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In article <4tj30o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <4tanq5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (=
Mike Neus)=20
writes:
>-> In article <4ssabc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>-> >
>-> >>users via comp.sys.cbm and BBSs.  The best way to market C64/128
>-> >>software today is as shareware.  And in particular registration sho=
uld
>-> >>include a professionaly printed users manual and user support.  Of
>-> >>course shareware releases need a complete text file based manual as
>-> >>well.  I'm surprised that any recent C64/128 software releases such=
 as
>-> >>CKIT 94, come with an expensive dongle or any user hostile form of =
copy
>-> >>protedtion.
>-> >>
>-> >I disagree. Shareware, even in the IBM world, has not been largely
>-> >successful. There are exceptions, of course, like DOOM. ;) It is eit=
her
>-> >releasing the program as a shareware, but not realistically expectin=
g any
>-> >revenues, or distributing it through mail order outlets such as SSI =
or CMD,
>-> >or market the thing themselves.
>->=20
>-> I fully agree with your statement Todd.  After releasing my own share=
ware=20
>-> software I am very disapointed at how many people have sent in money.=
  Doom=20
>-> (and its look alikes) incidentally are really "crippleware", as it on=
ly=20
>-> contains the first level.  To play the entire game you need to buy th=
e=20
>-> software.  That is the only reason it is successful as shareware.  An=
y future=20
>-> shareware I release will probably be of this form if I can't find a=20
>-> distributer.
>->=20
>
>DOOM is NOT "crippleware."  Crippleware is a shareware program that show=
s what
>the registered version does, but doesn't actually do it; or it may drast=
ically
>hinder what the register version actually does.  Typical examples of cri=
ppleware
>are when you have a 5-minute time limit, or a constrained size limit.  T=
he software
>is actually crippled and doesn't fully function.  Typically, users HATE =
these, but
>developers LIKE them because they usually get more registers.  The peopl=
e that really
>want the software outnumber those who get upset and quickly delete it.

No, Doom is crippleware.  It acts just as you describe.  You get a taste =
of what it can=20
do by allowing you to play the first level ONLY, which is quick enough ju=
st to give you=20
a taste of how the game feels.  To get the full version you have to pay f=
or it.  It is=20
no different from any other form of crippleware.

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   From: [e-mail]
   Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:39:10 GMT

   Anyone know if it's possible to connect a US Robotics 14400
   fax/modem to the C64? If so, do I need anything else in between to
   amke it work?

You could hook it to the user port, with an RS-232 adapter, and get
2400bps.  Or, you could do Daniel Dallmann's (sp?) 9600bps user port
hardware hack.  (sorry, I don't have his web address handy) Or, you
could buy a Swiftlink for about $40 from CMD and get 14.4Kbps, with up
to 38400 between computer and modem.  Pointers to all these things can
be found in the FAQ.

   Is there any NET software at any site that I can go fetch that will
   allow me to access web sites and send and receive mail?

Your best bet would be to get a Unix shell account from your provider.
TCP/IP on the C=3D is still in the development stages, so there are no
C=3D-native browsers or SMTP-compliant mail programs (yet).  With a
shell account, you'll be able to do all that (text based), and usually
faster than a PC user who runs all those things locally.

Aaron

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 Basic Communications, Ltd.              _Roark_ on IRC
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   From: [e-mail](R. T. Cunningham)
   Date: 6 Aug 1996 00:49:52 GMT

   On Aug 05, 1996 14:45:38 in article <Re: Programmers wanted!>,
   '[e-mail] (Bo)' wrote:=20

   Exactly what I meant by not really.  As great as the hardware is, it's
   limited by the software itself.  Will people rush and put an order in =
for
   GEOS because of the SuperCPU?  I seriously doubt it.=20

I bought my first 128D, and Geos128, in appr. 1988.  Since then, about
once a year, I dig Geos out, and give it a shot.  I've even purchased
some apps for it, like TopDesk and Gateway128.  However, it always
goes back on the shelf after a while.  The two main reasons: lack of
speed and lack of applications; mainly the lack of speed.  Geos is
pretty nice with an REU, but at some point you do have to use
floppies, and loading all those icons off floppy is just too slow.
(It always makes me think, "This is what Windows would be without
really fast processors.)

Therefore, when I get my SuperCPU128, I'm sure I'll dig out Geos and
give it another shot, and if it runs fast enough, I may buy some more
apps for it.  (I'm working right now on getting Gateway128 working,
now that I've upgraded my HD-DOS to a new enough version.)

So in some cases, while it may not sell a new copy of Geos, it may
sell some things for the third-party Geos programmers out there.

Aaron
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Bo ([e-mail]) wrote:

: If you are an icon junky like myself, then you'll appreciate any abilit=
y=20
: to use your CMD HD and RamLink from the regular GEOS deskTop no matter
: what other limitations come with it...

  I hate not being able to use native partitions with GEOS and would use=20
it if there was a way to do so.  But I like the way gateWay work anyway=20
so it not that bad.  I just like to have subdirectories for each applicat=
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Neus)
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Society of Commodore Users and PET Enthusiasts Meeting Announcement
(Dallas, Texas  USA)

The Society of Commodore Users and PET Enthusiasts (SCOPE) is a club devo=
ted
to all Commodore computers, including PET, C64/128, Amiga, as well as som=
e of
the rarer machines.  SCOPE meets at the Infomart as part of the "Super
Saturday" event.  If you are looking for Commodore support, news, convers=
ation,
or are just curious, check us out.  Our next meeting is Saturday, Aug
10, 3rd floor room 3008.  The schedule is as follows:

        9:00 am - 12:00pm  Vendor sale (Infomart Basement)
        12:00pm -  1:00pm  SCOPE club business (Room 3008)
        1:00 pm -  4:00pm  User group workshop (Room 3008)

This month is open agenda for both the Amiga and Classic Commodore groups.
Unfortunately the people that regularly bring Classic Commodore hardware =
will
not be availible this month.  This means only an Amiga 2000 will be avail=
ible,
although anyone is free to bring their own hardware.

The Dallas Infomart is located about two miles north of downtown Dallas a=
t the
intersection of 35E and Oak Lawn.  Take the Oak Lawn exit, Informat is th=
e big
white "palace" on the north bound side of 35E.  Parking is free.

If you have further questions, please E-mail me at [e-mail]=
.com
or call the SCOPE support BBS, The Mars Den, at [phone].

Mike Neus
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Aug  8 12:41:41 1996
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:59:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Irv Cobb <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: (fwd) Re: ?: CMD HD and Geos

[e-mail] (Bo) wrote:

>In article <4u9fk1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]=20
>(Jezebel Rebecca Delilah) writes: >=20
>> Okay, I have a question for the CMD HD users out there :)=20
>>=20
>> I am considering buying a CMD HD for my 128. I use Geos a lot for=20
>> stuff. My question is this: Does the new desktop (I forget it's name)=20
>> have a way for you to select current path ( change directories ) while=
=20
>> inside a application?
>
>  If you are talking about gateWay, the answer is no.

There's a DA on the Collette Utilities Disk that wil let you do this, but=
=20
it's pretty easy  to confuse the system. Actually, you can get quite alot=
=20
of stuff in a 1581 partition, so there's less need to change paths than=20
you might think.

>>=20
>> I assume this would be a new disk/drive selcetion window, or=20
>> under Geos in the button bar.
>
>This would require changes to the app itself, which would probably mean
>the app would only run under gateWay....

Actaully, maybe just to the DeskTop and kernel. But big changes=20
nonetheless, and I don't know that anyone's woking on such a thing.

>>=20
>> At any rate, if there is NO way to select path from inside a=20
>> application, how does one get in and out of directories in the HD? Or=20
>> must everything you want accessed by GEOS be in the GEOS directory?

>From within the gateWay desktop, correct.  If you are using the GEOS
>deskTop, CMD gives you a program to select partitions, since they
>only support 1581 emulation partitions on the CMD HD while using the
>regular GEOS desktop.  The speed and capacity are nice though.  If you
>are an icon junky like myself, then you'll appreciate any ability to=20
>use your CMD HD and RamLink from the regular GEOS deskTop no matter
>what other limitations come with it...

And if you don't require icons, I have found DualTop and GeoSHELL to be a=
=20
great combination. (And actually, they give me better support from my 2=20
meg BBGRAM than GateWay.)

>>=20
>> Thank in advance...
...
>    - Bo



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From: [e-mail] (Bo)
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> Work on Geos is already going on. Falk Rehwagen had a major revision
> ready at around 70 percent, featuring a "big" listbox (without using a
> REU), device drivers for all hardware parts (allowing better
> expandability) and more. He had to leave the project but gave it to
> another programmer (Wolfgang Grimm) so I expect un update to Geos 3.0
> released some day. Before that, there will be updates to TopDesk 128
> (first) and TopDesk 64 (after that) with many great enhancements.
>=20
> After all, don`t forget the international programmers in your count,
> there are a lot...
>=20
> Matthias

   Will this be available in the U.S.?  For that matter, is TopDesk
available in the U.S now? =20


> --=20
> Please reply to: [e-mail] - old email at cube.net will change
> soon
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Yup, thats my question... is there any software for the 64 that would=20
allow it to read low density pc disks via the 1581 drive? (I'm still=20
trying to figure out how to get 64 software from my Amiga to my 64...)

Zilla

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In <4u7bl2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Martijn van=
 Buul) writes:
>My PET doesn't have an internal tapedrive. As the matter affect, I use t=
he
>same tapedrive for both PET and C64. However, the PET seems to have prob=
lems
>reading the C64 tapes ( I can't even transfer data bytewise. The PET rea=
ds
>the file header, but that's about it.). I *do* have a scheme how to turn
>my 1541 into a 2031 (=3D=3D IEEE port), but that hack requires an EPROMm=
er, wich
>I haven't got...

Remember that the PET does not have a relocating loader. It expects
Basic programs to be at $0401 and it does not move them if they aren't.

Also the PET does not understand C64 files saved with SAVE "x",1,1.
It does not know that type of file headers and just moves on to the
next one.

>Martijn
-Olaf.
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From: Raymond Carlsen <[e-mail]>
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> I've recently joined the 8-bit revolution with my purchase of a c=3D64
> at a local thrift store($12).  The TV that i have access to has a
> coaxial "f" type connector on the back (i don't actually own a tv;
> although i'm tempted to buy one for a c=3D64 unless someone wants to
> sell me a C=3D color monitor!). Anyway, I went down to radio shack and
> braved the usual unpleasant experience with the always rude and
> condescending employees and bought a switchbox with a phono jack in
> and a "f" out as well as a video phono cable.  When I got home I
> plugged the cable into C=3D64 tv out jack and into the switchbox. Then
> I pushed the switch to "computer/game" and plugged the "f" coax into
> the TV. At this point I was getting close and my mind was attempting
> to salvage the remains of BASIC left in my memory. So, I plugged in
> the power supply and turned on the c=3D64 and ...........a blank green
> screen. What a let down!
>
> So, much questions are: is my c=3D64 dead? what could be wrong? can i f=
ix
> it or is it destined for parts?

You represent a great challange for a repair tech. I can give you some
general information, but unless you're willing to take it all the way
to a solution, it just might be a "parts" source. Many users opt not
to repair, since working computers and drives are so plentiful on
garage sales, flea markets, etc.
     Since you've got something on the TV screen, it appears that the
antenna (RF) hookup is OK. The most common failures of the C64 are the
power pack and the PLA chip. If the power pack had failed, I don't
believe you would have a "green" screen... just black. Is the little
red LED lit on the computer? That is an indicator of +5 volts from
the supply.  Did you get a disk drive with the 64? It would tell you
if the computer were trying to work by it's red LED coming on, then
off when the computer were powered up (active reset).
     With the power supply and chips inside the computer, substitution
with a know good one is the only practical way to test things. Without
some support (a second 64, a drive, etc.), I don't know how to tell
you to proceed. Sorry. If you can find a local user group or friendly
tech type, you might have a shot. Parts are still available from
several sources.

Ray Carlsen
CARLSEN ELECTRONICS... A leader in trailing-edge technology.


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From: [e-mail] (Todd Elliott)
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I've just got GEOProgrammer. It does not run in 128 mode. I thought that =
it
could run in both modes? Is there some updated files which will enable it
to run in 128 mode?

Thanks!
Todd
{.sig starts here!}
Todd Elliott
C128D Nirvana Enthusiast!
[e-mail]
University of Baltimore School of Law

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In article <4tqpua$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Mike Neus ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> In article <4tmkfa$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>> >
>> >Andrew R. McInnis ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> >> does anyone know of a ftp site where i can get a program to dissolv=
e=20
.lha
>> >> files???
>> >
>> >Assuming that you want to dissolve them on a Commodore 8-bit computer=
,=20
the
>> >only way is on a C128 in CP/M mode, using PMEXT.COM. It can be found=20
inside
>> >PMAUTOAE.COM, a self-extracting PMA archive, at ftp.cam.org, director=
y
>> >/users/ismael/cpm/archivers.
>
>> You havn't discovered CS-DOS yet, have you?  There is both an lha crea=
ter
>> and disolver as part of this package. Check out
>> ccnga.uwaterloo.ca/pub/cbm/cs-dos. You'll be glad you did!
>
>Yes, I've discovered CS-DOS many years ago and also its programs lha, lh=
x
>and lhd. However we're talking here about archives with the .lha extensi=
on
>which are not dissolved by CS-DOS' lhx because they use the lh5 compress=
ion
>method. CS-DOS' lhx and lha only handles the lh1 compression method.
>
>You haven't learned to check the information before posting here yet, ha=
ve
>you?

I don't think it says anywhere in here which version of lha it is.  Maybe=
 you=20
should learn to read posts!

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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Setting drives to device #12+ ??
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 18:41:35 GMT
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How do I set Commodore disk drives to device numbers higher than 11? =20
I seem to remember a software method, but I'd prefer to do it in the
hardware so I don't have to reconfigure everthing each time I boot the
system.


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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:09:27 -0600
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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone know if it's possible to connect a US Robotics 14400 fax/modem t=
o the
> C64? If so, do I need anything else in between to amke it work?
YES, I do it all the time. You need a SwiftLink, Hart, or Datapump
RS232 interface cartridge. These will permit connecting a modem at up to
38.4k or more depending on the cart. If you plan on using it asa fax as
well you should make sure that the modem is capable of running GeoFax as
this is the only currently available program. If you are a geos user then
there is a program written being written for the 128 that will be a
Graphic Web browser. and yes, most of these answers are in the CBM FAQ.

> Is there any NET software at any site that I can go fetch that will all=
ow me
> to access web sites and send and receive mail?

Using any program that can emulate a vt102 you can use a 64/128 and a Dos
Shell account to access the Internet, e-mail, and FTP site access.

Phil Porth (aka Phone Man)

From the land of the frozen North, Calgary Alberta Canada
Home of the Calgary Stampede
and Calgary Commodore Users Group


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Karlsson)
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 22:01:33 GMT
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In article <4u6pkl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Martijn van Buul) wrote:

> The only problem is to get those (basic) files into a PET.=20

PC -> 1541 via StarCommander, and then via a 4040 drive to the PET,
perhaps?

Does anyone know if it possible to adapt StarCommander for use with a
parallel IEEE interface (like a 4040 or 8050)?

\\//
Peter - [e-mail] - Fidonet 2:204/145.42
      - May not be distributed via the microsoft network

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From: "B. Taylor" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Is my C=3D64 dead?
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:17:32 -0400
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Hello:

I've recently joined the 8-bit revolution with my purchase of a c=3D64 at
a local thrift store($12).  The TV that i have access to has a coaxial=20
"f" type connector on the back (i don't actually own a tv; although i'm=20
tempted to buy one for a c=3D64 unless someone wants to sell me a C=3D co=
lor=20
monitor!). Anyway, I went down to radio shack and braved the usual=20
unpleasant experience with the always rude and condescending employees=20
and bought a switchbox with a phono jack in and a "f" out as well as a=20
video phono cable.  When I got home I plugged the cable into C=3D64 tv ou=
t=20
jack and into the switchbox. Then I pushed the switch to "computer/game"=20
and plugged the "f" coax into the TV. At this point I was getting close=20
and my mind was attempting to salvage the remains of BASIC left in my=20
memory. So, I plugged in the power supply and turned on the c=3D64 and=20
...........a blank green screen. What a let down!

So, much questions are: is my c=3D64 dead? what could be wrong? can i fix=
=20
it or is it destined for parts?

I also attempted to plug the c=3D64 straight into the TV with a phono->"f=
"=20
plug converter and I got the same thing.

Thanks for any help.


-brad =20
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From: Peter Yiakis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: FS: CBM 401 Mech Calculator
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 12:28:14 -0700
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For Sale:

Complete your commodore collection with a Commodore model 401
mechanical calculator.  It prints on tape, and has the C=3D logo and name
on the front.  It is in fair to good condition.  I have no idea what it
is worth, so best bid gets it.  I am in the San Francisco area if you
can pick it up, otherwise shipping is on the buyer.  Please E-mail me if
interested.

Peter Yiakis
[e-mail]