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    For more information concerning Tcl (see "tcl-faq/part1"),
(see "tcl-faq/part3"), (see "tcl-faq/part4"), or (see "tcl-faq/part5").

Index of questions:

VII.  Where can I find information relating to Tcl on the Internet?
VIII. Are there any mailing lists covering topics related to Tcl/Tk?
IX.   On what sites can I find the FAQ?
X.    On what sites can I find archives for comp.lang.tcl?

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From: FAQ General information
Subject: -VII- Is there a bibliography of material relating to these
        programs?


1. The introductory papers on Tcl and Tk by Dr. J. Ousterhout are available
at

<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/tclUsenix90.ps>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/tkUsenix91.ps>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/tkF10.ps>

(The last of these files is the contents of Figure 10 of the Tk paper)

2. PostScript versions of published papers by [e-mail] (Don Libes)
relating to Expect can be found on the net.  See the bibliography
for details about the papers.

<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/expectk-talk.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/expectk.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/kibitz.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/regress-talk.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/regress.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/scripts.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/seminal.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/seminal-talk.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/sysadm.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/sysadm-talk.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/tcl-debug.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/tcl-debug-talk.ps.Z>

3. An early draft of the Ousterhout text book was available on the net.

    The section dealing with writing Tcl scripts is:
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/book.p1.ps.Z>

    The section dealing with writing Tcl scripts for Tk is:
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/book.p2.ps.Z>

    The section dealing with writing Tcl applications in C is:
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/book.p3.ps.Z>

    The section dealing with writing Tk widgets and managers in C is:
<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/book.p4.ps.Z>

The first two parts are about 130 pages in length and the third and fourth
parts are less than 70 pages in length each.  This is ONLY a draft and is not
permitted to be redistributed.  It is less up to date than the published
book, and does not contain the indexes.  Buy the book for the best information.

4. A series of PostScript slides used in a tutorial on Tcl and Tk at
the 1993 X Conference are available as:

<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/tut.tar.Z>

5. A set of PostScript files collected for the Tcl 93 workshop proceedings
is available as
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/workshop/tcl93-proceedings.tar.Z>
and contains the PostScript for a number of the papers and slides
presented at this workshop.

6. A second set of PostScript files consisting primarily of overhead slides
is available as:

<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/workshop/tcl93-proceedings2.tar.Z>

    This file contains the following slides:

a. "Cooperating Applications through Tcl/Tk and DCE", by David Richardson,
University of Michigan.

b. "Ak An Audio Toolkit for Tcl & Tk", by Andrew Payne, formerly of
Digital Equipment Corporation, Cambridge Research Laboratory, currently of
OpenMarket.

c. "Tcl Distributed Programming", by Brian C. Smith, Lawrence A. Rowe,
Stephen C. Yen, University of California at Berkeley.

d. "Supervisory Control Language - Applying Tcl to the Realtime Arena"
presentation by Computerized Processes Unlimited, Inc.

e. "Tcl / Tk as a Basis for Groupware" by Mark Roseman

    This file (tcl93-proceedings2) contains the PostScript for the paper:

f. "A Table Manager for Tk", by G. A. Howlett <[e-mail]>,
ATT.

    This file (tcl93-proceedings2) also contains Usenet postings
concerning the workshop by:

h.    /* ???? */
i.    /* ???? */
j.    /* ???? */
k.    /* ???? */

7. The Tcl Compiler (TC) Frequently Asked Questions by Adam Sah
<[e-mail]> is a document describing TC, which is a work
in progress.  Contact Adam for details.

8. A compact yet detailed overview of Tcl, Tk and Xf is available thanks
to the graciousness of [e-mail] (Dietmar Theobald) at:

<URL:ftp://ftp.fzi.de/pub/OBST/current/compress/psfiles/TclTk_notes.ps.Z>
(compressed format)
and
<URL:ftp://ftp.fzi.de/pub/OBST/current/gzip/psfiles/TclTk_notes.ps.gz>
(gzip format)

It is called Tcl/Tk in a Nutshell, was last updated in July of 1993,
and is part of the STONE structured open environment.

9. Softcopy of an article about PhoneStation, a tool using Tk and Tcl
presented at the 1993 Winter USENIX Conference is available as
<URL:ftp://bellcore.com/pub/PhoneStation/USENIX.ps>

10. A paper on Radar Control software which uses Tcl, by J. H. VanAndel is
available in PostScript form via the
experimental web server
<URL:http://www.atd.<URL:ucar.edu/jva/RadarControl.AMS.ps>

11. Mark A. Harrison <[e-mail]>  has written a Tk/Tcl
information sheet, providing an introductory look at why one might want to
use Tcl and Tk.  Version 1.0 was posted to comp.lang.tcl as
<278ml0$[e-mail]>.  Contact him for a copy.

12. Cedric Beust <[e-mail]> has written a short article
giving guidelines on where to start when writing a Tcl extension.  You
may find it at
<URL:ftp://avahi.inria.fr/tcl/writing-a-tcl-extension.ps>.
It is titled "Writing a Tcl extension: the Toocl example" and describes
the work done on the Tooltalk extension.  The paper is dated August 10, 1993.

13. Douglas Pan and Mark Linton <[e-mail]> have
written the paper ``Dish: A Dynamic Invocation Shell for Fresco''.
It is available at
<URL:ftp://sgi.com/graphics/fresco/dish.ps.Z>.  The FAQ
as well as some other papers are in
<URL:ftp://sgi.com/graphics/fresco/>.
Fresco is an X Consortium project - non-members interested in contributing
to the effort should contact Mark Linton.

14. Michael Jipping, Hope College , (1993) ``Using Tcl as a Tool Talk
Encapsulation'', in the Sun User Group Eleventh Annual Conference and
Exhibition PROCEEDINGS, pp 161-174.  This details work done writing an
abstract extension to Tcl which enables one to encapsulate tools to
make them ToolTalk aware.

15. A WorldWideWeb (WWW) resource for Ada Tcl is available as:
<URL:http://www.cs.colorado.edu/homes/arcadia/public_html/adatcl.html>

16. A WWW resource for the MBV Lab's Tcl/Tk support is:

<URL:http://cornea.mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil/tcl.html>
and
<URL:http://cornea.mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil/tcl/access.html>.
Note that the server does not seem to be answering at this time.

17. A WWW resource for what appears to be a German tutorial on Tcl and Tk
is at:
<URL:http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/home/stb/tcl_tk/tcl_tk.html>.

18. A WWW resource describing the HTML to Tcl preprocessor is
available at:

<URL:http://www.lbl.gov/%7Eclarsen/projects/htcl.html>

19. A WWW resource for describing the set of extra ServiceMail
Tcl scripts is available at:

<URL:http://keck.tamu.edu/cgi/staff/emailserver.html>

20. A WWW resource discussing Tk/Tcl style issues is available at:

<URL:http://www.atd.ucar.edu/jva/TCL.style.html>

21. A WWW resource discussing Visual Numerics PV-Wave with Tk/Tcl is
available at:

<URL:http://www.atd.ucar.edu/jva/rds/wave_tk.html>

22. A set of WWW resources discussing the Fermilab's use of Tcl within
a massive data manipulation package can be found at:

<URL:http://fndauh.fnal.gov:8000/spectro/doc/www/spectro.home.html>
<URL:http://fndauh.fnal.gov:8000/shiva/doc/www/shiva.home.html>
<URL:http://fndauh.fnal.gov:8000/ftcl/extended/tcllib/help>

as well as various pages underneath this set of homes.
This server does not currently seem to be answering Mosaic requests.

23. A soft file containing notes on Tcl and quoting philosophy can be
found at
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/README.programmer.gz>

24. There are references to Tcl and Tk (and perhaps other Tcl based
interpreters) within the following WWW databases:

The Catalog of Free Compilers and Interpreters:
<URL:http://cui_www.unige.ch/freecomp>

and
The Language List:
<URL:http://cui_www.unige.ch/langlist>

25. The first Tcl 'home page' is now available via the WWW URL:

<URL:http://www.sco.com/IXI/of_interest/tcl/Tcl.html>

Thanks to Mike Hopkirk <[e-mail]> for the time, energy and resources to
make this available.  Note that this page is also available for those behind a
firewall as:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tclhtml.tar.gz>

This WWW link is mirrored at the following locations.  There is no
guarantee that they will be as up to date.

<URL:http://ita.tutkie.tut.ac.jp/tcl/Tcl.html>
<URL:http://www.isu.edu/tcl/Tcl.html>

26. The home page for Jungle - the Tcl-based WWW server - is available
as:

<URL:http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Programs/Jungle>

27. The home page for Nautilus - the Tcl-based [incr tcl] browser -
is available at:

<URL:http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Programs/Nautilus/>

28. The home page for Zircon - the Tcl-based Internet Relay Communication
(IRC) browser - is available at:

<URL:http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Programs/Zircon/>

and a user's page at
<URL:http://shrug.org/pages/irc/zircon.html>

29. Documentation on the Tcl processing of WWW's server Common Gateway
Interface (known as CGI) can be found at:

<URL:http://www.lbl.gov/%7Eclarsen/projects/htcl/http-proc-args.html>

30. Mark Roseman <[e-mail]> has prepared a brief comparison
between Tcl/Tk and the Interviews C++ toolkit.  It is available via
email by contacting him.

31. Information about the SIMON Mosaic hotlist management tool can be
found at <URL:http://web.elec.qmw.ac.uk/simon/>.

32. Information about Fritz Heinrichmeyer's experimental Schematic SPICE
interface is available from
<URL:http://ES-sun2.fernuni-hagen.de/editor.html>

33. Information about ical is now accessible from
<URL:http://clef.lcs.mit.edu/%7Esanjay/ical.html>

34. Wade Holst <[e-mail]> is providing HyperTcl - a WWW page
providing various views on info available to the Tcl community.
It can be found at the URL
<URL:http://web.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Ewade/HyperTcl/>

Among the many services Wade provides are:

   1) hypertext descriptions of EVERY Tcl application archived at
      harbor.ecn.purdue.edu.
   2) hypertext version of the Tcl FAQ
   3) different views of the Tcl applications:
       a) Sorted by name    - every Tcl application known to me.
       b) Sorted by subject - a list of Tcl applications falling under
            general subject headers, like "graphics packages", or
            "unix utilities"
       c) Descriptions of Non-archived Tcl applications.
       d) View by changes
       e) View PostScript documentation
       f) View interesting ftp sites
       g) View man pages and FAQs
   4) list of new archived applications as they appear.  For example,
       you can find out what new applications have been archived in
       the last 8 days (BLT-1.7, beth4.0, zircon-1.15p4, tkmkf-3.6,
       sybtcl-2.11 and oratcl-2.11).

35. The URL for a page describing threaded tknews is
<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/people/mdm/tknews.html>
showing what the next release should be like.

36. The URL for a Tk-based Karel the Robot project is
<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/people/mdm/karel.html>

37. A Tk reference card can be found at:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tkrefcard.tar.gz>
This TeX and PostScript version of a Tk 3.3 card was provided by
Paul Raines <[e-mail]>.

38. A good document on Xauth is available at:
<URL:ftp://ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu/security/xsecurity.ps>
or
<URL:ftp://ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu/security/xsecurity.txt>

39. The documentation for the Xf command is available in European page format
as:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/xf-doc.ps.gz>
as well as United States page format as:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/xf-doc-us.ps.gz>

40. Vivek Khera <[e-mail]> has written a primer on setting up your
environment for xauth (by default a requirement under Tk 3.3) in the
document:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/Xauthority.gz>

41. A list of MPEG animations, done with Tcl scripts using TSIPP can
be found at
<URL:http://www.mcs.csuhayward.edu/tebo/Anims>

42. Project DA-CLOD (Distributedly Administered Categorical List of Documents)
allows the Web participants to set up organizational pages.  So a Tcl
page has been set up.  Check out the URL
<URL:http://schiller.wustl.edu/DACLOD/daclod>
or go directly to Tcl by way of
<URL:http://schiller.wustl.edu/DACLOD/daclod?id=00024.dcl>

43. A home page for tkmail can be found at
<URL:http://bohr.physics.upenn.edu/%7Eraines/tkmail.html>

44. A home page for a map marking program can be found at
<URL:http://www.dl.ac.uk/CBMT/mapmarker/v02a/doc_html/HOME.html>

45. A simple httpd written in Tk/Tcl can be found at
<URL:http://arsenio.mit.edu:8001/>

46. A demo of images generated using Tk based tools can be found at
<URL:http://arsenio.mit.edu:8001/html/gscript.html>

47. Documentation for the DART project can be found at
<URL:http://fndaub.fnal.gov:8000/dart_v1_0.html>
There may be some problem with this server.

48. NeoSoft now has a home page - see
<URL:http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/default.html>
for it's Tcl page.

49. A home page for the program currently known as tkWWW is
<URL:http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/course/other/cdsdev/html/welcome.html>
A status page for tkWWW from CERN is found at
<URL:http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TkWWW/Status.html>
Internals information can be found at
<URL:gopher://gopher.slac.stanford.edu/h0/WWW%20Documentation/TkWWWDoc/internals.html>

50. An example of the output from TreeLink can be found at:
<URL:http://aorta.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/%7Egaier/treelink/>
TreeLink is a Tk/Tcl program which draws a hypergraph of links from an
HTML document.

51. The documentation for the ILU software environment, which enables
systems to be written which communicate between many different languages,
including Tcl, can be found at:
<URL:ftp://parcftp.parc.xerox.com/pub/ilu/1.6.4/manual-html/manual_toc.html>

52. Huayong YANG <[e-mail]> in
<URL:news:2q1iko$[e-mail]> wrote a review of Tcl and the Tk Toolkit.

53. A page to locate the various versions of Wafe can be found at
<URL:http://www.es.net/pub/public-domain/wafe/.INDEX.html>

54. A draft paper titled "Kidnapping X Applications" is available as a
part of the TkSteal tar file.  It is authored by
Sven Delmas <[e-mail]> and discusses the use of the TkSteal
package to integrate existing X applications into a Tcl/Tk based program
without having to make changes to the X application.

55. A page dedicated to the new HTML editor tkHTML can be found at:
<URL:http://alfred1.u.washington.edu:8080/%7Eroland/tkHTML/tkHTML.html>

56. A WWW section for Hdrug , an environment to develop logic grammars
for natural languages, is available at

<URL:http://tyr.let.rug.nl/%7Evannoord/prolog-app/Hdrug/>

It uses ProTcl and TkSteal.

57. The HTML slides and demo pictures for Patrick Duval's talk in New Orleans
titled ``Tcl-Me, a Tcl Multimedia Extension'' can be viewed at:
<URL:ftp://ftp.inria.fr/scratch/made/www/tcl-me/slide.1.html>
and are available as a tar file at
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/workshop/1994/tcl-me.tar.gz>

58. A set of HTML pages for the scotty and tkined applications have been
created.  They can be found at:
<URL:http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/nm/tkined/welcome.html>
<URL:http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/nm/scotty/welcome.html>

59. An archive for the distributed processing incr tcl discussion may
be found at
<URL:gopher://nisp.ncl.ac.uk/11/lists-a-e/distinct/>

60. A copy of the paper Kevin B. Kenny <[e-mail]>
presented at the Tcl 94 workshop is accessible on WWW as
<URL:http://crdis1.ge.com/papers/gecrd/mtl/mdip/tcl94/00header.html>

61. Terry Evans <[e-mail]> is coordinating work on a
tcl/tk interface to gdb.  Send him email if you would like to help out.

62. The HTML home page of Jonathan Kaye <[e-mail]>
<URL:http://www.cis.upenn.edu/%7Ekaye/home.html> contains a pointer to
lisp2wish, a package that allows a Tcl/Tk process and LISP process
to synchronously communicate.

63. The following are a series of references to papers
relating to the Safe TCL package.
<URL:ftp://thumper.bellcore.com/pub/nsb/st/safe-tcl.ps>
<URL:ftp://thumper.bellcore.com/pub/nsb/st/safe-tcl.txt>
<URL:ftp://thumper.bellcore.com/pub/nsb/st/em-model.txt>

64. A review of Tcl and the Tk Toolkit appeared in misc.books.technical
on May 2, 1994 as Message-ID: <2q1iko$[e-mail]> by
[e-mail] (Huayong YANG) who recommended the book to
X programmers.

65. Mark Eichin <[e-mail]> has a HTML page in which he describes
a Tcl random number generator.  See
<URL:http://www.cygnus.com/%7Eeichin/random-tcl.html>
for details.  See <URL:http://www.cygnus.com/%7Eeichin/> for pointers
to a graph editor and a dialog box set of routines.

66. The ftp address for a Quick Reference TeX guide, updated recently
to Tcl 7.3 is:

<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/QuickRef.tar.gz>

Many thanks to [e-mail] (Jeff Tranter) for
contributing it.

67. PostScript versions of the man pages were provided by
[e-mail] (Adrian Ho).  The addresses for these are:

<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tcl6.3.manps.tar.Z>
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tclX6.2b.manps.tar.Z>
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tk2.1.manps.tar.Z>

68. A series of papers concerning GroupKit are available as
<URL:ftp://ftp.cpsc.ucalgary/papers/groupkit.CSCW92.tar.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cpsc.ucalgary/papers/tclgk.TCLWorkshop93.ps.Z>
<URL:ftp://ftp.cpsc.ucalgary/papers/roseman.msc.thesis.ps.Z>

69. Documentation concerning the DejaGnu Testing Framework can be found
at <URL:http://www.cygnus.com/doc/dejagnu/dejagnu_toc.html>.

70. A very elementary introduction to Tcl can be found at
<URL:http://http2.brunel.ac.uk:8080/%7Ecsstddm/TCL2/TCL2.html>.  It is being
written by [e-mail] (Dr. David_Martland).

71. A WWW page for the Tix Tk widgets can be found at
<URL:http://www.cis.upenn.edu/%7Eioi/tix/tix.html>, maintained by
[e-mail] (Ioi Kim Lam).  A page for the beta version of Tix
can be found at off of this page.

72. The documentation for the Object Oriented Graphics package GOOD
can be viewed at <URL:http://metallica.prakinf.tu-ilmenau.de/GOOD.html>.

73. A demo of the NArray (numeric array) extension can be seen by pointing
a forms-capable WWW browser at <URL:http://www.lbl.gov/%7Esls/narray/>.
This page is managed by [e-mail] (Sam Shen).

74. The source code from the article "A Tutorial Introduction to Tcl and
Tk" by [e-mail] (Graham Mark) in Issue 11 (July, 1994) of
_The X Resource_, can be found at
<URL:ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/examples/xresource/issue11/TclTk.tar.Z>
or on one of the ftp.ora.com mirrors.

75. The PostScript for the start of a Tcl/Tk book being written by
[e-mail] (Brent Welch) is available at
<URL:ftp://parcftp.xerox.com/pub/sprite/welch/tclbook2.1.ps.Z>
to be published by Prentice-Hall.

76. The code from the article comparing MetaCard, dtksh and Tcl/Tk
from Issue 11 (July, 1994) of _The X Resource_ can be found at
<URL:ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/examples/xresource/issue11/Interactive.tar.Z>.

77. A WWW home page for Collaborative Biomolecular Tools (CBMT)
can be found at <URL:http://www.dl.ac.uk/CBMT/HOME.html>.  These
tools consist at a minimum of a Biomolecular C++ class library,
a library of filters and scripts in many languages, including Tcl,
GUI components in Tk and possibly other GUI languages, as well as other
data.  Read the page for more details.

78. The first Internet TclRobots Challenge is being held from now until
September 30, 1994.  Contact [e-mail] (Tom Poindexter)
for details.

79. A WWW page for tksketch can be found at
<URL:http://es-sun2.fernuni-hagen.de/editor/editor/editor.html>.

80. The WWW NNTP page for comp.lang.tcl is found at:
<URL:http://ecsdg.lu.se/cgi-bin/wwwnntp?comp.lang.tcl>.

81. The WWW home page for the AudioFile package, which has a number of
Tcl based clients, can be found at
<URL:http://orbit.cs.engr.latech.edu/AF/>.

82. Dr. Ousterhout has written a style guide that describes the
coding, documentation, and testing conventions that will be used at Sun
and has graciously made it available to other Tcl/Tk developers.  It
is located at <URL:ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ucb/tcl/engManual.ps>.  Feedback
is welcome, but specifices concerning actual conventions are unlikely to
change.  Primarily there is room for changes on the presentation itself,
as well as additional conventions which should be present but are not.  Notes
pointing to a conflict between a stated convention and Tcl or Tk
base code are actual of interest.  Send comments to Dr. Ousterhout.

83. A technical report describing the use and implementation of
tkSather is available as
<URL:ftp://csis.dit.csiro.au/pub/sather/papers/tkSather.ps.Z>.

84. A home page for the Teaching Hypertools series of tools is now available
at <URL:http://www.ece.cmu.edu/afs/ece/usr/svoboda/www/th/homepage.html>.  This
series of tools is intended to be used to add new features to existing
running Tk tools.

85. The home page for the Tcl question and answers FAQ can be found at:
<URL:http://route.psg.com/tcl.html>.  It is maintained by
[e-mail] (Joe V. Moss).

86. A WWW page about the Tcl/Tk commercial program SimCity can be found
at <URL:http://web.kaleida.com/u/hopkins/simcity/>.

87. A ProTCL WWW page (describing the Prolog to Tcl/Tk interface) can be
found by browsing <URL:http://www.ecrc.de/eclipse/html/protcl.html>.

88. A Work In Progress report from SAGE-AU'94 concerning cpumon can be found at
<URL:ftp://bilby.cs.uwa.oz.au/pub/glenn/sage-au94.ps>.  Note that at
one point, there were some missing screen dumps from the paper, but
it should be updated when the author replaces the images.

89. WWW documentation for the Portable Tk project can be found at:
<URL:http://www.cs.hut.fi/%7Ekjk/porttk.html>.  This project's goal
is to provide proof of concept to the idea of creating a version of Tk
which is portable between X, Windows, MacOS, AmigaDOS, and OS/2.

90. A WWW input form for feedback on Jon Knight's TCL-DP with Multicast
IP can be found at <URL:http://hill.lut.ac.uk/cgi-bin/tdpmfeedback>.

91. The SCOP command is a program which drives Mosaic and rasMol.  See
<URL:http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/scop/> for details.

92. An article as to why one programmer believes that Tcl use does not
scale to larger projects, see
<URL:http://www.hal.com/users/connolly/drafts/why-tcl-doesnt-scale.html>.

93. A WWW page which describes a Tcl frontend for processing WWW queries
and formas can be found at <URL:http://www.hyperion.com/~koreth/uncgi.html>.

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From: FAQ General information
Subject: -VIII- Are there any mailing lists covering topics related to Tcl/Tk?

    There are quite a number of mailing lists which cover topics
relating to the Tcl community.  As you begin one, if you will send
me information relating to the mailing list, I will add it below.

o    Basic Object Systems (BOS)

    BOS is a SELF-like objects extension to Tcl.

    To join, send email to [e-mail] and then
    send messages to [e-mail] .

o    Comp.Lang.Tcl by email

        For those USENET-deprived individuals who are thus unable
    to read comp.lang.tcl, an email alternative is available.
    If you get comp.lang.tcl you do not need to sign up for this list.

        A service called "listserv" is being run out of CERN to forward
    comp.lang.tcl postings via e-mail to people who don't have direct
    access to the newsgroup.  In addition, they are archiving the newsgroup
    so you can retrieve old postings from them.  Here is some more
    information about the service:

    1) send a mail to [e-mail] with one line in the body:

    subscribe tcltk

    2) see how it works (you will receive the mail with instructions from
       listserv);

    3) unsubscribe by a mail to [e-mail] with one line
       in the body:

    signoff tcltk

    4) again, signing off will be confirmed by listserv

o    Copenhagen SGML Tool (CoST) mailing list

    CoST is a beta level tool designed to enhance sgmls so as to
    add additional flexibility in processing SGML documents.

    To join, send email to [e-mail] .  Actual messages
    apparently go to [e-mail].

o    Dejagnu

    This set of mailing lists are NOT maintained by Cygnus, the
    developers of Dejagnu.

    Dejagnu is an expect 5.x based package designed to be a framework
    for testing other software.  Test suites exist for various GNU
    products such as GDB and binutils.

    3 mailing lists - dejagnu-bugs, dejagnu-developers, and
    dejagnu-questions - have been created as a part of the
    yggdrasil.com listserv.

    To subscribe, send the line:

    subscribe dejagnu-bugs [e-mail]

    to the email address [e-mail] where you put your
    own email address in place of [e-mail] and you put
    the name of the mailing list you wish to join after subscribe.

o    Exmh

    exmh is a GUI for MH mail.  It is available at
    <URL:ftp://parcftp.xerox.com/pub/exmh/>

    There are 3 mailing lists:

    To subscribe and unsubscribe to:

    o the release and patch notice mailing list, send email to:
    [e-mail] .

    o the release/patch notices, as well as discussions among
      exmh users, send mail to
    [e-mail]

    o the release/patch notices, user discussion and programmer
      discussions, send mail to
    [e-mail]

    Be sure to include the word subscribe or unsubscribe as
    appropriate.  Include your preferred email address if you
    want to be sure it is used.

o    ical

    Two mailing lists have been set up for ical-related information.
    Ical is a calendar application written using the Tk toolkit.


    Send mail to one of the two addresses below to be added to the
    mailing lists.

        [e-mail]
        [e-mail]

    *** Do not forget the "-request" part!!! ***

    The two mailings lists are:

    o [e-mail]
            This list will get announcements about releases of ical
        (including beta releases), and other announcements of
        high interest to ical installers/users/hackers.  The
        traffic on this list should be fairly low.

    o [e-mail]
            This list will be used for general discussion about ical.
        Mail sent to "ical-announce" will be automatically
        forwarded here, so you do not have to subscribe to
        both lists.

o    incr tcl - distributed version

    This is a mailing list for discussion of a distributed processing
    version of incr tcl.

    To join send a message to

    [e-mail]

    where the body contains the line

    join distinct firstname lastname

    To send to the list, mail :

    [e-mail]

o    KIS - Kernel Information Services

    The KIS interpreter is a shareware package which provides access
    to the UNIX administrator to various kernel information.

    Parallelograms has setup a mailing list for discussion of KIS.  To
    subscribe, send the message "subscribe kis <your-e-mail-address>"
    to [e-mail].  For more information, send the message
    "help" to [e-mail].

o    Macintosh Tcl

        This Mailing List is devoted to the issues of Tcl on
    the Macintosh.  This includes (but is not limited to) such
    topics as ports of Tcl to the Mac (MacTcl), Tcl questions
    relating only to the Mac (file I/O etc.), and porting of Tk to
    the Mac.  It is also a good forum for issues concerning Tcl based
    applications such as Alpha and Tickle.

        A previous mailing list was supported by W. Ross Brown.
    Ross, however, had to manage the list by hand.  This list will
    be managed by listserv software and will hopefully be more
    active.

        To get more information about the listserv server, send
    a message to "[e-mail]" with the word "help" in
    the body of the message.

        To get more information about the mailing list, send a
    message to "[e-mail]" with the line
    "information mactcl" in the body of the message.

        To subscribe to the mailing list, send a message to
    "[e-mail]" with the line
    "subscribe mactcl First_name Last_name"
    in the body of the message.  Substitute your real first and last name
    for First_name and Last_name.

        To have yourself removed from the mailing list, send a
    message to "[e-mail]" with the line
    "unsubscribe mactcl" in the body of the message.

        Otherwise, all posting of articles to the mailing list
    should be sent to [e-mail].

        If you have problems or comments about the administration
    of the mailing list, please mail them to [e-mail].

o    Microsoft Windows port of Tk

        Simon Kenyon <[e-mail]> announced in early
    April 1994 that the Information Technology Centre of Dublin, IRELAND
    was undertaking the port of Tk to MS-Windows.  He has set up the
    mstk mailing list for those interested in discussing it.

        If interested, send mail to [e-mail]
    to join the list and send comments and code to [e-mail] .

o    Modules

        Richard Elling and XXX have set up a mailing list for
    discussion of the use of the Modules tcl package, as well as
    related packages such as user-setup.  If you would like to be added
    to the modules-interest mailing list, send email to
    [e-mail] with the line

    subscribe modules-interest

o    MS-DOS Windows Tk Users

    A mailing list for the users of TkWin, the Univ. of Kentucky's
    port of Tcl 7.3 and Tk 3.6a to MS-DOS Windows is available at

    [e-mail]

    and msgs to [e-mail]

o    Nanny

    Parallelograms has setup a mailing list for discussion of Nanny.  To
    subscribe, send the message "subscribe kis <your-e-mail-address>" to
    [e-mail].  For more information, send the message "help"
    to [e-mail].  This mailing list is also used to discuss
    our Kernel Information System (KIS).

o    PLPLOT

    This is a mailing list in support of the plotting system called
    PLPLOT.  To subscribe, send a request to

    [e-mail]

o    Ptolemy

    Ptolemy is a simulation and prototyping system which uses tcl.
    To join the mailing list, send email to
    [e-mail] .

o    safe-tcl

    Safe-tcl is an extension to Tcl which one can use to process
    incoming email msgs as tcl scripts.

    To subscribe, send a msg to [e-mail] and
    then further email msgs to [e-mail] .

o    ServiceMail Toolkit

    ServiceMail is a stand-alone email server written in C and Tcl.
    It takes incoming email requests and can perform tasks for the
    sender.

    To join the mailing list, send email to [e-mail]
    or subscribe to servicemail-help mailing list by sending a message
    to the "listserv subscribe servicemail-help your-real-name" service at
    "[e-mail]".

o    tclMIDI mailing list

    tclMIDI is a Tcl extension to generate MIDI music information.

    To subscribe, send mail to [e-mail] and
    include the phrase

    subscribe tclmidi

    in the body of the message.  The subject is ignored.

o    tclMotif

    tclMotif is an extension which provides true Motif access to a
    Tcl program.

    This mailing list is maintained by [e-mail] .
    To subscript, send mail to this address with the request

    subscribe tclMotif <your name>

    and you will receive a mail message acknowledging this.  From then
    on, send mail to [e-mail] and it will be
    distributed.

o    TeenyMUD

    TeenyMUD is a multi-user dungeon program - allows multiple users
    to role play and converse in 'real time'.  It uses Tcl.

    To join the mailing list, contact
    [e-mail] and then send your
    mail to [e-mail] .

o    tkgdb
    A mailing list to discuss a graphical interface to gdb can be
    joined by sending a subscription request to

    [e-mail]

o    tknews

    tknews is a USENET news reader, capable of either direct or NNTP
    news reading.  To be added to the general discussion mailing
    list (tknews) or the bug reports list (tknews-bugs) contact
    [e-mail] and ask to be added.

o    tkWWW

    tkWWW is a tk-based WorldWideWeb client.  Contact
    [e-mail] to join the mailing list and send
    your messages to [e-mail] .

o    VMS Tcl/Tk

    Folks interested in Tcl on VMS in general can sign up to the
    [e-mail] mailing list for more details.
    An archive for the mailing list is available at:
    <URL:ftp://src.honeywell.com/pub/vms-tcl/mailinglist.archive>

o    WAFE

    WAFE is a Athena Widget front end which uses Tcl.  To join
    the wafe mailing list, contact [e-mail] .

o    XF

    XF is a Graphical User Interface builder which generates Tk and
    Tcl code.  To subscribe to the xf mailing list,
    send a "sub xf-l Your Name" line to [e-mail]

o    X Protocol Engine Library (XPEL)

    To join, send email to [e-mail] .

    XPEL uses Tcl for an embedded interpretor as well as uses
    safe-tcl in external monitor programs.


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From: FAQ General information
Subject: -IX- Where can I find the FAQ and who do I contact for more
        information about it?

    I am going to attempt to keep a copy of this file up to date on
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tcl-faq.part0[1-5].gz>.  There
are mirrors of harbor.ecn.purdue.edu maintained elsewhere - for
instance, it appears that cs.huji.il, ftp.denet.dk, ftp.luth.se,
hplyot.obspm.fr, rs3.hrz.th-darmstadt.de, sunsite.unc.edu,
swdsrv.edvz.univie.ac.at all have some portion of the harbor archives
available.  Also, I will be posting it on a regular basis to at least
comp.lang.tcl, news.answers, and comp.answers.

    Many FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive
site <URL:ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news/answers/>.  The subdirectory and
name under which a FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-name line at
the top of the article.  For example, this part of the comp.lang.tcl
FAQ is archived as
<URL:ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news/answers/tcl-faq/part1.Z>.
There is a Northern European archive for the FAQ at
<URL:ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news.answers/comp.lang.tcl/>
as well as a French location for the FAQ at
<URL:ftp://hplyot.obspm.fr/tcl/tcl.FAQ.gz>.

    There is also a mail server from which you can obtain a copy of
the FAQ.  Send an email message to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]) with the word help in the body of the
message to find out how to use it.

    Also, this FAQ is available from within gopher (by looking at
any one of the gopher holes presenting news.answers or FAQ lists), from
WAIS servers (such as the comp.lang.tcl.src), from a number of sites
which have available via ftp archives of news.answers and comp.answers
(use archie to locate one of these sites available around the world),
and probably other resources as well.

    Other news.answers/FAQ archives (which carry some or all of the FAQs
in the rtfm.mit.edu archive), sorted by country, are:

Belgium
-------

<URL:gopher://cc1.kuleuven.ac.be/>
<URL:ftp://cc1.kuleuven.ac.be/anonymous.202/>

  mail-server           [e-mail]  get avail FAQs

Canada
------

<URL:gopher://jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca/>

France
------

<URL:ftp://cnam.cnam.fr/pub/FAQ/>
<URL:ftp://grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr/pub/faq/>
<URL:ftp://grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr/pub/faq-by-newsgroup/>
<URL:gopher://gopher.univ-lyon1.fr/>

  mail server        [e-mail]

Germany
-------

<URL:ftp://ftp.Germany.EU.net/pub/newsarchive/news.answers/>
<URL:ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/usenet/news.answers/>
<URL:ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/doc/FAQ/>
<URL:gopher://gopher.Germany.EU.net/>
<URL:gopher://gopher.uni-paderborn.de/>
<URL:http://www.Germany.EU.net/>

  FSP            ftp.Germany.EU.net, port 2001
  mail server        [e-mail]
            [e-mail]
            [e-mail]

The Netherlands
---------------

<URL:ftp://ftp.cs.ruu.nl/pub/NEWS.ANSWERS/tcl-faq/>
<URL:ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/usenet/news.answers/tcl-faq/>
<URL:gopher://gopher.win.tue.nl/>
<URL:http://www.cs.ruu.nl/pub/NEWS.ANSWERS/tcl-faq/part[1-5]>

  mail server        [e-mail]

Switzerland
-----------

<URL:ftp://nic.switch.ch/info_service/usenet/periodic-postings/>
<URL:telnet://[e-mail]>

  anonymous UUCP    chx400:ftp/info_service/Usenet/periodic-postings
  mail server        [e-mail]


Taiwan
------

<URL:ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/USENET/FAQ/>

United States
-------------

<URL:ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/>
<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html>

    The Uniform Resource Locator (URL) id for the comp.lang.tcl FAQ is:

<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/tcl-faq/top.html>

The user can use a WorldWideWeb client to access the FAQ from this point.

    A WWW URL for the FAQ, where the FAQ is treated simply as one
long scrollable document (suitable for doing a search against, for
instance) is:

<URL:http://realsoon.wpi.edu:8080/faqs/tcl.FAQ>

though there are reports that this server is not responding to HTTP
requests.

    A complete archive of the newsgroup is available from:

<URL:ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/archive/usenet/comp/lang/tcl/>

A good place to start looking through this archive is:
<URL:ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/usenet-archives/comp/lang/tcl/+Index>
which contains a list of all the filenames and subject lines of each of the
articles.  Another archive available is

<URL:ftp://olive.kek.jp/pub/tcl/News/>

where the archive is organized by collecting each month's worth of postings
into it's own file.  This archive has been kept since January 1993.

    A new source of the FAQ!  Thanks to
Taguchi Takeshi <[e-mail]> we now have the comp.lang.tcl FAQ
translated into Japanese.  It may even be readable using the Japanized version
of Tk.  You may find it at:
<URL:ftp://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/tcl/docs/tcl-faq-j5.1.tar.gz> as well as
<URL:http://tanaka-www.cs.titech.ac.jp/~kumano/Tcl-FAQs/tcl-faq.html>.

As new versions are translated, the version number will change (obviously).

    Let me know when you find the FAQ in new and unusual locations
so I can update this resource guide!


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From: FAQ General information
Subject: -X-    On what sites can I find archives for comp.lang.tcl?

    One ftp archive of comp.lang.tcl is available from
<URL:ftp://csc.canberra.edu.au/pub/motif/comp.lang.tcl/>.
[e-mail] (Jan Newmarch) maintains it.

    Another archive is available as <URL:ftp://olive.kek.jp/pub/tcl/News/>
and is stored as a series of monthly archives.  It is maintained by
[e-mail] (Kazuro Furukawa).

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