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- FUNKYWARE.ORG - COM_PORT.TXT - 26.07.1997
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- NOTE: The follow is a series of e-mail exerpts exchanged with
- Ronald Anderson, discussing suitable uses for each port
- on the M-STE and TT. It was included here, because some
- people tell others they better use Modem 2, but fail on
- providing proper reasons as to why one should.
-
- Ronald has proven very knowledgable on many key aspects
- of Atari hardware and software, so while opinions given
- here are strictly his own, one will notice he knows how
- to support his point with strong evidences.
-
- About why Atari provided 76800 and 153600 on Modem 2, I
- recall Ronald pointing out that they are respectively 4
- and 8 times 19200. When the M-STE and TT were designed,
- these speeds looked promising because of that aspect.
-
- One might notice 38400 is twice 19200 (the only related
- multiple that became an established standard) as recent
- developments are all based on 14400 exponentiation.
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- To: q-funk@megacom.net
- Subject: STinG DNS resolving on TT & MSTE
-
- STinG was designed for compatibility to the port access methods
- of HS-Modem, so unless you have some fully compatible replacement
- I strongly recommend using HS-Modem. The TT users I mentioned
- always use 'Modem 2' for STiK/STinG. 'Serial 2' is too primitive
- for modem operation, and 'Modem 1' is identical to that on an ST
- (slow).
-
- Of course, all serial ports should work with STinG, but a modem
- needs control signals beyond what 'Serial 1' and Serial 2' have.
-
- ###
- To: q-funk@megacom.net
- Subject: Re: [2] STinG DNS resolving on TT & MSTE
-
- >> Of course, all serial ports should work with STinG, but a modem
- >> needs control signals beyond what 'Serial 1' and Serial 2' have.
- >
- >Using STiK, Serial 2 has proven both faster and more reliable.
-
- Serial 2 uses an SCC port, just as Modem 2 does. The speed
- capability of those ports is identical, but there are some
- differences:
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- 1: Modem 2 has the RI interface line, used for incoming modem
- calls. This does not matter for any outgoing calls of course.
-
- 2: Serial 2 is actually the very same SCC port as is also used
- by LAN, which has three consequences:
-
- 2.1: LAN and Serial 2 activation each excludes the other.
-
- 2.2: A hardware selection is required to activate the hardware
- drivers for either LAN or Serial 2. If that selection is
- in LAN mode, the Serial 2 port will be completely 'dead'
- and vice versa. Not all terminal programs are capable of
- controlling this.
-
- 2.3: The start-up default is for the LAN hardware to be active,
- and so the default speed is also set for LAN use (highest).
- This may be why you have come to regard it as faster, but
- with proper software the Modem 2 port has exactly the same
- speed capability.
-
- [ NOTE: as stated below, it turned out Modem 2 and Serial 2 have
- separate clocks, so changing the software will not solve
- this --making point 2.3 partially wrong--, hence why the
- 14 MHz PCLK modification was invented. ]
-
- >However, Serial 1 is indeed primitive and hardly usefull beyond
- >driving a serial mouse!
-
- For local STinG use it is equally useful as Modem 1, since it
- is in fact an identical MFP port and STinG requires no physical
- handshake. Data loss is ensured against by the acknowledgements
- of TCP protocol.
-
- In fact IP itself is not designed to be 'lossless', since all high
- level protocols are required to have their own error recovery. I
- myself have used Midi in my experiments with local STinG networks,
- and that [ Midi ] has only TXD and RXD without handshaking, just
- like Serial 1.
-
- ###
- To: q-funk@megacom.net
- Subject: Re: [4] STinG DNS resolving on TT & MSTE
-
- >***Serial 2 deficiencies***
- >
- >Well, one mod I intend on doing is Franz Sirl's 12MHz upgrade for
- >Modem 2, which make it possible for Modem 2 to acheieve speeds up
- >to 230.4 like the LAN port. It is recognized by both HS-Modem and
- >Fast_serial, so this should be a noticable improvement! ;-)
-
- Sounds interesting. I'm not at all well informed on the clocking
- system used for the SCCs of Falcon and TT myself. I guess I need
- to read up on it, but I only have one machine with an SCC anyway,
- so I cannot use these speeds in my networking.
- (My 14k4 USR modem won't swallow anything faster than 38k4 either.)
-
- ###
- To: dlanor@oden.se
- Subject: Re: Modem 2 vs Serial 2
-
- >Note that I have since checked the circuit schematics for the TT
- >again and have found that the clock generation for the two ports
- >of the SCC is indeed separate. This means that some modification
- >of the hardware may be necessary to achieve full baudrate control.
-
- This is what the modification described in Fast_Serial does, and
- HS-Modem can also recognize if a PCLK of 14 MHz is used, instead
- of the stock 8 MHz speed.
-
- >I still say that Modem 2 has the same potential for speed as does
- >Serial 2/LAN, though I now realize it may need some clock changes.
-
- Indeed! ;-)
-
- ###
- [ NOTE: The modifications discussed above are described in my
- English translations of texts by Franz Sirl and Harun
- Scheutzow, found elsewhere on this site. ]
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