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What is difference between C64 and C64GS? Like Apple II and IIGS?

Hon
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From: [e-mail] (Adam Vardy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: VIC20 video output - help please
Date: 29 Jul 1996 21:44:31 GMT
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Kaare Hviid ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I just picked up TWO old VIC20:s at TWO different flea markets.  I only
: got an RF modulator with one of them, and it is obviously broken (signs
: of somebody opening modulator and cables up for examination).  I was
: thinking that I could the VIC20(s) up just like my old C128 - with
: direct video output from the video connector.  However, this socket is
: obviously of a different type from the C64 (C128) - the manual says
: pin 2 is GND, pin 4 VIDEO LOW, and pin 5 VIDEO HIGH.  Neither of these
: VIDEO pins seems to work like on the C64 - I just get a grayish stripe
: going up and down the monitor on both of the machines.  Since both of
: them behave the same way I presume they both are working but the video
: connector is acting up on me...the question:

: How do I connect a VIC20 (this is a PAL machine, if that matters) to
: a color monitor with standard VIDEO (FBAS I think) input.  I can also
: do RGB-Analog on my monitor (used it with my Amiga as well).

: Any help much appreciated - I've been looking a long time for a VIC20
: and when I all of a sudden find TWO of them, it kills me that I can't
: get any of them to work...


Get Radio Shack part no. 42-2394.  Then just use standard stereo cables=20
(mono plugs) to extend it, because the part is just an adaptor, not a=20
cable. =20

You can then plug that into a composite monitor.

- Adam

: Thanks!
: --
: K=E5re Hviid     SM7WEL       =C5kershus 12B, SE-245 37  Staffanstorp, =
Su=E8de
: [e-mail]         [phone] (home), [phone] (work=
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From: [e-mail] (jennifer mize)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Jennifer's C=3D Sale
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:10:43 -400
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Jennifer's Commodore Sale

The following items are for sale:
(unless otherwise indicated, all
items are in good shape and in
full working order)
_________________________________

Commodore 128    power supply, all C128 cables,
                 original box, C128 System Guide,                        =
    =20

                 $68.00

Commodore 128    power supply, all c128 cables,
                 original box, and C128 Guide Book,               =20

                 $65.00

Commodore 64     power supply, all C64 cables,
                 original box and C64 User's Manual.              =20

                 $35.00

Commodore 64     power supply, all C64 cables,
                 and C64 User's Manual.
                          =20
                 $33.00        =20

Commodore 64C    power supply, all C64C cables,=20
                 C64C system guide, original box,
                 and original GEOS software.
             =20
                 $50.00

Commodore 64C    power supply, all C64C cables,
                 and original GEOS software.

                 $44.00

1541C disk drive all cables and original box.
               =20
                 $31.00

1541C disk drive all cables.

                 $29.00

1541 Custom      Custom drive with 3 external=20
     Drive       switches. 1 to reset the drive,
                 1 to toggle between assignment
                 as device 8/9, and 1 to turn=20
                 write protect on and off

                 $29.00

1541 drive       all cables and user's manual.       =20
                =20
                 $25.00

Commodore        owner's manual, great shape,=20
1702 Monitor     good vcr monitor too.

                 $40.00

Okimate 10       with 1 color and 2 black unopened
Color Printer    ribbon replacements, all cables.

                 $12.00

Commodore C2N    all cables.
Tape Drive=20
                =20
                 $7.00

About 130        don't ask for a listing,=20
disks full       basically a grab bag.
of games=20

                 $30.00

About 100        don't ask for a listing,
disks full       basically a grab bag.
of games=20

                 $24.00

About 40 disks   don't ask for a listing,
full of games    basically a grab bag.


Kickman cart     Instruction manual/no box.

                 $3.50

Tooth Invaders   Instruction manual/no box.
cart       =20
                 $4.00

Avenger cart     Intruction manual/no box.
      =20
                 $4.00

Pac Man cart     Instruction manual/no box.

                 $2.00

Flight=20
Simulator II     Pilot's Operating Handbook=20
                 Flight Reference Card
                 Flight Physics and Aircraft
                 Control Book. Original software.

                 $6.00

HesWare          Original Software and manuals.
Synthesound 64  =20

Word Writer      All manuals/original box =20
Pro 6            and software.

                 $3.00

Print Shop Pro   Original docs and software.
Deluxe
                 $3.00

Commodore        Geography, Computer Science I,
Education Pack   Science I, Science II, Math II,
                 History, and Games II. All orig.
=20
                 $5.00

Epyx Summer      Just original disk.=20
Games
                 $2.00

2 Mastertronix   Shogun and Ninja- just the
Games            original disks.

                 $3.00

Dig Dug          Original game with instructions.

                 $2.00
  =20
The President    Original Software.
is Missing

                 $2.00

Jeopardy and     2 disks/Original Software.
Wheel of Fortune=20
                 $2.00

C64 Out of Print "COMMODORE 64 COMPUTER PROGRAMS
Book              FOR BEGINNERS" =20

                 $3.00

C64 Out of Print "EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR
Book              C64 AND HOW TO DO IT"

                 $3.00
_____________
TERMS OF SALE
_____________


1. Sales are first come, first served. Please include you full
   mailing address in reply for faster service.

2. Everything is sold as is.  Unless specified, all games and
   systems have been tested and are in working order.  I very
   rarely sell items that aren't working, but if I do, they are
   clearly labeled as such.

3. Buyer has ten (10) days to send payment, and pays all shipping
   costs.  Shipping cost depends on both the weight of the order
   and the distance that the order must travel, unless a set
   amount is already listed.

4. Payment must be made in U.S. funds, by either check or money
   order, drawn from a U.S. bank branch.  Orders from outside the
   U.S. are also accepted.




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From: [e-mail] (hermit)
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Subject: Re: Does this game exist?
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[e-mail] (Dave Hoadley) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Anders=
 Carlsson  SdU) writes:
>>Hello all Commodore 64-gamers out there.
>>
>>I guess most of you remember Archon and Archon II - Adept from
>>Electronic Arts back in the 80s. I certainly do, and I still
>>have copies of these for my old 64.
>>
>>Anyhow, I have a vague memory of an Archon III too, released
>>sometime late 1984 to early 1986.

>I got Archon I, II, and III on one D64 from 128.195.201.233.
>It is in fact D229 in the oldgames directory.  The name of the
>game is Exciter, but don't ask me how to play it!

>Dave.
Hey did anyone of you guys find SUPER PACMAN or PACMAN JR. ??  I wish
I hadn't given all 2000 diskettes I had for the C64.

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From: Bronco <[e-mail]>
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I have that cartridge and manual. Make me an offer.

Willard - Saint Louis

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From: [e-mail] (Todd Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: WAIT6502,x Followup
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:22:32
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I've recently asked Mr. Butterfield about the infamous WAIT6502,x command
used in early PETs. His response follows, in which I think gives a defini=
tive
answer to the WAIT6502,x question.

Of course, I'm still looking for any legal information involving CBM.
Todd

RESPONSE --------------------
> I hope you don't mind if I ask you a question about WAIT6502,X used in=20
early
> PETs? I was hoping a PET guru like you may be able to answer the true=20
story.
=20
> The story I've heard is that CBM contracted with Microsoft to build the=
 ML
> code for BASIC.

True.  They paid a flat fee for unlimited usage.  Microsoft thought that=20
was a great deal .. until, later, they made royalty deals.

> However, Microsoft fell substantially short, and CBM's own
> engineers reprogrammed and finished up the BASIC for the CBM PETs.

Not true of that time frame.  Commodore paid Microsoft an additional fee=20
to write a revision to the original Basic that they had bought.  Among=20
other things, spaces-in-keywords were changed, zero page shifted around,=20
and (unknown to Commodore) the WAIT 6502,x joke was inserted.

As it happened, I was the person to show this WAIT feature to Len Tramiel=
=20
of Commodore engineering.  He was furious at Microsoft:  "We're very=20
short of ROM memory, and they do THAT do us!"

All subsequent revisions of Basic were done by Commodore personnel.

>                                                           CBM
> marketed their BASIC as their own work, much to the chagrin of Microsof=
t.

As an afterthought, Microsoft would have liked to see their name come up=20
on the screen.  But it wasn't in the contract (and Apple, later,=20
introduced "Applesoft Basic", another Microsoft rename.

Microsoft subsequently become quite fussy about disclosure.  Commodore=20
was enjoined to never reveal a single byte of the Basic interpreter code=20
(and Commodore employees were so cautioned on many occasions).  But the=20
user groups sorted most of that out.

>                                                       A
> lawsuit ensued, and in court, Bill Gates typed in that command, where X
> equals the amount of times MICROSOFT! would show up onscreen. Needless =
to
> say, CBM lost the case and had paid royalties to Microsoft since.

Could have been a nice reason for putting in the code, but it didn't happ=
en.
=20
> Is this true? If so, can you give me an idea of where the lawsuit was i=
n?
> Canada? When was the lawsuit instituted? A few more specific answers ma=
y
> enable me to find the case on Westlaw.

Don't think any such case ever hit court.

> So far, lacking specific information,
> I have yet to find any legal information concerning that siutation I've
> just described.

   --Jim

{.sig starts here!}
Todd Elliott
C128D Nirvana Enthusiast!
[e-mail]
University of Baltimore School of Law

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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Kleinert)
Subject: Re: Amiga ROMS
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Ricardo \"Storm\" Marques Ferreira schrieb am 29-Jul-96  14:00:13 das
folgende:

>Could somebody post the amiga roms (1.3)?
>You could post 2.0 & 3.0 if you want.

Could somebody please post WinDoze '95?
You could post NT and 3.11 if you want.

(sorry, I didn't really want to compare WinShit to AmigaOS)

>Thanks!


Regards,

Stephan



--
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From: [e-mail] (Ben Holmes)
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I'm looking for the program that creates 'xxxxxx.msw' files.  This is for
SID music files, it combines .mus, .wds, .pic, .ani, files into one
self-dissolving file.  If you have it, or know what the name of this
program is, or know where I can get my hands on it, I'd greatly appreciat=
e
it.  Thanks!
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From: [e-mail] (Roger W Lueck)
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Subject: Re: Driven #15
Date: 29 Jul 1996 16:52:56 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
: On 07/26/96, Kungfushi quoted All: Driven #15.

: cL> If anybody needs a uuencoded email copy, please email me at
: cL> [e-mail]  and I will be glad to get one out to you.
: cL>
: cL> Bill

:     Can you post it to comp.binaries.cbm, coolhand?  I don't have an
: internet
: e-mail account right now. :(
:                                     -Kungfushi

I don't think that is possible.  As far as I know, comp.binaries is a
moderated group with no moderator.  So it is completely dysfunctional
and useless at the moment.  Any other ideas?

Bill

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From: [e-mail](R. T. Cunningham)
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Subject: Re: Amiga ROMS
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ROTFLMAO!!!=20
=20
On Jul 30, 1996 00:53:33 in article <Re: Amiga ROMS>, '[e-mail].=
de
(Stephan Kleinert)' wrote:=20
=20
>Ricardo \"Storm\" Marques Ferreira schrieb am 29-Jul-96  14:00:13 das=20
>folgende:=20
>=20
>>Could somebody post the amiga roms (1.3)?=20
>>You could post 2.0 & 3.0 if you want.=20
>=20
>Could somebody please post WinDoze '95?=20
>You could post NT and 3.11 if you want.=20
>=20
>(sorry, I didn't really want to compare WinShit to AmigaOS)=20
>=20
>>Thanks!=20
>=20
>=20
>Regards,=20
>=20
>Stephan=20
>--=20
>www:   http://www.inka.de/~gromit/=20
>irc:   madiel=20
>=20
--=20
=20
Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20
SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20
A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892
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From: [e-mail] (William R. Ward)
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In article <4tjiso$[e-mail]>, [e-mail].c=
om (Roger W Lueck) writes:
) [e-mail] wrote:
) : On 07/26/96, Kungfushi quoted All: Driven #15.

) : cL> If anybody needs a uuencoded email copy, please email me at
) : cL> [e-mail]  and I will be glad to get one out to you.
) : cL>
) : cL> Bill

) :     Can you post it to comp.binaries.cbm, coolhand?  I don't have an
) : internet
) : e-mail account right now. :(
) :                                     -Kungfushi

) I don't think that is possible.  As far as I know, comp.binaries is a
) moderated group with no moderator.  So it is completely dysfunctional
) and useless at the moment.  Any other ideas?

Comp.binaries.cbm is moderated, and it *does* have a moderator.  In
fact it has several moderators, who receive as e-mail every message
that is posted there.  I am the head moderator, so I can say with
certainty that it is neither dysfunctional nor useless.

Three files containing Jim Butterfield ML utilities just went out
today.  We have received very few approvable submissions; the few that
have been sent have turned out to be either restricted by copyright,
not Commodore software at all (we got a couple JPG's), or impossible
to decode, run, or both.

I am working on revising the FAQ files, and determining what formats
should be used in postings (SFX, D64, etc.).  Anyone with opinions on
this is requested to send me e-mail and let me know what you think.

--Bill.
--
William R Ward          Bay View Consulting   http://www.bayview.com/~her=
mit/
[e-mail]     1803 Mission St. #339        voicemail +1 408/479-=
4072
[e-mail]  Santa Cruz CA 95060 USA           pager +1 408/458-=
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From: [e-mail] (LINCARD 1000)
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Hiya all... problem printer time <<joy>>. OK situation is: Star printer,
NX 1000C <<64/128 plug in variety>> powers up, ie lights come on, but no
one home. The print head doesnt even move around like on normal printers.
Also when hooked up to either a 64 or 128, it locks up the serial bus. ie
none of the disk drives attached to that machine work until the printer i=
s
removed or turned off.

I get told that it will cost mega-bux to get repaired, but if its only a
simple-ish problem, then maybe I can do it myself?

Any ideas? <<however far fetched :-) >>

--=20
    ___                        E-Mail: [e-mail]
   /  / INC.A.R.D  1000
  /  /___________________      "I'm more of a man than you'll ever=20
 /_______________________\      be, and more of a woman than you'll
                                ever get!" :-)
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From: [e-mail] (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: FS: AUCTION of Commodore HW, VIC-20 cartridges, & books (UPDATE)
Date: 30 Jul 1996 00:58:06 GMT
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Keywords: auction, commodore, hardware, software, books

This is an update of my earlier auction announcement, including the
bids that have been received so far.

I have been going through all my Commodore stuff that I have collected
and have compiled this list of items for sale.  The format will be a
public auction.  Send all bids to me in electronic mail to
[e-mail].  I will try to set up a WWW interface to submit
bids and check on the current highest bid, but for now stick to
e-mail.  I will post progress reports approximately every week to
report the current bidding status.

                        RULES OF THE AUCTION

  - SUGGESTED BID IS *NOT* A MINIMUM BID; I will accept the highest
    bid over that amount, or if all bids are below it, I *may* choose
    to accept the highest bid.  If you think my prices are too high;
    bid anyway, and you might just get it after all.  However there is
    a MINIMUM PURCHASE OF $10, just to make it worth my time to
    package and mail.
  - Bidding runs UNTIL ALL ITEMS ARE SOLD, OR AUGUST 1ST, 1996,
    whichever is soonest.  I may elect to extend the bidding period,
    add or remove items available, and/or change suggested bids after
    that date.
  - YOU WILL PAY ALL SHIPPING COSTS.  Shipping cost depends on method
    of shipment, weight of what you buy, and your location.  If you
    live in or near the San Francisco or Monterey bay areas in
    California (I live in Santa Cruz), we may be able to meet in
    person to transfer the goods.  Send me email if you have any
    questions about shipping.
  - Unless otherwise indicated, all equipment has been tested and is
    in GOOD WORKING ORDER.  Exceptions to this are noted in
    parentheses.  The 1571 and 1541's have all been aligned by me, but
    understand that shipping could misalign them, so check them when
    you receive them.  If you don't know how, ask me.
  - Except for problems noted in parentheses below, all items have a
    THIRTY DAY WARRANTY.  If anything does not work to your
    satisfaction for ANY REASON within 30 days of your receipt of the
    item(s), send it back to me for a FULL REFUND.  *NOTE* Refunds
    will NOT be given on shipping costs in either direction!

############################## HARDWARE ################################

                              COMPUTERS

SuggBid Qty     Mfr     Model   Description
------- ---     ---     -----   -----------
$25.00  1       CBM     64      Commodore 64 w/ P/S (keyboard needs
                                cleaning)
$35.00  1       CBM     128     Commodore 128 w/ P/S (F3 & F5 missing)
$40.00  1       CBM     128     Commodore 128 w/ P/S
$15.00  1       CBM     Plus/4  Commodore Plus/4 Computer in box, with
                                manuals and P/S
 BID:$15.00Rich White (7/16/96 15:38 PDT) [OUT]
 BID:$15.00Brian Seeley (7/16/96 16:01 PDT)
 BID:$10.00Tim Grooms (7/17/96 15:07 PDT) [OUT]
 BID:$20.00Brian Seeley (7/24/96 16:52 PDT)
 BID:$25.00Dan Amborn (7/26/96 17:38 PDT)
 BID:$30.00Brian Seeley (7/26/96 19:54 PDT)
$20.00  1       CBM     8032    80 col, 32k CBM/PET computer (E key
                                missing)
 BID:$10.00Joseph Keane (7/16/96)

                          FLOPPY DISK DRIVES

SuggBid Qty     Mfr     Model   Description
------- ---     ---     -----   -----------
$30.00  4       CBM     1541    Single Drive Floppy Disk 5.25"
$40.00  1       CBM     1571    Double-sided 5.25" Floppy Disk Drive
$20.00  1       FSD     FSD-1   Mostly 1541-compatible disk drive
$10.00  1       CBM     8040    Dual PET floppy disk drive, 512k each
                                disk (one side broken)
 BID:$10.00Joseph Keane (7/16/96)
$10.00  1       CBM     8240    Dual PET floppy disk drive, 1MB each
                                disk (broken)
$5.00   1       CBM             IEEE-488 Cable, PET to drive
 BID:$5.00   Rich White (7/16/96 15:38 PDT)
$3.00   1       CBM             IEEE-488 Cable, drive to drive
 BID:$3.00   Rich White (7/16/96 15:38 PDT)
$2.00   1       HP              IEEE-488 Cable, drive to drive
 BID:$2.00   Rich White (7/16/96 15:38 PDT)

                               PRINTERS

SuggBid Qty     Mfr     Model   Description
------- ---     ---     -----   -----------
$20.00  1       Oki     10      Okimate 10 thermal color printer with
                                Black ribbon & Commodore "Plug 'N'
                                Print" cartridge, in box
$5.00   1       Oki     10      Okimate 10 thermal color printer, no
                                ribbon or "Plug 'N' Print" cartridge
$30.00  1      Seikosha SP180VC 9-pin Commodore-ready printer; good
                                cond., nice NLQ mode
$5.00   1       CBM     MPS803  7-pin Commodore printer

######################### VIC-20 CARTRIDGES ############################

                    Commodore VIC-1xxx cartridges

SuggBid Qty     Model           Name
------- ---     -----           ----
$7.50   1       VIC-1211A       Super Expander w/ 3K RAM
 BID:$2.00   Jonathan Taylor (7/26/96 15:52 PDT)
 BID:$6.50Fabrizio Farenga (7/29/96 11:53 PDT)
$5.00   1       VIC-1212        Programmer's Aid Cartridge
 BID:$4.00Fabrizio Farenga (7/29/96 11:53 PDT)
$2.50   1       VIC-1909        Road Race
$2.50   1       VIC-1910        Radar Ratrace
$2.50   1       VIC-1911        The Sky is Falling
$2.50   1       VIC-1914        Adventure Land (Scott Adams)
$2.50   1       VIC-1915        Pirate's Cove (Scott Adams)
$2.50   1       VIC-1918        Voodoo Castle (Scott Adams)
$2.50   1       VIC-1919        Sargon II Chess (w/ Manual)
$2.50   1       VIC-1920        Pin Ball
$2.50   1       VIC-1921        Super Smash
$2.50   1       VIC-1922        Cosmic Cruncher
$2.50   1       VIC-1923        Gorf
$2.50   2       VIC-1924        Omega Race
$2.50   1       VIC-1937        Sea Wolf
$2.50   1       VIC-1938        Tooth Invaders
$2.50   1       VIC-1941        Number Nabber / Shape Gobbler

NOTE:   I have the manual that covers all five Scott Adams games, but
        only three of the games.  The manual is sold separately below;
        but if one person buys all three Scott Adams games, the manual
        will be included free (taking precedence over all other bids).

                   Other Manufacturers' cartridges

SuggBid Qty     Maker           Name
------- ---     -----           ----
$2.50   1       Creative S/W    Apple Panic
 BID:$2.50   Russ Perry Jr (7/25/96 19:28 PDT)
$2.50   1       Creative S/W    Trashman
 BID:$2.50   Russ Perry Jr (7/25/96 19:28 PDT)
$2.50   1       HES             Aggressor
$2.50   1       HES             Gridrunner
$2.50   1       HES             Turtle Graphics
$2.50   1       Parker Bros.    Q*Bert
$2.50   1       SpectraVideo    Ape Escape
 BID:$2.50   Russ Perry Jr (7/25/96 19:28 PDT)
$2.50   1       UMI             Alien Blitz (broken case)
 BID:$2.50   Russ Perry Jr (7/25/96 19:28 PDT)

############################### BOOKS ##################################

SuggBid Publisher       Title
------- ---------       -----
$5.00   CBM             1571 User's Guide
$5.00   CBM             An Introduction to BASIC:~Part 2 (VIC-20
                        Programming)
$5.00   CBM             Personal Computing on the VIC-20
$1.00 * CBM             Scott Adams' Adventure Games
$1.00 ^ CBM             User's Guide to the VIC Version of Sargon II
$5.00   Compute!        Compute!'s First Book of the Commodore 64
 BID:$5.00   Jim Lawless (7/18/96 04:34 PDT)
$5.00   Compute!        Creating Arcade Games on the Commodore 64
                        (BASIC only)
$5.00   McGraw-Hill     Hands-On BASIC with a PET
$5.00   Osborne         Your Commodore 64

* =3D Free with purchase of all three Scott Adams cartridges above
^ =3D Free with purchase of Sargon II cartridge above
(Purchasing these two manuals separately will only be considered if
 nobody buys the cartridges, or if the person who buys them does not
 want the manuals)

########################################################################


Send me e-mail and let me know what you want!

--Bill.
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peter,
email me regarding price.
brian   ([e-mail])

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Edward Eisenman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: This may be a silly question but...

: Is there a C64/128 compatible hard drive? (1581?)
: If so, what kinds of specs does it have (ie capacity, speed, etc.)?
: And what is the going price for one?

Ed, hard drives have been around for the C-64/128 for quite some time. Th=
e
first ones were the Lt. Kernal by Xetec and were around before the compan=
y
that produced them folded.

Currently, hard drives are being produced by Creative Micro Design with
the smallest one starting at 40 meg and the largest at 2 gigabytes. The
nice thing about the CMD HDs is that they have the SCSI interface which
enables the C-64/128 user to daisy chain his or her HD to another
non-Commodore compatible HD, CD-ROM or tape drive.

The 1581 is a floppy disk drive that uses 3.5-inch disks and at first, it
seemed to feel like a hard drive because of the amount of data that could
be stored on it at that time.

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Bo ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hey there...

:    Does anyone know who currently holds the rights to all the old
: Compute!'s Gazette software... ?

Bo, General Media Services (which owned Omni and Penthouse magazines)
still retain the rights to the old Compute Gazette and its software. When
Ziff Davis purchased the regular Compute magazine and killed it in favor
of its own PC related magazines, the fate of the Gazette was left up in
the air as Ziff Davis was not interested in Commodore computers.

So, when the Gazette disk started to fold, the editor, Tom Netsel, spread
the word that they were giving away old and new Gazette software disks.
The last I heard was that Tom was working for AOL and the Compute Gazette
passed into oblivion.

I doubt that anything is left with General Media in regards to the Gazett=
e
as they even failed to refund the readers and when I inquired about this
nobody bother with responding by either telephone or registered mail.

--Harold Stevens, Genie Commodore Roundtable Conference Friday Night Host

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Hey folks,

I've got the following C-64 disks for sale.  **These are all ORIGINALS - =
NOT=20
COPIES** All are in their original packaging.  I'd like to get at least $=
4 per=20

title. (Shipping 'em is gonna cost me at least half that).  For folks tak=
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more than 2 or 3 titles, I'm sure a different arrangement can be made.  I=
'll=20
send *all* of them for $90 (Shipping included).

Here's the list:

Publisher       Program
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Academy Software
                Typing Tutor.Typing Invaders
Accolade        4th & Inches Team Construction
                Killed Until Dead
                 Test Drive
                Test Drive II
                Test Drive II: European Challenge
                Test Drive II: Muscle Cars
Activision      Apache Strike
                Predator
Avantage        Deceptor
                Spy vs Spy
Berkeley Softworks
                GEOS 1.2
                GEOS 2.0
                GEOS: DeskPack 1
                GEOS: GeoPublish
Broderbund      Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego
Capcom          1942
                Hat Trick
                Mini-Golf
                Pocket Rockets
CBS Software    Webster: The Word Game
CinemaWare      Defender Of The Crown
Commodore       Sea Wolf (Cart)
CRL             The Mandroid Files
Data-East       Kung Fu Master
                Robo-Cop
Electric Dreams Zoids
Electronic Arts Dan Dare
                Delta Patrol
                Instant Music
                Movie Maker (Animation Construction Set)
                Pinball Construction
                Project Firestart
                Racing Destruction Set
                Sanxion
                Seven Cities of Gold
                SkyFox
Epyx            Impossible Mission 2
                Print Shop/Print Master Graphics Scrapbook I: Sports
                Print Shop/Print Master Graphics Scrapbook II: Off The Wa=
ll
                Space Station Oblivion
                Street Sport Football
Epyx/US Gold    Techno-COp
Epyx/Val-U-Line Future Knight
Hayden          SAT:Algebra
                SAT:Geometry
                SAT:Quantitative Comparison
HesWare         The Factory
Infocom/Commodore
                StarCross
                Suspect
KeyPunch Software
                Combat Zone
Mastertronic    Last V8
Microdraft      Drop Zone
MicroPlay       Stunt Track Racer
MicroProse      AcroJet
                Gunship (+ Amiga Version)
Mindscape       Bop'N Wrestle
Parker Bros     Star Wars (Cart)
Polarware       Oo-Topos
SEGA            Spy Hunter
Springboard     The Newsroom
                The Newsroom: Clip Art Collection Vol 1
Swift           Paint
Taito           Arkanoid