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************ Topic 2 Mon Feb 15, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] (Forwarded) Sub: Converter Programs What programs to use to convert other files to GEOS. 38 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 1 Mon Feb 15, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] (Forwarded) I need help with finding, if there are any, programs to convert B8 and DD graphics to geoPaint. I have found several graphic pictures which are in DD and B8 format, and I can not find a program to convert them. I also need to know if there are any program which will convert PrintShop graphics to geoPaint. And what is the difference between side A and B in Print Shop format? Thanks for any help. David. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 2 Mon Feb 15, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) I can answer part of your question, that wrt the side a/b print shop graphics. The easiest way to say it is that size is the difference. The 2 block graphics are like 6 wide bye 7 high (chars) and the 3 block ones are 13 wide by 8 high. That is an approximation because they are actually in bits, and do not work out exactly to even 8 bit increments. As for why, it may have something to do with the fact that CBM printers in graphic mode use only 7 bits of a byte flagging graphic mode by setting bit 7 always on, and IBM / EPSON printers use escape codes that tell the printer graphics code is coming and how many bytes to expect, and then use all 8 bits for the actual graphic data. When you can, you get a graphic with greater detail with the 3 block graphics. The graphics on the demo card that comes with Print Shop are all the 3 block graphics. When I say 2 and 3 block, btw, I am referring the size on the disk in blocks. I just don't recall right now which side of the disk they are on. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 3 Mon Feb 15, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Hi :) I do have a Basic 8 to Geos converter (only does B&W 640x400 - how I did Masterpiece Designs). Once I have a color version done I will be releasing both on a TC-128/64 disk. re:Doodle Converter Use Graphic Storm by Joe Buckley. I just uploaded it, file #11127. It should be live by Tuesday night. re:PSA vs PSB PSA graphics are for non-Commodore printers like Epson printers and PSB graphics are for Commodore printers. Since PSB graphics are meant for a printer with lower resolution they are also lower resolution and graphics converted to side B tend to be distorted. PrintShop graphics of choice are side A (PSA) since they are the higher resolution and most people who design PrintShop graphics use this format first. The Geos utility to use for this is "Get Graphic" which allows converting and stuffing PSA into Photo Albums 127 at a time! File #11126 and it should be live by Tuesday night. I uploaded 21 disks of PSA a while ago into Lib #24 if you are interested in clipart ( I LOVE clipart :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 4 Tue Feb 16, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] (Forwarded) I love glipart to. I just can not seem to find any that are really good. I am also looking for borders, or frames, which I can use around the clip art. I D/L a border from another network, where the person who made it used Masterpiece Designs, and if all of the designes are as good as this one, I would love to get this disk from you, JBEE. How much are they? Do you have a file, which I can D/L with some "samples" on it? I also have a disk full of graphics which I copied from a friend of mine in Sweeden, but for some reason I forgot to get the main program, so I can not view or print these. I have no idea what format they are, nor what the name of the program was. The program was capable of using a scanner/camer to make graphics, that is all I remember of the program. Does this program sound familiar? If not which program would be the best to use to try to convert these to GEOS? I have tried the program that converts Handyscanner files to GEOS, but it does not work. David. P.S. Thanks for U/L those programs, and explaning PSA and PSB. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 5 Tue Feb 16, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) You are welcome David :) re:Masterpiece Designs I discontinued selling it a while ago once I determined RUN was never even going to look at the package, never mind review it. The licensing costs were just too high to continue advertising and selling it without a review. The small Basic 8 demos I have uploaded were actually designed with the art from the package :) re:stuff from Sweden Ahh.... I believe those are actually from a *commercial* software package meant to be used with Pagefox as RIO use to offer them for sale. You "should" be able to convert them with Handy Import. If you are really interested in them I can contact RIO & see if he still sells them. I have never seen them except maybe one or two sample sheets. You could always try the Handyscanner paint program I uploaded to GEnie (lib #22 with RIO's permission) to load the graphics and then save them out to disk and try Handy Import on them then. File #s 8847 & 8846. JBEE (: ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 6 Tue Feb 16, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] (Forwarded) I D/L the two conversion programs, and they both work fine, except the program which put PSA into Photo Albums. After a lot of trial and error I found out that you can not create a photo album within the photo manager. If you do, the system crashes. (System error near $241F) I also D/L the PSA01.SFX file, and the graphics are great. This is the kind of clip art I have been looking for, and I wish everbody would make a file which shows what graphics are in the graphic files they U/L, That way you don't have to spend a long time online and not use the graphics once you have them. I will try the Handyscanner paint program. I hope it works. Now a question which has nothing to do with conversion programs. I have a 128D with two 1571s and an 80col monitor. How do I make a BASIC program work "with" GEOS? When I say work, I mean it will exit GEOS, run, then when I quit the program, it will return to GEOS? I would like a program which could convert the BASIC program to GEOS, but I don't think there is one that will do that. [B Thanks for all the help, and thanks for VERY good clip art. David. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 7 Tue Feb 16, 1993 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) You're right, there is no program that will convert a BASIC 7.0 program to a GEOS program. They are 2 completely different operating systems. RUN magazine, when it was still around, used to sell a Basic-like programming language called, appropriately ;) , GEOBasic. I have no idea where you can get it now though. Category #6 (GEOS) has a topic about GEOBasic if you're interested in it. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 8 Wed Feb 17, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Hi David You are welcome :) Glad you liked the SFX listing the graphics in each archive. I try to do that with any "whole" disk I upload so people don't waste their time downloading something they might not want. After all not everyone might want cars emblems or maybe MSD nibblers (referring to the MSD disks). I do have 8 more disks of PSA I haven't uploaded yet. If it would make it easier on you I could upload the converted Photo Albums already done. I actually have all the PSA converted into all the available clipart graphic formats (PSA, PSB, PMA, NRA, GEOS, and Basic 8). As for the Geos Basic question, I will leave that to a Geos expert :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 9 Wed Feb 17, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Mark, For now, GEOBasic is available from TechMedia Special Products. It is item #RPA12, and costs $29.97. Their address: TechMedia Special Products P.O. Box 2151 Salisbury, MD 21802 Tel: (410) 546-0180 for orders (603) 924-0108 for tech support Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 10 Wed Feb 17, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] (Forwarded) From what I hear, you may want to hold off on ordering from them. Isn't the rumor that they are in trouble too following on the heels of Run? ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 11 Wed Feb 17, 1993 CBM-MARK (Forwarded) From what I hear, Techmedia isn't answering their phones either. Don't know for sure though, just rumor ;) ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 12 Thu Feb 18, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) oh.... I did not know this about TechMedia. Will scratch it off my recommendation list. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 13 Fri Feb 19, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] (Forwarded) JBEE. If you could U/L the PSA's in Photo Albums that would be a whole lot easier for me, that is if you don't mind. But if they are not in v2.1 and have more than 60 graphics in them, they can not be converted. As for my previous question about geoBasic. I allready have geoBasic. What I need is to know how to do the following: I have a program in BASIC 7.0 which I made and use a lot, but I also use GEOS a lot. After I exit GEOS and use my program, is there a way to return to GEOS, WITHOUT rebooting the whole system? My usermanual says to push the RESTORE key, but nothing happens. I hope that is more understandable. I was also wondering if it would be hard to make a program which reads two geoPaint files at once, printing them side by side? I have a Printer Driver which prints at 180x180, and I would like to put two of them next to eachother. For example, I draw half of a house on one page, and the other half on another page, then when they are printed out, it prints them together. David. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 14 Sat Feb 20, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Hi David, Sure, I can upload them in Photo Albums, no problem. re: 2.1 format and 60+ per album. I will have to check that out! JB:Okay, I just did. They are in an earlier format with <-60 per album so I have converted them to 2.1 and will be uploading some this weekend. >I have a program in BASIC 7.0 which I made and use a lot, but >I also use GEOS a lot. After I exit GEOS and use my program, >is there a way to return to GEOS, WITHOUT rebooting the whole >system? My user manual says to push the RESTORE key, but nothing happens. Isn't this what the REU/Rboot file is suppose to do? Do you have an REU? >I was also wondering if it would be hard to make a program which reads two >geoPaint files at once, printing them side by side? geoPager will do something like that with the addition of some new laser drivers we have planned. Maybe the ability to squish two pages together onto a page is a feature we will implement later. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 15 Mon Feb 22, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 02:50 EST I currently do not have an REU. There was a program made for the 64 version of GEOS, (the program was a BASIC program), which would return to GEOS without having to Reboot the hole system. What I need is something like this for the 128 version (BASIC 7.0) or GEOS. David ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 16 Mon Feb 22, 1993 CBM-MARK at 21:59 EST Ahhhhh, now that you mention that David I *do* remember a C64 BASIC program that you could runfrom GEOS and have it return. Was a graphic converter program wasn't it? Though, I thought it *did* reboot GEOS in order to return. Used something like ... 'load"geos",8,1' if I remember right. Haven't used that program for so long I can't remember for sure. Don't have it anymore either. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 17 Tue Feb 23, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:20 EST Hmm, in principle it should not be too hard to do that from GEOS128. The BASIC program would just have to make sure to the variable (Bank 1) RAM pointers so as not to disturb GEOS. This will limit the variable space the BASIC program has to something like 23K, but that shouldn't be a problem since a 64 version doing the same thing would be limited to 23K for both variables and program space, if it is to not disturb GEOS. On the 128, changing the top- of-memory pointers for RAM 0 has no effect, so you just have to make sure that the text of the BASIC program isn't "too long." Hmm, off of the top of my head (with some reference to a few manuals), I think this would work: no guarantee, though, because I haven't tried it, but am composing into my Dialogue128 editor :) At the beginning of the BASIC program: 10 poke57,dec("ff"):poke58,dec("5f"): rem set top of variables safely 20 rem no need to change top of BASIC text, just make sure program is short And, at the end of the BASIC program: 65535 bank1:sysdec("c22c") : call geos enterdesktop routine Again, no guarantees, but that is what I would try first. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 18 Tue Feb 23, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 13:08 EST Rob, You make it all sound so easy... And, following your suggestions it is easy! Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 19 Tue Feb 23, 1993 CBM-MARK at 22:54 EST First chance I get I'm going to try your suggestion Rob! Neat! ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 20 Wed Feb 24, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 21:50 EST Well, it probably isn't as easy as I made it sound because I probably forgot about or didn't consider a whole host of things :). Let me know if it works; if not, I'll have to sit down sometime and mess around with it. (Or, anyway, put it down on my list of things that "I ought to have done already," like the native mode geoPaint viewer....) -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 21 Thu Feb 25, 1993 CBM-MARK at 08:08 EST Well Rob, if you're making a list *I'ld* like to see the native mode GEOPaint viewer at the very top ;) ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 22 Thu Feb 25, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 10:31 EST Mark: Unless you have your heart set on a C128 mode program that does that, I uploaded a C64 mode viewer that will view GEOPaint files from native mode on the C64 side... scrolls up/down/side/side too. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 23 Thu Feb 25, 1993 CBM-MARK at 21:42 EST Yes Ed, I (and others I'm sure ;) do have my heart set on one for the C128. Would rather view in 80 columns than 40 anyday :D ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 24 Sun Feb 28, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 17:41 EST There already is a native mode geoPaint viewer for the C128. I think it is file #10542 (GEOVIEW) or #9931 (GEOVIEWER.SFX). The first one requires 64K VDC. The copy I have only runs from a 1581 drive... The programmer used direct track/sector reads, so it looks for the directory on track 40, sector 0. :( I changed it to 18,0 to try on my '71, but it didn't work right. Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 25 Sun Feb 28, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 21:20 EST Indeed... the problem with that one is, it only views geoPaint files in their GEOS format. Ideally, a geoPaint viewer could view converted (.cvt) geoPaint files, since most of the people who need such a program don't have GEOS in the first place. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 26 Mon Mar 08, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 22:45 EST re: geoPaint native mode viewer. Good reason Rob! I remember seeing one that worked (I think) on the C64. I haven't tried it for quite some time, so I don't know much about it. Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 27 Wed May 05, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 03:12 EDT re: Reentering GEOS. Sorry that it took so long getting back, but I "forgot" about my questin. I tried it, and it did not work. I did,however, find two programs on Q-Link, but only for the 64. One is for exiting geos, the other is for reentry into geos. It works, but only on the 64 version of geos. I don't remember the names, but if any of you would like to examine it and rewrite it, I'll upload it here. David. ----- ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 28 Thu May 06, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:36 EDT There are also good programs for exiting and re-entering GEOS128. For exiting, I humbly suggest my Clean Reset 128 (in the libraries), which will do a clean reset out of GEOS... though it is somewhat slow, since the program is anal retentive about resetting all the drives on your system, which involves accessing each of them twice right now. Takes about 10 seconds to reset on my system with 1 1581 and 1 1571. There is also Jim Collette's NORBOOT which is an autoexec that allows you to thereafter reset the computer to native 128 mode by hitting the 128's reset switch. To get back into GEOS128, I'd recomment the program "Rescue 128", which unlike BSW's RBOOT can succesfully reboot into GEOS even if the drive number configurations are different from what GEOS thinks they ought to be. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 29 Fri May 07, 1993 C128.JBEE at 01:01 EDT Sure, why not :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 30 Fri May 07, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 22:55 EDT I looked at the program which returnes to geos, and made another short program, which after double click on this program from Geos 2.0 the 64 version, it prints "test" on the screen, then sleeps for a while, then returns to geos. when it returns, the clock has only lost a few seconds. (The time it took to load the program then reload GEOS.) Could someone make this work for the Geos128 2.0? Here's the program: 10 poke 644,128:poke 56,128 20 poke 808,234 30 for k=1 to 20:print "test";:next 40 for k=1 to 300:next 50 sys 49708 That's all there is to it for the 64 version. How would I do this for the 128 version. David. P.S. I took these pokes and sys out of a program made by another person so I have no idea what they do or what they are for. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 31 Sat May 08, 1993 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 01:41 EDT David: I'm not a GEOS programmer, but I can tell you a little about the POKES... more if I had my reference manual at hand. The poke to 808 probably is disabling the stop or run/stop restore key combos. The poke to 56 sets top of memory for BASIC programs I believe, and the poke 644 turns repeat on for all keys. These are from memory, and I would have to check my memory maps when I got home. I don't know what the sys does... probably something in the GEOS kernal. The POKEs would be relatively easy to emulate on the 128 side if it is the same as native mode in terms of function. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 32 Sat May 08, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 15:06 EDT Hmm, doing this off of the top of my head, so no guarantees if this works. First, I don't think line 10 is necessary to proper functioning of the 128 re- entry. Again, no guarantees :) Second, if I remember correctly, you will want to replace line 50 with 50 bank1:sysdec("c000") Hope this works... let us know if it does. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 33 Sun Oct 24, 1993 L.VICTORY [FO#1] at 15:29 EDT JBEE, I d/l the GEOStorm conversion prg. and used Convert 2.5 to change to GEOS format. I then tried to convert some Doodle files (DDCeltic EAgle and DDDo Sample from Okimate instruction disk). First time was on a RamLink and all I got was garbage. I had notice that sometimes the 2.5 cvt wouldn't work on R/L so I tried everything on regular disks. Still no go. I get a file but all garbage. You can tell that parts of the picture are there but nothing legible. *mail FO#1 (Larry) ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 34 Sun Oct 24, 1993 C128.JBEE at 16:52 EDT I have used geoStorm to convert pictures and have used Convert 2.5 on my Ramlink, though I have noted that Convert 2.5 will not correctly convert files and exit properly when using Ramlink and drive C. Appears to get confused sometimes. Some prgs do not work properly with gateWay. Did you try to convert the doodles by having gateWay, geoStorm, and the Doodles to convert (to geoPaint) all on the same disk? Did you file copy the source Doodle pictures to the work disk using GEOS or a file copier? You should use GEOS. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 35 Sun Oct 24, 1993 L.VICTORY [FO#1] at 21:15 EDT I copied using GEOS. I don't have GateWay. All the files were on the same partition. Just the Doodles and GEOStorm were on disk when I tried it that way. Thanks for the reply, JBEE:)! FO#1 ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 36 Mon Oct 25, 1993 C128.JBEE at 01:13 EDT You are welcome :) If you are still having trouble, let us know. ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 37 Wed Dec 15, 1993 M.MINNIG at 00:52 EST Is it possible to convert the PrintPower (e.g., Muppet Print Kit, Sesame Street Print Kit) clip art for use in GEOS. So far, I've tried Graphics Grabber with no luck. Help, anyone? Michael ------------ Category 6, Topic 2 Message 38 Thu Dec 16, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 01:48 EST Quite simply, the answer is no. I tried to find some way to do this a few years ago. I talked to some of the top graphics experts on QLink and so on, but I finally got the answewr that the format for those graphics was unique to those programs and no one had figured it out. Steve Vander Ark ------------ ************ Topic 3 Thu Jul 30, 1992 AMFORD (Forwarded) Sub: Mega fonts Looking for LARGE fonts to create signs/posters. 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 3 Message 1 Thu Jul 30, 1992 AMFORD (Forwarded) Looking for some large fonts to be able to make signs (single sheet of paper) like Printshop does. But me, I want to be onery and do it in GEOS and maybe rotate it. Or am I asking to much? ------------ Category 6, Topic 3 Message 2 Fri Jul 31, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) No ... not really, you can do it in geoPublish and rotate it. I had a Geos application once that rotated bitmaps in geoPaint which came in handy. I do not know where I put it though. ------------ Category 6, Topic 3 Message 3 Fri Jul 31, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) Won't NewTools do rotations? Lessee... well, according to the latest ad I have (which is from the Sep 1991 geoMetrix newsletter), it'll rotate by 45 degrees. He may have enhanced it by now. Newtools is by Dave Ferguson, and is published by Quincy Softworks. The address is: Qunicy Softworks 9479 E. Whitmore Ave. Hughson, CA 95326-9745 Newtools is on DweezilDisk 1, which had the price listed (in Sep 1991) as 17.96 (+ tax if you are in CA). You may want to write first to find out if it does arbitrary rotations now (or does anyone know?) -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 3 Message 4 Fri Sep 04, 1992 S.VANDERARK (Forwarded) Rotating a bitmap You can rotate the bitmap with the utility Rotate Pages. I'm not sure if it is available on here, but you can dl it from QLink. Steve Vander Ark ------------ Category 6, Topic 3 Message 5 Wed Jan 27, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) I received the following clarification regarding the use of MegaFonts: From: S.VANDERARK Steve Vanderark To: HOWIE-CBM Howie Herman Sub: MegaFonts Your description of megafonts is essentially correct, but a little more information would clarify things. MegaFonts work "automatically" in geoPublish...you simply select 48-point and the program figures out where to find each character. In geoWrite and geoPaint you need the kind of information about where each chrarcter is which you listed. Unfortunately the list you posted wasn't correct. The characters are stored in point sizes 48 through 54, with 54 actually containing information for geoPublish to use in finding the characters it wants. If you are interested in an exact listing of which characters are to be found in which point size (it's always the same) let me know. I keep a list by my Commodore. Steve Vander Ark Compute's Gazette =END= Item 2359233 93/01/23 21:11 From: S.VANDERARK Steve Vanderark To: HOWIE-CBM Howie Herman Sub: Mega fonts I wouldn't mind if you used what I wrote you. Here's the list of characters for the mega-fonts: 48 point: ! " # $ % & ' ( ) * + , . - 49 point: 0 through 9 : ; < = > ? 50 point: A through O @ 51 point: P through Z [ ] underline 52 point: a through o reverse single quote 53 point: p through z vertical bar (what IBM-types call a pipe) tilde { and other non-standard characters 54 point: information for geoPublish; shows up on the screen as garbage You can use these fonts in any GEOS application with certain limitations. Specifically, individual point sizes (not the whole font, mind you) must be small enough to fit in the font buffer of the application in question. Font buffer sizes are as follows: geoWrite: 6144 bytes geoPublish: 4096 bytes geoPaint: 4096 bytes geoPaint 128: 4500 bytes If the font point size is too big, you'll get nothing when you try to type with that font. Steve Vander Ark Compute's Gazette GEOS columnist =END= ------------ ************ Topic 4 Sat Nov 20, 1993 S.EYRSE at 17:43 EST Sub: GeosWrite and Printers infor about write and printer drivers 11 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 1 Sat Nov 20, 1993 S.EYRSE at 17:44 EST While hacking around the other night I came across some info on GeoWrite and the Maverick S.E.(sector editor). I was working on a new printer driver for the HP Deskjet and found out that GeoWrite doesn't used the PrintASCII, StartASCII, SetNLQ functions of the driver. It has code in the program that looks like it will jump there but it never occurs. To check this I changed these positions to a rts in the driver and it had NO effect on how GeoWrite printed. However OTHER applacations make use of this code. Maverick's Sector Editor as a example. So if your writing a driver it should do the ASCII stuff. Now the Maverick S.E. which uses this code has a different "bug". As it was written when the First Printer on the disk was the default that is the one it will load and try to use. I bring this up as there are now OTHER desktops out that will let the printerdriver be anywhere on the disk so you might not get the one you want. Others who are working on programs should keep this in mind. You should have your applacation Load the printer driver by getting the Name from PrntFilename $8465-$8475. ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 2 Sat Nov 20, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 20:40 EST Very sound advice! Thanks! ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 4 Wed Nov 24, 1993 S.EYRSE at 00:30 EST But wait there is more. I just found out that GeosWrite WILL use the NLQ and DRAFT code of your driver..but ONLY if the perm. name in your header is a V2.0 or higher. This is whether it is a Printdriver V2.0...or DeskjetDr V2.1 as long as the version is V2 and up GeoWrite looks for the code. It's just one of those Geos things that isn't writen down anywhere till now. Credit needs to go to Bill Prendergast as he mentions it in the docs for his GREAT LazerMatrix drivers. Which if not here I will up load. However the notes about other applacations is still valid..Enjoy....Air's ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 5 Wed Nov 24, 1993 C128.JBEE at 02:46 EST Now that is a tasty tidbit :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 6 Sun Nov 28, 1993 S.EYRSE at 23:02 EST The other day after hooking back up my Star NX-1000 after a long time of using the HP Deskjet I noticed the following. GEOWRITE for the 64 (don't know about 128) Won't print NLQ although there is a Box for it. It switches the printer into NLQ but the output has NO spaces. The lines just run together. Tab works just no spaces. Has anyone else noticed this or is My copy weird? Anyway I found out where in the program this block happens. I think it is a bug that never was fixed. For when I changed ONE byte from $20 (space) to $21 if works just swell. Which means that the NLQ codes in the printer driver now works the way it should. Infact this now means a driver could be made for the printer with a selection box that would come up after NLQ is picked that would let you select the Three built in fonts or Italic. Elite. ect.ect.. I have desided that if there is enough interest in this I'll build a patch to a) fix the Geowrite for the 64. b) build a driver for the Star to do the above. Just post here if it is wanted or E-Mail me. Also there seems to be some other quirks in Geowrite 2.0 such as the ARROW will JUMP if the following keys are used. LeftShift and ? RightShift and Z C B M > Which if your on the Right side of the page with the ARROW near the left side this will cause the PAGE to JUMP back to the LEFT SIDE. Printing in Draft has spaces but no TABS. anyone else got any? Steve: If the 128 has the same NLQ bug let me know Then I could have someone look to see if the same code is used? ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 7 Mon Nov 29, 1993 C128.JBEE at 00:05 EST I believe geoWrite 128 has the same type of bug, I remember trying to use NLQ before with the Deskjet and being bummed out because it did not have any spaces or formatting in the document. ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 8 Mon Nov 29, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 07:15 EST You might want to check out Textprint file number 7277, Steve. It is a program to print Geowrite files in the printer's resident fonts. There maybe some ideas you can glean from it. The docs also have the address of the author. I don't use the printer's resident fonts, but your patch may change my mind.:D :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 9 Mon Nov 29, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 18:14 EST To continue the discussion of NLQ mode. You have to be sure you use Commodore 10 pt font, and bring down the page menu and click NLQ spacing. This should take care of the spacing problems ( I won't say most instances) When I do this I don't usually have any problems. I'm using a Panasonic KX-P1180 printer with a Super Grapix interface. I've used all the resident fonts in the printer, and they all work equally well. I don't use this much, so I probably don't incounter the problems a regular user would. :) -Tim incounter=encounter ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 10 Tue Nov 30, 1993 S.EYRSE at 01:31 EST Forgot about that NLQ spacing..what I have found out SO FAR is by changing the one byte you can get NLQ with Tabs and spacing IF you use a "font" that is say 24 ppoints you get DBL. spacing. Thi This would mean you could by the use of the Fonts change the line spaces in a doc. as you wanted.. Start out single go to DBL and back..But perhaps write will let you do this already.. I look The strangest part of all of this is Write uses the same part of the program to print to the screen in WYSWYG as to send NLQ to the printer.. Those old BSW folks just trying to save code. Which is where the "trade off" must have come. So I'll hack around a little bit more Then send the patch up for those who want it...JBEE if you have a 1581 Tool Kit from Software Support use it to look on the disk with GeoWrite 128 See if you can find the following code. $68,$AA,$E0,$20,$D0,$1F if it is there use the editor to change the $20 to $19 (do this on a copy) you should then be able to use NLQ the way it was ment to be. :) Let me know. ------------ Category 6, Topic 4 Message 11 Sat Dec 04, 1993 S.EYRSE at 20:13 EST /o I> / | Me out in left field on this. :) The deal is..GeoWrite 2.+ WILL print in NLQ. IF..the printer driver is V2.+ in the HEADER. IF..the printer driver is Really set up for NLQ. (some just have a return [rts] for NLQ). IF..the document you want to print is set to NLQ spacing AND has been set to Commodore 10pt. type or one that is similar. The point size in the important thing here not the font. Then you get NLQ spacing the same as the doc. Tabs, right jusft. all work..Use a font that is bigger and you will not get this. So no patches or anything..How ever there could be some drivers out there that while they have the NLQ ability won't work because they don't have the right code in the HEADER itself..This would be Changed by useing the Header Editor listed in our libs here. Making the permanent name a V2.0. This needs to be at spaces 13,14,15,16. see below. THIS IS THE V2.0 1234567890123456 As GeoWrite looks for this 2 or above when it loads the driver..if it isn't there then NLQ is not used. I defaults to part of the program that is used to print in draft. I point this all out as there has been, as far as I can tell, no mention of this in anything that deals with GeoWrite. Now that I have found this out it means that drivers can be made to put up a dialog box to let you select Fonts.. Sanserif, Orator, Courier as needed. Of course other features Like bold, italic, ect. won't come on so you will still need to use "feature" drivers like Text Print to do this. But for Q&D print outs in NLQ the font selection might be nice. I'll see about doing one for the Star NX-1000 as this is the one most folks seem to have. Then the HP..just because this is what I use.. Steve :) ------------ ************ Topic 5 Sun Oct 31, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) Sub: Is There A Program to Identify Fonts Used in A GeoPublish Document Available I Find this Problem all the time. Any Help Would Be Welcome . Thanks In Advance Jim 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 5 Message 1 Sun Oct 31, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) The program I use to identify font is Identifont v3.2 file #12466, but unfortunately it is for GeoWrite files. On GeoPublish I add a note in the info box indicating the fonts I use in that pub file. Of course, this doesn't help after the fact.LOL If you find one that does it for geoPub. let me know, I'd like to buy it. Good to see old friends on GEnie. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 5 Message 2 Tue Nov 02, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) When I was looking into the 128 vrs. of FontSwap I found that It had code that pointed to both GeoPaint and GePublish ..So I thought that this might let me get to a FONTLOADER that would work with all three in 128..BUT :( I then across a note that said DON'T use this FontSwap. With Publish as it would crash ..This made me think that Publish must not put the font list in the same place that Write will. Now that I have Publish I can look into it to see what is going on.. BUT FIRST I have three little things I want to finish 1) a driver for the HP deskjet thatWORKS at 300DPI.. 2) a program to print Calc out sideways.. 3) the rear fender on the '31 Model A I just got..:))) But the FontLoader for the 128 is not out of the question. I just got a list of Memory Locations that I needed. Air's :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 5 Message 3 Tue Nov 02, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) I Might be able to help with your Model A I have a Friend that has TONS of parts for those old things.... If you need something Let me know... Maybe we can work out a DEAL...... thanks Jim ------------ Category 6, Topic 5 Message 4 Wed Nov 03, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Thanks Jim..I'm just starting to go thru it ..When I get time a way from this gray box. :)..Let you know if I need anything and you could check with your freind.. Steve ------------ ************ Topic 6 Sun Jul 29, 1990 S.ORTIZ (Forwarded) Sub: GeoBASIC questions Perhaps this can be a place to have questions concerning this decent GEOS program answered. 29 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 1 Sun Jul 29, 1990 S.ORTIZ (Forwarded) While trying to write a program that looks at non-GEOS files, I found out that the command, "DBFILE" will only access GEOS type data. I was wondering it would be possible to access Commodore PRG and SEQ files. Anyone have an easy way to get at these things using GeoBASIC? Perhaps another way to get around this would be to place some kind of header at the front of the binary file that would cause the DBFILE command to work and then strip off the GEOS header before using the data. Can anyone tell me how I could do this? I hope there is someone out there who knows what the heck I'm talking about. Well, thanks in advance for any help.... Sam ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 2 Tue Aug 07, 1990 D.LARIVEE (Forwarded) S.ORTIZ, The command that you want to use is HEADER. You will find this command in your manual on page 60. Place the HEADER one line before your DBFILE command line and as it says in the manual, you will get the file type you are looking for. It defaults to BASIC DATA without the HEADER command. To get non-GEOS files, use a 0 (zero) as the last parameter of the HEADER command string. (HEADER 3,"",0) You should get the non-GEOS sequential files. As the manual suggests elsewhere, don't add to sequential files as GeoBasic doesn't handle sequential files very well when it is trying to write to them. If you are trying to write to them, I would read the sequential file and write out a VLIR file type then you wouldn't need the sequential data anymore. Hope this helps. Happy Computing. Don ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 3 Tue Aug 07, 1990 D.LARIVEE (Forwarded) By the way, All GeoBasic users and potential GeoBasic users. Don't let the manual fool you, GeoBasic runs fine on the 128 in 40 column mode. I tried changing it to work 80 column but that didn't work out too well. You don't even need to change it to work on thte 128, just boot up the 128 GEOS and double click on GeoBasic or Basic Grabber. They both work fine. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 4 Thu Aug 16, 1990 D.LARIVEE (Forwarded) I have been looking over some other GEOS information and I may have given some bad information on the HEADER command for the answer to the first question. The GeoBasic manual only identifies file types 1 thru 14 in its discussion of the HEADER command. There are actually file types 0 through 15. File type 0 is a non-Geos (or pre-geos) PRG, REL, SEQ, or USR file type. In other words, a non-geos sequential file created with a non-geos program is a file type 0. Therefore, if you use the command HEADER0,"",0 You should be able to read Commodore Sequential files. Of course this is assuming GeoBasic will allow you to use the 0 in the first parameter of the HEADER command. Hope this helps. Don ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 5 Fri Aug 17, 1990 W.HATCH (Forwarded) I live out here in the sticks and have a hard time finding GEOS products. I had heard that GeoBasic was discontinued...but now I find a topic concerning it. Where do I find it, and how much is it? Any help would be appreciated. Thanx... ----====> Belgarion <====---- ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 6 Sun Aug 19, 1990 WC.COLEMAN [*Sysop*] (Forwarded) BSw shelved geoBasic two years ago. RUN magazine bought the distribution rights from them. To order a copy (I forget the exact price - I think it's $39.95) simply call RUN at 1-800-343-0728. If you don't have a credit card call them anyway to get the exact price and then send a check or money order to: RUN Special Products 80 Elm Street Peterborough, NH 03458 ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 7 Wed Aug 29, 1990 D.LARIVEE (Forwarded) I have discovered why the GeoBasic manual says that it will only run under the 64 version. GeoBasic will work fine under the 128 Kernal with one exception. When you are ready to make application, you will have to boot up a 64 version of GEOS. With the 128 version, it will appear to make the application ok but when you double click on the application, you get a disk load error. Making the application with GEOS 64, then using the application with a 128 version, the application works fine. I didn't even have to change the byte on the header block. BUMMER: It won't work on the 80 column mode, only 40 column. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 8 Thu Aug 30, 1990 WC.COLEMAN [*Sysop*] (Forwarded) Hmmm, the applications I made on the 128 work fine for me. Interesting. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 9 Tue Oct 16, 1990 J.ZAAGMAN at 19:36 EDT So can you write 80 col programs for Geos 128? Not using the sprites or anything but applications and such? Just wondering......PIZZOID ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 10 Wed Oct 17, 1990 D.LARIVEE at 21:36 PDT Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to write a program for the 80 col side of GEOS 128 using GeoBasic. If someone else has, I sure would like to know what I have to do to make it work. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 11 Thu Oct 18, 1990 WC.COLEMAN [Sysop] at 04:18 EDT While you can switch the machine into 80 column mode with a CALL, GB's graphic routines will give a ILLEGAL QUANTITY error if you try to draw past 319. Believe me, 80 column stuff was the first thing that I tried to do! :( -WC ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 12 Thu Oct 18, 1990 J.ZAAGMAN at 19:45 EDT So you would have to use Flagsetter (By RED STORM) to make it run in 80 col but it will be on 1 side of the screen........... Guess I gotta go learn ML now.......I dont see the point to write 40 col programs for Geos 128, I'm sure there are alot of reasons to though. PIZZOID ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 13 Wed Dec 26, 1990 G.WILKERSON1 at 22:19 EST ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 14 Wed Mar 06, 1991 R.ROMINE1 at 00:09 CST Bugs & geoBASIC: While geoBASIC is great, it does have a few really annoying bugs. The main (and it could be the only one) is the way it loses lines. This bug appears to be related to the UPDATE command. Don't use it! It appears that UPDATE will *permanantly* corrupt a file. Instead, RUN the file,which will automatically update the file; then use CLOSE or QUIT. NEVER use UPDATE. If a file has already been updated by UPDATE, it is corrupted, and cannot be uncorrupted. The bug appears to happen after UPDATE finishes updating the file, when the file is CLOSED. However, using RUN then CLOSE/or QUIT appear safe. So the UPDATE command, itself, may not corrupt the file, but instead may leave something unfinished, or a pointer mis-directed. Until the bug is sqashed, RUN instead of UPDATE'ing. You can then use CLOSE or QUIT, or reset the computer. My info comes from someone that is working with geoBASIC, and trying to locate the bugs. Ron. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 15 Mon Apr 15, 1991 R.YU at 20:04 EDT Hi I left a question in catagory 1. Could you check it out and see if you can help me? I'd be grateful:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 16 Tue Apr 16, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 03:58 EDT I have left email with the file number and Lib (35) where you can find Convert 2.5. If you are still having trouble please leave a extended message detailed your problems. ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 17 Fri Sep 20, 1991 C.AMEZAGA [THE SMEE] at 00:05 EDT Howdy Folks, I'm the GeoBasic Rep for RUN Magazine. Just to let you know I'm Also online here and not just on Quantum Link. I can be Reached on Quantum as GeoBascRep. Yeap, no "I" in that handle. Also if you would care to leave E-Mail to me Here on GEnie, you can either send it to the above address or send it to GeoBasic. GeoBascRep also works as an Address here on GEnie. Either way, I will get the mail. Any Question?? Ask away... :) Take care.... Carlos ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 18 Fri Sep 20, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 05:36 EDT Can you write a geoBasic program so it can setup and load in a picture, print it, load another one, print it, and so on. Maybe with switching of the drive paths so you could print out an 80 page manual? And then make multiple copies with a simple for next loop? It would also be nice if you could write something that makes multiple printouts of Geopaint files. I have a new book coming out and I would like to be able to print them on demand (vs xeroxing which makes it looks muddy) by printing out the geoPaint pictures one after another. From the previous messages I take it that certain demands do not work in 80 columns, you could load and print a graphic from 80 columns couldn't you? ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 19 Fri Sep 20, 1991 C128-BILL [Bill] at 08:00 EDT Welcome to the FlagShip, "The Smee" ! I would rather use the Bulletin Board here, for questions so that all can share (and learn). :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 20 Fri Sep 20, 1991 H.HERMAN1 at 08:59 EDT How nice! Since I'm just starting out (a late-comer to geos), I am gonna have tons of questions for you. :) NOW I know who to turn to for help. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 21 Sat Sep 21, 1991 C.AMEZAGA [GeoBasic] at 02:52 EDT Quoting -- C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] on Fri Sep 20, 1991 Can you write a geoBasic program so it can setup and load in a picture,print it, load another one, print it, and so on. End Quote Well, so far what has been done on GeoBasic is the loading of Doodle Files. The Doodle Format can be Loaded to screen in a Snap. A GeoPaint file is another story however. GeoBasic is not equipped with the file handling neccessary to view or even display a GeoPaint file. Remember even though GeoBasic may work on a 128, it does not support it 80 Colomn Resolution. Now I'm not saying you coudn't view a GeoPaint file from GeoBasic, but it sure would take some programming. Quote --- From the previous messages I take it that certain demands do not work in 80 columns, you could load and print a graphic from 80 columns couldn't you? End Quote --- At this time we are limited to Screen Dumps therfore printing a graphics at 80 Colomns is not possible. It may take ML Skill to be able to do something like that from GeoBasic. One thought though. If you think that a GeoPaint picture printed from a Dot Matrix Printer and copied comes out bad on paper, why not use Jim Collette's Postscript Patch. You can Cut an Entire GeoPaint Page(The File is here somewhere) and then pasted it in GeoPublish. Then you use a patched copy of GeoPubLaser and turn that GeoPublish Document to postscript. Then get this Postcript file to your nearest DTP Shop and have it printed. Localy that would cost me a Buck for printing out one Page on an Adobe Laser printer. The Result is a Super sharp and clean Picture, which will come out crystal clear on every copy on a Xerox machine. Only a thought though. :) Quoting C128-BILL [Bill] on Fri Sep 20, 1991 Welcome to the FlagShip, "The Smee" ! I would rather use the Bulletin Board here, for questions so that all can share (and learn). :) End Quote Thanks Bill, Glad to be onboard. ;) I also prefer for Questions to be posted as well. That way I don't lose it by mistake. :) Seriosly Folks, I do prefer for Questions to be posted that way all can Benifit from the Answer and the Questions themselves. Quoting --- H.HERMAN1 on Fri Sep 20, 1991 Since I'm just starting out (a late-comer to geos), I am gonna have tons of questions for you. :) NOW I know who to turn to for help. End Quote Shoot away, Clearing out my buffer and waiting for it :) Carlos ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 22 Sat Sep 21, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 05:06 EDT Okay, I guess I will skip GeoBasic for now. It is a good suggestion about Geopublish, but to be honest if it doesn't run and work in 80 columns I am not interested in using it for whatever reason. That's just me :) I can suffer with a 40 column screen displayed on the 80 though. The reason for doing all this is I want to do it myself. Besides being much cheaper and quicker it is also more fun that way :) I will have at least a HPiii and probably a QMS postscript printer soon. Maybe I will just write (or have someone write it for me) a utility to convert a Geopaint to a PCL-5 file so they canbe dumped from native mode with a batch program. If I get the Postscript I will use Jim's patch to save the file to disk and print it out from native mode. Oh well, doesn't hurt to ask and hope! ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 23 Sat Sep 21, 1991 C.AMEZAGA [GeoBasic] at 10:35 EDT Sure it Doesn't hurt to ask.. The Only way we ever get answers. :) Carlos ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 26 Sun Oct 31, 1993 CBM-YLR.ROSE at 16:29 EST LV.. um.. your message was all garbled and couldnt be understood.. all we can see is that you are having trouble with a geowrite file??? Please post again. Hugs! ------------ Category 6, Topic 6 Message 27 Mon Nov 01, 1993 H.HERMAN1 at 01:39 EST huh? Looks perfectly fine to me. Just another entry in the Halloween Ascii Art Contest? :/ Howie ------------ ************ Topic 7 Tue Mar 05, 1991 C128.JBEE at 06:13 EST Sub: Geopaint file format I need to know more about the Geopaint file format. 15 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 1 Sun Nov 15, 1992 M.BARNETT4 [BUBBA] at 15:01 EST I would like to be able to convert from Amiga files to Geopaint. Specifically I have B&W and color digitized pics I would like to convert. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance. Bubba ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 2 Sun Nov 15, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 18:01 EST Besides the text in the earlier part of this message, file #5342 might be of help. It is a text file on the geoPaint format. It has been awhile since I sold my Amigas but I believe there is a basic program on your utilities disk (the 3rd one with Basic on it) that will allow you to load IFF files and save them to an uncompressed bitmap. Here is what I suggest Uncompress the IFF files into straight bitmaps (if you are not going to attempt moving the color into Geos I suggest grayscaling by using ditherings). Then compress the raw bitmaps with LHA. Get them to a C-128 disk and uncompress the files as you need them. This will save a lot of time and disks! Convert them to Basic 8 format. I have a Geos utility to convert Basic 8 pictures 640x400 B&W to Geos. I might have a color version later. I will most likely release the B2 <-> Geos version on a TC-128/64 disk. Are you going to be uploading these here as PD? If you let me know the whys and hows, there are probably already tools ready for you to use, unless you want to do your own. ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 3 Sat Nov 21, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:02 EST What might be the easiest way to convert IFF ILBM's to geoPaints is to use one of the number of image file format converters on the Amiga (HamLa Plus is one, the demo of which does up to 512x512 images and is freely distributable) to convert the IFF file to a GIF, and then use the shareware GEOS program geoGif. Hmm, probably I ought to write an ILBM to geoPaint converter... that'll have to be a project someday after I write my 8svx to Zounds converter. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 4 Sat Nov 21, 1992 M.BARNETT4 [BUBBA] at 09:26 EST Sysop & Rob Yes this is definately a PD exercise. With the power of an Amiga it is very easy to digitize, and I thought it would be neat to be able to play with digitized pics in Geopaint. It doesn't cost me anything to digitize photos I already have and upload them. How big of a file will Geopaint take? What is basic 8? Thanks for the reply Bubba ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 5 Sun Nov 22, 1992 C128.JBEE at 02:48 EST A geoPaint is 640x720, the Handyscanner can do a 640x800 (with the Pagefox) capture, and Basic 8 can handle any mono image of 64k. The 64K image can be up to 2040h or 819v. You can exceed the vertical length though it means cutting down on the width of the screen < 80 characters. It you want to get fancy under Basic 8 you can display 720+h x 600+v using interlace mode. ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 6 Sun Jan 10, 1993 M.BARNETT4 [BUBBA] at 22:40 EST A while back I wrote looking for a file to convert Amiga IFF or HAM pics to Geos. I think I have a Amiga to GIF converter if that is necessary. I either lost the name of the conversion file (or never found one) any help would be useful. Also it is true that the A64 pacage from Questronix has Amiga to 64 and 64 to Amiga conversion files. They work quite well. So does de-arcing files (I haven't tried compressing them yet). Thanks for the help, Bubba ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 7 Mon Jan 11, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:31 EST Right now, probably your best bet for doing the conversion is to convert the IFF or HAM files to GIF using whatever Amiga utility you have, and then use the excellent geoGif program by Randy Weems (did I get your name right, Randy?) to convert the pictures to geoPaint files. One thing about geoGif: you lose all of the color. However, the results are quite nice because geoGif dithers the images to give it a greyscale look which, depending on the colors in the original image, can preserve much of the quality of the original image. In principle, it is no harder to convert IFF files, and only slightly harder to convert HAM files, to geoPaint dithers in the same manner as GIFs. Perhaps Randy could be convinced to expand geoGif in this manner.... -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 8 Wed Jan 13, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 19:54 EST I remember uploading a Amiga IFF to geoPaint converter to Canada Remote Systems a while back. The only problem with this program is that it will ONLY convert NON-compressed IFF files. If you can remember the old Mac to geoPaint converter, it never compressed the geoPaint file while converting, which is why the file was always so large. Maybe this is the same type of thing that could happen with Amiga IFF files. (?) I'll double check this tonight. If the program does what I think it does, I'll upload it. Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 9 Thu Jan 14, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:17 EST Wow... not compressing the geoPaint files can make a BIG difference in the size of the files! geoPaint has a sort of hyper-RLE compression format that works quite will (a little better than normal RLE on the average). And, the format is straightforward enough that it really isn't too hard to decompress the files. The Hitchhiker's Guide has some code that will compress a _linear_bitmap_, in the "Garphics Routines" chapter. The core of this could be used to compess geoPaint files, though it would need to be modified since geoPaint files are sorted by card (just like the display on a C64 or 40 column C128 screen), whereas a linear bitmap is sorted like the 80 column C128 screen. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 10 Thu Jan 14, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 19:06 EST I just checked on CRS, and I made a mistake. The file I was thinking of converted Amiga UNcompressed monochrome IFF files to Basic 8. JBEE mentioned this program, along with another one that converted Basic 8 pictures to geoPaint. Two steps, but it should work. :) The message was in: CAT 6, TOPIC 7, message #30. Rob, where can I get the Hitchhiker's Giude? Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 11 Thu Jan 14, 19 93 C128.JBEE at 23:13 EST I know the original IFF to Basic 8 converter for monochrome images was a program published in a past TC-128 article. All you really have to do is strip off the header from one file and paste another one in its place. ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 12 Fri Jan 15, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:54 EST Alex- Last I checked, which was a few months ago, you could get the Hitchhiker's Guide by sending $25 to GeoWorks in Berkeley. They will mail you a stack of xeroxed pages which is the text of the Guide. If you live thereabouts, you can just drop by and ask for it. My parents live up there, so a few years ago when I was up visiting I just went to the Center & Shattuck office and picked up the Guide. I don't know if they still do this, though I expect that they do, for they have been a very nice company for one that's more or less abandoned the 64/128. Jim Collette is the one who'd know for sure, though he doesn't get around here much nowadays, and it's been a few months since I heard from him on Internet or elsehow. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 13 Mon Oct 04, 1993 CBM-YLR.ROSE at 13:28 EDT well, I have a question please.. since I am only just now starting to try and use GeoPaint.. I need to know how to make a photoscrap from an existing geopaint file. I tried the edit, copy, cut and paste but it doesnt seem to do anything. Please give me a step-by-step on this. I need a photoscrap file to use with Jim Kolb's latest Geos release. (G). Hugs ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 14 Mon Oct 04, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 17:54 EDT Rose, you need to 'rubberband' the area you want to turn into a scrap. Do that by selecting the tool that looks sort of like a box made from a dotted line. Then you can use the edit/copy function. That will create a scrap file on your drive. ------------ Category 6, Topic 7 Message 15 Tue Oct 05, 1993 CBM-YLR.ROSE at 08:56 EDT ah, okie, Doug.. thanks.. I couldn't figure out which box to click on to do that.. I knew it had to be something like that.. Hugs! ------------ ************ Topic 8 Fri Oct 29, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Sub: Printer Info Question on the Panasonic printers 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 8 Message 1 Fri Oct 29, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) If anyone has a KX-P1124 or perhaps a KX-P1123 printer could you please send here the following Codes from your printer manual. 1B,40 Reset? 1B,55,01 ? 1B,2B,30 ? 1B,2A,27,#,# 180DPI & # is bytes ? 1B,2A,28,#,# 300DPI & # is bytes ? I'm trying to get a driver for this printer converted over to make the HP deskjet print at 300 DPI and a full screen. Not the reduced one you get with LaserJet.Par Thanks: Air's. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 8 Message 2 Sat Oct 30, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) The problem with the Laserjet driver is not the incorrect codes for the 75/150/300 dpi setting but that the driver clips the right hand side of the page for whatever reason. It performs the DPI settings correctly as far as I can tell. I have used the driver on both the Laserjet, Deskjet, and Paintjet and for whatever reason, it just clips the right hand side. The actually code for the bitmap settings are okay as far as I know. Only thing I can think of is when it is setting the low/high numbers for the number of data bytes being passed, the actually count is off. I would look at changing the third byte from the end of the code sequence that sets the number of data bytes to be sent after you set the DPI. ------------ Category 6, Topic 8 Message 3 Tue Nov 02, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) That is why I need the Panosonic codes. With the HP drivers, they all work. But the HP printer can only handle 75 cards wide. Geos is 80 cards wide. So some Write files and All Paint files a cut off at the end. Also the HP printer wants the "data bytes" as ASCII $31,$32,$30. 120 bytes to follow. This driver that I have disemmbled and looked into for the Pano. will print a full page at 360 DPI by adding bytes to the output stream to the printer. As you know the 300DPI for the HP will only give you a VERY reduced print of the page. Handy if you make a lable it the LARGEST font you can and them PRINT DOWN. Looks great.. But with the price of these printers coming down. (I think HP is getting ready to come out with something new) More may be getting them for use with their system thus the need for a BETTER driver. I'm real close and this information on the code would really help. Thanks.. Steve. :) *l ------------ ************ Topic 9 Fri Oct 29, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Sub: Programing Tip this is info on one use of Disassembler 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 9 Message 1 Fri Oct 29, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Here is a Geos trick for use with the Disassembler Program. Which IF not here I will upload next. This program takes apart Geos Files so you can see how they are made. It ends up as a GeoWrite file. The "hangup" is with the VILR files that big Geos programs are made up of. Disassembler will let you take the modules apart BUT it has no way of knowing where they should fit in the main program. So it just gives a ?$0400 location to the first and so on. Now if you use a T&S editor like the Mavrick S.E. you can find the list of track and sectors for the various modules. Write it down. Then use your copy of the Disassembled Main program. Note: Disassembler will give the file , each time, PROGRAM NAME/A so you need to rename the file to keep it from being overwritten. To find the locations that the Modules are read into. In the Calc program that I'm looking into to make a Sideways printer, it is a group of program lines that GotoFirstMen. Then it loads the number of the mod. 1,2,ect.sets up r7 to the buffer THIS IS THE LOAD ADDRESS then ends up at a ReadFile. This brings in the module. So..now you have the Track and Sector of the file and the Load to address. Using the Maverick S.E. once more change a Text or Calc scrap Header so it points to the Load address and its Dir entry points to the T & S of the module you want. Disassemble THIS scrap and it will list the program part with the CORRECT hex locations. It sounds like a lot of work but isn't it goes rather fast and lets you really see how a program works. You then can use Berkly tricks to make smaller and faster programs. After I'm all done I'll upload the Code for the geoCalc program so those who want can see how it was written. ------------ ************ Topic 10 Sat Jun 15, 1991 D.BENADON at 20:23 EDT Sub: GeoPublish Big Question....Can you run Geopublish in 128 mode? If so, is it in forty or eighty col? 39 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 1 Sun Jun 16, 1991 H.HERMAN1 at 04:28 EDT I'm pretty sure that all of the GEOS applications run under geos128 in 128 mode. I'm not sure about the screen column size, however, so one of the GEOS experts will have to tackle this one. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 2 Sun Jun 16, 1991 JIM.COLLETTE at 12:44 EDT geoPublish runs fine under GEOS 128 mode, in 40 columns. It doesn't run in 80. Most all GEOS software can be run under GEOS 64 or GEOS 128 40 columns with the exception of 64 stuff that accesses the 64 ROMs. geoCalc and geoFile both do this and hence they have separate 128 versions. Everything else, though, will almost always run fine under GEOS 128 40 cols. Many of the newer programs will run in any mode... 64 or 128, 40 or 80. I personally try to make as much of my stuff run in 80 columns as possible, just because I do all my programming in 80 columns (the stuff assembles twice as fast) and I hate switching modes to test something out! Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 3 Sun Jul 07, 1991 D.BENADON at 11:26 EDT Just wanted to say thank you for the help. I will give Geopublish a shot! ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 4 Wed Apr 01, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 13:58 EST I just got a letter from a customer saying that Laser Direct has gone out of business. He is looking for someone who has a laser printer and postscript that he can send his C128 geoPublish disks to for publishing. Any suggestions? ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 5 Thu Apr 02, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:39 EST Hmmm.... that's too bad that Laser Direct is dead. The one suggestion I might have is a somewhat roundabout way, but might be possible. There are desktop publishing places around that will take (typically) Mac documents and laser print them. A C128 owner might be able to take advantage of this as follows. First, get Jim Collette's PS.PATCH (I think it is in the FlagShip libraries). This will patch geoLaser and geoPubLaser to write PostScript files rather than to print the file directly to a Laser Writer. These PostScript files could then be transferred to a "universal" format, i.e. MS-DOS format, with the Big Blue Reader. Take the MS-DOS disk with the PostScript file in to one of these desktop publishing places that suppot MS-DOS; they should be able to print a PostScript file. In my experience, one needs to add a "%!" at the beginning of the file in order to succesfully print on a PostScript equipped HP Laserjet III. This could be done with a text editor on an MS-DOS system, or with somthing like Pocket Writer 2 or ZED (although I don't know how the latest release of ZED will handle the many >>80 character lines you get in a geoPublish PostScript file). The PostScript that comes out of geoLaser or geoPubLaser is already in standard ASCII, so do not do any conversion on it. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 6 Mon Apr 13, 1992 A.NIELSEN1 at 22:35 EDT I can print your GeoPublish documents Phone 307-674-6085 after 5 p.m. MDT ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 7 Tue Apr 14, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 18:32 EDT Do you do this as a business? If so sent me a flyer so I can pass it onto my customer. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 8 Tue Sep 01, 1992 M.DUNCAN7 at 00:27 EDT Beware-GeoPack is dangerous to GeoPublish files. As I finished my monthly user group newsletter I would use GeoPack to group all the text,font and GeoPub master file in one large file. Later I used GEoPack to unpack one of these files only to discover that when I tried to boot the main GeoPub file for that month it had been corrupted and caused the system to crash and lock up. I do not remember what the system error near # was but I can find out. Any one have a similar experience? How can I recover my GeoPub files??? ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 9 Tue Sep 01, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 01:08 EDT I have only tried it with geoPaint files and they came out okay. But then again it wasn't a huge file either. For what it is worth, we don't allow uploads of any type of Lynx or Library files. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 10 Tue Sep 01, 1992 F.OGLE [Fred Ogle] at 18:22 EDT Why aren't ".lbr", or libraried files allowed? - I always considered library the most dependable archival format available! ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 11 Tue Sep 01, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 19:33 EDT Because if you are going to group files you might as well compress them. Especially if the group of files total over 200+ blocks. When you can compress files 30%-50% why not do it? Also you would have trouble convincing me to use any type of .lbr or .lnx file on my harddrive where they get to play around with sectors and tracks. You are not locked into using 1541/71 drives. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 12 Wed Sep 02, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:03 EDT I don't know that .arc and .lzh are any less dependable than library or lynx files. The only advantage of the latter two would be that if the de-archive program can't handle it, if you know the format yourself, you can go in with a sector editor and tortuously dissolve the archive yourself. I'm not sure this is really practical for large files, though. In fact, I've found .lbr and .lnx files to be a pain (especially .lnx files) because there are a number of different formats out there, and only some of the LYNX utilities you find will dissolve a given .lnx file. .arc and .lzh, on the other hand, are standardized, and you only need one program for each given type, and you can be sure it will be able to dissolve basically all complete archives. Then there's the advantage of the self-dissolving versions of .arc and .lzh, .sda's and .sfx's - and, here, .sfx wins, because the same file can be decompressed on a 128 or a 64. (With .sda's you have to worry about which computer the archive is for.) How do Lynx and Library files deal with XModem padding that ends up on the end of a file? (Which can happen with Xmodem-1K downloads, I understand, due to the screwy way that GEnie pads Xmodem uploads.) With both .arc and .lzh archives, you don't have to worry about it, because the archiver ignores the padding, and no padding ends up in any of the extracted files. Given the padding issues, space and time saving compression, and program standardization, I'd vote for ARC or LHarc over library and lynx any day. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 13 Wed Sep 02, 1992 M.DULSKI1 [Mark @WIZARD] at 00:21 EDT Well said Rob!! ;) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 14 Wed Sep 02, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 08:39 EDT Also the compressions offer checksums to determine if a file is good or not after you download it. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 15 Thu Jul 15, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 21:20 EDT Could someone please tell me what's wrong with my geoPublish? I bought a used geoPublish, and if I run it with the boot disk I got with it, everything runs fine, but if I use the Kernal ID editor, and boot with my original boot disk, I can not use any DA. I tried opening it after I change the Kernal ID, and I can access them without any problems, but if I open geoPublish, then close it, either at once or after doing some work, I can not use them. Even if I change the ID back to the original, it still does not work. But like I said, this is only if I use my Boot Disk. Does any of you know what's wrong, and if there is a easy way to fix it? Thanks David ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 16 Fri Jul 16, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:13 EDT Hmm, I seem to remember having this problem. I don't remember if the problem was associated with changing the Kernal ID or not, since I never used geoPublish after booting with the original boot disk (which was GEOS 1.3, if I remember correctly), but only with my boot disk and using my NewID program. It is _possible_ that something that my KernalID programs is doing is confusing GEOS, but this would surprise me... although I guess it is probably the only rational answer at this point. Curious, which KernalID editing programs are you using? The solution I arrived on was to use geoWizard to run all DA's, since at the time I wasn't running with Gateway. Do other applications other than geoPublish show the same behavior? -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 17 Fri Jul 16, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 20:07 EDT I'm using NewID. At first I thought it was just geoPublish, but then I tried it with other programs, and it happens to all programs, even those that are installed to my boot disk. And it is also doing it while in the deskTop. David ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 18 Sat Jul 17, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 12:29 EDT OK, NewID is my progrm, so I will have to see if I can track this one down. It must be that the ID code is used elsewhere in the system other in the routine GetSerialNumber, which is the only place I am currently aware that it is used. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 19 Sat Sep 18, 1993 R.KING53 [Ron] at 18:06 EDT Can anyone tell me where I can find the LW_Fonts for use with GEOS & a Postscript printer? I have LW_Roman, LW_Zapf, LW_Barrows, LW_Cal & LW_Greek. I believe there are more, but I can't find them in the library. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 20 Sat Sep 18, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 20:34 EDT There are two others, and we'll be putting those up in the next few days. In case you hadn't noticed, the GEOS file area is undergoing some changes, so please bear with us - I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 21 Sat Sep 18, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 22:19 EDT I've just uploaded the 11 LW fonts for GEOS that I have. Filenames are lwfonts1.sfx and lwfonts2.sfx, file numbers 13368 and 13369. (In library #2, of course.) If I run across any more, I will upload them. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 22 Sat Sep 18, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 22:19 EDT Whoops! I hope I haven't messed you up Doug.... ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 23 Sun Sep 19, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 01:36 EDT Don't worry, Ron. You really can't mess Doug up. In his case the damage was done years ago. Steve "It's Late and I should be asleep" Vander Ark ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 24 Sun Sep 19, 1993 R.KING53 [Ron] at 08:56 EDT Thanks Rob! ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 25 Sun Sep 19, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 10:38 EDT Worked out fine Rob... you uploaded them all squeezed together in SFX's, and I uploaded the separate versions. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 26 Fri Dec 03, 1993 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] at 23:54 EST Does anyone know a place to get a good christmas card or just any card template for geopublish. If anyone has one would they please upload it. Thank you. I am getting down to the line with my christmas cards and I would like to use my geopublish because of the flexablity and of all the clip art I have. :) Thanks in advance, for the upload or infomation. Dan :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 27 Sat Dec 04, 1993 CBM-MARK at 01:53 EST I wouldn't think it would be too hard to make a card template. Keep in mind I may not know what I'm talking about since I've never done this ;D Seems to me all you would need to do is divide the page into 4 quadrants and designate the upper right quadrant as the front of the card. The lower left quadrant would be for the inside of the card. On the page the inside part of the card would have to be designed upside down in relation to front of the card so when its printed out and folded it'll come out right. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 28 Sun Dec 05, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] at 00:35 EST I have and will upload Paint as well as publish templates as I've just completed making and sending this years you will have to use paint to make the inside of the card as well as anything you want one the back as these areas are UPSIDE DOWN after folding so you will have to use paint to rotote and set up these areas to inport to geopublish. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 29 Sun Dec 05, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 12:29 EST Here's a good way to set off the card into equal quadrants: go to master pages mode and place a horizontal guide at 5 1/2 and a vertical guide at 4 1/4. You can use the arrow keys to move the cursor one point at a time while you do this. I always use the bottom right box as the front of the card and the upper left as the inside, but you can do it the other way around if you want to. Go to geoPaint to make your upside down picture and text. Create it right side up and rotate it (not mirror flip, mind you, or the text will end up backwards) to an upside down position. Create a photo scrap of that and go back to geoPublish (geoWizard makes this quite a bit quicker). Place the scrap in the correct box. There is a card-making program available called geoPrint that streamlines this whole process. I think Roger Lawhorn has recently started selling it again. Seems to me I saw an advert in a recent Gazette... Steve Vander Ark ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 30 Sun Dec 05, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 21:45 EST Yes, I have a copy of geoPrint, and it does make greeting cards as well as Large posters, banners and smaller posters. Definitely , a program for those folks that do banners,posters, and cards. You have an a lot more control than you have with the PrintShop program, too. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 31 Mon Dec 06, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] at 23:24 EST For those of you running out of time I just uploaded mine from this year. Check it out if you just want ideas for layout ect. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 32 Tue Dec 07, 1993 C128.JBEE at 07:55 EST It will be released in about ten minutes, the bells are very nice, I bet they were scanned :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 33 Fri Dec 10, 1993 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] at 22:52 EST Thanks for the layouts. :)))))) You are a lifesaver!!!! ;) Dan ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 34 Fri Dec 10, 1993 S.EYRSE at 23:06 EST While playing around with GeoPublish I came across a concept that might Help others. I was working on a FAX page so I wanted to use the Master Page to set the "form" and then be able to import the "text" as needed for any fax. I also wanted to use a scanned copy of my bussiness card on it. Every thing was going fine Using MEGA fonts of Suburb for the text. Lots of hassels getting it to fit where I wanted. Then I did a trial print out. JUNK..bad bad stair stepping of the "reduced" font. So here is what I came up with..and it works slick. I used GeoWrite to "type set" the fonts I wanted to use. In the right or left justification that I needed. THEN I used Grabber..Screen Grab V1.0 by Richard Rodin. I got it a long time ago and forgot I had it. It is a DA that will make a scrap from any image on the screen. I couldn't use the fonts in paint as they were to large.. So I grabbed them put them into a album and then just pasted them as graphics into my master page. Which is where I wanted them anyway. There were two that I couldn't get the lettering as Tight as I wanted. So I went into paint..and MOVED them as needed. I also could use the Scaled past to Resize and add extra stuff. I found this to be MUCH faster than trying to do it in Publisher. If Grabber isn't here I'll up load it as it is a very handy DA to have if you work in graphics of make DOCS that need to have a pic of what the screen would look like when using your program. enjoy. Steve :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 35 Fri Dec 10, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 23:40 EST I agree that Screen Grabber is a must have. Unfortunately, it's not public domain or shareware and therefore can't be placed in these libraries! It appeared in Compute's Gazette several years ago and is copyrighted to Compute. I heartily recommend this program to everyone; it (among other things) will let you copy an image in geoPublish and paste it down somewhere else, somthing the regular tools won't do. You will have to send some $$ to Compute for it, however. I'll try to track down the month it appeared so you know what to ask for. Another excellent alternative is a program on Lodestar's GEOS Power Tools disk, which again you'll have to pay for. That da is called GEO_FETCH and it is actually a little easier to use than Screen Grabber. All the tools on that disk are excellent, by the way. Steve Vander Ark ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 36 Sun Dec 12, 1993 S.EYRSE at 01:45 EST Is THAT where I got it..:).. Ah but Steve if a person has the copy of that issue then they can have the program. This was covered once before on line at Q. The purchase of the mag. for the date the program came out gave one use of it. So I'll look back thru my issues to find the date that this was published then everyone who has that issue can DL it. Yes :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 37 Sun Dec 12, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 02:25 EST Sure, and JBEE is in charge of checking everyone's ID at the door :) Steve ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 38 Sun Dec 12, 1993 S.EYRSE at 02:43 EST found it ..It was in the January 1990 compute!'s Gazette. Author Richard A. Rardin but he actualy did the prog. in July of 89 for that is what is on the info block and the way compute "handloaded" these Geos programs that is what HE put. But here is the deal to be fair to b oth the users who need this.. and compute!'s copywrite.. if you just E-mail me what is on page 52 of that ISSUE..then you have a right to the program and I'll attach it to the yes your right answer. Or.. Steve as you have a direct line to Compute! perhaps the would includ it as a re-issue on the new Disk format to make all of us OLD userers feel better about the whole deal. ;) Steve.. ------------ Category 6, Topic 10 Message 39 Mon Dec 13, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 00:13 EST There may be a possibility here...stay tuned. Steve Vander Ark ------------ ************ Topic 11 Thu Oct 28, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Sub: geocalc Lets start talking about Calc now that Kent is out of here. I'll post what I have found other can add. 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 11 Message 1 Thu Oct 28, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Looking into the GeoCalc prgm. I have found out the following .. the prgm put the VLIR file code for it's mod. loads at $4622 the menu jumps start at $14B7 and it uses like most BSW programs ReadFile to bring in the diff Mods to make it work ....All of this is part of my "Try" to get a (sideways) print pgm. for Calc. If anyone has poked around in this app. please let me know. thanks.. Airs :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 11 Message 2 Sun Nov 07, 1993 R.KING53 [Ron] (Forwarded) For me the biggest hangup in GEOCALC is the inability to turn off recalculation. When working with large spreadsheets it REALLY slows down as it recalculates the whole thing as each number is added. ------------ Category 6, Topic 11 Message 3 Thu Nov 11, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) Right and the fact that you can't select where the Cursor will go upon return others let you set up down right or left BUT to fix any or all of these we.. need to find out the code of Calc it self. right now I'm into the printing area BUT if others would start looking into how it treats a (return) we might be able to see how it A) updates..b)advances.. I think dissembler is now live here you might want to get it to take apart the parts that you are wanting to fix. Air's :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 11 Message 4 Sat Nov 13, 1993 M.MINNIG (Forwarded) To get the cursor to move horizontally in geoCalc, highlight the row you're working in. Now each time you press return, the cursor will move to the right one cell. ------------ ************ Topic 12 Sun Oct 24, 1993 J.SZCZAP (Forwarded) Sub: GEOS CONVERTING OF FILES How to use Geos products and files 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 12 Message 1 Sun Oct 24, 1993 J.SZCZAP (Forwarded) Does anyone know how to convert a Geos file to Geos format??? I have tons of Geos pictures and a Goes converter. I don't know how to use none of them !!! HELP!!! ------------ Category 6, Topic 12 Message 2 Mon Oct 25, 1993 CBM-YLR.ROSE (Forwarded) JS.. are you trying to convert Geos files to CBM format so you can upload them, or are you trying to convert them from CBM format back to GEOS (which means you downloaded them from somewhere, like here) so you can view them? If you have Convert2.5 for GEos, then the process is quite simple. If you have never used the Convert2.5 program since downloading it, run it in BASIC mode first.. load and run in BASIC, as it will run and convert itself to GEOS for you! THEN, from GEos mode, dbl click on the Convert icon, and follow the prompts to convert other downloaded files back to Geos format. If you wish to convert GEOS files to CBM format so that you can upload them, then also dbl click on Convert2.5 and follow the prompts. Its all automatic. Hope this helps you! Hugs. ------------ ************ Topic 13 Sun Nov 15, 1992 M.RANDALL2 (Forwarded) Sub: geoSHELL, now taking orders. I have finally finished the program called 'geoSHELL' and will be shipping out the first batch of orders in about 5-7 days. 36 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 1 Sun Nov 15, 1992 PAUL-MB (Forwarded) Maurice, Was going to send you US Mail on this very subject! :) Can you share any details? And how much does it cost? Paul ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 2 Sun Nov 15, 1992 M.RANDALL2 (Forwarded) geoSHELL is the product of much time spent in front of a computer, programming late at night, weekends, and whenever else I could find the time to spend. I am extremely proud of the resulting program and am pleased enough to finally release it to the public. geoSHELL is a command line interface for use with GEOS V2.0 and works in both the 64 mode and 128 mode (40 and 80 columns). It is fully featured with over 50 commands and has the ability to read transient commands from separate disk files. This keeps geoSHELL from never becoming outdated. If you need it to do something it can't do, just write a command for it. It is capable of using 'exec' files to automate many routine tasks. It also supports the CMD devices in a nice way. Perhaps the best support for the CMD devices is the 'path' command. This allows you to have geoSHELL stored in just one partition and nowhere else, saving you a lot of disk space. Whenever geoSHELL is accessed, it is fetched from it's path partition. To order geoSHELL, send $24.95 to: Maurice Randall 215 E. Harris Charlotte MI 48813 Or, you can just send me your name and address and I will mail you a flyer with additional info about geoSHELL. Thank you, Maurice Randall p.s. The price of $24.95 includes free shipping to the 48 states. Add $4.00 for C.O.D. if desired. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 3 Mon Nov 16, 1992 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) And I might mention that it indeed lives up to Maurice's description. Very well done. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 4 Thu Dec 10, 1992 M.RANDALL2 (Forwarded) Good News! I've finally finished the manual for geoSHELL and got the initial orders filled. If you have placed an order for geoSHELL, it has been shipped out by U.S. Mail today on 12/10/92. Anybody placing an order for geoSHELL will be able to get prompt service on filling the order now that everything is in place. I've had orders waiting for as long as 5 or 6 weeks now, and to all those who have been patiently waiting, Thank You. Anybody wishing to place an order for geoSHELL, the cost is $24.95. This price includes shipping and handling to anywhere in the U.S. and Canada. For overseas shipping the cost is an additional $5.00 for a total of $29.95. For C.O.D. shipments in the U.S., add $4.00. Orders can be sent to: Maurice Randall P.O. Box 606 Charlotte MI 48813 Ph: 517-543-5202 Or if you would like more info on geoSHELL, E-Mail your name and address and I will send you a flyer describing some of the features of geoSHELL. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 5 Wed Feb 17, 1993 I.HORE [Ian] (Forwarded) Hi Maurice... Just wandering if the next version of geoShell is being shipped. The one mentioned in the letter with geoShell version 2.0 that changes the fcopy and mcopy commands... EXCELLENT... desktop TTYL... Ian ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 6 Fri Mar 05, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 01:41 EST I've finished the upgrade and myself and a couple others have been testing it for about a month now. In fact I've held off shipping a few orders in hopes of shipping this latest version to those who have orders waiting. But I think I'll go ahead and fill all the orders anyway since I want to make sure that there are no problems with the latest version. Everybody who has already ordered or received geoSHELL will get a free copy of this latest version just as soon as I am ready to release it. Also, anybody who has been waiting for the last few weeks for their order will be seeing it in the mailbox within the next few days. geoSHELL has been selling quite well and I ran out of manuals. So I had some more printed up and can now fill all orders. Thanks for your patience. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 7 Fri Mar 05, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 17:44 EST Maurice, I am very happy to hear all this good news about geoSHELL! Due in no small part to the good product you have combined with the terrific support you give to it. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 8 Mon Mar 08, 1993 C128.JBEE at 15:10 EST I think your "policy" about bugs and such is the best and bravest I have seen in a while. Consider this your support topic (since I do not want to move it to a non-Geos area yet) and post it here. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 9 Mon Mar 08, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 22:45 EST Does geoShell support the RamLink? If so, using native mode partitions? Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 10 Thu Mar 11, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 00:59 EST geoSHELL supports CMD's devices extensively. There was no way I was going to leave these products out in the cold! You can even send DOS wedge commands to your HD or RamLink just like you would with JiffyDos. As an example, if you type '@$=p', you would get a partition directory with the added advantage that you can double click on one of the partitions and it will be opened. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 11 Fri Mar 12, 1993 A.BURGER [Alex Burger] at 22:16 EST re: CMD support Great! Could you please re-post the ordering info, or tell me which message the info was in? Thanks. Alex ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 12 Sat Mar 13, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 00:12 EST You can find ordering info in message number four of this topic. I will also send a flyer to anyone who leaves me E-Mail with an address. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 13 Tue Mar 16, 1993 B.ENNIS1 [Torby] at 02:36 EST Can user groups get demonstration copies of this program? ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 14 Wed Mar 17, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 00:11 EST I've sent out a few freebies so far, but obviously I can't afford to send out 300 or so like that. I wish I could, so that every Commodore club could see the program. What would a club be willing to pay for a 'real' copy of the program? I would be willing to sell one copy at a reduced price of $15.00 if it was used to show it to other members in the club and not for any other purpose. Of course, someone would have to end up with it, since it would be illegal to put it in a club's library. So, in that case, each club could show it off at a meeting and then give it away in a raffle. The raffle would help pay for the program. What do you think? ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 15 Wed Mar 17, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 00:17 EST Maurice, Maybe you could make a demo that just shows each of the commands and gives a dummy display for what the commands do when issued... then you could upload that, and there's a good chance it might show up on some of the disk magazines around (like LS or gVI). ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 16 Wed Mar 17, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 20:27 EST Ok, I might go ahead and do that. But first, I've got to spend the next week working on filling some orders that are piling up. Between geoSHELL and Invoice Writer II, shipping keeps a guy pretty busy. Anybody that has been waiting for an order, please accept my apologies. I would say that I will be caught up with orders within 2-3 days. If you've been waiting, thanks for the patience. Maurice Randall ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 17 Wed Mar 17, 1993 C128.JBEE at 23:22 EST Okay, I will fall for it. What is Invoice Writer II? ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 18 Thu Mar 18, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 04:07 EST Maurice, Can you tell us a bit about Invoice Writer II. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 19 Thu Mar 18, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 22:37 EST Invoice Writer II is an enhanced version of Invoice Writer. I wrote this program a few years ago ( the original version ) and it first appeared in LoadSTAR 66. There is a shareware version of it on Q-Link, but that one contains a few bugs, but nothing terrible. The program is basically a sales invoicing program intended for any small business. It is customizable with many features. It can save your finished invoices to disk after printing. It can also save your sales records to disk and will store approximately ten years worth of sales records on your work disk (or more if you use bigger drives than a 1541). The program is for 64 mode only (not GEOS), however I have a version that I have started working on for GEOS, 64 and 128, but they may be awhile before they are ready. Version 2.6 of Invoice Writer II is the current version and the latest release was just in January of this year. I well as any other I write for as long as I live. Invoice Writer II sells for only $10.00 including shipping and comes with a 40+ page printed manual. Ideal for any small business or any home-based business. I'm surprised to see all the different types of businesses that have purchased this software from me. Anything from locksmiths, to lawn and garden shops, to software stores, hardware stores, etc. There are still a lot of 64's being used for purposes like this. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 20 Thu Mar 18, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 22:40 EST I forgot to add that if you have the December '92 issue of Compute Gazette, you can read a review of Invoice Writer II by Steve VanderArk. Steve gave me a pretty decent write up. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 21 Thu Mar 18, 1993 C128.JBEE at 23:56 EST A bit off topic but if you need small business tools and advice visit "HOSB" on GEnie :) Lots of great text files there! As for Invoice Writer would you mind uploading the shareware version here? I know someone who runs a commercial printing business, top to bottom, using GEOS, geoPublish, and TWS 128. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 22 Fri Mar 19, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 02:33 EST What I will do is upload the 'real' version minus the sales record retrieving capability and the ability to view old invoices. The sales records and old invoices will still be saved to disk, you just won't be able to view them or print them out. Also, the manual won't be there. It is worth the $10.00 just for the manual. But the program is very easy to figure out even without a manual. I'll put together an .sfx file and upload it tomorrow night. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 23 Fri Mar 19, 1993 B.ENNIS1 [Torby] at 04:16 EST I think the $15.00 fee would probably be acceptable. Can you leave me private E-Mail with some details so that I can get our president in touch directly with you? ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 24 Fri Mar 19, 1993 HOWIE-CBM at 04:48 EST Maurice, Well, you are just a bit modest to describe the review of Invoice Writer II, in the December '92 Compute Gazette as being pretty decent. The reviewer, Steve Vander Ark, uses adjectives like: great, and a real gem to describe it. That's several notches better than pretty decent! :) Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 25 Fri Mar 19, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 23:24 EST As requested, Invoice Writer II has now been uploaded to the libraries. You can find it in '64 Software to Go'. It is file #11859. Now that this is done, I suppose JB will want any further messages concerning Invoice Writer II to be directed to another message area. I'll look in category 3 for any further stuff on this topic. Invoice Writer II is not a GEOS program, but runs from the 64's native mode. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 28 Wed Mar 24, 1993 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 01:41 EST Maurice, I received geoSHELL. Works great. I am impressed with all its features. The only problem I've encountered is with 'fcopy'. My system config is as follows: C-64... CMD-RD as device 'A'... 1541 as device 'B'... Gateway Fcopy will not copy from 'B' to 'A'. Works fine from 'A' to 'B'. Seems like it's reading the file from 'B' but unable to write to 'A'. System then locks up. Reub ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 29 Wed Mar 24, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 21:36 EST How is your CMD-RD configured? Is it a RAM1581? ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 30 Thu Mar 25, 1993 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 00:46 EST I am using my RD in the Native mode. I recently tried it using the DeskTop instead of GateWay and it worked ok. I'll keep trying and see what happens... Reub ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 31 Thu Mar 25, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 20:05 EST Did you actually use a native partition with the DeskTop? The DeskTop doesn't really like native partitions. Be careful there. It's possible that you might be having problems with the existing version of geoSHELL's 'fcopy' in your native partition. I've upgraded this command and included it in geoSHELL V2.1 which you and everybody who has bought geoSHELL will get for free. 'fcopy' also has a duplicate mode now which allows you to copy a file on the same disk with a different name. It also copies across partitions properly now. If you run across any other problem, post it here so that I can check it out before releasing V2.1. (post the things you like also!) ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 32 Thu Mar 25, 1993 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 21:41 EST I really don't use the Desktop. I use CMD Gare teway. Was just trying to see if it worked with Desktop.... Post the stuff that I like?...Where do I start?? :) geoSHELL makes everything so easy.... ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 33 Fri Mar 26, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 22:08 EST Just out of curiosity, did you use geoSHELL to get from gateWay to the DeskTop. I assume you used the command 'exit DESKTOP' to do this. If you were to use gateWay without native partitions, just use the kind of partitions that the DeskTop is familiar with... Go into gateWay and set up 'switcher'. Now go to geoSHELL and use it to go to the DeskTop. Then you can use 'switcher' to go back and forth between gateWay and the DeskTop. It's kinda fun to experiment a little. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 34 Sat Mar 27, 1993 R.NEAZER [Reub] at 18:00 EST Never thought of using Gateway and Desktop together. When I tried geoSHELL with Desktop, I configured the RD for Desktop. Don't care for Desktop tho, that's why I got Gateway and geoSHELL. But since you mentioned it, I decided to give it a try. I tried getting to the Desktop from geoSHELL using the 'exit Desktop' cmd., but I got a 'disk error 1:02'. I figured that's because of the Native Part., and I didn't want to re-configure my RD to try the Desktop again. Since I am not going to use it anyway. I'll just be wasting 30Ks of valuable space. Don't need Desktop when there's "geoSHELL":)..... Reub ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 35 Sat Mar 27, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 20:15 EST For those who use gateWay and also have geoSHELL, this makes a neat way to use the DeskTop once in awhile as long as you don't use native partitions. This is not saying that there is a problem with native partitions, because there isn't. The problem lies with the DeskTop. It just doesn't like 'em. Actually it wasn't programmed for them. As long as you have the gateWay (and geoSHELL), there is no real need to use the DeskTop. Talking about 'switcher' again, you can use it to have the gateWay in one context and geoSHELL in another. That works pretty good for some uses. One thing that geoSHELL does (or doesn't do) is that it only reads the directory when needed. This is why you don't have to open and close disks like you do with the DeskTop. You can freely remove and insert disks without informing geoSHELL. It doesn't store the directory in memory. ------------ Category 6, Topic 13 Message 36 Tue Oct 26, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 01:10 EDT For those interested in learning more about geoSHELL and other programs written by Maurice Randall, stop in the TUESDAY night chatroom on November 16th.. Maurice Randall will be my guest from 10 to 11:30 p.m. EST. It will be informal at times, and you can get a lot of those questions answered. If you would like an Email reminder let me know. :) -Tim ------------ ************ Topic 14 Mon Nov 04, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Sub: geoFile a couple of questions about if geoFile will work for me. 24 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 1 Mon Nov 04, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Okay, I am "tempted" to consider using geoFile but have a couple of questions that are not apparent in this manual. To says "up to 3000 data records" Does that mean the limit to each file is only 3,000 entries? Can it import data at all? I could not use it if it did not. Does it work in 80 columns? This version (I got it used) says 64 fields is the max. Is there a newer version that supports more? ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 2 Mon Nov 04, 1991 JIM.COLLETTE (Forwarded) Yep, only 3000 entries per file. I think at one time that was a big number, especially back before the 1581, etc. came out and nobody could fit that many on a disk anyway... <g> It does work in 80 columns, but only in the 128 version (and as far as I remember it ONLY works in 80 columns). With geoFile and geoCalc there are separate 64 and 128 versions since they access the ROMs. If it just says geoFile/geoCalc, it's the 64 version - the 128 versions are "geoFile 128" and "geoCalc 128". I think 64 fields is the max... at least if that's what they say it is (there haven't been any updates other than bug fixes). Unfortunately there's also no easy way to import data short of going through a million text scraps. :( John Howard is working on decoding the geoFile data format but so far nobody's figured it out so it's hard to write an importer. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 3 Mon Nov 04, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) It is geoFile 128. I guess without an importer I will skip it. Even with a 3,000 record limit it did look tempting especially in a native mode partition on a Ramlink or HD. I guess I will never know :) What made it look so attractive is the automatic field updates and potential label output. Oh well, another plan up in flames :) Thank you very much for the information ! ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 4 Tue Nov 05, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] (Forwarded) um... uh... At the risk of repeating myself... Pocket Filer2 has an UPDATE feature, and imports and exports data, and prints labels... But then again so does dBASEII. :) Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 5 Tue Nov 05, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Pocket Filer and Superbase are both heavily copy protected and won't boot from a Ramlink or HD. A must for me :) I will be doing Dbase ii later but I need native mode bullet proof stuff because I am only one of three people using the database. The prospect of writing the kind of database I now use, for Dbaseii is a daunting task, one which I am sure you will be able to handle though ;) ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 6 Tue Nov 05, 1991 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) Jim- I have geoFile 64, and just ran a quick test; geoFile seems to run just fine under GEOS128 in 40 columns. Of course, to get GEOS to try to run it, I had to change the byte in the header to say that it is runnable from GEOS128 in 40 columns, but that is easy enough with geoDebugger, or any other sector editor. I did not run a very extensive test. I haven't used geoFile in many months, so I don't remember how to use it. However, I did successfully load in a database that I had created before, change layouts, and page through a few database entries. Are you sure that geoFile uses the ROMs? Where does it use them? I suppose it is possible that with what I did, I never hit the code that swaps in the BASIC ROMs and tries to call them. With geoCalc, it is obvious what part of the ROMs it needs (floating point routines.) Also, is the geoFile file format documented anywhere? It might not be too hard to write a geoFile file importer.... -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 7 Wed Nov 06, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] (Forwarded) Well, speaking of importing files, dBASE, and other things... I *JUST* discovered that as part of my duties as new Treasurer of NYOUG, I have the task of sending out the club's notices of upcoming meetings. No prob I was told. Everything will run from a dedicated dBASE program. Right!! :/ Got the disk with the dbf file. A PC-DOS one. No prob. I've got Big Blue. It's on a DOS disk, because the outgoing Treasurer ran it from his clone. [The club is for Osborne and CP/M users.] Oh, by the way, he upgraded to dBASEIII. The dbf file structure is okey. But, those program modules won't work, since dBASEII cannot read all the dBIII syntax. Oh? Then here, here's the CP/M dBASE program disk used before switching to dBIII. Oh? It may not work. He added a couple of more fields recently, but never bothered to change the CP/M program, since it ran from a clone. Take the disk anyway, it might be helpful... It turned out to be a Morrow. Here too no prob, I thought. I've got Jugg'ler. :/ Getting everything over to the 128's CP/M mode went quickly. A fast read from Big Blue, and then quickie install of Jugg'ler, and everything was in the REU. But... He was right. All those program files were useless with the new structured base. I assessed the options: [1] Run the base from the dBASE "." command, or [2] Modify all those program modules for the new database. Neither one of these were too appealing, since using the "." command is very clutzsy and time consuming to work with, and re-writing a lot of code for limited use, is hard to justify. So, what to do? Well, I opted for the path of least resistance. Did a display to get structure specifics, then an sdf delimited copy of the base, another read by Big Blue to bring it to native 128 mode, and an auto import into Filer2. :) I've got many good printing modules from other Filer2 bases, that after changing a couple of fields do all the required printing. Any 'special' jobs will get done by merging. This all took longer than I expected. About two hours. I was happy to see everything go so well, after confronting all those hurdles, that I decided to fix up the edit screen to make it look pretty, and played around with moving things. About one of those two hours went into this. Wasn't necessary, but I figured it would make using the base more pleasant. The fields aren't structured quite the way I would have set things up. But, everything needed is there, and accessible. I hope that when my term is up, another 128 owner takes over. I haven't thought about getting this dbf back into dBASE... :/ Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 8 Wed Nov 06, 1991 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) JBEE--- Superbase v3.01 had the copy protection removed, and can be MCOPYed to a similar partition on the HD or RAMLink (71 partition if you have the 5.25" or 81 partition if you have the 1581 version). ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 9 Wed Nov 06, 1991 L.WIILSON [C128R] (Forwarded) Yep, I've been running Superbase 128 on my HD-40 for some time now! There is a program out to fix the non-allocated blocks on the '81 version of the Superbase 128 disk. If you try to modify the startup program, you will lose the boot disk without this fix. I'll get back with the name of file. ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 10 Wed Nov 06, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) You know what I find a bit humorous? The back up copy of Superbase is on the flip side of the disk... :D I will "try" again tomorrow to see if I can get 3.1 ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 11 Thu Nov 07, 1991 R.LAZAR1 [Shadwell] (Forwarded) JBEE... I found this message on Q-link concerning SB: "After a minor comedy of errors at Precision, it has been determined that they did indeed produce a 3.5 version of SB3.01, and that they are again available for $10.00 to registered owners of SBase, as PREZIDENT reported a couple of months ago. I was able to place an order by phone. To order by phone, call 214-929-4888, ex.444 (customer service). You MUST have your registration #, and, of course, your credit card. If you want one, it is probably best that you get in on it soon-- who knows when they will shut down again." I've been running SB128 V3.01 from a 1581 parition on my 4 meg RL with no problems. I've modified my SB start program so it changes partitions to my database and runs a menu program there. Having used both Geofile 128 and dbase II I must recommend SB as the way to go for anyone who wants real versatility from their 128. Good Luck :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 12 Thu Nov 07, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) thank you for the information. ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 13 Sat Nov 09, 1991 JIM.COLLETTE (Forwarded) Rob, I THINK the part of geoFile that uses the ROMs is in the search routines or the sort or something like that. I've never actually looked into it though. Unfortunately the geoFile file format has never been documented at all so there's not much hope there. John Howard is working on it but I think others have tried before and it's apparently quite complex so I'm not sure how far he'll get with it. Then again he is a pretty bright fellow so who knows... I asked John Wedgwood from BSW about it (he's the author) and he said they didn't have it documented anywhere there either, it was just one of those things that he knew about while he was writing it and forgot it later... he said he'd have to dig up the source code and go through it again to try to figure out the format and they're too busy to really be able to do that.. :( Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 14 Sun Nov 10, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) too bad they can't let someone else access the source code so we could figure it out. ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 15 Sat Apr 11, 1992 M.MCCORMIC10 [Mike Mc-] at 05:15 EDT All- I use GEO-file quite a bit for storing my data from my genealogy research. One thing I would LOVE to see developed is macro-keys.It would be great to hit a F-key or a key combination to add repetative data. Is this possible for the 64C?I saw a make key program for (I think)geo- programming.Could something like this be adapted.Right now,it is faster for me to type than to go to a text manager. Please give this some thought. Mike Mc- ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 16 Sun Apr 12, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 02:40 EDT Such a thing should in principle be possible. Where I to attempt it, rather than trying to figure out and patch geoFile, I would probably try to find a free corner of memory in which to stick some interrupt code. The interrupt code would go at the beginning of the GEOS standard interrupt (steal the GEOS vector, make sure to jump to the GEOS vector when done). Check any keypresses that have been made; if it was f1-f8, substitue your string in the keyboard buffer. This would limit you to <10 character macros; with more complicated code (and a larger "free corner"), more could be possible. I don't know if this would actually work, or (more to the point) it would survive in geoFile. Might be worth giving a try. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 17 Sun Apr 12, 1992 T.ANDERSON24 at 20:54 EDT Hi all I just bought a used copy of GEOFILE from a friend he had already sold his original GEOS 2.0 package but had misplaced GEOFile and GEOCALC anyway to make a long story short I Bought both of them fogetting about the copy protect system and of course this makes them useless... What I would like to know is if there is a way I can reset the copy protect and thus allow me to use these programs with my GEOS 2.0 system... I thank you in advance for the help and ask you to E-mail me your ideas as I don't log on to the flagship often... Thanks again Tom Anderson24. ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 18 Sun Apr 12, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 23:02 EDT And finding the free area of memory for a routine like that is probably the hardest part of the job... BSW never left ANY declared free space for system additions like that; it's possible to squeeze a few bytes out here and there but there are only so many areas in which it can be done and it isn't always compatible with everything. I really wish they'd left room in the system for stuff like that. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 19 Sun Apr 12, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 23:27 EDT Doesn't Maverick remove this protection? Or is that only on virgin originals? ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 20 Mon Apr 13, 1992 M.DULSKI1 [Mark @WIZARD] at 01:36 EDT Maverick will make a copy of a GEOS application disk and fix the copy protection. Doesn't matter if the Application disk has been installed to a GEOS boot disk previously. Don't we have a program in the Libraries that will let you change the serial numbers on any GEOS disk? Wouldn't that be another way to get the boot disk to recognize his GEOFile. Course it may not work on GEOS 2.0 - hasn't that serial number edit program been around since V1.3 GEOS? -=Mark=- ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 21 Thu Apr 16, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 02:16 EDT Even if you do have a serial-number-changing program, you still have something of a chicken-and-egg problem if you don't have the Kernal that the software in question was installed under. It is relatively straightforward to write a program to modify the runtime kernal serial number of your GEOS system to that of another kernal so as to be able to use software you bought used. However, you still need to find out what that other kernal's ID was somehow.... -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 22 Thu Apr 16, 1992 M.DULSKI1 [Mark @WIZARD] at 22:17 EDT I thought the program for changing the serial #, read the number from your GEOS boot disk (from kernal?) and rewrote it to the application. I believe it was written for those who answered wrong when asked about keying previously installed application. Wouldn't that work here? Personally I would prefer using Maverick to make backup copies and not have to worry about the serial#. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 23 Fri Apr 17, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:27 EDT Aha- yes, if the program does that, it should work in this case. I was thinking about a simpler ID changer. (I wrote one of the simpler variety for myself when I bought a stack of GEOS64 software used, and got the Kernal with it.) -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 14 Message 24 Sun Mar 07, 1993 M.SAMPLE2 [MARCO POLLO] at 13:00 EST Hi, The one question that I have is how to get my Geofile, calc,etc., to be recognized without the original bootdisk? I recently bought a 128D with some of these programs, they are 64 version though. I don't have the original bootdisk. I might see about upgrading to 128 version but I don't know where to send them. Is there something I can do change them? See Ya! ------------ ************ Topic 15 Sun Oct 24, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Sub: geolabel 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 15 Message 1 Sun Oct 24, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Is there a program that would enable me to print 3 across labels using geos graphics? mike :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 15 Message 2 Mon Oct 25, 1993 S.EYRSE (Forwarded) To stick on lables, or just to paper that you would GLUE to the thing your puting your LABLE on? cause one would need to know what pre pasted lable your using to have a driver to print to it.. ------------ Category 6, Topic 15 Message 3 Mon Oct 25, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) What kind of printer do you have? Does it have a sheet feeder or can you feed cut sheets manually? If so you could print out the graphics for the labels with GEOS and then use a label printing program for 3x labels (believe there are several in the libraries that would be suitable). If you have a cutting board or have a steady hand, you could buy 8x11 label sheets, print the graphics, run it through a second time printing the addresses, and then cut the sheet into labels. I use this method for my silver and hot pink labels :) Or you could skip GEOS and use Gary's Label Maker with PSA graphics. I believe Loadstar has also published several label printers that handle graphics and barcodes. ------------ Category 6, Topic 15 Message 4 Mon Oct 25, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) If you want to stay in the GEOS environment there is also a commericial program called Dweezil Label28 that Dave Ferguson wrote. It does 3x labels. It will also do graphics and different fonts. He sells it for $20.95. It is version 3.5.. Yes it is for a 128. His 64 version does not do 3x's. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 15 Message 5 Mon Oct 25, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) PS the address is Quincy Softworks, 9479 E. Whitmore Ave. Hughson, CA 95326- 9745. I am arranging to get him as "guest" in my chatroom in the next few months. so if you like his program, you will be able to find out about some of the other ones he has written, such as Newtools2. Newtools the PD version is in our libraries: file # 13222. So, Keep an eye on the calendar to see when he will be in. ------------ ************ Topic 16 Wed Oct 20, 1993 T.FARRELL5 [12Paws] (Forwarded) Sub: Geos 2.0r - crash and 1750 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 16 Message 1 Wed Oct 20, 1993 T.FARRELL5 [12Paws] (Forwarded) I have a 64 + 2-1541's + Georam. At various times, like when I select FILE from the command bar and then select INFO from the sub menu, I get a message CRASH NEAR $024C. I Have new error installed and just press the mouse button, to reboot, but it is a pain in the neck nevertheless. The Georam and the 2.0r disk were used and no box asking about installing it ever came up. Does new error work also on geos 128? Second problem: I have a 128D + 1571 + 1750. When I boot with the 1750 from the 2.0r disk no icon is present for the 1750. If I remove it and plug in my Georam the ram1571 icon is present. Do I need a special configure file for the 1750? BTW-are there any drivers for 128- lightpen,koala pad and track- ball? If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Thanks. ------------ Category 6, Topic 16 Message 2 Wed Oct 20, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) The error message you are getting could be a corrupyted configure File try Downloading the one I uploaded in the Libs Use BBG as your search word As for the 1750 problem It is the configure file for sure cofigure 2.0r is for GEORAMS only for the 1750 you will need Just plain Configure 2.0 NOT 2.0r Hope This helps. Jim ------------ Category 6, Topic 16 Message 3 Wed Oct 20, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) I believe I SFXed a whole disk of drivers, including those for lightpens and koala pads, to the GEOS library a while ago. Please note a lot of the drivers will not work with GEOS 128 V2.0 in 80 columns. ------------ Category 6, Topic 16 Message 4 Fri Oct 22, 1993 T.FARRELL5 [12Paws] (Forwarded) Thanks to J. Packard ! The 2.0 config works fine. I should have read the GEOS package! ------------ Category 6, Topic 16 Message 5 Fri Oct 22, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) Your Welcome ! Thanks for asking That is what this board is all about. And I for one would like to see A little more Action on It...:) thanks Jim ------------ ************ Topic 17 Sat Oct 16, 1993 J.SZCZAP (Forwarded) Sub: Geos Converting How to convert a Geos file to Geos format 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 17 Message 1 Sat Oct 16, 1993 CBM-YLR.ROSE (Forwarded) J.Szczap.. unsure what you are trying to do here.. do you need help converting downloaded files to geos, or geos files to upload-able format?? For either, Convert 2.5 is the program for you. Download it from our library, copy it to your GEOS disk, then run it in BASIC first.. it converts itself to a Geos Application. Then you can just double click on it in GEOS and it will ask you which files to convert, etc. Hugs! ------------ ************ Topic 18 Sat Oct 02, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Sub: geoSHELL desktop command line interface 16 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 1 Sat Oct 02, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Maurice Randall has come up with a real winner. The desktop is replaced with a command line interface that greatly simplifies and speeds up the use of Geos. Get this program---only $24.95-- with free updates that are automatically sent Mike:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 2 Sun Oct 03, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) Thanks for the nice comment, Mike. In fact, I am just finishing up version 2.2 of geoSHELL. I decided to make another little change to the filecopy command this week. The only thing left to do is to update the documentation and it will be ready to ship. But before I do, I will be sending a copy to Doug at CMD so that he can test it on an FD drive. The new changes to the whole program should still work on the FD, it's just that I can't test it since I don't have one. I want to be 100 percent sure it is ok before I ship. Absolutely everyone who has received geoSHELL from me so far, whether you have purchased it or received it on a promotional basis will receive a free copy of geoSHELL V2.2 within a few weeks. If you like V2.0, you will love V2.2. Stay tuned. ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 3 Sat Oct 23, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) I just saw geoSHELL at work about a week ago at an area User meeting. Maurice himself was demonstrating it. I see a lot of potential in the program, especially for you power users. It seems limited only by the user's imagination. For these reasons I'm going to have Maurice in my chatroom on Tuesday night sometime in November. I'll post the exact date on this message thread, as well as on the calendar. Happy Geosing........:) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 4 Sat Oct 23, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Maurice, it seems that although my version says 2.0 it was modified on Oct 2, it appears to have some of the updated features. fcopy f newfile=oldfile works fine on my fd-4000 drive. Is there anyway that we can go over 144 files on a partition. This seems to be a hassle for me because I never know when I am near the limit? Great program!!! mike :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 5 Sat Oct 23, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) The 144 file limit is not a limit of geoSHELL, but rather a limit that the disk driver supplied with GEOS imposes. When geoSHELL's fcoy (mispelled fcopy) attempts to copy a file, it asks for an available spot in the directory. GEOS either provides it or it claims that the directory is full. If it is full, then geoSHELL is unable to do the copy. A future patch will either have geoSHELL bypass the normal route, or make a modification to the GEOS disk drivers. MRABOY, as for fcopy working as you say on your copy of geoSHELL, I may have accidentally sent you a more recent version of geoSHELL than I was supposed to have. I didn't want anybody to have anything past the version that began shipping late last year until this new V2.2 was finished. In any case, V2.2 is now done and the manual update is also finished. All I have to do now is get the masters of the manual laser printed and then go to the print shop and get a number of copies made. Then beginning with the very first person that ordered geoSHELL from me, I will begin sending out free upgrades. It will probably take me 2-3 weeks to get all the upgrades sent out, but starting with this next week, all new orders will receive the new version. This new version is a much more powerful version than V2.0 and has quite a few enhancements. Since I've been able to get geoSHELL finished to the point where I am happy with it, I've been able to work on my 'other' project known as Finally! In fact, Finally! is almost to a sort of 'sneak preview' stage. As to geoSHELL again, I've also been working on a geoSHELL developers package that will allow GEOS programmers to create commands for geoSHELL. It is a very complete and easy to understand package with complete details on all of geoSHELL's accessible routines. It is complete with a bunch of sample source code that can be used in your own programs. It also includes some additional commands with source code for examples. The nice thing about geoSHELL is that a new command that is quite useful can usually be written in one or two pages of code. As an example, the other night, I needed a utility that would display all of the current VDC register settings. So I wrote a short command that was only about 1/3 page long and it displayed all 37 registers on the screen. Coupled with the '@p' command, I was able to send the output to the printer. When this developers package is finished, I will upload it here to GEnie and make it available to the public domain. ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 6 Tue Oct 26, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) Maurice Randall will be a "guest" in my chatroom on November 16th. from 10 to 11:30. If you want to know more about geoSHELL, or want to ask some questions, this will be the time. Maurice will also be talking about his new DTP program, FINALLY. Hope to see you all there. If you would like an Email reminder, let me know. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 7 Mon Nov 01, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) When I try to fcopy from either my FD-4000 or my 1581 to my RamLink my computer freezes. I can go the other way with no problem.If I leave geoshell and go back to gateway I have no problem Mike Raboy :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 8 Tue Nov 02, 1993 H.HERMAN1 (Forwarded) Mike, You probably have an early version of FCOPY with the RAMLink bug. Why not download the latest version from CMD's Private Library? Or.... Even better, is the FCOPY+ which is one of the utilities included on CMD's Utilites disk. This is only one of many very, very useful utilities. Cannot imagine how I got along without these before... It is hard to describe just how useful this CMD Utilities package really is. Sort of like trying to describe just how convenient JiffyDos is to someone who has never seen it operating. Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 9 Tue Nov 02, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) I am talking about the fcopy command in Geoshell Mike :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 10 Tue Nov 02, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) V2.2 of geoSHELL will fix any problems you (MRABOY) are having with the fcopy command. I'd bet that V2.2 contains around 100 enhancements or fixes over V2.0. And to many users, V2.0 was pretty good. The problem is in trying to get geoSHELL to work with any kind of possible hardware configuration that a GEOS user could come up with. And from all indications, it looks as though I've covered all the bases with the upgrade. geoSHELL does a lot of stuff to work properly with GEOS. There are a lot of fixes contained in geoSHELL that are really not things that are fixing geoSHELL, but fixing problems created by other programs. For instance, an early version of geoSHELL would not work with the program ScrapIt. The reason was that geoSHELL just happened to occupy a certain area of memory that ScrapIt loaded into. This normally is not a problem, because geoSHELL is essentially out of the picture when another application is running. But the area that ScrapIt checked for a filename of the GeoPaint file is was saving as a Photo Scrap was not cleared. This was something that ScrapIt should have done when it first loaded, to clear the area that it stores filenames in. Another problem with an early version of geoSHELL (before V2.0) was that it was not compatible with GeoBasic. It turned out to be that GeoBasic left a vector messed up. geoSHELL fixes this. This could lead to an eventual crash if it were not for geoSHELL. Also, ever since I've been using geoSHELL, I have never seen the problem with the '00' date in geoFile. I can't explain this one except that I think geoSHELL's handling of the GEOS clock is the reason this problem is fixed. I could go on and on here, but I'll stop now because this message is getting kind of big already. ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 11 Wed Nov 03, 1993 H.HERMAN1 (Forwarded) Mike, I am in <blush-mode>..... I promise to behave and next time will be sure to read the SUBJECT before I rush in with my one cents worth. Sure glad Maurice came along! :) Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 12 Wed Nov 03, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) Don't worry, H.HERMAN1, you are not the first person who has made the mistake of confusing the two fcopy's. I suppose I could have given this command a different name, but it seemed fitting to call it this. ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 13 Wed Nov 03, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) I am looking forward to Vs. 2.2. GeoSHELL is a very classy program. Even if the answers are wrong the intent is good and replies come very fast. This board is on a very high level (not like the other one) and as the rabbit says "we keep on going" Mike:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 14 Wed Nov 03, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) Don't forget to drop in on November 16th to get direct answers from Maurice. I will let you know the exact hours, but it appears it will be with in the first hours of my RTC. He will also be talking about his new DTP program that is very close to being finished. Hope to see everyone there. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 15 Thu Nov 04, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] (Forwarded) geoSHELL V2.2 officially hit the streets today. I've started sending out upgrades to all geoSHELL owners. I've been holding up new orders for the last two weeks in anticipation of this upgrade being ready to go. All new orders were filled today. The upgrades to existing orders are going out in the order that they originally came in and it will take a few weeks to get all of them going. ( if I was a big-buck operation, I could probably send them all out in one big batch ). Please be patient, as you can see, I am living up to everything I have ever promised anybody. The free upgrades that is. ------------ Category 6, Topic 18 Message 16 Thu Dec 16, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 12:30 EST I just uploaded a file to the GEOS Applications section called 'gscard.sfx'. This contains two new geoSHELL commands that you can use to create and print greeting cards. Documentation is included. Hopefully, it will be made live fairly soon, because it also includes a special Christmas card from myself to all geoSHELL owners. ------------ ************ Topic 19 Wed Feb 20, 1991 LINUS at 21:11 EST Sub: Geopaint multiple copies 18 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 1 Wed Feb 20, 1991 LINUS at 21:12 EST Can anyone tell me how to print more than one copy of a Geopaint file? Is there a utility to do this? ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 2 Thu Feb 21, 1991 C128.JBEE at 07:16 EST I would be interested in this one too. I usually print my disk labels using Handyscan/Pagefox but I really did not feel like plugging in the roms and unplugging my C1750 to do it. So, I booted geopaint and once I realized I couldn't make multiple copies I ended up doing it anyways! I think I do remember being able to make multiple copies but I think that was when I used the Laser Jet driver. ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 3 Fri Feb 22, 1991 JIM.COLLETTE at 20:29 EST There is a program on Joe Buckley's Storm Disk I called RePrint that will let you make multiple copies of a geoPaint file. (Or any file for that matter). His disk is $20 and also includes WrongIsWrite 8.0, Graphic Storm II, Font Monster, as well as some other neat utils, and Fran Kostella's CIRCE 2.0. (Great game!) Joe Buckley Storm Systems 464 Beale St. W. Quincy, MA 02169 Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 4 Wed Mar 13, 1991 M.DULSKI1 [Mark] at 21:30 CST LOADSTAR issue #63 has a program that will print multiple copies of a GEOpaint file. -Mark ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 5 Thu Mar 12, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 02:56 EST geoPager by Robert Knop on Twin Cities 128 disk issue #31 will let you print multiple copies of a page AND print geoPaints from a list and multiple copies of the list. More information can be found in Category #16. This program will also be available on Twin Cities 64 disk issue #01. ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 6 Thu Mar 12, 1992 M.MINNIG at 21:24 EST Also, Storm Disk 1 from Joe Buckley (Red Storm) has a program that will print multiple copies of one geoPaint page.*s ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 7 Tue Jul 14, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 14:44 EDT Hi :) This is my setup C-128 (various drives etc) gateWay Geos V2.0 geoPublish I have over 100 C-1541 disks with geoPaints on them and someone wants me to produce a "thumbnails" printout for them. Is there anyway to print each picture as a thumbnail on a sheet to fit maybe 9-20 geoPaints onto one piece of paper. I will be using geoPublish with a Postscript printer or Geos 2.0 with a HP printer. What I do not want to do is have to load each picture in and crop it to fit within a scrap and import it into geoPaint. I know geoPublish lets you print a complete document out with the pages as thumbnails but how do I do it with the whole geoPaint? I admit I haven't read the "whole" geoPublish manual. Is there some tip tip or trick I missed? ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 8 Fri Jul 17, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 23:53 EDT Hmmm, sound like another feature that ought to be put in geoPager! Were I to try to do it, I would do it something like this: you would have a configuration window that would let you select between (1) 1 geoPaint per page, (2) 4 geopaints per page, or (3) 16 geopaints per page. (This would cram them right next to each other without any space between; the other easy choice would be the option of 1 or 9, with the 9 having some space between them.) A _separate_ configuration window (DB) would let you chose the compression; note that this compression would really be loss of resolution. Nominally, for 9 (or 16) geoPaints per page, you will need to convert 16 pixels to 1 pixel (I think this is what the "page view" option of geoPaint does). BUT, if you have a condenced printer driver (e.g. a 240 dps driver... hmm, that'd be good for 4 geoPaints per page) which also condenses vertically, then you could use that, get full resolution AND multiple geoPaints on a page. I wonder if I could fit it in geoPager... would be a bunch of extra code, especially the compression (i.e. converting 16 pixels to one pixel). Might be possible, though. Easier would be just to put up a window which lets you specify nxn paints per page, and let the user worry about having a compressing printer driver. (You have a ... laserwriter? HP? The printer driver lets you specify a compression, doesn't it?) -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 9 Sat Jul 18, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 16:02 EDT With the HP PCL commands you could send multiple geoPaints to a page and determine where they will "start" on the left hand side by setting it within the PCL. I figure since a geoPaint is only 640 pixels across and a 300 dpi page is 2550 pixels across you could fit 4 geoPaints on one line and 16 to a page without compressing them (assuming you had enough ram in the printer, which I do). I know geoPublish lets you do thumbnails of a document and as far as I can tell at this point it does just that, without compression. ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 10 Sat Jul 18, 1992 CBM-ED [e.g.bell] at 17:00 EDT Is there any way to translate them to PrintShop format. I *know* that is probably an obscene thing to even contemplate, but there are some programs that do exactly what I think you are talking about with Print Shop graphics. Course, you probably already have them, considering the amount of ps stuff you have! ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 11 Sun Jul 19, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 00:26 EDT You could use something like Paint-Scrap to clip the whole geoPaint page into a scrap, then paste it directly into geoPublish - either full-size and let geoPubLaser do your thumbnails, or alternatively you could just reduce the page down right while pasting it in and line up a couple of them all within geoPublish itself.. on a dot-matrix printer you'd get compressed output, but on a PostScript laser (with geoPubLaser) it just goes at the higher resolution so all of the original resolution is still there (just DON'T use smoothing). But then again the thumbnail thing probably does just about the same thing - I don't think I've ever tried doing thumbnails though. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 12 Sun Jul 19, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:53 EDT HP PCL: what is this? Is this the language used to control the HP printers, much as PostScript is the language used to control LaserWrtiers, and HP's equipped with a PostScript cartraidge? Re: repositioning printouts on the page. What does the HP printer driver support? 300 dpi would be the best way to do it... although I think that 4x4 wouldn't fit, since the ususal GEOS size is 80 dpi, you would need 320 dpi to cram 4x4 without any space between. 3x3 would comfortably fit 9 images, with some space in between, on a page. This HP doesn't use the same printer driver as the laserjet, does it? If not, is the printer driver freely distributable, or did you buy it from somewhere? If it is FD, I'd like to take a look at it. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 13 Sun Jul 19, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 17:10 EDT re:Printshop graphics Nah, PSA graphics are only 72 pixels across a geoPaint is 640! I am not willing to settle for a 10 to 1 reduction. re:Paint-Scrap and pasting The problem is I have well over 1500 geoPaint graphics now. I have a hard time imagining Scrapping and pasting them all without going insane(r). As it is just the file limits would mean reloading the Ramlink multiple times. re:PCL Yes, it is used to control HP printers (Deskjets, Laserjets, Paintjets, etc) It is a line raster printer language (you define the graphic by rasterlines not "cells"). Printers with a Postscript cartridge (like you use under geoPublish) use Postscript. The HP Geos driver only supports 75, 100, 150, 300 DPI printing and with the geoPaints only a straight dump without any page positioning. It also cuts off the right hand side of the page (sigh). I don't know where I got it. The HP driver is the Laserjet driver. The HP Laserjet (version i-ii-iii). I would settle for 3x3 :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 14 Thu Jun 17, 1993 S.EYRSE [AIR'S] at 04:10 EDT There is a multi print patch for GeoWrite that I have up loaded here But I hadn't thought about Paint I'll see if it would work there also AS to HP printers. get LaserJet PAR. if it isn't here I'll send it up. ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 15 Fri Jun 18, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 22:26 EDT 6-19 If it is a patch for geoWrite, I give you 99.9% odds that it doesn't work with geoPaint. Patches to programs generally have to be very specific things, changing bytes in the code of one program, which is going to be different from the code in another program. (I leave the other .1%, though, because there is always room in the universe for something new and inexplicable.) In my very unbiased opinion :D, the best way to do multiple printouts of geoPaint file is using geoPager, available on Twin Cities disks #31 and #32 (or was it #33?). -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 16 Sat Jun 19, 1993 C128.JBEE at 02:57 EDT #32 contains geoPager 128. #33 contains geoPager 64. ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 17 Thu Sep 23, 1993 S.EYRSE at 23:54 EDT Well let me look at GeoPaint to see if it could be patched to make multi copies. GeoWrite wasn't that hard. That patch is here on Genie. It has to be in the app. itself as that is where the buffer for text is and the cancel which is part of the print HI DRAFT NLQ box. It is in this area the patch needs to be made so when it reaches the end of the file it loops back. FYI there was JUST enough room in Write to do the extra coding don't know about Paint till I look. Right now I'm looking into a Sideways print out for Calc. But as I have done this (multi print) already I'll do a quick look to see if it could happen. Air's :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 19 Message 18 Sat Sep 25, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 13:30 EDT On the other hand, if you want a solution that already exists, there is geoPager, available on one of the Twin Cities 128 disks from Parsec. That a geoPaint multiple copy printer and more. It lets you select up to 255 geoPaint files from a disk, and print as many copies of each of them as you want in one operation. It's a "geoPaint Batch Printer" as well as a multiple copy printer. This way, if you have a lot of geoPaint files you want to print out, whether you want one or more copies of each, you can start them all printing and not have to babysit your computer. -Rob ------------ ************ Topic 20 Tue Sep 28, 1993 B.LOGAN7 (Forwarded) Sub: I NEED A BUBBLE JET DRIVER are there any drivers for the Canon BJ5,bj200or any of the panasonic seriesie., KX-P1123,1124i,1150,1624,2123,2124??????????????????????????????? 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 1 Tue Sep 28, 1993 B.LOGAN7 (Forwarded) Please contact me in my mailbox VERY IMPORTTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 2 Tue Sep 28, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) I just got a BJ-230 (wide carriage 11x17 version of the BJ-200). If you can wait a month or so I will have finished throughly testing it and will be publishing a review of it. ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 3 Tue Sep 28, 1993 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) Perfect Print LQ (from CMD) handles the Panasonic 24 pin printers very well, allowing them to be used up to their maximum density of 360 x 360 dots per inch. Most of the Cannon BJ series can also use drivers from Perfect Print, provide you get one that has Epson LQ-850 emulation. ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 4 Wed Sep 29, 1993 J.JONES36 [LOADSTAR] (Forwarded) Don't waste your time trying to find a specific driver. All these Bubble jet and 24-pin printers hover around the IBM PRO PRINTER X24 and LQ 800/2550 series. I've never used my Canon BJ-5 in the canon mode, and I've never used my STAR NX-2410 printer in the star mode. It's set for Lq-800. Find the alternate drivers listed in your manual, set the DIP switch, and your BJ will work fine. The BJ can't print to the bottom half inch of the document. If you're having problems with the printer going offline with carriage returns in the buffer, you'll have to send a form feed/sheet feed command instead. For that, you may need a custom driver. ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 5 Wed Sep 29, 1993 B.LOGAN7 (Forwarded) Well folks, I bought a Panasonic KX-P 1123 ! Now to get it to work. ------------ Category 6, Topic 20 Message 6 Thu Sep 30, 1993 J.JONES36 [LOADSTAR] (Forwarded) I use a 1123 at work. Plugged it into my TYMAC pieca' crap interface interface and kept right on working. It's going to default to nine pin epson emulation. If you've been using a printer and interface all this time, you'll see no difference. YOu can use the same Epson 9-pin drivers. To see it at it's best, you'll have to either use one of the built in LQ fonts or use a 24-pin driver. I think the way 24-pin printers switch modes is great. ------------ ************ Topic 21 Sun Sep 26, 1993 J.SCHWARTZ1 [DuneWalker] (Forwarded) Sub: Laser printing GEOS documents Laser printing geoWrite, geoPaint, geoPublisher documents 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 21 Message 1 Sun Sep 26, 1993 J.SCHWARTZ1 [DuneWalker] (Forwarded) When I used to belong to QuantumLink, there was a service there called "LaserDirect", where one could upload a geoWrite file, and LaserDirect would print it out on a laser printer. On my latter days on Q, though, the service seemed to be dying (unanswered Email, etc). Is there such a service here on GEnie? Or is anyone capable of doing that here? Believe it or not, there are still a couple of people in the world (like me) who can't yet afford a laser printer, or who would need it so infrequently that purchasing one would not be justified. ------------ Category 6, Topic 21 Message 2 Sun Sep 26, 1993 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) CMD is considering performing this service in the future. I'll present details as they become available. ------------ Category 6, Topic 21 Message 3 Mon Sep 27, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) See Cat 11 Topic 7 for information on laser printing. ------------ ************ Topic 22 Tue Sep 21, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Sub: geocanvas 128 geocanvas 128 with gateWay 2.5 13 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 1 Tue Sep 21, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Has any tried Nate's new program with gateway. I have been having trouble. I keep getting the message that geocanvas128 can't find an available bank. I have no trouble using the regular desktop *S Mike :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 2 Wed Sep 22, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Are you using a REU or a Ramlink with gateWay? ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 3 Wed Sep 22, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) MRABOY- I would hazard a guess that you are using an REU with gateway, based on what you say the symptoms are. If so, you should be able to fix the problem doing the following. You should do this right after booting GateWay, and before you have copied any files to your RAM disk. Double click on the RAMDisk_128 driver to get the configuration screen. Click on the down arrow once. This should decrease the size of your RAMdisk by 64K. Click on SAVE. Reboot your GateWay system (though this may not be necessary). Thereafter you should be able to use geoCanvas128. In case you are interested, what you have done is steal a REU bank from your RAM disk so that there will be a free bank for geoCanvas128. GateWay's RAM disk driver is more intellegent than the standard BSW RAM disk drivers, in that it uses the full size of the REU available- whereas the BSW driver just uses the number of banks it needs to emulate whichever disk drive it emulates. This means that there are often unused banks in the REU with the standard BSW drivers, while no REU banks are wasted by GateWay. Fortunately, for those programs that do need to grab a part of the REU, GateWay lets you set aside some RAM. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 4 Thu Sep 23, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) I am using a Ramlink with 5 megs. mike:) ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 5 Sat Sep 25, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) Mike- What disk drives do you have with your system? What are the first three "disk driver" files that appear on your GateWay boot disk? -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 6 Sun Sep 26, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) I have tried it three ways. 1. RLnative, fdnative, and CBM 1581, or 2, CBM1571, rlnative, and CBM 1581. ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 7 Sun Sep 26, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) The third way I got Geocanvas to work but I set up a Ramdisk on my RL and did not use gateWay, but rhe regular desk top. What I would like to do is to just add geocanvas to my gateway that is already set up. I even tried to eliminate switcher from my boot disk to create an available REU bank Mike ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 8 Sun Sep 26, 1993 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) I think the problem you're running into is a bug in geoCanvas. I've seen this condition before, where geoCanvas cannot find a free bank, even when one exists. I've seen this not only under gateWay, but also when using a GEORAM Kernal (GEOS 2.0r). I held off responding because I've never even seen geoCanvas 128, thus I wasn't sure if what you were seeing was unique to it, but through what you have described thus far, it sounds like the same problem. Jim Collette also mentioned to me that there is some other problem with geoCanvas 128 and gateWay 128, though I don't recall the details. The latter is something that Jim had discussed with Nate, so Nate should be able to tell you. You should really be reporting all this to him, as only he can fix these problems. There is a chance that he will not be able to duplicate these problems, though, since he uses only an REU system. This means he can't verify if his code works on RAMLink equipped systems, or test for any bugs for such systems that do not turn up when using an REU. ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 9 Sun Nov 14, 1993 N.FIEDLER [NathanF] (Forwarded) geoCanvas 128 vs. gateWay 128 As was described, use the RAMDisk driver to set how much RAM space is used in your RAMLink. If it's still not working then there's something I don't know about that is wrong. As was said, I haven't been able to duplicate such a problem on my system, so I cannot fix it. If there are further problems, please email me at N.FIEDLER. Thank you. ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 10 Sun Nov 14, 1993 GEOS-TIM (Forwarded) Great to see you on GEnie, Nathan. Geo programmers on GEnie are a plus. I hope to see you in the RTC this Tuesday, Maurice Randall will be in to talk about his geoShell desktop and also FINALLY, his new DeskTop Publishing program. :) -Tim (formally GeoHostTim) ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 11 Thu Nov 18, 1993 MRABOY (Forwarded) Ditto, Nice to see you Nate. i will let you know about tring your suggestion. mike :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 12 Fri Nov 19, 1993 N.FIEDLER [Nathan] (Forwarded) GeoCanvas 3.0 for the 64 and 128 are now for sale. Here are some major features: Open 3 document/windows at once; Windows movable/ resizable; Dynamic tool module structure - add tools written seperately (other programmers can write tools); Keyboard shortcuts under each tool; Ruler tool has tracelines for lining up objects; Edit tool can select entire window and can change color; Paint brush can have air brush effect; Window now reaches bottom corner so it's 80% of screen; Multiple copy print box; Previews document over 360% faster; Gridlines have new features and maximum size; Font and desk accessory selection from 3 drives; All settings are remembered from one session to the next. And, most important of all! 80 COLUMN COLOR FOR C128 COMPUTERS!! GC128 supports 80 column color for 128's with 64K or 16K of VDC memory! (For 16K, screen height will be reduced slightly.) GC64 works in 40 column mode only, and requires an REU and GEOS 64/128 2.0 to work. GC128 works in 80 column mode only (otherwise same as GC64) and requires and REU and GEOS 128 2.0. GC64: $28 GC128: $28 Both together: $43 Demo, Tool programming notes disks: $3 Upgrade to GC64 from GC1.2 sold by CMD: $13 with old disk PLEASE SPECIFY WHICH VERSION WHEN ORDERING ANY DISK. All orders in PA add 6% tax. Send check or money order made payable to: Nathan Fiedler 5711 Mt. Pleasant Road Bernville, PA 19506-9313 Creative Micro Designs will also be selling GC64 3.0, but it will cost you more to buy it through them. Thank you for your support. Nate :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 22 Message 13 Sat Nov 20, 1993 T.GOSSER1 [G-man] (Forwarded) Try increasing your DACC size. I will post my DACC size after I check it. I did so that I would have enough space for GC128 and Switcher. I have a 8megs. No REU connected to my Ramlink, I have encountered problems with using an REU with RL under GateWay. It dont like the DACC to be there. So try it with out the REU plugged in and a larger DACC. :) Hi Nate, good to see you on GEnie! ::) Tom Gosser ------------ ************ Topic 23 Fri Sep 17, 1993 D.CRAIG6 (Forwarded) Sub: 512k GEORAM CONGIGURE FILE? I need a configure file that I believe exsists on Q-LINK called Configure2.1? If that isn't the correct name, then it is a config file that allows full 512k use of the GEORAM. ALSO, can anyone build up my RAM? 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 23 Message 1 Fri Sep 17, 1993 D.CRAIG6 (Forwarded) I hope that someone who is kind, compassionate, and a fellow GEO user. Any help woul be appreciated! I'm sick of only having "RAM 1571" usage, if you get my drift......THANX-A-LOT ***DON CRAIG*** ------------ Category 6, Topic 23 Message 2 Fri Sep 17, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) Configure 2.1, which is in the libraries here (files 8432, 8433), supports 17xx REU's expanded to 1 or 2 Megs. It does this by introducing the RAM1581 drive type. Plus, if you have enough REU space and only one physical drive in use, you can configure it to have two RAMdisks. I am not sure if there is a corresponding utility for geoRAM. However, I believe that without GateWay, the only sorts of RAM disks you can have are those that emulate one of the standard Commodore drives. Since a RAM1581 requires about 800K, that means that RAM1571 is the best you can do with a geoRAM. GateWay uses a different RAM disk driver which takes advantage of the full space of RAM you have available. This applies to GeoRAM, 17xx REUs, and expanded 17xx REUs. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 23 Message 3 Fri Sep 17, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) The configure File you speek of is configure 2.1R I didn't Know it wasn't available Here I Will upload the configure Files for Georams Next time I sign on there are a couple of them. As far as upgrading your goeram I suggest you perchase a BBG RAM It is a Georam in three modles 512K,1Meg or 2Meg Prices are $89,119 and 159. Thay can be purchased from PPI the order # is 1-800-925-9774 P.S. The BBG rams also come with Battery Back-up so you will not need to reload the ram every time you Boot up as a matter of fact you can just RBOOT instead of Using your Boot Disk. If you need more Info Just E-Mail Me thanks Jim Packard ------------ ************ Topic 24 Tue Aug 31, 1993 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] (Forwarded) Sub: lazer printing I was wondering how to lazer print with geos applications. I know that geopuplazer and geolaser work and how they work. But how do you print out other documents such as geocalc and geofile? Also does geolaser and geopublaser work on ot 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 1 Tue Aug 31, 1993 J.BARBER9 [dan barber] (Forwarded) other laser printers besides the apple laser writer? Thanks in advance. Dan P.S. sorry my description wasn't long enough for my question so I continued it here. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 2 Sat Sep 11, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) >J.BARBER9 >lazer printing >I was wondering how to lazer print with geos applications. When using the laser printer driver, it just dumps to a bitmap page the same as a regular dot matrix driver. The only way under GEOS to take advantage of the Postscript laser fonts is under geoPublish. Almost any laser printer that supports Postscript can be used with geoPublish. To use the laser printer with geoPaint and geoWrite, you need to have Hewlett Packard Laserjet II emulation in the printer. ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 3 Sun Sep 12, 1993 R.KING53 [Ron] (Forwarded) >JBEE I recently typed a Geowrite doc & printed it to disk with a GeoLaser driver patched with Jim Collett's PS.patch. I copied it on to a MSDOS disk and dumped it to the Postscript printer at work, so I think Geowrite & Geopublish both can use the Postscript fonts. Must use the LW_Fonts though. ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 4 Tue Oct 12, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Ron, I will have to try that patch with a geoWrite file and see if it works for me. Hope so :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 5 Tue Dec 14, 1993 D.BOBER [RENTaLASER] at 00:50 EST The PS Patch program does work on geoLaser. You must use geoLaser to print geoWrite files and geoPublaser to print geoPublish docs. Also, if you ar going to use an HP LaserJet and Jim Collettes patch, you need geoCable, whic ish is available from CMD. Hope this helps, I use both geoLaster and geoPublaser with an HP Laser Jet IIp plus with no problems. ------------ Category 6, Topic 24 Message 6 Tue Dec 14, 1993 C128.JBEE at 07:02 EST I use a Peak Per. (Supra RS232) interface for geoLaser and Postscript printing. ------------ ************ Topic 25 Wed Aug 11, 1993 M.MATTING [mats] (Forwarded) Sub: Geos 2.5 Did you know that a socalled GEOS 2.5 is marketed now in Germany? 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 25 Message 1 Wed Aug 11, 1993 M.MATTING [mats] (Forwarded) Did you know that Markt&Technik now starteted marketing for Geos 2.5? Well, it is a collection of new utilities, i.e. you get (additionally) the TopDesk (in US marketed by Quincy Softworks), GeoText (a "faster" GeoWrite) and some more small proggies. The other "old" ones are included too. Same price as 2.0, no new Kernal. Quite similar to the "new" MS-DOS ;-) [A [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [C [Dk [C [B [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [C. Mats. ------------ Category 6, Topic 25 Message 2 Thu Aug 12, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) Hum, from what you say, I'm not sure I really like the name GEOS 2.5 for this. It sounds like it could be a very nice enhancement package, but calling it "GEOS 2.5" implies things about the package that aren't true. It would be like packaging Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Works together and callling it "MS-DOS 7.0" GEOS 2.5 seems to be saying a new version of GEOS _itself_, not a deskTop replacement bundled with a word processor and other utilities. Not that I'm knocking the package itself! I haven't seen it firsthand... I'm just not sure I like the name. I can get past this though :) Do you have more information on the package? I'd be interested to hear as much about it as possible. Incidentally, Mats: are you actually in Germany, or are you a German in America or Canada? -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 25 Message 3 Thu Aug 12, 1993 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Mats, Are there any plans to market an English version? Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 25 Message 4 Sat Aug 14, 1993 M.MATTING [mats] (Forwarded) Well, thanks for the question, Rob. (So my english shouldn't be very bad). In fact, I`m a "real" german ;-) The informations I gave you came from an article in the german "64er" mag. They didn't say anything about doing an english version. Maybe there could be a problem to do so because GeoWorks surely still owns US-rights in Geos. Markt&Technik, I think, are only allowed to distribute it in Germany. Additionally, the desktop- replacement in US is marketed by Quincy Softworks. In Germany, Markt&Technik and the GeosUserClub made that agreement which is the basis for this version 2.5 (better call it 2.5 than 3.0 ;-) - but you're right, it's a bit like MicroSoft buying some tools and doing another DOS). Matthias. ------------ ************ Topic 26 Wed Feb 05, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 20:04 EST Sub: geos autoexec files where are the autoexec files listed in RUN I saw an article on autoexec files in a past issue of Run that don't seem to be in the Genie library. Could somebody with access to those files upload them for us poor Americans marooned in Pue 19 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 1 Wed Feb 05, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 20:07 EST Sorr y about the "topic Discription". Saw an article on Geos Auto exec files listed on Quantum Link. They don't seem to be here on Genie. Could somebody upload them for us poor americans marooned on Puerto Rico with no access to QLink? Thanks. P.S. it was 84 today. ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 2 Thu Feb 06, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 02:18 EST ha! I know what you mean... I've found myself `marooned' on Viequez quite a few times, especially around this time of year. :) Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 3 Thu Feb 06, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 22:09 EST HOWIE, Are you really another C= fan on this God forsaken island? Or did you just look up the nearest island to taunt me? You're not running a board out in Mayaguez are you? ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 4 Sat Feb 08, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 06:09 EST Not me. Never been to Mayaquez, but renting a car and driving around to see things is on my to-do list. Prob tho is that when I take a vacation I usually like to do nothing. Well, maybe lay on a beach, and get up to take a swim every now and then when it gets too warm. Viequez is ideal for this. :) I live in NYC so I like the change. Probably been there at least a dozen times. I quess I must like it. :) Howie ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 5 Sun Feb 23, 1992 G.CORREA at 00:35 EST ...but how about someone raiding Q-Link...? :) Just the printer drivers alone would be a nice addition. SFX all the drivers for one type of printer together and upload 'em! ...please...? :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 6 Sun Feb 23, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 22:41 EST If there's anything in particular you're looking for, let me know and I'll be glad to help out... as far as the whole library goes, it's a little mind- boggling to me to think about pulling EVERYTHING down..... Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 7 Wed Feb 26, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 20:55 EST Jim, How bout 'Batch Copier' and Auto Clock those seemed like some real gems from the Run article. Thanks s ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 8 Fri Feb 28, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 21:32 EST I can put up Auto Clock, but not Batch Copier... that's RUN's software, not allowed to distribute that one. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 9 Sun Mar 01, 1992 G.CORREA at 00:04 EST Jim, I just found & uploaded geoPack, so don't do it. :) For those who do not know, geoPack is a dream come true. CONVERT and then LYNX GEOS files for uploading in one step FROM THE GEOS ENVIRONMENT (!) and do the reverse to anything you download! Will also do batch CONVERTs without asking for confirmation with every file. Barely had time to play with it but it looks good. JBEE should make it "legal" in a few days. Oh yeah- actually works in GEOS 128 on 40 or 80 column screens, as well as GEOS 64. Flies in a REU, but should work on any GEOS-supported drive. ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 10 Sun Mar 01, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 13:37 EST Only problem I have with geoPack is that I'm worried it won't get wide enough distribution if people start using it often... the files it produces can still be deLYNXed, but LNX files are so rare these days a lot of people don't even know how to do that. I'm sticking to .SFX files myself, since I've just found a REAL easy and fast way to make them (I send the files over to the Amiga, run them through LHArc there and then attach the .SFX header - a ton faster than doing it on the 128!) and I love the compression. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 11 Sun Mar 01, 1992 PAUL-MB at 15:48 EST On a local BB, LNX files were the majority. It was RARE to find an SDA, or an ARC. LNX is a pain to use, though! ...Paul @ Micro-Bytes Publishing ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 12 Mon Mar 02, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 00:17 EST Call me a coward but anything that says LYNX in it scares me ;) I posted a note on the file about Convert 2.5 being the standard for acceptable uploads. Unless Bill says otherwise I think this should remain the standard. Though, to me an obvious advantage to the geoPack program is once you have packed (lynxed) an archive it should compress much more than 12 different files. On the other foot though ARC and LHArc are standards by which the whole computer community uses. Though that doesn't mean we have to be sheep either. ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 13 Mon Mar 02, 1992 JIM.COLLETTE at 19:21 EST LYNX doesn't do any compression though, that's the whole point... when you do multiple files, it just changes the T/S pointers around so it looks like one big file. No compression whatsoever, and actually if you had 100 files that were just 2 bytes each, it'd link them all together and you'd not only get the 2 bytes in each sector but the 252 blank ones as well... would have 25200 bytes of wasted space by the time you were all done! The original purpose for LYNX was just to be fast and to work on REL files, he never intended for it to compress the files. Jim :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 14 Mon Mar 09, 1992 MIKE.DUNCAN [ Mikey ] at 23:52 EST Wouldn't it be nice to have a geoApplication that took a group of selected geoFiles, compressed them using the LHA format (or something like that)? And then did the reverse for a big "geoArc" file that you just DL'd. And would also just do a CONVERT if you selected a single file. Granted, that would give you another type of file, but it would only be in the GEOS libraries. (We have both compressed & non-compressed files in all of the other file areas.) And since it would do single files also, it could become the new CONVERT. Don't tell me .... it's already in the works! Right? - Mikey :> ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 15 Wed Mar 11, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 00:00 EST Lets put it this way It has already been thought about. Question is, will we see it? ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 16 Wed Mar 11, 1992 D.BURR8 at 03:19 EST To add to what JBEE has mentioned, I am still working on a GeoArc program based on Chris Smeets Arc program. I have been messing with it on and off for quite awhile now, though a busy and unpredictable professional life hasn't afforded me much opportunity to get past the design of the interface and the general layout of the program. While the subject is up, how do you guys see this thing working? What I have so far is this: Simple menu system, with 2 optionsm GEOS and FILE. Vlir structure to allow for different kinds of compression routines IF and when I can translate some more (lzh and zip would be prime candidates) At the moment, it is purely a dissolver, it will not create archives. Since Convert exists in a DA format, I see no need to include a convert option, just call Convert from the Geos menu. Oh, and let me stick a thanks to Bill and to Chris Smeets for giving me the materials to do this project, I know its been forever, but I WILL have it done sometime in the next few months. Ideas anybody? If somebody has a keen suggestion I will certainly try to accomodate it. Daniel (BetterLateThanNever) Burr ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 17 Fri Apr 03, 1992 G.CORREA at 00:30 EST Like the sounds of it. I have given up of geoPack; a file I archived in my RAMdisk, saved to a physical drive, then turned around and uploaded somehow got corrupted and had a slew of files I did not select for archiving in it. It also reminded me why I don't like LYNX- no compression. D.BURR- a few suggestions: - gotta run under GEOS 128, 80 columns. You'd have my shareware donation without even asking. - an option to decompress on-the-fly during a download would be nice. Something like that would have to be in a revision of geoTerm; anyone know if The Master Blaster has plans to continue his work there? - an integrated CONVERT would be nice- just select the files you want archived and let the program go from there- but not necessisary as (as you said) CONVERT exists as a DA. (Only one I use!) I look forward to seeing the results of your efforts. ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 18 Sat Apr 04, 1992 J.ROBBINS16 [JBUS] at 00:22 EST GeoPack has a problem sometimes when linking files, they link o.k., then convert o.k., but when you unpack/convert them back they sometimes get corrupted. You'll somtimes never find out until you start to use the file and it crashes...but...there is a solution, convert them First, then pack them and the files will come out o.k. The file is nice for converting a group of files after dowmload, but forget about the packing, not only is it not compressed, it makes the file BIGGER like Jim said..not nice for $$$$$ ... ------------ Category 6, Topic 26 Message 19 Mon Apr 26, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] at 19:36 EDT I Have Uploaded The Best Auto-Exec Files From Q For Those Of You Who Requested Them Hope You Enjoy Jim ------------ ************ Topic 27 Thu Jul 29, 1993 E.FERNANDEZ5 [cyprox] (Forwarded) Sub: Trojan Horse How to deal with the Geos Trojan Horse 8 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 1 Thu Jul 29, 1993 E.FERNANDEZ5 [cyprox] (Forwarded) Several years ago when I use to use Geos 2.0 exclusively I remember reading in Qlink about a program that removed the Trojan Horse from boot disks made to boot from a 1581. After a couple of years of "heavy" pc computing (as well as CP/M) I have returned and now am using my Geos 128 2.0 from a CMD hard drive. I would like to keep adding utilities to the partition that I am using as the boot partion, but I am afraid of invoking the "beast" and zapping my boot file out. I also hate wasting all those blocks. Can anyone refer me to this program? Thanks> ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 2 Fri Jul 30, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] (Forwarded) The File you seek is Trojan Killer Uploaded by Jim Collette I Don't remember if it's here also If it isn't Leave me E-Mail And I'll Upload It! Hope This Helps Jim ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 3 Fri Jul 30, 1993 E.FERNANDEZ5 [cyprox] (Forwarded) Thanks. Will look for it, and will post if its available here. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 4 Sun Aug 01, 1993 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) If you used geoMakeBoot to create your boot partition, then the Trojan will never strike... ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 5 Tue Aug 03, 1993 E.FERNANDEZ5 [cyprox] (Forwarded) Is that sold by CMD ? ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 6 Wed Aug 04, 1993 CMD-DOUG (Forwarded) Yes it is... guess it wasn't such a blatent plug afterall. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 7 Sat Aug 07, 1993 R.JONES11 (Forwarded) Hello Im new on the bbs here and just trying to get the hang of this one even though I run my own. now all I have to do is get used to switching to other areas of the board and reading the messages and replying to them. I run a commodore c64 with just a old duel drive and run a bbs just fine,not much for downloading or uploading but its good for a message bbs like it is here. I can switch disks for someone to download but to much trouble. ------------ Category 6, Topic 27 Message 8 Sat Aug 07, 1993 J.STAFF [James] (Forwarded) Jones, Why don't you try and get a hard drive or use a 1571/81 for your bbs? It might give you more room. There are some things on sale around here that could probably help you. I remember running a BBS with 2 1571's and a 1541. Whew! 10 years ago is a l-o- n-g time! James ------------ ************ Topic 28 Sat May 08, 1993 G.CORREA [RAMRunner] (Forwarded) Sub: "Sideways" printing on geoCalc? Anyone know of a way to print out wide (ie, greater than 8.5" or 6 cells) geoCalc documents Sideways, ala Sideways...? 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 1 Sat May 08, 1993 G.CORREA [RAMRunner] (Forwarded) ...Make that an "Easy Way". Printer driver, application, DA, whatever. I'd - prefer- not to export it, rotate in geoPaint, etc, because it'd be too time consuming and limited. Thanks! ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 2 Sat May 08, 1993 YLR.ROSE (Forwarded) Ramrunner.. not sure if it would work, but you might try Ed Bell's Sidewinder, either 64 or 128 versions, both here in our library. If GEoCalc saves as a regular file, or could be converted to PRG file with Convert2.5, and still be readable, Sidewinder should print it out sideways.. I think... ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 3 Sat May 08, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) If you could port it to geoPaint you might try POSTERPRINT.SFX in Library #35. Easy to use. ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 4 Wed Sep 15, 1993 S.EYRSE at 01:56 EDT From the little I have looked into calc and yes I would like to do this myself for spread sheets You would need a sep. app. to read the file and print it. calc hasn't as most of the BSW apps. the room to turn something sideways while printing and most print drivers don't have the way to do it. So it would take a separate app to do it. First it would have to make either a bitmap up sideways. or have a sideways font in it. then it would have to have space to store the sideways file. Then to print it out. So it might be done it would just take some work. Let me look into calc more. Air's :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 5 Thu Sep 23, 1993 S.EYRSE at 04:10 EDT Well it starts to get more comp. when you look into a Calc file.. the "LABLES" are there but all of the actual CALC is in a code that the app. uses to make it work. When the program "cuts or copys" a scrap it will convet all of the information into printable code. If it makes a CALC scrap it won't make this convert. SO>> to print sideways you MUST make a text scrap of the Calc page or area you want . The question now is could a "paint" or "publish" have the memory left to rotate a really G file..?? I need to see how the TEXT scrap is stored.. Still working on it. I want to do this for Taxes..so I hope to have something..by Aug of next year.. :)) ------------ Category 6, Topic 28 Message 6 Thu Sep 23, 1993 S.EYRSE at 23:51 EDT At this point it would seem that first one would need to make a Scrap File of the Calc data and then run a app. that would print it sideways. It would need to have the ability to lay the screen out SIDEWAYS with its' own font and then dump it to the printer. I think it might be good if it could be set up to print on a 14" page for those of us who don't use tractor feed. The reason that this needs to be a stand alone program is that it will use a Big buffer to make this shift. I'm open to input if someone has any other thoughts on this. Air's :) ------------ ************ Topic 29 Tue Jun 29, 1993 R.ROSARIO1 (Forwarded) Sub: Convert geopaint b&w to color I will like to know if there is a way that i can convert the geopaint picutes that are b&w to color. And also is there are good gepaint in color that i can download 11 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 1 Tue Jun 29, 1993 R.ROSARIO1 (Forwarded) I have tried to painted in gepaint but it is not the same , because you only can have two color at the same time Can i combine more then 2 color at a time :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 2 Thu Jul 01, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) It is possible to do color in geoPaint, in GEOS64 and in 40 columns in GEOS128. geoPaint is limited by the hardware color scheme of the C64. Since GEOS doesn't use the low resolution 160x200 4-color mode, each 8x8 block on the screen can only have two colors, a foreground color and a background color. You can set your current working foreground and background colors. As long as you have color set to on under the options menu (I think it is the options menu), whenever you draw, any 8x8 block you draw over will have the foreground and background colors set to the current working values. Alternatively, you can go back later and "color in" your image, by using the "color" option. This directly changes the foreground and background colors of the 8x8 block the cursor is over. This is somewhat more powerful and has more detailed control than the other method, but isn't so easy to use. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 3 Fri Jul 02, 1993 R.ROSARIO1 (Forwarded) Well, but then its imposible to have 3 color at the same time right. But in basic in 40-columm in the C128 you can have 3 color at the same time , why in geos you can not. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 4 Fri Jul 02, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] (Forwarded) No, in fact, you can have as many as 16 colors in one geoPaint document at the same time. The only limitation is that you can only have 2 colors within each 8x8 block on the screen. However, that can be a different two colors for every 8x8 block. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 5 Thu Jul 08, 1993 PLACON (Forwarded) Thank you Rob Knop :) Now i understand than i only can have 2 color for every 8x8 block , But do you know any picture with colot that i can download :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 6 Fri Jul 09, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) Almost all, if not all, of the latest geoPaints are B&W. Maybe if you tried some of the earlier uploads of converted Doodles that begin with dg.filename you might find one with color. Or you could convert a Doodle (with color) to geoPaint and see one that way :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 7 Sat Jul 10, 1993 PLACON (Forwarded) Thank you JBEE :) OH , using photo manager , is there a way to have color in it. thank you :) Also wich file i have to dowload to convert doodle to geopaint ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 8 Sat Jul 10, 1993 C128.JBEE (Forwarded) I believe the file is Graphic view #7845. ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 9 Mon Oct 18, 1993 J.ROBBINS16 [JBUS] (Forwarded) There's one better, "Scrapit!" file #'s 7720 & 7721, that will convert either way on doodles, ect,ect.. :) ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 10 Wed Dec 01, 1993 W.WILEY2 at 02:49 EST I have been asking around, and it MAY be that GeoCanvas or another ??? GEOS application out there WILL permit use of color in better res than 8x8 pixel areas. Perhaps someone can help me out with more info.... (someone take the floor please! I'm stepping aside now) -Will ------------ Category 6, Topic 29 Message 11 Thu Dec 02, 1993 S.VANDERARK [Steve VA] at 02:34 EST GEOS operates in high-resolution mode, so all GEOS applications do as well. The graphics mode is what determines the color option. Of course, most GEOS apps don't support color at all. Both geoCanvas and geoPaint operate in high- res and therefore have the same color setups. There is an app on QLink that will let you view multi-color graphics from within GEOS, but you can't work on them, only look at them. There are also conversion programs that will let you import a multi-color (sometimes called medium-resolution or Koala format) image into high-res. But in GEOS you always work within the constraints of the high-res mode of the Commodore's video chip. There is nothing that says that a GEOS app can't switch modes, by the way, except for the fact that one of GEOS' claims to fame is that things like graphics can be shared between apps, like using a geoPaint graphic image in geoPublish. If you created an image in a different mode, it wouldn't e interchangeable with the rest of GEOS apps. Steve Vander Ark ------------ ************ Topic 30 Sun Jun 27, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 17:58 EDT Sub: Uninstalling with MAVERICK v5 A few questions on how to uninstall a used GEOS program 4 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 30 Message 1 Sun Jun 27, 1993 D.SIMMONS13 [David] at 18:03 EDT I recently bought a few used GEOS program, and would like to make them work with my original boot disk. When I bought these programs, the original owner also gave me the boot disk he was using, so I can use the programs, but not with my own boot disk. I was told by a friend of mine that there is a program called Maverick which can be used to uninstall these programs. I do not have this program, but the person I bought them from do, but he does not know how to use it to uninstall them. Could someone give me the exact steps on how to do this, so I can mail him the instructions. Thanks David ------------ Category 6, Topic 30 Message 2 Mon Jun 28, 1993 CBM-MARK at 21:42 EDT The documentation that came with Maverick will explain how to de-protect GEOS software. It's really nothing more than selecting the GEOS parameters from the Maverick menu and following the prompts. ~~Mark~~ ------------ Category 6, Topic 30 Message 3 Thu Jul 01, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 23:49 EDT Another, and possibly cheaper, way out of it, is to use some sort of Kernal ID changer. I think there are a couple of them out there, but the ones I know are, well, the ones I wrote :) I _think_ these are in the libraries here, but am not sure. The way to use them: (1) Boot with the "other" boot disk (not the one you want to use normally) and run the program GetID. Write down the for digit hexidecimal number it returns. (2) Boot with your normal boot disk, and again run GetID and write down the hexidecimal number. (3) Make two copies of NewID, renaming them appropriately, and configuring them in the info box for the two ID's you have written down. (4) Before running a program originally installed under the "other" boot disk, simply click on the appropriate copy of NewID. (5) Use the other copy of NewID to restore your Kernal's runtime ID to the original value to use software installed with your normal boot disk. Sound like a lot of steps, but the first three are one-time setup (and easy at that), and thereafter you only have to do either step (4) or step (5) before running whatever software. Note that this does require that you have access to BOTH boot disks... right now, I don't have any software that can "sniff" applications and figure out what was the ID of the Kernal used to install it. All of this is documented in my KernalID archive. I will check to see if that program is indeed online. -Rob ------------ Category 6, Topic 30 Message 4 Fri Jul 02, 1993 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 00:07 EDT I have uploaded the file "KernalID.arc" to the GEOS utilities library. Once it is live, the file number will be 12785. Documentation is included in geoWrite format. -Rob ------------ ************ Topic 31 Sun Nov 28, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 12:04 EST Sub: GEOS USERS! SOUND OFF! This is a catch all topic. Let us know how you use GEOS, that you use it, Or anything you have heard concerning GEOS. You could also let us know why you like it. Happy GEOSing !!! :) -Tim 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 31 Message 1 Sun Nov 28, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 12:11 EST I use Geos to publish my newsletters, write letters, etc.. I also use it f or flyers. I use it at work a lot, since I have a C=64 with two 1541's, and an Epson printer. I have a Ramdrive that I carry between home and work (two megger). I use Gateway as my desktop the majority of time, but I am easing myself into more geoSHELL use. I'm looking forward to hearing from others. :) -Tim ------------ ************ Topic 32 Tue Nov 30, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] at 21:15 EST Sub: How about a way to delete How about a program to delete PAGES in geoPUPLISH documents I've always had a problem with not having this ability. Question: Is this Possible? can this be done somehow? 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 32 Message 1 Fri Dec 03, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 18:27 EST You know, besides just deleteing the regions on a page, I don't think there is a way to delete a page. And by deleting regions, you still have the page. A page deletion, would be a handy ability to have.:::I wonder if FINALLY will have page deletion::::Maurice, are you out there? I know this will be food for thought for some of those excellent programmers out there. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 32 Message 2 Sun Dec 05, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI ON Q] at 00:38 EST I sure hape so I have some pub files that could use about 5 pages less. and was supprised to find no way to DELETE THE whole page from the doc. Thanks in advance Jim ------------ ************ Topic 33 Sun Dec 05, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 22:07 EST Sub: Morphing In GEOS geoMorph comes to GEOS! 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 1 Sun Dec 05, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 22:13 EST Watch for geoMorph to appear in the libraries here just as soon as it is made live. I will be available to answer any questions concerning the program. Feel free to post them here. Also, post any comments, good or bad here about this new GEOS application. The program includes a GeoWrite file describing each function of the program along with a brief tutorial. It only consists of 7 or 8 pages, so it may not be as detailed as it could be, but this is a shareware program with a plus. The 'plus' is that nobody has to feel guilty about not sending in the shareware fee. Go ahead and use the program, but provide feedback. If the documentation is not clear enough for everyone, just post your question here, and it will be promptly answered. Thanks, and enjoy. Maurice Randall ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 2 Sun Dec 05, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 23:09 EST That's great, Maurice. I'll be looking forward to using your program. = Thanks for programming such innovative, and creative software I for one appreciate it. :) -Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 3 Mon Dec 06, 1993 L.SCHONDER [Lou] at 00:10 EST Thanks, Maurice! I'm looking forward to morphing myself into a Greek God! ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 4 Wed Dec 08, 1993 B.KIRKLAND at 06:17 EST I tried it, and loved it. However, there was one problem I encountered. (I don't think it's a bug thou.) I had a drawing of three rectangles stacked on top of eachother. Then I morphed the By Maurice Randall with the Boxes. After about 5-6 frames, it started moving one dot back and forth. It would not go any further. Just thought I'd let you know. Oh, and I could not recreate the same thing again. Even with the same photoscrap. Bob ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 5 Wed Dec 08, 1993 M.RANDALL2 [Maurice] at 23:36 EST Actually, that is not really a bug as much as it is just a nuisance. What is happening is that occasionally, and there has to be a certain number of pixels on a scan line, the left scan and right scan will interfere with each other. The right scan will position a pixel in one spot and the left scan will move it back to where it thinks it should go. You will only notice this when the primary image is almost completely taken on the appearance of the secondary image. You can at this point just freeze the frame, copy it to a photo scrap and edit it with GeoPaint. Or, you could go to the control panel and turn off either the left or right scan and then continue on and it will finish processing correctly. This is the nice thing about being able to adjust the control settings between each frame. This little problem is being addressed in the commercial version of the program. Also a better morphing when both the horizontal and vertical scans are turned on is being addressed. This program started out as just an idea to see if it could be done and especially on a 1 mhz machine. I'm surprised that it actually scoots along as fast as it does considering how much processing is taking place. Creating the interface for this program took no time at all, it was all the mathematical routines contained in it that I spent all the time on. To the user it is very easy to use, and looks simple, but inside those little guys are just working their buns off. ------------ Category 6, Topic 33 Message 6 Thu Dec 09, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 00:40 EST I just came from a user meeting where Maurice was demoing this program. It has great potential. You owe it to yourself to DL it. :) -Tim ------------ ************ Topic 34 Tue Dec 07, 1993 F.WILSON4 at 20:51 EST Sub: GeoPaint and My Printer Problem :/ ? I have a Seikosha Sp-1000VC and an Star SL-10C both of them cut off the right half of the picture and the measurements are not accurate. What's up? :/ 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 34 Message 1 Tue Dec 07, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 21:39 EST All printers which emulate Commodore 1525 or MPS-801/2/3 type printers suffer from this problem, because they all output based on a 60 dpi (dots per inch) resolution, and GEOS (and its applications) were designed for an 80 dpi standard. This means that when you print out something that uses more than 480 dots per line, you lose part of the image to the lack of printer resolution. There ARE some intelligent printer drivers around for printers like yours that will 'dither' the image down from 640 dots per line to 480. You lose detail, but you get the whole image this way. I don't believe we have any of these drivers online as yet, but will have them up here before too long - so be looking for these. All in all, though, I heartily recommend a printer upgrade; your documents will all come out looking much better. ------------ Category 6, Topic 34 Message 2 Wed Dec 08, 1993 F.WILSON4 at 08:05 EST Thanks Doug for your answer. I talked to Tim last evening and he suggested a Panisonic printer. If I understand right the Commie prints on Epson Emulation If this is a fact would an epson printer work or do you suggest aginst it? Thank you once again, FRED ------------ Category 6, Topic 34 Message 3 Thu Dec 09, 1993 GEOS-TIM at 00:52 EST I will be getting a printer driver uploaded in the next few weeks for the Star SL10C. It will print ou in 80 dpi if you have the chip upgrade. Actually, I'll be getting it Dec 17th. It may solve some of your problems. Concerning the Epson, I have an old Epson RX-80 that works fine. I am a Epson8pin3pass driver and a Epson8pin80dpi driver. These drivers give me excellent printouts.(whoops:I am not a Epson8pin3pass driver, I use it. LOL) These drivers work with my Epson and Panasonic printers, and printout in 80 dpi. Those drivers may be file# 9223, but I'm not sure. :)-Tim ------------ Category 6, Topic 34 Message 4 Thu Dec 09, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 02:14 EST Practically any Epson or Epson-compatible that has come out since the Epson FX- 80 will work great. I personally like the Panasonic printers myself for low- cost dot-matrix. Panasonic has great Epson emulation, and their printers use a re-inking pad inside the ribbon cartridge that keeps the output nice and dark for a long time. ------------ Category 6, Topic 34 Message 5 Thu Dec 09, 1993 C128.JBEE at 07:43 EST Not to mention you can easily reink the Panasonic ribbons to always keep the output nice and dark. ------------ ************ Topic 35 Thu Dec 09, 1993 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 03:30 EST Sub: Using 1571 with a C=64 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 35 Message 2 Thu Dec 09, 1993 I.MCKINNEY [TheBigMac] at 03:48 EST My 128 nd 1581 died a couple weeks ago. Until I can get a replacement, I am using a stock 64 borrowed from a friend. How can I get GEOS to load files from a 1571 formatted disk? Everything I have for GEOS is backed up on 1571 disks. I even had to go back to using my original boot disks as the backups I made (1541 & 1571) won't load. ANY help will be appreciated. ------------ Category 6, Topic 35 Message 3 Thu Dec 09, 1993 H.HERMAN1 at 06:54 EST BigMac, A 1571 attached to a C64 will initialize itself in its 1541 emulation mode. You need to tell the 1571 to become a 1571 again, in order that it can access 1571 disks. The following (entered in direct mode, and followed by a <CR>) will do this: open15,8,15,"u0>m1":close15 Once this is entered, you should be able to load and run all programs on all disks, 1571 or 1541. For convenience, you might want to format a 1541 disk, and save the above entry as a file on it. This way, when you start out, all you need to do is place the disk into the 1571, and LOAD"*",8 RUN Or, even easier, just PRESS Comkey/Run-Stop. :) Then you can swap out the disk and run the 1571 programs. Howie Oooops... That one line program that you would save to disk would look like: 10 open15,8,15:print#15,"u0>m1":close15 If you need any help getting this onto disk, or to work properly, let us know. ------------ ************ Topic 36 Fri Dec 10, 1993 B.KIRKLAND at 02:26 EST Sub: Koala Pad and Geos 128 v2.0 Has anyone made or does anyone use a good driver for that setup? Bob 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 36 Message 1 Fri Dec 10, 1993 C128.JBEE at 09:06 EST As far as I know (as stated in the docs) GEOS 128 V2.0 does not work with the Koala pad. I did upload a .SFX file a while ago containing the Koala pad drivers for earlier versions. ------------ ************ Topic 37 Tue Dec 14, 1993 D.BOBER [RENTaLASER] at 00:52 EST Sub: geoTerm Questions about geoTerm. 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 1 Tue Dec 14, 1993 D.BOBER [RENTaLASER] at 00:55 EST Will there someday be an patch for geoTerm patch for us GEOS users that have a 2400 baud modem. I like the program, but don't use it much because of the 1200 baud limit. ------------ Category 6, Topic 37 Message 2 Wed Dec 15, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 06:51 EST We've never had contact with the author on this, and we have no source code for it, so if a patch is ever done, it would have to be done the hard way. I'd be a little concerned that the program couldn't keep up with 2400 baud as far as output to to the screen goes, at least without major rewrites of that portion of the code as well. Anyway, we have no plans on upgrading it ourselves, but we'd be open to adopting a working patch from anyone capable of doing it. ------------ ************ Topic 38 Fri Dec 17, 1993 S.EYRSE at 03:39 EST Sub: Was there EVER a GeosProgrmer V2.0? I would like to know if this prog. ever came out as a update? I have read here about it but that's all 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 38 Message 1 Sat Dec 18, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 08:09 EST No, there was never a release for GEOPROGRAMMER 2.0. There is a 2.0 version of GEODEBUGGER, but this was never an officially supported version, nor was it ever placed on the release disks. ------------ ************ Topic 39 Fri Dec 17, 1993 J.PACKARD [CAPRI] at 22:45 EST Sub: Q-LINK The GEOS Area on Q-Link Is No More........ It Has Been Bought by CMD so I was Told.. Just Thought I'd Pass This On. 1 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 39 Message 1 Sat Dec 18, 1993 C.OGLE2 [V128_B.Stick] at 01:06 EST What does that mean, Capri? When I left Q 8 months ago, the Geos area was the only one that was getting any kind of activity... What else is going on over there these days? Are the DL libraries still 'non- working'? Breadstick ------------ ************ Topic 40 Sat Dec 18, 1993 S.EYRSE at 03:48 EST Sub: Q-Link GEOS IS GONE. sorta.. The message bases for Q-Links' GEOS areas are gone. THEY "WILL BE MOVED TO THE CMD AREA" q-says 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 6, Topic 40 Message 1 Sat Dec 18, 1993 S.EYRSE at 04:00 EST By sorta the files are still there but to get to them you must use a search.. to find what you want. When they shut down the Geos area the normal entry into thelibs. went away also. The word from Q is that "as CMD now owns GEOS for commodore ect all." it is up to them to make a GEOS area for those of us who still use Q.. So Doug..as this is "second hand info" posted by a third party. Take the time and let all of us USERS know what the H}{L is going on. STEVE. ------------ Category 6, Topic 40 Message 2 Sat Dec 18, 1993 CMD-DOUG at 07:14 EST I'll have to check it out a little myself, but I can guess what has happened. Geoworks contacted us about that area, as they obviously were no longer going to handle it. We told them that with Q's library problems we had no desire to take over a support area there that could not be properly maintained - but that if Q wished to keep the message areas and current download files for GEOS under their own maintenance that they could. But the outdated information on where to get GEOS, GEOS support, and stuff like the way out-of-date info on geoWorld had to go. We left it up to Geoworks to talk to Q about this, and apparently Q decided they didn't wish to maintain things themselves (no big suprise there, eh?). OFFICIAL ONLINE GEOS SUPPORT is now HERE - on GEnie. As for GEOS Support in our area on Q, it's nothing they've contacted us about or anything we told them. ------------