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they're already in breach of contract with every member over what they say they will provide vs. what they do provide. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 6 Sun Jan 09, 1994 K.PEINDL at 22:29 EST Well its nice to see that the center of the Geos world will be here on The Commodore Flag Ship of GEine. The reason I asked in the first place was that while reading past issue of Run and Compute Gazette alot of special files that were uploaded to Q-Link for owners of Geos prg to correct bugs and so fort seem to me to be important enough to obtain. Also is there any chance that CMD will be producing a 3.5 Geos boot disk in the future? ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 7 Sun Jan 09, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 23:02 EST No. Our agreement with Geoworks does not allow for that. But then, it's pretty simple to make your own with geoMakeBoot. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 8 Mon Jan 10, 1994 P.KELLER5 at 00:37 EST You can make your own GEOS boot disk with the Maverick program, I finally did and it's nice to put all those 3 double sided disks on 1 3 1/2! I didn't see the GEOS area on Q-Link lately, but as of the first weekend of the new year, Q-Link was still around, if you call it that. I use our user group disk now, cancelled my own account back in Sept. Got really tired of the areas stating "No longer available" or "Currently unavailable, check again later". It's funny to see that Geoworks still won't allow you guys at CMD to do any changes to their GEOS products, since they have abandoned us anyway. I found that proof when I asked about support in their own area on GEnie, and they said nope! I am surprised that the GEOS products are still selling at a very high price still. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 9 Mon Jan 10, 1994 C128.JBEE at 16:09 EST GEOWORKS has a core technology (GEOS) which they use in all their products, and after reading an interview with B.D. I bet they are using it in the new P.D.A.s So, I do not think it is surprising that they will not allow people to use the source code. Also, the source code is worth much much much more to a product usually than the right to reproduce the software. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 10 Sun Jan 23, 1994 H.STEVENS5 [KHaroldOH] at 16:27 EST Well, guys, when Q-Link dropped the GEOS Arena, it was on decision I made that made it easy for me to dump them and sign on with GEnie. From what I have been reading here, I don't think I made a mistake, particularly since I am a user of Gheavy ysuser of GEOS and CMD gateWay stuff. (both personally and pforofessionally). So, it looks like you all will be hearing from me as much on this BBS as you did on Q. --HaroldOH ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 11 Sun Jan 23, 1994 CMD-DOUG at 21:30 EST Great! Glad to see you here! :) ------------ ************ Topic 38 Tue Jan 11, 1994 S.EYRSE at 04:38 EST Sub: MailBarCode I'm very sorry 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 38 Message 1 Tue Jan 11, 1994 S.EYRSE at 04:41 EST To the 21 or plus people who downloaded the mailbar.arc and found out that one file was missing and another had two names.. I don't know what happened but hay..this year has started out with some real bad FUNG CHOY.. I just uploaded a new .sda that has the correct files. I double checked. once more very sorry..perhaps JBEE CAN give you some free time for my screwup..Steve... ------------ Category 6, Topic 38 Message 2 Tue Jan 11, 1994 C128.JBEE at 14:31 EST I guess that is why I could not get it to work in geoWrite 128 :) Why not upload that single file so C-64ers can use the previous archive? ------------ Category 6, Topic 38 Message 3 Tue Jan 11, 1994 S.EYRSE at 23:36 EST yes I'll do that just the font for those who didn't get it.. Steve. ------------ ************ Topic 39 Wed Jan 12, 1994 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] at 19:17 EST Sub: What Happened To What happened to the Great Geos Programs Uploaded by Kent Smotherman? they seem to be missing from the libs. since the shuffel. These are some of the most usful programs around. Just wondering........ 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 1 Thu Jan 13, 1994 C128.JBEE at 02:17 EST I bought the rights to all of Kent Smotherman's software when he moved on. They are being pulled from all the networks and will be re-released with new docs and information. I expect to finish this sometime before the 2nd quarter of 94. Some of the commmercial versions will be uploaded to Lib#10. The C-64 versions will be ported over to 80 columns during the later part of 94. Would be earlier, but I am just learning GEOS programming now :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 2 Tue Jan 18, 1994 CBM-MARK at 00:24 EST JB> The C-64 versions will be ported over to 80 columns during JB> the later part of 94. Excellent!!! A real bonus for us 80 column users ;D ------------ ************ Topic 40 Wed Jan 12, 1994 W.WIESE [WES256] at 20:11 EST Sub: Topdesk-Has it been upgraded...... to take advantage of ram81's and/or CMD partitions in HD's,RL's Does anyone know if Quincy Softworks is online here at GENIE, and if so please leave name that he can be reached at. Thanx. 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 40 Message 1 Fri Jan 14, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 00:21 EST Dave Ferugson, owner of Quincy Softworks, has the GEnie Email address of "dibief". I'm not sure how much he logs on, but I will be in contact with him in the next few weeks. I'll pass along your request. :) -Tim ------------ ************ Topic 41 Thu Jan 13, 1994 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 20:45 EST Sub: geoSHELL Any possible question concerning geoSHELL may be directed at this topic. I will be available to answer any questions about it's use. 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 41 Message 1 Thu Jan 13, 1994 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 21:00 EST If anybody needs any help with any particular command in geoSHELL just leave a message here. Also, with the new geoSHELL Programmer's Development Package that is now available and online here, I might be able to help with any question that might arise from the use of this package. Also, if anybody has discovered anything interesting that they are able to do with geoSHELL, please post a message here so that other user's can share in your experience. From time to time, I will leave hints and tips on using geoSHELL. Here's the first tip: Whenever you type in a filename, geoSHELL will first assume it to be a command. If it does not find a command of that name, then it will look for a file to load and run with that name. This is why the drives appear to be searched twice. Commands take first priority. If you wish to get a little quicker response, use the command 'run' followed by the filename instead of just typing in the filename by itself. Or you might also try using wildcards. Since wildcards are not allowed in commands, geoSHELL will bypass looking for a command if you use a wildcard in the filename. All it takes is at least one asterisk or question mark somewhere in the filename you type in. You might also consider assigning your most popular files to a two-character hotkey. These also execute immediately. For a one or two drive user, the delay while looking for a command is not much of a problem. But for the power users that are using four drives and also a path partition, a total of five sources are searched and sometimes the extra two or three seconds is annoying. Anybody that downloads and makes use of the new development package will find that it contains most anything you might need to write your own commands. The requirements are GEOS 128 or 64 V2.0, GeoProgrammer, and naturally geoSHELL V2.2. Plus you should have either or both of The Hitchhiker's Guide to GEOS and The Official GEOS Programmer's Reference Manual. ------------ ************ Topic 42 Sun Jan 16, 1994 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] at 16:14 EST Sub: geospell help!!!! I am having problems with geospell. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 42 Message 1 Sun Jan 16, 1994 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] at 16:27 EST I have a file that I am trying to spell check. It is a geowrite file (of course) that I started in geowrite, it is not converted from someother format. It has grown to 10 pages. I have moved the marjins (only the right) over to 5 to advoid sideflipping. The paragph indicator is 2 lines in . By the way this is verson 2.0, I have not made it 2.1. It will spellchek up to the last page (or last spell chek section, it only checks 3 pages at a time and then checks another 3 pages etc.) and then crashes. The computer locks up and the screen turns to a multi-color mess. I have tried inserting many page breaks, changing from one format to another and back again to no avail. I have tried discontecting my 1750 and only useing my 1581, but it still crases. I spell checks fine untill it checks for the last time (useally the last 3 pages) and crashes. I hope some one can help me with this. I have never had this happen to me before and I have been useing GEOS for 5 years now. I also tried goning back to desktop but that did not work either. I would like to know what is wrong. I even tried moving the right marjin out to full right, but it still crashes. Does anyone have any ideas? Being a writer this is very flustraing, especaly to go back to the oldfashoned way of spell checking. Ouch! :((( I would appreacate any and all comment on this problem. Thanks in advance. :) Dan ------------ Category 6, Topic 42 Message 2 Sun Jan 16, 1994 C128.JBEE at 19:07 EST Have you tried file copying the geoWrite file to another disk along with the spell checker? One of them may have been corrupted on the disk or missing a sector/track link. ------------ Category 6, Topic 42 Message 3 Sun Jan 16, 1994 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] at 19:55 EST The Problem is with the Spell Checker Copy another Known good one to your disk and try it again. I've had this problem befor. Another problem with the spell checker is that it sometimes gets hung up on the letter "W" . Hope This solves your problem If not let us Know. Jim ------------ Category 6, Topic 42 Message 4 Mon Jan 17, 1994 R.ROBBINS7 [BUSTER] at 00:49 EST I've had the same problem, sometimes copying geoSpell to another disk will corrupt it. Copy geoSpell over again from a disk you know works o.k. ...BTW if you're using a 1571 drive check the alignment, they are well know for getiing knocked out of alignment very easily. Mostly the bottom head won't read the disk correctly from that cheapo piece of metal that holds the head in place. ------------ ************ Topic 50 Wed Nov 03, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:43 EST Sub: CHATROOM GUESTS ON TUESDAY NIGHTS Dates and times of "Guest speakers" in GEOS DEN. These will be informal chat formats with formal "speaking" threads throughout the visit. This will be on Tuesday nights in GEOS-TIM's (that's me) RTC. SEE YOU THERE! 21 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 1 Wed Nov 03, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:47 EST Maurice Randall will be the first "Guest Speaker" on November 16th. He will be talking about geoShell, his CLI desktop. You owe it to yourself to look into it, since this desktop can do emarkable things. He will also be talking about his new DeskTop Publishing program for 128's called FINALLY. This Geos program will allow you to produce files that have 360 dpi resolution. The exact times will be posted here. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 2 Wed Nov 03, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:50 EST On November 23rd, Tom Netsel, the editor of Compute's Gazette will be "guest Speaker" in the chatroom. Times are still being decided upon. Tom will be talking about the upcoming changes in the Gazette format. Tom is always good at dropping little gems of information on happenings throughout the Commodore world. Hope you can be there. You've been good, so give yourself this treat. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 3 Mon Nov 15, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 20:07 EST Tuesday night in the RTC room 6 will be Maurice Randall. He will be talking about his new CLI desktop for Geos: geoSHELL, and his upcoming Desktop publishing program:Finally. The night with Maurice will start at 10 with about 15 minutes of informal chat. At about 10:15 we will have a formal 30 minutes of information, with questions being answered with the /rai command for being recognized. At 10:45 we will go into a little more of an informal format followed with another half hour that will be devoted to left over questions concerning geoSHELL, followed with more info on new programs including, FINALLY. It promises to be an interesting and educational evening. Be there to meet one of the premier programmers in the 64/128 field. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 4 Thu Nov 18, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 19:34 EST For those who missed Maurice Randall's excellent night in the GEOS DEN RTC on Tue.Nov.16. Don't dispair! I will be uploading a transcript in the next couple weeks. The next "guest speaker" will be this coming Tuesday, on the 23rd. Tom Netsel,editor of the Gazette, will be on hand to answer questions on the new format for the Gazette this January, and telling folks how to submitt articles and programs to the Gazette. There will be more announcements concerning this night in a couple days. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 5 Mon Nov 22, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 22:36 EST Tom Netsel will be in from 10 to 11:30 p.m. EST in the GEOS DEN (room 6 in the RTC) He will be talking about the new changes in the works for the Gazette, telling you how to submit articles and giving you hints on how to be accepted, and Tom will be disclosing some info that just was given to him from the main office. In fact, to borrow a phrase from 6 o'clock news: You will hear it here first. So warm up those keys, and drop into the RTC's tomorrow night, Tuesday. The first 15 minutes will be an informal open talk period, followed by a an informational question and answer. SEE YOU THERE! ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 6 Tue Nov 23, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 00:30 EST FOR THOSE THAT MISSED MAURICE RANDALL You feel bad that you missed the conference. All your friends were there and you had to go to the opera with your wife. DON'T WORRY .......File #13879 is a transcript of the happenings of Tuesday night with Maurice Randall. DL it and impress your friends with your knowledge of geoSHELL and FINALLY. ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 7 Wed Nov 24, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:40 EST If you missed Tom Netsel tonight, you missed a great one, but a transcript will be uploaded by this weekend if not sooner. :) Look in this message thread for the next conference. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 8 Wed Nov 24, 1993 C128.JBEE at 02:46 EST Both excellent and informative RTCs :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 9 Tue Nov 30, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 21:44 EST The Tom Netsel RTC transcript is in library 33 now. Filename: Tom-Netsel.txt File number: 13909 This transcript was edited by THE.OUTLAW. So if you missed the RTC conference with Tom Netsel, editor of the Gazette Compute, upload this file. There is some information that can save you money, make you money, and generally inform you. Be looking for the next guest speaker in December. At the moment Jim Collette and I are firming up a date, and I will be announcing it in this message thread. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 10 Sun Dec 05, 1993 MRABOY at 09:40 EST Why am i having truoble reading the transcript of the RTC conference. When I try to read file I don't get any text . I have not had A problem downloadingother files. AM I missing something Mike:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 11 Sun Dec 05, 1993 C128.JBEE at 18:21 EST Did you download the file as SEQ ASCII? Or did you batch download it with other program files so now whatever word processor you are using will not load it because it is a PRG file? In that case load it with "filename,p" or use a type changer to make it a SEQ file. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 12 Tue Dec 07, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:18 EST Jim Collette will be in on December 21st. Tenative times are from 10 - 11:30. This will be an informal conference and you'll get a chance to talk to one of the Commodore community's premier programmers. If you happen to have GeoWizard, you know what I'm talking about. Jim also wrote one of the best GEos font editors, a batch loader, Postscript apps, and a ton of other programs. So, mark your calendar, and log in on the 21st. We'll be looking for you. :) -Tim BTW You don't have to be a GEOS user to enjoy the evening. We are looking forward to all 64/128 users being there. ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 13 Mon Dec 20, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 19:09 EST JIM COLLETTE>>>>>>>>>>>>>TUESDAY NIGHT........From 10:30 to 11...... Programmer such programs as:GeoWizard,MiniDesk,Select Printer,Gateway128, Gateway 64 (the 2.5 versions), FONT CHANGER, Dos_Wedge, Auto AlbumAdd, GeoWiz Dump, PS Processor, PS Patch, LaserWrtr 2.1_GC (Yes, he made it easy to use PostScript with Geos). This is not an all inclusive list, but as you see, he is one of the premier programmers of GEOS apps, and DA's, and on top f that is a heck of a nice guy. We hope to see you at this informal talk about Geos, Geos programming, What Jim is doing now, extending greetings, and having an all around good time. I hope you can all come. :) -Tim PS You will probably get some of those questions answered to. ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 14 Wed Dec 22, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 20:12 EST For those of you that missed Tuesday's Collette conference, you'll get to sit in as soon as the trascripts are edited and uploaded. This informal conference saw a lot of topics flash across the screen ending with a "panel discussion"like talk between Jim Collette, Maurice Randall, Steve Eyrse, and Doug Cotton concerning programming techniques, problems, etc.. There was something for everyone. Many new conferences are in the process of being scheduled in 1994. There are no dates firmed yet, so keep an eye on this message thread. I will post them as soon as the dates are known. :) -Tim THANKS: I would like to say thanks to Cameron Stewart, THE.OUTLAW, for his behind the sceens help of buffering and editing the last three conferences. He does a great job of editing and getting them uploaded so folks can get them super quick. Thanks again, Cam :) -Tim NOTE:sceens=scenes ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 15 Thu Jan 13, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 00:34 EST This Saturday, January 15, I will be running a Commodore RT booth at the computer Expo in East Lansing, Michigan. I will be online from 10 to 4 pm. EST. I will be coming into the RTC in room #6 at 10:30,12:30,1:30, and 3:30. I will be coming in for about 10 to 15 minutes. What I would like, is if any of our fine 64/128 users happen to be in the electronic hallways of GEnie, I'd appreciate it if you stop in at one of those four times. There will be a lot of potential new GEnie users, and since it is a Commodore EXPO, they will be in this area. I will also be taking them into our BB and libs, so they can see how easy it is to navigate in GEnie. So I hope to see you there, and if you happen to be a Michigan or near by State resident, maybe we will really see you there at the EXPO. It is on Abbott Road, East Lansing. Maurice Randall will be giving three seminars, with one of them giving everyone a peek at FINALLY, the in the near future Desktop publishing program for the C=128. Thanks for your participation (ahead of time). :)-Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 16 Tue Jan 18, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 21:11 EST EXPO A SUCCESS ! ! ! The EXPO was a success. At the Commodore RT booth I manned, a half a dozen people would be there at various times watching those events on GEnie that many of us take for granted. A lot of their comments let me see just how great it is. One lady wrote an Email letter to her nephew in Florida, a man checked some price quotes on new cars, we peekedin on RSCards, and several folks looked in on our Bullitin boards in our RT. The LACC (Lansing Area Commodore Club) that put this on, has done a great job promoting the 64/128 machines we have grown to love. Besides this yearly Expo, they get a booth in a Computer Show. As one of two Commodore displays they show the world that the 64/128 is still ticking. They even draw a lot of folks with their outstanding SID display. In fact, the SID sounds better and the graphics going with the SID sound better than that IBM a few booths down (I guess I am sort of partial - LOL). My hat is off to this fine club. It is something we can all do. Give a little PR for our computers. It can be fun. JUst ask a LACC member. :) -Tim BTW This whole letter started out as a Thanks for those that helped with the booth, by being here on GEnie. Thanks you were Great. A special thanks to QT for being in the RTC to say "hi" to our guests at the EXPO. ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 17 Tue Jan 18, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 21:21 EST * * * * *PROGRAMMING KICKOFF ON JANUARY 25th On January the 25th. we will be having a kickoff for Tony Tolle and his new programming night. This will be the night to let him know what your concerns are, if you are just starting in programming, and what topics you would like covered. Or you can just come on in, and see what's going on. The Kickoff will start at 10. Several programmers have said they are going to come, so make sure you do to. When you think programming, think Thursday, because following the kickoff, Tony will be rolling on January 27th.. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 18 Tue Jan 18, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 21:25 EST FRED BOWEN ON February 22, 1994 I just got confirmation from Fred Bowen, Senior Engineer from Commodore, that he will be in my Tuesday rTC on Feb. 22.. So gather all those Commodore hardware questions, historical anecdotes questions, what's new at Commodore questions, and come on in. So mark your calendars, and we will see you all there. :) -TIm ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 19 Wed Jan 19, 1994 H.HERMAN1 at 02:21 EST Tim, Might I also suggest that we have a "surprise" visit from Bil Herd during that very same RTC? At least a surprise for Fred! Fred and Bil go together very well. Sort of like Mutt and Jeff. Or, Laurel and Hardy. Or.... I think you get the idea.... Bil has a unique "off-the-wall" personality that should make for a fun filled evening. For those who do not recognize who Bil might be, he is one of the guys etched in ROM... in the C128. If you are intersted, let me know. I'm Bil's booking agent in the Catskills... :) ha! Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 20 Thu Jan 20, 1994 GEOS-TIM at 00:04 EST That is an interesting thought. I'd like to talk to you about it. It could make it quite an interesting evening. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 50 Message 21 Tue Jan 25, 1994 A.TOLLE at 01:39 EST Come and visit the RTC on Tuesday, January 25, 1994 at 10:00pm EST to talk to me and some other knowlegable people about programming, and to help decide the future of the regular programming RTC on Thursdays. GEOS-TIM will be your host, and I will try to assist people with their programming questions. Also, it will be a chance for a general discussion of programming, so I can decide what type of activities I will be including on Thursday nights. Please come and stop in, especially if you are a beginning BASIC or ML programmer, so I can find out what people are looking for. I hope to see you there! Tony Tolle ------------ 6 Thank you for choosing GEnie. Have a nice day! Online: 9 minutes, 57 seconds. OFF AT 14:19EST 01/28/94 k4)nDDq NO CARRIER