F.OGLE [Color 64 BBS] at 18:43 EST I'd say the quality of this product is questionable at best. Besides, one can get a used RS232 compatible modem & interface for around $60 nowadays! ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 48 Wed Jan 06, 1993 PAUL-MB at 19:06 EST I've had nothing but good luck with it. Of course, that's my 2 cents. The only think I could pick nits about is the fact that you can plug the modem in incorrectly, yet still think it's in the correct way. Paul ------------ Category 8, Topic 3 Message 50 Thu Jan 07, 1993 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 23:48 EST I have an Aprotek C24 that I've been using for about four months. Works fine for me. I also use an RS-232 and SL-232 and they all seems to work about the same. ------------ ************ Topic 4 Sun Jun 14, 1992 D.JACKSON13 [kirad] (Forwarded) Sub: hopless with Kermit help with using Kermit software on Genie. 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 1 Sun Jun 14, 1992 D.JACKSON13 [kirad] (Forwarded) a budget. I'm on a budget ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 2 Sun Jun 14, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) If you are on a budget download Wizard 64 for free and get online help using it for free. It is all available from page 625 (m625). Using a lot of the features will save you online time! ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 3 Mon Jun 15, 1992 D.JACKSON13 [kirad] (Forwarded) can tell. ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 4 Tue Jun 16, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) I am sorry, I don't understand the last post. Please explain. ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 5 Sun Jun 21, 1992 D.JACKSON13 [kirad] (Forwarded) Sorry about that. most of my message got erased somehow. Ok, as far as I know, Genie does not support Kermit protocol which is the only one that Kermit uses. Therefore I can't download Wizard 64 ------------ Category 8, Topic 4 Message 6 Sun Jun 21, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Okay, you can send away for the Wizard disk for $2. I will leave you e-mail with details. ------------ ************ Topic 5 Date: Thu Oct 31, 1985 TGROOMS at 20:07 EST Sub: ANCHOR 6470-6480 Modem Info NEW 300/1200 BAUD MODEM BY ANCHOR AUTOMATION FOR USE WITH THE 64. 43 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 1 Thu Oct 31, 1985 TGROOMS at 20:12 EST DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PROGRAMMING THIS NEW MODEM? I HAVE JUST GOTTEN IT AND THE ONLY TERM THAT WILL WORK WITH IT IS THE ONE THAT COMES WITH IT-AUTOCOM V. EVEN THE NEW XMODEM 7.4 WON'T WORK WITH IT, IT WILL DIAL IT AND CONNECT AND THEN START SENDING GARBAGE TO THE SCREEN. CAN ANYONE HELP AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE NEW MODEM? ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 2 Fri Nov 01, 1985 DEB at 12:04 EST You are right...nothing else will work with it, I have one here, too. I'll be talking to Anchor today or Monday, and will see what I can learn. I am VERY disappointed in what would otherwise be an excellent modem. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 3 Wed Nov 06, 1985 DEB at 11:47 EST I spoke with a very nice gentleman at ANCHOR, and they now KNOW the extent of the little incompatibility problem. First, they have requested that *new* software be written which comes with the modem, and this new upgraded software _should_ have both XMODEM and Punter in it from what I understand. The bad news is that they don't expect to have it for another 4 weeks at least! As soon as its available and tested, I'll post a note here, ANCHOR will be keeping us informed on this new software. The good news is that they are making the specs available to ALL term program authors both commercial and PD for modifying the programs to work with the 6470 Modem. All authors who want this information, please contact me in MAIL, and I will forward the details to you. From what he just told me, the following firms are already working on making modifications to their commercial software: *> MicroTechnics Solutions (Sixth Sense, Smart64Term) *> VIP (Softlaw) *> VIDTEX It almost looks like the PD authors can get a good jump on the commercial ones at this point!!! The 6470 _is_ a VERY nice modem, supporting tone and pulse dialing, and priced even less than the favorite VolksModem 1200 (Hayes compatible). The 6470 doesn't have some of the built-in flaws of the 1670, and as soon as the software trouble is fixed, it will HAVE to be one of the best buys on the market!!! I'll keep you posted as Anchor lets us know. *deb!* ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 4 Mon Dec 30, 1985 DEB [*Sysop/deb!*] at 19:26 EST The new Punter program, Versa Term 5.6 is now in library form in the Telecommunications Software library. This program has been supplied by Anchor Automation, and is the first one to support downloading for the 6470 modem. Still no XMO for it, tho. It arrived in the mail yesterday, a little late, buyt at least Anchor got it here...! deb! ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 5 Wed Jan 01, 1986 DEB [*Sysop/deb!*] at 18:10 EST Tim.... Anchor sure did a largeboo boo on this one. I think it is going to hurt the future of that modem very much. I was playing with the new terminal program they supplied to me, the one I posted in the library, and guess what? I sure enough dials, but I can ONLY get the thing to work at 300 baud!!! (grumble, grumble, mumble, mumble) Suppose I get to call them back and start another crusade...oh well! ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 6 Tue Jan 28, 1986 PRESS24 [Softronics] at 00:22 EST Hehehehehehe. Glad to see other people have no hair left from the 6470 dilemma! I have been in contact with Anchor some ten times in two months regarding programming info. Today I talked with a Jerry who was no-nonsense and helpful in regard to getting information... I will be launching a letter out to them to receive their programming packet, and any information which is not specifically asked to be held in confidence I will most happily post on this thing. I, so far, have found it very disappointing to say the least, since it requires some crazy pokes to normal RS232 CIA registers AND to a serial port register in the other CIA chip to perform its magic, while the 1670 accepts simple ascii commands and does all the thinking for the user. By the way, did (does) anyone else have trouble using the software that came with the 6470 at 300 baud? I get a great deal of garbage instead of intelligent data at 300, while 1200 works fine. Steve Lewis ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 7 Wed Jan 29, 1986 DEB [*Sysop* DEB] at 15:25 EST I never tried it at 300 baud...will fire it up later and see! On top of all the rest of these fiascos, Steve, are you aware that there are/will be TWO versions of the 6470 modem, each one using a different CIA chip ??? The first one is incompatible with the 128/1571, so they had to re- do it, but did not re-call it. At this point, even a public domain software author is probably nuts to try to work this into his program...!! ((Personal opinion)) *deb!* ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 8 Fri Jan 31, 1986 PRESS24 [Softronics] at 04:18 EST Yes, aware of the CIA problem... reason is the FAST routines in the 128 use a couple of lines in the serial bus that Anchor didn't plan on... Anchor blames Commodore for not telling them. HA! Tis funny to plug it into a 128 and listen to it chirp whenever accessing the serial bus! Would like to get my hands on a full-blown Hayes just to play with and experience ALL the joys of SMARTmodeming, though. -Steve Lewis ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 9 Thu Feb 27, 1986 RICKERS [Rickers] at 21:46 EST For information on modifying your rev a 6470 modems for use with the C128 and 1571 .... search the C-128 library here with the keyword 6470. You will find 2 files that detail the needed mods with words and pictures! best regards, Rick Sterling ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 10 Wed Mar 05, 1986 RICKERS [Rickers] at 09:14 EST Microtechnic Solutions, Inc. has just completed writing 3! new terminal programs supporting the 6420 and 6470. They are: 1) C64 40 column VT100 with Xmodem 2) C128 40 col VT100 with xmodem 3) C128 80 col with xmodem It is my understanding that Anchor Automation is providing these programs free for the asking. Contact Anchor Automation. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 11 Sat Mar 15, 1986 R.THRIFT [Uncle Bob] at 21:06 PST Unaware of the foregoing messages on the 6470, I bought one and tried it on my 128. After about a week of intense frustration, I took it back to the store and made them eat it. I'm now running the VT100 emulator on my new Commodore 1670 and am extremely happy with it. As far as I could tell, the 6470 worked like it was supposed to. I just couldn't do much with it. Their tiny manual had about one page of info on the 6470 and the rest was about their silly Autocom V program, which I never wanted in the first place. No info at all about how to program for it or how to use it with any other terminal program. Higgyterm wouldn't work with it. Vidtex wouldn't work with it. Argh!!! I was afraid I had acquired an expensive paper weight and I sure was relieved and happy to get my money back. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 16 Mon Aug 25, 1986 TIGLON.G [Tiggy][Sysop] at 04:55 EDT If anyone needs..there is now a short little boot program that will make the 6470 work with a lot of public domain terminal programs! I have no way of testing the file, so if anyone does run across a bug, or finds that the program doesnt work, let me know! The program is called 6470 MOSTTERM! Follow the instructions on the file description plus the ones in the program itself!! --* Tiggy ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 22 Mon Dec 15, 1986 DEB [*deb!*] at 23:59 EST With the sudden high interest in those incompatible 6470/80 Modems from Anchor, I'm listing the files in our software library which deal with them. This includes software for the 64, 128, diagrams, hardware fixes and text material dealing with the modems. I hope this helps everyone who is looking for information... No. File Name Type Address YYMMDD Bytes Access Lib ----- - ----------------------- - ------------ ------ ------- ------ --- 2609 128 VOLKSTERM.LBR X TESTAMARK 861111 8820 65 10 Desc: Volks 6470/6480 128-term 1997 6470 MOSTTERM X TIGLON.G 860823 2520 109 6 Desc: MAKE that 6470 WORK! 517 6470MOD.BIN X RICKERS 860214 10080 93 10 Desc: 6470 mod schematic 80 col hires 2809 COMMTERM7.2.ARC X TIGLON.G 861214 34020 4 6 Desc: Works with the 64XX Series Modems 516 MOD6470.BAS X RICKERS 860214 1260 89 10 Desc: Modfication of 6470 ofr C128/1571 2714 MULTI128V3.1.LBR X MICHAEL.M 861126 52920 133 10 Desc: Multiterm-128 Vers. 3.1 - 40/80 col. 2136 TERM.X X S.SLOANE 860905 3780 107 6 Desc: ML File for VOLKS 6470 TERM 448 VERSATERM 5.6.LBR X DEB 851230 21420 128 6 Desc: Punter Terminal for 6470 modem diali 2135 VOLKS 6470 TERM X S.SLOANE 860905 8820 127 6 Desc: Volks 6470 Term/AutoDialer 2748 VOLKSTERM.LBR X TESTAMARK 861130 15120 38 10 Desc: Volks 6470/80 term for the C-128 238 COMM TERM III-DOC X DEB 851106 10080 194 6 Desc: instructions for CommTerm III 463 COMMTERM III+.LBR X SKMCWHORTER 860111 27720 253 6 Desc: New Commterm III 234 VER3.ML X DUNGEON 851105 5040 123 6 Desc: machine language for comm term iii End of Directory. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 23 Tue Dec 16, 1986 S.SLOANE at 18:14 EST If you're looking for Commterm 7.2 for the Volks series of modems you can gfind it in the TC section. Type m621, then brouse a little. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 24 Tue Dec 16, 1986 DEB [*deb!*] at 22:16 EST S.Sloane... You'll find that I just listed the exact same information for our members right here in the *FlagShip* in the previous message. *deb!* ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 27 Wed Apr 08, 1987 JDCLARK at 00:50 EDT Very interesting reading these old messages. I've just bought a 6480, and am so far happy with it. It is now packaged with CommTerm 128 (and a version for the C64 as well) and I have not yet felt the need to shell out >$50 for commercial terminal software. This software seems quite effective even to my fledgling attempts at telecommunicating. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 28 Wed Apr 08, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] at 19:08 PDT Ah, but you haven't lived until you have used Bobsterm Pro. This is one commercial program worth every cent it costs. Courtney ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 29 Sun Apr 12, 1987 JDCLARK at 02:29 EDT Courtney, I was afraid someone would say that... I've gazed at that box while sighing. In any case I'm new to telecomm., and CommTerm works for now. Also, the box does not specifically state that it supports the 6480. Do you know this for sure? JDCLARK ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 30 Sun Apr 12, 1987 CHARRINGTON [Courtney] at 11:38 PDT No...the manual doesn't say anything about it either. Maybe someone else knows. Anyone ??? Courtney ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 31 Tue Apr 14, 1987 DEB [*SysOp*] at 03:41 EDT BTPro does *not* support the 6470/80 modems...sorries, folks. Bob took one look at what it took to support the modems and laughed...<<smile>> I was there when he rec'd the stack of papers. However....Sixth Sense 128 should support that modem, or did last time I knew. You might check the demo of Sixth Sense in the Library. ((we ARE talking 128's here, right...?)) *deb!* ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 32 Sat Apr 18, 1987 JDCLARK at 01:22 EDT aaaauuuuggghhh! Well, so far, it's working, so I won't complain. JDCLARK ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 33 Sun Jul 12, 1987 M.TALBERT at 11:45 EDT I HAVE FOUND THAT ST/R TERMINAL WORKS VERY WELL AND HAS XMODEM!! I WAS READY TO TAKE MYINE BACK TILL I FOND THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! MIKE TALBERT ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 34 Sun Oct 11, 1987 R.FOX1 at 19:09 EDT For those of you who have experienced difficulties getting your 6470/6480 to work with other terminals... I have this little routine that will help in most cases. For most PD Terms it should work fine; for some commercial terminals it does not help any. 10 POKE 56590, 65 20 POKE 56581, 0 30 POKE 56580, 0 40 POKE 56588, 63 : REM FOR 1200 BAUD USAGE 50 REM CHANGE TO POKE 56588, 47 FOR 300 BAUD 60 FOR X = 1 TO 100 : NEXT 70 POKE 56590, 8 80 POKE 56580, 255 90 POKE 56581, 255 99 END Run this little program BEFORE booting your terminal. What it does is send the command to the modem (over the serial bus, which connects to the user port) to tell it to turn on the carrier. Then use your terminal normally. When it picks the phone up, the carrier will be turned on; so you will have to manually dial the number and have the term pick up and take over when the carrier is heard. If your term is BASIC, you may be able to add this routine into the proper place of the program. If you have any other questions (or hopefully answers) to the 6470/6480 dilemma then post them up, and I (we) will see what can be done to help. ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 35 Sun Oct 11, 1987 KEVIN.S [-Sysop-] at 21:46 EDT Thanks! I will type this in and stick it in the libraries, too. KeS ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 36 Tue Oct 20, 1987 ZAPHOD-B [Lee] at 23:05 EDT I've done some investigating of my own, and I'm still semi-mystified! I found out : 6470 rev A.(Orig) uses pins 4 and 5 of user port which are controlled by CIA#1 reg C...while REV B (Mine) was modified to use 6 and 7 (CIA#2) My 'PROGRAMMING' booklet did little to help clear up any of this! I understand you must load the control code into reg $0C of whatever CIA chip, but how does it get sent? I'm new to programming interface chips... ALSO: NO PROGRAM I HAVE SEEN USES THE SPEAKER!!!! Does it just SIT there? do the upper 2 bits of the control byte handle the speaker? Does anybody have any further info? Well, thanks for listening, This info will be greatly appreciated! Not only by myself, but also by the many buying these modems (at $74 from PROTECTO??!?!?!) and there still lacks good support (Although ST/R term and others are good progs!) ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 37 Fri Nov 13, 1987 DAVID-YOUNG at 04:19 EST Well, after downloading five terms,ordering a disk from PD PDS, sending my commterm backt to the company for a new one,all for nought ... I have found IT !!! TouchTerm has been modified to use the 6480. It's a very user friendly term. I mean very friendly !!! But, it only has a 17k buffer :: sigh :: I downloaded this from another net ( no names mentioned here :: grin ::) If there is some interest I'll upload it here. One caveat[: When I sign on, I ,ustmust hit f5 to go to menu, and hit 'a' for graphic terminal,. Otherwise i get grarbage data. ---Dave--- ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 38 Fri Nov 13, 1987 DEB at 20:33 EST Thanks for the information, Dave...please do upload the newest TouchTerm! *deb!* ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 39 Fri Jan 01, 1988 ZAPHOD-B at 22:34 EST I've discovered a bit more info: 1)The guy who designed the 6470 no longer works for Anchor Aut. 2)That speaker is not programmable i.e.You can't turn it on or off like on a Hayes-type. It is simply a listen when on type thing Be on the look out for MUTerm-64! Zaphod ------------ Category 8, Topic 5 Message 40 Sun Jan 03, 1988 DAVID-YOUNG at 03:17 EST Sounds real interesting Zaph post somethin' here on the B-board when it's up and running will ya ??? What chance of a 128 prog for the 6480 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? --Dave-- ------------