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- TELECOM Digest Wed, 3 Jan 96 21:06:00 EST Volume 16 : Issue 3
-
- Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
-
- CompuServe and Germany (John R. Covert)
- Re: Compuserve Censors USENET in Europe (Ross E. Mitchell)
- US West, Regulators and Quality of Service (Peter Marshall)
- Re: New Canadian Telco Websites (Mark J. Cuccia)
- Re: Angst and Awe on the Internet (George Gilder)
- 60Hz Buzz on Phone Line and Modem Problems (Doug Rudoff)
- RBOC Interconnection Rates (Jonathan McHale)
- Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road" (Sudeepto Roy)
- Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road" (Eric Valentine)
- Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road" (George Gilder)
- Re: *66 Works on Ticketmaster Type Numbers? (Eric Valentine)
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- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:29:34 EST
- From: John R. Covert <covert@covert.ENET.dec.com>
- Subject: CompuServe and Germany
-
-
- This is supposedly the list of what CompuServe shut down in response to
- the Munich State Prosecutor's office:
-
- 66 alt.binaries.* groups
- alt.homosexual
- 2 alt.magick.sex[.*] groups
- alt.motss.bisexual
- alt.politics.sex
- 2 alt.recovery.* groups
- alt.religion.sexuality
- 130 alt.sex[.*] groups
- alt.sexy.bald.captains
- alt.stories.erotic
- alt.support.disabled.sexuality
- alt.tv.tiny-toon.sex
- 3 clari.* groups pertaining to sex and lbg news
- de.sex
- de.talk.sex
- es.alt.sexo
- 2 fido.* groups with "sex" in their names
- 6 fido7.* groups with "sex" in their names
- 15 gay-net.* groups
- rec.arts.erotica
- shamash.gayjews
- slo.sex
- soc.support.youth.gay-lesbian-bi
- 2 t-netz.sex groups
- ucb.erotica.sensual
- uw.alt.sex.*
- zer.t-netz.sex
-
- I cannot verify the accuracy of this list; it's interesting that
- alt.revisionism is not on the list, but might be missing because the
- organization which provided this list wasn't interested in that portion
- of the problem.
-
- Today the German government is denying ordering that these newsgroups be
- shut down or threatening prosecution (even though they had earlier raided
- the CompuServe offices in Munich).
-
- However, they admit that they told CompuServe that German law required
- them to monitor the content of the information provided by their on-line
- service to eliminate anything related to child pornography, revisionism
- about the holocaust, or other neo-Nazi activity; CompuServe insists that
- they are not responsible for content and had no choice but to shut down
- the groups, since they don't have the resources to do the monitoring.
-
- They shut them down world-wide, because they don't, at this time, have
- the technical means to deny access to a portion of their offerings to
- subscribers only in Germany.
-
- Of course, there are hundreds of other internet providers in Germany which
- still (at the moment) provide access to all of these groups. This access
- may or may not be by storing the text of the groups on servers owned by
- those providers, and that may be the key difference.
-
-
- /john
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: John provided a relatively 'cleaned-up'
- version of the list of newsgroup names. I received another version of
- the list with all sixty-six varieties (like the ketsup people, I guess)
- of the alt.binaries.* and all 130 of the alt.sex.* groups mentioned
- above listed by complete name. I am not a prude, God knows I am not a
- prude, and I think you know I am not a prude ... but that complete
- listing was rather embarassing, and I frankly would not have printed
- it here. My thanks to John for summarizing it all much more 'neatly'
- above. If you wish to see the complete list of verbotin newsgroups,
- check out a couple other e-journals on the net over the past couple
- of days. A couple of them eagerly ran the entire list of names, I
- guess to defiantly show how open-minded and liberal and tolerant they
- are -- or perhaps just how naughty they can be. All of course
- were accompanied by the usual 'censorship' and First Amendment arg-
- uments.
-
- Amazing isn't it as Tom Lehrer, the Harvard mathemetician turned comic
- noted in some of his performances, "the people who enjoy seeing smut
- never will admit that they like it and enjoy seeing it and reading it ...
- they always couch it in First Amendment theories ... always in a sort
- of third person removed approach. They'll never admit to their own
- prurient interests in the subject matter, preferring instead to blame
- all the problems on the First Amendment, although they don't quite
- phrase it that way either."
-
- Just think how stimulating and intellectually honest things would be
- if the people who are making the biggest fusses about Compuserve and
- the net right now would just openly say 'I like reading and posting
- to those groups', or 'I like having those groups because seeing others
- with interests like mine help validate my own behavior'. But oh no ...
- the First Amendment has to take still another beating. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: rem@world.std.com (Ross E Mitchell)
- Subject: Re: Compuserve Censors USENET in Europe
- Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:15:46 GMT
-
-
- Recently the TELECOM Digest Editor wrote in response to Jean B Sarrazin's
- note complaining about Compuserve's "censoring" of USENET groups:
-
- > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You are confused. You are having a
- > knee-jerk reaction of your own. First, let us understand the correct
- > use of the term 'censorship'. By definition, only the government can
- > censor soemone. Compuserve is not the government. 'Censorship' is
- > when the government physically stops you from speaking or writing on
- > whatever topics you wish.
-
- With all due respect to PAT, I know of no source which limits the meaning
- of censorship to government-imposed censorship. In fact, the film and
- television industries have long histories of self-imposed censorship.
- Certainly some of us remember the "network censors" of the early days of
- television.
-
- Further, the word censor is defined in The American Heritage Dictionary
- as simply "A person authorized to examine books, films, or other
- material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally,
- politically, or otherwise objectionable." Censorship itself is defined as
- "The act, process, or practice of censoring."
-
- So while we might agree or disagree that Compuserve's "removal of
- objectionable" material (i.e. censorship) is ill-advised, I believe it
- misses the point to argue that this is not a form of censorship at all.
-
-
- Ross Mitchell
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Your own definition agrees with *me* !
- "A person who is authorized to examine ... and remove ..." Now, what
- is the *only* entitity in a position to do that to whom we as citizens
- have little or no recourse? Can you spell G_O_V_E_R_N_M_E_N_T ?
-
- The First Amendment addresses what the *government* may and may not do.
- It says nothing about how individuals and companies may choose to
- interact with one another. The entire Bill of Rights does not protect
- individuals from each other; it protects us from the *goverment*. How
- effective is any attempt at censorship other than the government
- variety?
-
- To put it another way, there are no laws or consitutional provisions
- against individuals and private organizations imposing *passive* forms
- of censorship on each other. While I can be and am forbidden to come
- to your home and take away your printing machinery, the prohibition
- is against the theft of your property or an assault upon your person.
- If I steal your computer, I am charged with theft; not with the
- resulting censorship imposed on you until you obtain a new computer.
- On the other hand, if I leave you alone and do not molest you or
- remove your methods of communication **but simply refuse to help you
- propogate your communication for reasons of my own** then no laws
- have been broken.
-
- You cannot use the word 'censor' with the loose definition you presented.
- When you do, you cheapen its currency. All last year on the net, the
- term was 'child porn', and it got used and abused to the point it no
- longer has any shock value at all. Is the word for this year around
- here going to be 'censor'? Try it and see if in six months or a year
- anyone cares one way or the other. Do not ascribe individuals and
- private organizations making conscious choices in how they interact
- (or refuse to interact) with each other as 'censorship'. It isn't so.
- It only becomes censorship when Compuserve removes all the newsgroups
- and the government responds by saying you *must* subscribe to CIS. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Peter Marshall <rocque@eskimo.com>
- Subject: US West, Regulators and Quality of Service
- Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 18:39:36 GMT
-
-
- Forwarded FYI to the Digest:
-
-
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
-
- REGULATORS CHARGE U S WEST "STONEWALL"
-
- U S West Communications tried to "stonewall" official efforts to
- address its eroding customer service, according to regulators in its
- home territory.
-
- The U S West Regional Oversight Committee (ROC) said the telco's
- plans were contained in an internal memo instructing company
- representatives attending an ROC meeting in October not to give
- regulators a reason to "justify their existence."
-
- The ROC consists of regulators from throughout U S West's 14-state
- service area.
-
- Joan Smith, an Oregon regulator and former ROC chairwoman, said the
- memo reinforced the atmosphere of suspicion between U S West and
- regulators.
-
- "The idea was not to put anything in writing, because if they gave
- us an inch, we'd take a mile," Smith said. "I guess they think that we
- [regulators] have horns. Well, we can. But then, so can they."
-
- Regulators called the document a public relations black eye for U S
- West, which is already under fire for its inability to provide prompt
- primary and secondary phone service.
-
- In the Oct. 19 memo, U S West vice president Laura Ford said company
- representatives should push for internal measurement of customer
- service performance, rather than accept uniform regulations drafted by
- the committee.
-
- Ford urged the three U S West officials at the ROC meeting to take a
- "cordial but firm" approach. She emphasized that the regulators not be
- given "the impression that they should be measuring our service
- quality," or that they should "be micromanaging our business."
-
- U S West was provided a copy of the proposed ROC standards months in
- advance of the October meeting. However, the company did not offer a
- written response because it feared that "they [ROC members] might well
- have their backs up and be loaded for bear by the time we meet with
- them," according to the Ford memo.
-
- ROC members discovered the memo when one of the U S West officials
- left it behind after one of the meetings.
-
- U S West officials said the memo's content had "been blown out of
- proportion," but defended the premise that consumer reaction is the
- best indicator of how the company is performing.
-
- "Obviously, we're not proud that the memo is out there," said U S
- West corporate spokesman Dave Banks. "But its overriding message is
- right. We want our customers to set our customer service standards,
- because if we don't perform, sooner or later, they're going to walk
- when they have the opportunity."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:31:55 CST
- From: Mark J Cuccia <mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
- Subject: Re: New Canadian Telco Websites
-
-
- On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Will Macdonald wrote:
-
- > Aren't most on http://www.stentor.ca/ ?
-
- > I'm from AGT, our parent company being is at: http://www.telus.com/
-
- http://www.stentor.ca has a clickable map of Canada along with a list of
- hypertext clickable lines of the Stentor members and two associate
- members (Northwestel & GTE's Quebec Telephone).
-
- Originally, clicking on any of these Stentor member telcos brought you to
- a brief description of that company, the brief description being located
- within Stentor's website/server.
-
- I've only had access to the Internet since April, and I discovered
- Stentor's site at that time. At that time, most Stentor member telcos had
- only brief descriptions within Stentor's site, which could be clicked
- away from Stentor's map page, while Bell Canada seemed to be the only
- Canadian telco with a developed Website of their own, which could be
- clicked away (linked from) Stenotr's map/list at their webpage.
-
- Since April, the other telcos of Stentor one-by-one set up webpages of
- their own, which were hypertext linked from Stentor's map/list.
-
- After Northwestel began their own webpage sometime in September, only
- Newfoundland & Prince Edward Island seemed to be the only Stentor member
- telcos without webpages of their own- or at least telcos without webpages
- that were not (yet) hypertext linked to Stentor's webpage map.
-
- I did a `netsearch' on Newfoundland and came across their own webpage,
- which had not (yet) been linked to Stentor's map. (at least not in the
- past few days). I couldn't find anything for (Prince Edward) Island Tel.
- Co. when I was `surfing/searching'.
-
- I also came across Telebec & Northern Telephone with webpages of their
- own. These two companies are held by BCE (also the parent company of Bell
- Canada & holds either the company itself or shares of the parent
- companies of: Northwestel, Newfoundland Tel, NB Tel, MT&T, and (PE)
- Island Telco- which is also held in part by MT&T). Telebec & Northern Tel
- are not members or associates of Stentor on their own. Neither is a
- member of CITA- the Canadian Independent Telephone Association. But each
- is a member of their respective provincial independent tel. associations-
- Northern Telephone is a member of OTA- the Ontario Telephone Association,
- while Telebec is a member of ACTQ- the letters are for words in French,
- but I'll give the basic English here- Association of Quebec Telephone
- Companies.
-
- BTW, (GTE) Quebec Telephone is an *associate* member of Stentor. It is
- *not* a member of CITA, but it *is* a member of ACTQ. Northwestel *used*
- to be part of CN Telecommunications until about 1988. Back then, it was a
- member of CITA, until it was taken over by BCE (Bell Canada Enterprises),
- and thus became an *associate* member of Stentor (Telecom Canada).
-
- Edmonton AB (EdTel) was a Canadian `independent' telco (and a member of
- CITA), but it was taken over by AGT sometime around March 1995. AGT's
- holding company purchased it from the City of Edmonton. (EdTel was
- municipally owned).
-
- I'm still waiting to see when Ontario Northland Communications gets a
- webpage. It is a member of CITA, but not of OTA. When I was looking at
- Northern Telephones webpages, it was stated that toll services in
- northeastern Ontario were provided by the *provincially* owned Ontario
- Northland Transportation Commission. NT's service area `seems' as if it
- had toll switching/transmission services of its own- it has a number of
- exchanges and Central Office codes in central northeastern Ontario.
- Ontario Northland Communications has only a handful of local exchanges &
- NXX codes just north of and just south of NT's exchange operating
- territory. In some old CITA publications I have, it is stated that Ontario
- Northland Communications has some Class-4 (and even a Class-3)
- toll/tandem switches. I would guess that Ontario Northland Communications
- is part of the provincially owned Ontario Northland Transportation
- Commission. Maybe Nigel Allen or Dave Leibold could shed some more light
- on this.
-
-
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 12:16:28 -0600
- From: george gilder <gg@gilder.com>
- Subject: Re: Angst and Awe on the Internet
-
-
- cyberoid@u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) responded to my article
- which appeared here over the New Year's holiday.
-
- > Seems to me Mr. Gilder has his demons wrong. I haven't noticed a lot of
- > "left-wing Luddites" or "media Marxists" going full out to discredit the
- > Net.
-
- That's because you are not on the pub lists for new book releases. I
- have received at least 20 books in the last six months making
- ridiculous arguments that the net widens gaps between the rich and
- poor, the info rich and info poor, corporate monopolies and consumer
- rights, that the net invades privacy, pollutes culture, promotes
- isolation, emits carcinogenic rays, and destroys the sense of
- community fostered by TV. The endless leftist fears of monopoly,
- concentration, conglomeration offer new pretexts for the very
- government regulation that can actually kill the net.
-
- The fact is that the net is the enemy of all monopolies, hierarchies,
- pyramids and power grids of the existing establishment. By attacking
- the Net, the left allies itself with the old establishments of TV and
- telephony. The old dinosaurs will continue to copulate, as we see
- today, but the overall impact of the net is to flatten the landscape,
- promote equality, and multiply entrepreneurial opportunities. What
- the left fears is that the net will be too effective in opening
- opportunities for the poor around the world (bringing a billion Asians
- into the middle class in ten years), and thus will threaten the cozy
- nooks and niches of protected and overregulated welfare states of the
- West.
-
- > On the other hand, it looks to this humble observer that it's the media
- > magnates and the far-right crazies who run this Congress, who [promote]
- > consolidation, concentration, and censorship.
-
- Yes, there are conservatives who have proposed imprudent indecency
- rules, but Gingrich and Rick White are on their case, and the courts
- are extremely unlikely to uphold any new restrictions. However, the
- fears of corporate consolidation and concentration that you voice have
- led to a Telecom bill that gives the FCC 80 new regulatory functions
- relating to the net. The law of the telecosm suggests that traffic
- flows to the least regulated arena. If the left has its way, the
- Internet will be centered in Asia.
-
-
- Best,
-
- gg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: dougrud@blarg.net (Doug Rudoff)
- Subject: 60Hz Buzz on Phone Line and Modem Problems
- Date: 3 Jan 1996 09:14:11 GMT
- Organization: :noitazinagrO
-
-
- My step-mom's house's phone line has a very loud 60 Hz buzz. Any
- suggestions on how to get rid of it?
-
- It affects modem connections. The 2400 baud modem she has on her
- computer system can connect, but when I use my Global Village
- Powerport Gold (14.4 kbaud) I have no luck connecting even when I set
- it to connect at 2400 baud.
-
- Are there any filters that will help?
-
-
- Many thanks.
-
- Doug Rudoff dougrud@blarg.net Seattle, WA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:14:29 +0900
- From: jmchale@gol.com (Jonathan McHale)
- Subject: RBOC Interconnection Rates
-
-
- Would anyone know where to point me to for information on
- interconnection access rates RBOC's charge IX's (and others, if
- available -- e.g. cell operators), and the methods the FCC and State
- commissions use to determine fairness of such rates? I am studying
- the evolution of interconnection rules in Japan, and it would be
- useful to see what we do as a point of reference.
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Jonathan McHale Tokyo
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: sroy@qualcomm.com (sroy)
- Subject: Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road"
- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 22:50:06 GMT
- Organization: Qualcomm Incorporated
-
-
- In article <telecom15.535.5@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, Rob Hickey
- <rhickey@ftn.net> wrote:
-
- > 1) PCS phones cannot compete with cellular phones on price since they are
- > practically giving away cell phones;
-
- Wonder what prompted the author to make this comment. The "free"
- cellular phones are really heavily subsidized ones which come with a
- long term (e.g. 3 yr.) service contract. Why wouldn't the same be
- applicable to PCS?
-
- > 2) PCS air time cannot compete with cellular air time charges since most
- > cellular companies are not charging on evenings and weekends;
-
- With the use of emerging digital technologies (CDMA, TDMA etc.), airtime
- charges should actually be cheaper than cellular phones. Inherrently,
- these technologies offer higher subscriber capacities.
-
- > 3) PCS phones cannot be practically any more portable than the latest
- > cell phones;
-
- Somewhat untrue, I guess. In general PCS phones are more compact and
- handier than their cellular counterparts -- though these days 'tis
- difficult to spot much of a difference. Recently at a trade show I
- noticed a tiny PCS (TDMA) phone from a Japanese manufacturer that
- would fit the palm.
-
- > 4) PCS phones will not work in moving vehicles.
-
- Again, wonder why the author would say this.
-
- In general, the way I understand it, there's not a vast difference
- between PCS and digital cellular (except for frequencies,
- technologies, network topologies to a certain extent etc.).
-
- Please post your comments.
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Sudeepto Roy
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: exueric@exu.ericsson.se (Eric Valentine)
- Subject: Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road"
- Date: 03 Jan 1996 21:16:52 GMT
- Organization: Ericsson North America Inc.
- Reply-To: exueric@exu.ericsson.se
-
-
- In article 5@massis.lcs.mit.edu, Rob Hickey <rhickey@ftn.net> writes:
-
- I assume by PCS you mean the PCS that is being licensed around 1.9 Ghz.
- If so, I'll take a crack at it.
-
- > 1) PCS phones cannot compete with cellular phones on price since they are
- > practically giving away cell phones;
-
- They aren't making money on the phones. Sales of cellular and PCS phones
- are both heavily subsidized. But depending on the economies of scale
- (e.g based on technology choice etc.) the subsidies may or may not be
- smaller for PCS phones. The other thing to consider is the feature level
- of the phones. Same argument as for PCs: if today's PCs are five times
- faster than ones at the same cost a few years, can you say today's are
- cheaper? I think so. How about a PCS phone that support Short Message
- Service or more advanced data services?
-
- > 2) PCS air time cannot compete with cellular air time charges since most
- > cellular companies are not charging on evenings and weekends;
-
- Evenings and weekends are not where the cellular companies make their
- money. That free time is an unused resource and they will be happy to
- give it away in exchange for monthly subscription and occasional
- roaming fees. The battleground will be 1) for high end users that use
- their cell phones a lot during the day and 2) residential wireline
- replacement markets. For case 2) we should remember that the local
- phone companies don't charge for airtime either, and they make money.
- For case 1), you want to provide more services like voice/short
- message/voice mail packages. Then the high-end guys use their phones a
- lot more during the day.
-
- > 3) PCS phones cannot be practically any more portable than the latest
- > cell phones;
-
- Yes and no. Portability is not just size, it is how long you can use
- it, and where. Consider battery life. Consider security problems with
- the legacy cellular systems that can often make it a pain in the ass
- to use anywhere outside your home service area. A more modern system
- doesn't have those problems.
-
- > 4) PCS phones will not work in moving vehicles.
-
- Wrong. He must be talking about cordless phones or maybe field trials
- for some of the CDMA systems. There is no inherent problem with using
- PCS 1900 in a moving vehicle unless you try something silly like
- pico-cells along an expressway, but that will hose an AMPS system too,
- just from trying to support the handovers. One version of PCS at 1900
- is GSM-based and upbanded from 900. It has been working in vehicles
- for some time now quite nicely, thank you. The same will be true some
- day for CDMA based systems.
-
- > Mr. Rowan questions why the PCS industry would spend billions in
- > infrastructure to duplicate services that already exist.
-
- Because they think they can make a lot of money. The cellular
- operators made a ton of money and there is no reason to think that the
- market won't support at least a few more big players (and a lot of
- small ones in markets that are too small to excite the big guys. Not
- everyone will get rich. Not nearly. But if you look at where the US is
- on the cellular penetration curve (still climbing fast) and consider
- even the possibility of starting to tap into the residential market
- (think about the synergies with companies like Sprint that could blow
- off access charges.)
-
- > Is there merit to these arguments, and do the same conditions apply in
- > the United States (given that millions have already been spent on
- > licenses)?
-
- There is merit in the argument that the cellular operators will not
- all be killed off by PCS. They have a head-start and didn't have to
- cough up billions of bucks for licenses. Now they will just have to be
- more responsive and competitive to try to hang on to their market
- share.
-
-
- Eric Valentine
- Ericsson Radio Systems
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:38:22 -0600
- From: george gilder <gg@gilder.com>
- Subject: Re: "PCS Faces Rough Road"
-
-
- > cellular technology will not be quickly missplaced for the following
- > reasons: 1) they are practically giving away cell phones; 2) cellular
- > companies are not charging on evenings and weekends; 3) PCS phones
- > cannot be practically any more portable than the latest cell
- > phones; 4) PCS phones will not work in moving vehicles.
-
- PCS is not a competitor for cellular; it is a new local loop
- technology, digital from the gitgo, that offers voice, internet
- access, mobility, and backhaul over the existing cableTV plant. Using
- CDMA, PCS will offer high security and bandwidth on demand as well. If
- the digital acoustics are superior to wireline, it will cut deeply
- into existing wireline markets.On the basis of their British
- experience, USWest estimates that they will lose some 30 percent of
- their market to cable based PCS. PCS will be complementary to
- cellular; you plug the same handset into your car system for vehicular
- usage.
-
-
- George Gilder
-
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-
- From: exueric@exu.ericsson.se (Eric Valentine)
- Subject: Re: *66 Works on Ticketmaster Type Numbers?
- Date: 03 Jan 1996 20:27:10 GMT
- Organization: Ericsson North America Inc.
- Reply-To: exueric@exu.ericsson.se
-
-
- In article 2@massis.lcs.mit.edu, relkay01@fiu.edu (Ron Elkayam) writes:
-
- > On Tue, 26 Dec 95 00:02:36 EST, Bill Rubin (rubin@watson.ibm.com) posted:
-
- >> But if it will actually work in these situations, I might actually
- >> consider using it!
-
- > It's pointless for heavily-used busy numbers. By the time you get the
- > ringing, and pick up the phone, the desired line is busy again (and
- > you'll be told to hang up and wait some more). It's not as if it
- > reserves you the right to be the next caller (it doesn't).
-
- There is an option specified for Automatic Callback that will allow
- the possibility of the calling line to be "reserved" for the
- subscriber that ordered the callback. It is problematic when the
- callback request is queued against a PABX or hunt group since you
- obviously can't reserve *all* lines going into the PABX. *If* we ever
- get the function that allows you to receive the number where your call
- finally ended up (assuming it is a single line, as may be the case for
- a hunt group) you should be able to order callback against *that*
- line. Of course, callback queue space is limited and everyone else
- will figure out the same trick. If you have CLASS ACB, you might try a
- couple of the numbers above a group number, since they are often
- allocated in sequence. If it turns out to be the right place, you
- should have a shot at queuing towards that *one* number and, if the
- telco has the option turned on, being able to reserve the line for
- your incoming call. A lot of ifs ...
-
-
- Eric Valentine
- Ericsson Radio Systems
-
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