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From: [e-mail] (Tomaz Kac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sinclair,comp.emulators.cbm,comp.sys.cbm
Subject: 8-Bit Heaven UPDATE
Message-ID: <1996Jul29.180227.1664@rcum>
Date: 29 Jul 96 18:02:27 +0200
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HI!

Well, I am really sorry for this CD and everything to be so late, but I w=
as=20
SOOO busy at the uni and with some other projects... anyway, CD is now=20
FINISHED ... it is DONE :) Now all I have to do is wait for the people at=
=20
the factory that is going to produce the CD to come from the vacation....=
=20
this should happen in a week or so, and then the CDs will come to my plac=
e,=20
I will then EMAIL everyone and POST to the news the PRICE and Paying and=20
Shipping stuff ... not before... This file is just to let you know it is=20
almost there :) Anyway, you can get the FINAL LISTS for all sections on t=
he=20
CD from following sites :

rcum.uni-mb.si
tferi4.uni-mb.si

in /incoming directory, the file is 8BITHEVN.ZIP ....


This is the Original .README file from the 8-Bit Heaven CD .... I include=
d it
for completeness... if you would like to order the CD ( when it is aviabl=
e )
or you need more info then please email to :

[e-mail]


                                 Welcome to

                            8-Bit Heaven CD-Rom
                           =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

  The CD you are looking at is probably the most complete collection of a=
ll the
memorable games of the 80's that we still want to remember and sometimes =
even
play, despite all the new super hires hicolor texture mapped light speed =
crap
we are seeing in the stores ;) (OK, some of the new ones are still good f=
un).
  I have spent over 4 years collecting games and other nostalgia things f=
or
ZX Spectrum and C64 myself, so these two collections are the most complet=
e on
the CD. But since I know many of you were fans of other 8 bit machines, I
included software for other platforms like Amstrad CPC, Acorn BBC, MSX,
ColecoVision, Apple II, Atari VCS, Atari XL/XE and ofcourse all the possi=
ble
emulators for all the possible platforms that are on the CD. Most emulato=
rs
will run on MSDOS machines, but there are some inthere for AMIGA, MAC, AC=
ORN
Archimedes, Acorn RISC, etc. machines. If you cant find what you are look=
ing
for then you should look on the internet. The best sites to start at are
ftp.funet.fi and ftp.switch.ch. Otherwise you can always ask your questio=
ns
about anything in NewsGroups like comp.sys.sinclair for Sinclair computer=
s,
comp.emulators.cbm for C64 emulation, comp.emulators.misc for other platf=
orms.

  Here is a small list of what is on the CD. Of course there is separate
readme.txt file for each platform in its own directory, which will explai=
n
the directory structure and specific instructions for the separate platfo=
rms.
  So here is the brief listing of what is on the CD:

 ZX SPECTRUM
-------------
  This is the most complete collection of them all. It contains over 2500=
 games
for all possible versions of ZX Spectrum, many of which are 128k games. T=
he
collection includes many Originals, Magazine Cover Tapes, everything you =
ever
wanted to see again.

 COMMODORE 64
--------------
  Contains over 1700 games in both TAPE and DISK format. Most of the clas=
sic
games are there... For the TAPE games to be playable on both most used
emulators (C64s and PC64) there are files in both .TAP and .P00 format.

 AMSTRAD CPC
-------------
  Over 600 games for this platform, in three formats ... Snapshots, Tape =
games
and Disk Images. I believe most of the classic and most wanted games are
present.

 COLECOVISION
--------------
  Around 140 games for this Console. I never actually saw one, but it did=
 have
most of the games i loved on other computers, so I put this one on the CD.

 MSX
-----
  Includes games for MSX and MSX2, in both Cartridge format and Disk form=
at.
Two emulators for each game format are included and around 600 games are =
here.

 BBC
-----
  YES, it does include the all original - all mighty ELITE v1.0 :) Beside=
s that
it contains many more memorable games for this platform.

 APPLE II
----------
  This is one of the biggest collections on the cd ... and it had to be
compressed in order to fit on the CD. Uncompressed it would probably take=
 up
another CD just for this platform. :) MANY games are zipped up and can be
played from your hard disk.

 ATARI VCS
-----------
  This is one of the first game platforms ever. Many games from the memor=
able
Atari 2600 console are on the CD... unfortunetly we are still waiting for
a good emulator, but the one on the CD will do until a better one comes o=
ur way.

 ATARI XL/XE
-------------
  A LOT of games for this giant (well, it used to be once) with two emula=
tors
to run them on.

  The MISC directory contains stuff that doesnt fit into any of the group=
s
mentioned above, it also contains VORTEX emulation package, which include=
s
most of the VORTEX games for Spectrum, C64, CPC and ZX81 and also the
information about them.

  If you want to find out more about each platform then please look in th=
e
seprate directorys for README.TXT files. Everything is explained in there=
,
including the instructions on how to use the emulators already installed =
on
the CD. NOTE: All the pre-installed software is ment to be run with SB Pr=
o
or SB 16 installed on your computer, some of it uses ET4000 card. If you =
dont
have these componets in your computer then you will be better of installi=
ng
the software from scratch on your hard disk. Everything that is already
installed is still archived in the UTILS or EMULATOR directory for each
platform.


  HAVE FUN !!!
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From: [e-mail] (Cris Berneburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Some serious thoughts on a new newsgroup....
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:34:02 GMT
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Scott Dutton <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'll second the idea of forming comp.sys.cbm.forsale.
>- Scott

Third. I'll be subscribing to both, though. It just means that when
I'm interested in buying something I'll look more closely at the 4sale
ng. When I'm not interested in buying or, heh heh, Windows-tm
shopping, I can ignore those posts more easily.

-------
Cris "PC-Geek" Berneburg, mailto:[e-mail] =20
The Basic Bombardier, Manager of Project 64, Geek Dragon (UDIC)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pcgeek/
PGP public key A1CE4355 available on keyservers

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From: [e-mail] (Darvell Hunt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: PET sightings
Date: 29 Jul 1996 16:19:03 GMT
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., SLC, Utah
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In article <[e-mail]>, Dav=
e Tickle <[e-mail]> writes:
> Whilst flipping channels a few minutes ago, I chanced to see a PET/CBM
> machine sitting in the background in a music video for a song called
> "Homosapien" by Peter Shelley(?) on Much Music's "80's weekend".  This
> would be only the third or fourth PET/CBM I've ever seen on television,
> the most memorable of which was the one they had as a prize on the
> American gameshow "The Price is Right".  I remember the "actual retail
> price" was $999!  How things change.  That same machine could probably =
be
> had for about a hundredth of that now.=20
>=20

The best PET sighting I remember makes me laugh every time I think about =
it.
It was on an episode of the TV show _Buck Rogers_, of which I was a faith=
ful
fan back in the 80's.

Buck Rogers was sick (or injured?) in bed, and Erin Gray's character was =
there
with him.  The had a PET 2001 computer on a desk or table next to the bed=
 that
they used for a surveilance monitor.  (It had a color TV screen installed=
 into
the monitor casing!).  They had Erin Gray tap out a few things on the key=
board
and the video changed.  It was great!  What high technology for the 25th
century!  And the keyboard was even the chicklet type and the PET even ha=
d the
built-in tape deck!  I laughed good and hard when I first saw that, which=
 was
when it originally aired. :-)

Darvell

--
Darvell D. Hunt    [e-mail]
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
     Salt Lake City, Utah
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From: [e-mail] (John Marler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Help -- Repair questions
Date: 29 Jul 1996 16:22:20 GMT
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Hi all.  Still looking for c64 repair advice.  A C64 that I
recently bought seems to work well, except for two problems: Joystick por=
t
2 doesn't register the UP/NORTH joystick motion, and it has some problems
displaying color.  Some screens are displayed just fine; in other
instances fields which should be displayed in color are displayed only in
white.  As an example: the game "Lords of Conquest" displays its map
entirely in white -- no colors to distinguish the players' territories --
when run on this machine.

Can anyone give me advice on whether this sounds like bad IC's
vs. bad internal connections? -- and if it sounds like
faulty chips -- which ones and any remarks on replacing them?

Thanks -- e.
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From: Joachim Str=F6mbergson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: PET sightings
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:20:25 +0200
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Dave Tickle wrote:
> I remember the "actual retail
> price" was $999!  How things change.  That same machine could probably =
be
> had for about a hundredth of that now.

If the morons that broke in to our hose a few years ago had been in bette=
r=20
shape, you could probably have bought it for even less, since it would ha=
ve=20
been *hot* :-)

Actually they only managed to get the sucker up from the basement. The=20
machine was the first sign of something wrong my father found when enteri=
ng=20
the house, he knew it didn't belong in the main entrance!

Cheers!
Joachim
--=20
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Joachim Str=F6mbergson Student, nice to small animals.
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977 54 Lule=E5           phone  : +46(0)920 - 22 16 42
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: CKIT - Dongle!
Date: 29 Jul 1996 19:22:00 GMT
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In article <4tanq5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (M=
ike Neus) writes:
-> In article <4ssabc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
-> >
-> >>users via comp.sys.cbm and BBSs.  The best way to market C64/128
-> >>software today is as shareware.  And in particular registration shou=
ld
-> >>include a professionaly printed users manual and user support.  Of
-> >>course shareware releases need a complete text file based manual as
-> >>well.  I'm surprised that any recent C64/128 software releases such =
as
-> >>CKIT 94, come with an expensive dongle or any user hostile form of c=
opy
-> >>protedtion.
-> >>
-> >I disagree. Shareware, even in the IBM world, has not been largely
-> >successful. There are exceptions, of course, like DOOM. ;) It is eith=
er
-> >releasing the program as a shareware, but not realistically expecting=
 any
-> >revenues, or distributing it through mail order outlets such as SSI o=
r CMD,
-> >or market the thing themselves.
->=20
-> I fully agree with your statement Todd.  After releasing my own sharew=
are=20
-> software I am very disapointed at how many people have sent in money. =
 Doom=20
-> (and its look alikes) incidentally are really "crippleware", as it onl=
y=20
-> contains the first level.  To play the entire game you need to buy the=
=20
-> software.  That is the only reason it is successful as shareware.  Any=
 future=20
-> shareware I release will probably be of this form if I can't find a=20
-> distributer.
->=20

DOOM is NOT "crippleware."  Crippleware is a shareware program that shows=
 what
the registered version does, but doesn't actually do it; or it may drasti=
cally
hinder what the register version actually does.  Typical examples of crip=
pleware
are when you have a 5-minute time limit, or a constrained size limit.  Th=
e software
is actually crippled and doesn't fully function.  Typically, users HATE t=
hese, but
developers LIKE them because they usually get more registers.  The people=
 that really
want the software outnumber those who get upset and quickly delete it.

DOOM is FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  You must register to get more levels.  This is=
 VERY
typical with shareware -- actually, it is the norm.  It is NOT cripplewar=
e.

JFYI.

Darvell

--
Darvell D. Hunt    [e-mail]
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
     Salt Lake City, Utah
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From: [e-mail] (David W. Case)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Looking for C128D keyboard
Date: 29 Jul 1996 11:51:02 -0500
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=20

I am looking for a source to buy a C128D keyboard.  Can someone look in a=
=20
current CMD Commodore World mag and see if there are any adds for one. =20
Thank you,
-David

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An emulator of a 1570/71/41 running in a PC that permits the C64 hooked u=
p
to the PC by serial/parallel port to load the disks directly from the
PC HD.

Storm.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Hilfe zum CBM 8296 D
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Sjoerd Schaafsma)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:50:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (Lingo  Martin Ender) wrote:

>recently I became a Commodore CBM 8296 D from my school. But I have some=
=20
>problems with it. Turning the power on the two Disk drive LEDs and the=20
>LED at the center begin to show red light and flashing. Trying to watch=20
>the directory of disks leads to no result. The machine doesn't react to=20
>this. No further input is possible and I have to restart the machine.

>Does anybody know about this problem. Are the two disk drives ok?=20
>I tried out the commands "directory" and "load "$",8". Are this commands=
=20
>wrong?

>Has anybody something like a manual of this Commodore product?

>My EMail-adress: [e-mail].

Martin Maybe this will help you.  I included a few extra bits and
pieces since it was all in one file anyway.

    Same: Directory-File Header format and BAM format and the
directory
 -sector format in the 4040 (directory blocks- track 18 sector 01 to
18)
 sure sounds familiar *grin* even the "sector distribution by track"
is
 the same.   Memory locations and the "user command Jump table" are
 different however.
       In case of disk drive errors the diagnostics chart for the 4040
 goes like this (according to the T Book):

  Num of
  Flashes |  Error Cause  |  Component, Location
     1    |  Zero Page    |  6532, C1, E1
     2    |  Rom          |  H1
     3    |  Rom          |  L1
     4    |  Rom          |  J1
     5    |  Zero Page    |  6530, K3; 6504, H3
     6    |  n/a          |  n/a
     7    |  Ram          |  2114, D4, D5
     8    |  Ram          |  2114, E4, E5
     9    |  Ram          |  2114, F4, F5
    10    |  ROM          |  6530, K3; 6504, H3

  The Jump Table  (you are planning to program your drives a few times
 *grin*>
     Standard  | Alternate  |       Function
     Syntax    | (1541 n/a) |

------------------------------------------------------------------
        U0     |            |   Reset User Jump Vector
        U1     |     UA     |   Block-Read replacement
        U2     |     UB     |   Block-Write replacement
        U3     |     UC     |   Jump to $1300
        U4     |     UD     |   Jump to $1303
        U5     |     UE     |   Jump to $1306
        U6     |     UF     |   Jump to $1309
        U7     |     UG     |   Jump to $130C
        U8     |     UH     |   Jump to $130F
        U9     |     UI     |   Jump to $10F0
        U:     |     UJ     |   Power-Up Vector (reset)

 TS> 4. Can I get the pin-outs for the cable anywhere, so I can build
 TS> one?
       hmmmm a diagram on page 98 gives this as a pinout:

                  IEEE Connectors Pins
               -------------------------
               |           o           |
               ||^^^^----____          |
               ||            ^^^^--____|
               ||                     ||
         DIO1  |[  1 ]           [ 13 ]|  DIO5
         DIO2  |[  2 ]           [ 14 ]|  DIO6
         DIO3  |[  3 ]           [ 15 ]|  DIO7
         DIO4  |[  4 ]           [ 16 ]|  DIO8
          EOI  |[  5 ]           [ 17 ]|  REN
          DAV  |[  6 ]           [ 18 ]|  DAV Ground
         NRFD  |[  7 ]           [ 19 ]|  NRFD Ground
         NDAC  |[  8 ]           [ 20 ]|  NDAC Ground
          IFC  |[  9 ]           [ 21 ]|  IFC Ground
          SRQ  |[ 10 ]           [ 22 ]|  SRQ Ground
          ATN  |[ 11 ]           [ 23 ]|  ATN Ground
    Shield/    |[ 12 ]           [ 24 ]|  Signal Ground
 Earth Ground  ||                     ||
               ||         _____----^^^^|
               ||____---^^             |
               |           o           |
               |-----------------------|


Sjoerd Schaafsma=20
- a sometime 8 bit holdout in Lethbridge, AB, Canada

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Subject: Re: Hilfe zum CBM 8296 D
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From: [e-mail] (Sjoerd Schaafsma)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:50:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (Lingo  Martin Ender) wrote:

>Hallo,

>recently I became a Commodore CBM 8296 D from my school. But I have some=
=20
>problems with it. Turning the power on the two Disk drive LEDs and the=20
>LED at the center begin to show red light and flashing. Trying to watch=20
>the directory of disks leads to no result. The machine doesn't react to=20
>this. No further input is possible and I have to restart the machine.

>Does anybody know about this problem. Are the two disk drives ok?=20
>I tried out the commands "directory" and "load "$",8". Are this commands=
=20
>wrong?

Martin I hope this listing helps.  I have more info if you want.
>My EMail-adress: [e-mail].
    Same: Directory-File Header format and BAM format and the
directory
 -sector format in the 4040 (directory blocks- track 18 sector 01 to
18) sure sounds familiar *grin* even the "sector distribution by
track" is the same.   Memory locations and the "user command Jump
table" are different however.
       In case of disk drive errors the diagnostics chart for the 4040
 goes like this (according to the T Book):

  Num of
  Flashes |  Error Cause  |  Component, Location
     1    |  Zero Page    |  6532, C1, E1
     2    |  Rom          |  H1
     3    |  Rom          |  L1
     4    |  Rom          |  J1
     5    |  Zero Page    |  6530, K3; 6504, H3
     6    |  n/a          |  n/a
     7    |  Ram          |  2114, D4, D5
     8    |  Ram          |  2114, E4, E5
     9    |  Ram          |  2114, F4, F5
    10    |  ROM          |  6530, K3; 6504, H3

=1A
Sjoerd Schaafsma=20
- a sometime 8 bit holdout in Lethbridge, AB, Canada

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From: MagerValp <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Amiga ROMS
Date: 29 Jul 1996 19:03:40 +0200
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>>>>> "Ricardo" =3D=3D Ricardo \"Storm\" Marques Ferreira <Ricardo> write=
s:

Ricardo> Could somebody post the amiga roms (1.3)? You could post 2.0
Ricardo> & 3.0 if you want.

oh, i get to? how nice of you. thanks,
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From: MagerValp <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Plus 4 / C16 games, interested in trading
Date: 29 Jul 1996 19:01:15 +0200
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>>>>> "Glen" =3D=3D Glen Lambert <[e-mail]> writes:

Glen> Calling all C16 / Plus 4 fans,

Glen> If you have the capabillity to send these old games over the
Glen> internet then please drop me a line at my EMail.

Glen> I am now able to transfer from C16 / Plus 4 disk to PC and vice
Glen> versa so I'm calling all of you who can do the same.

Glen> I'm trying to locate a few games so if you have a few games tha
Glen> can be sent then please Email me, I have plenty to send in
Glen> return.

please upload them to a publically accessible ftp server, f ex
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/cbm
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                  C++ - like C but with two trainers
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From: Jeff Jones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
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To: Adam Vardy <[e-mail]>

Adam Vardy wrote:

=20
> : I can't believe I did that! Right now it's $12.00 for 12 issues
>=20
> How long are the issues?

Up until now we've had to limit the length at 8 pages sinceit has been=20
free until, costing hundreds in postage alone to add to our disks every=20
month.  Now that it's on its own, I plan on expanding it to 12 pages=20
next month, and more as subscriptions grow. As stated before, Scott=20
Eggleston from Underground fame, is joining me as assistant editor.
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From: "Jack Followay, Jr." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Compute! software rights
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:21:56 -0500
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'[e-mail] (bbstrial-lynx account)' wrote:
=20
> >I haven't taken Compute since the Gazette fled the paper world.
> >
> >Is the disk version still being put out, or did that die off as well?

Next, R. T. Cunningham replied:
 =20
> I believe the disk version lingered for awhile, but yes, it's dead now =
too.

  Yes, they are dead now; however most of the good submissions were hande=
d
down to LoadStar, who is planning on publishing some of the nicer apps (l=
ast
I read, anyway).

JackLF
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Neus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: CKIT - Dongle!
Date: 26 Jul 1996 15:21:41 GMT
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In article <4ssabc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>>users via comp.sys.cbm and BBSs.  The best way to market C64/128
>>software today is as shareware.  And in particular registration should
>>include a professionaly printed users manual and user support.  Of
>>course shareware releases need a complete text file based manual as
>>well.  I'm surprised that any recent C64/128 software releases such as
>>CKIT 94, come with an expensive dongle or any user hostile form of copy
>>protedtion.
>>
>I disagree. Shareware, even in the IBM world, has not been largely
>successful. There are exceptions, of course, like DOOM. ;) It is either
>releasing the program as a shareware, but not realistically expecting an=
y
>revenues, or distributing it through mail order outlets such as SSI or C=
MD,
>or market the thing themselves.

I fully agree with your statement Todd.  After releasing my own shareware=
=20
software I am very disapointed at how many people have sent in money.  Do=
om=20
(and its look alikes) incidentally are really "crippleware", as it only=20
contains the first level.  To play the entire game you need to buy the=20
software.  That is the only reason it is successful as shareware.  Any fu=
ture=20
shareware I release will probably be of this form if I can't find a=20
distributer.

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Neus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
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ries:AR505:@@NCM)
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In article <4t8eh9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In light of this post, how do folks propose I change the distribution of=
 the
>magazine.  Evidently, this ARMM system will make publication of C=3DH an=
d
>others like DisC=3Dovery impossible via the newsgroup.=20
>
>As the FAQ maintainer (and the pseudo-contact person, though not really)=
,
>I suppose I can ask that this newsgroup be excluded from the ARMM
>check list by marking it so. =20
>
>However, I will not act until I hear from some of th regulars and
>new users of this group.
>
>To state the obvious:
>
>Commodore Hacking has traditionally been posted to the newsgroup as well
>as made available via email to present to the largest possible audience
>of Commodore owners.  Certain users either cannot receive large messages
>via email, while others simply do not have reliable email access.
>Most do not have either FTP or WWW access.  In the beginning, there was =
no
>binaries newsgroup to post to, and I am somewhat unconvinced there is
>one currently.
>
>This magazine has been presented in comp.sys.cbm since 1991, when Craig
>Taylor posted the first issue.
>
>For the moment, those who would like to read the latest issue can access
>it from http://www.msen.com~brain/pub/iss13.txt
>
>As well, users can access the file from the Commodore Hacking MAILSERV
>server.
>
>Send email to: [e-mail]
>Subject: MAILSERV
>Body of MSG:
>send iss13.txt
>ls
>help
>quit
>
>If your provider limits email to a certain size, there is a MAXLINEs=20
options, read the help for more info.
>
>Jim
>
Jim,

I think the file deletion was for somthing other than C=3D Hacking.  It s=
howed=20
up on my system today as message number 24675.  Based on the large number=
 of=20
non-computer groups that had files deleted, it leads me to think that=20
somebody might have been spamming.

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Neus)
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Subject: Re: whats in a 128d???
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In article <4t9b9f$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says.=
..
>
>i was recently playing with some new software for my commie when i found=
 a
>utility prog.
>i put it in and it said the internal drive was a 1571!!!
>i always thought that there was a 1541 in commodores???
>is this program right??
>did they make internal 1571 for a commodore 128d?
>i rescued this from being thrown out from a rummage thing i was helping =
out
>with so i dont know who had it last..

The internal drive on all C128D's are of the 1571 variety.  You can even=20
replace the internal 1571 mechanism with one from an external 1571 if you=
 so=20
desire.

>i dont want to open it up to find out because it has original warranty s=
eals
>on the screws!!!

I don't think you have to worry about voiding your warrenty.  It was only=
 90=20
days to begin with.  :)

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From: [e-mail] (Roger W Lueck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: hardware
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I have a friend who is looking for a power supply for a 1581 and a super
grafix interface.  If you can help, please email him directly at
[e-mail]   He will really appreciate any help.

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From: [e-mail](R. T. Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Request for Programming Assistance
Date: 29 Jul 1996 18:49:49 GMT
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If you could take the time to type and run this small program and
post/e-mail me  the=20
information printed on the screen, and what drive type it corresponds to,=
 I
would be most appreciative. =20
If you can use the "ui" command to read the drive information, and can
include that info as well,  that would be great! =20
 =20
10 dv=3D8:rem substitute your device number for the 8. =20
20 b$=3D"":c$=3D"":open15,dv,15 =20
30 lo=3D255:hi=3D255:gosub100:a$=3D"1 -"+b$ =20
40 ifa<>198then80 =20
50 lo=3D234:hi=3D16:gosub100:a$=3Da$+": 2 -"+b$ =20
60 ifa<>1then80 =20
70 lo=3D172:hi=3D16:gosub100:a$=3Da$+": 3 -"+b$ =20
80 printa$:close15:end =20
100 print#15,"m-r"+chr$(lo)+chr$(hi) =20
110 get#15,b$:a=3Dasc(b$) =20
120 b$=3Dstr$(a):return =20
 =20
This project is ongoing.  If I get enough responses, I'll post the result=
s.

 If I need further info, I'll send you E-Mail. =20
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Richard T. Cunningham (a.k.a. Wanderer)=20
SysOp of the Desert Oasis BBS in Phoenix, AZ=20
A Commodore 128 BBS, 602-849-2892
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Jack Followay, Jr. ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Michael Miller wrote:
: =20
: > That's basically all I have right now...feel free to comment on this,=
 send
: > me messages, design better systems, etc.

:   Many thanks for posting the info; I will certainly let you know if I
: have any success.  =3D)

Michael, you wouldn't mind reposting your post, would you?  I missed it.

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Quantum Leaper ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] wrote:
: >=20
: > Am I the only one who still plays this game?
: No but I haven't played the game in about a year.  It one of my
: favorite games behind MULE.   Have you have saved Mars on the=20
: hardest setting?

Where can one still buy this game??

Tom

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From: [e-mail] (lee renda)
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Subject: WANTED: COMMODORE 128 D Computer
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I am interested in buying a GOOD Working
COMMODORE 128 D Computer. I only need the=20
computer by it self. I already have everything
else .=20
,
Please reply by e-mail
[e-mail] Lee Renda
,
P.S I would even be willing to purchase the computer
without the keyboard or floppy drive, as long as the
Computer is in GOOD WORKING ORDER.
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BOWES1 ([e-mail]) wrote:

: > If anyone feels like it, email me any/all of your  AUDIO PROGRAMS  fo=
r the
: > c64/128.  Meaning....sids, digis, digimakers, music makers, everythin=
g and

: I don't have it online here, but if you go to the FTP site
: ccnga.uwaterloo.ca and look around there you will find a number of 64 a=
nd
: 128 digi programs, including Digiplayer 3.1 for the 64 (reu optional), =
and
: my own, Sound Studio 3.8 for the 128 (reu needed)=20


Cool..Thanks!
-Tom




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