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On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Adam Vardy wrote:
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> The Commodor mailing list.
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So is there a mailing list for c64/128 and how can one subscribe to it? =20
I didn't quite get what you meant by "The Commodor mailing list".=20

> BTW, I had wanted to reply to your other post about the TPUG gethering.=
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Sure no Problem.

> What are you aware about the status of TPUG?  There was some discussion=
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> couple months ago about it with various people saying they had sent TPU=
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> money for membership, but never gotten anything out of it.  Did you rea=
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> that?

TPUG as far as I know is still alive.  I did read the messages about=20
others concerned with TPUG that the fact they didn't receive anything and=
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I have to agree..it's been awhile since they came out with a Newsletter=20
or even a disk of the month. =20
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> So TPUG is quite active then?  Do you have a membership with them? >=20

They still hold monthly meetings if that's want you mean yes.  I still=20
have a membership ( I think ) with them, but it doesn't really bother me=20
at all..

> - Adam >=20

 Talk to you later, Gus!

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Gardus ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hello out there!
> Is there anyone out there that can help me connect
> a new sidchip to my c64, if I remember right it=B4s called=20
> sid 8580?

It should be a 6581, at least for the 'old' C64. The new ones have a 8581
AFAIK. The difference between then is, that the new c64 does'nt play
digitized sound via $d418. (or at least not very loud).

BTW: Anyone interested in a routin for playing 2-Bit digis on a new c64 ?

Jens

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Subject: Re: Trilogic Expert Loader
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Jason ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : There is such a thing in the ActionReplay as well! I haven't compared=
 them of
> : course, but just to hint you of an alternative!
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> Of the two the Trilogic was faster but the AR was more stable.

You can speed up the AR's burst loader quite a bit without loosing
stability.

Jens
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+ Still left to add.  Maybe next time....
  rewrite  of section 13.8.
  a section devoted to downloading software (maybe)
  changes to section 12.3 to detail hooking up monitors.
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  Most notable changes include removing many long lists, and splitting
  the FAQ into 9 < 32kB pieces.
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  I am gathering a list of Commodore reference books together.  If you
  have a book, please send me the ISBN, Author, TItle, short description,
  number of pages, whether it has illustrations, and whether it has
  any code samples.  Thanks.

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  Table of Contents
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   1.  Introduction
   1.1.  What is a FAQ
   1.2.  What topics does this FAQ cover?
   1.3.  Who decides what goes in the FAQ?
   1.4.  How do I retrieve updates to the FAQ?
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   2.  Overview
   2.1.  Do people still use Commodore 8-bit machines?
   2.2.  How many Commodore machines are there?
   2.3.  What do people do with Commodore 8-bit machines?
   2.4.  What Commodore 8-bit machines are most widely used?
   2.5.  What is the economic status of Commodore?
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   3.  The BASICs
   3.1.  How do I format a Commodore disk?
   3.2.  How do I transform a BASIC program to a text file?
   3.3.  How do I transform a text file into a BASIC program?
   3.4.  How can I change my drive device number through software?
   3.5.  Can I get my 1581 drive to change its device number on startup?
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   4.  Publications
   4.1.  What paper publications are available?
   4.2.  What paper publications have disappeared?
   4.3.  What is a Disk Magazine?  Where do I find them?
   4.4.  What is an Online Magazine?  Where do I find them?
   4.5.  Are there other publications I should be aware of?
   4.6.  How do I know which magazines to subscribe to?
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   5.  Connecting Up
   5.1.  How do I connect my computer to the outside world?
   5.2.  What services can I use to get online?
   5.3.  What hardware do I need?
   5.4.  What kinds of terminal programs exist?
   5.4.1.  What kinds of terminal programs exist for the 64?
   5.4.2.  What kinds of terminal programs exist for the 128?
   5.5.  Can I use my Commodore computer on Amateur Radio?
   5.6.  Is there TCP/IP software available for Commodore computers?
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   6.  The Online Information Reservoir
   6.1.  How do I download?  What is a transfer protocol?
   6.2.  What is the difference between PETSCII and ASCII?
   6.3.  Where can I find Commodore programs?
   6.4.  What is a file extension, and what do they stand for?
   6.5.  What is electronic mail?
   6.5.1.  What are mailing lists and how do I join one?
   6.5.2.  What is a Mail Server?  How do I use one?
   6.5.3.  How do I contact people on Compuserve, Genie, etc.?
   6.6.  What is USENET or NetNews?  What is a USENET newsgroup?
   6.6.1.  What news groups cater to Commodore 8-bit machines?=20
   6.6.2.  What types of discussions belong in comp.sys.cbm?
   6.6.3.  Which issues does comp.sys.cbm discuss regularly?
   6.6.4.  How do I post in comp.sys.cbm?
   6.6.5.  How can I access comp.sys.cbm through email?
+  6.6.6.  How can I read comp.sys.cbm through WWW?
   6.7.  What is a FidoNET echo?
   6.7.1.  What echoes cater to Commodore 8-bit machines?=20
   6.7.2.  How do I post in an echo?
   6.8.  What is the World Wide Web?
   6.8.1.  What WWW sites have Commodore information?
   6.8.2.  What Sites have Telnet WWW Browsers?
   6.9.  What is File Transfer Protocol (FTP)?
   6.9.1.  What FTP sites have Commodore Information?
   6.9.2.  What is an FTP Mail Server?  How do I use one?
   6.9.3.  How do I send files to an FTP site?
   6.10. What is Internet Relay Chat (IRC)?
   6.11. What else is available online?
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   7.  Exchanging Data
   7.1.  How do I exchange data among Commodore 8-bit machines?
   7.2.  How do I exchange data between an IBM(tm) and my Commodore?
   7.3.  How do I exchange data between an Amiga and my Commodore?
   7.4.  How do I exchange data between a Macintosh(tm) and my Commodore?
   7.5.  How do I exchange data between an Atari ST(tm) and my Commodore?
   7.6.  How do I exchange data between a UNIX(tm) machine and my Commodo=
re?
   7.7.  Are there other ways to exchange data between computers?

   8.  Operating Systems
   8.1.  What Operating Systems are available?
   8.2.  What is GEOS?
   8.3.  What is UNIX?
   8.4.  What is CP/M

   9.  Demonstrations
   9.1.  Just what is a demonstration, or demo?
   9.2.  What does NTSC and PAL mean?
   9.3.  Where do I get demos?
   9.4.  What is a demo competition?
   9.5   What does FLI, DYCP, etc. mean?

  10.  Emulators
  10.1.  What is an emulator?
  10.2.  What platforms do 64 emulators exist on?
  10.3.  What platforms do 128 emulators exist on?
  10.4.  Are any other Commodore computers emulated?

  11.  Troubleshooting
  11.1.  What do I do for my ill disk drive?
  11.2.  What do I do for my ill computer?
  11.2.1.  What do I do for my ill Commodore 64?
  11.2.2.  What do I do for my ill Commodore 128?
  11.3.  What do I do for my ill keyboard?
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  12.  Modifications and Cabling
  12.1.  How can you alter which side a 1571 reads from?
  12.2.  How do I open a C128 power supply?
  12.3.  How do I make a cable to hook my CBM 1902A to my 64 or 128?
  12.4.  How do I build a simple RS-232 interface cable?
  12.5.  How do I build a 2400/9600 bps RS-232 interface cable?
  12.6.  How can I determine how much VDC video memory is in my C128?
  12.7.  How do I build a GEOCable interface?
+ 12.8.  How do I connect my Commodore printer to an IBM PC?
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  13.  Enhancements
  13.1.  How do I increase my disk drive's transfer speed?
  13.1.1.  What is a Fastloader?
  13.1.2.  What is a ROM replacement?
  13.1.3.  What are the disadvantages to using a drive enhancement?
  13.1.4.  What other things can I do to speed up the drive?
  13.2.  How do I expand my disk drive's capacity?
  13.2.1.  What is a Hard Drive?  Who sells them?
  13.2.2.  What is 64NET?
+ 13.2.3.  What is SERVER64?
  13.3.  How do I expand my computer's RAM capacity?
  13.3.1.  What is a Ram Expansion Unit?
  13.3.2.  What is a geoRAM Unit?
  13.3.3.  What is battery backed GeoRAM (BBGRam)?
  13.3.4.  What is a RAMLink?
  13.3.5.  What is a RAMDrive?
  13.3.6.  How do I expand my C128 Video RAM?
  13.3.7.  How do I expand my C64 internally?
  13.3.8.  How do I expand my C128 internally?
  13.4.  How do I increase my computer's speed?
  13.4.1.  How do I increase my Commodore 64's speed?
  13.4.2.  How do I increase my Commodore 128's speed?
  13.4.3.  Can I speed up other Commodore computers?
  13.5.  How do I increase my computer screen's resolution?
  13.5.1.  How do I increase my Commodore 64's screen resolution?
  13.5.2.  How do I increase my Commodore 128's screen resolution?
  13.5.3.  How do I increase other CBM computers' resolutions?
  13.6.  How do I increase my computer's serial transfer speed?
  13.7.  How do I increase my computer's sound quality?
  13.8.  What other ways can I expand my Commodore computer?
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  14.  Programming
  14.1.  What Programming Languages are available?
  14.2.  What is a Cross Assembler?  How do I use one?
  14.3   What is an "undocumented opcode"?
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  15.  User Groups

  16.  Sales and Service
  16.1.  Where do I purchase Commodore Equipment and Software?
  16.2.  Where do I get equipment serviced?
  16.3.  How do I know who to buy from or request service from?
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  17. Miscellaneous
  17.1.  How fast does a Commodore 64 run?
  17.2.  How can a turn my NTSC-M 64 into a PAL-B 64 or vice versa?
  17.3.  What does this IC number mean?
+ 17.4.  What are the differences between C64 ROM Revisions?
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  18. Credits  =20
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   1. Introduction

  Welcome to the comp.sys.cbm "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQ) file.
  Many news groups maintain a FAQ file which is posted monthly, and
  is a repository for general interest and common information that many
  readers of the news group, or new readers of the news group, might be
  interested in.
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   1.1.  What is a FAQ
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  FAQ is an acronym that stands for "Frequently Asked Questions".  Shortl=
y
  after the introduction of USENET, many people noticed that certain
  questions were repeatedly asked in newsgroups.  To minimize the posting=
 of
  answers to already answered questions, USENET developed the idea of FAQ
  files.  After a question has been asked a number of times in the USENET
  newsgroup, it is added to the list of answered questions in the FAQ.=20
  Then, readers are encouraged to read the FAQ to cut down on posts of
  repeated questions. =20
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  A FAQ file is not solely for newcomers.  Experienced users are encourag=
ed
  to glance over the FAQ every so often to check for errors and add items.
  Also, it seems that everyone gets a question answered by reading the FA=
Q,
  new user or not.
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   1.2.  What topics does this FAQ cover?
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  This FAQ answers questions on just about any topic concerning Commodore
  computers.  Obviously, given the nature of the FAQ file, it is impossib=
le
  to answer every question here, and some topics are too broad for discus=
sion
  in the FAQ.  However, when the FAQ cannot adequately answer a question,=
 it
  does provide pointers to relevant people or materials.
 =20
  Even though a large number of people use their Commodore computer to
  program, the topic is much too broad for adequate coverage in the FAQ. =
 For
  those interested in programming, however, please see Section 14,=20
  "Programming".

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   1.3.  Who decides what goes in the FAQ?
  =20
  Typically, a FAQ file is editted by a single person or small group of
  people.  These editors decide what should go into the FAQ.  Obviously,
  for the FAQ to fulfill its intended purpose, any question that has been
  asked repeatedly should be included, as should updates to any questions
  already in the FAQ.  The FAQ maintainer should try to provide as=20
  up-to-date information as possible in the FAQ.  Above that, the FAQ
  maintainer can include any other information he or she deems or interes=
t
  or value to the readers.
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  For this FAQ, the FAQ maintainer is Jim Brain, [e-mail],=20
  [e-mail], or [e-mail].
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  If you have information that you feel should be included, please mail
  it to Jim.  Please be aware that it does take time to include new
  information.
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   1.4.  How do I retrieve updates to the FAQ?

  The FAQ is posted twice monthly, on the 5th and 20th, to the USENET
  newsgroup comp.sys.cbm.  It is automatically archived on the FTP
  site rtfm.mit.edu and automatically archived on Jim Brain's mailserver.
  Most Bulletin Board Systems and User Groups have a recent copy of the
  FAQ, and numerous magazines and other publications have included parts
  or all of the FAQ on disk or in print in recent months.  This FAQ is
  called the "COMP.SYS.CBM General Frequently Asked Questions List".
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  The latest version of this file may be obtained from the following plac=
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    ftp://ccnga.uwaterloo.ca/pub/cbm/comp.sys.cbm/cbm-main-faq.3.1
    ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/cbm/faq/cbm-main-faq.3.1.gz
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.sys.cbm/main-faq/part*
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/commodore/main-faq/part*
    ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.answers/commodore/main-faq/part*
    ftp://bbs.cc.uniud.it/pub/c64/comp.sys.cbm/faq.zip
    ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/spectre/TEXT-ARCHIVE/comp.sys.cbm.faq.3=
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