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From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: TidBITS#202/15-Nov-93
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 93 21:20:09 PDT

TidBITS#202/15-Nov-93
=====================

Apple experiments with new varieties of the Macintosh this month,
   so we have a report on the Macintosh TV and the Quadra 610, DOS
   Compatible, which wins the worst name of the year award. Andrew
   Johnston reviews the powerful and popular BBEdit, Mark Anbinder
   explains some of the issues behind FirstClass bounces, and
   readers provide various useful comments, such as international
   availability of the Color It deal.

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Topics:
    MailBITS/15-Nov-93
    Macintosh Quadra 610, DOS Compatible
    Dreaded NDN Revisited
    Macintosh TV: It Slices, It Dices
    BBEdit: Not Quite Bare Bones
    Reviews/15-Nov-93

[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-202.etx; 30K]


MailBITS/15-Nov-93
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  This issue comes a day early since I'm spending much of the week
  at the Association for Computing Machinery Conference on Hypertext
  here in Seattle. Monday night I hope to attend a reception in
  honor of Ted Nelson, the father of hypertext and creator of the
  Xanadu system. If you want to read more about Ted Nelson and
  Xanadu, I suggest you dig back into the TidBITS archives for
  TidBITS #30_, in which Ian Feldman focused on Xanadu. And of
  course, I'll have a report on the entire conference, probably in
  next week's issue.


**Mark H. Anbinder** <[e-mail]> writes:
  Thanks are due to several alert readers who let us know that the
  lack of FPU on the low-end Quadra 610 model only appears to affect
  Apple U.S.A. customers. The internationally-available Quadra 610
  4/160, popular in higher-education programs overseas, sports a
  complete 68040 processor. As far as we can determine, only the
  U.S. Quadra 610 8/160 has a 68LC040 processor.


**Chris Jackson** <[e-mail]> writes:
  I recently discovered that MicroFrontier offers their special
  pricing to international customers as well (see TidBITS #199_).
  The international price for Color It is $15, which includes
  shipping, as opposed to the $8.37 it costs in the U.S.
  MicroFrontier -- 800/949-5555 -- 515/270-8109 -- 515/278-6828
  (fax)


**Communicate Coughing** -- If you try the Communicate Lite demo
  mentioned in TidBITS #199_, and you leave it connected but idle in
  the background, it will make a slight coughing noise every five
  minutes to let you know you are still connected, much as AppleLink
  does. The reminder helps you to avoid running up a phone bill or
  running down a PowerBook battery. If you don't like the sound, you
  can turn it off, pick another one, or increase the time between
  reminders.


Macintosh Quadra 610, DOS Compatible
------------------------------------
  Trivia quiz for the week time... Can you place these quotes?

    "It can run Mac software at about the speed of a IIcx,
     PC software at the speed of a 33 MHz 386 clones..."

    "Apple decided to take advantage of their "MacOS Blue"
     project and the ready availability of inexpensive
     Pentiums (Intel's trade name for the processor commonly
     but incorrectly known as the 586) by shipping an
     Intel-based Macintosh late this summer."

  Unless you search way back in TidBITS, you probably won't the
  first quote, since it came from TidBITS #52_, whereas the second
  quote came from TidBITS #171_, a more recent issue. The main thing
  these two quotes share is that they're fake - they were both April
  Fool jokes, the first one in 1991, the second one in 1993.

  It's said that life imitates art, and if so Mark and I have earned
  our artistic licenses. On Monday, Apple will announce the Quadra
  610, DOS Compatible. That's what I've heard it's called, which is
  even stupider than other names Apple has thought up recently, but
  there's still hope that our advance information from Pythaeus
  isn't quite correct on that account.

  The specs Pythaeus reported are real though, and we're talking
  about a 25 MHz 68LC040 (the one without the FPU) and a 25 MHz
  486SX (which is roughly comparable). We're still not sure to what
  extent the two environments can interact in terms of sharing RAM,
  copying information, etc., but if you have a single monitor you
  can switch between Mac and DOS with a keystroke, and if you have
  two monitors (it doesn't require an additional video card) you can
  view both environments at the same time. The machine supports
  standard VGA, SVGA, and multisync monitors as well as normal
  Macintosh monitors, but the specifics are still masked.

  The machine includes MS-DOS 6 (hopefully 6.2, which is supposedly
  less prone to snacking on your hard disk if you use its built-in
  compression) but no mention was made of Windows. The two
  configurations of the machine (notice how I'm actively trying to
  avoid typing that awful name) include an 8/160 with Ethernet and
  an 8/230/CD with Ethernet and an FPU. The only special port that
  the machine includes is a PC joystick port.

  For existing owners of the Centris 610 or Quadra 610, the DOS
  Compatibility Card for Macintosh provides similar functionality.
  No word about support for other models, not even the 660AV, which
  shares the 610 case. It's entirely likely that the machine is an
  experiment, much like the Macintosh TV (see below), and should it
  prove a successful one we'll undoubtedly see more blue blood in
  this vein from Apple.

  Pricing for the machine is rumored at about $500 more than the
  price of a comparable Quadra 610, so one would assume that the
  stand-alone card will cost somewhere around $500 as well.

  Unfortunately, this article, which includes everything we know at
  the moment, asks more questions than it answers, so we'll all have
  to wait for those answers to appear.

  Information from:
    Pythaeus


Dreaded NDN Revisited
---------------------
  by Mark H. Anbinder, News Editor -- [e-mail]
     Technical Support Coordinator, BAKA Computers

  Although Maury Markowitz's article on avoiding non-delivery
  notices (NDNs) on FirstClass systems (see TidBITS #199_) has some
  useful suggestions, a bit more explanation might be in order so
  that FirstClass administrators can make educated decisions on
  what's right for their systems.

* Expiry dates should be set such that the contents of a
  conference or folder won't be unwieldy to the new user, but more
  importantly so that the conference won't overflow. FirstClass has
  a limit of 1,024 items in a single conference, so if a mailing
  list or USENET newsgroup carries heavy traffic, it will fill up
  quickly, and messages beyond the limit will be rewarded with NDNs
  sent to the confused message senders. Allowing busy newsgroups'
  messages to expire in a couple of days is appropriate. For low-
  traffic mailing lists such as the TidBITS distribution list, an
  expiry length of weeks or months is not unreasonable.

* Placing "Internet" and "Contributor" on the first line of the
  Permissions screen for an Internet conference is a good
  generalization, but won't be suitable for every system. If your
  conferences, by default, allow unrestricted message posting,
  that's plenty. If you wish to restrict posting at all, though,
  your Internet gateway must indeed have posting privileges
  explicitly assigned, and of course if your Internet gateway has a
  name other than "Internet" you must use the correct name. The
  permission list must go from highest privileges to lowest or no
  privileges.

* If a message comes to a FirstClass server from another
  FirstClass server that received it from the Internet, both the
  FirstClass gateway and the local Internet gateway (if the
  destination server has one) need posting privileges.

* Do indeed make sure you have a conference named "JunkNews" if
  you are using one of the PostalUnion gateways from Information
  Electronics. If you are using another gateway product, follow its
  instructions to accommodate  incoming USENET news articles that
  have no place to go.

* Regardless of your gateway software, you should have a user,
  mailing list, or conference named "Postmaster" that receives
  messages sent to that address at your Internet site. (This is a
  network standard address for sending error reports or
  administrative messages to a site.)


Macintosh TV: It Slices, It Dices
---------------------------------
  Is Macintosh TV the wave of the future for the next generation of
  Macintosh-using couch potatoes? Or is it merely a special edition
  gimmick that will run afoul of societal customs? That's what Apple
  intends to find out.

  Macintosh TV combines a IIvx-class Macintosh with a color
  television monitor. The Macintosh details include a 32 MHz 68030
  (no word on the speed of the data bus, the albatross slung around
  the neck of the IIvx) with 5 MB of RAM, a SuperDrive, and a 160 MB
  hard disk. The hard disk is no doubt standard, but Apple limited
  RAM expandability to 8 MB, which is pure idiocy in today's world
  where 8 MB is rapidly becoming a realistic minimum configuration.
  I suspect that the 5 MB comes in the form of 4 MB soldered on and
  a 1 MB SIMM in a single slot, but I can't imagine why Apple would
  prevent you from putting an 8 MB or 16 MB SIMM in that slot. It's
  also unclear which motherboard model Apple used - only the
  original PowerBooks were limited to 8 MB of RAM, but none used 32
  MHz processors.

  Like the Performas, Macintosh TV comes with various pieces of
  bundled software, including ClarisWorks 2.0 (perfect for many
  students), the American Heritage Electronic Dictionary, Mavis
  Beacon Teaches Typing, HomeWork Templates, and the Performa Click
  Art Collection. Bundled CD-ROMs include Grolier's Multimedia
  Encyclopedia, World Atlas, Space Shuttle, Wonders of the World
  (Volume I), Time Almanac 1993, and the Kodak Photo CD Sampler.

  The television is a 14" color Sony Trinitron display capable of
  displaying 8-bit color (256 colors) with a .26 mm dot pitch
  (that's good). Although the system has 512K VRAM, there's no
  telling if you could add more. More interestingly, Macintosh TV
  includes a built-in cable tuner. Interaction between the
  television and the computer is limited to frame grabbing, channel
  surfing, password-protection of TV mode, and closed captions,
  although many of these features I'd have to see to fully
  understand. The frame grabbing feature will prove incredibly
  popular, I suspect, and I'm sure we'll soon see 640 x 480 startup
  screens from every imaginable television show and movie. Do keep
  in mind that you may violate copyright law by grabbing such a
  screen shot and distributing it, even for free.

  Apple didn't stop with the Macintosh and the TV, but added a
  standard AppleCD 300i internal double-speed CD-ROM drive. The
  CD-ROM drive plays normal audio CDs and CD-ROMs, and is compatible
  with Kodak's PhotoCD format disks.

  Normal TV and computer features abound, so you can attach all
  sorts of Macintosh peripherals, as well as TV peripherals like a
  VCR, camcorder, laserdisc player, or video game unit. A single
  infrared remote controls both the TV functions and the CD player,
  and I bet that someone at MacHack next year will hack it to
  control the Mac as well.

  If Macintosh TV sounds like an experiment, that's because it is.
  Apple only sells Macintosh TV in the U.S. (a chorus of groans
  arises from international readers - I know) and only via selected
  consumer retail stores, higher education dealers, and the Apple
  Catalog. The price isn't bad at $2,079 (and that's the ApplePrice,
  which means that you probably won't find significant discounts
  from it), and there is only the one configuration.

  If I were in college, I'd be drooling over Macintosh TV, although
  I still think I would have preferred a Duo over a desktop Mac of
  any sort. Nonetheless, the college market is perfect for such a
  machine. Many college students don't yet have TVs, Macs, or CD
  players, and with the addition of some decent speakers (a slightly
  strange omission), you've got a fabulous dorm room system (minus a
  radio, unfortunately). Dorm rooms, generally being smaller than
  the average broom closet, won't suffer from what I see as the
  major problem such a Mac will face - placement. It sounds silly,
  but how many of you watch TV from the same location as you work on
  your Mac? I'm willing to bet the percentage is low - my mother
  always told me to move back from the TV when I was a kid
  (apparently The Mother's Manual knew about VLF and ELF radiation
  long ago) but you can't read a computer screen from six feet away.
  Most normal furniture that holds TVs isn't designed to function as
  a desk (the ergonomic implications of people using TV stands as
  desk are painful to consider), and frankly, 14" is a bit small for
  a TV these days. There's also a question of whether or not many
  people think of TVs and computers as being related - TVs encourage
  passivity whereas computers require interaction. Interactive TV
  has generally flopped - will the same societal viewpoints hurt
  Macintosh TV??

  Finally, although it seems to make sense to combine these
  electronic gadgets, similar attempts at combining fax machines,
  scanners, printers, and copiers have generally failed miserably.
  Macintosh TV could run afoul of the same problem - why buy a
  Macintosh TV when you already have a TV or a Macintosh? Because
  it's cool, that's why!

  So no, I don't think that Macintosh TV will put the Mac into every
  living room. I do think it that will be perfect for a high school
  or college student who doesn't already have a computer,
  television, or CD player. Putting it all into a single case was
  intelligent as well, since the people for whom Macintosh TV makes
  sense move frequently, and it's a pain to deal with gobs of
  different components and cables.


BBEdit: Not Quite Bare Bones
----------------------------
  by Andrew Johnston -- [e-mail]
     President, Johnston/Johnston Consulting, Macintosh Developer

  I first started using BBEdit 2.2 about six months ago and was
  impressed with all of the features available in this freeware
  package from Bare-Bones Software. Not only was it free, but there
  was an Internet address for support: [e-mail]. Since
  then, two other versions of BBEdit have become available: BBEdit
  Lite 2.3 and BBEdit 2.5. BBEdit Lite 2.3 is a smaller version of
  BBEdit 2.2 but lacks some of the features of 2.2. It is, however,
  the official freeware version of BBEdit - version 2.2 is no longer
  supported. BBEdit Lite has everything that 2.2 has, except:

* Compare
* XTND support
* THINK Reference support
* ToolServer support
* On Location support

  Bare-Bones Software released BBEdit 2.5 about the time of the
  Apple World Wide Developers conference. Unlike BBEdit Lite 2.3,
  BBEdit 2.5 is the commercial version of BBEdit (yes - you pay for
  this one - but it is worth it!) and sports a host of new features
  not available in previous versions. BBEdit has too many features
  for me to completely cover them all in the space of this review,
  but I will try to cover those that I found most interesting.

  First, let's talk a little about what BBEdit is. BBEdit is a
  text-only editor well-suited for software developers. BBEdit is
  not a word processor in the sense of Nisus or Word. You won't be
  inserting any graphics or QuickTime movies into BBEdit - nor will
  you be changing the font or font style every other paragraph. You
  will be working with a stable, well-written text editor that has
  been fine-tuned for software development.

  I have used BBEdit 2.5 since the release of the Symantec C++
  compiler and will, for the most part, be reviewing this commercial
  version of the product. I have used BBEdit version 2.5 in
  conjunction with Symantec C++ 6.0, Think Reference 2.0, and the
  MPW ToolServer on several Macintosh platforms - a Mac IIcx with
  Radius Rocket 25i, a Mac LC III, and a PowerBook 170 - all running
  System 7.1. BBEdit ran equally well on all platforms, but is the
  most useful when there is plenty of memory available to have all
  the above Apple event-savvy applications loaded and running. This
  was no problem with the Mac IIcx/Rocket (32 MB) and the LC III (20
  MB) but worked less well on the PowerBook 170 (8 MB). With only 8
  MB available I found that I could leave the THINK Project Manger
  and BBEdit open simultaneously and had to alternate between using
  the Symantec Debugger or the THINK Reference (but not both). Your
  use will vary depending on the size of your system and projects.
  It should be noted that this is not BBEdit's fault, since it needs
  a minimum of 320K of memory - more for lots of open documents.

  BBEdit has two basic kinds of windows, browser windows and edit
  windows. It can show multiple disk/file browsers, multiple
  Symantec Project browsers, a compile error browser, and a glossary
  browser.

  The disk/file browsers allow you to browse any installed file
  system and view any files that BBEdit recognizes in the bottom
  panel of the browser. BBEdit is also compatible with the Claris
  XTND file filters. You can select and copy any text displayed in
  the browser, but you cannot edit the file without opening an edit
  window. The Project browsers allow you to look at the contents of
  any Symantec Version 6.0 Project to see which files or libraries
  (sub-projects) are in the project. You can view any text files
  included in the project or automatically launch the Project to
  start using it. Note that this means that the THINK Project
  Manager doesn't have to be running in order to parse the projects!
  BBEdit can also open project documents created by THINK C 5.0 or
  THINK Pascal 4.0. The Compile Error browser lists all errors
  generated by the Symantec compiler - more about it later. The
  Glossary browser allows you to access the glossary feature of
  BBEdit.

  Using BBEdit as the main editor in conjunction with the new
  Symantec 6.0 Project Manager is virtually seamless and adds a host
  of features that you won't find in the standard Symantec editor. A
  few of the features I particularly appreciated were:

* split screen editing panes
* multiple file and disk searching
* compare tools similar to the MPW compare script
* compiler errors batch window
* ToolServer support
* THINK Reference/MPW 411 support
* support for DOS files (LF support etc.)

  BBEdit communicates via Apple events to the MPW ToolServer, THINK
  Reference 2.0, and the Symantec compilers. To take advantage of
  this integration you must run System 7; however, BBEdit does work
  under System 6. My main motivation for using the commercial
  version of BBEdit is that it has integrated support for the new
  Symantec C and C++ compilers. In particular, you can use BBEdit
  2.5 as the host editor when using the Symantec compiler by
  selecting "Use external editor" in the Editor preferences under
  the THINK Project Manager Options. Then place an alias (renamed
  "Editor") to the BBEdit application in the Tools folder in the
  Symantec compiler folder. This enables the Symantec C/C++ compiler
  to communicate with an external editor using Apple events under
  System 7.

  Once you have the Symantec compiler set up to use BBEdit as the
  external editor you can execute almost all of the compiler
  functions from BBEdit. BBEdit's THINK menu supports bringing the
  THINK Project Manger to the front, Compile, Check Syntax, Add
  File, Add & Compile, Disassemble, Preprocess, Precompile, Bring up
  to Date, Make, and Run. Unfortunately not all the command key
  equivalents for the compiler commands are the same as those in the
  THINK Project Manager.

  The THINK Project Manager communicates compiler errors and
  warnings via Apple events to BBEdit, which displays them in the
  Compile Errors browser window. The browser lists all the errors
  reported from the Symantec compiler and shows the selected file
  and highlighted error in the lower section of the browser. To edit
  the error you double-click on the error listed in the browser,
  which opens the file and displays the line containing the error.
  As with the Symantec Editor, the file does not have to be
  explicitly saved to disk before compiling or checking syntax. For
  some reason BBEdit never adds the Compile Errors window to the its
  window management menu - all other open windows are added to
  BBEdit's Windows menu for easy window management. When working
  with several files you can easily lose sight of the Compile Errors
  window. Hopefully this is just an oversight and will be changed in
  the next release of BBEdit.

  BBEdit can NOT set breakpoints for the debugger. This is a
  shortcoming because to set breakpoints you must go to the THINK
  Project Manger, turn off the Use external editor option, and then
  use the Project Manager's built-in editor to set the breakpoints
  or set them directly in the debugger window. This is an oversight
  of the THINK Project Manger's Apple event suite which I hope
  Symantec will rectify in later releases.

  In addition to Symantec compiler support, BBEdit also has
  integrated support for the MPW ToolServer. This feature puts it in
  a class shared by few other editors. BBEdit can start and quit
  ToolServer from the BBEdit ToolServer menu. BBEdit also adds to
  the BBEdit ToolServer Menu any MPW tools or scripts that the user
  places in the BBEdit ToolServer folder. This makes for a great
  replacement to the cumbersome MPW environment and is essential for
  those developers using MPW compilers. BBEdit opens a MPW Worksheet
  window for ToolServer that allows you to communicate with the MPW
  environment. You can generally perform any action that you would
  normally run from MPW as long as it doesn't require an open text
  file to perform. Once again, this limitation stems not from
  BBEdit, but from ToolServer.

  BBEdit recognizes MPW Projector source control information but
  does not currently directly support the MPW SourceServer. Rich
  Siegel, BBEdit's author, indicates that he hopes to add direct
  support for SourceServer along the lines of the existing
  ToolServer support in the near future.

  Be aware of one quirk when using BBEdit with files that are under
  MPW Projector support. In the current version of BBEdit, Projector
  and Read-Only support are mutually exclusive. If you check both
  Projector-Aware and Open Read-Only under the Filing Preferences,
  BBEdit will overlook any projector status. In other words, if both
  of these options are checked you can quickly change from Read-Only
  to Read-Write without seeing the "Do you want to change the status
  of the projector file to Modify Read-Only" dialog, fooling you
  into thinking that the file is not under source code control. When
  working on a software project not all the files I'm looking at may
  be under source code control (Projector), such as Mac Header
  files, MacApp source, or TCL source. In this case I would prefer
  to default to opening all files as read-only to help me from
  changing the source by accident. Rich is aware of this quandary
  and hopefully will address it in the future.

  BBEdit supports both THINK Reference and MPW 411 files. You can
  select which reference will be your primary lookup for Toolbox
  help. I tend to use the THINK Reference as my primary source of
  information; however, the MPW 411 system allows you to build your
  own custom help files for projects. You must run the MPW
  ToolServer to access 411 help files. Regardless of whether you use
  THINK Reference or using MPW 411 files you access help via the
  Toolbox Lookup menu item under the Search menu, or via the command
  minus keyboard shortcut. BBEdit then sends the appropriate Apple
  event to request the information for the highlighted words.

  BBEdit has strong search and replace capabilities including
  standard GREP (Global Regular Expression Parser) style searches
  that enable you to easily search for textual patterns. You can
  search the active window, all currently open documents, the entire
  project, or entire directories for matches. This can also extend
  to global search and replace. Batch search operations are
  displayed in a Search Results browser window added to the Windows
  menu. Search Browser windows have an upper section showing the
  line containing the found items and a lower section that displays
  the rest of the text file surrounding the selection. You can view
  the entire file in the browser window, but you cannot edit it.
  Double-clicking on the search list or on the Open button quickly
  opens the text file. BBEdit can open all the file types that it
  recognizes - either text-only or any file that is supported
  through the Claris XTND file filters - and can search the data
  fork of any file.

  You can extend the capabilities of BBEdit by writing your own code
  resources of type BBXT. BBEdit loads all code resource extensions
  in the BBEdit Extensions folder at program startup and places them
  in the BBEdit Extensions menu. BBEdit ships with a handful of
  extensions - some are useful in their own right and a few are just
  examples to help you write your own BBEdit extensions. The manual
  carefully details how to write your own extensions and includes
  the programming interface to BBEdit. Quite frankly, BBEdit is so
  full featured that most users will never have the need to write
  their own extensions, but it is nice to know that the flexibility
  is there. Other BBEdit users have written a number of extensions
  generally available on the nets.

  My pet peeve with BBEdit is that it lacks a built-in pop-up
  function/marker function for quickly accessing C/C++ functions and
  markers similar to the ones in the THINK Project Manger Editor.
  BBEdit does come with a demo copy of PopUpFuncs ($45 from SciComp
  Software) that provides this functionality, but this is a glaring
  omission. Other users may not consider this a problem, but
  considering this is one of the most heavily used features of any
  programmer's editor I think it should be an integral part of the
  editor and not an add-on. Also, PopUpFuncs 2.0 doesn't list C++
  overloaded operator methods in its list of functions, making it
  incomplete for C++ work.

  BBEdit's manual is detailed and well-written in a style similar to
  the old THINK C 5.0 manuals. Overall, the product is well thought-
  out and has evolved and been tested over a period of years by
  hundreds (perhaps thousands) of early BBEdit freeware users.
  BBEdit provides much functionality in an uncluttered interface
  that belies its power. This program works and will work for you
  regardless of which development system you use, just as it
  provided a strong, straightforward, tool set for software
  development for me in both THINK C/C++ and MPW. BBEdit is my
  editor of choice for almost all development projects.

  BBEdit retails for $99 and can be purchased directly from Bare-
  Bones Software. There are also discount prices for students (with
  proof of enrollment) for $29, and $49 for previous users of the
  old BBEdit. Users who want to upgrade can send in a screen shot of
  their BBEdit Lite or BBEdit 2.2 About box or Get Info window to
  get the discounted price. There is also a discount for competing
  products (QUED/M, Vantage, etc.) or complementary products (THINK
  C, THINK Pascal, MPW, etc.) at $49. E-mail orders should be sent
  to <[e-mail]>, or to 73051,3255 on CompuServe.

    Bare-Bones Software -- 508/651-3561 -- [e-mail]


Reviews/15-Nov-93
-----------------

* MacWEEK -- 08-Nov-93, Vol. 7, #44
    Duo 270c -- pg. 1
    FrameMaker 4 -- pg. 31
    VideoFusion 1.5 -- pg. 31
    Meeting Maker XP 1.0 -- pg. 34
    Aldus SuperPaint 3.5 -- pg. 35
    ACS50 Speaker System -- pg. 35

* InfoWorld -- 08-Nov-93, Vol. 15, #45
    Eo 440 -- pg. 120


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