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- Z*NET: ATARI ONLINE MAGAZINE
- ----------------------------
-
- December 13, 1992 Issue #22 Volume 7, Number 22
-
- Copyright (c)1992, Syndicate Publishing Company
-
- ~ Publisher/Editor..........................Ron Kovacs
- ~ Senior Editor..............................John Nagy
- ~ Assistant Editor...........................Ed Krimen
- ~ Writer............................Michael R. Burkley
- ~ Writer.....................................Bob Smith
- ~ Z*Net News Service NZ.....................Jon Clarke
-
- $ GEnie Address..................................Z-NET
- $ CompuServe Address........................75300,1642
- $ Delphi Address..................................ZNET
- $ Internet/Usenet Address................status.gen.nz
- $ America Online Address......................ZNET1991
- $ AtariNet Address...........................51:1/13.0
-
- * Z*Net: News Service FNET 593 AtariNet 51:1/13 (908) 968-8148
- * Z*Net: Golden Gate FNET 706 AtariNet 51:1/9 (510) 373-6792
- * Z*Net: S. Pacific FNET 693 New Zealand
-
- **--CONTENTS--**
-
-
-
- ## The Editors Desk......................Ron Kovacs
- ## Z*Net Newswire........................Ron Kovacs
- ## 1992: Year In Review - Part 1.........Ron Kovacs
- ## Join A Music Coalition..........................
- ## AtariNet, Network Overview......................
- ## Perusing GEnie.........................Ed Krimen
- ## Open Letter To Atari Users.......Nathan Potechin
- ## Z*Net Calendar........................Ron Kovacs
- ## The Unabashed Atariophile........Michael Burkley
-
-
- ###### THE EDITORS DESK
- ###### By Ron Kovacs
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Due to the horrible storm that hit our area this week, we have not been
- able to produce a regular edition. However, since our phone lines have
- cleared up, downed trees have been removed and communications links are
- beginning to open up, we will release this issue on Sunday.
-
- The Noreaster that hit this area was "The Storm of The Century" as
- called by local newscasters and weathermen. There were wind gusts of
- over 60 miles and hour, heavy rain which turned to snow. In northern
- areas here, snow was the only product of the storm which piled to over
- 30 inches.
-
- The storm began last Thursday and still effects our area today, Sunday.
- However, many lucked out while others, especially those in New York,
- Long Island and coastal New Jersey have lost homes and property. Not a
- very nice Chirstmas is being offered to these people this year.
-
- This week we will being the Year in Review 1992 along with our regular
- columns.
-
-
-
- ###### Z*NET NEWSWIRE
- ###### Edited by Ron Kovacs
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Headlines:
- Falcon bundled with D2D
- Injunction Against Microsoft
- Massive layoffs being considerd by IBM
- Syquest Technology files lawsuit
- Fujitsu develops first 256MB DRAM
- Free upgrade available from WordPerfect
-
-
- FALCON BUNDLED WITH D2D
- D2D Software is being bundled with the Falcon. This product is a basic
- direct-to-disk recorder and simple cut-and-paste editor. D2D Edit,
- another product, is a fully-professional version with SMPTE drive and a
- cue sheet-type editor. Also, 4T/FX is a multi-track program that
- provides mixing of the four channels and two effects (reverb, echo,
- flange, or distortion, etc., in any combination of two). It is going to
- range $500-$600.
-
-
- NEWSLETTER REPORTS INJUNCTION
- The "FTC: Watch" newsletter has reported that attorneys sent an informal
- 250-page report to commissioners last week, suggesting they consider
- seeking a court-imposed injunction against practices related to the sale
- of Microsoft's DOS operating system using Intel Corp.'s microprocessors.
- Rivals of Microsoft, have been complaining that the company uses
- predatory practices in selling its operating systems, which give the
- basic commands to personal computers. Microsoft offers discounts to
- makers of personal computers that agree to pay for a copy of DOS
- software for every personal computer they sell. Some rivals, such as
- Quarterdeck, have decided to stop marketing operating system software to
- PC makers because of Microsoft's dominance.
-
-
- MASSIVE LAYOFFS BEING CONSIDERED BY IBM
- Directors of IBM are being summoned to a special meeting next week amid
- reports the computer-maker is considering a downsizing initiative,
- including massive layoffs, that could cost up to $3 billion. A
- spokesman at IBM headquarters refused to comment on the meeting. The
- IBM board does not normally meet in December. This year, IBM has
- already taken restructuring charges of $5.4 billion - before taxes - to
- cover costs associated with the planned elimination of 40,000 jobs. The
- company has been downsizing for six years. By the end of the year, the
- IBM staff will have been reduced by more than 85,000 from its 1986 peak
- of 407,000.
-
-
- SYQUEST FILES LAWSUIT
- SyQuest has filed a lawsuit in California Superior Court against Nomai
- S.A., a French start-up company, and Srinivasan "Ravi" Chari, a former
- technical consultant to SyQuest, for theft of trade secrets, unfair
- competition and other wrongful acts. The court has issued a temporary
- restraining order enjoining Chari and anyone acting with him from
- developing, manufacturing, marketing, distributing and selling removable
- 5.25 inch Winchester disk cartridges for use in SyQuest drives. SyQuest
- is currently the only manufacturer of cartridges for use with SyQuest
- disk drives.
-
-
- FUJITSU FIRST 256MB DRAM
- Fujitsu has developed the world's first 256-megabit-DRAM chip. The new
- chip, measuring two by two centimetres, can store 64 times the amount of
- data as current DRAM (Direct Random Access Memory) chips. The new chip
- will be ready for serial production in 1996.
-
-
- FREE UPGRADE AVAILABLE FOR WORDPERFECT
- Users who purchase WordPerfect Office version 3.1 for DOS and Windows,
- or WordPerfect Office 3.03 for the Macintosh between October 13, 1992,
- and the initial release of WordPerfect Office 4.0 will receive a free
- upgrade. WordPerfect Office 4.0, scheduled for release at the end of
- first quarter 1993, is an electronic mail, personal calendaring and
- group scheduling program. A trade-up platform administration package
- will also be available for $220 with additional licenses ranging from
- $25 to $30.
-
-
-
- ###### Z*NET NEWS YEAR IN REVIEW (Part 1)
- ###### By Ron Kovacs
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Once again it is that time of the year where we present the year in
- review. There are going to be columns addressing the topic during the
- next few weeks that detail different aspects of this year. What I am
- going to do is focus on the news we covered in Z*Net and AEO (issues
- that we produced), from the Z*Net Newswire and feature articles.
-
- To begin 1992, we must go back to December 1991.
-
- December 1991
-
- Antic Publishing, Inc. is said to be planning to dissolve the
- corporation at year's end, 1991, taking its debts with it. PC HOME
- JOURNAL, Antic's other publication, is expected to be spun off to a
- legally new and unrelated corporation as of January 1, 1992.
-
- The announced and expected CDAR505 will NOT be produced at any time
- soon. Intended for a fall 1991 release, the unit would be identical to
- cheaper drives already on the market, making it a loss proposition for
- Atari. They will now promote the use of the 500+meg devices by
- releasing METADOS into the community as freeware. User can roll their
- own players just as they do hard drive now.
-
- The STylus pad-based ST that was said to be the future of computing and
- was at one time expected to be the "WOW" unit at COMDEX is tabled by
- Atari after market studies show that buyers are curious, but not willing
- to buy one.
-
- Darek Mihocka searches for a buyer of Quick ST as he prepares to leave
- the ST market and finish development of his Gemulator, to allow ST
- software users to follow him into the PC marketplace. Now working for
- Microsoft, Darek has become an advocate of MS-DOS.
-
- The Lynx is finally a major hit, with demand outstripping production
- ability. New dealer penetration will have to wait until after
- Christmas, as all current production is already pre-sold.
-
- FSM GDOS is about ready to go to market, as soon as the packaging is
- ready for dealer sale. It is expected in early January at about $50.
-
- The Portfolio is selling well, at double the rate it was before the
- double-priced and well promoted competition arrived from Hewlett
- Packard.
-
- The winners of Atari's STe/TT demo contest are announced. Noel Saw and
- Arvin Castillo win an Atari TT030 for their massive entry.
-
- Calamus S is scheduled to be released by ISD on December 15.
-
- Atari stock is down to $ 1 3/4 at the close of 1991.
-
- CodeHead Software announced the TEC -- the TOS Extension Card! This
- circuit board, developed by Germany's Artifex, allows you to use the
- very latest version of Atari TOS (2.06) in your existing 520ST, 1040ST,
- or Mega ST!
-
- Codehead also announced that effective January 1992, they will be taking
- over development and distribution for Quick ST Version 3.0. Darek
- Mihocka, the original creator of Quick ST, sold the product to spend
- more time developing a PC based Atari ST emulator.
-
- Gribnif Software announces the release of "XBoot - The Boot Manager"
- program for the Atari ST, TT and compatible personal computers.
-
- John Townsend from Atari Corp. states that with HDX 3.0x and above,
- "you can create partitions that are a maximum of 256 Megabytes. That
- means that the whole SyQuest cart could be one partition, but I would
- recommend at least two." He adds, "Remember, the smaller the
- partition... the fast[er] the read/write access will be. With big
- partitions, you will have a slower drive as the drive get[s] full."
-
- January 1992
-
- WordPerfect offered a special First Quarter 1992 Competitive Trade-Up
- for customers who currently own any version of WordPerfect for Amiga,
- Apple IIe/c or IIGS, or Atari. Customers could trade-up to WordPerfect
- 5.1 for DOS, WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows, or WordPerfect 2.1 for
- Macintosh for $150.US/$179.CN, or they can trade up to LetterPerfect for
- $89.US/$110.CN.
-
- Lexicor Software offered it's Virtual Cinematography and Graphics Arts
- Class. The classes covered; Tweening, 3D Objects and Motion, Finishing
- Animations and many others. These were online classes, being held on
- CompuServe and GEnie.
-
- The editorial staff of ST-INFORMER, a popular monthly Atari tabloid-
- format publication, walked off the job on January 6, and plan to create
- their own rival Atari magazine. According to Mike Lindsay, Oregon-based
- editor for ST-INFORMER since its inception nearly four years ago, the
- breakup is the result of a long-standing disagreement over ownership of
- the magazine. Brian Gockley is the new editor-in-chief.
-
- Greg Pratt leaves Atari as President for a new position with Creative
- Labs, Inc., makers of the "Sound Blaster" series of sound cards for
- MS-DOS computers.
-
- Atari Canada released details on new package purchase plans. The
- packages which include an educational institute, registered company
- employee purchase programs and non-profit agencies. The pricing
- structure, options and flexible payment plan ensures that a computer is
- within the budget of anyone even in these economically troubled times.
-
- The backstreets of the Atari community were abuzz with the word that
- Atari Corp was being, in fact had already been sold by the Tramiel
- family. However, official comment from Sunnyvale (after the Pratt
- announcement) was "Absolutely not."
-
- Taylor Ridge Books announces the release of The ST Assembly Language
- Workshop, Volume 1, a novice's guide to assembly language programming on
- the Atari ST.
-
- Atari announces that the one millionth game cartridge was sold for the
- Lynx video game system.
-
- Shadowsoft which brought out the classic Robotron with Williams/Bally,
- will put Joust on store shelves in April or May and will introduce two
- original titles; a puzzle game and a superhero title for the Lynx.
-
- The new Atari SM147 premiered at the National Association of Music
- Merchandisers show. The SM147 is a 14" paperwhite monitor with a flat
- screen.
-
- Atari announces the inception of a new business division named Atari
- Music. James Grunke will lead this new division and commented, "Atari
- has always done a good job making computers with a lot of power and
- benefits for the money."
-
- Computer Chronicles, the PBS program with over 700,000 viewers was on
- hand filming at the NAMM show. They focused on Atari in the MIDI field
- and Atari Music.
-
- Atari announces at NAMM that it's products will be serviced by the 250
- strong General Electric Service Center network though the United States
- and Canada.
-
- Dr. T's announced a new Audio/Video production kit for the Atari ST.
- The package includes the Omega music sequencing and editing environment,
- Hitman cue sheet production tools, and Phantom SMPTE syncronizer.
-
- Gribnif Software has announced the release of the "Crazy Dots" video
- display adapter. The adapter allows the Atari computer to drive a
- variety of VGA, Multi-Sync, and other high end color and gray scale
- displays.
-
- Bill Rehbock announces that Atari will make all of the released TOS
- development information available to the general public. An order form
- is included in the annoucement for purchasing the Atari TOS Developer's
- Kit.
-
- Atari was virtually the only computer being seriously shown at the
- National Association of Music Merchants show. The Atari area was the
- largest yet at any NAMM, apropos of Atari's new commitment to its
- official new Music Division headed up by James Grunke. An open area
- accommodated as many as 25 work stations manned in COMDEX fashion with
- a host of third party developers. They included music specialty
- developers Hybrid Arts, Thinkware, Roland, Steinberg-Jones, Dr.T's,
- C-LAB, Fostex, JLCooper, Interval, Pixel, Korg, Hotz, and many more,
- each showing off their latest products for the Atari platform.
-
- Atari Advantage Magazine, from the creators of ST Informer Magazine is
- announced.
-
- ISD announces Calamus SL. SL marks the transformation of Calamus from
- a desktop publishing program to an expansive DTP environment.
-
- The Boston Computer Society announces that a meeting in April will
- feature a special presentation and announcement of new hardware from
- Atari Corporation. (The Falcon)
-
- ST-Informer returns in a newsprint-with-color book format similar to
- AtariUser magazine, publisher and now editor Rod Macdonald has enlisted
- the aid of Brian Gockley on the East coast, Donovan Vicha covering the
- central USA, and Robert Goff in the West, as principal contributors.
-
- Atari Explorer Magazine releases copies of their February 1992 issues
- BEFORE the January 1992 issue. The February issue was a special MIDI
- issue, including a mini-magazine inside called ATARI ARTIST.
-
- Ericsson GE released the Mobidem, the first mass market portable
- wireless modem.
-
- Next week we continue through our tour of 1992...
-
-
-
- ###### JOIN COMPUTER MUSICIAN COALITION!
- ###### A World of Electronic Music Excitement Awaits You!
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- WHAT IS CMC? Computer Musician Coalition
- CMC is a worldwide coalition of individuals and institutions dedicated
- to the advancement of electronics and computers used in music
- applications. CMC encourages the creation and appreciation of music
- created using high technology. CMC brings together people of many
- perspectives and careers with the common goal of excellence in music
- through the effective use of electronic and computer technology.
-
- WHO JOINS CMC?
- Everyone With A Taste For Fresh, Excellent, And Entertaining New
- Experiences in Music!
-
- The CMC membership includes individuals and institutions with diverse
- musical appreciations. Members come from all walks of life, but all
- have the same desire to experience and participate in the advancement of
- electronics in musical composition, production, arrangement, and
- performance.
-
- YOU SHOULD JOIN TOO! CMC Member Categories
- CMC memberships are open to anyone who supports the purposes of CMC and
- wishes to receive CMC publications and services. There are four
- membership categories -- Connoisseur, Artist, Dealer and Vendor. Each
- category is specifically designed to benefit and encourage participation
- by each membership group.
-
- CMC MEMBER CATEGORY BENEFITS: CONNOISSEUR MEMBERSHIP
- Open to any individual who supports the purposes of CMC and wishes to
- receive CMC publications and services.
-
- AFTERTOUCH CATALOG SUBSCRIPTION
- CMC members receive a six-issue subscrition to AFTERTOUCH, CMC's
- bimonthly catalog of New Electronic Music Discoveries.
-
- AFTERTOUCH SAMPLER TAPES
- CMC members receive six AFTERTOUCH Sampler tapes. Samplers include
- compositions from associated AFTERTOUCH catalogs.
-
- AFTERTOUCH CATALOG BINDER
- CMC members receive a handsome binder used to store AFTERTOUCH catalogs
- and materials.
-
- AFTERTOUCH SAMPLER STORAGE CASE
- CMC members receive a storage case which organizes the AFTERTOUCH
- sampler tape library.
-
- AFTERTOUCH PURCHASE DISCOUNTS
- CMC members receive a special price list of reduced member prices for
- AFTERTOUCH tapes, CDs and videos.
-
- AFTERTOUCH VOTING RIGHTS
- With each sampler tape, CMC members receive an AFTERTOUCH voters'
- ballot. Members are invited to vote for their favorite artists and
- compositions on the sampler. These votes are used to help decide
- AFTERTOUCH artist awards.
-
- Returned ballots are collected and, at season's end, twenty are chosen
- randomly. The CMC members whose names appear on the selected ballots
- will take part in the process to decide the final awards. These twenty
- members will receive the complete library of nominated albums, utilize
- them to make their final selections, and keep the albums for their
- personal pleasure.
-
- AFTERTOUCH AWARDS SAMPLER
- CMC members receive an annual AFTERTOUCH Awards Collection sampler tape.
- This tape includes sample compositions from the winning artists' albums.
-
- AFTERTOUCH SURVEY CREDITS
- CMC members who complete and return the rating surveys supplied with
- each and every album purchased will receive one 25 cent coupon per
- survey. These coupons may be applied toward the future purchase of
- tapes and CD's from AFTERTOUCH catalogs.
-
- AFTERTOUCH GROWTH INCENTIVE
- Any CMC member who brings in additional new members may pick free one
- AFTERTOUCH album per new member.
-
- AFTERTOUCH UNCONDITIONAL GUARANTEE
- CMC members receive an unconditional guarantee that every album
- purchased must be pleasing. If for any reason an album is not
- appreciated, it may be returned for credit toward a future purchase.
-
- ARTIST MEMBERSHIP
- Open to any individual or record label who wishes to have their music
- marketed by CMC, supports the purposes of CMC and wishes to receive CMC
- publications and services. ARTIST MEMBERS RECIEVE ALL CONNOISSEUR
- MEMBER BENEFITS AND THE FOLLOWING:
-
- CMC/PAN CONNECTION
- Artist members receive a free membership in PAN -- the Performing
- Artists' Network -- usually $225. With a modem and computer, artist
- members have access to a wealth of professional musician information and
- immediate communication with CMC headquarters.
-
- AFTERTOUCH VIP SUPPORT
- Artist Members receive priority handling for music submissions. Members
- option to appear on sampler tapes and entry in the awards program.
- Artist Members are exclusively chosen to appear in the PERSONAL TOUCH
- profile column. Artist Members receive fifteen copies of the AFTERTOUCH
- volume in which their music appears.
-
- EXTENDED PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT
- Artist Members receive the opportunity to have their music promoted in
- various international AFTERTOUCH advertising campaigns and appear on
- additional promotional projects. Artist Members' music is promoted to
- radio stations and magazines for potential review and airplay. Artist
- Members receive follow-up promotion in all AFTERTOUCH volumes.
-
- DEALER MEMBERSHIP
- Open to any company that retails products or services which benefit CMC
- members, supports the purposes of CMC and wishes to receive CMC
- publications and services. CMC DEALER MEMBERS RECEIVE ALL CONNOISSEUR
- MEMBER BENEFITS AND THE FOLLOWING:
-
- DEALER VIP BENEFITS
- Dealer Members receive a free membership in PAN, twenty-five copies of
- AFTERTOUCH catalogs per volume, a listing in the AFTERTOUCH Dealer
- Directory, dicounts on AFTERTOUCH Samplers and selected albums purchased
- for resale, one free 2" ad in AFTERTOUCH, discounts on AFTERTOUCH
- advertising rates, and an invitation to participate in various
- cooperative promotional campaigns.
-
- VENDOR MEMBERSHIP
- Open to any company that makes products of offers services which benefit
- CMC members, support the purposes of CMC and wishes to receive CMC
- publications and services. CMC VENDOR MEMBERS RECEIVE ALL CONNOISSEUR
- MEMBER BENEFITS AND THE FOLLOWING:
-
- VENDOR VIP BENEFITS
- Vendor Members receive a free membership in PAN, a listing in the
- AFTERTOUCH Vendor Directory, a company profile write-up in AFTERTOUCH,
- regular informational write-ups in AFTERTOUCH which help CMC members to
- better understand the company and its products, twenty-five copies of
- AFTERTOUCH per volume, discounts on AFTERTOUCH advertising rates, and an
- invitation to participate in various cooperative promotional campaigns.
-
- CMC MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS
- In addition to the benefits stated above, CMC members receive a
- membership certificate worth framing, a CMC "MIDI Doesn't Byte" button,
- a CMC T-shirt, a survey response program wherein listeners communicate
- with artists and vice versa, a toll free phone number for placing orders
- and asking questions, the joy of participating in the musical wave of
- the future and, finally, unannounced program benefits which we are not
- at liberty to discuss currently, but will amaze and surprise.
-
- So there you have it folks! If your involved in electronic music at
- all, be it as a listener, artist, dealer, or vendor, you owe it to
- yourself to checkout CMC! If your interested, just Email me your name,
- address, and what membership type your interested in and I'll have CMC
- mail you an info. Packet and a free issue of the AFTERTOUCH catalog.
- My Email address is: S.GARRIGUS. (On GEnie)
-
-
-
- ###### ATARINET
- ###### Network Overview
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- So, you've heard about AtariNet. This is a network for any BBS that
- supports the Atari platform of home computer. There are already several
- bulletin board systems worldwide participating and more are joining. A
- listing of the current BBS's that are participating and the echos that
- are available follow:
-
- Zone 51 AtariNet Headquarters
- Region 100
- Host 1 - Twilight Zone, Longwood FL, Bill Scull
- 1-407-831-1613
-
- 4 - Steal Your Face, Brick NJ, Ed Lynch 1-908-920-7981
- 6 - MySTery BBS, Goose Creek, SC, David Blanchard 1-803-556-9730
- 8 - Alien BBS, Burlington NC, Mark Cline 1-919-229-4334
- 9 - Z*Net Golden Gate, Sunnyvale CA, Bob Brodie 1-510-373-6792
- 10 - Atari Base, Sunnyvale CA, Robert Brodie 1-408-745-2196
- 11 - Sunfox's Realm, Orlando Fl, Erik Williams 1-407-384-8138
- 13 - Z*Net News Service, Middlesex NJ, Ron Kovacs 1-908-968-8148
-
- Host 4 - Hologram Inc, Old Bridge NJ, Dean Lodzinski
- 1-908-727-1914
-
- 3 - Assasins Grove, Oshawa Canada, Jeff Mitchell 1-416-571-6965
- 4 - Aces High BBS, Matawan NJ, Richard Guadagno 1-908-290-1133
- 5 - StormShadow, Pasadena MD, Robert Lovelace 1-410-437-0243
-
- Region 200 - AtariNet Headquarters II
-
- Host 2 - AtariNet Nevada, Las Vegas NV, Terry May
- 1-702-435-0786
-
- 4 - Sports Line BBS, Henderson NV, Nick Hard 1-702-565-5271
- 5 - Left Over Hippies, Toronto Canada, Lesley Dylan 1-416-466-8931
- 10 - STarship, Lake Charles LA, Rich Tietjens 1-318-474-9432
- 11 - The Choice BBS, Las Vegas NV, Mark Woolworth 1-702-253-6527
- 12 - Thunder Hold, American Fork UT, Todd Harrington 1-801-756-2901
- 13 - Conqueror Connection, Fort Hood TX, John Curtis 1-817-539-1469
-
- Host 201 - The DarkSTar BBS, Salt Lake City UT, Randy Rodrock
- 1-801-269-8780
-
- 5 - Acme BBS, Salt Lake City UT, Eric Nikolaisen 1-801-272-4243
-
- Host 202 - The Wylie Connection, Wylie TX, Wes Newell
- 1-214-442-6612
-
- 7 - Aaron's Beard, Dallas TX, Troy Wade 1-214-557-2642
- 13 - The Wylie Connection, Wylie TX, Wes Newell 1-214-442-6612
- 20 - Outland Station, Ft Worth TX, John Stiborek 1-817-329-1125
- 21 - Psychlo Empire, Irving TX, Mark Corona 1-214-251-1175
-
- Host 203 - AtariNet Midwest, Indianapolis IN, Bill Jones
- 1-317-356-5519
-
- 1 - The Zoo BBS, Indianapolis IN, Bill Jones 1-317-356-5519
- 2 - The Music Station, Webb City MO, Chris Richards 1-417-673-4926
- 3 - The Maligned ST, Urbandale IA, Mike O'Malley 1-515-253-9530
- 4 - The Crawly Crypt, Joplin MO, Jim Collins 1-417-624-1887
-
- Region 300 - AtariNet Headquarters_III
- Host 3 - The Space Station, Canyon Country CA, Tony Castorino
- 1-805-252-0450
-
- 3 - Atari ST Connection, Fresno CA, Brian Watters 1-209-436-8156
- 4 - Autoboss Atari Elite, Bunola PA, John Graham 1-412-384-5608
- 5 - The Yakima Atari ST BBS, Yakima WA, Pat Moffitt 1-509-965-2345
- 6 - FIDOdoor Support BBS, Vandenberg AFB, Bryan Hall 1-805-734-4742
- 7 - cyberSecT BBS, Cheney WA, Chuck Aude 1-509-235-4875
- 9 - The Mosh Bit, Vancouver WA, Mark Wallaert 1-206-574-1531
- 10 - Target Range, Paramount CA, Alan Dietrich 1-310-634-8993
- 11 - Sanctuary From The Law, Inyokern CA, Sean Price 1-619-377-3611
- 12 - MASATEK, Torrance CA, Valeriano Meneses 1-310-518-9524
- 13 - The Mind Keep, Citrus Heights CA, Jeff Fehlman 1-916-723-1657
- 14 - Callahan's Place, Ashford WA, Brian Lane 1-206-569-2911
- 15 - ST-Keep, Citrus Heights CA, Andrew Studer 1-916-729-2968
- 16 - H.B. SMOG, Huntington Beach CA, Jim Thingwold 1-714-969-5486
- 17 - Acey BBS, Yakima WA, Dick Grable 1-509-966-8555
-
- Region 400 - AtariNet Headquarters IV
- Host 5 - The Brewery, Ajax ON Canada, Don Liscombe
- 1-416-683-3089
-
- 3 - Rather Digital, Sudbury ON Canada, Steve Barnes 1-705-560-3115
-
- Region 500 - AtariNet UK
- Host 6 - AtariNet NW England, Stockport Cheshire UK, Daron Brewood
- 44-61-429-9803
-
- 2 - STun NeST Central, Stockport Cheshire UK 44-61-429-9803
- 3 - DigiBBS, Nykobing F Denmark, Flemming Nielsen 45-54-858385
-
- Region 600 - AtariNet Headquarters VI
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- SUPPORT: WHERE TO FIND IT
- -------------------------
- -=> In the "Hardware" category (4)
- -=> from the "Straight FAX! and Joppa FAX/Modems!" topic (24)
-
- Message 93 Sun Dec 06, 1992
- C.S.SMETON [Charles S.] at 21:37 EST
-
- The price of FAX Modems changes very frequently due to the rapidly
- changing marketplace. Atari users have benefitted from the fact that
- there is a lot of competition from many modem vendors; this results in
- lower prices and a quicker pace of technological advancement. The
- result is that it is possible to buy a 14,400 bps V.32bis FAX/Data Modem
- for less than the price of a 9600 bps data-only modem was just a year
- ago.
-
- Many users feel that they have been ripped off or are now stuck with
- obsolete equipment when this happens. Unfortunately, this is the way
- the computer world operates. There is little anyone in the Atari market
- can do to change this. There are several things an consumer can do to
- minimize being "stuck" with a product that is about to become obsolete
- or have its invested value be sharply reduced.
-
- 1. Stay informed. GEnie and the other online services and BBS networks
- are a good place to start. I am sure other GEnie users can point
- you in the proper direction.
-
- 2. Read the various magazines (print and on-line) and stay aware of the
- changing marketplace, product reviews, product announcements, and
- ads. I would suggest reading non-Atari specific magazines such as
- Byte or Computer Shopper, as they keep up on the trends for non-
- platform specific items such as printers, modems, disk drives,
- memory, monitors, etc.
-
- 3. Join a user group if one is available in your area.
-
- 4. Call the manufacturers of products and request information. For
- instance, all GEnie subscribers receive the GEnie magazine in the
- mail. Supra has been running ads for several months that have
- stated that their modems will be upgradable to support new features
- such as Caller ID, Silent Answer and Voice Mail. The first two are
- now available options. This is one way to avoid buying an obsolete
- product, i.e. buy one that advertizes upgradability. This is the
- primary theme that Intel has been advertizing with their "Vacancy
- Inside" ads that indicate that a PC can be upgraded with their new
- clock doubler processors.
-
- Joppa Software Development
- ========================================
-
-
- REPAIRS: WHERE TO GET 'EM
- -------------------------
- -=> In the "Atari Corporation Online" category (14)
- -=> from the "Mega STE" topic (14)
-
- Message 115 Fri Dec 04, 1992
- J.PIERCE5 [Rob] at 22:36 EST
-
- Now we have another problem, though. As I've been posting in the Atari
- Service topic, I can find NO authorized service center that will service
- the machine under warranty. They say that Atari has stopped reimbursing
- them for repairs, so they no longer do warranty service. So I'm
- screwed.
-
- Rob
- ----------
- Message 119 Sun Dec 06, 1992
- M.DRYSDALE [Drys] at 07:18 EST
-
- Rob, I have not tried this......I'm not sure it will work.....
-
- Send your dysfuncional ST to either Sheldon (Computer Studio) Winick (I
- just volunteered you) or to me (I volunteered too). We can try to send
- it back to Atari for warranty exchange. All you'll be out is the
- shipping and the machine for several weeks.
-
- OR
-
- You might send E-Mail to BOB-BRODIE (yet another volunteer<g>)
- describing _in detail_ your problem and politely requesting a warranty
- exchange direct to Atari or through a dealer.
-
- Important info Atari will need at some point: Serial number, sales
- receipt (charge card is best) for proof of purchase date, any shipping
- addresses on the original box, and all accessories.
-
- Mike, TEAM COMPUTERS now POWER Computers
- ========================================
-
-
- JUST WHAT -IS- THE KODAK PHOTO CD SYSTEM?
- -----------------------------------------
- -=> In the "Graphics" category (7)
- -=> from the "Kodak Photo CD Access System" topic (9)
-
- Message 86 Sat Dec 05, 1992
- EXPLORER.5 [Robert Goff] at 17:21 EST
-
- Forgive me if this question has been asked before, but I'm confused.
-
- Just what _is_ the Kodak Photo CD system? Do you have to buy hardware
- or software, or just the CD?
-
- How do the photos get on the CD? Do you have to buy a special camera and
- hook it to a special CD deck?
-
- How do you display the photos? Can a regular CD deck hook up to a
- television, or do you have to buy some more hardware?
-
- Thanks for any light you can shed.
- ----------
- Message 88 Sat Dec 05, 1992
- EXPLORER.1 [ Ron ] at 23:33 EST
-
- Bob, Stop by most any camera store to see PhotoCD. Quality and
- resolution is excellent, even in 256 color VGA.
-
- The process involves taking your negatives to your film processor and
- asking to have them transfered to PhotoCD (about $15 for 24 photos). A
- few days later, you get a CD back with your digitized photographs. The
- CD can then be played on a video disk player capable of displaying
- PhotoCD format. Consumer players list in the $500 range but I have
- already seen them advertised for under $350.
- ----------
- Message 90 Sun Dec 06, 1992
- GREG at 00:52 EST
-
- EXPLORER.5 (Bob): Photo CD is a storage system for negatives or slides
- that are scanned by Kodak onto a CD-ROM disc. You can take either an
- undeveloped roll of film, loose negatives or slides into any of several
- thousand locations across the country and get them scanned onto a CD-ROM
- disc. Best Buy and a lot of corner drug stores are also doing the
- scanning now through Kodalux.
-
- After creating the disc, Photo CD can be many things:
-
- 1. The disc can be "played" on any Kodak CD rom player using your home
- television for viewing.
-
- 2. The disc can be put into any CD-I player and viewed.
-
- 3. The disc can be put into an XA-capable CD -ROM player connected to a
- home computer or workstation.
-
- With options 1 and 2, the software for viewing is already in the machine
- or on the disc.
-
- With option 3, you will need software to access the data on the disc and
- convert it to a form viewable on your system. Software is currently
- available for the Mac and PC Windows environment. Software will be
- released in the coming months for viewing and editing on the Falcon.
- The photos can also be viewed on the ST and STe, but suffer from the
- color and pixel resolutions of the machines (See FOUNTAIN.LZH in the
- libraries here). The graphics are still impressive.
-
- If you would like to see what true color looks like using the Photo CD
- process, the new Hot Stuff II CD by Screen Artists has examples of Photo
- CD converted to 16 million color Targa format. Even at 512 by 768 pixel
- resolution, the Targa or TIF files are still over 1 meg in size, and
- this is still only one-fourth of the available resolution.
-
- If there's interest in a download this size, we can upload an example to
- the libraries here.
-
- A Photo-CD disc can travel across platforms as it uses what is called
- the 9660 standard for file storage. In fact, there is a series of stock
- photos being released on a "rights-free" use basis that will include
- software for viewing on Photo-CD, CD-I, Mac, Windows 3.1, and Multimedia
- Windows right on the disc. Atari support for this series in also being
- planned, but was held up due to lack of development hardware and a
- license snag.
-
- The BIG advantage of Photo CD is that your picture data is stored in a
- format better than most systems can currently use. In other words, the
- next generation of computers will be catching up with Photo CD
- technology rather than passing it up. The photos are stored at 3072 by
- 2048 pixels in 16 million colors. The actual uncompressed file size is
- over 18 megs per picture. Your software only chews enough off the disc
- to match the capabilities of your system.
-
- I hope this made Photo CD a little clearer for you.
- ----------
- Message 92 Sun Dec 06, 1992
- POTECHIN [Nathan @ DMC] at 14:21 EST
-
- Atari already has working software for the Kodak Photo CD technology.
- It is done and working and beautiful! ;-) It was shown at Comdex on a
- couple of Falcons AND on a TT.
-
- Greg, before you send Atari people off to view a Mac solution ;-), you
- need to see Calamus SL, using a 24 bit color card, on a decent monitor
- of your choice. The Kodak Photo CD import driver works beautifully! By
- the way, if you have Calamus SL, I have a brand new beta driver for the
- HP550C you might want to check out.
- ========================================
-
-
- "YOU'RE A REAL COMPUTER GENIUS, RIGHT?"
- ---------------------------------------
- (Jerry Pournelle RT)
- -=> In the "Computer Science" category (4)
- -=> from the "Atari TT030" topic (15)
-
- Message 109 Thu Dec 03, 1992
- C.WORTON at 22:53 EST
-
- Had an interesting phone call the other day. "Charlie, you're a whiz at
- computers, right?"
-
- "Well, I know some. What did you need?"
-
- "Here, talk to my friend." (Friend comes on line.)
-
- "Hi, Charlie! You're a real computer genius, right?"
-
- "Not really. What did you need?"
-
- "Well, I just bought this computer, and I need to get into it."
-
- "What do you mean, 'get into' it?"
-
- "You know... make it 'do' something."
-
- (sigh) "What brand of machine is it?"
-
- "Uh... just a moment... oh, here. It's a Samsung."
-
- "Are you reading that off the monitor casing?"
-
- "Yes."
-
- "What's the label on the computer casing?"
-
- "Ummm.... Hyundai."
-
- "Okay. What you have is a generic computer that runs an operating
- system called DOS. In order to use DOS, you need to know the
- abbreviations of the commands. You also need to know the correct order
- of input; if you mistype the command, or type the command correctly, but
- put it in the wrong place, you will receive an error response. I do not
- know the DOS commands; I tend to work with computers that use a
- graphical user interface, such as Atari, Amiga, or Macintosh."
-
- "Well, I don't want one of those toy computers. I want a real one."
-
- (sigh) "What programs came with the computer?"
-
- "I don't know."
-
- "You don't KNOW? Didn't your salesman tell you?"
-
- "Well, I bought it at a pawnshop."
-
- "You bought it at a... Listen, how much did you pay for this?"
-
- "Hey, I got a really good deal. Only a thousand, for everything."
-
- "Okay. I can't help you. Call the people at Softwarehouse; perhaps
- they'll guide you through it over the phone."
-
- "I already called them. They said to bring it down, and they'd set it
- up for $65."
-
- "Do it. Pay it. Get their opinion on the deal you made. Let them show
- you other machines in a similar price range. They also sell Macs; look
- at a Mac."
-
- "Okay. Do you think I got a good deal?"
-
- "I don't know what microprocessor you got, I don't know what graphics
- card you got, I don't know what monitor you got, I don't even know if
- your hard disk is functional. But considering what you paid, and where
- you purchased it, I think you spent roughly a thousand more then you
- should have. There's a REASON it was in a pawnshop. And while you're
- thinking about that, think about what you want to use a computer FOR.
- To this point, you haven't been able to achieve anything with the
- machine, have you?"
-
- "Well, no."
-
- "DOS was designed to be used by data processing professionals. It was
- never intended to be used by the general public, who often express
- difficulty in running their microwave or programming their VCR. I would
- suggest you go down to Softwarehouse, let the salesperson show you some
- of the things that computers can do, and the two of you arrive at a
- decision as to what you want to purchase. Then, purchase it. Do NOT
- purchase a machine on the basis of its looks; buy it for what it can do
- for you."
-
- "What kind do you use?"
-
- "I own an Atari ST. The Atari is, with the Amiga, one of the finest
- machines on the planet. Unfortunately, there are no longer any dealers
- for the machines in this city. Until that changes, it's pretty hard for
- me to recommend them to someone who will need guidance. I would suggest
- that you consider either the Macintosh line of computers, or a 486/33
- DOS box running Windows 3.1. And I would further suggest that you deal
- with a computer professional, not with a discount dealer. A
- professional can save you more then he or she will cost you."
-
- There was more, but you get the drift. I cannot fathom why people
- purchase a machine that they cannot use, but they do... in droves. I
- think I need some psychologist to explain it to me. It can't be just
- marketing; it has to be some deep seated desire to be frustrated that is
- operating here.
-
- Regards,
- Charlie
- ----------
- Category 4, Topic 15
- Message 112 Fri Dec 04, 1992
- SLP at 19:49 EST
-
- Charlie, my favorite story about the PC was told to me by an Atari
- dealer (when there used to be one in town). He also sold software for
- the C-64, Amiga, Apple, and IBM.
-
- Anyway, one evening a frantic customer called him up and told him that
- his (DOS) computer was broken. All he could get on the screen was a
- letter C and a greater than sign.
-
- This guy had been using the computer for 2 years and had never even seen
- a DOS prompt. Apparently whoever sold him the computer had installed a
- menu system that allowed him to pick which program he wanted to run. I
- have the feeling that thousands of users are the same way.
-
- Scott
- ========================================
-
-
- ###### OPEN LETTER TO ATARI USERS
- ###### By Nathan Potechin
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- An Open Letter to Atari Users
- Regarding the STReport Editorial about Comdex 92
-
- Nathan Potechin,
- DMC Publishing,
- Toronto, Canada.
- Dec. 1, 1992.
-
- Dear Atari Users:
-
- I received a telephone call today from Mr. Mariano. He and his staff
- have made it clear that they will not discuss last week's STreport
- editorial "From the Editor's Desk" "Saying it like it is!" in Category
- 18. As most of you are aware, Category 18 was set up specifically to
- discuss Rumours, Flames and controversial issues. Since I felt that
- last week's Editorial was controversial - indeed, disgraceful and
- personally repugnant - I started a new topic in order to have a place
- for us to attempt to discern reality from the smoke and mirrors for
- which STReport is justly infamous.
-
- Sadly, Mr. Mariano and staff have chosen to refuse to respond. Senior
- Editor Lloyd Pulley even went so far as to say they they would only
- respond to "the public" implying that I don't count, that I have nothing
- to contribute and that I have nothing to say. Well, I have a thing or
- two to say alright and I thank you in advance for listening.
-
- It is a rare occasion when anyone dares confront the STReport
- juggernaut. Most of us simply do not have the hours in the day. As a
- result, they get away with far too much of what I'd consider
- inappropriate behaviour. When someone such as myself (let's use myself
- as an example) ;-) dares respond to anything in STReport that might be
- considered CRITICISM, I get attacked, my credibility gets attacked, my
- judgment gets attacked, my impartiality gets attacked, my wife gets
- attacked, the Atari RT's on GEnie get attacked, of course Atari gets
- attacked in passing (STReport never misses an opportunity as we all
- know) :-) my friends get attacked and everyone else associated with me
- gets attacked - especially if they dare to speak out as well.
-
- All that is a given. In spite of that, a few brave souls manage to
- offer a CONCRETE FACT every now and then, a small glimmer of the TRUTH
- sparkles briefly and then, just sometimes, some JUSTICE prevails. I'd
- like to believe that bringing that small particle of TRUTH to light
- makes all this worthwhile.
-
- Since Mr. Mariano has refused to post in Category 18 (not that he is
- posting much in Category 24 either) and Lloyd, as predictable as
- gravity, is doing everything BUT address the issue, please allow me the
- opportunity to discuss last week's editorial and explain EXACTLY why I
- took umbrage with it. I wish to remove any possibility of confusion
- once and for all.
-
- Remember, this is a response to STReport. I am replying to last weeks
- editorial, much of which specifically contradicted posts that I publicly
- made in the BB during Comdex.
-
- In his editorial Mr. Mariano said:
-
- Here we are a week or so after Comdex and what do we find going on?
- People are still discussing the pros and cons of Atari's performance at
- Comdex. Odd... don't you think? When all one need do is use one's
- eyes. After all, seeing is believing. There is strange word, (believe)
- right in the middle of the word is a (lie)! More smoke and mirrors?
- Maybe.
-
- And I respond, just as if he had posted in the Bulletin Board rather
- than from the comfort of his STReport bastion:
-
- I was there. I used my eyes. I posted what I saw.
-
- Am I to conclude that Mr. Mariano was calling me a liar? Doubtful. I
- believe instead that Mr. Mariano was portraying Atari in the worst
- possible light as has been the policy of STReport for years already,
- regardless of the FACTS. The play on the word LIE was juvenile.
-
- Mr. Mariano continued:
-
- Atari's performance at Comdex is indicative of the times. They've
- managed to disappoint the users and dealers every year since 1987 in
- regards to big Christmas Sales seasons. Yet we see no-one trying to
- make excuses for this obvious marketing blunder.
-
- And I respond:
-
- No way I defend the past performance of Atari Corp. in terms of
- Marketing or Advertising in North America these past few years. They
- have, sadly, not made it easy to be an Atari Dealer or an Atari
- Developer.
-
- Mr. Mariano went on to say:
-
- Then why, in retrospect, do we find really decent people in the Atari
- platform try like crazy to "explain away" the rather sedate 'action' at
- Atari's booth this year?
-
- And I respond:
-
- I can only assume that I am one of the people to which Mr. Mariano
- refers. The "sedate action" in the Atari booth actually had very little
- to do with Atari themselves. No one tried "like crazy" to explain away
- anything.
-
- I did make some FACTS known in my posts based on my own experience at
- Comdex these past years. I will share them with you again:
-
- The Interface Group are the Show Organizers for Comdex. Coincidently,
- they also OWN the Sands Expo Center. They built it. It was clearly
- their intention to establish a rival to the main Las Vegas Convention
- Center. This is the third year it has been in operation. After this
- year it became obvious that they had, to date, FAILED in their
- endeavour.
-
- The first year, Atari had a great booth in a great location but there
- were really no big names or big draws present, besides themselves :-)
- The second year there were a few more NAMES and DRAWS but still the
- traffic in this hall remained light. Remember, this was not supposed to
- be a satellite hall but a second main hall. It is rather large and I
- was told by one of the Interface Group representitives that they are
- adding on to it.
-
- This third year in operation they convinced a great many name brand
- companies of worldwide reknown to exhibit in the Sands. I have
- mentioned a few names in other posts here. I'll type in a complete list
- if someone wants to read a who's who. The point is, the traffic should
- have been there this year. It was not! Based on the best information
- available to Atari last year, when they had to book the space, this year
- should have seen serious action in the Sands to rival the LVCC. Again
- it did not.
-
- So Atari made the decision last week to exhibit in the main hall next
- year. They have given up their large prime location and gone for the
- guaranteed action instead of the potential action. I am personally and
- professionally pleased with that decision. I wish hindsight could have
- worked a year ago. Welcome to real life. :-) The Interface Group has a
- very real problem on their hands now. They have a great many upset
- exhibitors. When the LVCC sees upwards of 135,000 people and about
- 20,000 come through the Sands the entire week, (or some such nonsense)
- you have to know there is a problem. :-) In my opinion, there simply
- aren't enough hours in the entire week for a potential attendee to cover
- it all so they tend to concentrate their time in the LVCC and that's
- that! No smoke, no mirrors, just some FACTS.
-
- But Mr. Mariano plowed onwards, digging himself a hole:
-
- Granted there may have been a few thousand flyers and brochures handed
- out, but in the busiest of years this was never looked upon as a solid
- 'rule of thumb' when gauging booth attendance. Why all of a sudden do
- we see all sorts of reaching going on to justify the quiet booth.
-
- And I respond:
-
- I publicly posted, in the Comdex topic set up specifically for that
- purpose, that to my delight, we went through all the brochures we had
- brought to Comdex. This was a first for us. I usually have to ship
- some back or better yet, pass them along to a Dealer that can use them
- in a mailout or handout to potential customers. I also understood that
- Atari used up all of their Atari Falcon 030 brochures as well.
-
- Speaking for DMC and Calamus SL, I remind Mr. Mariano that the booth was
- not as busy as we would have liked. :-) Since he has pointed this out
- so adamantly, I wonder why it never occured to him that this meant that
- we had the opportunity to spend one-on-one quality time with those that
- did make it over to the Sands. That is exactly what we did.
-
- Seeing the Kodak Photo CD import driver working in Calamus SL, using the
- 24 bit Cybercube Cyrel card to display on the 21" hi-res Mitsubishi
- monitor is very impressive indeed. We had good, solid questions from
- serious and interested people that were not aware that Atari had
- anything of this calibre. (Where have we heard this before.) :-) In
- other words, DMC took full advantage of every bit of traffic that came
- into the Sands and through the booth and as usual - we opened some eyes!
-
- I made NO attempt to justify the action in the booth except to make it
- clear that the light traffic was prevalent throughout the Sands. I did
- point out that we went through all those brochures, in fact running out
- on Thursday, and that they went to people that took the time to look and
- appreciate what they saw. So, in this particular case, the brochures
- were indeed an excellent gauge of the action in the booth.
-
- Mr. Mariano went on, digging deeper and deeper:
-
- Biggest question of all, why are there people ever so busy trying to
- tell the userbase that what was seen was _not_ really what they saw?
- Sound ridiculous? Sure it does but that's exactly what is going on!
-
- And I respond:
-
- I beg your pardon? I, for one, told the userbase, my friends, my
- customers and my associates, exactly what I saw. You were not in
- attendance Mr. Mariano. With all due respect, and I mean that
- sincerely, :-), the above paragraph is absolute nonsense!
-
- Then Mr. Mariano threw out some more dirt:
-
- Of course, there will always be the buck passing... since 1987, its
- never been Atari's fault or the fault of the decision makers at Atari
- for the dregs they've placed themselves in... This year we are being
- told it was the Interface Group's fault (they organize and manage
- Comdex). In particular, the dismal performance at the Atari booth is
- being blamed on the manner in which the Sands expo center was managed.
- Right... why is it through the years, its _never_ been acknowledged it
- could've been the fault of poor management decisions etc..
-
- Take a few of the glaring incidents in the past for example.. The
- Federated Fiasco, Federated's fault - The ATW failure, "not our design"
- etc.. - Upgraded Portfolio design, not our design etc..- Notebook, Pen
- and Stacy... all accounting for huge sums of money gone south. Yet
- none of these things or incidents have ever been attributed to or even
- hinted at being the responsibility of Atari or its management or lack of
- it.
-
- Nope, in the broadest of terms everybody and his brother has been blamed
- but never once was the real responsibility ever fixed where it really
- belongs.
-
- And I respond:
-
- I have already addressed the facts surrounding the Sands Expo Center.
- They are clear and obvious. Atari is certainly responsible for not
- being called Microsoft. I cannot argue that at all. Yup, you're right.
- If they would have only been named Microsoft, they could have exhibited
- in Reno and still gotten the traffic. The point is, they made mistakes.
- I do not defend them. They did make mistakes. That's a fact. I've
- made them too. I hope I learned from mine. :-) Now can we get on with
- our lives?
-
- And Mr. Mariano finally concluded from his hole deep in the ground:
-
- Now we are told that "Jack is back". To that I say I've been told that
- a number of times in the past and still.... no real improvement. A
- typical strong example of strange executive reaction was the statement
- made by Sam Tramiel about the Forbes Article. A laugh? A joke? It was
- sad to see that article hit, even for me. Atari has always had a
- dynamite machine design but alas, its management team well.. that's
- another story. Now that Comdex is behind us, let's see how long it
- takes for the damage control smoothies to get started in trying to
- convince all of us that what we saw really wasn't what we saw at all.
-
- Ralph @ STReport International Online Magazine
-
-
- And I responded one last time:
-
- Mr. Mariano, Jack is BACK! That's a fact. Atari has always had
- dynamite machines and that's the truth too. Sam is President. Garry
- runs North America and seems quite capable. Leonard is currently
- betwixt and between but certain to appear in some challenging role in
- the near future. A new head of TOS has been appointed in Sunnyvale and
- one of these days, if we are real lucky, the Falcon will actually appear
- on these shores. Isn't life grand. :-)
-
- As a "struggling" Atari Developer, not supported by mail order sales
- based on free advertising in an online magazine, I have earned the right
- to be as pessimistic or as optimistic as I choose. I choose to be an
- optimist because I love my Atari running Calamus SL and I'll stack it up
- against anything!!
-
- Sincerely
- Nathan Potechin
- President of DMC Publishing, Inc.
- Member of the Independant Association of Atari Developers
-
- ps; I held this letter, waiting to see what would happen in the next
- STReport because Lou Rocha dared post publicly in Cat 24 accusing
- STReport of much of what you read above. Typically and predictably, Mr.
- Mariano did not post at all while Lloyd did his absolute best smoke and
- mirror act on Lou and then both Ralph and Lloyd attacked Lou in this
- weeks issue of STReport. This nonsense must stop. This is a travesty
- and I, for one, have had enough.
-
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-
- ###### THE Z*NET COMPUTER CALENDAR 1992-1993
- ###### Schedule of Shows, Events and Online Conferences
- ###### ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- ### December 20, 1992
- Eugene, Oregon. Atari SWAP MEET planned at the GATEWAY MALL MEETING
- PLACE. The hours have not been finalized yet but tentively they will be
- 10am - 5pm. There may be a small admission fee this year (no more than
- $1.00) and there may be a table fee.
-
-
- ### December 24-25, 1992
- Christmas 1992! Spend time with your loved ones! Hope you bought an
- Atari product for your favorite person!
-
-
- ### December 31/January 1,1993
- New Years Eve, New Years Day! Happy New Year! Make those resolutions
- stick this time around!
-
-
- ### January 6-9, 1993
- MacWorld Expo in San Fransisco California, Sponsored by MacWorld
- Magazine. Titled San Fransisco '93 at the Moscone Center.
-
-
- ### January 12-14, 1993
- Networld '93 in Boston, Massachusettes
-
-
- ### January 7-10, 1993
- The Winter Consumer Electronics Show comes to Las Vegas, Nevada. CES is
- an electronic playground, with everything in the way of high tech toys
- for kids and adults. Game consoles and hand-held entertainment items
- like the Atari Lynx are big here, and Atari will attend with a hotel
- suite showroom. Contact Atari Corp for more information on seeing their
- display at 408-745-2000.
-
-
- ### January 15-18, 1993
- NAMM is the largest conclave of musicians each year. Held in Los
- Angeles at the Anaheim Convention Center, the variety of sights at the
- National Association of Music Merchandisers is wilder than at
- Disneyland, just next door. Atari was the first computer manufacturer
- to ever display at NAMM in 1987, and has become a standard at the shows.
- A trade show for music stores, distributors, and professionals of every
- strata, entertainers are seen everywhere at NAMM. Contact James Grunke
- at Atari Corp for more information at 408-745-2000.
-
-
- ### February 2-4, 1993
- ComNet '93 in Washington, DC.
-
-
- ### March 1993
- CeBIT, the world's largest computer show with 5,000 exhibitors in 20
- halls, is held annually in Hannover, Germany. Atari traditionally
- struts its newest wares there, usually before it's seen in the USA or
- anywhere else. In '93, the Atari 040 machines should be premiering, and
- this is the likely venue. Third party developers also use this show to
- introduce new hardware and software, so expect a wave of news from CeBIT
- every year. Atari Corp and the IAAD coordinate cross-oceanic contacts
- to promote worldwide marketing of Atari products, and this show is an
- annual touchstone of that effort. Contact Bill Rehbock at Atari Corp
- for information at 408-745-2000.
-
-
- ### March 13-14, 1993
- The Sacramento Atari Computer Exposition is to be sponsored by the
- Sacramento Atari ST Users Group (SST) at the Towe Ford Museum in
- Sacramento, California. This show replaces the earlier scheduled, then
- cancelled Northern California Atari Fest for the Bay Area, to have been
- held in December 1992. A major two day effort, the SAC show is being
- held in the special events area of the Towe Ford Museum, home of the
- worlds most complete antique Ford automobile collection. As an added
- bonus, admission to the museum is free when you attend the Expo. The
- museum is located at the intersection of Interstates 5 and 80, just 15
- minutes from the Sacramento Metropolitan Airport. Contact Nick Langdon
- (Vendor Coordinator) C/O SST, P.O. Box 214892, Sacramento, CA 95821-
- 0892, phone 916-723-6425, GEnie: M.WARNER8, ST-Keep BBS (SST) 916-729-
- 2968.
-
-
- ### March 21-24, 1993
- Interop Spring '93 in Washington DC.
-
-
- ### August 3-6, 1993
- MacWorld Expo at the Boston World Trade Center, Bayside Exposition
- Center and sponsored by MacWorld Magazine. This event is titled Boston
- '93.
-
-
- ### September 18-19, 1993
- The Glendale Show returns with the Southern California Atari Computer
- Faire, V.7.0, in suburban Los Angeles, California. This has been the
- year's largest domestic Atari event, year after year. Contact John King
- Tarpinian at the user group HACKS at 818-246-7286 for information.
-
-
- ### September 20-22, 1993
- The third MacWorld Expo, titled Canada '93 at the Metro Toronto
- Convention Centre, sponsored by MacWorld Magazine.
-
-
- ### September 21-23, 1993
- Unix Expo '93 in New York City, New York.
-
-
- If you have an event you would like to include on the Z*Net Calender,
- please send email vai GEnie to Z-NET, CompuServe 75300,1642, or via
- FNET to node 593 or AtariNet node 51:1/13.0
-
-
-
- ###### THE UNABASHED ATARIOPHILE
- ###### By Michael R. Burkley
- ###### ---------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
- Some people collect sports cards, others coins, old tools, cars,
- animals, you name it someone probably collects it. What do I collect?
- I collect ST's! I have five ST's (including one four Meg STe) which are
- distributed among my family, myself, and my church. I also have five
- single-sided drives, four double-sided drives, one 44 Meg SyQuest
- cartridge drive (It's WONDERFUL), three color monitors (not counting the
- broken one in the attic), an Ominmon Rainbow multisync monitor, and one
- monochrome monitor. Oh yes, I also have a modem, a DVT video tape Hard
- Drive backup system, a zillion floppies scattered all over my computer
- room, and an understanding wife (and while I don't own her she's the
- best of all!).
-
- What do I do with all of that equipment? I use it, each and every bit
- of it (though sometimes not often enough, but the story of my trashed
- hard drive will have to wait until another time, perhaps next week). I
- use my ST's to learn about the world, to have a lot of fun, to do _A
- LOT_ of work, to meet many people, and to make new friends.
-
- One of those people I've met through my ST is David Becker. David is
- one of those amazing people who have all sorts of creative ideas AND the
- skills and perseverance needed to bring those ideas to fruition. I've
- seen at least thirty of his programs and files and I've been constantly
- amazed and the quality, the originality, and the usefulness of them all.
- He brings a certain zest to his programming that carries over to the
- users of his programs. He makes them easy and fun to use.
-
- CONNECT is Connections v. 1.0 by David Becker. Linking text, graphics,
- ------- animation and sound within interactive multimedia presentations
- is not a new idea. Hypercard on the Macintosh has been doing it for
- years. Many commercial programs exist for the PC as well. It's been
- around in some form or another for the ST for quite some time as well.
- TCOS by Matthew P. Aubury and HyperScreen by R.J. Pearson both allow
- text and graphics to be combined in a linked environment. HyperLink by
- JMG Software is a much more intensive and capable commercial database
- that allows you to mix text, graphics, animations, and data all in one
- seamless database. Now David has created his own interactive multi-
- media presentation software that allows you to easily create your own
- "families" of information that link graphics, text files, sounds, and
- animation. He has designed it so you can pass on your information in an
- interactive, informative, educational, entertaining, and fun way. He
- provides you with all the tools you need to create your own multimedia
- masterpiece. I really like this program, and recommend it to you
- highly. Detailed docs and tutorial included. It requires at least one
- Meg of RAM, a monochrome monitor (or a color monitor with a mono
- emulator--see below), and a hard drive.
-
- TREK_FAM is a Star Trek multimedia presentation by David Becker for use
- -------- with his Connections program. This detailed family contains
- much detailed information on both the original and the Next Generation
- Star Trek series: A Star Trek time-line based on official sources
- (beginning c. 2 million years ago), a descriptive listing with titles
- and dates for each episode in both series, and pictures of most of the
- major characters are included. Digitized sounds and two animations of
- the new Enterprise in Warp and under Impulse power are also available.
- Do you know who the actor behind the voice of the computer is? The same
- person who played "Nurse Chapel" in the original series, Majel Barrett!
- There's lots more where that came from!
-
- SITKA_1 is another "Creation Family" by Wally for use with Connections.
- ------- This one takes you on a brief excursion through Sitka, AK, and
- some of the activities and scenery available around there. You even get
- to see what Wally looks like! This family includes text and graphics,
- but no sound files.
-
- ZOOPHONE is "Let's Phone the Zoo" by David Becker. This interactive
- -------- storybook for kids is another neat Connections family. It
- presents a short story about a little girl phoning the animals at the
- zoo. Kids (or adults!) can click on words and sentences and discover
- digitized sounds, animations and graphics. It's fun!
-
- MISSING is another Connection family that is not so much fun to use.
- ------- David has created this listing of missing children throughout
- the United States and Canada. It presents you with forty unsolved
- cases. Photos of the children (and some of the abductors) are show
- right on-screen, with some of the children's pictures having been age-
- enhanced. A scrollable text file explains each case. This fully
- interactive presentation shows you maps, contacts and much more in a
- point and click environment. Thank you David for caring enough to do
- something like this!
-
- What else has he done with his "free time?" LOTS...
-
- dbWRITER v.1.8 is his excellent and very full-featured word processing
- -------------- program for your mono ST. It uses a fast custom graphic
- user interface that closely resembles GEM. It will run on any ST (while
- it works with a .5 meg machine it works best with one meg of RAM or
- more). It includes a clipboard that allows multiple entries! Keyboard
- and mouse controlled. It allows you to import various commercial
- wordprocessing files automatically! This program and its accompanying
- dictionary file (DBW_DICT, and DBWACC) and Thesaurus are well worth
- getting! It's amazing that something like this is free! If you have a
- mono monitor, I recommend this. Docs included.
-
- DBWACC is the dbWRITER Dictionary and Thesaurus Desk Accessory (or .PRG)
- ------ v.1.0 by David Becker. This .ACC will allow you to: * Search
- the 40,000 word dbWRITER dictionary from within any GEM application.
- * Access the dbWRITER 30,000 word thesaurus from within any GEM program.
- * Many different search and seek options including a recursive thesaurus
- * Scroll through the dictionary page by page.
- * Print out text from the dictionary or the thesaurus.
- * Load and use custom supplemental dictionaries. It contains a built-in
- help function and written docs. Mono only, Hard disk required. Use
- with version 1.8 of his dbWRITER word processor.
-
- DBWSUPP is a set of supplemental dictionary files for use with the
- ------- dbWRITER .ACC/.PRG (see DBWACC). It also contains the utility
- needed to create your own supplemental dictionaries (plus docs).
- Included in this archive are the following dictionaries:
- MEDICAL medical dictionary
- PHARMACAL pharmaceutical dictionary
- LEGAL legal dictionary
- BIBLICAL biblical words and names
- COMPUTER names,terms and words used in the computing field
- NAMES all sorts of different names, boys and girls
- MATH mathematical dictionary
- You can add to these using your favorite word processor. Mono only.
-
- DBWTHESS is the Thesaurus files for use with the dbWRITER dictionary and
- -------- Thesaurus .ACC/.PRG (see DBWACC) and dbWRITER v.1.8 and above
- (see DBWRTR18) and text processor (version 1.8 of the text processor and
- up). Having a Thesaurus is great (do you know that the word "Thesaurus"
- is a Greek word meaning "Treasure"? Words _are_ a treasure to use
- wisely!).
-
- SEARCHME is Search Me, a puzzle generator that creates word searches
- -------- just like the ones in the newspaper! You can use the dbWRITER
- dictionary (see this above), the dictionary included in this file (a
- very down-sized version of the dbWriter dictionary), your own custom
- dictionary, or your own list of words. You can save and load puzzles to
- disk, print them out, save them as DEGAS pictures or play them right on
- the ST! You will need a monochrome monitor. Word length can be from 2
- to 15 letters with up to 50 words per puzzle allowed. GEM based, this
- program is very easy to use. Docs included.
-
- COYOTE is Coyote Dave's Poker v.1.0. It's a great game. Sit down with
- ------ this program and you'll find yourself grabbing a chair, choosing
- a table in the saloon and sitting down for some five card draw poker.
- You'll have a chance to play against some of the most treacherous,
- conniving and smoothest characters north of the Rio Grande! I'm not
- talking about two dimensional computer simulations! These are real
- folks, just like your irritating neighbor across the street. So pour
- yourself a drink (watch it though!), relax and let's separate the real
- poker players from the cattle rustlers! Mono only. Excellent sound,
- excellent poker playing, and all sorts of fun (like when you're losing,
- buy the other players some drinks and see what happens!). Detailed docs
- included. Online helps. Recommended.
-
- Those are some of David Becker's most recent programs, but as I've said,
- he's done dozens more. You can find them all on GEnie, but I've seen
- them on information services and BBS's everywhere I've been.
-
- BGAMMON is Online Backgammon by David Becker. Online Backgammon
- ------- attempts to fill a void within the ST domain. First the lack of
- monochrome specific leisure software. Second a lack of games that can be
- played head to head online through the modem and last a shortage of
- freeware backgammon games period! It assumes you know how to play
- backgammon, and adheres to the games rules with only one exception (for
- you to find out!) You can either play against a friend on line or
- against the computer. Mono only. You must supply the modem! Docs
- included. For any ST, STe.
-
- CALVIN is a mono only animation of Calvin from the cartoon "Calvin and
- ------ Hobbes." Watch Calvin walk across your screen, at a speed
- controlled by you.
-
- CRISCROS is CrissCross by David Becker. It is a hybrid of Gomuku, Go
- -------- and Othello. You play against the computer on a 20x18 grid of
- 360 squares. You and the ST take turns putting down coloured markers
- and trying to get five in a row. When one of you is successful in
- getting five diagonally, vertically or horizontally then you will score
- 1 point and the five markers are removed from the grid. The first
- player to get 10 points will win the game. You play black. This is
- another experiment with the ZeST alternative interface (that gives your
- ST a NeXT look). For all ST's. Mono only (well, it will run in color,
- but it's not as nice). Docs included.
-
- DINGBAT by David Becker is a program that will allow you to include
- ------- those non-standard graphic characters that are hidden deep
- within your ST but which you cannot access from within the desktop. How
- about a little clock in your alarm accessory or a musical note in your
- MIDI program? This program can do it for you! Mono only. Docs
- included.
-
- F11_23 is the function key template designer v.2.3 by David Becker.
- ------ Have you memorized all the key combinations and what they do for
- that new word processor? How about the quick keyboard macros for that
- desktop publishing package? Can you remember where you left your car
- keys? This program can help (at least with the first two difficulties)!
- Design and print out templates that line up right alongside your ten
- function keys that give you all the reminders you need. Color or mono.
- Docs included.
-
- FASTFIX is Fast Fix by David Becker. It is a auto .PRG that turns off
- ------- that irritating keyclick and sets the ALT/HELP screen dump to
- 960 pixels/ line so that screens print correctly. Color or mono.
-
- FRUSTRAT is Frustration! It is a two player word search game. Each
- -------- player, in turn, tries to create words from a random
- combination of letters spread over an 11 by 11 grid (that works out to
- 121 letters). Scoring is based on word length, the longer the word, the
- better your score. Race against the clock and each other. Mono only.
- Docs included.
-
- JIFFYDRW is Jiffy Draw, a many-feature, DEGAS-compatible mono drawing
- -------- and paint program by David Becker. You can do lots of things
- with this program, especially some interesting manipulation of your
- finished drawings! Docs included.
-
- JUMBLE is ABC Jumble. This is an educational program for young children
- ------ in the 3-7 age group. This simple program lets kids sort the
- letters of the alphabet after the computer jumbles them up. Its GEM
- interface and point and click environment make it simple even for the
- littlest user. Helps on-line, encouragements when you complete you
- unjumbling, and more. Mono only (thanks David for producing so many
- mono programs, especially this one for kids!) Docs included.
-
- MONMAGIC is Monitor Magic, an .ACC that will let you change your color
- -------- monitor into a green or amber monitor. When you return to the
- normal colors the monitor no longer shows the green but a soothing blue.
- It will also allow you to reverse the display on your mono monitor.
-
- PAI_GOW is a computer poker game with a twist. You are dealt 7 cards
- ------- from which you must choose a two card and a five card hand. To
- win you must beat both of your opponent's hands. Play against the
- computer or with a person via modem. Mono only. Docs included.
-
- POKERSQR is Poker Squared. If you like solitaire and you enjoy poker
- -------- then you're going to enjoy Poker Squared. Runs on any ST with
- a mono monitor. 25 cards are dealt, one at a time into a square on the
- right side of the game board. You must decide where to place each card
- on a grid of 25 squares. Create the 10 best possible poker hands (you
- hope), five up and down, five side to side and two hands diagonally.
- This game uses the ZeST interface for the NeXT desktop look. Docs
- included.
-
- SMARTDAT is SmartDate. This little AUTO folder program will prompt you
- -------- to enter the day, month, and year when you hold down the
- Alternate or Control key when booting your ST. It will write that info
- to a small file. From then on, your ST will read that date on boot up.
- This way, you only need to set the date once each day in order for it to
- be correct. Great for keeping track of things! Docs included. Mono
- only.
-
- ZESTCLOK is a stand-alone version of the ZeST digital clock found in
- -------- v.1.6 of David Becker's Zest Desktop. Click on this when you
- want to turn your ST into a clock! Mono only. Interesting graphics and
- animation.
-
- ZESTKENO is ZeST Keno. This little program will allow you to play
- -------- hundreds of Keno games really fast and let me test different
- combinations of numbers. This version of Keno uses his ZeST alternative
- interface and requires a monochrome monitor. ZeST Keno is not a betting
- game as much as it is a tool for analyzing the game of Keno and the
- outcomes using different combinations of numbers. (I can tell you how
- it works out in the long run: the house wins and you lose!). Docs
- included. Mono only.
-
- ZESTPOKR is ZeST Draw Poker. He wrote this fun little program to show
- -------- off the ZeST Alternative Desktop (a NeXT look-a-like). Deal,
- draw, bet, check your winnings (we won't talk about the other
- possibility-- probability?). This game can even turn into a slot
- machine! Docs included. Mono only.
-
- ZEST16 is ZeST Desktop Applications v.1.6. This program is an amazing
- ------ alternative interface for the ST! It looks like the NeXT desktop
- with "sculpted" buttons and more. ZeST16.PRG includes a paint program,
- calendar, typewriter and database in a desktop environment, and now, a
- corner digital clock AND the ability to run other programs right from
- the ZeST desktop! Each program is fully functional, and useful! This
- guy is amazing. He keeps producing wonderful, Free programs. Also
- included is the GFA3 source code so you can expand on this idea
- yourself! Docs included. Mono only.
-
- AUTOZEST is Auto ZeST v.1.1, a GFA Interface Creation Utility. This
- -------- is a utility that completely automates the creation of ZeST
- screens, front ends, windows, buttons, boxes and sliders! It's like a
- poor man's NextStep in GFA. AUTO ZeST will save authentic GFA code to
- disk that can then be merged right into the GFA editor. ST/STe/MSTe
- compatible. Docs included. Mono only.
-
- But have you noticed that all of David's programs only work with a
- monochrome monitor? Are you stuck if you only have a color monitor?
- Not at all! There are a number of excellent monochrome monitor
- emulators out there. I'll only mention one today.
-
- SEBRA is "The High-Res Monochrome Monitor Emulator" by Patrik Persson
- ----- of Sweden. This is simply the best monochrome emulator I have
- seen as of today. It will work on any ST/STe/Mega with a color monitor
- or TV set! It is fast, with lots of options to customize the speed,
- screen display, and more to your satisfaction. The mouse moves SMOOTHLY
- about the screen. With a few simple keystrokes you can set this program
- up to run just as you wish. I recommend this highly. It works with
- just about everything, too! Read the docs to see all that he has done
- to optimize this program. It's exciting! Freeware.
-
- Well, that's about all for now. Next week I'm not sure if I'll tell you
- the story of how my hard drive almost led me down into the depths of
- dispair, or just show you how much material is being produced for the ST
- each week by just describing next week's downloads. Either way I hope
- it will be interesting!
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