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- Topic 6 Date: Tue Nov 26, 1985
- DEB at 16:36 EST
- Sub: Compiler Advice
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- Anyone with experience or advice on the following compilers, can you
- please leave your comments here...?
- 12 message(s) total
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- Category 3, Topic 6
- Message 1 Tue Nov 26, 1985
- DEB at 16:39 EST
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- Just received this in my Mail. Sam would like some advice before
- buying a Compiler. Whats been your experience:
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- Sub: compilers
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- Anyone out there have any suggestions or comments about the following
- compilers I am deciding on?
- 1) BLITZ
- 2) ABACUS BASIC COMPILER
- 3) DTL-BASIC
- any comments or prvious experience with these would be most helpful....
-
- Thanx...Sam Lewit (SALEWIT)
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- Message 2 Wed Nov 27, 1985
- CKAISER at 21:14 EST
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- BLITZ! is my personal favorite, as it is the *only* compiler I've found
- that produces code that runs fast enough to service the RS-232 port
- for 1200 baud terminal program operation. DTL-BASIC, now marketed
- by CodeWriter, makes nice small run files, buyt *requires* that its
- Run-time Library be present on the same disk. It is a fine compiler,
- but the code it produces cannot keep up at 1200, so it is not well
- suited for rapid I/O tasks such as 1200 baud terminals. Your
- applications may not need this sort of blistering speed.
-
- I have not used it, but f5om messages I've answered concerning it, the
- ABACUS compiler sounds like a sub-set of blitz that has problems
- with most forms of I/O, though it might be suitable for games without
- any more complicated i/o than booting the game from disk.
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- I recommend BLITZ! highly. It is extremely simple to use, and it does a
- fine job. It has its peculiarities, buut for the most part, is about
- the fastest, easiest to use compiler being offered for the 64 today.
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- And SKYLES didn't pay me a nickel to say that. Its a good product.
-
- -Chris
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- Message 3 Wed Nov 27, 1985
- P.OGREN at 23:11 PST
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- I can't speak for the other compilers but Blitz has worked fine for me.
- It allows multiple programs to be compiled together and, yes you can
- make 1200 baud work fine. It's fast and easy to use. It can be used with
- one or two drives. Also can be deblitzed.
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- Message 4 Thu Nov 28, 1985
- GRAFIX at 21:16 EST
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- All in all, BLITZ seems to be the
- lesser of the evils. All of the compilers
- seem to have 'bugs', but BLITZ seems to
- mask them the best!
- BLITZ-Very fast, but has problems keeping
- track of string space when RS-232 and
- multiple string arrays are used. The
- problems will vary depending on the size
- and number ofarrays used.
-
- BASIC-64 - Very complex compiler, and can
- produce true ML code. This means you
- can switch out the BASIC ROM and make
- use of that memory space. BUT, a simple 20 block BASIC program will compile to
- a HUGE 58 block ML program or 47 block
- P-Code program. BASIC-64 seems to have
- the most to offer, but also WORST
- docs, and the MOST problems. Any project
- can become a nightmare with BASIC-64.
-
- AUSTRO COMP.-I don't know if this is
- a recognized compiler, but it is very
- close to BLITZ. It does not handle the
- RS-232 as well as BLITZ, but other than
- that, seems to work well, plus, it
- produces smaller P-Code files than
- BLITZ does.
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- Message 5 Fri Dec 06, 1985
- FAFHRD at 19:05 EST
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- Anyone seen the Pro Compiler?
- I have heard it creates true op-code,
- rather than p-code...I'd like to
- hear some comments before i lay out
- 100 dollars.
- . Faf
- <Hm, pardon that ., i just logged
- off of a TBBS!>
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- Message 6 Fri Dec 06, 1985
- DEB at 19:55 EST
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- Access software was supposed to have released such a compiler last JANUARY!
- Is your Pro Compiler from Access???
- *deb!*
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- Message 7 Sat Dec 07, 1985
- FAFHRD at 16:56 EST
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- Hmm... not sure.
- Faf
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- Message 8 Fri May 23, 1986
- SURVIVOR at 22:45 EDT
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- I have BLITZ!, BASIC 64, and CODEWRITER. In almost 100% of all areas
- BLITZ! wins hands down. Easy to use, fast, no bugs, works with almost all
- BASIC programs.
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- I also have BASIC 128, and BLITZ! 128. Again Skyless did a good job. Had
- a few bugs with BLITZ! 128 at first, but update was recieved in the mail
- soon enough.
-
- Stephen Gutknecht
- Author of *ZBBS*
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- s
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- Message 9 Sat Jul 05, 1986
- D.ROMERO at 03:28 EDT
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- The only weakness I've found in Blitz! is its string nction
- handling... it can actually be slower than 2.0 BASIC!
-
- Yours In Commodore Computing...
- Don Romero
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- Message 10 Sat Jul 05, 1986
- SURVIVOR [S. Gutknecht] at 21:15 EDT
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- Blitz! 128 (the January release I have) has a """"""minor""""""
- bug.... will mess up with more then two FAST/SLOW commands!
- Just use POKE 53296,0 and ,1!
-
- Stephen Gutknecht
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- Message 11 Sun Jul 13, 1986
- DEB [*deb!*] at 16:14 EDT
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- Can BLITZ with the 64 be used if you are using STRING THING???
- ... or BLITZ 128 with Rickers' STRINGIE THINGIE???
-
- ** <<she hates garbage collects>>
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- Message 12 Sun Jul 13, 1986
- GRAFIX.M [Mike Hooper] at 16:24 EDT
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- BLITZ and STRING THING are VERY compatable! I'm running a BBS that I installed
- ST on, and then BLITZ. It's done WONDERS for Garbage Collection!
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