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From: Hubert Lai To: Ron Mckenzie Msg #16, 02-Jul-90 06:37pm Subject: A Win2.1 or 3 Scrn Capture Utility? In a message of <29 Jun 90 19:09:36>, Ron Mckenzie (1:104/45.1) writes: RM>I need a utility to capture screens while I'm running Win. (Presently, RM>I use Win2.1 and expect to be on 3.0 within 2 weeks.) What do you know RM>that works under either or both WinVersion? Where can it be had? If RM>shareware, please include the net/node & pswd for f'request. Thanks!! I don't know if it works under Windows 3.0. However, have you tried TIFFANY? I think Tim has it. If not, some other Windows-oriented BBS will. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Chu Son Msg #17, 02-Jul-90 06:40pm Subject: Re: Wp 5.1 & Windows 3.0 In a message of <30 Jun 90 10:02:00>, Chu Son (1:104/518) writes: CS>Well..Word Perfect promised to make WP for Windows before PM. What is your source? I'm willing to make it interesting by placing a small wager here that WordPerfect for Windows 3.0 is NOT released under after WordPerfect for Presentation Manager is. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Kevin Payne Msg #18, 02-Jul-90 06:43pm Subject: Disk formatting In a message of <30 Jun 90 19:43:21 >, Kevin Payne (1:30072/5) writes: KP>I have two floppies, a 5.25 and 3.5. If I have up two DOS Command KP>windows, I seem to be able to format both floppies simultaneously. This is really not a very good idea. Formatting floppies is timing-sensitive, for one thing. For another, most machines are not designed such that both floppy drives can be used simultaneously. In fact, in IBM's original PC, there was only enough power to run one drive at a time, so if you were copying from one floppy to the other, the machine actually alternately powered one drive up and down while it powered the other drive down and up! <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Hakim Madjid Msg #19, 02-Jul-90 06:47pm Subject: Re: wp 5.1 & windows 3.0 In a message of <30 Jun 90 22:35:00>, Hakim Madjid (1:101/0) writes: From: Hubert Lai To: Robert Berry Msg #20, 02-Jul-90 06:51pm Subject: win 3.0 weird facts In a message of <30 Jun 90 00:31:57>, Robert Berry (1:151/223.15) writes: RB> Actually, I don't think *any* PC software has yet been released that RB>is completely SAA compliant. OS/2 and Windows certainly use elements RB>from SAA's Common User Access interface, but there are significant RB>deviations. I don't have the complete specs on the architecture but I RB>have been told that no current OS/2 applications are completely CUA RB>compliant. (This comes from my summer employment at IBM.) Could you be so kind as to enlighten this poor soul and tell me what aspects of Windows 3.0 and OS/2 1.2 deviate from CUA specifications? I don't need to know every single deviation (though I wouldn't mind). A half a dozen or so would do just fine. I would also be interested in why these deviations exist -- i.e. whether Microsoft thought their way was better, whether it was too impractical for some reason to do it, or what. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Steven Abbett Msg #21, 02-Jul-90 07:33pm Subject: Re: Sv800 Driver In a message of <30 Jun 90 18:32:28>, Steven Abbett (1:161/208) writes: SA>Yes thank you...I did get the drivers but didn't know they were SA>coming with 256 color drivers...That will be a added improvement...I SA>love the 800X600 but alas the 1024X768 is too hard to see...perhaps SA>with a different character set...Steve Try using the fonts for the 8514. I am, and they are very easy on the eyes. The procedure for using these fonts instead of the VGA fonts was described here recently by someone else. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Andre Beaulieu Msg #22, 02-Jul-90 07:48pm Subject: ATI Drivers In a message of <30 Jun 90 17:39:00>, Andre Beaulieu (1:167/103) writes: AB>-> HL> ATI has released Windows 3.0 drivers for its ATI VGA AB>-> HL> Wonder. 1024x768x16 and 800x600x16 drivers are available. AB>-> HL> 256 colour drivers are forthcoming... AB> AB>Where can i get those drivers ?? Direct from the company or it may AB>available freely via BBS ?? You can call the company and they will mail you the drivers. If you are in a hurry, you can call their BBS and download them. If their BBS is busy, a large number of BBSs which participate in this echo have them available for download or file request. Hope this helps! <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Claude Lachance Msg #23, 02-Jul-90 07:51pm Subject: Newwave In a message of <01 Jul 90 08:30:00>, Claude Lachance (1:167/150) writes: CL>I'd like to know if some of you tried NEWWAVE with Windows 3.0? I don't think that Hewlett-Packard has come up with a Windows 3.0 version of New Wave yet. They promise to do so in the near future. They also promise a version of New Wave for OS/2. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Bill Carney Msg #24, 02-Jul-90 07:52pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 In a message of <30 Jun 90 18:50:52>, Bill Carney (1:159/625) writes: BC>What the hell is all this?! If I wanted to be in PC Relay, I'd run BC>PCBored.. Whoever set up that gateway also dumped a month's worth of backlogged mail too, and a lot of it was dupes. 'twas a nasty shock indeed to di3cover t(e sudden mail overload here. I sure wish th!t whoever set up the gateway had though4 to ask the echo parti#ipants 7hat the9 thought of the idea before he went and did it. <=- Hubert --- ms'ed 1.99④C/Magnu3 * Or)gin: HU⇩ Techno,ogies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Tc Cheng Msg #25, 02-Jul-90 07:55pm Subject: Converting GIF's to BMP's In a message of <24 Jun 90 10:49:55>, Tc Cheng (1:102/770.23) writes: TC>Can you specify the exact file name of this GCP picture viewing TC>program? The copy I have was in an archive by the name of GCP42S.ZIP. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: David Anderman Msg #26, 02-Jul-90 07:58pm Subject: Re: Sv800 Driver In a message of <26 Jun 90 14:41:10>, David Anderman (1:202/303) writes: DA>There is an ATI driver for 3.0 out there; it only works at 800X600X16 DA>resolution, however. There is also a 1024x768x16 driver available. --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Scott Hoffman Msg #27, 02-Jul-90 08:01pm Subject: Lock-up running Win 3 in 386 mode In a message of <27 Jun 90 17:00:10>, Scott Hoffman (1:305/109) writes: SH>I've checked the rev level on the CPU, and it is not one of the lots SH>listed as having the paging mode bug. I've taken all tsrs out of the SH>autoexec file, removed all bios shadowing, stripped out all of the SH>device drivers except for the mouse (Microsoft) and HIMEM.SYS, with the SH>same results. Make sure that the copy of HIMEM.SYS that you are using is the NEW one that comes with Windows 3.0 and not an old one that may have been lying around on your HD from before. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Jim Heath Msg #28, 02-Jul-90 08:02pm Subject: Win 3/Telix Comm In a message of <27 Jun 90 20:24:18>, Jim Heath (1:114/18.20) writes: JH> HL> My Binkley has been running with 0,0 for years now... JH> JH>Why 0,0... I 'read' the bink docs and somewhere in the setup it JH>suggested the 18,256.... Any ideas on the differences???? 0,0 uses dynamic stack allocation. 18,256 pre-allocates 18 paragraphs of 256 bytes to the stack. Most stuff that I've read recommends 0,0. Since I've never had problems with Bink or any other software, I've continued to use 0,0. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Neil Atwood Msg #29, 02-Jul-90 08:06pm Subject: Re: Ventura 2.0 under Windows In a message of <28 Jun 90 14:18:13>, Neil Atwood (3:711/421) writes: NA>I am VERY interested in what you called Ventura Gold - I presume this NA>Ventura v3.0 ? Yep, that's right. For more information, you're best off to contact the vendor, or drop in on the LASERPUB echo. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Tim Carter Msg #30, 02-Jul-90 08:09pm Subject: New Moderator! In a message of <27 Jun 90 07:08:09>, Lee Lasson (1:104/45) writes: LL>Please welcome our new Windows Echo Moderator, Tim Carter! Hey, congratulations Tim! <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Phillip Wertheimer Msg #31, 02-Jul-90 08:11pm Subject: Windows Apps. default sub-directory In a message of <27 Jun 90 11:02:00>, Phillip Wertheimer (1:343/105) writes: PW>Can You tell [}y] where I can find instructions on setting windows PW>applications to look at default sub-directories. i.e. I want winword PW>to look into a subdirectory called [DOCS] when I start up WinWord. Look in the Word for Windows Reference manual under "WIN.INI". <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Chuck Ruff To: Everyone All Msg #32, 02-Jul-90 07:37pm Subject: Win 3.0 and TOPS Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get TOPS to work under Windows 3.0? We use TOPS as a way of sharing AppleLaser printers on a network with compatables and MACS. The compatables worked fine using WIN386 as long as DMA was disabled when loading the TOPS software. However, under 3.0 none of the compatables can print to the LaserWriter in either real, standard or enhanced mode. TOPS technical support had no suggestions except to wait for a 3.0 compatable version but didn't offer any time frame for its release. The TOPS software is loaded prior to starting Windows and creates a temporary output file as it should. Communication with the printer does not occur with just an accumalation of these temp files happening. Any suggestions as to what we can try? Thanks --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Houston Area League of PC Users TELECOM 1..(713)498-3248 (1:106/262.0) From: David Dunning @ 914/201 To: All Msg #33, 01-Jul-90 06:55pm Subject: Ati Vga Wonder Drivers Well, folks: foolish me! Right after leaving my last message about not being able to find the new drivers on Compuserve, it occured to me to look in the Microsoft Windows Forum! Gee, what a place to keep those drivers! (I'd been looking in hardware and graphics areas; I'd never been to the Windows forum before.) So anyway, there they were, and I've 5ploaded them he2e as AT WIN.ZIP. The 800x600 (x16) work3 fine, but the 1024x768x16 doesn't work right; it lea6es all +inds of dirt on the screen of my NEC 3D. The 4ext is 3o small, though, that t(e 800x600 is &ine. Wo5ld like to know what th% deal is with the "dirt", tho. =david= --- RBBSMail 17.3A # Origin: REG_10_SDSCoord 1:125/41 415-621-2609 HST/V.32 (RBBS 8:914/201.0) * Origin: Network Gateway to RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) From: David Dunning @ 914/201 To: All Msg #34, 01-Jul-90 07:03pm Subject: Icon Creators I've also uploaded two icon creation programs here that I got from the Windows forum on Compuserve; ICONDR.ZIP and PBIC10.ZIP. The first is v.1.1 of the program that's been discussed here. The second I don't recall seeing mention of, but it's the one that I prefer. It uses Paintbrush for actually creating the graphics, and then it puts them in the appropriate format. This is a nice approach, because it means that anything you can either create or import into Paintbrush can be used as an Icon. I like it. The only problem with these programs is that the icons only function in Program Manager. When a window is minimized, it reverts to a more generic icon. =david= --- RBBSMail 17.3A # Origin: REG_10_SDSCoord 1:125/41 415-621-2609 HST/V.32 (RBBS 8:914/201.0) * Origin: Network Gateway to RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) From: Annette Parks @ 914/201 To: Sue Coleman Msg #35, 01-Jul-90 08:10pm Subject: Win3 & Goscript Sue - hope you got a message I sent you about a week ago - sure you're rushed off your feet and maybe didn't have time to respond (if you got the thing.) I'm delighted a MicroSoftie is taking part in this echo - sounds like a couple of your colleagues may also be on the blower. Please give me the benefit of some input (if available) on how to make GoScript Plus 3.0 (the PostScript printing utility) run happily within Win3. GS forces the user to exit an app (in my case WP5.1) to access those fantastic fonts. Win3 seems displeased with this concept. The worst case scenario involves memory sharing - GS inhales RAM - and Win3 does not seem pleased - often I have to do some brain salad surgery on other apps to give GS the Ram Headroom it demands for its font cache. Please advise if you have experience with this program - also - if you can share with me the syntax I might use to create an effective PIF file to run GoScript (if it will run under Win3!!) Although the program will never win marathons, the GS output is so gorgeous I'd like to slide it into Windows if possible. Am running an Everex Step 386/25 with Math Co-Processor - AMI Bios. If you need to know more, please message me in this Echo. Also - could you please repeat the coorect file name of that Icon Editor that is so helpful? I guess I've scrunged it! Thanks and "A-River-Dirty" (the Cuyahoga! <<G>> ) --Regards-- Annette Parks HOT NEWS San Francisco --- RBBSMail 17.3A # Origin: REG_10_SDSCoord 1:125/41 415-621-2609 HST/V.32 (RBBS 8:914/201.0) * Origin: Network Gateway to RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) From: Ralf Urbach @ 914/201 To: John Fields Msg #36, 01-Jul-90 08:25pm Subject: Re: *.pif greetigs! thanks for the info on .pif files. later --- RBBSMail 17.3A # Origin: REG_10_SDSCoord 1:125/41 415-621-2609 HST/V.32 (RBBS 8:914/201.0) * Origin: Network Gateway to RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) From: Ted Brengel To: All Msg #37, 01-Jul-90 09:08pm Subject: Windows 3.0 Keyboard Lockout Problem: Windows 3.0 does not accept keyboard input after several minutes running in the Enhanced Mode. Mouse movement and clicking continue to produce the expected results. Standard mode works okay. System: [Dell] PCs Limited 386-16 BIOS: Dell revision E00 (installed last week) RAM: 3 megs Drive: Seagate ST4096 Controller: Perstor 180-16F Video: ATI VGA Wonder (512K) with BIOS V3M-1.03 Can anyone help me with this problem? Ted Brengel --- Msged/Q 1.50L TC-pjm * Origin: Ted's Place in Sunny San Diego (1:202/112.9) From: Herb Kahl To: Ron Cansler Msg #38, 02-Jul-90 06:31am Subject: (r)telix With Windows 3.0 I'm using Windows 3.0 with Telix 3.12 and a Hayes 2400 Baud modem. I do external zmodem protocol from Telix with no problems. Of course I can't toggle to another app without the download stopping, but the transfer starts up again when I come back the Telix. Herb --- RBBSMAIL 15.1C.3 * Origin: System-2 RBBS Since '83!-Norristown PA (215)631-0685 (1:273/714) From: Myron Jordahl To: Sue Coleman, All Msg #39, 02-Jul-90 06:20pm Subject: Win 3.0 and HPLJet II This may have already come up because I recall having seen some reference to problems that people were having with windows and laserjets, but I did not think I had any problem. When I try to print a chart from Excel, the file seems to be created okay (I see it under print manager at about 700k, but when it tries to print, all I get is a single line of garbled text per page, with no reduction in size on the print manager screen. I am using a IBM model 70-A21, a laserjet series II with 1.5 meg of ram and the Z1-A cartridge, about 200 soft fonts, and a swapdisk about 3 megs (2meg real ram). I do have the new disks for Excel that came with windows for 2.1c. A guy from tech support said to try deleting the driver and reinstalling, which is what I had already done to no avail. He did not seem to be much help. I believe I did completely delete the old windows before installing the new. I hope I have given enough info to diagnose the problem. Thanks for your help. I also noticed that if you had one of the group icons activated, that you cannot move between them by just the arrow keys (you could in a Beta version that I saw) as you can when in the group and moving between application icons. Any reason for this? It would sure help on the laptop with no mouse (grin). --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Crystal Palace The Ghost in the Machine (1:382/1.0) From: Herbert Woelffer To: Tim Carter Msg #40, 01-Jul-90 08:11am Subject: Oliver I would like to try out Oliver. Is it released or can I be put on a waiting list. I belive I could give this program a real workout considering the number of messages I read each day. Also since your orgin line does not have your bbs phone number I will need this also. --- FX-BBS V3.0Dr * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. 209-823-0093 [HST] (1:208/204) From: Chris Graham To: Greg Palmer Msg #41, 03-Jul-90 06:00am Subject: Chess and Moku Greg, Sorry I have taken so long to get to you (2 months!), but I only just found a board here that has up to date Windows messages. So I found 6 messages waiting for me all dated around 1/4/90. I have finished Chess for Windows (2 & 3) and I have just uploaded the Windows 2 & 3 version of DemoMoku.Lzh to StingRay! I think the bug you mentioned about the mouse being out, has been fixed. If you want a copy of Chess then contact Solutions at the address given in the closing dialog box. -Chris --- * Origin: Stingray! - Clovis, CA - [209-298-9461] - HST - (Opus 1:205/12) From: Rich Gorin To: John Zucco Msg #42, 02-Jul-90 11:47am Subject: Re:paradise 640x480x256 How do I find out how much memory does sit on my video card? --- via Quickpoint XRS 3.2+ (286) OVL * Origin: Irritable & Unreasonable (Quick 1:125/9.35) From: Rich Gorin To: David Dunning Msg #43, 02-Jul-90 12:57pm Subject: Manuals In a message to All <30 Jun 90 18:40:00> David Dunning wrote: DD> for instance, there is ZIP - NADA - ZERO. It has "Satisfaction DD> Gauranteed" on the cover, but I haven't found an explanation of just DD> what they mean by that. I think it means that they'll still respect you in the morning 8-} --- via Quickpoint XRS 3.2+ (286) OVL * Origin: Irritable & Unreasonable (Quick 1:125/9.35) From: John Herold To: Ivan Schaffel Msg #44, 03-Jul-90 07:32am Subject: Re:communications Under W > >>... Windows DOES NOT support 9600. > > Hmmm... why do you say that? Is that your > > observation, or a published comment? > >Both. If the publication discussed Windows's comms characteristics in any depth, I'd like to read it -- I have a special interest in that. Reference, please? Thanks! >Can you get 1650 cps both transmit and receive? Lessee... that translates to 171%... yes, I've gotten those rates (Binkleyterm 2.30 mail xfers). But: at the cost of nothing else being able to run in the machine. The MS clock's second hand even stops during the xfer. Still workin' on that part... --- QM v1.00 * Origin: King Solomon's Mine Baltimore MD (301)494-1533 (1:261/1023.0) From: John Herold To: Sue Coleman Msg #45, 03-Jul-90 07:33am Subject: Re: GUI feel >John, you forgot to mention virtual memory, the ability to multitask >more than ever before. I didn't mention multitasking re GUI's 'cause y'don't need GUI to multitask. As for multitasking "more than ever before", that may be relative to previous versions of Windows. Not to say GUI is all bad, BTW -- I just think we should keep it in perspective. >Not just "leetle pictures." > >You forgot "Purty Pictures" otherwise known as Wallpaper. Boss to employee: "That's purty, all right... but what does it do for the business?" (But I do like the customizaiton; a little individuality makes things more interesting.) :-)) --- QM v1.00 * Origin: King Solomon's Mine Baltimore MD (301)494-1533 (1:261/1023.0) From: Wes Johnson To: David Dunning Msg #46, 03-Jul-90 09:48am Subject: Ati Drivers DD> Hi. I was hoping someone could tell me where to look on DD> Compuserve for DD> the new ATI VGA WONDER Windows 3.0 drivers. I've looked After signing on, go MSWIN - at last peek, they were in DL1. Hope this helps Wes --- RemoteAccess 0.03 * Origin: WRITER'S BLOCK *An EchoNet BBS* HST (301)945-1540 (1:261/1056) From: Wes Johnson To: All Msg #47, 03-Jul-90 09:53am Subject: UAE's I know some of you have heard me complaining about the UAE's many of us have been experiencing - at the end of last week I began experiencing parity errors on my 386 (noticeable errors with an error message that displays in 40 character screen mode) - had my motherboard replaced yesterday and the UAE problem appears to have virtually disappeared ( hope I'm NOT jinxing myself espousing this.....) - others having substantial UAE problems should run utilities - especially overnight - to determine whether memory errors are at the root of your discontent too!! Wes Johnson --- RemoteAccess 0.03 * Origin: WRITER'S BLOCK *An EchoNet BBS* HST (301)945-1540 (1:261/1056) From: Steve Hecker To: Miles Bosworth Msg #48, 03-Jul-90 04:00pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 Don't think that everyone, or even most people, are having problems with Windows 3.0. There are alot of us who, like you, own it and have no trouble with it. We are, more or less, observers here. In addition, what you are seeing is typical of the introduction of any complex package. Although W3 was in testing for quite a while, you never really find many bugs until a program is released to the general public. --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Law-Line HST (Timonium MD 301 561-0789) (1:261/1024.0) From: Michael Szeller To: John Herold Msg #49, 02-Jul-90 02:24pm Subject: Re: Gui Feel Ah I think I know why the women hate the mouse --- it's because they are taught as little girls to be afraid of mice (eek, eek, it's a mouse). Perhaps if we had named the device a "Cat" it would be better accepted. --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: ONLINE NOW - Thunder Bay ON 8 Lines - 807-345-1531 (229/510) From: Mike Chaffin To: Gary Whalen Msg #50, 01-Jul-90 10:07am Subject: Re: Bitcom and WIN3 GW> I am having trouble with Bitcom under Win3. GW> Bitcom by itself works fine, but under WIN3 it doesn't. I am using an E GW> 2400MNP modem. Terminal will not let me select COMM4 (which the modem GW> and Bitcom doesn't work. GW> Any ideas? Well I don't know if this will help but I am also running a 2400MNP modem on Comm 4. When I upgraded to a 386/25 I reinstalled windows and had a problem like yours. I could use Comm4 in Standard mode but not enhanced. I fixed the problem by adding the port assignments in the system.ini file. The default values were incorrect for the ports. In 386 mode Comm 4 = 2EOh. Mine needed to be 2E8h. Works fine now. I am running Telix in a window right now. --- Paragon v2.06 * Origin: FLYING CIRCUS * Kawkawlin MI * 517-686-0681 HST (1:159/625) From: Mike Chaffin To: Scott Hoffman Msg #51, 01-Jul-90 10:21am Subject: Re: Lock-up running Win 3 in 386 SH> I've tried to install Windows 3 on two 386 machines, one a 16MHz 386SX SH> 2MB of RAM, and also on a 25MHz 386 with 4MB of RAM. On both machines SH> trying to start Windows in the 386 mode, the Microsoft Windows logo wi SH> appear, the hard drive will thrash around for a few seconds, and then SH> machine just locks up. I had a similar problem. I suggest you tell the install program no mouse or make sure your mouse is working fine before you install. I also suggest you experiment with different mouse drivers if you are unsure. Is the mouse the same for both machines? I had a "H" of a time getting mine to work but ... it does. My problem was the mouse and the symtoms you describe are similar to mine. Hope this helps a bit. --- Paragon v2.06 * Origin: FLYING CIRCUS * Kawkawlin MI * 517-686-0681 HST (1:159/625) From: John Zucco To: Rich Gorin Msg #52, 04-Jul-90 12:18pm Subject: Re: Re:paradise 640x480x256 Well Rich, That's a tough one, as most of the Diagnostics I've run still only report 256K even on My 512K card, The easiest way is too open your computer and look at the card, All the Paradise Cards I've seen, (both True and Clone) use 4464 Ram Chips, If you have eight of them, then you have 256K, if you have sixteen, then you have 512K, If you have a genuine Paradise, then you probably can't expand it, but if you have one of the Clone Paradise cards, then you probably have some empty sockets on the Card, and can run down to your local computer store, buy 8 4464 chips and plug them in to get 512K. Happy Clicking, John --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: The Tech-Line, (916)338-1887 Carmichael CA. (1:203/643.0) From: Hubert Lai To: Porter Venn Msg #53, 03-Jul-90 04:46pm Subject: Windows On A 386sx/Dx In a message of <02 Jul 90 13:10:26>, Porter Venn (1:109/220) writes: PV>Does anyone know if windows 3.0 will run differntly on a 386sx as PV>compared to a 386dx? I have a 386sx with 1 meg of RAM, Windows will PV>not allow me to put a non window application in its own window, only PV>Icon. Yet, with my 386dx w 4 megs of RAM I can have a non window app PV>in its own window. (Im using Procom + in both cases). You need at least 2 megs to run in 386 enhanced mode. There is no difference (apart from speed) between the 386DX and the 386SX. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Hubert Lai To: Richard Embry Msg #54, 03-Jul-90 04:50pm Subject: Vga Driver In a message of <02 Jul 90 15:19:00>, Richard Embry (1:130/57) writes: RE>I'm running windows 3.0 in standard VGA and I was wondering were I RE>might Get a driver to run windows in 800x600x16. Where might one be RE>available???? That depends on the make and model of your VGA card. <=- Hubert --- msged 1.99TC/Magnus * Origin: HUB Technologies * The TriNet Consortium * (613)544-6393 (1:249/102) From: Sean Morris To: All Msg #55, 03-Jul-90 10:11pm Subject: Windows 3.0 I just purchased Windows 3.0 and am having trouble setting up the following applications: Turbo Pascal 5.0, Turbo C 2.0, Wordperfect 5.1, PC Tools 6.0. I have a Zenith 386/16 with 4 meg and a VGA monitor. I have created pifs and have tried various combinations for the video mode. It keeps telling when I try to load the programs that I have validated program integrity. Any help?? --- RBBSMAIL 17.2A * Origin: NOVAC 703-256-4777 - Northern VA Astronomy Club (RBBS-PC 1:109/118) From: Tc Cheng To: John Zucco Msg #56, 29-Jun-90 12:37pm Subject: Gif 2 Bmp >> use Paintbrush to retrieve the PCX picture. >> This method only gets you 16 colors. Until a paint program JZ> Windows Paint Does support 256 Colors, At least on My system with JZ> Western Digitals 256c Drivers... John: When running Windows Paint with 256c driver, does the pallette at the bottom of the screen display all 256 colors? TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: John Herold Msg #57, 29-Jun-90 01:15pm Subject: GUI feel JH> I'm beginning to wonder if it's we tekkie/wgee whiz types who really JH> go gung-ho for GUI just 'cause it's there and different. I have yet JH> to find a person in my office who prefers it to the simple, JH> easy-to-use menu text based menu system we currently have... John: I agree with you about the simplified operation keyboard offers and the simple, easy-to-use menu text based system that DOS offers. And I won't argue with about the convience of GUIs. Or multitasking. Or DDE. But there is 1 advantage Windows, OS/2, DV, or any operating system similiar to these 3 offers--unification. 1 driver for video, 1 for printer, 1 for mouse (sometimes), and EVERY application uses the same drivers. All apps can access all the fonts avaliable on your printer if your driver is right. I had pains with my DOS apps, for 123 had no DeskJet driver and embedding font def codes in worksheets is too much of a hassle. Only wp can use my printer at full power. Only WP had driver fro my Svga card. Not 123. Not all the utilities. Not even my paint program... I always wished for a version of DOS that uses this unified driver scheme. And I'm growin white hairs waiting for it. So I use Windows. TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: Kevin Cook Msg #58, 29-Jun-90 01:24pm Subject: System Config. KC> device = c:\Windows\smartdrv.sys 1792 256 KC> I imagine there may be a couple of wizards out there that may be KC> able to even think of a better way to do this. 1792k cache! On a machine with 2Mb of RAM? I think you meant 2Mb of extended RAM. If so, why not set the number to 1984k (2048-64k for HIMEM)? Please correct me if I am wrong. TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: Hakim Madjid Msg #59, 29-Jun-90 01:28pm Subject: 3.0 pains HM> Yup you're right - you need the external mouse driver to get stuff HM> like Quick Basic and WP 5.1 to talk to the mouse when running under HM> Windows 3. I don't know if this is true for all the various brands HM> of mice, but Win3 seems to be just as happy if I load MOUSE.COM HM> instead of MOUSE.SYS, (I have a logitech 3 - button mouse), though I HM> suspect it is a bit more legal and HM> standard to use the device driver. Oh well. HM> - Hakim - WordPerfect 5.1 does NOT need MOUSE.COM nor MOUSE.SYS to use a mouse. Configure the mouse (Shift-F1, Mouse, Type) to Logitech Bus Mouse and the little square swims around your screen in full screen mode... You need MOUSE.COM for other DOS apps though. You DON't need MOUSE.COM nor MOUSE.SYS for Windows 3 itself. (Hubert told me that!) ...It's burning in Los Angeles! TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: Stacy Rothwell Msg #60, 29-Jun-90 01:32pm Subject: Installing Windows 3.0 SR> I have a 296N with the crappy little ST-02 and my maching kept dying SR> on me. It now seems stable (although I SR> haven't tested it for more than a day). SR> stacy Stacy: Does the ST-02 have a AT interface or PC interface? I am considering the ST-02 and the ST296N. Would you recommend it for Windows? Thanks. TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: Gary Whalen Msg #61, 29-Jun-90 01:44pm Subject: Bitcom and WIN3 GW> I am having trouble with Bitcom under Win3. GW> Bitcom by itself works fine, but under WIN3 it doesn't. I am using GW> an EVEREX 2400MNP modem. Terminal will not let me select COMM4 GW> (which the modem is on), and Bitcom doesn't work. GW> Any ideas? GW> Thanks. Windwos does not support COM4 well. Use COM1 or 2. Bitcom? Swithc to Telix, Procomm, for Unicom! Merry Modeming (alliteration). TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Tc Cheng To: Hubert Lai Msg #62, 29-Jun-90 01:46pm Subject: Hi-Res Wallpaper HL> Has anyone had any success in creating and using 1024x768x16 HL> wallpaper? I've had no problem in the past creating and using HL> 800x600x16 images, but I can't get 1024x768x16 images to work. I HL> can save the image as a BMP fine -- the problem is that Control HL> Panel can't seem to use it. Does Windows allocate enough memory to accomadte 1kx768 BMPs in the first place? (I dont' think this matters anyways) May be this is the cause of the problem. I have an ATI 512 running at 800x600 (no $ for NEC 3D!), and I can create 800x600x16 wallpapers and display them with no errors. I still think its the memory problem. TC --- via RA/XRS 3.2 (286) * Origin: Programmers Exchange BBS 9600 HST <El Monte, CA> (RAX 1:102/770.23) From: Nick Baroque To: All Msg #63, 02-Jul-90 12:35pm Subject: SMARTDrive Just a note to tell you all that the cache from Mace doesn't work with windows except in Real Mode. THis is too bad, as it's TONS faster than SMARTDrive. Does anyone know of a decent cache that works with Windows 3, besides "SMART"Drive? Hopefully that sizes itself as memory is needed by programs? Cheers! --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: ShelterThe World. The Time Is Now (1:102/825) From: Nick Baroque To: Southern California Windows People Msg #64, 02-Jul-90 12:41pm Subject: FREQ-ing Out Are there any BBS-es that carry shareware/PD programs for Windows 3 in the Southern California area? Cheers! --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: ShelterThe World. The Time Is Now (1:102/825) From: Sysop Jerk To: All Msg #65, 03-Jul-90 08:00am Subject: Unrecoverable Program Error I seem to be getting considerable amounts of unrecoverable errors when using WinWord under Windows 3 on a 286 machine with 2meg of mem in standard mode. Most of the errors occur when attempting to cut and paste to clipboard or format character styles. Has anyone had simular problems or know what can be done? It's gotten so bad I've had to revert to using Real Mode, hence loseing the main advantaGE OF wIN 3....MEMORY. I have installed a number of device drivers needed for system operation..mouse.com...X00.SYS....VFOS_IBM (the last two needed for use by my BBS operating under Binkley) Smartdrv.sys but no standard TSR type programs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks....Bill Goldstein.....SYSOP...."Goldsteins Folly" (awaiting node number, please send answers care of Node 1:102/521 --- Echodor v3.02 * Origin: Goldstein's (1:-1/-1.0) From: Lois Frankel To: John Bascue Msg #66, 02-Jul-90 10:25pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 & Dos Ok, but how do you do that if your bios doesn't support your hard drive? I have to use the firmware on my Adaptec controller board to partition mine, which means bypassing the info in the bios. Now I hear that if I try to install win3 on my system it won't install, and may in fact trash data on my partitions. Do I have to buy a new bios or a new computer? By the way, it wouldn't even install properly on a computer with 2 physical hard drives, neither of them partitioned, on a 286 with 1 meg and a hercules monitor. Had to use the /i switch to setup at all, and it still crashes on exit. I get "Unrecoverable application error" if I try to load himem.sys. I may leave the whole thing on the shelf till I get a 386 (hopefully within a few months). --- * Origin: SVC DeskTop Central *(719)634-1115* (Opus 1:128/40) From: Leslie Ramdeen To: Roman Redl Msg #67, 04-Jul-90 02:50am Subject: Re: The Race For New Drivers Is On My manual is as silent as yours. I give up trying to find the support number for the card. Every one seem to be low on support these days. Microsoft had me waiting for 45 mins , my cost, and could not help me. I have an ATI wonder 512K and is using it with a Nec 4d monitor. The windows that opens up eith non- win3.0 apps takes up slightly over a quarter of the screen. I have not been able to increase the window size using any of the standard methods. I was told by Microsoft to speak to ATI. I have not done so as yet. --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Message Exchange (301) 855-0339. Huntingtown, Maryland. (109/220) From: Jordan Rosenberg @ 914/201 To: All Msg #68, 03-Jul-90 08:57am Subject: User Group San Francisco Business Computers ... July General Meeting, 7/24/90, tuesday, 5:30 pm ... Donatello Hotel, Post and Mason, off Union Square ... featured speaker: Richard Landry, Ed)tor in ⇨hief, P⇨ World ... to0ic: "Hi$den Costs of Personal C/mputing" ... !ll are 7elcome ... Do.atello ✓otel, P/st and ason, off Union Square --- R⇩BSMail 17.3A # Origin: REG_10_SDSCoord 1:125/41 415-621-2609 ✓ST/V.32 (RBBS 8:914/201.0) * Origin: Network Gateway to RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) From: El Barto To: All Msg #69, 04-Jul-90 03:42am Subject: Bugs in Windows 3.0 What bugs have you guys found with windows 3.0? i am brand new to this conference, and i myself have found quite a few! later --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Boundary BBS (1:103/910.0) From: Al Chavez To: David Rinehart Msg #70, 02-Jul-90 07:21am Subject: Re: Windows 3.0, BBS, and HST * Replying to a message originally to John Reynolds DR> (After all, not EVERYONE is as addicted to modeming as the DR> folks around here. grin) DR> True... that's a fact... We are probably an extreme. DR> Your friends aren't the only ones working on a Windows BBS. DR> Give it 6 months to a year and I suspect we'll see several Yes... however, until MS resolves the issue of being able to communicate at high speeds reliably without taking over the entire machine, all development will be useless. --- RA 0.03/DBridge/Desqview * Origin: I love my GUI! (1:266/901) From: Bob Germer To: Robert Jacobson Msg #71, 03-Jul-90 07:37am Subject: Windows 3.0 On <Mon. Jul. 02, 1990> Robert Jacobson (1:141/205) wrote to All: RJ=>Well, my eagerly awaited 3.0 disks finally arrived from Microsoft. As RJ=>usual, they were ****** up. The first disk kept returning numerous RJ=>unrevcoverable read errors. Yes, they'll send me new ones. But it will RJ=>only take two weeks. Can anyone compress and upload me disk #1 (the RJ=>360K has three files on it) so that I can get this thing installed?? Uh, seems maybe you might be a bit confused. My windows 3.0 came on seven, count 'em seven, 1.2 meg disks. Bob Germer --- msged 1.999.9 * Origin: The Capital City BBS (1:266/21) From: Don Nelson To: Kevin Payne Msg #72, 02-Jul-90 02:22pm Subject: Disk formatting > I have two floppies, a 5.25 and 3.5. If I have up two DOS Command > windows, I seem to be able to format both floppies simultaneously. > So far, I've only done a few, and while I've had one "Program > Violated System Integrety" error, for the most part it seems to > work. The question is, is this smart? How can the floppy > controller format two drives simultaneously? I think this is > asking for trouble, but am curious as to what others think.... > From my experinces, this leads to formatted floppies that are unreliable. I haven't done this with Windows, but with Desqview & DoubleDos. From what I can gather from the errors that I was getting is that the drives is not formatting a sector, but also doesn't mark it as bad. I figured this out after formatting how you describe above, then running Pctools surface analysis on the floppy. It always found one or two bad areas(sometimes more). If I then did a standard format (either plain DOS or with no other windows running) every thing worked out fine. .dn --- FD 1.99c * Origin: FD + RBBS = MICRO BITS (303)791-0630 (1:104/811.1) From: Robert Ton To: Hubert Lai Msg #73, 02-Jul-90 04:08pm Subject: Re: Unrecoverable Application Errors > is no reason to deny access to Mark30 to all users. I agree - but haven't seen the program. Most of what I read here is on the order of "I marked it and it doesn't work." Point being it is not a cure-all for upward compatibility. You understand this, but many don't. I guess I should go back in the closet - I also hate to read the documentation.... -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Hakim Madjid Msg #74, 02-Jul-90 04:13pm Subject: Re: "Unrecoverable Application Errors Hakim- The problem with register dumps, etc., is that it takes a phenominal amount of time to track this data to the source of the error in most cases. Especially in protected mode, where the "segments" are really selectors, and can't be equated to anything without knowing much more about the state of the machine when it crashed. A hard way to debug code. Again, I wish MS would release the Windows SDK so I could talk more freely about this... -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Hakim Madjid Msg #75, 02-Jul-90 04:20pm Subject: Re: Unrecoverable Application Errors Hakim- You mention publishers (he he)... The only magazine I still pay for is PC Magazine - their latest issue debates the Novell/Lotus merger (which was squashed at least 3 weeks ago) and their new (?) Windows section is still stuck on Version 2.0. Outside of OS/2, where are you finding all of this protected mode info (serious question - I'm interested). Got a trial copy of From: Robert Ton To: Morrie Wilson Msg #76, 02-Jul-90 04:24pm Subject: Re: Unrecoverable Application Errors Morrie- I stand corrected on the MARK30 program. My apologies if my comments offended anyone... -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Wes Johnson Msg #77, 02-Jul-90 04:31pm Subject: Re: "Unrecoverable Application Error Wes- You should NOT be getting these errors running software bundled with Windows 3. We've run Solitare in all 3 modes and have never had a problem (outside of losing the game frequently). Could it be that Windows 3 is exercising a part of your hardware that hasn't been used before? Grabbing at straws here... -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Wes Johnson Msg #78, 02-Jul-90 04:35pm Subject: Re: "Unrecoverable Application Errors" Wes- Do the UAE's go away if you use the VGA driver that comes with Windows 3? I'm using this driver on a Paradise VGA card at work and on an Orchid Designer 800 VGA card at home. Both systems appear to be crash-proof except when I'm testing software. Not up on the ATI card, but I assume it'll run under the standard driver. -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Kevin Payne Msg #79, 02-Jul-90 04:55pm Subject: Re: Disk Formatting Kevin- You're beginning to see why everyone's having problems with device drivers. There's no reason that a properly written driver can't allow you to format both drives at the same time (I'll have to try this!!), but it'll probably take longer than formatting the disks one at a time. Windows 3.0 and OS/2 contain the arbitration to make this "legal." Of course, it's an illusion - the floppy controller only has one DMA channel and one interrupt, so data is only transferring to/from one drive at a time. The controller can only handle the drives one at a time, as you suggest. I'd bet that the in-use lights even switch between the drives, but probably not. If I remember right, both drives can be selected while only one is actually being used. If so, using both drives shouldn't be much slower than formatting one at a time... -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Robert Ton To: Joseph Mis Msg #80, 02-Jul-90 04:58pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 And Alr Flex Cache20386 Joseph- Tell me more about your Novell problem!!! Can I call my distributor and "get the fix?" Novell under 386 Enhanced (and Standard) mode is a basket case but seems okay under real mode (old IPX and NETx). -rt --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Rocky Mtn Info Exchange Parker, CO (303) 841-9570 (1:104/739) From: Chu Son To: Mark Bacas Msg #81, 03-Jul-90 07:13am Subject: Re: "unrecoverable Application Errors" Remember the hDC Windows Manager? Same thing. It has Autosave, Art Gallery, Memory Viewer, Font Viewer and such. It nice. --- ZMailQ 1.12 (QuickBBS) * Origin: The Silver Hammer - Aurora, Co. (303) 367-9701 (1:104/518.0) From: Don Nelson To: Ivan Schaffel Msg #82, 03-Jul-90 04:33pm Subject: Re:windows 3 > > WIN 3. I have learned one thing from this. Never, > > Never, NEVER buy any > > software that's new.......Let others have the > > Actually, the proper phrase is, "don't buy software with a > versionnumber ending in zero." --:) But they all end in zero. Windows 3.100000 for example!! --- FD 1.99c * Origin: FD + RBBS = MICRO BITS (303)791-0630 (1:104/811.1) From: Don Nelson To: Rich Gorin Msg #83, 03-Jul-90 04:52pm Subject: 'windows 3.0' > > I loaded the 800x600x16 driver and then loaded the 8514 fonts as > someone here suggested. The combination was simple enough for > even me to deal with and the results are quite good. > I did this, do you get color in the paintbrush program?? All I get is different shades of gray. I reinstalled the standard 800X600X16 fonts and everything worked fine. What gives?? --- FD 1.99c * Origin: FD + RBBS = MICRO BITS (303)791-0630 (1:104/811.1) From: Tony Davis To: Murray Morris Msg #84, 03-Jul-90 08:12pm Subject: Re: Re:communications Under W MM> I would think it would be odd if windows didn't support 9600 MM> because if I'm not mistaken don't the comm ports automatically start at MM> 9600 in the .ini file? Did you say yours was running at 19200? Yes. Tony --- D'Bridge * Origin: Teleco USA - America's Business Telephone Company (Fidonet 1:19/3) From: Kevin Cook To: Roman Redl Msg #85, 03-Jul-90 03:43am Subject: Command Post > Can anybody explain to, what the hell command post is > ? I haven't seen anything like that in my windows (3.0 of course). Roman, Command Post is a nice File Manager/Menu Manager/Program Manager/??? for Windows. It is written by Morrie Wilson whom I'm sure you have seen post here. It is available for file request here or you may be able to find it a little closer to home. Hope this helps. --- TPBoard 6.2 * Origin: U wanna run WHAT...under Windows? (1:130/57) From: Steve York To: Vincent Tumminello Msg #86, 02-Jul-90 12:45pm Subject: Windows 3.0 VT said > the program. When using Print Manager, it takes about VT said > 15 seconds after VT said > the print command is given for the printer to begin. VT said > By the way I am VT said > running Windows 3.0 with a 386-20 machine and am using VT said > a Panasonic VT said > kx-p1124 printer in draft mode. Will this always run VT said > this slow or is VT said > there a was to get it to run any faster? VT said > * Origin: "La. Medsig" Harahan, La (1:396/28.0) I suspect that what you're experiencing is the delay as the print data is transfered to from the application to the Print Manager. Once the data transfer is completed, the application is no longer "busy" (you can return to your work) and the Print Manager sits in the background eating up your spare cycles and printing as fast as it can. You can take Print Manager out of the loop and allow your applications to print directly (there is a line in WIN.INI for this). This will remove the initial delay in printing, but overall things won't print much faster, and you'll be back in DOS land waiting for the print run to complete so you can go back to work (or playing Solitaire). That delay is your friend. :) --- RemoteAccess 0.03+ * Origin: We Do Windows! Not Macros! <206-883-1383> (1:343/105) From: Jeff Gold To: All Msg #87, 02-Jul-90 12:10pm Subject: File Manager Thought I'd alert you'all before you get the same nasty suprise I just had. When deleting files in the File Manager be careful about selecting sub-dirs and [.] as FM will delete them.. . Some fun. --- D'Bridge B1026/07T * Origin: The Boardwalk! - Federal Way, WA - (206) 941-3124 (1:343/47) From: Bill Duncan To: Scott Lewis Msg #88, 02-Jul-90 05:42pm Subject: Problem #3 Scott, try pulling down the HHlp menu in Program MGR , File MGR or the file menu7 in MSDOS.EXE. Then do an "about". This will show the amount of free memeory ... and If win3 is like win2.xx it will free up some as well. Hope this helps. I have seen several 'free memopry programs' which gross differences in the amount of free memory available. I sti8ck with the WINdows methods because they are at least consistant. --- RemoteAccess 0.03+ * Origin: We Do Windows! Not Macros! <206-883-1383> (1:343/105) From: Bill Duncan To: Paul Sinclair Msg #89, 02-Jul-90 05:53pm Subject: Win 3.0 Jumping between tasks greetings, and YES compacting your hard drive will mack very much or a difference if things are badly fragmented. Also a DiskCache such as Smart drive will speed things along nicely. I compact my drives every few days...but I add and delete a great many files also... --- RemoteAccess 0.03+ * Origin: We Do Windows! Not Macros! <206-883-1383> (1:343/105) From: Sue Coleman To: Robert Ton Msg #90, 02-Jul-90 06:19pm Subject: Windows 3 / Novell Have you upgraded your network shell to 3.01? Sue --- RemoteAccess 0.03+ * Origin: We Do Windows! Not Macros! <206-883-1383> (1:343/105) From: Morrie Wilson To: Vincent Tumminello Msg #91, 02-Jul-90 03:50pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 > I have just started using Windows 3.0 and am wonring if > anyone is > having similar problems. This may not be a problem but > just a quirk of > the program. When using Print Manager, it takes about 15 > seconds after > the print command is given for the printer to begin. By Only 15 seconds. Wow (tongue in cheek)!. Actually this is the way it works. You may prefer to run without print manager. The 15 seconds is printet manager getting loaded, getting the spooler started, and for the app to trasfer the first page completely to the spooler before the print manager actually starts print of the page on the printer. --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: Morrie Wilson To: Scott Lewis Msg #92, 02-Jul-90 04:14pm Subject: Re: running dos apps in a > combination I can > MK>>think of. It still refuses to start up in a window > -- gives me a > MK>>message saying it cannot run in background or in a > window -- that it > MK>>can be displayed in a window, but will be suspended > until run > MK>>full-screen. As I mentioned, once I initiate the > program full-screen, > MK>>I can switch to a window where it continues to run > successfully. Have > MK>>you yourself had any luck running a DOS app in a window? Methinks you are on the lower edge of available memory. I've heard of a few people who added some memory (or deleted smartdrv, etc) and their machines recovered. --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: Morrie Wilson To: Ron Mckenzie Msg #93, 02-Jul-90 06:51pm Subject: Re: A Win2.1 or 3 Scrn Capture Utility? > I need a utility to capture screens while I'm running Win. > (Presently, I use Win2.1 and expect to be on 3.0 within > 2 weeks.) What do you know that works under either or both > WinVersion? Where can it be had? If shareware, please > include the net/node & pswd for f'request. Thanks!! Well in WIndows 3.0, witenuf memoey, just shiftprntscrn (or is alt- prntscrn) will copy your screen to the clipboard. Then you can suck it into Paintbrush and make a PCX file out of it. Other than that (I know on no shareware apps) there are the commercial apps, DoDot and Tiffany Plus. (I like Tiffany+ myself) --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: Morrie Wilson To: Howard Brazee Msg #94, 02-Jul-90 06:54pm Subject: Re: Screen blanker > My screen blanker went on while I was in Windows, and I > hit a key to restore the screen. Nonething happened. > I hit several keys to no avail. Hitting Alt-F4 did something > (my hard drive moved), but I could not get my screen back. > I am using the screen blanker which came with my Video-7 > VEGA EGA card. > > Is there some conflict with Windows? Yes Yes YES. Most (if not absolutely ALL) DOS based screen blankers are incompatible with WIndows. There are several Windows screen blankers available. Magic (shareware) $20? Screen Peace (charityware -> Green Peace) $10? Command Post menu system (shareware) has a screen blanker in it $49.95 hDC Express and/or hDC FirstApps (retail) both include a blanker $99.95 each I think one of Art Metz's windows utilites is a screen blanker too shareware $20 Check your local Windows boards, or Compuserve (MSWIN or WINAPA) for Windows shareware... Good Luck --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: Morrie Wilson To: David Dunning @ 914/201 Msg #95, 02-Jul-90 07:08pm Subject: Re: Ati Drivers > Hi. I was hoping someone could tell me where to look on > Compuserve for > the new ATI VGA WONDER Windows 3.0 drivers. I've looked > everywhere I Look in the MSWIN forum, either in DL1 (new uploads) or in the "drivers" DL. The WINAPB forum also has a section for third party (party? where) drivers. --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: Morrie Wilson To: Miles Bosworth Msg #96, 02-Jul-90 07:15pm Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 > After running it for several days now I really have a problem > with all the negative feedback I see on this echo. Windows > 3.0 is far superior to 2.xx and I am able to run many programs > that I could not get to run under my old 2.xx version, > such as Publish It! > What is it about a new product that brings out all the > negative aspects of people? I have had no problems AT > ALL with 3.0 and am tickled to death with it. I am tired > of everyone running it down because their machine doesn't > seem to get along too well with Windows 3.0. Or trying > to squeeze out 386 Enhanced Mode performance from either > a 286 or a 386 with 640K. Not to mention old buggy versions > of Intel's 386. I love Windows 3.0. But the basic problem is that there are *lots* of machines, regarded as rather trusty over the years, that just fall apart for various insundry reasons when Win3.0 hits. Imagine your 3 year old machine, which perfectly runs *every* DOS application you ever loaded. You load 3.0, and it crashes. Makes people unhappy with 3.0 I know 486 owners with 10MB of memory who cannot run WIN3.0 for various reasons. --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Wilson WindowWare via SeaSoftNet (1:343/8.16) From: David Ruggiero To: Murray Morris Msg #97, 03-Jul-90 12:39am Subject: Re: Icon editor Thanks for the answer...yes, I'm running a 286 with a Video7 EGA card. Sue and various folks have also indicated that the developer has never tested the icon editor under EGA, and so that may answer it. Does *everybody* have VGA except me these days? Sigh... --- RemoteAccess 0.03+ * Origin: We Do Windows! Not Macros! <206-883-1383> (1:343/105) From: Ivan Schaffel To: Mark Bacas Msg #98, 02-Jul-90 10:50pm Subject: Re:communications Under W > IS> There is nothing probably conflicting with his > systen. Windows > DOES > IS> NOT support 9600. > Look again Ivan, under the windows control panel you > can set com ports > to 19200. Yup, that's what is *says* NOT what it does. --- VPurge [DOS] V4.05 * Origin: Ye Olde Libraerie (1:141/390) From: Ivan Schaffel To: Jim Heath Msg #99, 03-Jul-90 02:06am Subject: Re:win 3/telix Comm > HL> JH>I'd have a problem with that since Binkley > requires stacks to > HL> be 18,256 > HL> My Binkley has been running with 0,0 for years > now... > Why 0,0... I 'read' the bink docs and somewhere in the > setup it > suggested the 18,256.... Any ideas on the ^^^^^^^^^ > differences???? It is *suggested* ONLY if there is a problem running Bink. No problem, no stacks necessary. Stacks 0,0 running here since Bink version 1.0. --- VPurge [DOS] V4.05 * Origin: Ye Olde Libraerie (1:141/390) From: Ivan Schaffel To: All Msg #100, 03-Jul-90 02:10am Subject: Printer Port I have only one active printer port, but I *need* to redirect the output to LPT3: Windows says I don't have an lpt3, true, and won't let me continue installation of my printer on that port. Any suggestions? Remember, I need lpt3 and lpt3 only, for my application which works fine under dos/wp51 or dv/wp51. --- VPurge [DOS] V4.05 * Origin: Ye Olde Libraerie (1:141/390) From: Hsiaowen Lin To: All Msg #101, 02-Jul-90 12:55pm Subject: Help Hi! It seems to me that Win 3.0 has different limits on the number of groups for different mode. For example, I found the limit for real mode is 9 and more than 12 in 386 mode. Can any one tell me how can I change those number ? i.e., how can I use more than 10 groups in real mode ? I have a 386 with 4 M ram. Thanks! --- Opus-CBCS 1.13 * Origin: Icarus: Iowa City - Go Hawkeyes (1:283/657.0) From: Larry Gutter To: Jim Boughton Msg #102, 03-Jul-90 11:18am Subject: Road Show They just did one in Boston a week or two ago, but I did see a mailing about another one coming. Will try to find the schedule and post it. --- TMail v1.15 * Origin: BCS IBM BBS on Cape Cod @ 508-833-1794 (1:101/870) From: Larry Gutter To: Scott Lewis Msg #103, 03-Jul-90 11:32am Subject: Re: Problem #2 Terrific...I just bought the same combination...$$ being the primary decider. Couldn't resist the SCSI HD for little more than the 2 floppy ports (which is what I really needed). Will follow this thread to see what I'm in for. Keep those cards and letters coming in, boys and girls. --- TMail v1.15 * Origin: BCS IBM BBS on Cape Cod @ 508-833-1794 (1:101/870) From: Larry Gutter To: Scott Lewis Msg #104, 03-Jul-90 11:35am Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 Backdrop Love following this thread. Just got a no-name Paradise clone card with 256K. Starting to sound like I should get the other 256KB on board... --- TMail v1.15 * Origin: BCS IBM BBS on Cape Cod @ 508-833-1794 (1:101/870) From: Larry Gutter To: Ivan Schaffel Msg #105, 03-Jul-90 11:37am Subject: Re:Windows 3 particularly 1.0 versions of anything... --- TMail v1.15 * Origin: BCS IBM BBS on Cape Cod @ 508-833-1794 (1:101/870) From: Frank Chamberlin To: Miles Bosworth Msg #106, 03-Jul-90 05:41am Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 I agree with you, Miles, on the great features of Windows 3.0. However, nothing is perfect & I'm sure most of the negative comments are things that may not be quite right or should/could be added/changed. No product is ever perfect===there is still one that will better it some day. FRANK --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Phoenix System Havelock, NC WILDCAT^2 (1:3614/505.0)