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- ==(((((((((( == Z*NET INTERNATIONAL ATARI ONLINE MAGAZINE
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- =======(( ===== May 31, 1991 Issue #91-23
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- ==(((((((((( == (c)1989-1990-1991, Z*Net Publishing
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- Publisher/Editor: Ron Kovacs
- Senior Editor: John Nagy
- Terry Schreiber, Jon Clarke, Mike Mezaros, Drew Kerr,
- Keith Macnutt, Ron Berinstein, Mike Scheutz, Mike Brown
-
-
- CONTENTS
-
- THE EDITORS DESK................Ron Kovacs and John Nagy
- Z*NET NEWSWIRE..........................................
- Z*NET BBS MESSAGE BASE REPRINTS......................BBS
- MIDI CITY.................................Drew Reid Kerr
- INSTALLING THE JRI RAM+ BOARD...............Ben Hamilton
- HIGH RESOLUTION..........................Nathan Potechin
- LOGIC COMPUTER SHOW..........................From UseNet
- Z*NET SOFTWARE SHELF......................Ron Berinstein
- GENIE CONFERENCE CALENDER..........................GEnie
- CHICAGO ATARIFEST BY ATARI....................Mike Brown
- Z*MAGAZINE ARCHIVES...........................Ron Kovacs
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- THE EDITORS DESK
- ----------------
- by Ron Kovacs and John Nagy
- =======================================================================
-
- ** See NEW Copyright and Reprinting Information **
- ** at the end of this edition. **
-
-
- While discussion continues in a number of locations about the wisdom or
- importance of MAC and IBM inclusions in Atari online magazines, Z*Net
- reminds our readers of our solution: Z*NET PC. Although we do feature
- a few "other brand" newswire items in Z*NET ATARI ONLINE each week as a
- reference point, the bulk of such material can be found in our OTHER
- online magazine, Z*NET PC. After only two months of publication, Z*NET
- PC has gained a notable and growing following. If you want PC news and
- reviews in depth and in volume, you'll find it in Z*NET PC, not in Z*NET
- ATARI. We figure you should get what you want when you want it.
-
- Z*Net PC is edited and compiled by Ron Kovacs and Mike Mezaros, former
- publisher/editor of the Atari online magazine BetaZine. Currently,
- ZPC issues are available on GEnie in the IBM RT and on CompuServe in
- the IBMNEW Forum.
-
- On another topic, every month Z*Net receives or sees dozens of user
- group newsletters. Many of them reprint articles from our online
- magazine, and we are glad to see them use us. However, often the
- articles are reprinted without any credits. As the Z*Net Newswire is a
- copyrighted feature which a growing number of publications are paying to
- carry, proper credits and copyrights MUST be displayed. We've seen our
- newswire items appear in many newsletters with no credit, or worse,
- appearing to be original work of some club member who just downloaded
- it.
-
- If your non-profit club or organization produces a newsletter with less
- than 500 circulation, please, feel very free to use any article in Z*NET
- (except for a very few that have special notices in them forbidding
- reprinting). But PLEASE, don't edit the work to make it say something
- it didn't in the original, and DO include the copyright information,
- including author's name and the issue of Z*NET that it was originally
- printed in. And occasionally, it would be nice if your newsletter told
- your membership a bit about us and how they can read us each week...
- hopefully on your local BBS.
-
- Organizations or publications with 500 or more circulation or
- publications for profit must obtain specific reprinting permission from
- Rovac Industries, Inc. Contracts for continuing inclusion of the Z*Net
- Atari Newswire and/or Z*Net PC Newswire are also available. Contact Ron
- Kovacs at 908-968-2024, the Z*Net BBS at 908-968-8148, or by mail at
- Rovac Industries, P.O. Box 59, Middlesex, NJ 08846, GEnie at "Z-NET",
- CompuServe at 71777,2140.
-
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- Z*NET NEWSWIRE
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-
-
- BRODIE BEGINS FNET PRESENCE FOR ATARI
- Manager of User Groups Services and general Atari globetrotter Bob
- Brodie has begun participation in the FNET BBS system, talking to users
- world-wide via the Z*NET ATARI CONFERENCE within FNET. FNET is a system
- of many hundreds of interlinked private bulletin board systems that
- share messages and files though automated overnight phone calls. The
- Z*NET conference is currently the most popular of many conference topics
- available to each FNET BBS, and processes hundreds of messages each
- week. Brodie has been giving aid and setting rumors straight while
- generally enjoying the new forum. See a related story with excerpts
- from Z*NET messages in this issue of Z*NET.
-
-
- CALAMUS UPGRADE: $69.95 IN JULY
- Word from ISD's Nathan Potechin is that Calamus S, the modular
- replacement for the current Calamus 1.09N, will be available as an
- upgrade in July for $69.95 (U.S.). Watch Z*Net Newswire for the
- announcement as to exactly when it is ready. Nathan continues to
- encourage owners of the older versions to upgrade NOW to 1.09N ($29.95
- from any older level) rather than to wait and pay the whole $100 to get
- Calamus S. Calamus S contains every feature 1.09N has plus dozens of
- new features and it is totally modular. You can choose to purchase
- whatever additional modules you might require ie; the new vector line
- art module for use within Calamus, PKS Write word processing module, a
- paint module, etc. Nathan expects 2 dozen new modules for Calamus
- before the end of this year. Other features of Calamus S include
- working in up to 7 windows, 10,000th if a point text increments,
- rotation of all graphics, anchoring a picture to a word, text style
- attributes allowing global document restyle of tagged text, and lots
- more. Calamus S is the monochrome version, SL is the 4-color separation
- version. All modules (except color specific ones) will freely
- interchange between S and SL, allowing most users to buy S now and
- decide to move to WYSIWYG color in SL if and when they have the need.
-
-
- DYNACADD TT DELAYED AGAIN FOR MORE FEATURES
- Planned for release this week, the release of DynaCADD for the TT is
- being delayed. A recompiled TT version that takes full advantage of the
- TT's capabilities, DynaCADD TT features include: hidden line removal,
- bi-directional 3D DXF, 3D faces, compatibility with ray tracing and
- rendering packages on other platforms, etc. Says Nathan Potechin of
- ISD, "We have held back the release of the TT version of DynaCADD for
- ONE additional month. In addition to the long list of features already
- added to the not yet released new TT version of DynaCADD, we have
- decided to go even further. Now being added are: A Compiled Programming
- Language, a fully integrated multi-document editor, configurable command
- line interpreter, a script language and non-graphical properties. We
- had initially thought to add these features later but finally decided to
- do it all now. It will be worth the wait, of that I can assure you....
- While 16 million colors aren't that relevant in CADD, we will run with
- every configuration from VGA on up. We WILL USE the built-in math
- coprocessor."
-
-
- ATARIUSER 2ND ISSUE SHIPS LATE
- The newest and largest circulation Atari magazine, AtariUser, shipped
- its second issue this week. This month, 35,000 copies were circulated,
- and 40,000 are planned for next month, a circulation totaling more than
- all other US Atari magazines, newsletters, and newspapers taken
- TOGETHER. This month, features include a major comparison among
- Document Processors by Jim Pierson-Perry, a LYNX Resource Guide, a
- Viewpoint from Nathan Potechin, the Z*Net Newswire, and the regular
- columns covering the ST, TT, MIDI, 8-BIT, LYNX, and Portfolio. The June
- AtariUser was delayed for over two weeks by an error of the printer, who
- lost the original film for most of the issue. Publisher Steve Lesh says
- that his Quill Publishing Company that produces AtariUser has been
- assured that "it can't happen again". The July issue of AtariUser
- should be shipped to dealers, user groups, and bookstores by the 22nd of
- June, and future issues before the 18th of the month. Call 800-333-3567
- for subscription and distribution details.
-
-
- START SALE RUMORS
- STart Magazine remains suspended and unsold as of this writing. No
- official word has been released as to who may be bidding for what, but
- sale efforts continue with a number of parties. Atari itself is said to
- have contacted Antic Publishing owner Jim Capparell in hopes of the
- purchase of the subscriber base and the Atari portion of the Antic
- Software Catalog operation. If this happened, ATARI EXPLORER would gain
- between 9,000 and 14,000 subscribers. Other rumors include varied
- negotiations with both UK and German publishing concerns who want a US
- foothold. Although nothing is concrete, it would appear that STart
- subscribers and perhaps even creditors may indeed see something come of
- what was once the largest and most respected Atari support magazine.
-
-
- SOFTSOURCE OPENS ON GENIE
- With a minimum of pomp and circumstance, the long-awaited SOFTSOURCE
- KNOWLEGEBASE opened this week on the GEnie Telecommunications Service.
- The database of "all" Atari hardware and software is planned to include
- demonstration versions of most applications, downloadable right from the
- database. User can now search for listed products by category of
- product, keywords in the description, price range, release date,
- languages supported, and more. While the search format is arcane and
- user unfriendly, most Atarians can make use of the system by referring
- to the Softsource Manual and category lists that are available in the
- GEnie ST RT library. Several hundred entries are now in the database,
- which was conceived and announced nearly two years ago. Dan MacNamee of
- Atari is in charge of the project, which is also to spawn a CD ROM disk
- with every known product and demo on it, for real-time use at dealers.
- The concept is to allow users to compare and actually see and use major
- applications before choosing the right one for their needs and budget.
-
-
- OFFICE FOR MACINTOSH
- Microsoft announced shipment of The Microsoft Office version 1.5 for the
- Apple Macintosh which combines four business applications in a single,
- economical package, contains updates of two popular Macintosh
-
-
- IBM CHAIRMAN BLASTS MANAGERS
- John Akers, chairman of IBM blasted some of his managers earlier this
- month, confirmed after articles appeared in the Wall Street Journal and
- the New York Times, IBM confirmed this week. IBM blamed its problems on
- the recession. Privately however, Akers told IBM managers the company
- had "too many people standing around the water cooler waiting to be told
- what to do." Akers is 3 1/2 years away from IBM's mandatory retirement
- age of 60 and is beginning to talk in terms of his legacy. "The fact
- that we're losing market share makes me goddamn mad. I used to think my
- job as a (sales) rep was at risk if I lost a sale. Tell them theirs is
- at risk if they lose one," the Wall Street Journal quoted Akers as
- saying at a management meeting. Akers went on to state, "I'm sick and
- tired of visiting plants to hear nothing but great things about quality
- and cycle time and then to visit customers who tell me of problems. If
- the people in labs and plants miss deadlines ... tell them their job is
- on the line, too,... The company has too many sales representatives
- popping out for coffee with their customer and calling it a call."
-
-
- VISUAL BASIC BEST OF SHOW AT COMDEX
- Comdex Show organizers, Interface Group and BYTE magazine editors,
- selected the Visual Basic programming system as the most exciting new
- product which will have the most industry impact. The Visual Basic
- system was introduced May 21, 1991, at a press conference and will be
- available in June 1991 for a suggested retail price of $199. German and
- French versions are scheduled to ship in August, with other language
- versions to follow.
-
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- Z*NET BBS MESSAGE REPRINTS
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- Z*NET BBS (908) 968-8148
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- FNET NODE 593 Conference Code: 20448
-
-
- Conf : Z*Net Atari Online Magazine
- Msg# : 3645 Lines: 20 Read: 6
- Sent : May 29, 1991 at 3:37 PM
- To : Flash
- From : Bob Brodie
- Subj : Re: <3409> EA dropping the ST
-
- In message 593/4/3409, Flash writes:
-
- > News just in.. Electronic Arts is going to be dropping the ST line..
- > I hope everyone does not follow now that Word Perfect and EA have
- > dropped us.
-
- That's incorrect. Electronic Arts has merely split their efforts
- between their subsidaries. That is, EA-USA is going to handle *all* of
- the MS-DOS stuff. While EA-UK will handle all of the *68000* based
- stuff, like Mac, Amiga, and of course, the ST! EA tells me that their
- ST products are selling Mostly in Europe, but they are indeed selling!
-
- The thing that has a number of people confused is that they pulled the
- plug on their affiliated labels program. That means they will no longer
- publish Lucasfilm, and other companies (CinemaWare, etc). Those
- companies will have to publish their own stuff now.
-
- regards,
-
- Bob Brodie
-
-
- Conf : Z*Net Atari Online Magazine
- Msg# : 3644 Lines: Extended Read: 8
- Sent : May 29, 1991 at 3:30 PM
- To : BILL WHITEMAN
- From : Bob Brodie
- Subj : Re: <3523> AtariUser
-
- Replies: 3653 In message 593/4/3523, BILL WHITEMAN writes:
-
- > In message 593/4/3398, MIKE MEZAROS writes:
- > > >>
- > > Mike,
- > >
- > > If there is a cover price of a dollar, how does one call it free?
- > > Confusing to me, but again, there must be something I am missing
- > > here.
- > > Bill
- > > >>
- > > Me too, Bill, but I'm just going by John's article in Z-Net.
- > > According to that, the $1 cover price was only for bookstores who
- > > understand the concept of carrying a free mag. Computer dealers
- > > were supposed to give it away for free, regardless of cover price.
- > >
- > > Similarly, at Rutgers our university paper has a cover price of 10
- > > cents, But you are not supposed to pay for it. The cover price is
- > > there due to legal technicality having to do with postal rates (for
- > > alumni subscribers).
- > >
- > > ///Mike - Z*Net SysOp
- >
- > Mike,
- >
- > I have read in other places that there are stores charging the $1.00
- > for the magazine. I also understand that is ok with the publishers of
- > the mag. Do you happen to know what the official word is on this?
- > Should they be charging for it?
- >
- > Bill
- >
-
- It's really a California thing. We have a number of magazines that get
- passed around for free, via bulk drop offs at computer stores, and even
- user groups. But if you want them to send you the magazine - one copy,
- to your home each and every month...you gotta pay for it!
-
- regards,
-
- Bob Brodie
-
-
-
-
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- MIDI CITY
- ---------
- by Drew Reid Kerr
- =======================================================================
- GEnie D.KERR1 DELPHI DRKERR
-
-
- THE SOUND OF NO MUSICIANS PLAYING -- AN EDITORIAL
-
-
- One thing we Atari musicians have been saying for quite a while is boy,
- how lucky we are. Yes, we have four big music software manufacturers
- keeping us rolling in good bytes -- C-Lab, Steinberg, Hybrid Arts and
- Dr.T. Computer game manufacturers in the States may have ditched us,
- word processing software programmers may have dropped us, and we get
- very little ink in the mainstream media -- but as long as the Atari has
- two built-in MIDI ports, we'll get prime treatment.
-
- Don't get too comfortable....
-
- You don't have to own a sampler to know that Digidesign of Menlo Park,
- CA announced in December that it has stopped supporting the Atari line.
- This means the discontinuation of Sound Tools and Sound Designer for the
- Atari. This package is probably the best sample editing program on the
- market. It also functions as a sampling unit itself, storing data in
- the Atari hard drive and providing the ability to mix samples from
- various sources.
-
- I spoke with Digidesign Product Specialist Bob Haskitt, who explained:
- "For what we do, the Mac lends itself better." Digidesign's vision is
- to have a complete studio functioning from the computer using multiple
- card slots. "Atari didn't have the capability of handling multiple
- slots," says Haskitt. "We asked ourselves, 'Is it worth it to start
- from scratch?' The answer was no."
-
- SampleCell, the Mac-supported unit, exemplifies the Digidesign plan.
- Each card slot will serve a different musical function. For example,
- one card will handle sequencing, while another will provide a 4-track
- system. An additional card would provide another four tracks and so on.
- Digidesign is now an "all-Macintosh" company.
-
- Haskitt said that Sound Designer was "always a steady seller." On the
- other hand, Sound Tools didn't do too well in the United States because
- "customers found Megas too tough to find." Sound Tools sold well in
- Canada and Europe. I should note that Sound Tools is probably one of
- the most commonly used programs used with dance music and film scores
- and soundtracks.
-
- No doubt, this is a severe blow to Atari musicians. A fellow who calls
- himself "Midi Mike" sent me piece of e-mail about this, noting there has
- been much discussion about this in GEnie's MIDI BB. I haven't found it
- myself, but Haskitt said he'd be interested in hearing what musicians
- said. Send him a fax at 415-327-0777. Midi Mike said that everyone's
- turing to GenWave, which I think is made by Hybrid Arts.
-
- As if that wasn't enough, Atari has not advertised in Keyboard magazine
- for about six issues. I was used to seeing the full-color ad on
- Keyboard's inside back cover every issue, usually featuring guitarist
- Lee Ritenour. Keyboard is the most widely read keyboard player's
- magazine in the world -- keep this in mind.
-
- I've addressed this question on the Atari Corporation category in GEnie
- and the response from Atari's Bob Brodie was the ads would be returning
- soon.
-
- How soon is soon? If Atari has one real foothold in the U.S., it's with
- musicians -- and now they stopped advertising to them? Let's say some
- kid who's been playing piano picks up Keyboard to get an idea of what's
- a hot computer. No Atari ad means Atari probably wouldn't enter his/her
- mind. Another potential Atari user lost! Software companies see no
- Atari ads... you know the story... it's not very encouraging for them or
- us.
-
- If you believe in your Atari's abilities, as a musician, as a computer
- buff, or even a tech head, let them know you want them to support your
- computer! Let them know you want advertising back in Keyboard pronto!
- Are you on GEnie or CompuServe? Put some messages on their part of the
- bulletin board! Send a note to Bob Brodie.
-
- I do not want my computer to be a dinosaur.
-
-
- MIDI NEWSWIRE
-
-
- YAMAHA'S HOT BOX
- What's 370 x 254 x 67 mm in measurement (at least that's what the stat
- sheet says) and is flying out the door of music stores across the
- country?
-
- It's the Yamaha RY30 Rhythm Programmer (drum machine, to us simple
- folk)! I wrote in my last column that new drum machines and modules
- seem to be coming out thick and fast. From my reports, this one seems
- to have jumped to the number one slot, even over most keyboards!
-
- For around $480, this baby seems to be aimed at slaying Roland's R-5 --
- it's $10 cheaper, has a slot for more sounds, has a pitch wheel, and has
- the ability to store two waveforms on one pad! In plain English, this
- last feature means you can take the attack of one percussion waveform
- and mix it with the decay of another! We're talking customization!
-
- On-board memory contains 96 voices, 100 preset patterns (which are
- incredible), 100 user patterns and 20 songs. Full velocity sensitivity,
- four outs, no effects.
-
- But has Yamaha stopped there? No-o-o. Their TG 33 synthesizer module,
- which combines FM and vector synthesis and sells for under $500, is
- selling like hotcakes too. About half the preset patches sound like new
- age stuff, while the other half mimic real instruments. A very good
- buy.
-
- Taking a bath when suddenly an incredible bass riff comes washing into
- your head? Yamaha has that licked too -- its QY 10, which is about the
- size of a paperback book, is a little mini-recorder with built-in
- sounds. For $320, you can take it anywhere and figure out songs in the
- most unlikely places. You can dump SY 77 and maybe SY 55 data into it.
-
- Yamaha doesn't own a piece of me, but they are coming back this year to
- musicians with a vengeance!
-
-
- I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE
- The Emu drum module, Procussion, is off to a moderate start with its
- $800 price tag... the Alesis drum module, the D4, will now be out in
- September... although the Emu digital piano module, the Performer, has
- great sounds, the price is scaring people away. For a slightly higher
- price, musicians can buy the Roland U220 sample player module and get
- the piano and more.... similar story for Roland's new JD 800 synth with
- the programming levers built on top -- it's easy to program but too
- pricey... the Korg Wavestation is dropping in price. Was once $1800,
- now can be found for $1400. The module should be out this summer....
-
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- INSTALLING THE JRI RAM+ BOARD
- -----------------------------
- by Ben Hamilton
- Sysop of Virtual Reality BBS, Copperas Cove, TX
- =======================================================================
-
-
- SIMM module memory upgrades are rapidly becoming the new "standard" for
- memory upgrades to computers, and JRI (John Russell Innovations) of
- California have brought the SIMM upgrades to the 520ST and 1040ST with
- the introduction of their RAM+ Board.
-
- Many computer supply companies, are recommending JRI's upgrade, so I
- took advantage of the recommendation and ordered JRI's "Type C" board.
- The Type C is designed for many ST models, including the 520/1040ST with
- RAM chips under the keyboard, the 520/1040ST with RAM chips under the
- power supply, and the old-style 520ST without internal floppy drive. I
- assume that they also provide other models of the board for each type of
- ST. A quick call to JRI (the number is listed at the end of this
- article) should answer any questions you might have.
-
- When I called JRI, I talked with John Russell himself, who knew which
- type of board I needed, and he recommended that he do the installation,
- which costs an extra $50. If you feel uncomfortable opening your ST and
- if you have little or no experience with a soldering iron, then this is
- indeed best left up to a qualified electronics technician. I used to
- work for an electronics repair shop, and although I don't have any
- "official" training, I felt that I was qualified to do the installation.
- I couldn't do without my ST, as it runs my BBS, so I was really "forced"
- to do it myself anyway.
-
- After a little thought, I also decided not to try to find a better
- price, but to go ahead and order the SIMMs directly from JRI. One meg
- x 8 SIMMs are $50 each from JRI, which is a quite reasonable price. I
- have heard that they sell for as little as $38, but I was worried that
- they would be somehow incompatible with the upgrade board. JRI's docs
- to the board mention that low-profile, 120ns or faster chips are
- required.
-
- John suggested that he send the board and modules by UPS Blue, and I
- received them in UPS's usual timely fashion. The board sells for $125,
- and each SIMM (you need two for 2.0 or 2.5 meg and four for 4 meg) was
- $50. Shipping and COD was an extra $10 total.
-
- After I received the board, I read the included instructions several
- times to familiarize myself with the procedure. Of course, I hadn't had
- my ST apart yet, so I didn't know which type of motherboard I had. PC-
- board artwork is included in the instructions for each type of ST
- motherboard.
-
- The installation procedure is fairly simple, once you do it and realize
- what you've done! Everything is included in the installation kit, right
- down to the wires, the solder, and the cable ties. Installation
- involves removal of the ST Shifter chip, which is moved into a new
- board. At this point, a second chip can be installed which allows your
- ST to support a 4,096 color palatte. A floppy disk is included in the
- kit which has several demos for the new color support. I did not elect
- to get the extra chip from JRI (which costs $25) because this computer
- is dedicated to my BBS, and I have no need for the extra colors there.
- But installation and support of the chip is easily done by just popping
- in the new chip to the board socket.
-
- Next the boards (the one that holds the Shifter and the one that holds
- the SIMMs) must be secured by a supplied heavy gauge stranded wire.
- Convenient grounding points are provided on each board. I felt
- uncomfortable securing the RAM board only with the grounding wires, so I
- placed a piece of cardboard (the same cardboard that earlier supported
- the boards under shrink-wrap during shipping!) between the RAM board and
- the ST motherboard. I didn't want to take the chance that any of the
- contacts on the underside of the RAM board might touch any of the
- motherboard contacts.
-
- After the boards are mounted, a few wires must be run from the RAM board
- to the motherboard, and each connection is well-documented in the
- instructions. Some of the connections require that various resistors
- are removed, and wires are run from the pads where the resistors used to
- be. This is perhaps the most unnerving part of the installation -- once
- you clip those resistors, you have the feeling that there's no turning
- back. Another of the connections goes directly to the MMU, which I
- believe is the ST's memory management chip. This is also documented,
- although the instructions fail to even casually mention that two of the
- chips in the ST resemble each other, the MMU and the other chip, and
- since I'm a novice, I'm unfamiliar with the other one. But fortunately,
- the instructions also include the possible Atari part numbers of each
- chip, so I was able to determine which one was the MMU by its number.
-
- After installation was complete, I put it all back together and fired it
- up. Viola! About one hour's work, and I now have a 1040ST with 2.5
- megabytes of RAM! And I can upgrade to 4 meg with the addition of two
- more SIMMs and a few more changes to the installation. Instructions for
- changing to 2.0, 2.5, and 4 meg are included in the documentation.
- Upgrading to 2.0 or 4 meg requires the disabling of all of the internal
- RAM, and these instructions are also included. The floppy disk contains
- a memory tester TOS program, and the remainder of the programs deal with
- the 4,096 color option.
-
- If you're living with your ST with only 512K or one meg of RAM, I hope
- you decide to upgrade soon, and I give you my personal recommendation
- for the RAM+ Board from JRI.
-
- -Ben Hamilton, Sysop of Virtual Reality BBS, Copperas Cove, TX
- 817-547-1734 1200/2400/9600/14.4K bps HST-DS v.32bis/v.32/v.42/v.42bis
- Fnet #422, Fido-Net 1:395/6
-
- JRI (John Russell Innovations)
- P. O. Box 5277
- Pittsburg, CA 94565
- 415-458-9577
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- HIGH RESOLUTION
- ---------------
- Viewpoints from the Atari Community
- by Nathan Potechin
- =======================================================================
-
-
- ** Reprinted from the June 1991 AtariUser Magazine by permission. No
- further reprinting of this article is permitted except by permission of
- Quill Publishing, 818-332-0372. Subscription and distribution
- information for AtariUser is available at 800-333-3567.
-
-
- [Nathan Potechin is President of ISD Marketing, Inc., a Canadian company
- that has represented such products as VIP Professional, Masterplan,
- STAccounts and Accounts 2.0, as well as Ditek's Calamus family and
- DynaCADD. Nathan is also Vice President of Ditek International and
- President of the IAAD.]
-
-
- Atari Corporation's performance over the past few years in continental
- North America has been discussed by better writers than I. It's matter
- of record. What I'd like to share with you is what some of us have been
- doing about it, ad give you a better understanding of what it means to
- be a registered Atari Developer in 1991.
-
- Back in September 1989, a large group of Atari Developers got together
- to have a meeting at the WAACE User Group Show in the Washington, D.C.
- area. The result was the formation of the IAAD (Independent Association
- of Atari Developers). Since its inception, I have had the honor to
- serve as President of this association. The immediate goal of the IAAD
- was to help all of our members to help themselves.
-
- Our group of Atari Developers contains people from widely diverse
- backgrounds. We have Engineers, programmers in a large variety of
- languages, marketing types, hardware gurus and software gurus, all
- united by one common goal--survival. Profit is nice too. We are an
- unusual bunch in that we chose to develop for the Atari platform,
- instead of jumping on the bandwagon of the more prolific platforms. "I
- love my Atari" is quite often a fact of life with this group. This
- personal feeling is indicative of our own natures, and not a measure of
- Atari's success--where reality rears it ugly head.
-
- The fact is, by sharing or pooling our collective knowledge in terms of
- advertising, marketing, channels of distribution, trade shows, user
- group shows etc., many of our members can receive valuable assistance.
- And share we do, in a manner unprecedented in the computer industry.
-
- Some years ago, Atari had substantially greater geographic dealer
- representation and market penetration in North America. Then the
- erosion set in, making harder and harder to justify basic overhead, let
- alone development costs. Meanwhile, the European Atari community was
- doing fine, thank you. That's not to say that the International Atari
- subdivisions were creating "streets of gold", but they were doing better
- than we were here. So one avenue that was available to assist North
- American developers was to supply the contact information from those of
- us with worldwide representation to those with little or none. This was
- done, and it made a difference. It wasn't a cure or a sure thing, but
- it meant a lot to some developers.
-
- A major difference in the market and product mix has occurred over the
- past few years. As the Atari platform develops, the hardware becomes
- more sophisticated. This is a natural progression, offering a challenge
- to developers to keep abreast or take advantage of the latest
- technology. Products such as two I proudly represent, DynaCADD and
- Calamus, use that technology to offer viable, professional workstations
- that can not and will not be ignored. A classic example, and one I
- enjoy whenever possible, is demonstrating Calamus to someone that
- deigned to condescendingly offer a few minutes of their precious time to
- see what this "Atari toy" could produce. Two minutes is more than
- enough time to create a page using features their DTP software probably
- does not have, showing them screen representation that has been WYSIWYG
- for over two years, and then output to Atari's SLM804 or SLM605 in
- seconds. The usual DTP person usually plans their coffee breaks around
- about output time. Products like Calamus on the Atari are a real eye
- opener for them, and you may correctly have guessed that this is the
- single most enjoyable part of my job.
-
- Consider the above paragraph a preamble of what is to come. I have just
- returned from CEPS (Corporate Electronic Publishing Show) in Chicago.
- Without a doubt, this show saw the most professional exhibit that Atari
- ever created. Do not confuse this with "most expensive", "largest"
- etc., because it was not. But it definitely was an excellent
- representation of Atari desktop publishing workstations. The brochure
- was their most professional to date. The Atari booth location, situated
- directly between Linotype/HELL and Ventura, allowed us to show the folks
- at Linotype a few things about their imagesetters that they previously
- had not known or acknowledged. I can assure you that now, they know.
- It also gave us the opportunity to realize just how busy we were
- compared to Ventura's booth. I notice things like this.
-
- Others will begin to notice the change as well. July 1991 will see the
- release of the next generation of Calamus, Calamus S and SL, as well as
- approximately 2 dozen separate modules. Before the end of this year,
- DynaCADD will be available on the TT, Amiga, Mac, and IBM under Windows
- 3.0, with a UNIX version close behind, all file compatible.
-
- I have been professionally involved with the Atari Computers since
- August 1985. I was there when my 520 was starving for "anything" that
- it could run. I was there through the drought. And I'm definitely
- going to be here when Atari finally and firmly establishes it presence
- and credibility as a professional workstation, once and for all, in
- North America. Personally and professionally, I can't wait.
-
- Nathan Potechin
-
- [AtariUser Magazine offers this space each month to members of our
- community, to express themselves on matters of interest to Atari Users.]
-
-
-
-
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- LOGIC COMPUTER SHOW
- -------------------
- from UseNet
- =======================================================================
-
-
- Here in Zurich there has been the anual logic computer show. There have
- been several new very interesting products to see, in particular a
- series of new Unix machines in the "popular" class.
-
- The first I've seen is the Mac with A/UX 2.1. It isn't yet a SYSV, and
- there are some compatibility problems, but the BSD and SYSV libraries
- are included, and the integration of MultiFinder and Unix with X Window
- 11R4 is really impressive.
-
- I find they are really on the good way. I've been there during about
- 15-20 min, and Dr. Antonov, the Unix Guru there, I think, explained to
- me every detail with enourmous enthusiasm. Althougth I don't have a
- Mac, and the price of A/UX 2.1 is to high for me (not to speek about the
- X Win., wich is not bundled with), his presentation was fantastic.
-
- The second system I've seen is the Amiga 3000UX. It was also really
- impressive! The OpenLook interface operated exactly the same way as the
- Sun's OpenWindows 2.0 we have at school, and the price was really
- interesting too. The Commodore port of SYSV is the most complete I've
- seen for this class of machines. It comes with everything, from the
- networking capabilities to the BSD lib. and util. and OpenLook. The guy
- there is a student of economical computing at the Univ. ZH (his name is
- Blatter), and he let me "play" with the machine, showed me an xterm
- connection with another non Unix Amiga, and so on.
-
- At last I came to the Atari boots and I couldn't belive my (x)eyes. The
- Unix machine was there and there was nobody around it!!! The windowing
- interface looked great. I went there and tried some commands out in a
- csh, as the cd, ls, and so on. Then came a man, and with an impolite
- voice asked me :"kann ich Ihnen helfen?" (can I help you?) and stand in
- front of me so that I could not see the screen!
-
- The message was clear: Take your hands off my machine and get out of
- here! I asked him some details about the new machine (btw: how can an
- Atari laser work with Unix w/o stopping the processor? I think it is
- impossible by soft) and his answer were allways very expeditive and
- short. Absolutely no enthusiasm from his side! The only thing he
- wanted was that nobody put his finger on the keyboard! (he maybe was
- afraid that somebody typed "rm -r /" or something like that).
-
- Anyway he stood all the time with his shoulder between me and the
- screen! His name is Mr. Mester, from Atari Germany. I personnaly find
- that if they sent some young guy involved in the devloppent of ASV,
- instead of this (edited), it would be much better. (Sorry for title on
- this bandwidth, but he was really *edited*!)
-
- If this is the Atari policy I think I'll buy an Amiga 3000 UX, wich is
- btw ready and can be bought w/o problems (Atari Developer machine will
- be out in August!!!).
-
- Ok, that's all! I'm sorry to write something like that, 'cause I was
- really excited at the idea I could see the ASV jewell, but it wasn't
- what I expected. I hoped that I could write a good description of what
- I would see, but I didn't see very much...
-
- Ciao --- Rick
-
- Opinion expressed here are mine, and I'm proud of them !!!
-
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- Z*NET SOFTWARE SHELF
- --------------------
- by Ron Berinstein
- =======================================================================
-
-
- LHA130.ARC is the newest LHA variety, well suited for making and
- unmaking .LZH files. LZH11319.LZH is the latest optimized LHARC
- version, also well suited for .LZH files, and now well suited for use
- with Charles F. Johnson's ARCSHELL (ARCSH25.ARC). UNLZH172.ARC has also
- been known as a reputable, very fast .LZH extractor. XLHARC12.LZH still
- another variety. And those looking for files that will self extract
- might well be interested in SFX_LZH.LZH. And interesting also is
- PFXPAX.LZH, a runtime LZH compressor. Then again, there are also some
- good old standbys like LHARC060.LZH, and LHARC102.ARC. Others like
- FASTLZH2.LZH (other versions as well).
-
- .ARC files as well can be changed to the smaller .LZH format too! Many
- folks use ARCLZH30.LZH for exactly that. And while on the subject of
- .ARC files... Which .ARC file program should you use to uncompress a
- software file that has folders in it? Of course, easy answer. You all
- knew the answer right away, right? ARC602.TTP will do it! And now
- ladies and gentleman arm yourselves with your compressors and extractors
- and proceed to the next paragraph, wherein you will find plenty of
- chances to use them!
-
- O_LZHLST.LZH is a verbose file lister for .LZH files. Using it you
- will be able to tell in advance just what that .LZH file contains.
-
- DCR_TMAG.ARC DC Real-Time Magnifier will give you 8X magnification of
- the screen! Get close up where it counts; fat-bits in programs that
- don't have them! Great for paint programs. Move the mouse and the
- screen is updated in real-time! 100% assembly. ST, STe and TT
- compatible.
-
- Calamus Users Alert:
-
- WINDSORD.LZH Strong strokes, solid serifs characterize this unique
- face. Converted from the Mac Type 1, using the great MegaType
- utilities. Enjoy!! For Calamus only...
-
- UPPERWES.LZH You've seen the New Yorker magazine; you remember the
- unique typeface used for the logo. Well, thanks to David Rakowski and
- his Mac, you can now have that same typeface to create your own New
- Yorker magazine! Converted from the Mac Type 1 using the great MegaType
- utilities. For Calamus only...
-
- UNCIALDS.LZH A CELTIC looking font, this one reminds you of St.
- Patrick and the Emerald Isle. Converted from the Mac Type 1 using the
- great utilities from MegaType. For Calamus only...
-
- RECYCLE.LZH A Calamus font converted from the Mac Type 1, Recycle
- consists of various recycling symbols in place of letters. I don't
- think everyone will want this, but if you do any work where you need to
- indicate recyclability, you'll want this font. For Calamus only...
-
- GALLERIA.LZH You've seen this typeface around, in various logos, among
- other things. Converted from the Mac. For Calamus only...
-
- A New ALaddin!
-
- ST_ALAD.ARC ST Aladdin v1.23 - Latest version of this excellent GEnie
- navigation program.
-
- TRANSLIB.ARC The MIDI TransLibrarian is a shareware desk accessory for
- the Atari ST that allows you to load and save System Exclusive data from
- any MIDI device.
-
- DUALFORM.ARC Dual Form creates discs that can be used on both single,
- and dual sided drives, but does so in a unique way. It creates a folder
- called, "side 2" on the disk. Single sided drives can read everything
- except that folder. Double sided drives get to read everything.
-
- F_FEED.ARC ACC & PRG (just re-name) to send a form feed to the
- printer. Handy for starting a new page with files printed from the
- desktop and some other programs. GFA 3 source included.
-
- STWEL41.LZH ST Writer Elite 4.1 - Bug fixed, if file ended in ^Z,
- print to disk would not terminate. New Feature - Print device defaults
- to Printer, but if changed will remain on that setting. Fully
- configurable to color, default file specifier, tabs, format line. 3
- fonts in TT med and high res, just update files. Use UNLZH 1.7x to
- decompress!
-
- STW_GS41.LZH ST Writer Elite 4.1 Spanish and German versions. See
- description of ST Writer Elite 4.1 , English version, for changes.
-
- BMAKER19.ARC - Book Maker takes ASCII files and generates POSTSCRIPT
- code for use with UltraScript to print the file in "Book format" (four
- pages per sheet of paper -- two pages per side). - Options include page
- numbering, Cover Page creation, multiple fonts and more. Fixes
- pagination with pt. sizes less than 10, and includes PRINT QUEUE for
- BATCH printing.
-
- Tis' the day of the Indianapolis 500!
-
- INDYCAR.LZH It's that time of year in Indiana when the Indy cars start
- to run in the Indianapolis 500, so the author of this file thought he'd
- sample some of the sounds of the race.
-
- RECERCAR.ARC This is a big piece for HUGE pipe organ. Comprises three
- files: READ.ME (more about the music) an .MTS file (Atari Master Tracks
- Pro format), and a .MID file (Type 1 MIDI file--no expression in the
- tempo).
-
- Ok, become a "beta tester" - Now's your chance to give important
- feedback to a developer. Download BENCH.LZH for the info.
-
- BENCH.LZH The NBM benchmark program. Tests your machine through five
- specific routines, including math, memory fetch/store, disk drive read/
- write and dialog box draw. Results of tests on many machines are
- included. More results are needed. If you have results that are not
- yet included in the database, you are requested to help participate.
-
- DBLEFEAT.LZH This accessory from Claus Brod(author of PoolFix_CB) will
- disable the growing and shrinking box effects associated with GEM
- windows and dialog boxes; it will also allow redirection of drives - a
- program that always looks for files on drive A can be redirected to
- another drive! Full English documentation included. Shareware.
-
- GEMVW104.LZH Updated version of GemView! Even newer than the previous
- very recent upload!
-
- ENG_DRAC.ARC English AND color version of Drachen. Drachen is a
- Shanghai type game. Quite popular and worth the download...
-
- STREE104.ARC STree lets you search your drives for files meeting a
- specification - wildcards, attributes, size, date & time and bytes
- within a file - and then manipulate the matching files just like the new
- TT desktop. This new version fixes some occasional compatability
- problems.
-
- Well SORT these out!
-
- FILESORT.LZH A simple way to sort ascii lists and stuff... simply feed
- it to this program and voila! This program, Filesort v1.0, is FREEWARE.
- It is great for BBS sysops who need to sort a list of whatever, as well
- as for anyone who uses ASCII lists! BTW, this program will sort
- ANYTHING ascii! It is even fun to sort text and try to figure out what
- it was!! ha!
-
- DIR15.LZH Utility to sort/search for files with several criteria or
- masks. Works on folders, files, and partitions. GFA BASIC 3.5 source
- included.
-
- ELFBOO.ARC ELFBOOT is a new startup utility for the ST, which is
- offered as shareware by Elfin Magic Software. Put it in your AUTO
- folder. The author boasts that this program compares to commercial
- offerings! It offers GEM-like mouse control!
-
- FMC.LZH FMC.PRG means forced media change, or this small .prg will
- force TOS 1.0 to recognize a disk change by simply pressing <Esc>.
- (Apparently some versions of TOS 1.0 didn't do that.)
-
- SUNMOON.LZH Sun_Moon.lzh is a PD program showing rise/set times of the
- sun and moon for various selectable cities.
-
- The above files were compiled by Ron Berinstein co-sysop CodeHead
- Quarters BBS (213) 461-2095 from files that were either directly
- uploaded to CodeHead Quarters BBS, or downloaded from GEnie, Compuserve,
- and Delphi online services.
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- GENIE CONFERENCE CALENDER
- -------------------------
- from GEnie
- =======================================================================
-
-
- DTP CONFERENCE AND FREE TIME OFFERED
-
- Monday June 3, 1991, the ST RT on GEniw will host it's first DTP
- conference with Ron Grant, New SysOp, and offer free time during the
- conference to the attendees.
-
-
- WIN FREE PAGESTREAM FONT DISKS DURING "FONT NIGHT" IN THE SOFTLOGIK
- ROUNDTABLE!
-
- This coming Tuesday, June 4th, will be "Font Night" in the SoftLogik
- RoundTable. We'll be having our first monthly PageStream Conference and
- the theme will be "Fonts for Atari and Amiga PageStream." All
- PageStream users (and other interested parties) are invited to join our
- panel of Font Masters to ask questions about the fonts they create. The
- font makers will discuss the various disks they offer, what programs
- they use to create their fonts, where they get their inspiration for
- fonts, and much much more. Learn what "hinting" is, how to get the most
- out of your PostScript and Non-Postscript printer (as concerns fonts),
- and more!
-
- Each of the font creators has donated a high-quality PageStream font
- disk for this event, and we'll be randomly selecting winners of these
- disks throughout the evening. In addition, one lucky winner will
- receive every Adobe Type 1 font in the SoftLogik RT by US Mail -- no
- downloading time or expense! These Adobe fonts can be printed using
- PageStream 2.1 which is currently available for the Commodore Amiga and
- will be available very shortly for the Atari ST.
-
- Tuesday, June 4th, from 9:45 to 10:45pm Eastern Time.
-
- The SoftLogik Real Time Conference Room on GEnie. Type "M385;2" or
- "SOFTLOGIK" (without the quotes) at any GEnie prompt.
-
- In addition to the team of SoftLogik Sysops, we'll be joined by Safari
- Fonts President Jay Pierstorff, Cherry Fonts President Todd Johnson,
- font creators Dennis Palumbo, Bernie Lagrave and others..!
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- CHICAGO COMPUTERFEST BY ATARI
- -----------------------------
- by Mike Brown
- =======================================================================
-
-
- Lake County Area Computer Enthusiasts, in cooperation with Atari Corp.,
- present the Chicago Computerfest by Atari, November 23 and 24th 1991.
- Show hours will be 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM both days.
-
- 1: Chicago - My kind of town.
-
- Chicago is known by many names- "The Second City", "The Windy City" and
- so on. Chicago is in the heartland of the nation, bordered on the east
- side by Lake Michigan, and the west side by one of the busiest airports
- in the world, O'Hare International.
-
- When you bring your family with you to the Chicago Computerfest, they
- will have plenty to do and see if they tire of the show itself.
-
- 2: Show concept
-
- The Chicago Computerfest has been brewing for over a year; The first
- thoughts about sponsoring an international computer show began after our
- highly successful "Atari SwapFest" held in June, 1990. With help and
- support from Greg Pratt, Bob Brodie and others at Atari Corp. we began
- the process of putting this show together.
-
- I think that you will be impressed by the "polished" appearance of the
- facility that we have chosen - the facilities and services provided to
- participants at this show are the same that have been provided to larger
- computer oriented shows, such as the Softsource show that was held the
- Ramada O'Hare this past April.
-
- We are confident that this broad reaching publicity will improve the
- demographics of our show compared to other Atari-focused shows of the
- past. As Atari's Bob Brodie said, "...we must quit feeding on
- ourselves...".
-
- The Exhibits area
-
- The standard exhibitor booth will be professionally piped and draped,
- the booth will be clearly marked with a professionally printed sign and
- will contain one 8' draped table and two chairs. One 115 volt / 20 amp
- electrical outlet will be provided upon request (please note power
- requirement on contract form) to each booth.
-
- Additional power may be ordered at $55.00 per drop (consisting of two
- outlets). Telephone service will be provided to exhibitor booths if
- needed (requires that the exhibitor have a Ramada room number to charge
- calls to). Please give at least 60 days notice prior to the show
- opening date if you will be requiring additional power or telephone
- hookups.
-
- In addition to the above, we are able to provide items such as display
- cases, and special lighting for booths. Storage service is available
- for exhibitors prior to, and during the show. Please contact us for our
- special services rate list.
-
- The Gaming area
-
- Last year, I had the good fortune to attend the GenCon (North America's
- largest "Gaming" convention) in Milwaukee as a guest of the MilAtari
- user group and Atari Corp. Atari made a very strong showing at GenCon -
- many people who didn't even know that Atari made computers (or had
- thought that the company was out of business) were exposed to the 50+
- machines available for use.
-
- All of the latest Atari ST games were available for attendees to play,
- and two full MIDI-maze rings drew a staggering number of attendees day
- and night, the entire run of the show (a week) into this unique real
- time multiplayer game.
-
- By special arrangement with MilAtari, and through the cooperation of
- Atari Corp. we will bring the excitement of GenCon to the Chicago
- Computerfest! There will be two full MIDI-Maze rings with ongoing
- competitions. The "open gaming" will allow attendees to reserve an ST
- system and select a popular game title of their choice to play. There
- will be LYNX competitions for fun and for prizes.
-
- Admittance to the gaming area will require the purchase of a general
- admission ticket, and the "gamers" will have to gain entrance through
- the exhibits area - that means additional potential sales and exposure
- for YOU.
-
- The Learning area
-
- The space adjoining the main convention hall will be configured as a
- "classroom" setting. This area will be available for developers to
- teach, in a "hands on" environment, the use of their products.
-
- Atari Corporation will provide a number of complete ST systems, overhead
- LCD screen Projector, and PA system to be used for this teaching area.
- The room will be set up classroom style with the "instructor" at the
- head of the group.
-
- There will be an additional charge for attendees to participate in these
- class sessions, advance registration (due to the limited capacity) will
- be required.
-
- The Seminar area
-
- There will be 3 seminar rooms available to attendees. Each room will be
- capable of seating an average of 50 persons per room.
-
- These rooms will be available at no additional cost for exhibitor use
- during the course of the show for group product demos and Q & A
- sessions.
-
- Other Attractions
-
- Other special events planned for the course of the show will be: a
- Welcome Reception Friday night in the 9th floor Penthouse Ballroom,
- (sponsored by Atari), A Saturday Night Banquet (we are assured that the
- food WILL be edible!) in the Grand Salon (A number of famous guest
- speakers are planned to speak at the Banquet), a MIDI conference, and
- conferences sponsored by Atari to educate dealers on technical aspects
- of the Atari ST/TT line.
-
- There will be a general Q & A session in Salon A-B-C both days with
- Atari Corp. It is expected that Bob Brodie will give his usual fast
- paced talk about "The State of Atari". Seating capacity for the
- presentation is approximately 300.
-
- About the show facility
-
- The Ramada Hotel O'Hare is situated just outside the northeast gate to
- O'Hare International Airport, near the intersection of I-90, I-294, and
- I-190. There is complementary shuttle service provided for hotel guests
- from all airport terminals.
-
- We have negotiated a highly competitive $60.00 a night (plus tax) rate
- based on double occupancy, for Computerfest attendees. Please use the
- inserted reservation card for other rates. It is necessary to use the
- special Ramadareservation card to obtain these discount prices.
-
- The hotel accepts: American Express, Carte Blanche, Diner's Club,
- Eurocard, Mastercard, Multicard and Visa.
-
- The hotel is a modern "Barrier Free" design allowing access to the show
- facilities by all attendees.
-
- Planes, Trains and Automobiles
-
- Public transportation is available to downtown Chicago as well as the
- greater Chicago area.
-
- Chicago's Union Station offers Amtrak service to/from the continental
- USA and Canada.
-
- A number of rental car agencies are based in the immediate area.
- Because of the large number of companies - prices are very competitive.
- If you wish us to check prices for you, please indicate the class of
- car and extras that you desire, and we will be glad to send you
- information via GEmail.
-
- Driving to Chicago Computerfest by car is easy- the show site is just
- Northwest of the intersection of I-190, I-294, and I-90. The Ramada can
- be reached by taking the Higgins road exit off of I-90 and turning north
- at Mannheim Road - the hotel can be found at the Northwest corner of
- Higgins and Mannheim road.
-
- Fees and admissions
-
- Admission to the Chicago Computerfest by Atari will be $6.00 per day at
- the door. A two-day ticket set will sell for $10.00. The Learning
- Seminars will require advance registration and an additional fee; as
- soon as our program is set, we will send all of the details.
-
- If you have a question or suggestion, please don't hesitate to contact
- us in writing, via my GEmail address (M.BROWN56) or via the show hotline
- number. We are eager to help and serve you - tell us what you need!
-
- How to reach us
-
- Chicago Computerfest by Atari
- C/O LCACE
- P.O. Box 8788
- Waukegan, IL 60079-8788
- 24hr Hotline- 708-566-0682
-
-
-
-
- =======================================================================
- Z*MAGAZINE ARCHIVES
- -------------------
- June 11, 1986
- =======================================================================
-
-
- WHAT IS ZMAG?? (1986)
-
-
- MSG#: 1621 Lines=16 Recv
- SENT:JUNE 10,1986 AT 10:03 PM
- TO: WODEN-SYSOP
- FROM:RICHARD SCHRAUDNER
- SUBJ:ZMAG?
-
- Zmag seems to be a GREAT idea. When I think back to my early atari
- days, up all night keying in Compute programs & now fully immersed in
- the "mainstream" of computer technology, I'm amazed at the oportunitues
- to learn & enjoy. Zmag seems to fill an additional void that goes
- beyond an individual board or even network. I'll D/L some more as time
- allows & get it up to the Fun house (a bit hard to get to during
- available hours). Thx & looking forward actually meeting.
-
-
- Message # :243
- Date & Time :06/08/86 23:27:26
- Subject :HELP/OPINION
- To :RON KOVACS-SYSOP
- Sent by :THE SOCIALIST
-
- First of all you must have some weird control stuff in your main menu
- which is screwing me over something bad over here... Jus' doesn't look
- right in ASCII.
-
- Now for the "who asked you?" Department. Very honestly, I think this
- BBS is going downhill and I think something should be done about it!
- First off, why cant you be indepentdant? Why must you be in a big
- interstate network, have a big interstate magazine extending all the way
- to Chicago, and be so damn stuck up.............I mean, you're still the
- same but you seem to want to jump on the bandwagon, and as a result this
- BBS isnt just a BBS, it is a collection of BBS's all the way around the
- tri-state area. I am beginning to feel like I'm on some big timesharing
- thing like Compuserve or something. My suggestion, drop the whole thing
- and stop catering to all these stupid BBS's and user groups. I have
- never heard of BAT, or even BAUD, before a month or so ago. And I don't
- care. I also don't care wut BBS's are in this great Network which in my
- opinion is a fluke..............This ZMAG concept is full of (edited)
- and will never last.
-
- Note: What the heck happen to this guy... <grin>
-
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