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Pardon me for dredging up some old messages, and sloppy editing, but I
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Date : 08-03-96      Time : 21:45
From: [e-mail] (Phd Software Systems)
Subject: Re: Programmers wanted!

Tim Lewis wrote:
 Ti> something that has me concerned.....When the SuperCPU is out and in
 Ti> people's hands, is new software going to be created?

I'm sure there will be - but it is a catch 22, why spend the time
developing something only to have it pirated by so many?

AJ> Why?  For the honor.  For doing your civic duty to use your talents
    to support the CBM community, which even commercial programmers
    benifit from in many ways.  And also for the money received,
    regardless of piracy.

 Ti> I see more and more people abandoning the C=3D market and not enough
 Ti> people helping out to fill the void! Where are the programmers?

Oh, they are out there.  I know of several good programs setting on
programmers disks because they don't want to give it away.  I don't

AJ> That is so tragicaly sad! It seems that about once a month I read
    in the newspaper about someone that murders thier children and then
    commits suicide.  I read about farmers that would rather destroy
    good food that they produced rather that sell it cheaply or give it
    away, even to a starving forign contry outside of thier market.  I
    have met people who would rather see thier (alegedly hard earned)
    posessions burn than let the needy get them.  No, I don't think
    these programmers are so warped (although some may well be).

    I think these programs are either so poor that they are embarassed
    to release them or that they are well written solutions looking for
    a problem, i.e. there is simply no demand for them. I don't believe
  anyone is just sitting on a good full ANSI C compiler for the 64/128,
    a good graphical WWW browser, PKZip 2.04g compression/decompression,
    a PGP package, a JAVA interpreter...


think it is so much a lack of programmers, but a lack of a decent
software company to market much of what has already been produced.

AJ> That may be true, but where there is a strong consumer market there
    will be good software companies.


If were a software reseller, and dropped into this group and saw
guys selling entire pirated CD collections of software, would you
want to get into this market?  Why do you think they all left in the
first place?

AJ> I think they simply left to join a market that has MUCH more
    piracy.  They did not get pushed out of the CBM market by pirates,
    but they were pulled into IBM and MAC (and even Amiga) markets by
    the shear pull of the $ potential.  The C64/128 market had become
    saturated and you can't expect poor owners of C64/128 computers
    to pay $1000/year or more for software like the richer owners of
    expensive computers.

    (Or I might say, "Wow!  Is there a big enough market to master and
     market a CD for C64/128 users?  Maybe I should get back into this
     market."  But then I would be a fool.)


Date : 08-04-96      Time : 10:46
Subject: Re: Programmers wanted!
From: [e-mail]

What does the C-64 need to revitalize its missing link in time? It needs
not to try to compete but only to become compatable. The wide variety
of emulators currently being produced has greatly helped but programming
on an emulator is to be simply put, 'anal'. No, what we need is a
Commodore 64 PC card in which would contain all the Commodore chips
"minimal cost at best" and a quality peice of software to work with
the hardware to emulate exactly how a commodore would work. The cost of
producing such a card would be probably just a few dollars if that,
and all that would be left would be for the last of us C-64 guru's to
write the software.  Robby

AJ>  I don't know about that "missing link in time" line.  You may have
     it exactly backwards.  What we need is "minimal cost" MS-DOS card
     to plug into our C64/128 (or Super CPU Rocket Socket).  It would
     probably cost just a few dollars if that.  ;)

     Actually a C64/128 plug in card for the IBM PC is not a bad idea.
     However, I think it would be more expensive than you imagine and
     not as cheap as the software emulators.


Date : 08-05-96      Time : 10:08
From: [e-mail] (Phd Software Systems)
Subject: Re: Programmers wanted!

Mo> What does the C-64 need to revitalize its missing link in time? It

The only thing we are short of to make the 64/128 line a viable
platform again, is an svga cartridge.  Who knows, with an SVGA
cartridge, the 64 may be the mythical cheap "net-in-a-box" everyone
is trying to build.

AJ> I don't think the 64/128 line can ever become a "viable"
    platform again.  It is true that the graphic display capabilities
    of the C64/128 is the one area that cannot be brought up to the
    level of modern PCs no matter how much time and brilliant
    programming that you allow it.  It would be nice to be able to
    display JPEG images in thier full glory using a C64/128 platform.
    Even if the SVGA cartridge was free, I doubt that many C64/128
    users would rush to buy the SVGA monitor needed to use it.

    A possibly "viable" alternative would be for CMD to develop a
    graphics card for the SuperCPU Rocket Socket using the old Amiga
    chip set.  This would not be as good as the SVGA cartridge but it
    would provide the C64/128 with much enhanced graphics capability
    and it produces an analog RGB signal which can be displayed on
    monitors already owned and used by many C128 users.  They might
    even be able to get the chips for a song.

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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Wanted joysticks
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:06:23 -0400
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Sticks made for the Atari 2600(and clones), Coleco, Commodore ,and Sega
will work on each other systems
 (stick movements and one button only).
They will also work on Amiga

Gary Tait

On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Mark Freid wrote:

> I'm not a Sega fan, but I beleive that the Sega controllers (sms,
> genesis) use the same input... anyone confirm that they will work on a
> Commie?=20

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Subject: Re: VIC-20
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On 11 Aug 1996, R. T. Cunningham wrote:

> I'll be guilty of being off topic too.  Jim is the man, the myth, one o=
f
> the earliest PET,  64 and 128 programmers in the history of Commodore.=20

I remeber him. I feel cose to him because he is a Canadian, an I used
to watch him when he was on a TVO computer program (TVO=3DPBS in Ontario,=
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Canada.)

Gary Tait

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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:26:19 -0400
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Is Vic Revealed,by Nick Hampshire, erroneus(sp) as well ?

Gary Tait

On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Scott Brockway wrote:
>   Keep in mind alot of the VIC-20 PRG is untrue, mostly to do with the
> capabilties of the VIC chip.

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From: Alan Jones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: file viewing
Date: Fri,  9 Aug 1996 07:37:00 GMT
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Someone asked about viewing large text files on a C64/128.  My
favorite method is to use ZED 128.  Of course I have a 128 with an REU.
ZED is also available for the C64 under ACE, even with the 80 column
display.  Of course you will still need an REU.  ACE's MORE should also
work without an REU, but only for forward reading.

Browser on a 128 allows you to view and scroll through a large text
file forward and backward.  I have not kept up with the latest versions
of Browser.  I was not satisfied with the version that I did try.  The
latest edition sounds good.

Omega Q II on a C64 also allows you to view and scroll through a large
text file forward and backward, but only with a 40 column screen.

I guess what the C64 community still needs is C64 version of Browser
(or something similar) with an 80 column display.

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Subject: Re: converting text
Date: Fri,  9 Aug 1996 06:39:00 GMT
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I've been reading this Text conversion discussion for several days.  I
am not very knowlegable to respond to this question.  However, this
last response bordered on missinformation.  So here is my $0.02 worth
or response.

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Date : 08-09-96      Time : 01:24
From: [e-mail] (George Frajkor)
Subject: Re: Converting to Word

In article <[e-mail]>,
William R. Ward <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I seem to recall reading about a RTF to various commodore file format
>converter.  I don't have the article handy, but search for RTF and you
>might find it.  RTF is Rich Text Format, which Microsoft Word can
>export.  With the converter, you can then convert that to a form your
>C=3D word processor can deal with.

   As far as I know, there is no standalone RTF converter available to
commodore users, and there is no commodore WP program that recognizes
RTF.  Either of the above would be solution.

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I think the test converter that has been hinted about is GNYLF.  It
runs on a C64 and coverts files to/from: Microsoft RTF, Writer's
Choice, Mini Office II, IBM ASCII, ISO 8859-1 ASCII, PETSCII, CBM
screen codes, KF Metatext, GoeWrite V2.1, and some others.  I think I
found GNYLF V1.3 on the ccnga.uwaterloo.ca FTP site, although the docs
say V1.2.  There may be later versions.  The author is Linus Walleij,
[e-mail]. He also says in the docs, "If you don't find
your favorite amoung them, then either go to hell or write me and
enclose some text examples."  I have not seen Linus posting on
comp.sys.cbm recently.  GNYLF may well be the solution to the original
question, and if not, Linus may be willing to write a solution.

I have used GNYLF only once.  It worked fine converting a GeoWrite 2.1
document to IBM ASCII and RTF.  I never viewed the RTF document so I
don't realy know how well it worked.  The ASCII was ok, but the
original text was still in german.  I e-mailed the ASCII text to
someone who offered to translate to english, but I never did get it
translated.

Translating formated text from one WP format to another is difficult,
especialy when printer specific commands and graphics are involved.  If
you have a lot of files to translate you might be better off to write
your own conversion utility that does exactly what you want it to do.
There are many text conversion aids avaialble.  I think Paperclip III
has an unformat feature to strip out special formatting characters.
The Write Stuff, which I don't use, is said to have the best file
transfer capabilities between the common CBM WP formats.

Jim Brain is developing a HTML viewer/printer for Commodore computers.
If this turns out well it could provide common ground for formatted
text file conversion.  That is, utilities could then be written to
translate formated text files from Paperclip, TWS, GeoWrite V2.1, etc.
to and from HTML text files.  Presumably such utilities exist for other
computing platforms.  There is no HTML viewer for CP/M, but there is a
simple utility for converting HTML files to easier to read ASCII text.

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From: [e-mail](R. T. Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Wanted joysticks
Date: 12 Aug 1996 01:59:33 GMT
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Just want to let everyone know that the "Gemstick" joysticks sold at KMar=
t
and WalMart work great for 64s and 128s.  They're not "flight simulator"
grade or fancy joysticks at all.  But if you're looking for new, cheap
joysticks, these are available...and I think the highest I ever seen them
sold for was $8.  I have a couple of them back in Phoenix with the BBS
computer system.=20
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SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20
A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,misc.forsale.computers.other.software
Subject: FS: Commodore 64 software and hardware
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 02:55:47 GMT
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 I am posting this message for a friend without his own Internet account.
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 ALL SOFTWARE PACKAGES ARE ORIGINALS. THEY CONTAIN THE COMPLETE DOCS, DIS=
KS,
 AND BOXES unless noted otherwise. All opened disks have been tested and =
I
 will guarantee they work.
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 Feel free to make reasonable offers on anything below. Few prices are fi=
rm
 as long as you are buying several other items at once.

 SOFTWARE FOR SALE:
   COMMODORE 64/128 5.25":
     Ace of Aces..........................$4
     Beyond Dark Castle, no box...........$4
     Blue Angels..........................$3
     Border Zone, no box..................$4
     Deceptor.............................$2
     Defender of the Crown................$4
     Die Hard.............................$3
     Force 7..............................$2
     GEOS Desk Pack I, no box.............$2
     Grave Yardage, no box................$4
     Kings of the Beach, no box...........$4
     Murder by the Dozen, no box..........$4
     Oil Barons (big and heavy package)...$2
     Paperclip 64, no box.................$3
     PHM Pegasus..........................$3
     Pipe Dream, no box...................$4
     Print Power (Atari/C64 disks)........$3
     Sky Runner...........................$2
     Tomahawk (Atari/C64 disk)............$4
     Top 20 Solid Gold (Cosmi), no box....$3
     Top Fuel Eliminator..................$3
     TV Sports Football...................$3
     X-15 Alpha Mission...................$3

 HARDWARE FOR SALE:
     Commodore 64/PET Datasette...........$7

 *** For people near zip code 93111 in California ***
     (because long-distance shipping on the following would cost too much=
)

       * At least 4 working 1541 disk drives
       * 1 working 1571 disk drive
       * 1 working Commodore MPS801 printer, broken ribbon
       * 1 working Commodore MPS802 printer, tractor unit, 2 ribbons
       * 1 working Magnavox color composite monitor
       * 1 working Commodore 64 computer with power supply

     If anyone cares to take all of the above at once, we'll work out
     something around $15 each or even less. I have cables for all of the
     above, if necessary, but no manuals (which I never needed anyway).
***
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 The buyer must also pay shipping, which is not included in the above pri=
ces.
 I'm in California. Obviously the shipping cost depends on many factors,
 whether UPS or US mail is used, if you want the boxes (when I have them)=
,
 etc. For most small purchases, the shipping cost is usually $4 or $5.

 The other important point is that I don't have time to deal with lots of
 small transactions, so I need to ask a minimum of $15 worth of items.

 I would prefer to get rid of as much at once as possible, so if you are
 interested in all the Commodore 64 software, for instance, I will certai=
nly
 give you a better deal to encourage that. Additionally, if you want to m=
ake
 an offer such as "I'll take whatever software you will sell for $2 each"=
,
 let me know and I'll see what I want to get rid of that bad. Please real=
ize
 that while I will sell some items for $2 each, I won't go below that no
 matter what. There are also a few items that I will still insist on $3 o=
r $4.

 I will only deal with the UNITED STATES and CANADA.

 Thank you,
  Randall
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From: [e-mail](R. T. Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: file viewing
Date: 12 Aug 1996 02:14:53 GMT
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On Aug 09, 1996 07:37:00 in article <Re: file viewing>, 'Alan Jones
<[e-mail]>' wrote:=20
=20
>Someone asked about viewing large text files on a C64/128.  My=20
>favorite method is to use ZED 128.  Of course I have a 128 with an REU.=20
>ZED is also available for the C64 under ACE, even with the 80 column=20
>display.  Of course you will still need an REU.  ACE's MORE should also=20
>work without an REU, but only for forward reading.=20
=20
ACE's ZED also works with DACC partitions on a RAMLink.  I had a 4mb DACC
partition and imported an ASCII file of about 2 megs from my PC and was
able to load it into ZED without any fuss or muss.  Can't wait until ZED
becomes more functional with the next release of ACE.=20
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From: [e-mail] (VideoFab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: FS: Rare SX-64, etc
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 02:42:55 GMT
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All excellent condition!!!!!

- Commodore 64 (like new in box)
- 1541 disk drive (like new in box)
- 1541 disk drive (no box)
- 1650 modem (300 baud rate)
- Dot matrix printer (Star SL-10L 100% Commodore capatible)
- SX-64 (Executive C64 w/5" built-in color monitor and disk drive- cpu
needs some work)
- Superbase64 w/original documentation
- approx 1,000 diskettes filled with C64 programs
- approx 200 hardcopy documentation for the above programs
- all c64 hardware connections included

A must for the C64 collector for only $150 (postage not included)

Email me if you're interested=20

LPena
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From: Guy Hilliard <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: FS:  C64 Games (best offer takes the lot)
Date: 12 Aug 1996 03:27:33 GMT
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These games are all complete, in working order and in their original boxe=
s.
The best offer received by August 17 takes the lot. Postage will be extra.
US currency only.

 * Advanced D&D Dungeon Masters Assistant Vol. I:  Encounters

 * Battles of Napoleon

 * Darkhorn

 * Lords of Conquest

 * Panzer Battles

 * Panzer Strike

 * Reach for the Stars

 * Risk

 * Storm Across Europe

 * Wargame Construction Set

 * Xenophobe

 * Plus a few other programs, blank disks, etc.


Please email offers to:  [e-mail]

Thanks
******

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Subject: .d64 & .t64 files??
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:24:01 -0500
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  what program(s) do i need to convert these files to run on the commodor=
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64?

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From: Gaelyne Moranec <[e-mail]>
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Is there anyone who can help this person??   I have no experience with
Pet's at all.


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  Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 20:28:41 -0400
  From: [e-mail]
  To: [e-mail]
  Subject: Service for couple of 4032 PET's

I clicked on "Gaelynn", I thought?  Anyway:  I need a couple of 4032 main
PCB's serviced.  I have been using first an old 4016-N (the only one whic=
h
still works!) to run a small CNC lathe I cobbled, and then a couple of 40=
32's
which I got "new" for $100 each (in factory cartons!) when DBM shut down.
 These died, finally.  Oh, one still "comes up", but it gets confused whe=
n
loading a 6502-code via "POKE" from BASIC (it seems to think bit-6 ("64")=
 is
hi, when finding ASC of letters).  The other one seems totally confused!
 Point is, my NEEDED machinery is "down" without a working PET (well, the=
 old
4016 kinda works, but with the older CBM BASIC and 1/2 the RAM, it jus' a=
in't
the same!), I am in a mess!  It will be SO much hassle to retrofit a "PC"=
 to
the machine (but I have an ISA board already designed to function as the =
old
PET's "PUP" did!), and I will have to "type-in" all the BASIC programs!
 (Disks are not swappable to PC, of course!).  PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHA=
T TO
DO?  Thanks!  Jan Rowland



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From: [e-mail] (Andreas Andersson)
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Subject: Re: SuperCPU
Date: 12 Aug 1996 06:38:51 +0200
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Alan Jones <[e-mail]> wrote (among other things):

>   I have read only discouraging things about user hacking on the
>   SuperCPU.  I asked if it was easy to patch the RAM shadow of the ROM
>   image and what type of ROM the SuperCPU used.  I was told that this w=
as
>   not possible and that I should keep a hands off policy toward hacking
>   the SuperCPU.  This same person told me that the ROM used is "virgin
>   jdos".  I've checked all my reference manuals and catalogs and I can'=
t
>   find an IC chip manufacturer or trade name of Virgin, nor jdos.  I'm
>   sure the responder was confused, and I discount his answer to the fir=
st
>   part of my question as well.  I certainly hope that the SuperCPU ROM(=
s)
>   is(are) socketed DIP packages and of a type that is commercialy
>   available and programmable by the Promenade C1.

I'm sure the person in question was talking about some sort of regular
version of JiffyDOS, CMD's OS patch...

As for the actual chip used, well, from a picture of the SuperCPU on
CMD's website it looks just like a normal 28-pin EPROM in a 32-pin socket.
(Which is making at least me a bit suspicious about the information below
the picture saying that this is 128K ROM. I may me wrong of course, but i=
t
looks more as if there's an _option_ for 128K ROM. I think the largest
28-pin EPROM's are 64K.)

>   An unresolved question is how fast the SuperCPU will run cartridge
>   based software such as the COMAL 2.0 programming language.  This
>   cartridge is 64-128K of EPROM bank switched in 16K banks.  I may well
>   be the only person to whom this question is important.  However, ther=
e
>   are many more C64/128 software cartridges out there.  CMD should have
>   provided some means of running these at full 20 Mhz speed.  This coul=
d
>   be instructions for building a new cartidge with faster EPROMS and
>   circuitry, or RAM shadowing the cartridge EPROM images in the SuperCP=
U.

If CMD publishes the specs on the rocket socket, there's no reason why
you shouldn't be able to build yourself an improved cartridge :)
Unless, of course, they've done something really brain-damaged like not
having the whole bus available on it. They seem to be pretty smart people
though, so this shouldn't be the case.

>   It is also apearant that the CPLD (Complex Programmable Logic Device)
>   is the magic "black box" that makes the SuperCPU work.  I have not se=
en
>   any info on this published yet.  Understanding the CPLD is certainly =
of
>   interest to user/programmers.

I have a hard time seeing them letting out this kind of info. It would ju=
st
be way too easy to copy their design...

>   The SuperCPU may well be too little too late (which was said of the 1=
28
>   at its introduction).  The only C64 upgrade that makes sense today is
>   to buy a used 128 for $40-50 (depending on extras like the manual,
>   cables, etc.).

It sure is. I have two.

>   I have two great hopes for the SuperCPU.  First is the Rocket Socket.
>   If CMD produces a series of powerful expansions for this port and
>   software to use them, it could become much more usefull.  For example=
 a
>   good FPU (floating point unit) and an enhanced graphics card.  The
>   graphics card could be a stunning SVGA unit or a unit based on the ol=
d
>   Amiga chip set (which would also work with many 128 monitors with
>   analog RGB inputs).

Why stop at that? I could sure use an Ethernet card, couldn't you?
And the Swiftlink really isn't that great at 1 MHz, is it?
An IDE interface is simply a must, I would say. :)

>   The second hope would be that the SuperCPU becomes so popular that ma=
ny
>   65C816 program development tools are released (as well as software) a=
nd
>   a user DIY hardware hack is developed for the C64/128.  This might be=
 a
>   65C816 running at just 8 Mhz with just a few K bytes of fast RAM (or
>   even just zero page) patched into the C64/128.  This would cost only =
a
>   fraction of buying a new SuperCPU, but more importantly it would be a
>   fun hardware hacking project.

The C128 has relocatable zero-page and stack you know...
Besides, SRAM's that can manage 8 MHz (about 100 ns I guess) aren't _that=
_
expensive.

>   Well, I've generated my share of "buzz".   Now it's your turn.

I've had my turn too. Anyone else?

                                         Andreas



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