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INFO-HAMS Digest Mon, 30 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 826
Today's Topics:
airport security
Comments on the RS PRO-55 scanner...
Down with SO239 connectors!!
Field day rules...
Ham radio software
Looking for old radio parts
New subject: Tesla vs gauss, and other obscure units
Phone Patch Construction question
PL259 connector assembly
Tesla vs gauss, and other obscure units
Voice of America Scheduled Broadcasts
Wilson HT
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Date: 31 Oct 89 01:25:07 GMT
From: unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: airport security
Generally most hams have not had much trouble, but there are some isolated
incidents.
What I do is disassemble the HT from the battery pack, cover the contacts on
the batteries (fully charged) with electrical tape to prevent accidental
shorts and possible fire. I pack the components apart, but in the same
suitcase (I only carry one). I've run it through X-ray and never been
questioned or stopped.
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF ACTUALLY OPERATING THE HT ON BOARD THE AIRCRAFT,
not even to listen. Walkman type stereos have been said to affect some
navigation equipment. Maybe the walkman was at fault, but don't take
a chance that it wasn't the nav gear.
--Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
<phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Date: 30 Oct 89 23:00:15 GMT
From: agate!shelby!lindy!allyn@apple.com (Ruby Lai)
Subject: Comments on the RS PRO-55 scanner...
I just bought one at a local RS clearance sale for $21.80. It seemed
like the right price for a 10 Ch. xtal scanner...so tell me (Hello Mr.
Parnass! (-:) did I get a lemon?
Would JAN/International/Crystek cut xtals for a RS scanner? RS wants
$4.98 per xtal...
Allyn Lai
kb6odf
allyn@lindy.stanford.edu
allyn@cup.portal.com
allyn@slacvm.bitnet
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Date: 31 Oct 89 01:24:59 GMT
From: unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Down with SO239 connectors!!
In article <25.Oct.89.17:15:08.BST.#3781@UK.AC.NWL.IA>
PJML%UK.AC.NERC-WALLINGFORD.IBMA@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU writes:
>Why, oh why, do manufacturers insist on fitting PL259/SO239 connectors
>to their gear? A more horrible connector for RF is hard to think of.
>(anyone remember RCA Phono-plugs being used for RF wiring some years back?)
>At anything above DC, the PL259 is horribly lossy and non-constant-impedance.
>Unless you tighten them up real tight (like with a small pipe wrench!) they
>unscrew themselves and oxidise after a few years.
I've found that not only does a PL259 work reasonably well at audio
frequencies, but I've even used it up to VIDEO frequencies without a
significant degradation of signal quality. After spending 45 minutes
apiece getting the darned things soldered right, they better work.
I just recently obtained a Larsen Antenna catalog and notice they have a
variety of connector types. Sure, PL's are listed first, by THEY DO make
BNC's, N's, and even TNC's available.... EXCEPT on their VHF/UHF duplexer.
OK, so I called up Larsen and asked them why they don't make it with N's
or even BNC's. They said the unit would end up costing $150 (with PL's it
runs about $50) and they could not sell it at that price. I've see type N
connectors for chassis mount like they would need to use run for $10 or less.
Since the 3 connectors must be costing them $100 more, that's $33 apiece more
than PL's. Then someone must be PAYING THEM $23 apiece to use their PL's.
At least with the latest teeny-tiny breed of Japanese radios, they've had
to pigtail the RF connector and run a short coax lead out the back of the
radio where they stick on an SO239 type connector. At least they are making
it easier to put a decent connector on.
TNC connectors are being used for cellular telephone systems at 800 Mhz.
Why not the cheaper PL connectors if they are just as good?
Ethernet specifies type N connectors (BNC for thin) even at relatively lower
frequencies. Things would surely have cost less of they had used PL's.
Then even Radio Shack could sell Ethernet parts.
--Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
<phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Date: 31 Oct 89 01:24:55 GMT
From: unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Field day rules...
> The station MUST be set up, from start to finish, by Novices/ Techs ONLY;
> The station MUST be manned only by Novices/ Techs;
> The station uses one of the Novice calls of the group operating it (not
> the call the rest of the FD group is using.
Suppose the novice station is operating 10 meters and at a different time,
the regular FD group operates 10 meters, AND several stations worked are
worked via BOTH CALL SIGNS. Do both sets of contacts count (they would for
the other guy since he has no way to know) or do they have to be DUPped?
--Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
<phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Date: 30 Oct 89 22:14:10 GMT
From: hp-sdd!holt@hplabs.hp.com (Holt Mebane)
Subject: Ham radio software
So now that I finally have a home computer to use with my station, anyone
have any recommendations on good software? I want a logging program that
can handle contests, DX, and whatever paper I may decide to chase. Any other
ham-related software recommendations would also be appreciated. (Sattelite
tracking, etc.) Thanks.
Holt Mebane, N4HR/6
_________________________________________________________________________
UUCP : {hplabs|hp-pcd|hpfcla|hpda|noscvax|gould|ucsd}!hp-sdd!holt
UUCP : {cbosgd|allegra|decvax|gatech|sun|tektronix}!hplabs!hp-sdd!holt
ARPA : hp-sdd!holt@nosc.arpa
CSNET : hp-sdd!holt@hplabs.csnet
USmail: 16399 W. Bernardo Drive, San Diego CA 92127-1899 USA
Phone : (619) 592-4882
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Date: 30 Oct 89 19:25:48 GMT
From: vsi1!teraida!bob@apple.com (Bob Armstrong)
Subject: Looking for old radio parts
The discussion of sources for parts brings to mind another question - can
anyone recommend sources for vacuum tube components ? Restoring/building
old radios is a growing sub-hobby of mine, and sources for vacuum tube
related parts are becoming very hard to find. I'm specifically thinking
of things like power transformers, audio output/interstage transformers,
IF/RF transformers and coils, high voltage electrolytic capacitors, tubes
and sockets, etc...
I'm already aware of Antique Electronic Supply, and while they're
certainly a great place, their selection is a little limited. Are there
any others ?
--
Bob Armstrong UUCP: {decwrl,sun}!teraida!bob
Teradyne/EDA West Phone: (408) 980-5263
5155 Old Ironsides Drive FAX: (408) 748-7761
Santa Clara, CA 95054
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Date: 30 Oct 89 23:23:35 GMT
From: ankleand@CAF.MIT.EDU (Andrew Karanicolas)
Subject: New subject: Tesla vs gauss, and other obscure units
In article <851@ariel.unm.edu> ee5391aa@hydra.unm.edu.UUCP (Duke McMullan n5gax) writes:
>In article <1989Oct29.224736.2838@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer)
>writes:
(lots of stuff deleted)
>Habit, I suspect, coupled with the natural conservatism that we all possess.
>This will change. How many people do you know who know the peta- and exa-
>prefixes, and the femto- and atto- prefixes? (Admittedly not useful to most
>of us, unless you're measuring the circumference of Pluto's orbit in electronic
>radii....;^)
>
In the microelectronics world, thinking in terms of femtofarads is
fairly commonplace. For example, in calculations of gate-source capacitances
for a minimum feature size MOS device. .
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Date: 31 Oct 89 01:24:52 GMT
From: unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Phone Patch Construction question
>From: SKOHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
> I wonder if someone would take a moment and answer some not state-of-
> the-art questions. I am thinking about setting up a private phone
> patch on 2 meters. It would cover only about a 2 mile radius.
^^^^^^^^^^^
> My first question concerns the legality and accpetability of this.
> Of course, I would make certain the freq is not used by a repeater,
> or packet or any other group.
>From: tad@ssc.UUCP
> Legality of this setup is questionable.
A simplex phone patch will consist of a TRANSMITTER (at the base) which is
under REMOTE CONTROL by whoever is accessing the patch (usually at a remote
location). FCC rule 97.213(a) specifies that remote control of an Amateur
Station by radio must use an auxiliary station. In other words, you are
operating an auxiliary station when you are remotely accessing the patch.
FCC rule 97.201(b) specifies that an auxiliary station may transmit only on
the 1.25m and shorter wavelength bands except 220.0-220.5, 431-433, and
435-438 Mhz segments.
>From: hendrick@frith.egr.msu.edu
> A dual band radio will work much better for a "simplex" autopatch. You
> can avoid all that nasty sounding clicking, have 100% control over the
> phone line 100% of the time, and have full duplex (just like a REAL
> phone) also. No difference from a "cellular" phone, except you aren't
> paying through the nose for it, and you can't use it for business use.
Sounds like a good solution to me. To make it legal, be sure the CONTROLLING
station is transmitting on UHF or 220 and the base station is transmitting on
2 meters. The other way around would be violating 97.201(b) and 97.213(a) by
operating a remotely controlled amateur station by other than an auxiliary
station on frequencies authorized for auxiliary stations.
Simplex autopatches are quite tempting, and simple to set up, but NOT LEGAL
on 2 meters because it would be REMOTE CONTROL via 2 meters. Taking the dual
bander approach makes for a better patch, and gives you the chance to easily
make sure it is legal.
--Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
<phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Date: 30 Oct 89 17:37:40 GMT
From: cadre.dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!speedy.cs.pitt.edu!hoffman@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Bob Hoffman)
Subject: PL259 connector assembly
In article <7880085@hpfcdc.HP.COM> perry@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes:
>you can never reuse the PL259
>after you solder those four little holes on the side.
Sure you can! You just need a mongo soldering gun! I use an ancient
Craftsman 250W unit. I also use nothing but silver-plated teflon-dielectric
PL259s. As a rule, I much prefer type N connectors, but I don't like to
modify equipment that comes supplied with PL259s. So, I figure that if
I *must* use PL259s, I might as well use the best.
The only problems I've had in soldering to PL259s are with foam-dielectric
coax. If you use RG213, RG214, Belden 9913, or some other polyethylene
coax, then you won't have any trouble. The foam in Belden 8214, however,
tends to expand when heated and it fills the space between the outer
shield and the connector body making it difficult to solder. In those
cases, I tin the braid before I put it in the connector being very
careful not to use too much heat or to let the braid expand.
---Bob.
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Date: 30 Oct 89 20:07:53 GMT
From: shlump.nac.dec.com!koning.dec.com!koning@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Koning)
Subject: Tesla vs gauss, and other obscure units
Tesla is the SI unit, gauss the (officially obsolete) unit from the
CGS system. Why is it still used? Partly because we're in the USA,
where the metric system is only barely understood. Partly because
engineers and amateurs tend not to care much about consistency in
units.
I still remember the grief I caught from my Physics prof. because I
had the nerve to write up a lab report on gamma ray experiments with
the energies listed in fJ (femtojoules) rather than his pet MeV
(megaelectronvolts, a mishmash if ever I saw one).
Does all this matter, you ask? It sure does. I recently tried to
read an apparently well-regarded textbook on switching power supplies.
The section on inductor design was totally unintellegible. The
reason: careless random mixing of units, particularly centimeters
or square centimeters vs. "circular mils" [sic].
paul, ni1d
PS. Remember the Hz vs. cps flaming in QST some years ago?
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Date: 30 Oct 89 20:10:53 GMT
From: cadre.dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!unix.cis.pitt.edu!nadst2@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Nilanjan Adhikari)
Subject: Voice of America Scheduled Broadcasts
In article <302@voa3.UUCP> eab@voa3.UUCP (Al Brown) writes:
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> `Azi' is the azimuth of the signal's major lobe, in degrees
> true, from the transmitting station.
>
What does this azimuth say about the ease or difficulty to be
expected in tuning a given station in USA (e.g. in the Northeast) ?
I am a novice SW listener. Please help (anybody ! )
>--
>E. Allen (Al) Brown VOA/BBC Voice of America
^^^
Is it possible for you (Mr. Brown) {or anyone else !} to post a similar
list for BBC programs too ? It would be very helpful. Thanks.
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Date: 30 Oct 89 17:35:02 GMT
From: cadre.dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!speedy.cs.pitt.edu!hoffman@pt.cs.cmu.edu (Bob Hoffman)
Subject: Wilson HT
In article <145@raider.MFEE.TN.US> root@raider.MFEE.TN.US (Bob Reineri) writes:
>I tried to call Wilson, but they appear
>to be out of business.
Your best bet is to get a replacement battery from a battery specialist
such as Mr. Nicad (E. H. Yost Co.).
Wilson was bought out by Regency a couple of years ago. The new
Regency HTs look just like the old Mark IVs on the outside; I don't
know if anything's changed on the inside or not. If you need replacement
parts, you can probably get them from Regency.
---Bob.
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End of INFO-HAMS Digest V89 Issue #826
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