If you are reading this, you are probably installing and using the reader
as a new user.
Before beginning, the introductory walk-through, I would like to take just
a moment and say "Thanks" for trying out The Blue Wave Mail System. No
other mail system in the world is growing and developing as fast as the one
you are testing right now!
You can move to the next message by pressing the ENTER key, or your right
cursor key.
If you are using a mouse, simply click the LEFT mouse button on the word
"Next", which appears on the bottom border of the message header window.
... This is a sample tagline. If it were real, it would be funny!
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
Well look at this!
Your very first mail packet, and you already have personal mail. If you
keep this up, people from everywhere are going to recognize you!
Why not take a moment to try creating a reply? Simply press the R key
right now, and you will be introduced to the Blue Wave Message Entry
System. When you REPLY to a message, the reader automatically fills in the
message entry header for you! It couldn't get any easier than this now,
could it?
... Taglines, taglines, taglines. So many taglines, and so little time!
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
While we're in a festive mood, let's try seeing just exactly what this
thing can do. Go ahead, press the F1 key!
The F1 key will serve as a memory jogger when you just can't remember which
key on the keyboard does what. After a few times using the program, you'll
probably never need the F1 key. The keys and functions of the reader will
become second nature to you.
If you're using a mouse, you will notice the words "F1 - Help" in the
bottom right hand corner of your screen. Move the mouse cursor to those
words and press the LEFT mouse button. Voila!
If you're a person who likes pull down menus rather than fumbling around on
the keyboard, the <Alt-M> key combination is for you. Press <Alt-M> right
now to access the reader's pull down menu. Reading mail offline has never
been easier!
If you're the mousey type, there are two ways to access the pull down menu
system. If you have a 3-button mouse, press the MIDDLE mouse button. The
menu will instantly appear. If you are one of the unlucky ones (like me)
with a 2-button mouse, move the mouse cursor to the words "Menu" on the
left hand side of your screen and press the LEFT mouse button. This will
also activate the pull down menu system.
... Error! Tagline not found. (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)anic?
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
Well, we made it through one message area with no battle scars!
This should be the last message you see in the "General Messages" area.
You can do several things to get back to the 'Choose Area to Read'
selection window.
1) Press your right arrow key once, and then again. When you hit the
last message in an area, the reader will signal you. If you press the
key again, it will automatically drop back for you!
2) If you're using the mouse, click the LEFT mouse button on the "Next"
icon twice.
3) Pressing ESCape will always get you out of message reading mode,
whether you are at the last message in the area or not. Clicking the
mouse's RIGHT button serves as your ESCape key when mousing around.
... Warning! Tagline thieves abound. See next message area for details!
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
By now you've probably seen the taglines at the end of the messages.
Taglines are part of the fun of offline mail reading!
How can you create your very own taglines? Well, that's simple, too. If
you press <Alt-A> right now, the reader will take the tagline directly out
of this message and save it to your very own tagline file! (A sample
tagline file, TAGLINES.BW, was enclosed with your reader).
If you have "Check tagline file for dupes" still enabled in the reader's
configuration menu, press <Alt-A> several times to see what happens. We've
got you covered!
... Press <Alt-A> to Adopt Me! I need a better home.
~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
The Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader fully supports Fidonet style netmail. If
you don't know what it is yet, you probably will. Entering netmail
messages is a bit different than entering "normal" messages. Press the <R>
key right now to see what the netmail message entry looks like.
Full details of using netmail is found in BWAVE.DOC. (What do you MEAN you
didn't read the documentation?)
... Ho, hum.
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
Well, I hope you enjoyed your quick tour of The Blue Wave Offline Mail
Reader. You have been viewing a mail packet that was created by a Blue
Wave Mail Door, but that probably doesn't interest you.
We know what prudent people like yourself are interested in; it's VALUE.
With The Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader, you can trash most of your 'other'
offline mail readers, if you are already using them. The Blue Wave Offline
Mail Reader now directly reads and creates .QWK style message packets.
QWK is another widely used offline mail packet format that is a bit more
limited in functionality compared to Blue Wave formatted packets. If your
favorite BBS system runs a QWK offline mail system, all you need to do is
place your QWK packets in the reader's user-defined "DOWNLOAD" directory,
and open up the packet just like you did this one! You don't have to
configure anything special to use the built in QWK functionality.
The remaining message areas in this packet contain a few sample messages
that I actually pulled out of the FidoNet echos themselves. It will give
you a good taste of what reading "REAL" messages is really like.
Thank you for being patient on this most exciting tour of the up and coming
Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader!
... Blue Wave ... Made with pride in the USA!
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.06o Mega
* Origin: The Wild! Blue BBS -=* Home of The Blue Wave *=- (1:2240/176.0) -=> Quoting Darryl Gregorash to Ed Blackman <=-
DG> DOS 4.0x prototyped a lot of things that are in DOS 5. I think DOS 4
DG> itself is a good reason to upgrade to DOS 5 ;-)
And MS-DOS 5 is a good reason to upgrade to DR-DOS 6 :-)
... Back-up My Harddrive ?? I can't find the reverse switch !
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.05 [NR]
* Origin: The Keyboard BBS - V32, Call 08-344-5354 (3:681/858.0) In a message dated <Apr 02 20:16>, Wolfgang Riedel (2:2400/102.2) wrote: WR>In a 4DOS Shell (level0) I am loading IPX and then NETX ver. WR>3.22. WR>During the connection from NETX to the SERVER I see the attached WR>to server SEC1 message and the connection time. Then it hangs up. WR>4DOS.INI: WR>HelpPath=U:\4DOS WR>Ansi=Auto WR>PauseOnError=YES WR>Environment=2048 WR>Alias=2048 WR>History=1024 WR>Swapping=XMS, EMS, none WR>UMBEnvironment=YES ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Change this to No as per the DOCS and it should work. I've been using 4DOS with Novell 2.15 and 3.11 without trouble. If you use Novell's menu system you will also need FullInt2E=ON.-Peter.--- msged 2.07 * Origin: Pete's Point, Kalgoorlie, West Australia (3:690/643.5) TR->What happens if you simply enter %COMSPEC at the 4DOS prompt, eg:TR-> c:\mydir>%COMSPEC Another user showed me where my problem was. I had in myautoexec.bat comspec=4D0S.COM instead of comspec=4DOS.COM. I don't ^ ^know how many times I looked at this and never saw it. Thanks for youtime and effort. Troy * SLMR 2.1a *
--- WM v2.01/91-0020
* Origin: Desktop Micro's BBS - (309) 662-2017 (1:232/302) ML->is that you comspec says 4d0s, not 4dos. You must feel pretty stupid, eh? You could say that. I was shown this by several people. Thething is I had looked at this several times and never saw it. Anywaythanks for your time and effort. Troy * SLMR 2.1a *
--- WM v2.01/91-0020
* Origin: Desktop Micro's BBS - (309) 662-2017 (1:232/302) BE-> TP> AUTOEXEC.BATBE-> TP> @SET COMSPEC=C:\4D0S.COMBE->Try making that '0' an 'O' :-) I got several messages on this. Can't believe I didn't see it.Anyway I got it change and everything is working fine. Thanks for yourtime and efforts. Troy * SLMR 2.1a *
--- WM v2.01/91-0020
* Origin: Desktop Micro's BBS - (309) 662-2017 (1:232/302) I've seen continuous questions and discussion about the speed of the 4DOS del command, and I have a suggestion for the next release. How about either a new command or an external utility called KILL? This would only have to accept one parameter: the directory to be emptied. For example, KILL C:\FOO (or KILL C:\FOO\) would delete _all_ files in the FOO directory, including the descript.ion file, using the FCB method that command.com uses. KILL would not touch any subdirectories of the target (i.e., all files in C:\FOO\BAR\ would remain, as would the subdirectory itself).This may be one that could be better suited as an external utility, since it would use a different method of deletion that would make 4DOS.COM bigger than it is. What do you think? -Lee--- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Middle of Nowhere * Kyle, TX (1:382/87.4) RT>SHELL=C:\4DOS4\4DOS.COM @C:\4DOS4\4DOS.INI RT>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ RT>This line loads 4DOS instead of DOS5' COMMAND.COM PH> Quite right but what do you need the @... parameter for anyway? The @ explicitly specifies which .ini file to use. I set up a special on to use for 4DOS windows in Windows (since I can't use UMB's there). PH> BTW, I love this AutoexecPath feature of the 4dos.ini. I'm working in a PH> development dep and I have some fellow programmers with a bit strange PH> sense of humour. This ends up with weekly... hm... odd boots in PH> the morning. After building up a fake autoexec.bat in the root and a PH> real one into my (hidden) 4dos directory, I've had a lot of fun daily PH> examining what has happened in my fake autoexec ;-))) Are you saying that you aren't sharing 4DOS with your fellow developers? You are truely a cruel individual if that's true! -Sten--- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: Ten Forward.NUL, San Antonio, TX (1:387/255.104) Does anybody here use Windows? I have written a small batch file whichmight benefit somebody else out there. I call it LOADWIN.BTM, and Iattach it at the end of my AUTOEXEC.BAT. It will load Windows at theend of five seconds, or allow you to select which file to run directlyafter loading Windows. Kind of simplistic, but pretty useful. Here itis :---- LOADWIN.BTM ----@echo offSET loadwin=WSET LOAD=text Choose one of the following : S - to select a program to run under Windows W - to immediately load Windows any other key to abort loading Windows.endtextinkey /w5 %%loadwinif "%loadwin"=="S" goto :selectif "%loadwin"=="W" goto :runwindowsgoto :end:selectselect /Oe SET LOAD=(*.;*.EXE;*.COM;*.PIF)iff ISDIR %LOAD then echo Changing directory... ^ cd %LOAD ^ goto :selectendiff:runwindowsiff "%LOAD"=="" then echo Running Windows in 386-Enhanced mode...else echo Running %LOAD under Windows in 386-Enhanced mode...endiffwin /3 %LOAD:endSET LOAD=SET LOADWIN=---- LOADWIN.BTM ----Any improvements are welcomed! Also, is there a way for INKEY to showwhat the counter is currently on while still checking for a key?Something like "5 4 3 2 1 0". * SLMR 2.1a # * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a--- MsgToss 2.0c! (r) * Origin: Nul 512-615-NUL1 HST/V32b,615-NUL2, NUL3, 1.2Gig (1:387/255) In a message to Rob Barth <04-11-92 18:30> Yousuf Khan wrote:
YK> That eventually Microsoft was going to discontinue support of any
YK> Dos 1.0 apps. Well, we're upto Dos 5.0 now (4 major versions past
YK> Dos 1.0), and there's no sign that Microsoft is going to
YK> discontinue support of Dos 1.0 calls. The reason it seems is that
YK> even Microsoft doesn't follow its own advice. Microsoft continues
YK> to use the faster FCB methods to "DEL *.*", even though it
YK> recommends everyone else move over to the newer handles.
That's MickeySoft for ya: "Do as we say, not as we do!" ;-)
--- QuickBBS 2.76 (Beta-6)
* Origin: NCC-1701 - Orlando, FL Warp 9.6 HST (407) 380-1701 (1:363/1701) Howdy David!In a msg dated <11 Apr 92>, David Bliss writes to Tom Rawson: DB> Just thought I'd let you know that UMBEnvironment is incompatible DB> with BNU fossil driver version 1.70 by David Nugent and Unique DB> Computing.<HUH?> I have my environment in the UMB, load BNU in the UMB, and have NO problems at all. -=(Rupa)=- [Entered on <13 Apr 92> at <06:43> in Houston Texas]--- FreeMail/GoldED 2.40+ * Origin: Its not a bug, its an undocumented feature. (1:106/1024) SB>I certainly try to obey him, but I don't think there is a day goes by
SB>that I don't sin in some way. I think this is normal for everyone.
SB>However, I don't think anyone else has prayed that I should receive the
SB>Holy Spirit, though. Again I must say that I do feel that I am guided by
SB>the Holy Spirit, but I don't know if it is the same as the baptism of
SB>the Holy Spirit that causes people to speak in tongues and recieve gifts
SB>of the Spirit, etc. Is it the same? After my water baptism, I never
SB>noticed any new spiritual gifts appearing, that I didn't already have
SB>beforehand. Was I supposed to? Why do I not speak in tongues?
I agree that it is normal for everyone to sin. We're only human after
all, however we are also very fortunate to have a forgiving God. If you
truly feel that you are being guided by God, then you already have
received a gift from God. Not everyone who receives the Holy Spirit also
receives the gift of speaking in tongues. There are many different gifts
that the Lord bestows on those deemed worthy. Some are more subtle than
others. I'll be honest, I cannot remember the exact Biblical verses to
support my belief, but I do feel that God is also guiding me. I recently
was blessed with a spiritual thirst for knowledge and in the past week
or so, I have bought more resaerch material into Christianity that I
EVER had before in my lifetime. I know God is guiding me to do
something. Right now, I don't know what exactly, but I do know it will
be for goodness and righteousness. Maybe I am destined to be an
apologetics person. In discussions with my wife I came up with a
statement worthy of at leastsomeone's tagline: "I don't apologize for
my apologetics.".
--- RAMail 2.3
* Origin: Kingdom Seeker's - Tallahassee, Fl.(904) 668-7930 (1:3605/58.0) Donna Waugh wrote to All, regarding Youth:
DW> Any Youth Directors out there???? If
DW> so, I would be interested in chatting.
Hello! I'm a part-time YM. Love the work!
DW> Our church is trying to rebuild its
DW> youth department after a reduction in
DW> attendance from approximately 50 to 15.
DW> Looking for new/improved activities
DW> which have a Biblical emphasis.
Let me reccommend two books that may help as far as activities...
_10_Minute_Devotions_for_Youth_Groups_, by JB Collingsworth. ISBN 0-931529-85-9
Quick Crowdbreakers and Games for Youth Groups, Group Magazine,
ISBN 0-931529-46-8
Tell me more about your past and current programs... maybe we can brainstorm.
Mind if I ask what part you play in the Youth Dept.?
* Origin: Verbose Ink * Dallas * 214-437-0914 * HST/DS (1:124/5125.0) what is the 7 seals mean in Revelations and the 7 stars in the left hand?lee studdatd
--- TMail v1.29
* Origin: 49 INDEX: A LANtastic BBS!!! 9 Lines! -- 404-924-8472 (1:133/201) I couldn't agree more Todd! My husband was divorced, and before I even knew him the church he attended welcomed him in and loved him. He has told me that if they hadn't loved him and accepted him as a child of God, he probably would have turned his back completely on the church. God does love those who are divorced if they are truly repentive, and he longs for each of us to love one another! Because of Christ, Carol--- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: INTERTECH [Calgary, Alberta] (1:134/36) I just need to ask a question here. I have been a Christian for only 5 years, and Almost every place I go, I hear of speaking in tongues. Now to be a "true" Christian, do I need to speak in tongues? I have been told that there was something(in my past) I had not asked forgiveness for, that there was something in my life now that was wrong, and that I would get much needed strength in my prayer life and for witnessing. But I still can't speak in tongues! I have asked God for this, and I have left it alone. I have tried everything I can think of. I have finally decided to let God do it in His time, or that I just was not meant to speak in tongues. But why do some churches put such emphasis on this subject? I feel like I am not worthy to be put in the same realms as those who do? Could I please get some feedback on this? Thanks. Because of Christ, Carol.--- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: INTERTECH [Calgary, Alberta] (1:134/36) In a message of <08 Jun 92 10:29:00>, Tandy Way (1:377/6) writes:
>EID:1179 0069b074
>MSGID: 1:377/6 508ae68d
>there are many people raving about the benefits of os2. I guess I am out
>of the mainstream. what is it I presume an operating system but why is it
>so great over dos? and does any speech package on the market work with
>os2? tandy
Of course it is great, it lets your sighted friends click their little mousie instead of using a keyboard. Yes, there is suppose to be a version of IBM Screen Reader for OS2. There has been a lot of publicity about how wonderful it is and how we will be able to use Windows through OS2 and Presentation Manager. However, all most people know about it is that IBM has been braging about Screen Reader for OS2 for a year and still hasn't released it to the publici. It would seem that it is about time the put up or shut up about the product.
As coordinator of an access technology training center I will put it on the line this way: Ok, IBM if you really have such a great speech software, and you know you will be the only company with speech software that will run under OS2 or Windows then prove it to me and I'll buy your product. Otherwise I am tired of hearing your sales reps and IBM employees keep blowing smoke about a product which obviously must be in pretty bad shape or you would have released it a long time ago. I want to see this wonderful product somewhere besides at your ACB and NFB demonstration booth where I can't really put it through it's paces. Are you afraid to let highly experienced computer users at your products because of the bugs they will find?
D. T.
--- msged 1.99S ZTC
* Origin: BRAILLE BANK - DV * V42/V32/V32BIS/HST - (412) 655-0806 (1:129/168) > claiming that since it is not used by everyone on the network > that it has no business there and is taking valuable disk > drive space on the server. Oh yes, the employee faught > the decision and won, but the bottom line was an evaluation > that showed the employee to be a trouble maker. To a lot of managerial types, a "troublemaker" is an employee who's looking for a way to do his job better rather than just pretending to work.
* Origin: The Handicap News (1-203-337-1607) (1:141/420) no problem loreta, love to help.
by the way, went with annie to her pre evaluation location this morning and it sounds like a fun bunch of folks over there, she shouldn't have any problems. dan
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: Broken Rose - Like Hell I Can't (1:203/11) Hi Keith,
I was able to zapp the virus for which I thank you very much. I did get
your tape but haven't had the time yet to make one back to you, however,
I have a couple of shareware programs that I'd like you to check out, so
I might just whip them on you.
Bolder bill
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.00
* Origin: Fantasy Mtn Disability Net Denver,Co 303-922-5730 (1:104/809.0) For those of you that are amateur radio operators, you can now access
an online callbook 24 hours a day. Call The Employment Connection, at
(508)-537-1862. Up to 9600 baud. Just enter dooway (h) and enter the
call that you would like to check. Program runs extremely fast.
Thanks Phill, and I wonder if your call book allows you to find out when
the license expires as well as when it was started. I'm curious as me
and another ham were talking about this very thing the other day. I ask
as I'm not real sure just when mine expires and I'd like to know.
bolder bill
--- Via Silver Xpress V3.00
* Origin: Fantasy Mtn Disability Net Denver,Co 303-922-5730 (1:104/809.0) SE>directory in Telix, but it was *my* fault...I had shelled out of theSE>program, forgot that I had shelled out, ran *another* program (in thisSE>case a disk de-fragmenter), and *poof*...no directory! Took me awhileSE>to figure out it was *my* mistake, and another week or so to get all mySE>listings back!I did this too, once. I shelled out and started editing my .Fon withTFE.... what a mess afterwards. Just nver thought. It was my firsttry with TFE. I rebuilt my .FON with TFE, but haven't used it sincebecause I don't really do much with my .FON anymore.Managed to find my passwords by going through all the junk on my HD withPCTOOLS.Mark. * SLMR 2.1a * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windows.--- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) JH>only $189.00 each plus something likeJH>$5.00 shipping (I have to check again later). That is why JH>I am looking for two other people who would go in with me JH>on the deal. By the way, it comes with a 7-year warranty. Well, count me in. Let me know more details too. I missed the original message. I'll give you a call if you leave your tel # and time to call.Carmen--- WinQwk 2.0 #188--- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Basic'ly Computers: Mooo-ing Right Along. (1:153/9) Would someone please explain to me the difference is HST and DUAL STANDARD modem
is. I have been reading the messages on this echo and am lost. All help appreciated
... Ride The Wave!
--- Blue Wave/Max v2.05 [NR]
* Origin: The Door Stop BBS->HST/DS/V32Bis/ASL (713)728-0788 (1:106/111.0) DJ>Yes, I know. The answer is no, because Metro is the only "Eagle" AMR
DJ>does not own. We have to ID90 on them like any other airline.
Dave,
I don't think I explained my question very well. Here's an example:
I ID90 from SPS-DFW on FY, then D2 from DFW-BNA on AA. On the AA standby list do I qualify as "D2" or "D2T"? I read N*CODES and it seems to say that I would be "D2T" because I am connecting from Eagle.
I had always been able to get them to list me as "D2T" before but the last time the agent said it didn't count. :-(
Later,
--LB
I bet we're really confusing everyone else with this thread!
=== WinQwk 2.0 #0
--- InterPCB 1.41b
* Origin: The Lebanon Link (1:116/26) -- (615) 399-0707 Shane,
So... Do you have any good consumer advice about Honda alternators?
Later,
--LB
=== WinQwk 2.0 #0
--- InterPCB 1.41b
* Origin: The Lebanon Link (1:116/26) -- (615) 399-0707 JN> I don't see that you need to have a juicing machine, and an expensive JN> one, to make frozen yogurt. I make it from our home- JN> made yogurt and fruit ground up in an ordinary blender, JN> plus sugar. Then I put it in one of these simple ice Well, I would certainly use it for more than just frozen yogurt. I have 2 ice cream makers now -- one is the rock salt kind that I got at a yard sale for $3 about 10 years ago and it still works great. I also have the kind you described. The problem is that unless you use eggs and cream, it gets too crytalline and in the case of the latter, it just sticks to the edges and is never right.--- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: King Solomon's Mine (1:261/1023) AW> NuFinish does a better job on plasic bodied cars, or AW> cars with clear coat. It is hard to wipe off from AW> paint that doesn't have the clear coat.I'm not sure if I still have it or not, but if I do, I'll give it a shot on the Saturn (on a small patch, first) since it has a clear coat. Thanks!--- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: King Solomon's Mine (1:261/1023) DL> Do you know of any cheap sources for @VW fuel injection parts? I'm DL> local to Station One, the mail-order VW parts house, and they're the DL> cheapest source in town, but I'm looking for something even lower (as DL> usual). I've had the fuel distributor seize up (rust?), the fuel DL> accumulator leak (weak bladder), a couple of check valves go bad, and DL> I'm looking forward toward the day when the control pressure regulator DL> gives up the ghost. @JC Whitney doesn't carry these parts. No, I dont. Actually I just got a 78 Impala with a 77 Caprice 305, the VW needed a new clutch, and a lot of other things. One thing I dont like about the VW is the side windows they keep rotting and the window always falls in the road and smashes. And the engine vibrates so much going down the highway. But it got me from point A to point B ok.... When all else fails, open the manual and read it! --- Blue Wave/TG v2.05 [NR] * Origin: The Razors Edge - Richmond, RI <401-364-6343> (1:323/401.0) > Deposits can only be made at the bank (or associated ATM) > that you have an account with. Not true! You can deposit at ANY ATM. You can withdraw at ANY ATM.AS LONG as it is in the same network that your card was issued. How do I know? I work for a bank! Scotbear ì
--- Opus-CBCS 1.14
* Origin: STARCOM, Consumer Retorts, 414-873-6969 [WIMIL] (1:154/69.0) Lon Levy said to Don Lewis:LL>I checked into rates in December of last year (and perhaps things haveLL>changed since then). MCI and Sprint were pretty much tiedLL>with MCI's Friends and Family making it cheaper. AT&T wasLL>slightly higher, but it was about 3/4 of a cent per minuteLL>more expensive. I am pleased with the service I amOne other consideration is whether the other LD companies bill by thefractional minute as MCI does. The local GTE bills only by the minuteso a 10 second call costs the same as a minute. But in MCI a 6 secondnetmail call only costs 1 cent.--- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Crystal Palace -=<NEC-SDS-ModemNews>=-Node 1 (1:228/19) Hello TomTC>04 Jun 92, Donna Ransdell writes to All:TC>TC> DR> I rarely buy extended service plans or warranties, but in the twoTC> DR> have in the past, both times it has paid off.TC>I agree that having an extended warranty does pay off! However I used to have a problem with the fact that they usually cost more than I could afford to pay at the time I purchased the item. Recently though, I believe I may have found a way to protect myself. I joined a consumerist organization with over 4 Million members where now I can get double the manufacturers warranty on just about everything I purchase up to an additional two years! I also can get guaranteed low prices on everything I buy or get double the difference back. Its kind of like having access to a research team that does nothing but study the Consumer Reports for all of my purchases.TC>[Text deleted]TC>TC> DR> I don't think I'd purchase extended plans on minor items such as TC> DR> or vacuum cleaners, but I definitely would think about it for larTC> DR> cost items such as cars and houses in the future.Thats what I used to think. As a matter of fact I used to look at all the smaller items as somewhat disposable :-) I figured that it was probably not worth spending the extra money on the extended warranty on something that didn't cost that much any way, and figured that if something happened to it after the warranty ran out, I would probably just replace it. But now I don't have that problem.TC>Good advice, but don't forget to read what's covered. My wife purchasTC>extended warranty on her Dodge. We have had several repairs made withTC>single one being covered by the extended warranty.TC>That is definitely a good idea to read what is covered because sometimes manufacturers try to put in little loop holes that they use to bypass us little guys. In fact I used to just ignore the problems I had with something (unless they were major problems) because I alone didn't have the clout to battle with them. But now I have access to a Consumer Action Team which has been representing consumers like myself for over 13 years. It is kind of like having insurance for all my purchasing or any other consumer related problems I might have whether they are with Landlords, Utility Companies or what have you.Just thought I would share my experiences!Steve GinnA~g~#;#~~~---A~g~#;#~~~ # WinQwk 2.0 #0 # Unregistered Evaluation CopyA~g~#;#~~~--- * Origin: ABACUS BBS - Chaparral,NM. (505) 824-0049 HST DS (1:381/85) DR>The previous forwarded message was forwarded by request from theDR>originator...she really needs help...I'll forward the replies to DR>her...Donna,I don't know much about couches changing color or how to fix them but I do know if I have a valid problem with something that I have purchased and have been unable to get it resolved through the normal channels, I use a new service which I recently joined to help solve the problem for me. They have a Consumer Action Team which is a team of people whose sole job is to assist consumers in getting problems resolved. In fact in over 13 years that they have been in existance, they have never failed to successfully resolve a problem on behalf of their members. I don't quite know what they do, but I think it helps having a membership of over 4 million strong! If you think a group like this could help, just let me know and I will send you info on how you (or your friend) can join this Consumerist organization.Steve GinnP.S. If you would like so that I can stay within the guidelines I would be happy to respond via private mail (I think?) so that I don't appear to be advertising these services on the net. I believe this service could benefit a lot of people, and especially those in this group who seem to be making an attempt at getting treated fairly as a Consumer, but since I don't know what the rules are for this group (and I'm not the Moderator) I is better to be safe than to annoy anyone. :-)--- RAMail 3.15 * Origin: ABACUS BBS - Chaparral,NM. (505) 824-0049 HST DS (1:381/85) I wish you lots of luck on your project. Looks like you got a good dealon the blocks. Home Depot seems like my Home Base, just recently changedfrom Home Club. One thing that I don't like about it is the huge size.Just bought an older home complete with established yard. My mainproject is to bring the lawn sprinklers up to muster. Some needreplacement and my not being familiar with this system I'll need help.Hopefully some of this home improvement stores can provide some gooddirection and not just try to sell me something new.What's your neighborhood like? I live in the southwest a normally drywarm area but also on the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. * OLX 2.1 * Unable to locate Coffee-- Columbia has a new cash crop--- * Origin: ABACUS BBS - Chaparral,NM. (505) 824-0049 HST DS (1:381/85) Try a good grade of Turtle Wax. I have a white car (4 yrs old) and ìhave used their wax...its wonderful!--- QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr (Gamma-2) * Origin: The Retreat House - San Antonio, Texas (1:387/905) Ken :
In California, they do indeed ticket people if the kiddies are not in car seats!
I addition to the ticket, I'd like to see a sentence of 6 months of community service in the pediatric area of a local hospital!!!!!
David
--- DB B1072/003346 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 714-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:207/101) In a message of 10 Jun 92 06:18:26, Tim Richards wrote:TR> Since we are on the topic, unless I missed it in the last couple ofTR> months, which LD service is the best, rates...etc?I use AT&T.. I have the 24 hour plan.. $8.70 a month... you get one free hour (makes up for the 8.70)10% off all daytime calls25% off calls 5pm to 10pm$6.80 an hour all other timesworks for me.. also have a calling card that allows me to use these rates from anywhee.. --- FIDOdoor+ 3.1.6 * Origin: Fix America First! (1:209/777.0) Many thanks to those of you who responded to our request for feedback on the DAK bread machines. Your input was helpful.
--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Threshold BBS <<215-942-3874>>. (1:273/301) I don't think there are any Service Merchandise in my area, but it's ìencouraging to know that such tuners exist. Thanks for your reply.
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: FORDHAM JESUIT Multiuser V32/HST-NYC, NY 212-579-2869 (1:278/713) Re: Fred II
Thanks for the info!! I'll look into it.
--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: FORDHAM JESUIT Multiuser V32/HST-NYC, NY 212-579-2869 (1:278/713) GJ>We've had a Braun for about three years now, and I'm real happy with
GJ>it. The worst experience I've had is with Mr. Coffee machines.
GJ>In my experience they don't last, and only make a fair cup of coffee.
Thanks for the helpful information, Glenn.
--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Coconino County *415-861-8290* San Francisco, CA (1:125/28) MG>I've been using my Krups for five years and it makes really good
MG>coffee, but it's REAL slow. If you don't use a timer so that
MG>your coffee is ready when you get up in the morning, then you
MG>might have a fit waiting for the first cup.
Yea, I'm thinking of using one of those timers that plugs into the ac outlet to control the flow of power to lights/appliances.
--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Coconino County *415-861-8290* San Francisco, CA (1:125/28) SS>We have a Bunn home type coffee maker and love it.Paid $39.00 at
SS>Walmart for it about 3 years ago,I think it is still about the
SS>same price.
Thanks, Scott; what model is it? Does it have one of those gold filters?
--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Coconino County *415-861-8290* San Francisco, CA (1:125/28) KA>For the last 10 years I've used Norelco Dial-a-Brew. I had a "plain"
KA>one from 1983 to around 1987 or so, then switched to one with a timer.
KA>What I like about it: You can (as the name indicates) change the
KA>water flow rate to allow the coffee to be on the "weak" side or on the
KA>"strong" side. (The longer it takes for the water to pass over the
KA>coffee, the stronger it will be.)
Just the way I like it!(-;
KA>You can still get both the plain model and the model with the timer. I
KA>paid about $40 or so for the one with the timer 2 years ago
Sounds like a bargain.
KA>If you like the concept of the "gold plated" filter, those are available
KA>for it too. It was included in mine when I bought the coffeemaker.
I like the concept, but I'm not sure why. Are you familar with them?
KA>It's easy to set the timer for brewing, and it keeps the pot warm for 2
KA>hours (from the time it starts to brew.)
Coffee never lasts that long with me around(-;.
KA>(My "recipe": I use 100% Columbian coffee. I tend to like it on the
KA>strong side, so I keep the brew selector on the darkest setting.
Mmmmmmmm MMMMMM-- Sounds great this morning.
--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Coconino County *415-861-8290* San Francisco, CA (1:125/28) BE>If it's inside the LATA, you can beatBE>the system by dialing the 5 digit code ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Uh.. is that a Sprint thing? I'm still ATTwith the Reach Out America plan.Ted WinQwk 2.0 #0
--- WM v2.02/92-0004
* Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110) Thanks for the info...so far, all I have heard is negative.
Jack
--- QuickBBS 2.75 Ovr
* Origin: The Bullfrog BBS * Memphis,TN * (901)684-1758 (1:123/18) That's nothing. How about Alpha; 400 MIPS and up? And Hitachi's design for a 1000 MIPS processor. It does make you wonder what we'll do with all this horsepower in a few years, though. Our computers here are way underutilized compared to their horsepower.--- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Firesign >>---> Middletown CT, USA (1:16/234) This echo conference is called "MICHIGAN".
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--- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Lighthouse BBS-HST Lansing, MI 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) Howdy, Frank!In a delightful expose' to Ben Lambert <11 Jun 92 12:05> Frank Lessa interpolated: FL> From what I've read and heard, the main objections are that FL> base wages have not been increased in something like ten yearsIt's around that (closer to 8), but then again the Kroger employees are still making higher wages than any other super market chain in south east MI! FL> Kroger is trying to convert many full-time positions to part-time, with FL> less pay and fewer fringe benefits.Heaven forbid that a major company would finally look for ways to reduce costs, instead of driving them up again! FL> I can't imagine why a can of baked beans should cost $3.00 FL> when 'real' labor costs (adjusted for inflation) are declining.Huh????? I'm not sure where you get your information, but according to the federal guvment the "real" base cost of labor has risen steadily for the past 30 years, with no sign of decline in the future. FL> Go to school, get a better education, get a better job? I FL> went to school, got a degree at MSU, and made a whopping $11K FL> last year. I'm still looking for 'a better job.'I agree with you here! Even a college education these days doesn't guarantee a "good" job! That's sad...+Mark O+ On Fast Eddies, Monroe, MI. Hometown of General Custer!--- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Never put a ? where God has put a period. (RA 1:2380/101.2) ET> >Dyslexic Christian sells soul to Santa." ... News at 11 ET> I tried to play my shoehorn but all I got was footnotes. ET> She criticized my house so I knocked her flat. ET> YOur karma ran over my dogma. ET> Catastrophe: an award for the cat with the nicest buns. I know the line at the top isn't yours, but since you've come up with some really nice lines, maybe you can explain David's to me. --- ■ MegaMail 2.10 #1445· All true wisdom is found in taglines ≡JH3≡ --- SFScan v1.00a * Origin: The Ranch House 512-945-9304 (1:387/907.0) RT> ... Double your Hard Drive Space: DELETE WINDOWS! RT> --- Blue Wave/RA v2.05 --- ■ MegaMail 2.10 #1445·Your Blue Wave wears army boots --- SFScan v1.00a * Origin: The Ranch House 512-945-9304 (1:387/907.0) ... NY cops go bar-hopping; LA cops go night-clubbing.- J-Mag--- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: base point where the abscissa and ordinate equal zero (1:106/100.16) While riding the wave I heard Brian Gates say to Scott Malin this: BG> ... Agh burzum ishi krimpatul BG> (Lord of the Rings) taglines dealing the rings. This is just the BG> original Ring inscription. SM> So that's how you'd type it in english characters! BG> Sorry, can't claim much orginality. Gandalf verbalizes it at one BG> point, using Enlish letters.Which book please! I'm stalled at the Two Towers till I settle into mynew job. BG> Of course, I didn't use the vowel BG> diacritcal marks that he did. This *is* Fido. <g>Huh ... oh you said Fido, not Frodo! :) BG> (BTW, any word on tagline searching in the new BlueWave? You don't BG> want to know about my latest kludge in that direction <g>.)You want a word? How about "Yes" Scott... Safe sex means never having to say "You've got WHAT?!?"--- Blue Wave/TG v2.06o Mega * Origin: You expected something funny in this origin line? (1:142/629.0) John Foster's new book: German Language equivalents (British origin) was dedicatedto All at 7:48:00 AM on 6/10/92. Two blonds in a Volkswagon: farfromthinkin.---> Greg--- MacWoof 1.5.1 * Origin: Tagline on hiatus. (1:143/207.4@fidonet) Q: How many Borg does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: All of them. Chris "...I'll shut up now..." Derr--- MacWoof Eval:08May92 * Origin: NOT DA MAMA! (1:143/207.10@fidonet) ... Baby... -- The Late Elvis Presley.---> Greg--- MacWoof 1.5.1 * Origin: Tagline on hiatus. (1:143/207.4@fidonet) ...But then, on thursday, june 4, 1992, having just found the sacred Rubyof Roddenberry, the intrepid Dr.Doug Black was accostedby the evil double-agent Mata Kelly O'Guinn who cried:KO>DB>BS>... Perot, Bush and Quayle: The millionaire, the skipper andKO>DB>Gilligan.KO>DB>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^KO>DB>I tried to steal this one, but it's too long for SLMR!KO>I had to shorten it to...KO>===KO> ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Bush and Quayle: the Skipper and GilliganOr.... * SLMR 2.1a * Perot/Bush/Quayle: The Milionaire, the Skipper & Gilligan--- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: CrossRoads * Kingston, Ont. (1:249/1) ... Death to all fanatics!... There are _no_ absolute statements.Bert--- FD 1.99c * Origin: Tech-80, Miami, FL (1:135/55) ... The Dog Star is a very Sirius matter.... Nice computers don't go down.Bert--- FD 1.99c * Origin: Tech-80, Miami, FL (1:135/55) :-< Divorce: Who can understand it?--- * Origin: Bullitt - 80 Opus BBS; Miami, Fl. 305-948-5698 (1:135/46) Hardware too softSystem's downSystems analyst needs psychoanalystBugs in systemFloppy discs too floppySomeone pulled the plugForgot the languageInput errorSoftware too hardFormat errorSomeone changed my programForgot my passwordOutput problemComputer burn outI hope you all enjoyed those! That was actually from a tee-shirt I had that I recently found, old, faded, and barely legible... But, I though I'd share 'em wit'cha!Enjoy!--- * Origin: Bullitt - 80 Opus BBS; Miami, Fl. 305-948-5698 (1:135/46) >> ... τÖÖ ┌┬┐ûÇ├┐ $εx Å⌠⌠ε¢τ$ ¥ÖÜr εÿε$íg├┐τ.... > GB> And in ENGLISH? > You better get your eyes checked, Guy. <GRIN> Must be the LACK of it since Cindy having left! None since April 13th! Hmmm, that just MUST be it, RIGHT? (HAHAHAHAAHahahahaha!)--- * Origin: Bullitt - 80 Opus BBS; Miami, Fl. 305-948-5698 (1:135/46) >-> > ... fOO +++uC++ $Ex aIIEcf$ YOUr EyE$ig++f.... >-> And in ENGLISH? > It said, "Too Much Sex Affects Your Eyesight". However, now that > the > joke is explained, I'm sure it is no longer funny. <grin> it just MUST be the fact that I ain't had any since my wife left me April 13th, RIGHT? (WIDE GRIN!)--- * Origin: Bullitt - 80 Opus BBS; Miami, Fl. 305-948-5698 (1:135/46) ... "Happiness is a warm puppy" said the anaconda.... "We are upping our standards... so up yours." Pat Paulsen.Bert--- FD 1.99c * Origin: Tech-80, Miami, FL (1:135/55) TR> addresses pretty automagically, so I don't see why it couldn't do that, TR> too. Checking for PCRelay might be a little different, though.Checking for PcRelay taglines is pretty straight-forward IMO. Each messagewill have the PcRelay two-line signature at the bottom and looking for the ->BBS_ID should be easy. A configuration option for BW might be to: 1.only route when original was routed; 2. always route; 3. never route;4. or ask the user each time.SPEED does it this way and it works quite well.--- * Origin: Dane's Mailbox * Tucson, AZ (1:300/21.1)
