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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 15 Apr 91       Volume 91 : Issue 299

Today's Topics:
                       10m Glass Mount Antenna
                      2m thru-glass ant question
                     50 to 75 ohm transformer???
                      FOR SALE: AIRLINE TICKETS
                      Info-Hams Digest V91 #298
           The first No-Code Ham is........(DRUMROLL).....
            The IC-W2A: A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Toping!

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Date: 15 Apr 91 21:10:20 GMT
From: ucselx!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 10m Glass Mount Antenna
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>I posted an article along a similair vein to this in rec.radio.cb recently
>(just hold that spit in your mouth for a moment!), but response has been
>typically pathetic so...
>
>I am no expert on the subject, so I may appear somewhat ignorant here (excuse
>me!), but I'm intrigued by a glass-mounted antenna I've seen on sale here
>in the UK - an antenna which claims to be the only one of its kind in the
>world - designed to operate on 11m (CB) and, it is claimed, 10m (hence the
>posting here).
>
>It works on the same principle as some cellular 'phone antennae - an externally
>mounted section stuck to the glass, coupled to a (for want of a
>better description) black box mounted on the inside which is attatched
>to the co-ax downlead.
>
>Enrico V Vanni

I would go with a magnet or trunk lip if you don't want to make any holes.
The efficiency of a vertical antenna is highly dependant upon ground losses.
You want to make the best connection to the car body that you can.  At 10m,
I wouldn't expect a thru-glass antenna to perform very well.  Also, do you
want 100 watts of RF coming through the window at you?  I would definitely
try a mag-mount first.
 * * * * * * *  ======================= Meir Green
* * * * * * * * ======================= [e-mail]
 * * * * * * *  ======================= N2JPG

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Date: 15 Apr 91 23:59:57 GMT
From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla![e-mail]
Subject: 2m thru-glass ant question
To: [e-mail]

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, [e-mail] (owen adair) writes:


>As another sample (I am also, by the way, friend of these two) I received
>a 440 through the glass antenna after a fellow ham said "It isn't worth
>crap".  I installed it, tuned it , and then used it for two years with great
>results.  I then took it off gave it back to him and said " Worked great for
>me!" :-)

This makes sense.  How much the feedline radiates depends on how long it
is.  Some installations may work pretty well with an ungrounded antenna
while other installations may have most of the power being radiated inside
the car.

AL N1AL

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Date: 15 Apr 91 20:56:19 GMT
From: bloom-beacon!mintaka!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 50 to 75 ohm transformer???
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>|>
>|>I have at my disposal 3/4 inch hardline (about 2000 feet of it) and would
>|>love to put it to good use.  The problem is, it's 75 ohm stuff.
>|>
>|>So, my question is:  Are matching transformers made which match 50 to
>|>75 ohms and can handle substantial power (100 watts) at UHF frequencies?
>|>
>|>If someone would point me in the right direction to solve this
>|>problem I'd be thankful.
>|>
>|>
>|>Joseph R. Skoler
>|>
>If it's a single-band application or you can bandswitch, look into a half-wave
>matching section.  To go from Z1 to Z2, you use a halfwave of line with an
>impedance of sqrt(Z1*Z2), in this case 61 ohms.  That's not standard stuff,
>of course, but you could make it out of copper pipe with a suitable size
>inner conductor (wire or thin tubing).  Check the coax impedance formula
>in the ARRL handbook or any of the many other places.
>
>    paul, ni1d

Ah!  But wouldn't the loss at the band edges offset the advantage of the low
loss line?  (Yes; it might not be a problem for a fixed-frequency repeater)
 * * * * * * *  ======================= Meir Green
* * * * * * * * ======================= [e-mail]
 * * * * * * *  ======================= N2JPG

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Date: 16 Apr 91 03:40:07 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!ieee.org!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: FOR SALE: AIRLINE TICKETS
To: [e-mail]

===========================================================================
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===========================================================================
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Date: 16 Apr 91 03:34:09 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V91 #298
To: [e-mail]

Somebody said to contact W5YI to get programs for the IBM-PC that would generate
smaple ham tests.  Could somebody give me the address (e-mail preferred if they
have one and if not the postal address) so I can get in touch with them?

Brian Hartsfield
[e-mail]

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Date: 15 Apr 91 16:33:21 GMT
From: infopiz!lupine!hansen![e-mail]
Subject: The first No-Code Ham is........(DRUMROLL).....
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Robert McGwier) writes:
|> > In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce B. Sawyer)
writes...
|> >
|> >Give me a break.  Congratulations for NOT knowing something?  If I'd
come in
|> >by this back door route I sure wouldn't be out advertising it in
public.  Let
|> >the guy take his rightful place next to the mail-order Ph.D's.
|> >                                                         AA6KX
|> >
|>
|>
|>
|> Rarely have I been so angered by a note in rec.anything.  Your attitude is
|> appalling.  It is here, it is not going away, and the best thing to do is
|> to welcome the newcomers and if you wish for some of them to learn code,
|> TEACH THEM?  How many novice exams have you conducted lately?
|>
I agree...

I personally have brought 2 new hams into the hobby in the last 2 months
with the new technician license.  I am working on many more (2 for
sure!)  Let me tell you about these people.   One is an RF engineer and
the other is a technical manager for a network company.  Even if these
people NEVER upgrade they will benefit the hobby since they have skills
that we can use to improve the technology that we use.

Just because AA6KX got his Extra does not mean that 20 WPM CW is for
everyone.  At this time it is not for me...  I +ONLY+ hold an Advanced
License and with AA6KX's attitude I should be ashamed of this...  I'm
sorry, I'm not.   Just as a new Tech should not be ashamed for not
knowing CW.  CW is just not important to them.

If AA6KX wants to get more CW operators then he should encourage this
with CW classes, join a testing team, or some other PRO-CW effort.
Statements like his are NOT helpful...

Face it, we need this hobby to grow if we do not want to loose spectrum
to the cell-phones.  We need to utilize the bands that are not in use or
we will loose them.  I for example have recently put up a 1.2GHz
repeater in the Bay Area (it is amazing how well it works!)

What have you done to advance our understanding of radio?
Have you invited a new or future ham over to work some DX?
Have you shown them that there is more to Ham Radio than DX'ing?
Have you purchased some study guides to get them started?
Have you helped a new Ham with Radio problems?

So here is the bottom line, if you want more 20 WPM Extras train them
and don't complain.  It is your own fault if there are more Technicians
than Extras...


Phil

DE KJ6NN


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Date: 16 Apr 91 00:31:09 GMT
From: orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!jarthur!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!convex!texsun!newstop!west!L1-A.West.Sun.COM![e-mail]
Subject: The IC-W2A: A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Toping!
To: [e-mail]

A Floor Wax AND a Dessert Topping! -

- My first impressions on the IC-W2A dual-band handheld.


This month I've decided to join AA.  Not alcoholics but amateurs
anonymous.  I just can't help myself anymore, as on Friday afternoon I
went out and did it again, bought another new rig.

"Why do you need another radio?" the wife asks.  To which I replied,
"But it's really neat, it's smaller, and I can easily sell my old
one (an IC-32AT)".  Reluctantly she agreed, so long as I did not dip
into the household monetary fund - we had a deal.

Then, when I brought it home she said "It looks just like the old one".
Well, in XYL lingo this means that it's a small rectangular thingy with
an antenna, a little display and several incomprehensible buttons on it.
I then showed her the 32AT and it side by side and her response was
"oh", unimpressed with the fact that the new one is scarcely half the
size of the old one.

Introductions aside, I then sat down and proceeded to learn about the
newest appendage to my hobby.  I have to say that almost from the start
I was having second thoughts.  After all, how could something this tiny
be anywhere near as reliable as my brick-sized IC-32AT with the BP-8S
battery?  Why only last week I had dropped the '32 on a hard linoleum
floor from about 3 feet, only to pick it up undamaged and continue on
as if nothing had happened.  I had dropped the 32AT a couple of times
since owning it and each time my respect for its robust and sturdy
design was fortified.  Alas, the 32AT remains one of the all time
hand-held classics.

Well, too late for nostalgia, as I had already committed to the new
direction.  Time to check it out...

(Please bear in mind that I've only had the radio a couple of days
and that some of my observations may be later revised for accuracy :-).

There are quite a few similarities to the 32AT in the user interface,
and I was able to transition into it fairly fast.  The user manual is
no better or worse than any other typical radio these days, and there
were a few obvious typos.  One very nice and innovative touch - a cheat
sheet.  This radio comes with a wallet-sized fold-out quick reference
card that contains the key sequences for most of the common operations
(and there are a lot of them).

This radio, like many of the new handhelds, had no internal options
available.  There seems to be a list of common hand-held features which
the radio manufacturers compete with.  This radio implements what I
would call the standard list of bells and whistles.  It comes with PL
encode/decode digital code squelch / paging (DTMF), a 4 number, 15
digit autodialer, and a clock and timer.  I sometimes wonder what else
could possibly be added to the functionality of a hand-held and my mind
draws a blank.  Interestingly, the manual mentions that the foreign
market versions do not come with the PL decode board installed and
there is an illustration in the back which shows how to install it if
you're so inclined.

Using the little pocket cheat-sheet instruction card as a guide,
I'll step through some of the basic features and add my own comments
along the way.  Also, the standard model costs $569 list.

Unless otherwise noted, all functions mentioned below may be selected
independently for each band.

Frequency Setting - Pretty straight forward and much like the 32AT.
You can either key in the frequency, or you can use the dial knob to
dial it in.  Dial and scan steps are adjustable in 5, 10, 12.5, 15, 20,
25, 30(!) and 50 kHz steps.

Memory Channel Selection - Largely the same as the 32AT except that
there is a mask function which hides unused memory slots.  There are 30
memory channels for each band.  Each memory channel can independently
store frequency, offset, PL, Duplex, and squelch mode.  ICOM does not
use Kenwood's slimy convention of reserving 2 memory channels for band
scanning limits - instead there are separate memory positions for them.

Mode Setting - Gives you selection of PL tone, Scan Resume condition,
Receiver duty ratio (for power saving), Offset frequency and Scan Skip
function, after performing the unpublished "mod" by pressing the
secret keystrokes, you may also use Mode to set the number of digits
to key in when direct setting the VFO.

DTMF Memory - You can store up to 4 15 digit phone numbers in 4
separate DTMF memories.  You can store any of the 16 DTMF codes.
You can press the DTMF button on front to playback the tones,
whether the transmitter is keyed or not allowing you to use the
radio as a pocket dialer on land-line phones.

Pager Operation - Uses the now standard ###*### paging sequence to
give you a personal number, a group-id, and shows you the number of
the person calling.

Clock Operation - A 24 hour clock is included, which when used replaces
the frequency display on either of both of the two bands.  The clock
implements an Auto-ON and Auto-OFF function which are very nice.
Auto-ON is your basic digital alarm clock and could easily be used to
wake you up in the morning.  It's also very nice for reminding you that
you that it's time for your next sked.  To use it, you just program in
the Auto-ON time and then turn the rig off.  When the preset time
arrives, the rig turns itself on and beeps loudly 5 times.  The radio
then comes up in the last used mode and frequencies that it was tuned
to.  Auto-OFF does the same thing in reverse, turning off the radio at
a preset time (reminding you to QRT :-).

Priority Watch - Different, to say the least.  Priority watch does the
following things depending on how its programmed:  watches a given memory
channel while you're doing other things, watches all memory channels while
you're doing other things, watches the call channel while you're doing
other things, watches the non-skip memory channels - you guessed it,
while you're doing other things.

Scanning - There are 4 primary scan modes: Full Scan - scans the entire
band, programmed scan - scans between limits, memory scan - scans all
memory channels and memory skip scan - scans all memory channels except
those which are set to be skipped.  Of note is the skip frequency mode
which is used to store frequencies to be skipped during VFO scanning.
This is nice but it does chew up the memory channels between 10 and 30.
You may choose between time operated and carrier operated scan resume
modes, independently for each band.

Low Power Setting - you may select your own choice for the low output
power level in 4 steps, using the keyboard and dial knob.

Lock Function - You may lock the entire keyboard, or you can lock
just the PTT switch, or you can lock both.

Display Light - Much better illumination and readability than the 32AT,
and can be set to always-on if desired.

Cross Band Repeat Function - There is no mention of this capability
anywhere in the documentation.  It is not known if it exists but it
seems unlikely that it doesn't.


PROS and CONS

PROS:

This is the first truly dual band radio that I've ever seen.  Both
bands are completely independent to the point where you may do anything
on one band while the other band is doing anything else.  You can, for
example, simultaneously scan both bands, independently.  You can talk
on one while the other is scanning.  You can program one while the
other is scanning.  You can scan VFO on one band and Memory on the
other.  If it had two microphones it would be two radios.

The display is very readable, across a wide range of viewing angles.
The display lighting is also very good and is much more readable at
night than in the previous models.

The radio comes with the same antenna as the 32AT, which is a good deal
longer than the super-stubby which came on the 24AT.

It has excellent sensitivity (all things considered) in the aircraft
band, and perhaps too much in the 800-900 MHz bands (more about that
below).

The keyboard beep tone is inserted into the audio chain ahead of the
volume controls, unlike many other radios, which makes it very nice for
quiet listening.

The power switch is now a button - no longer on the volume knob.  This
allows you to keep your volume at a preset level.

The design of the PL decoder allows you to hunt for a given PL tone
when receiving it.  All you do is turn on the tone squelch and put the
radio into the tone set mode.  Then, rotate the dial until audio is
heard.

A 7.2V/1000mAh battery (BP-84) comes standard with the USA version of
the rig.  This seems to be a very good battery for its size and is
claimed to be capable of powering the radio for up to 9hrs+ of
intermittent use.  My rig is putting out about 2.7 Watts VHF on the
Bird wattmeter with this battery.  Recharging using the supplied wall
adaptor is supposed to take 15 hours.


CONS:

The keyboard is a bit small, and people with really fat fingers might
have some problems with it.  The tactile feedback is nice and although
I have large hands, I have no problems with it.  There's not much that
could have been done about the keyboard's size short of making the
whole front of the radio into a keypad.  As long as there's a demand
for small rigs, we'll just have to get used to the tiny keyboards.
There's a lot of lettering on the rubber keys and the the keyboard.
Sadly, it's evident that the numbers on the keys themselves are
destined to rub off in a very short period of time.  Some of the
lettering is very small and a dim grey color which makes it hard to
read.

The speaker is perhaps the size of a quarter and the audio it emits is
not very punchy.  It rattles at high volume and seems to bottom out
fairly easily, especially when listening to someone with a raspy
voice.  At low volume levels the sound is quite good with an amazing
amount of fidelity for its size.  Probably not a good radio in a high
ambient noise environment, like driving in a car with the windows
rolled down.  The microphone seems to be very good and on the air
reports indicate that it is not tinny and has a nice low frequency
response.

The display lens appears to be a polycarbonate and is definitely an
optical magnifying device.  It's convex surface sticks out such that
it's terribly easy to scratch it.  I got a small scratch in mine on the
first day, while wearing it with the belt clip.  As of this writing,
there are no cases or other accessories available yet.  I'll have to be
*very* careful in the meantime.

The total display area is something on the order of being less than a
square inch in size.  In this area are dozens of LCD segments, flags
and indicators.  The smaller ones are really hard for some folks to
read and I do find it necessary to grab my reading glasses on
occasion.

The accessory jacks on the top of the rig are non-ICOM standard.  No
previous ICOM handheld accessory will mate with them (the batteries are
however, compatible).  This includes the power jack which is very
strange, being a triaxial type with a needle-like pin in the center of
the plug which goes into it.  I'd like to hear ICOM's explanation on
this one....

You can't charge the battery unless it's attached to the rig.  This was
also true with the 24AT and it still stinks.  They now offer an adaptor
(which isn't available yet) that clips onto the top of the battery so
that it can be charged away from the radio.  Your only other option is
to spend $100+ on the drop-in charger.

The radio won't let you transmit in the 420 and/or 430 sections of the
band.  There are legitimate simplex frequencies in the 430 portion of
the band and I resent not being able to access them.  I expect this to
become a moot point once the all-band transmit mod is made available.

Recently, someone on the net published a list of receive sensitivity
specifications for the rig.  I suppose that with a calibrated signal
generator and other suitable test equipment one could verify the
figures given.  My personal observation of it's out-of-band reception
can be summed up in two words - IMAGE CITY.  Particularly disturbing
were the cellular telephone images down in the middle of the 420MHz
portion of the band.  I was not a happy camper about those.


Other Observations

The radio was evidently designed to receive 4 distinct bands.  2 meter,
(140-170), 70cm (430-512), 118-136 MHz AM, and 800-900 Mhz.  This radio
has made it apparent that a large demand for 800 MHz scanning exists
and that the manufacturers are almost openly supporting it.  I used to
think that 800MHz coverage was more or less a an accident, an innocent
by-product of a typical broadband receiver design - no more.  Their
thinly concealed secret key codes are a joke and there can be little
doubt of the intentions of the manufacturer when a 30kHz scan step is
made openly available.  In fact, the radio automagically readjusts its
step rate to 30kHz when the VFO is moved into the 800MHz band - "Duuuuh
- hit me with a brick, what's this for...."

Images are literally everywhere, and as a general-purpose scanner it's
completely unsatisfactory.  Granted however, it's not advertised as
such and the manual makes no such claims.  On the other hand, I
recently purchased a Radio Shack 2006 which really made me appreciate
what a good scanner was capable of.  For example, on the IC-W2A there
were plenty of cell- phone images in the 300MHz region, as well as in
the 420, and in the 90-100 MHz region, numerous pocket paging
transmitters were heard - I could make out perhaps two or three FM
broadcast stations in the band - in an area where there are dozens.

The only place where images were at a minimum was the ham bands, where
it has to meet the published specs.  I do notice, however, that the
IC-W2A is more susceptible to the RFI hash from my PC than the IC-32AT
was - even in the ham bands.

The on-air reports of the radio have all been good and so there seems
to be no problem meeting its advertised purpose as a full featured
dual-band hand-held.  I say advertised as though I've seen some which I
haven't.  In fact, I first heard about the radio here on the net and
saw my first one at the local ham store a few days later.  I bought my
radio last Friday and by late Saturday they were all sold out - a
testament to ICOM user loyalty and to a snazzy new rig that will
capture almost anyone's attention.


Wish List

As I stated before, it's hard to imagine anything which could have been
added since it seems to have it all already.  If pressed, I guess I
would wonder if it could have had a clone mode where two such
transceivers could exchange setup data, which can get quite lengthy.
Automatic PL identification would be handy, as would an auto DTMF
decoder display to show randomly heard DTMF tones.  I also suppose that
future hand-helds will surely have digital voice recording (DVR)
features.

The auto power off function should have also included a setting which
would automatically shut off the radio in case an extended period of
inactivity, as when one inadvertently leaves it turned on.  As it is,
you have to program a specific time when the radio will shut itself
down, which is hardly useful for the forgetful operator.

The memory/VFO scanning speed could have been made adjustable, and
more timing functions could have been added to the clock.  Add to
that an automatic scan-and-store method and you'd then have a real
confusing mess of a radio.  There are only about 2 or 3 keys on the
radio now which don't have 2nd functions - we're approaching feature
overload here....


Conclusion

Well, as you can see, it slices, it dices, it replaces dozens of
kitchen utensils.  It also does a pretty good job of being a micro sized
dual-band hand-held, and a fine job at integrating a large number of
interesting and useful functions into such a small package.  I've
only owned it for 3 days now and I'll be anxious to hear what other
users have to say.

Until then,

73, Fred  AA7BQ


--
| Fred Lloyd  AA7BQ                        [e-mail] |
| Sun Microsystems, Inc.                             ...sun!flloyd |
| Phoenix, AZ       (reality -- what a concept!)    [phone] |

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Date: 16 Apr 91 02:44:23 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!hpb.cis.pitt.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: The first No-Code Ham is........(DRUMROLL).....


   I said it before, but nobody seems to have listened, so I'll say it
again louder:

   COULD THIS ENDLESS THREAD PLEASE BE TAKEN TO REC.RADIO.AMATEUR.POLICY.

73,
Harry WA3TBL

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Date: 15 Apr 91 23:50:46 GMT
From: gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>h
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA)
Subject : Re: Dayton frequencies

As quoted from <[e-mail]> by [e-mail] (Phil Howard KA9WGN):
+---------------
| >Well, I have 223.52 programmed into my 220 HT because we have a small local
| >group on that frequency....
|
| That is awfully close to the simplex frequency, which is likely to be jammed
| (as is the entire 2 meter band).
|
| I would suggest some oddball (yet rememberable) frequencies for Dayton.
|
| For instance:   221.720  and  441.720   (I just picked those at random)
+---------------

I know it's too close.  But it might be usable for rendezvous before *we* get
too close :-)

221.720 --- bad choice, probably, unless you want to say goodbye to it.  And
it might be used for packet network links.

+---------------
| >Anyone have a frequency on 1.2?  :-)
|
| There are a LOT of frequencies in that band, but unfortunately I have
| NONE of them.  I doubt I will anytime soon, either, as I can hardly
| ever find anyone on 440 in my area.
+---------------

Hmm.  We have lots of 220, lots of 440, a growing 1.2 community, and they just
put up a 900MHz repeater in the area.

++Brandon
--
Me: Brandon S. Allbery              Ham: KB8JRR/AA on 2m, 220, 440, 1200
Internet: [e-mail]        (QRT on HF until local problems fixed)
America OnLine: KB8JRR // Delphi: ALLBERY   AMPR: kb8jrr.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88]
uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery          KB8JRR @ WA8BXN.OH

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Date: 16 Apr 91 06:30:58 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
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References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Dayton frequencies

[e-mail] (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR/AA) writes:

>221.720 --- bad choice, probably, unless you want to say goodbye to it.  And
>it might be used for packet network links.

OK, make a better choice.  For AT THE HAMFEST it surely needs to be:
    NOT one of the standard simplex frequencies
    NOT one of the standard repeater pairs.
That cuts out 222.34 to 225 MHz.

>Hmm.  We have lots of 220, lots of 440, a growing 1.2 community, and they just
>put up a 900MHz repeater in the area.

Good!  I'm glad to see it grow.  But not everyone can justify buying equipment
they would only use one a year (assuming they got to Dayton each year).

How about someone running a crossband repeater between 70cm and 23cm?
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