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rea 5-7 nor ************ Topic 5 Sun Nov 10, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 20:09 EST Sub: LDS' Personal Ancestral File LDS' CP/M version of PAF is file compatable with PAF on all other computer platforms. LDS no longer suppports the CP/M version, however, they have begun to grant permission to freely distribute the program. 10 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 1 Sun Nov 10, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 20:12 EST Apparently LDS has given the green light to freely distribute the CP/M version of PAF, since I just received a copy on a floppy, from a friend. The four disks came packaged as four LIBraried files on the one 3 1/2" disk. I haven't had the chance to get things up and running yet on my C128. And, complicating matters, I know *NOTHING* about geneology. However, I *DO* intend to learn... I'd like to upload this program (800k in LBR files, so I quess 1.4 Megs or so once delibraried and uncrunched.) Could someone who lives in/near SLC contact the powers that be at LDS, and confirm that it is okey to have the program here? It appears that PAF will be able to run from the 1581 disk. (GEDCOM and its related files won't fit, so they'll have to be on a seperate disks.) Thanks to my newly found info on geneology, I *KNOW* what GEDCOM is for, and what it does, and that it is needed only rarely. Since it appears that PAF will be doing a lot of disk accessing, it seems best to have it run from the REU, but there may just not be enough ram in there to fit everything. It's no prob to change the REU into an A or B drive, but getting more than 500k into it has me stumped for now... Howie P.S. This is all so new to me, I don't even know how to spell genealogy correctly. :/ PP.S. For those who were asking about using overlay files as a means to overcome the 64k memory limit, well PAF's One plus Meg of programs that run in less than CP/M's 64k is one example. :) ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 2 Mon Nov 11, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 00:39 EST Sounds like a heck of a program! If you can upload it I would say to .ark the files. I believe .ark squeezes them vs. lib which just stores them. Could be wrong as I know next to nothing about CP/M. ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 3 Mon Nov 11, 1991 M.DULSKI1 [Mark] at 21:41 CST Howie, As soon as you find out if it's OK to upload could you let us know when you do it? The PAF is one program I'ld like to take a look at. Been doing my family ancestry for the past few years off & on. I'm now using GEOfile for my family groups but I think PAF would be far more versatile. Hopefully it won't take too much to confiqure for the 128, don't know a whole lot about cp/m. I take it you'll upload this to the CP/M Roundtable libraries if you get the OK? Mark ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 4 Tue Nov 12, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 00:35 EST JBEE, LIBraried files seems to have evolved into a sort of standard recently. At least most everything I've downloaded seems to be in that form. The members (files) of the library are all crunched. I don't know however if crunching shrinks them better than arcing, however. Several utilites will do the delibrarying and uncrunching at one time, so for the user it's as easy one way or the other. The reason that PAF is in four librarys is that the original program came grouped on 4 disk, each for seperate functions. I still don't know how necessary documentation may be. However, I've been told that the dos version runs pretty much like the CP/M one, and that can be purchased, along with a printed Manual. Well, let's see if LDS will allow these to get uploaded... ----- Mark, I'm still trying to find out who and where to write to at LDS to get their permission to upload PFS. If anyone might know, please let me know. Actually, now that you mention it, the CP/M RoundTable Library might be the place for these files. I'll let JBEE or Bill decide this one. :) Since I am not sure how long the delay might be, and since LDS is allowing PFS (CP/M version only) to be distributed, so long as it is done on a free (no- profit) basis, I'll send a disk to you now. Send me a pre-formatted floppy (cbm CP/M), along with a mailer with return postage. Also, include a note reminding me why. :) Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 5 Tue Nov 12, 1991 M.DULSKI1 [Mark] at 21:35 CST Howie, Just remembered I have a book about the LDS Family History Library so I looked up the PAF in the index. Found this address you might try: For information on LDS computer prgs and system requirements: Ancestral File Operation Unit Family History Department 50 East North Temple Street Salt Lake City, UT 84150 There is another address for ordering any of their computer prgs, pamphlets, forms, etc. Probably just a distribution ctr. Mark ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 6 Tue Nov 12, 1991 C128-BILL [Bill] at 23:38 EST Yes, the place for this program should be the CP/M RoundTable After someone gets the address/phone number or the copyright holder. Could the addres/phone info be in the docs, somewhere? Lemme know, and I'll call them, pronto. (...and yes, ARKed files would be great!) ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 7 Tue Nov 12, 1991 C128-BILL [Bill] at 23:41 EST Thanx for the info, Mark! ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 8 Wed Nov 13, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 02:21 EST Bill, Here's the info about the person to contact, at the same address that Mark has: A. Gregory Brown Family History Dept. Copyright Coordinator 50 East North Temple Street Salt Lake City Utah 84150 Let me know when you get the AOK!! :) Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 9 Sat Nov 23, 1991 M.MCCORMIC10 [Mike Mc-] at 21:17 EST Howie- Just a reminder.GENIE has a genealogy RT.(I'm a member)You might get all your answers there. It would be M8009;3 Cat.3 (I think). Mike Mc- ------------ Category 3, Topic 5 Message 10 Mon Nov 25, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 02:16 EST Thanks Mike Mc! I was looking for the page number. I was there before, but forgot where it was... :/ Howie ------------ Topic 7 Mon Sep 16, 1991 DR.EVIL (Forwarded) Sub: Vizastar File Compatibility Lotus 1-2-3 compatible? 5 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 7 Message 1 Mon Sep 16, 1991 DR.EVIL (Forwarded) A question from a friend: "Are Vizastar data files comaptible with Lotus 1-2-3?" My friend heard that they were. I'm skeptical. If they are, has anyone actually tried to move a VS file to Lotus? Kent ------------ Category 3, Topic 7 Message 2 Tue Sep 17, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) I doubt that very much. Though, I do believe 1-2-3 can import sequential data with data and fields terminated with commas and returns. That is a basic standard with any spreadsheet and is also supported by many of the 8 bit spreadsheets. As for passing calculation fields and such, I doubt that very much, though I wouldn't say no :) ------------ Category 3, Topic 7 Message 3 Tue Sep 17, 1991 C128-BILL [Bill] (Forwarded) My understanding is that VizaStar uses some form of very simple compression technique for some disk file information, however this may be defeated by using the Print To Run option (a .PRT disk file), then filtering the CBM ASCII files to ASCII, if needed. Null- modeming to another computer at 38.4K using a SwiftLink-232, or using a 1571 will take care of our end. I'm not a 1-2-3 fan, though so how to import the data (without formulas) is out of my area. See the VZA* manual, pages 8-6 and 9-7 for the gory details, or let me know and I can copy those pages for you Kent, and fax 'em along. I don't have Lotus 1-2-3, but did translate one file for a friend last year from VZA* to Excel (raw data only, no formulas). It was a while back, so I'd have to play around with it again to make sure this is 100% correct. ------------ Category 3, Topic 7 Message 4 Wed Sep 18, 1991 H.HERMAN1 (Forwarded) Wouldn't Viza and Lotus allow import/export of either DIF or SYLK formatted files? I always thought that this was how things got traded between programs. [Or, JBEE's sugestion of using <CR>'s to delimit should make it transportable, if only numbers (not formulas) are wanted.] You might still have a few global find-and-replaces to do if formulas do not agree, such as changing @sqrt with @sqr. Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 7 Message 5 Sat Sep 21, 1991 DR.EVIL (Forwarded) Thanks for the suggestions. Those are all workable methods. However, my friend was basically looking for a "plug and play" method, which is why I was skeptical. He was basically hoping to use Big Blue Reader to move the file over and "poof" it would work. ------------ ************ Topic 12 Sat May 30, 1992 E.TOLBERT (Forwarded) Sub: Fontmaster II and Okidata 120 Need to know if it is possible to get high quality print from Fontmaster II and a Okidata 120 printer. Can't find the driver within Fontmaster II so had to use 1525 and MPS series print drivers. Help me if you can. 6 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 1 Sun May 31, 1992 PAUL-MB (Forwarded) Although I'm not familiar with the Oki 120 and the modes it emulates, try setting your 120 to "Epson mode." Then use FontMaster II's setup and select "Epson FX/MX/RX (80)." Let us know how it goes! Paul ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 2 Sun May 31, 1992 E.TOLBERT (Forwarded) Good idea. Now let me pray that I can still find my long misplaced manual. Have a great one Paul ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 3 Sun May 31, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Going by the topic about the Okidata in Cat#6, I don't believe the Okidata has the ability to emulate an Epson. ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 4 Sun May 31, 1992 PAUL-MB (Forwarded) Well, then, if the 120 can't emulate an Epson, you're stuck with text mod... Hold on a second. I remember a flyer with FontMaster where Xetec offered a font disk for 1525/compats. Dunno if Xetec would still sell it, but you might want to keep an eye out at user groups, etc. :) Paul (: ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 5 Fri Jul 31, 1992 E.TOLBERT at 22:44 EDT Please delete this message. I upgraded to a Panasonic KX-P1091. Thanks for all the suggestions. ------------ Category 3, Topic 12 Message 6 Fri Jul 31, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 23:22 EDT You are welcomed by all :) Topic will be nuked shortly. ------------ 3 ?rea 20 nor ************ Topic 20 Thu Nov 14, 1991 D.SMITH244 at 01:21 EST Sub: Using the REU to best advantage? I've seen folks talking about running programs from the REU (in 128 and CP/M modes). Are we talking about putting them into the REU using that incredibly SSSLOOOOOOOOW Commodore RamDos or am I missing something? 10 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 1 Thu Nov 14, 1991 D.SMITH244 at 01:24 EST H.Herman--you mentioned using the REU to run the LDS' PAF program from, and you also counselled JBEE to run his database from the REU if at all possible. I don't have RamLink or any of these gadgets to autoexec a program on powerup. Are we talking about using the Commodore RamDos to load a program into the REU? That thing takes forever!!! or am I missing something. As it is, the only real use my REU gets is for DesTerm and CS-DOS. Can I get more out of it than that? ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 2 Thu Nov 14, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 11:49 EST D.Smith244, Well, yes. In order to use the REU, files must first be written over into it first. Depending upon how this is done, it may not be too fast. Two suggrestions off the top of my head: [1] Install CMD's JiffyDos which will speed up the process, or [2] always keep the REU powered, so whatever is in there is always instantly available. RAMLink will do this. It always keeps power on to BOTH its own ram and the REU ram. It is true however, that when different programs access the REU in different ways, the most recent tends to wipe out the earlier memory. An exception to this is REU memeory management, which CS/DOS allows. I am able to use the REU with BOTH CS/DOS and Pocket's AWriter3, Filer2, and Planner2. Not without some care however, else one WILL over-write the other. Since I've gotten RAMLink, however, trading uses of the REU is no longer a prob. Permanent storage of data files is on RL's ram, and this writes things over into the REU super-fast, and very quietly. :) Howie P.S. As to having an autoexec. Every 128 will autoboot, and using this feature with Basic you can perform just about any task, unattended. I do this all the time to run thru my RAMLink and copy over to disk close to 800k of constantly changing data files. Having back-ups without me here to do them is nice. ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 3 Thu Dec 19, 1991 D.LAURIA1 [Zappo!] at 21:03 EST By far the system with the best REU support is GEOS, but I have always been bothered by the fact that one must manually copy files over upon booting. This should be possible from an autoexec file. Well, lo and behold, I read in the latest copy of Run about a program called QWICKSTASH by John Howard. This autoexec will copy files into the REU on booting GEOS, with no user intervention. Sounds Great! Except that it doesn't seem to be up here on the G. So, if anyone out there has a copy, or belongs to QLINK, how 'bout putting it up so we poor GENies can run it through!! ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 4 Fri Dec 20, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 00:12 EST That is the SLOW and TEDIOUS way to do things. If you buy the Redstorm disk from Joe Buckley it comes with a utility to load and save the REU contents as one big file! You can stuff your REU full with Joe's program before you finish copying five files the other way. Not to mention there is a certain appeal to saving the reu contains completely as one disk file, it lets you load different enviroments depending on what you want to do (Ex. geoPublish vs geoWrite) with different fonts, scraps, or paint pictures. I think other utilities also exist as shareware by different authors. ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 5 Sat Dec 21, 1991 D.LAURIA1 [Zappo!] at 14:28 EST Thanks for the tip, JBEE. Do you have Joe's address and pricing info? ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 6 Sun Dec 22, 1991 HOWIE-CBM [H.HERMAN1] at 10:31 EST Zappo, If you're running GEOS in 128 mode, you may want to hold off on that for a day or two... I'm trying to get together (read: write a mini-doc file) for two tiny Basic routines that make image files of the REU. They work with CP/M and CS/DOS. I tried Basic8, but B8 always seems to want to fill up the REU, no matter what, so here it makes no difference. It might be interesting to see if it works for GEOS. If it does, and I think I have this right, then an RBOOT should have GEOS up and running. JBEE knows more bout boot. It does not have any burst loading routines, however. I'll try to write something in the next couple days, and allow a few for sysop review. Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 7 Mon Dec 23, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 03:44 EST Hi Zappo, Joe Buckley Redstorm Systems 464 Beale St W Quincy, MA 02169 voice # 1-617-472-5661 call in the evening from 6-8 EST! This is a home number so please be polite about the calling times. Program name is "reu zap" and runs under Geos. His Redstorm disk with all his programs costs $20. ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 8 Mon Dec 23, 1991 D.LAURIA1 [Zappo!] at 19:00 EST Thanks for all the info everybody. I'm always glad to see there's still so much going on in Commodoreland. Getting back to REU support, ARC 2.50 has some support for 17xx ram expansion. It's a godsend if you've only got 1541 drives and have to unARC something large. Also, since I liked this program so much I wrote a patch to set the date automatically if you've installed a SMARTWATCH chip (like Melvin Montgomery's.) If anyone's interested, I'll upload it as soon as I track down the author. ------------ Category 3, Topic 20 Message 9 Tue Dec 24, 1991 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 04:43 EST Upload that patch :) I do not have the smartwatch yet but I would be interested in seeing the patch. ------------ 3 ?rea 22-23 nor ************ Topic 22 Fri Feb 07, 1992 D.GILMAN2 (Forwarded) Sub: Checkfree for C-64? Is there a C-64 program that will allow a user to use Checkfree? 8 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 1 Fri Feb 07, 1992 D.GILMAN2 (Forwarded) Someone asked me if I used Checkfree. I said, "No, I'm on a C-64 and Checkfree doesn't have a C-64 compatible program. He said, "Well, I use Checkfree, but I don't use their program! Of course, though, I have an IBM compatible! Is there a C-64 compatible program that will enable the use of Checkfree? Mad Banger ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 2 Sat Feb 08, 1992 HOWIE-CBM (Forwarded) Hmmm... I suspect Checkfree would have the answer as to whether you must use a dedicated terminal package, or if you could use any. Do they have an 800 telephone number? I've seen their ads, but never had any interest. I use a C-64 package with Manufacture's Hanover Trust that pays bills and lets you do a lot more banking things. :) Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 3 Sat Feb 08, 1992 D.GILMAN2 (Forwarded) Howie, Just in case I can't find any info about a C64 program compatible with Checkfree, can you tell me more about Manufacture's Hanover Trust? Mad Banger ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 4 Sun Feb 09, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) Shawmut Bank has a check paying and account program that lets you access their net with any PC. It costs $50 a month for a business and $20+ for a personal account so I skipped it for the cost and security reasons. Shawmut is in MA but I believe the net they used is actually based in NY somewhere. Open up your local yellow pages and let your fingers do the walking! ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 5 Sun Feb 09, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] (Forwarded) BTW: As a topic cop I am moving this to Cat#3. ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 6 Sun Feb 09, 1992 D.GILMAN2 at 11:57 PST JBEE, When the topic wasn't where I left it, I suspected that's what happened. Indexed topics and found the new location. Thanks, Topic Cop. I really do appreciate it. Mad Banger ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 7 Tue Feb 11, 1992 C128.JBEE [* Sysop *] at 02:44 EST You're welcome :) ------------ Category 3, Topic 22 Message 8 Thu Feb 13, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 03:16 EST Manufacturer's Hanover Trust calls their program Excel. There are charges associated with it, but a lot less than Shawmut Bank. I am not sure if this is a local number, but you might try calling: 1-800-MH-EXCEL Howie ------------ ************ Topic 23 Tue Mar 10, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 19:43 EST Sub: C= to IBM on the 128 How do you convert large files to IBM format 3 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 23 Message 1 Tue Mar 10, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 19:46 EST I have a 128D with a 512K REU and am trying to DL large IBM files to my 128 and then convert to MFM format using MSDOS CONVERSION. The problem is that MSDOS will only handle files of 45K or less. Will BIG BLUE reader handle larger stuff? Will Big Blue reader make use of the REU or what is the best way to do this? ------------ Category 3, Topic 23 Message 2 Wed Mar 11, 1992 R.KNOP1 [Rob Knop] at 01:06 EST Big Blue Reader will handle large files; I think it handles arbitrarily large files, but the largest I've tried have been just over 100K. (But that's already pretty darn large!) BBR does use the REU for buffer space; so, you could copy 512K worth of files in one operation without having to do multiple disk swaps. -Rob ------------ Category 3, Topic 23 Message 3 Wed Mar 11, 1992 A.MILLER46 at 20:01 EST Thanks for the info Rob. I guess if the guys at work want to see the bottom half of all the nubile young things in the IBM GIF files they will have to kick in the $32 or what ever it is. ------------ 3 ?rea 28 nor ************ Topic 28 Thu Sep 03, 1992 J.MCGEE2 [Jack] at 20:12 EDT Sub: Petscii-Ascii Conversion on the IBM I need to convert Commodore text to ASCII on my IBM. Is anyone aware of an IBM program that does this? Would be a lot faster to do it on the IBM, plus its already there. 2 message(s) total. ************ ------------ Category 3, Topic 28 Message 1 Fri Sep 04, 1992 HOWIE-CBM at 05:10 EDT Yes, there is a DOS program that will do petascii to ascii translation. However, for the life of me I cannot recall its name. Have you asked this question in the IBM PC Roundtable? Howie ------------ Category 3, Topic 28 Message 2 Fri Sep 04, 1992 J.MCGEE2 [Jack] at 21:17 EDT -=-=-=- To: HOWIE-CBM -=-=-=- > Have you asked this question in the IBM PC Roundtable? No, but I'm headed there to do that now. I searched the IBM libraries using all the keywords one would assume, but no joy. ------------