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Looking to buy a flyback transformer for the Commodore 1084 monitor.
Please respond via email.

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From: [e-mail] (George Szaszvari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: RS 232
Date: 3 Jul 1996 02:25:40 GMT
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In article <4rc68a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Looking for a RS 232 interface for commodore 64 or plans to build one.

There's a book *Build Your Own Universal Computer Interface* published
by McGraw Hill that has a lot of stuff about doing this for the C=3D64
(and other micros.) I actually have this book somewhere, but can't=20
currently find it under the piles of stuff littering my bedroom floor *:O=
)=20
but ISBN, author, etc, are listed in the Commodore book list on the=20
Finnish Commodore Web site - that address will be in the comp.sys.cbm FAQ=
=20
(might even be the same guy who has just produced the Programmer's Ref=20
Guide etext...see the current postings...)
Someone else posted here a while ago that a bloke in Sweden has produced
a one-chip RS232 solution for the C=3D64. I'd like to know where to get
that myself...could someone please tell us the contact e-mail address=20
for obtaining it?

George

--
 George Szaszvari, DCPS Chess Club, 42 Alleyn Park, London SE21 7AA, UK
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From: [e-mail] (ChrisC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1581 HD or DD
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 03:04:25 GMT
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In article <4ra5qq$[e-mail]>, "Bruce R. McFarling" <e=
[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Mike Neus) wrote:
>
>> I would say your disk collection speaks for itself.  If you are=20
>> successfully using 100 HD disks what better determination of
>> reliability can you have?  However, I am curious...why are you
>> using HD disks?  I doubt they are any better or posses any special
>> characteristics that make them better suited to DD data than DD
>> disks.  Save your pennies.
>
>        If you have to buy DD disks from a high-markup computer
>store, and can get HD disks from a low-markup discount store,
>saving pennies may be *exactly* the reason to use HD disks for
>a 100 disk collection!
>
>Virtually,
>
>Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
>[e-mail]
>
>

Ok, here's a true story that'll might shed some light on the HD vrs DD. I=
 have=20
a freind that uses HD disks on his DD drive (Amiga).  Never had a problem=
.  He=20
went to copy a disk for me and opened a brand new package.  The disks wou=
ld=20
not format in my drive, he figured there was a problem with the drive.  S=
o he=20
tried formating with his computer, no luck.  Took them to an Amiga meetin=
g,=20
noone could format the disks.  He began to conclude he got a batch of bad=
=20
disks.  Well, we decided to try formatting them on an HD drive.  We forma=
tted=20
them on about 5 HD drives with no problems.  After a few phone calls, we =
found=20
out that the disks had a better and more reliable medium than normally us=
ed,=20
and would not format in DD drives due to different write current.  Lesson=
 to=20
be learned?  Only buy HD disks if you can use them as HD disks.  That way=
 you=20
won't waste your money if the disks don't work in your DD drive. (And I s=
till=20
would never trust them to an 81 drive).

BTW as far as HD being cheaper, you can get DD disks for free.  Go to the=
=20
local flea market and grab all the old AOL disks. Ver 1.0-1.3 were distri=
buted=20
on DD disks.
=20
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From: [e-mail] (ChrisC)
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I would say the one that has recieved the most RE:'s is=20

8000 Nude pics...
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From: [e-mail] (Bo)
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Subject: Re: Dratted Plus/4 ...arrgh
Date: 2 Jul 96 22:49:23 CDT
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> Not that the Plus/ 4 is completely a waste. The 128 color feature sure =
is=20
> nice (16 colors 8 luminance levels, including black). That would have=20
> been a nice feature for the c128 (but the idiots at CBM didn't implemen=
t=20
> it...why?)
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Paul Allen Panks
>=20
>=20
> --
> --
> "Chickens may lay eggs, but roosters wake you up in the morning. Nobody=
=20
> pays them to do that. I do less work than that and I get paid. And I=20
> don't like eggs anyhow. Ooh! Bacon!"
>=20
> Homer Simpson, on subsidizing small-town agriculture.
>=20
>=20

    The feature that gives the +4 its 128 colors is an awsome do-all litt=
le
chip called the TED.  Your video, sound and other goodies are all in ther=
e.
The c128 however, had to be c64 compatible, which means it had to have
a good old VIC-II chip.  To give the 80 columns, the 8564 was then added.
To get the 40 columns with 128 colors, CBM would have had to put yet a=20
third video chip into the machine, and jacked the price accordingly (alon=
g
with our wait for its release, I imagine... 3 video chips in one machine?=
!).

       - Bo
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: PET 200
Date: 2 Jul 1996 09:33:22 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,                         =
 =20
   [e-mail] (Anders Erlandsson) wrote:          =20
>What is this machine PET 200? How old? Built in basic?
>Is it a one piece machine or is there separate monitor?
>
>Is it worth anything?

  I have one of these. It says "Commodore Model 200" on the front panel.
But on the backside it says 8032-SK, and by this name it is listed in
Jim Brain's Canonical List of Commodore Computers.
  This machine has basic 4.0 and 32 kB of RAM. Basically it is just
CBM8032 in a new case. It has a built-in monitor and a separate keyboard.
  To my knowledge, there were also models 210 and 220. Most likely these
were not sold as 200 series machines in USA.

Ville

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From: Radioactive Warrior <[e-mail]>
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Subject: CIA serial port discrepancy, $DD0C
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 02:49:41 +0000
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Hi all...  Found a new service provider and spent the past few hours
catching up on the reading- whew...

Ok, I found a program that wouldn't work on on c64 but would work on
two others (all have same VIC and kernal...) closer examination revealed
the program checks the serial data register, $DD0C, and decides what
type of c64 you are using...  Well, this one c64 (that messes up) upon
powerup gives me "31" when I type "POKE56588,123:PRINTPEEK(56588)" and
the others give "123" ... I tried poking other numbers and the results
are the same on the odd c64 except when a value larger than 127 is poked
in it gives back "159"  (31+128...) so it seems the high bit is ok...
I tried the other CIA, $DC0C, and that one works like normal but they
have the same datecode, 2783...  So what gives?  Is this CIA bad or
were there errors in the old SP design (I know the SP of the 6522's
were bad...) could this 6526 have been made using a 6522 die or some
such thing?  Other than this small bug, the chip has preformed 100%
using fast-DOS loaders and user-port prehipreals and no problems till
now...

Thanks for any/all info-
Radioactive Warrior
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From: "Bruce R. McFarling" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Zip Drives
Date: 3 Jul 1996 03:44:48 GMT
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Dallas Legan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone done anything with hooking up Iomega Zip Disk Drives
>up to CBM machines out there?

Do you mean parallel port Zip or SCSI Zip?  They are
two different questions, after all: a User Port cable to
hook onto a parallel port ZIP would let someone inexpensively
double the use of a Zip drive for another computer; a SCSI
seems like a RamLink kind of endevour.  I'm interested in
the first, but this pesky job seems to think it has first
call on my time. <sigh>
=20
Virtually,

Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
[e-mail]


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In article <4r11ee$[e-mail]>, From=20
[e-mail] (InS@Ne DoM@iN), the following was written:
> Hi there....  I have just picked up a 1571 floppy drive and=20
> desperately need a manual.  What are the two micro-switches on the=20
> back of the drive? Are there any special commands to access both sides
  > of the disk? > =20
The micro switches set the device number as follows
=20
    Left    Right    Device#
     UP      UP         8
    Down     UP         9
     UP     Down        10
    Down    Down        11

Open 1,8,15,"U0>M1"  puts the drive in 1571 mode
Open 1,8,15,"U0>M0"  puts the drive in 1541 mode

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From: [e-mail] (Ojala Pasi 'Albert')
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Subject: Re: Multithreading OS for the C64
Date: 2 Jul 1996 14:03:10 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Maarten Ruigrok <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Andre Fachat) wrote:
>>This is the announcement of "OS/A65", a 6502 CPU operating system
>>I wrote some time ago and which I now put on the Web. It is
>>copyrighted under the GNU public license.

>>Some of its features are:
>> - preemptive multitasking/multithreading

>how did you make it pre-emptive when the 6502 processor itself has no wa=
y to
>check for boundaries or anything (so called trap errors coming from the
>processor itself (in pc systems btw)).

Pre-emptive does not imply protected. Pre-emptive multitasking
simply means that the tasks do not know when they will lose the
cpu, and that they don't need to call any functions to switch
tasks. If they are not doing any inter-process communication,
they can be coded just like they were the only task in the
system (in the bounds of the coding rules, of course).

It's all interrupt magic, quantums, schedulers etc. :-)
For some theory, read http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/ -> Master's Thesis

-Pasi

--=20
"Merchandising ? We'll be merchandised ? You can't be serious, sir."
"I heard this was in the works a few weeks ago. I fought against it.
 And lost."
-- Ivanova and Sheridan in Babylon 5:"There All the Honor Lies"
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Understanding Xmodem ?
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:57:17
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On 07/02/96, Kungfushi quoted All: Understanding Xmodem ?.

JS> I'm working on a very specialized little terminal program (ML) and ha=
ve
JS> managed to get the rs232 open and the modem connected to the other
JS> computer. I've worked out the transfer tables but::
JS>
JS> I need to upload a file using xmodem. Unfortunately, I haven't been
able to
JS> figure out the specifications.  Would someone please write me a short
JS> little routine for an Xmodem upload in assembly language. Please
include
JS> some explanations. I can figure out the rest of the modem stuff.
JS>
JS> Jim Self - Gated via NewsHound 2.0

    Jim, there is an article in the regular Compute June 1992 issue (not
the Gazette Section but the regular Compute on page 56 that talks about h=
ow
xmode
m ensures that the data arrives safely.  Hope this helps.
                                            -Kungfushi
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From: Radioactive Warrior <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: How to transfer files from PC to C64?
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 01:39:31 +0000
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Josh Lubliner wrote:
>=20
> I have some files that I need to transfer from my PC to my Commodore
> 64.  I have a serial cable that goes from DB25 to C64 user port (at
> least I think it's the user port -- the one with the male edge
> connector), but I don't have any software to go with it -- in fact, I
> don't have any software at all (except the software to run the PROM
> burner which is the entire reason for getting the files onto the C64
> in the first place -- and that software is on a PROM!)

Hmmm. seems to me a good monitor (micromon comes to mind) has a feature
to input bytes from the user port (like it was a disk drive) so you
could "load" the hex data into c64 memory like that then save the mem.
to disk/tape using the monitor SAVE command, S "FILENAME",8,ADDL,ADDH
or somthing like that...

yawn, sorry- no time for specifics...
RadWar
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From: [e-mail] (Martijn van Buul)
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Mike Neus ([e-mail]) wrote:
| In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]=
.uk=20
| >
| >Technical term:  Interlace

| Actually it is not interlacing as most people think of the term.  I=20
| personally think dithering is a better term and is also more commonly=20
| accepted to refer to this type of process outside of the C64 community.=
  I=20
| purposly did not say interlace because I personally think it is confusi=
ng and=20
| misleading.
Well, it might not be "interlacing", but "dithering" is even more confusi=
ng
IMHO. Dithering is a way to "emulate" colours/ shades of grey, by making
a raster (bit pattern) of two colours. That's not the case here.=20

Personally, I prefer interlacing. Allthough it's not technically correct
(interlacing is used in many computers to expand their graphic abilities
even with CRT's who can't handle it. The basic thought is splitting the
screen in even and odd rasterlines, and display only one half at the time=
),
it's better then dithering. The only difference between interlacing and
this "colour-switch-gag" is the fact that the two colours are written on
the same rasterline, instead of on different ;)
=20
I know I may sound a little picky, but...

Martijn
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                         (Pino Is Not Onno!)
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From: [e-mail] (Zach Douglas)
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Ok, to kill three birds with one stone:

Sign up for my commodore auction - complete boxed systems (VIC-20, C64,
C64C, 1541) plus games, utils, and stuff - many boxed, carts, cassettes,
and disks. =20

To Subscribe to the auction, reply to this with "SUB COMMIE" as email
subject header!


TI Carts For Sale First come first serve:
TI CARTS:

Demolition Division          $1.00
Fathom (The Imagic Game)     $1.50
Hopper                       $ .75
Jawbreaker II                $1.00
Meteor Multiplication        $1.00
Microsoft Multiplan          $ .50
Mind Challengers             $1.50
Othello                      $ .50
Othello                      $ .50
Personal Record Keeping      $ .50
Reading On                   $2.00
Story Machine                $2.00
Super Demon Attack           $1.00
Tombstone City               $ .50
Touch Typing Tutor           $ .50
Video Graphs                 $1.50

TI Speach Synthesizer - add speach to your TI with speach carts.
$5.00 OBO


Other stuff for sale:


5200 Arcade Carts:

Pac-Man            .50
Pole Position      .50
Centipede          .50

Atari 8 Bit

Pac-Man            .50


NES Game Genie and Code Book - $7.00

Handheld Game:  Electronic Jordan Vs. Bird, Tiger Heli 1988. Minor
scratches on screen, everything else great.
                                      Price $3.50


2600 Carts for Sale

Mountain King, CBS, slight scuff on front crease    - $2.00
Swordquest Fireworld, Unopened Silver Box           - $4.00
Othello (R, Matte, Medium rip on front)             - $ .50
Vanguard                                            - $ .50


Farside Book by Gary Larson
The Farside Observer         $3.00
Unnatural Selections         $3.50


DOCS
Video Chess Docs - .25
Wordzapper  - .25
Star Raiders - .25
Atari Log Book, water damage - .25
Atari Force #1 - .75
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From: "Bruce R. McFarling" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (Ojala Pasi 'Albert') wrote:

>Pre-emptive does not imply protected.

But it *is* interesting that for code that doesn't
touch the memory manager, a banked 6502 memory scheme gives
memory protection without the overhead of boundary trapping:
the memory the routine is not available, instead of having
to slap the routine's hands and say 'naughty, naughty'.

Virtually,

Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
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[e-mail] (ChrisC) wrote:

> BTW as far as HD being cheaper, you can get DD disks for free.
> Go to the local flea market and grab all the old AOL disks.
> Ver 1.0-1.3 were distributed on DD disks.

Great hint.  Now all you have to do is to list
every local computer flea market on the planet earth,
and we will all be set up for life.
No, seriously, great hint.  I'm not sure I know
where to go in Newcastle to apply it, but still a great
hint.

Virtually,

Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
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From: [e-mail] (Paul David Doherty)
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In article <cjbr.836307180@gonix>, Jim Lawless <[e-mail]> wrote:
>For those of you interested in writing C64 adventure games, you might
>hit the following ftp site:
>
>   ftp.cmd.de/pub/games/c64

That would be

    ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/games/c64

>There are a number of sample adventure programs in BASIC there.

-- Dave

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Richard J. Concepcion ([e-mail]) wrote:
| Andrew Freck wrote...=09

| >Frankly, I'm happy that Gates ISN'T associated with the
| >64... I never really thought of the 64 as being a Nerd's=20
| >computer. Gates was much  happier with the number crunching=20
| >"BOXES" such as the Altair, CPM, and  early IBMs... Thankfully,=20
| >the 64 seems to be a favorite among the more creative, less=20
| >NERDLY, types...

| I wish Gates weren't....but didn't Microsoft write both Commodore=20
| Basic V2 (for the VIC-20) and Commodore 64 Basic V2.0 ?
Well, Microsoft wrote Basic V 1 for the PET...
The VIC-20 basic and the C64 basic are quite the same, btw.

If you've got an (old) PET: try wait 6502,x (x in the range from 0 to 255=
),
and try to get your feet back on the ground *waah!*

=20
Martijn =20
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Spinks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Problem with M.U.L.E.?
Date: 3 Jul 1996 19:23:16 +1000
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[e-mail] (Zotar) writes:

>[e-mail] (Matthew Spinks) wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>Does anyone else have this problem?   When playing M.U.L.E. in beginner
>>mode, the program goes into a loop when the ship comes back after six m=
onths.
>>Is this a known bug, or is there something wrong with my copy?   If it =
is a
>>bug, are there any fixes?
>
>>Cheers,
>
>>- Matthew.
>
>Matthew,
>
>I can't say if that is a bug or not because even tho I have played
>hundreds of games of M.U.L.E. I have never played in beginner mode.
>Why you ask?  Because the highest level is the only way to play
>M.U.L.E.  Because only at the highest level does crystite come into
>play and that is what the game is all about.  Try it at the highest
>level and never look back.......

That's fine, and I agree, but the complexities of mining crystite are
a bit beyond the six year old who's playing the game....

:-)

Cheers,

- Matthew.

--
Matthew Spinks      | 'If I became a philosopher, if I have so
PhD grad. slave     |  keenly sought this fame for which I'm
GSCIT Research Ctr. |  still waiting, it's all been to
Monash University   |  seduce women basically.'
Churchill, Victoria |
Australia           | - Jean Paul Sartre, quoted in 'Harpers', Jan '95
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From: hofman@[e-mail] (Peter Hofman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: I need a new VIC IIE chip for C128 (again)
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Hi (again),

anyone know where to get a new VIC-IIE for my C128.
It is a 8566R2ACA.

Does someone here in The Netherlands or in Europe know a supplier?
Any other supplier names / addresses are also welcome.

Regards, Peter

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Call it "columnar interlacing'.  Why make it sound easy?

--=20
Virtually,

Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
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Bruce R. McFarling ([e-mail]) wrote:
| Call it "columnar interlacing'.  Why make it sound easy?
errr.. OK.. Call it that way if you wish ;) it's interlacing anyway,
and NO dithering ...

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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Dallmann)
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Subject: Re: I have an idea!!! >:)
Date: 3 Jul 1996 10:58:23 GMT
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Bryon Vandiver ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hey! Here's an idea...
> Hook an external 14.4 to your c64 (with a little trouble, because most=20
> isp's require a min of 14.4) and develope a PPP baised software to=20
> connect to the net Via Commodore! Can't be too hard.

Your idea has almost come true !

look at http://wwwcip.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/~etk10217/proj.html
read about and GET the latest SLIPdemo from my webpage.

It can be used to connect your commie via SLIP to the net, all you need
is a external modem and a swiftlink, or special/selfmade RS232-Interface.

bye
  Daniel

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In article <[e-mail]>,
Radioactive Warrior  <noname> wrote:
>the program checks the serial data register, $DD0C, and decides what
>type of c64 you are using...  Well, this one c64 (that messes up) upon
>powerup gives me "31" when I type "POKE56588,123:PRINTPEEK(56588)" and
>the others give "123" ... I tried poking other numbers and the results

Why don't you swap the CIAs and see what the new behavior is?

evetS-

>Radioactive Warrior
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In article <4rd7u3$[e-mail]>,
Bruce R. McFarling <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (ChrisC) wrote:
>
>> BTW as far as HD being cheaper, you can get DD disks for free.
>> Go to the local flea market and grab all the old AOL disks.
>> Ver 1.0-1.3 were distributed on DD disks.
>
>Great hint.  Now all you have to do is to list
>every local computer flea market on the planet earth,
>and we will all be set up for life.
>No, seriously, great hint.  I'm not sure I know
>where to go in Newcastle to apply it, but still a great
>hint.

Except that...

AOL coasters are free because they are very cheap to produce.  I don't
know about the earliest disks, but I think the later disks use an incredi=
bly
cheap recording media.  I know one guy who uses one all the time and
hasn't had any problems, but I know a bunch of other guys who tried
using them and within weeks the disks started developing errors, etc.

The moral: for non-critical uses they are probably fine, but I wouldn't
trust any important data to them!

evetS-

P.S. I could never format HD disks on my Amiga 500, and never tried on
     my 1200.  I personally don't trust them in a DD drive.  YMMV.  IMHO.
     TANNSAAFL.  TTYL.

>Bruce R. McFarling, Newcastle, NSW
>[e-mail]
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=09
Where are new (or at least fully working or mostly dependable)
commodore 64 or 128's available for sale?  The only place I would
imagine are flea markets, but that seems a little sketchy.
=20
I still have boxes of C64 disks I'd love to use, the c64
emulator is cool and all but a) it doesn't run half of the programs
well, b) it's almost 70 bucks to register, which is a joke.


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From: [e-mail] (Po-Ching Lives!)
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[e-mail] (Matthew Spinks) wrote:

>Hi,

>Does anyone else have this problem?   When playing M.U.L.E. in beginner
>mode, the program goes into a loop when the ship comes back after six mo=
nths.
>Is this a known bug, or is there something wrong with my copy?   If it i=
s a
>bug, are there any fixes?

If I'm not mistaken, the game ends, period, after six months. So if
you want to squash those Mechtrons, do it quick! This isn't a
crippled copy you're using; the original game worked like that too.

Cameron Kaiser
[e-mail]
visit the CWI home page at http://www.armory.com/~spectre/cwi.html